1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,359 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast. The do you remember the twenty 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: first nine of September audition as the Bengals look to 4 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: quickly put that date and Sunday's game behind them and 5 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: move on after a lopsided loss to the Vikings. Coming 6 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: up radio replays, locker room comments, and postgame analysis from 7 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: Dave Lapham. Then, in this week's fun Facts Conversation, you'll 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: get to know defensive lineman, cancer survivor and master chef 9 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: Mike Panell. 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It's 18 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: the greatest thing since Kyle Brandt's full length interview with 19 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. Last week, before the Jacksonville game, the NFL 20 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: Network aired a three minute and thirty second interview with 21 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: the Bengals quarterback that was done by Kyle Brandt, But 22 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: after that version aired on TV, Kyle shared what he 23 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: called the director's cut on social media. It's sixteen minutes 24 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: long and exceptional. Kyle clearly gave a lot of thought 25 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: to his questions, made Joe comfortable and got him to 26 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: open up. I think I've seen just about every long 27 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: interview that Joe has done since twenty twenty, and I 28 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: don't think anybody has done it better. If you haven't 29 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: seen it yet, just search for Joe Burrow Director's Cut. 30 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: This is a podcast for Bengals fans, so I'm guessing 31 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: that you don't want to hear too many radio replays 32 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: from Sunday's game in Minneapolis, so let's boil it down 33 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: to just a few key plays. 34 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: Now. 35 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: On second and ten, Browning, moving around in the pocket, 36 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,559 Speaker 1: begins scrambling, throws a terrible throw, and it is intercepted 37 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: by Isaiah Rodgers. He's sprinting up the sideline into Bengals 38 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: territory and on his way to the end zone. Touchdown 39 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: Minnesota eighty six yards on the runback by Isaiah Rogers. 40 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: In fairness to Jake Browning, I didn't see it live, 41 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: but that pass was tipped ever so slightly by safety 42 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: Harrison Smith, so the throw itself wasn't terrible, just the 43 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: end result. The Bengals fell behind seventeen to nothing before 44 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: Evan McPherson booted a forty five yard field goal about 45 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: five minutes left in the half. The defense promptly forced 46 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: a three and out that included a sack by Chris Jenkins. 47 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: He had one and a half in the game, and 48 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: the Bengals offense drove to the Minnesota thirty six with 49 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: a chance to score again before getting the ball back 50 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: to begin the third quarter. Two minutes to go in 51 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: the half, Browning waiting for a shotgun snap with Drew 52 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: Sample in the backfield to block Browning with a quick 53 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: pass out to the right, It is caught by Fant 54 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: He gets hit around the shoulders and loses the ball. 55 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: The Vikings are running it back and it looks like 56 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: they'll take it to the house. Isaiah Rodgers scored on 57 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: a pick six, and now he scores on a puffle 58 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: recovery That sixty six yard run back made it twenty 59 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: four to three and killed any momentum the Bengals were building. 60 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: Here's Jake Browning. 61 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 3: Right for the half is really when it's I think 62 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: it's snowballed. And so, yeah, you're down. 63 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: I think it was seventeen to three. 64 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 3: We're driving, We're gonna get the ball after halftime, you know, 65 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 3: I feel like we kind of got into a rhythm 66 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,839 Speaker 3: a little bit across the fifty and you know, ended 67 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 3: up having another and so, you know, I think just 68 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 3: in general, I mean, anytime you turn the ball over 69 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: that much, you're gonna you're gonna get blown out. And 70 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 3: it's and that's exactly what happened. 71 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: Two more lost fumbles in the second quarter and an 72 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: interception in the third made the turnover difference five nothing. 73 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: That's obviously the most significant stat in the Vikings forty 74 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: eight to ten win. It ended Cincinnati's seven game winning 75 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: streak going back to last year, and the Bengals will 76 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: need to put it behind them quickly before playing a 77 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: Monday night road game in Denver next week. Here's more 78 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:34,799 Speaker 1: from Jake Browning. 79 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 3: We got work today and you got to sit in it, 80 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 3: and you gotta go through those emotions of like just 81 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 3: being miserable, and then you got to watch the tape 82 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 3: and and find your key things that you need to 83 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 3: focus on for me to do my part and making 84 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 3: sure that we move the ball better on offense and 85 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 3: don't turn the ball over and get some points up 86 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 3: on the board and so so uh yeah, I mean 87 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 3: it's kind of the same process whether you whether you 88 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 3: win or lose, but obviously it's just much more painful 89 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 3: when you lose, especially the way we did. You gotta 90 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: be able to bounce back. I mean, very fortunate it 91 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 3: only counts as one loss, and uh, you know, I 92 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 3: think for me, it's just a big emphasis on you know, 93 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 3: there's a lot of things that happen on offense that 94 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 3: that didn't go well, and for me, it's really focusing 95 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: on what my role was in that and what I 96 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 3: need to do to get better and collectively as a group, 97 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 3: we gotta we gotta respond, and so uh yeah, I 98 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 3: think that's that's the hardest part, is just going out 99 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 3: and not playing well and dealing with all the emotions 100 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 3: after that, and uh and bouncing back. Nobody's happy about 101 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 3: what just happened, and obviously and so you know, finding 102 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 3: the balance of like knowing sitting in that feeling, knowing 103 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: how that feels, going through watching the film and addressing 104 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 3: the issues, but not letting this emotion of how you 105 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 3: feel after a game like that, you know, turn into people, 106 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 3: you know whatever, turn it into a bad locker room. 107 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: I don't. 108 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 3: I don't think that's the case at all. You know, 109 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 3: we got work today, but we had a lot of turnovers, 110 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,239 Speaker 3: and that's kind of what happens. And so trying to 111 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 3: separate what you put on film from the emotion of 112 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 3: how you're feeling after having a very poor game. 113 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: Routing completed seventy percent of his passes and did throw 114 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: a touchdown pass in the fourth quarter. Routing in the 115 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: shotgun now back at the nine yard line. Sample in 116 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: the backfield to his left. Routing drops back, looking bouncing 117 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: in the pocket, floats a pass caught by Sample, great 118 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: inside cut runs toward the goal line, touchdown, Bengals. We're 119 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: in the locker room with Drew. Sample caught a touchdown 120 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: pass for the Bengals today. One of the bright spots. 121 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: And what was an unfortunate game. How difficult was it 122 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 1: when they scored those defensive touchdowns in the first half 123 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: to kind of get the ball rolling for the Vikings. 124 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously, turnovers killed us. You know, that's across the league. 125 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 4: That's the number one thing, you know, we can't do, 126 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 4: and so that's on us to be to be better, 127 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 4: and that was really the thing that kind of shifted 128 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 4: the game in their favor. 129 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: You know, we had some a few. 130 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 4: Explosives, a couple of drives that were starting to get going, 131 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 4: and I think we had a couple and then we 132 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 4: had the turnovers on all those, so that kind of 133 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 4: killed the momentum. And you know, Di did a good 134 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 4: job of capitalizing those on the you know, scoring and 135 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 4: then their offense did a good job, you know, not 136 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 4: giving up takeaways. So yeah, I mean that was obviously 137 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 4: a big part of the game, and you know, we 138 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 4: just weren't good enough. 139 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: Really in any face, felt like that second defensive touchdown 140 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: was really the one that kind of made it difficult 141 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: because you just scored, you had the ball near midfield 142 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: two minute warning. It felt like maybe if you score 143 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: and you get the ball to begin the third quarter, 144 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: you're still in the game, and that one was really 145 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: difficult overcome. 146 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think I think they all might 147 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 4: have been on the other side of the fifty and 148 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 4: like plus territory. So you know that was just not 149 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 4: only giving them points, but taking away, like you said, 150 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 4: points that we could have you know, slowly crawled away 151 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 4: back in the game. And you know, obviously at the half, 152 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 4: we knew we had to come out and just try 153 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 4: to flush that and you know, go in the second 154 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 4: half and then you know, we were really just not 155 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 4: able to get anything going. 156 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: So it was it was tough. Hats off to them, 157 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: but we definitely need to be better. 158 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: I know, you guys had a lot of confidence in 159 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: Jake Browning coming into the game. He earned that with 160 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: what he did two years ago. How do you feel 161 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: about the likelihood that he pushes this behind him and 162 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: moves on and plays well going forward. 163 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think we all have to do that. 164 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 2: You know. 165 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 4: Obviously, that's that hurts, that's I mean, you never want 166 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 4: to lose like that. It's and it's embarrassing. You never 167 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 4: want to put that on tape, But it happened, and 168 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 4: you know, I got on it. We got to own it, 169 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 4: you know, as a group, as a team, and you know, 170 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 4: we have an extra day this week. Going into Monday 171 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 4: night in the prime time. So you know, we got 172 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 4: to learn from it and and move on really and 173 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 4: try to figure out how we can do better not 174 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 4: do that. And you know, I think we still have 175 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 4: a really talented, full of team. We got great players 176 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 4: on all sides of the ball. So we just gotta 177 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 4: we just gotta learn from it, flush it when it's 178 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 4: time to flush it and get back and you know, 179 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 4: get really playing our style football. 180 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: And you know, we gotta find that it's a noisy 181 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: place and aggressive defense. Does that feed on itself once 182 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 1: they start to build a lead. 183 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I think so. 184 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 4: I mean I thought we did a pretty good job, 185 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 4: you know, communicating different things in the noise, but obviously, 186 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 4: you know, feeding on the turnovers, that's that's big for them. 187 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: And you know their offense fed on that too. 188 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 4: Obviously took a lot of pressure off them us giving 189 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 4: up those points. So we made it hard on our 190 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 4: defense for sure. But like I said, we just gotta 191 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 4: we just gonna be better. I think no one's gonna 192 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 4: shy away from that. We're a team and we're gonna 193 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 4: bounce back from this. And that's all you can do. 194 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: The biggest thing the Bengals have to get fixed. Is 195 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: the running game. Cincinnati averaged about two and a half 196 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: yards per carry and Chase Brown wound up with three 197 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: yards on ten attempts. Chase talked about it with the 198 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: reporters after the game. 199 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 5: The main thing to take away from today is, you know, 200 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 5: it's not gonna get any worse than this, and we 201 00:09:58,280 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 5: got to learn from it and move on. 202 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 6: What is that say to you guys after the game? 203 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: After the game? 204 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty much just that. I mean, you know, we 205 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 5: gotta put this behind us. Five turnovers is you know 206 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 5: that's gonna be the result every single time. 207 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 2: You know, ball security was a. 208 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 5: Big issue today, so I mean, you know, a lot 209 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 5: of self inflicted wounds, you take those away. I mean, 210 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 5: we probably still didn't play good enough to win the game, 211 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 5: but you know it's it's not that big of a point. 212 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: Spread for you personally, Chase. 213 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: How frustrating has this first three games been for your production? 214 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: Frustrating? 215 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 5: You know for me, wins wins mean a lot, So 216 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 5: I mean put production aside. Obviously, you know the big 217 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 5: games will come and you know the production will come. 218 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 5: But I think the main thing is is winning games 219 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 5: and when you lose it it it it's it. 220 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: It it's different. 221 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 5: So I mean, obviously we gotta look at ourselves in 222 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 5: the mirror and figure out where we gotta get. 223 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: Better and move on. 224 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 6: Because of the point differential, there will be a lot 225 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 6: of people that will look at this game and the 226 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 6: fact that it was the first game without Joe question 227 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 6: if you guys are going to be able to be 228 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 6: the offense that you want to be, what would you. 229 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 4: Say to that? 230 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's fine. I mean, you know, let people, you know, 231 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 5: have their own opinion about us, and you know what 232 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 5: we're capable of. But as long as we stay tight 233 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 5: and you know, focus on getting better and you know, 234 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 5: get out of our feels and put this behind us, 235 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 5: we'll be just fine. I think we gotta take the 236 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 5: big main thing that you know, we gotta take away 237 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 5: as a team is, you know, we got to play 238 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 5: with the chip on our shoulder, like whatever people say. 239 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 5: You know, as long as we're good in this locker room, 240 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 5: we'll be We'll be just fine. 241 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 7: Where is the better run game to start with, Jason? 242 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: Where does that start? Yeah? 243 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 5: And I think in the main thing that reflects a 244 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 5: good run game is physicality, just movement, breaking tackles, getting 245 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 5: up to the second level, making big plays. So I 246 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 5: think you know that'll come, and it'll come. 247 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: Now, let's hear from head coach Zach Taylor, who spent 248 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: a couple of minutes with Dave Lapham after the game. 249 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 8: Forty eight to ten is a tough pill to swallow. 250 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 8: What's your first thought? Turnovers? 251 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 9: You know, you lose the turno bet on the first 252 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 9: half four to nothing, two of them for touchdowns on 253 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 9: the road. In this environment, that's gonna be tough to 254 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 9: be able to overcome that. Added a fifth one in 255 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 9: the second half, put another ball on the ground, didn't 256 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 9: get any on defense, and so it's a very simple 257 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 9: recipe for success or a lack of When you go 258 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 9: on the road and you turn the ball over five 259 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 9: times and you get none of them, typically the score 260 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 9: might it's gonna be pretty ugly. 261 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 8: And that's what it was today and road. There are 262 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 8: places to visit on the road, and then there are 263 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 8: other places to visit the road. In terms of crowd noise, 264 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 8: this is one of the loudest. I mean that they 265 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 8: can really get after it, they can get going. The 266 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 8: momentum can affect how they react to what's going on 267 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 8: in the football game. How difficult was that crowd noise 268 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 8: to deal with. 269 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 9: I mean, we gave him point to sure about and 270 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 9: so the crowd didn't cause turnovers. The crowd didn't do 271 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 9: any of that. We just didn't perform well enough to 272 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 9: be able to win the game. And that's ultimately at 273 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 9: the end of the game, it was all phases. We 274 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 9: didn't do enough to make a play at the right time. 275 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 9: On defense, I thought in the first half the defense 276 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 9: gave us some positive things. We handed them fourteen points. 277 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 9: That's not on the defense. So again, just collectively, we 278 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 9: got to find a way when when a unit's down, 279 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 9: for the other unit to somehow pick them up and 280 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 9: create a big play. And today we just as a 281 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 9: team failed in all phases. 282 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 8: I think you make a great point the defense, really, 283 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 8: I mean, you know, it's hard to say they played 284 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 8: well when forty eight points were put up on the board, 285 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 8: but they were in a tough situation field position. But 286 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 8: all in all, I mean I thought that maybe the 287 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 8: defense might have been the best of the three units today. 288 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 9: There's no question. I mean, we put them in a 289 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 9: terrible spot offensively in the first half, and I think 290 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 9: our you know, our red zone defense at times this 291 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,359 Speaker 9: season has been has been impressive. We've got some takeaways 292 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 9: and some turnovers and downs. Today the red zone defense 293 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 9: wasn't good enough and so that led to some touchdowns 294 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 9: when we did give them short fields. So we got 295 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 9: to continue to improve there. But again it's it's this 296 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 9: loss is collectively as a team, we're all going to 297 00:13:58,360 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 9: own this. 298 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: So three weeks into the season, the Bengals are two 299 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: and one and tied for first in the AFC North. 300 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: The Steelers are two and one after a twenty one 301 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: to fourteen win at New England. The Ravens are one 302 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: in one heading into a Monday night home game against Detroit, 303 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: and the Browns got their first win, stunning the Packers 304 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: thirteen to ten as Cleveland rookie Andre Schmidt hit a 305 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: fifty five yard field goal to win the game as 306 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: time expired. The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought to you 307 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: by pay Corps, proud to be the Bengals official HR 308 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: software provider, by Alta Fiber future Proof Fiber Internet designed 309 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: elevate your home, business and community to a new level, 310 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: and by kettering health the best care for the best 311 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:47,359 Speaker 1: Fans Kettering Health is the official healthcare provider of the Bengals. 312 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: Now time for the radio guys recap. 313 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 2: Lap. 314 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: You don't make it to the NFL if you don't 315 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: have a tremendous amount of pride, and the Bengals pride 316 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: took a hit, a big time hit today. How do 317 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: they deal with it? 318 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 2: Own up to it? 319 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 8: You know, the whole story of the game, you know, beginning, middle, 320 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 8: and end is five turnovers and you know some be 321 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 8: in return for touchdowns. You just can't you can't survive 322 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 8: in the National Football League giving people that kind of 323 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 8: an advantage over you. The game was literally over at halftime, 324 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 8: in the first thirty minutes of the football game. It 325 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 8: was it was way out of control. The Bengals had 326 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 8: a monumental comeback ahead of them, they didn't have it 327 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 8: in them to do it today. 328 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 2: So again we. 329 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 8: Boiled down to five turnovers. There were you know, mental 330 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 8: errors on the turnovers. I'm sure there were physical errors 331 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 8: in the turnovers, I know. So it's going to be 332 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 8: interesting to see how they bounce back, how quickly they 333 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 8: bounced back, both as you know, players and coaches. 334 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: You know, nationally, people are going to say, well, see 335 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is out. This team's in trouble. How do 336 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: the Bengals fight that and remain as confident in Jake 337 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: brown as they appeared to be prior to the game. 338 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I think that the thing you have 339 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 8: to do is get over that as quickly as you 340 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 8: possibly can. I mean, make it a make it a 341 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 8: memory of the past. You can't let let it, you know, 342 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 8: you can't let it just weigh on you. You can't harbor, 343 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 8: you know, the wishing that Joe Burrow was you was 344 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 8: your starting quarterback, because he's not anymore. And that's just 345 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 8: the nature of the beast. That's the reality of the situation. 346 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 8: A lot of times, reality sucks, and reality sucks a 347 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 8: big time right now for this football team. But Jake 348 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 8: Browning is going to have to do everything he possibly can, 349 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 8: both mentally and physically to get this team, you know, 350 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 8: out of the doldrums. 351 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: The biggest mystery of the year through three games is 352 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: why the Bengals have not been able to get Chase 353 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: brown going. He was so good in the last eight 354 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: games that he played last year. The numbers today are staggering. 355 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: Ten carries a total of three yards. His long run 356 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: of the day was four. How do they get Chase 357 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: brown going in the running game? 358 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 8: Those numbers are almost impossible. I mean it literally is 359 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 8: almost impossible to think that on ten carries, Chase Browns 360 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 8: will only generate a third of a first down three yards, 361 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 8: I mean less than a third of a first down. 362 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 8: If I'm an offensive lineman, I'm embarrassed by that. I 363 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 8: won't I couldn't stand to look at it. If a 364 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 8: coach put it up on a board, I'd throw up. 365 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 8: And you just you just can't have that. I mean, 366 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 8: if if your running game is that bad, if you 367 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 8: if you you know you can't get anything done on 368 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 8: the ground and make a defense at least think that 369 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 8: you have a chance or shot to run the football. 370 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 8: You get no chance in a football game. I don't 371 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 8: care if it's junior high school, high school, college, or 372 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 8: the National Football League, you just can't have that. As 373 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 8: a former offensive lineman, that that to me is mind boggling. 374 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 8: I just can't wrap my mind around that one that 375 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 8: And you know, I'm sure Jake Browning feels the same way. 376 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 8: He can't wrap his mind around it either. I mean, 377 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 8: I bet when guys came trudging back to the huddle 378 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 8: after another, you know, less than sound effort. I'm sure 379 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 8: he was like, come on, what the hell is going 380 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 8: on here, Let's shake ourselves, let's get this going. We're 381 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 8: a much better football team than we're showing today. And 382 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 8: I think that was kind of the theme of the entire day. 383 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: Jake was nineteen for twenty seven. That's a pretty good 384 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: completion percentage, one hundred and forty yards, one touchdown, two 385 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 1: pick six, two interceptions rather including one pick six. How 386 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: do you think that he weathered the storm, so to speak, 387 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: considering that there was quite a bit of pressure applied 388 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: by the Minnesota Vikings defense during the course of the game. 389 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that everybody has to take a look 390 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 8: at that. I think, you know, coaching staff, quarterbacks, running backs, 391 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 8: tight ends, wide receivers, offensive line, everybody has to take 392 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 8: a look at why the pressure was so extraordinary, why 393 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 8: it was so extreme, why the Bengals didn't have time 394 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 8: to operate. You know, I thought it was unfair to 395 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 8: Jake Browning. You know, hanging this loss on Jake grinning 396 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 8: is is a disservice. I think, you know, I've looking 397 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 8: at him in the locker room. I felt my heart 398 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 8: was aching for the guy. I felt badly for the guy. 399 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 8: As a foreign player. I know what's going through his mind, 400 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 8: and uh, you know it's not it's not pretty thoughts 401 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 8: right now. So you know, hopefully, uh, he's able to regroup, 402 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 8: shake himself, pull himself up out of the you know, 403 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 8: out of the doldrums, and and go compete next week. 404 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: He played twelve years of pro football, four years of 405 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: major college football at Syracuse. There were probably games like this, 406 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: if not quite this bad, what was the next week? 407 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 2: Like? 408 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 5: Tough? 409 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 8: You know, it's uh, you're you're you're taking a look 410 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 8: at everything about yourself from the inside out. What are 411 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 8: you made of? How important is the game? And uh, 412 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 8: I mean it's it's it's painful and it's difficult to 413 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 8: lay an egg like that, but you did it. So 414 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 8: now what do you do? Well? Do you quit? No, 415 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 8: you can't quit. You don't do that. Everybody's looking, everybody's watching. 416 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 8: What's the next thing you're gonna do? How you're gonna 417 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 8: rectify the situation? You know, you're gonna listen to your coaches, 418 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 8: You're gonna listen to your teammates, and everybody's gonna have 419 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 8: some input as to how it can be better on 420 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 8: a snap by snap basis, because that's what it's gonna take. 421 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 2: Uh. 422 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 8: Nobody in the NFL is gonna feel sorry for you. 423 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 8: Nobody's gonna play any uh, you know, any easier against 424 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 8: you and make your job less, uh less of a challenge. 425 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 8: They're coming after you. 426 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: They had some lopsided losses with Joe at quarterback. It happens. 427 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: Do you think it affects a team's confidence more when 428 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: the backup quarterback is in. 429 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 8: That's an interesting question, you know. I think as a 430 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 8: form alignment, I would feel worse that. You know, we 431 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 8: just could not figure out a way to hit it 432 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 8: done and to put together drives and and and make plays. Yeah, 433 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 8: I mean we had games like that, you know. I 434 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 8: mean Bob Trumpy, Kennyan and Bob Johnson when I was 435 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 8: younger player games like that, and those guys taught me to, okay, 436 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 8: just let it roll off your back like water off 437 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 8: off the duck's back. You know, it's there's nothing more 438 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 8: you can do about it. You know, if you uh, 439 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 8: if you harbor, if you go home and think about 440 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 8: it every night, you're you're you know, retarding the the 441 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 8: opportunity you might have to bounce back against the next opponent. 442 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 8: So you know, just go home at night and get 443 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 8: some get some rest at night. It's because I'm telling you, 444 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 8: after a game like this, got zero sleep. I didn't 445 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 8: sleep a wink man. I mean it was you know, 446 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 8: every time I close my eyes would be nightmares about 447 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 8: the football game. So but you know, you got to 448 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 8: get your proper rest, You got to get your proper diet. 449 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 8: Uh train right and uh let the trainers and equipment 450 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 8: guys and everybody help you and get back on course. 451 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: So it's on to Denver next Monday night. The Broncos 452 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: are one and two after losing by a field goal 453 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: to the LA Chargers. Now time for this week's fun 454 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: fact segment. On Monday September first, six days before the 455 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: season opener in Cleveland, the Bengals signed thirty four year 456 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: old eleven year VET Mike Panell, a three hundred and 457 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: thirty two pound run stopping defensive tackle. Here's defensive coordinator 458 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: Al Golden. Shortly after Panell signed with Cincinnati. 459 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 7: His stature, his reputation, the fact that he wanted to 460 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 7: be here, those are important. Those are important to us, 461 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 7: and he brings a physical presence, and obviously he can 462 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 7: still do it at his age, which is great. So 463 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 7: I'm excited to see where he's at today and then 464 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 7: go from there. 465 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 5: So you like about a statue? 466 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 7: What do I like about it? 467 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: Yes? 468 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 2: Have you seen him? 469 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 1: Once you see him, you understand why Panell has had 470 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: such a long NFL career. He is physically imposing and 471 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: hard to move. Now let's meet the person under the pads. 472 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: Time for some fun facts with defensive linemen and two 473 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: time Super Bowl champion Mike Panell. Mikey won those rings 474 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: with Kansas City in the twenty nineteen and twenty twenty 475 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: three seasons. Describe what it's like when the confetti is 476 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: falling and you've just won a super Bowl. 477 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 2: Oh man, it's a dream comes true. 478 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 10: I was fortunate enough to have my son there and 479 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 10: we able to have that ever lasting memory of playing 480 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 10: in the confetti together. 481 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: Now that is awesome. How old was he the first 482 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: time you won? 483 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 10: The first time we won, he was about four, But 484 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 10: we were in confetti the last time he was six, 485 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 10: So that was good. 486 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: What a great thrill that must be for him. On 487 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: what occasions do you wear either or both super Bowl rings? 488 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 2: Oh? 489 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 10: It has to be a very special occasion, usually a 490 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 10: ceremony or two, but usually these momentos that the family 491 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 10: went to see. So I bring a good little barbecue 492 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 10: conversation piece. 493 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 1: Certainly better than anything I have in my jewelry collection. 494 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,719 Speaker 1: We're visiting with Mike Panell. You've lived remarkable life, and 495 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: I want to start. When you were two years old, 496 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: were diagnosed with kidney cancer. You had chemo for eighteen 497 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: months before your fifth birthday. Do you remember that at 498 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: all and how did it affect you in the years 499 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 1: that followed. 500 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 10: Fortunately, I mean, you know, under those circumstances, I didn't 501 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 10: have so much of a memory of it, just from 502 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 10: what my family told me. But you know, making it 503 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 10: through that, and you know I didn't really shape or 504 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 10: feel any differently, And you know my childhood, my family 505 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 10: was really supportive. So it was just a blessing. You know, 506 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 10: try to live every day, you know, appreciative of the 507 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 10: gift that was given to me. 508 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: About ten years later, you got the news that the 509 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: chances of it coming back were slim to none. But 510 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 1: you were still a young kid at that point. Was 511 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: the fear behind you when you got that news? 512 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 10: I mean absolutely, I think My mother did a great 513 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 10: job of displaying strength and confidence through that situation to 514 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 10: where I wasn't even thinking about it. So when we, 515 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 10: you know, thankfully got the news, I was in remission 516 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 10: and you know there was very very slim chance of 517 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 10: it coming back. 518 00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 2: More relief from my mom. 519 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 10: You know, she kind of kept me in the bubble 520 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 10: where she always you know, had me just living life, 521 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 10: not thinking about it. 522 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: Speaking of your mom, going to ask you about one 523 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: other traumatic incident, and then we'll move on to football. 524 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: You grew up in Aurora, Colorado. It's obviously known for 525 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: the shooting at the movie theater. You thought that your 526 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: mom was at a movie that night, is that correct? 527 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 10: Yes, she was actually supposed to attend that. I believe 528 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 10: it was a dark night when it released. But fortunately, 529 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 10: and thank god, she fell asleep. So that was a 530 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 10: big relief for our family, and you know, just thankful 531 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 10: that turned out the right way. 532 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: All right, let's turn to football. You started your college 533 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: football career at Scottsdale Community College. After starring there, you 534 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: went to Arizona State. Unfortunately it wasn't a good fit. 535 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: Did you feel like your chances of doing what you're 536 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: doing now were slipping away. 537 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 2: No, not necessarily. My mother. You know, my family, we 538 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 2: always had a strong foundation. 539 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 10: I've always had a supreme confidence and you know, my 540 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 10: ability to play football through the circumstances. You know, I 541 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 10: always knew what I had to do to get there. 542 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 10: And you know, focus was more one of the bigger 543 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 10: things I need to get in on and maturing a 544 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 10: little bit. So through all that adversity, I still had 545 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 10: my you know, eyes and vision on the goal of 546 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 10: the NFL. 547 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: We're chatting with Mike Panell. You finished your college football 548 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: career at Colorado State Pueblo. It's a Division two school 549 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: playing for the thunder Wolves. It's quite a ways from 550 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: the bright lights of the NFL. What was that year like? 551 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 2: It was actually awesome. 552 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 10: You know, thank God for John Ristin that whole coaching 553 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 10: staff that really guided me through the process, play some 554 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 10: good ball. There was still getting you know, recruited, end 555 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 10: up getting invited to the Combine. 556 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 2: So it was good for me, very humbling and I 557 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: feel like what I needed at that time. 558 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: The coach you just mentioned, the head coach there, said 559 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 1: he knew you were different when he saw you do 560 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: a backflip. Now you are six now When was the 561 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: last time you did a backflip? 562 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 10: Probably in the off season. I do it a couple 563 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 10: of times just to test my still athletic ability. 564 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 2: So yeah, last offseason. 565 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: Now that is impressive. We would like to see video 566 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,239 Speaker 1: of that, but I'm gonna take your word for it. 567 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 1: You're in your twelfth NFL season, you are playing for 568 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: your sixth NFL team. You've had a lot of teammates 569 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: over the course of the last decade. Who are some 570 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: of your closest friends on other NFL rosters? 571 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 2: Oh? 572 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 10: Man, that list is, you know, pretty long. But you know, 573 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 10: I had a great group of veteran guys. You know, 574 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 10: Clay Matthews, you know, Leonard Williams are very close. Chris 575 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 10: Jones is one of my best friends, and you know 576 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 10: we talked football all the time. George Karloff Kiss, I mean, 577 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 10: to Mario Davis, Tymon Matthew. The list goes on, man, 578 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 10: Michael Bennett. I mean, just those were guys that are 579 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 10: really instrumental in, you know, just the process of maturity 580 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 10: and becoming a veteran. 581 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: Do you look at it as a plus that you 582 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: have been with a few different teams and therefore just 583 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: have gotten to know so many great players. 584 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 10: Absolutely, and I think you know, in any circumstance, you 585 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 10: know that many teams have called you and use your 586 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 10: abilities on. 587 00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 2: The football field. 588 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 10: You have to take that a little bit, a little 589 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 10: pride in that that you're able to fit in multiple systems, 590 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 10: that you're able to play multiple schemes with different coaches. 591 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 10: So for me, I take pride in it. 592 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 2: You know. 593 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: So I read an interview where you said, I want 594 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: to be part of something where I am more needed 595 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: than wanted. Did you feel needed when the Bengals reached 596 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: out to you? 597 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 10: You know, the unfortunate circumstances while I left Kansas City 598 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 10: and coming here and speaking with the coaching staff, you know, 599 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 10: the assistant coast, a GM, everybody being on the same page. 600 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: It was very welcome in and I knew that that's 601 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 2: where I needed to be. 602 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: You've earned the reputation of being a great run stopper. 603 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: That's a gritty job. What makes a great NFL run stopper? 604 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 2: I think this technique mentality. 605 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 10: Man, you gotta become a student of the game, and 606 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 10: it's just want to at the end of the day. 607 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: And I take great pride in that. 608 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: All Right, A few wild card topics. Now for Mike Panell, 609 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: who is your all time favorite athlete in any sport? 610 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 10: Ooh, all time favorite a fleet in any sport. I 611 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 10: have to give it to Mike Tyson. Why Iron, Mike? 612 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 10: He was just iconic, man, you know the way he 613 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 10: came in, you know, being the youngest heavyweight world champion ever. 614 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 10: He was just very you know, iconic as someone to 615 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 10: look up to in the nineties, what he did with 616 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 10: sports and business. 617 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: When you spend twelve years playing in the NFL, you 618 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: do well financially. What do you like to splur John? 619 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 2: Oh? 620 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 10: Well, now you know my kids is what my kids 621 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 10: likes to splurgs on. But you know, for me, it's 622 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 10: traveling usually. You know, I go to Tokyo every off season. 623 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 10: I've been to Iceland and all of the islands, Greece, Australia. 624 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 2: So really just traveling eating good food. 625 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: Tokyo every off season. Why Tokyo. 626 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 10: Oh, I love the food, love the culture. So you know, 627 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 10: I try to spend at least ten to twelve days 628 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 10: out there every off season, usually cherry blossom season, and 629 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 10: enjoyce food. 630 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: How did you choose it the first time? 631 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 10: It's just always somewhere I wanted to go, and you know, 632 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 10: after the season was over, COVID hit then I couldn't go. 633 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 2: Then I say, as soon as it opens up on 634 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 2: my ghost. 635 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: Do you have any talents than playing football. 636 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 2: I'm an amazing chef. 637 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 10: I can cook, you know, I can plate, So I'll 638 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 10: definitely put my head on that for sure. 639 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad that you didn't say I'm a good cook. 640 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: You said I'm an amazing chef. 641 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 2: That's next level amazing chef. You know I can do 642 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 2: it all. Yeah. 643 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,959 Speaker 1: So if you're trying to impress somebody, what's your go 644 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: to dish? 645 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 2: I'm I try and puss my lady friend. Or this 646 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 2: is just a family type thing. 647 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: Let's go lady friend a lady friend. 648 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 10: We're probably going to do a dry age steak, and 649 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 10: we're going to do a black truffle lobster risotto with 650 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 10: a little bit of broccolini on the side, and then 651 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 10: we're gonna make sure we do a dessert. I'll probably 652 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 10: do a pumpkin turnover with vanilla being ice cream and 653 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 10: candy pecans with carmar drizzle. If I'm trying to press her, Yeah, all. 654 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: Right, now you are being interviewed by the right person 655 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: because I am a foodie and that sounds amazing. What 656 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: is your favorite memory in twelve years in the NFL. 657 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 10: He'll do the first time I went the Super Bowl. 658 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 10: That was awesome. You know, my mom being there. You know, 659 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 10: a lot of hard work into that and just reach 660 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 10: a pinnacle in that moment. So one of the first ones. 661 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 2: All right. 662 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: Final question, This one's a little bit deep. If you 663 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: could meet anybody in history, living or deceased, who would 664 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: that person be? 665 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 2: Nikolai Tesla M. 666 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 10: Yeah, I'd definitely want to meet him and see, you 667 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 10: know what type of person he is. 668 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 2: You into inventors, absolutely, but I just there's a lot 669 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 2: of mystery behind him. That's someone I would definitely like 670 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 2: to meet. 671 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: All Right, this has been very interesting. Appreciate your time. 672 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: Best I've left the rest of the year. 673 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 2: All right, thank you, boss. 674 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: That's going to do it for this episode of the 675 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast, brought to you by pay Corps, Proud 676 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: to be the Bengals official HR software provider by aulta 677 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: Fiber future proof fiber Internet designed to elevate your home, 678 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: business and community to a new level, and by kettering 679 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: health the best care for the best fans. Kettering Health 680 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: is the official healthcare provider of the Bengals. 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