1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:04,439 Speaker 1: What's up everybody. 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 2: Tory mcelhaney joined by Will McFadden, and we are coming 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 2: to you for a very special Falcons Final Whistle episode. 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: We are doing a fifty three man roster projection. Now, 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 2: if you were with us, what was it two weeks 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 2: ago coming back from Miami. Yep, you know that we 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: had a part one of this and yours truly I 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: did my fifty three man roster projection. Well, now here 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: we are two weeks later. A lot has changed with 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: this team. They have traded for Matthew Judah, they have 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 2: signed Justin Simmons and will you finally did your very 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,319 Speaker 2: very first fifty three man roster projection. First off, I'm 13 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 2: really proud of you. 14 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. 15 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: You're welcome. 16 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: Second off, tell me a little bit, just big picture, 17 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: what this exercise was like for you. 18 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 3: Well, this exercise it was challenging. To be honest, it 19 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 3: was it was helpful to have I think, you know, 20 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: break through that wall first, so I was able to 21 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 3: at least have a foundation I think to refer back to. Yeah, 22 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 3: But to be quite honest, this is a podcast I 23 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 3: have been just dreading because I know I'm sitting here 24 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 3: foot in mouth eating my words because I came on 25 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 3: a little strong at a little a little bit of mustard, 26 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 3: some bijon mustardson on top of my you know my 27 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 3: I love a plug here. You know when I was 28 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 3: giving you your feedback and I was like, you're crazy 29 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 3: for X Y and Z and lo and behold x 30 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 3: Y and z or listen on my depth chart as well, 31 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 3: and it's like, so it was an exercise. I think 32 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 3: that that taught me how easy it is to just 33 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 3: kind of be like, well, of course this is gonna happen. 34 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 3: But then when you go through it and you're putting 35 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: on the GM hat and being like, okay, am I 36 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 3: really gonna leave this person off? Am I really gonna 37 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 3: like have this few of people at disposition or what 38 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 3: have you. So it was a really enlightening exercise, and 39 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: it's one honestly like I encourage everybody to do. Yeah, 40 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 3: you can do it at home. It's cool. 41 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: It's it's funny too, because I used to dread it. 42 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: I did because it was very difficult and. 43 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 3: It feels personal in a way, especially like when you 44 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 3: go talk to a guy and I liked Carlos Washington 45 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 3: sitting here and he's somebody who is in a camp battle, 46 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 3: and I'm like, I love Carlos, I know, but as 47 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 3: I'm sitting here evaluating things like what all does that mean? 48 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 3: Because again, you got to put yourself, I think in 49 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 3: the mindset of a front office or a head coach 50 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 3: or stuff where your job is going to be relying 51 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 3: on these fifty three men, and so who do you 52 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: put on that roster? 53 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: Well, let's get into it. Let's start with quarterbacks. 54 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: You carried three Kirk cousins, Michael Pennocks, junior Taylor Heineke. 55 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 2: Now I also did the same, and my reasoning was 56 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: that you look at Taylor Heineke kind of as this 57 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: long term business deal, and you look at what he 58 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: could provide you maybe in the market in the middle 59 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 2: of a season, when you know, God forbid, something happens 60 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: across the league and everybody is without a starting quarterback, 61 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: the value of Taylor Heineke goes up astronomically regardless of 62 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 2: what you have seen in the preseason. So for you 63 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: talk us through this this three man quarterback room. 64 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'll be honest, I like, I agree 65 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 3: with everything you've said it. The most valuable quarterback is 66 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 3: the one that like you don't have, And so I 67 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 3: think that when you look at what Taylor Ronie's contract 68 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 3: is and how valuable that will be if you do 69 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 3: need him. Right, like, a spare tire is something you 70 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 3: don't think about until you're broken down on the side 71 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 3: of the road and then you're like, man, I'm glad 72 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 3: I decided to go get a new spare tire. Speaking 73 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 3: of which I need to go get a new spare tire. 74 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 3: I call him donuts Donuts. 75 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: Is that a thing that's definitely no, that is absolutely 76 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: like a spare tire donut. 77 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm just using the generical, you know, but I 78 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 3: was a little bit like, I'm glad that he had 79 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 3: the second preseason game that he had because I think 80 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 3: that if if Taylor Heineke had a repeat performance of 81 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 3: that first preseason game. And I didn't put a lot 82 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 3: of stock into that because this is a new offense, 83 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 3: new players for a quarterback that is especially tough. On 84 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 3: top of Michael Pennock's getting a ton of that, so 85 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: pretty much all of the second team work because they're 86 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 3: trying to get him up the speed. So you feel 87 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 3: for the situation that Taylor heine Key was put in there, 88 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 3: so for him to respond and bounce back made it 89 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 3: easier to say, Okay, I do feel like, which I 90 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 3: felt all along, that they will have three quarterbacks on 91 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 3: this roster. If he had struggled, then it would have 92 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 3: been a little bit disier. And I do still think that, 93 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 3: and we'll get to this, but like, there's a lot 94 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 3: of tough cuts in this fifty three man roster cutdown. 95 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: If they really do have somebody they wanted this roster 96 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 3: and there's just not a spot, Like I do think 97 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 3: it behooves them to look at every single position and 98 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 3: that does include quarterback when you're looking at all, right, 99 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 3: how do we balance this thing out? But right now, yeah, 100 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 3: Taylor Heineke still on the roster. 101 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: Okay, let's move on to running backs of Jean Robinson, 102 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 2: Tyler Algier, Avery Williams, and Jace McClellan. Now, you gave 103 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: me a hard time about keeping Avery Williams, or I 104 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: say that you questioned why I kept Avery Williams, And 105 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: I'm curious when you were going through it, what was 106 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 2: the value in keeping every Williams? Is question number one? 107 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: In question number two, how hard was it to cut 108 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 2: Carlos Washington. 109 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 3: So I maybe I am not recalling giving you as 110 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 3: a hard time as clearly I did. 111 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: I think you also gave me a hard time off 112 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 2: camera as well. I think you also said I don't 113 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: know story. 114 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 3: Really, I really like how Avery Williams has shown himself 115 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 3: this training camp in preseason at the running back position, right, 116 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 3: And I think it's so easy to forget and lose 117 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: sight of the fact that he came into the league 118 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 3: as a defense back. Yeah, he was a cornerback, so 119 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 3: he is still getting acclimated to the offensive side of 120 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 3: the ball. 121 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: And he was a receiver there for a little bit too. 122 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 3: Exactly, so it's kind of like he's still finding himself. Obviously, 123 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: we know what he can do special teams wise. That 124 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 3: is why he will have a spot on this fifty 125 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 3: three man roster. I'm very confident of that, but I almost, 126 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 3: to be candid, like considered just having three running backs 127 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 3: and having Avery is that third. So like, that's how 128 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 3: much of a one eighty I've done. And I again, 129 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 3: but in mouth this whole podcast, it's amazing I can 130 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 3: even get words out in this microphone. But that just 131 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 3: seeing how he has performed in kind of the preseason 132 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 3: games and he's done nothing to lose any kind of 133 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 3: ground special teams wise, like he is going to be 134 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 3: a good football player, and he's somebody who I think 135 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 3: if we look back on the twenty twenty four season 136 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 3: and he does have a bigger role on offense, then 137 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 3: maybe we has his pay going into the season. I 138 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 3: won't be entirely surprised. I wouldn't necessarily predict that right now, 139 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 3: but I wouldn't be shocked. The reason I chose Jase 140 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 3: over Carlos is, you know, not only is is Jace 141 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 3: leading the team in rushing yard average at this point 142 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: through the preseason at least, you know, among the running backs, 143 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,119 Speaker 3: But he just kind of a he's a draft pick, 144 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 3: so like that's always gonna kind of I think. 145 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: That's that's the biggest question because I in the back 146 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 2: of my head over and over between these two, because 147 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: it's between Carlos Washington and Jase. 148 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: Mc clellan, like that's that's the cut. 149 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: And every single time I have this conversation in my 150 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: own head about the running. 151 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 3: Backs, just like one more feather in his cap. 152 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just one of those things where it's like, gosh, 153 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: if he wasn't a draft pick. If Jas McClellan and 154 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 2: Carlos Washington had the same entry into the league, how 155 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: would I feel about them? I ask myself that question 156 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: all the time, and it goes back and forth every 157 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: single time, because I like Carlos Washington that much. 158 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 3: And I'm sure there are many people listening or watching 159 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 3: this right now that are just like, you shouldn't that 160 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 3: shouldn't matter. That's that's a stupid thing to influence, and 161 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 3: it is and that's right, and so you have to. 162 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: Think about who can clear waivers you that that's the 163 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: thing is if Jason McClellan gets cut and you have 164 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: to like you have to worry about another team picking 165 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: them up if there is there are scouts looking at 166 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: these rosters every single day across the league. If they 167 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: see a draft pick, especially a running back that falls 168 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: off of a roster. 169 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: Hm that was a draft pick. 170 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 3: Like it's the same reason you see five star players 171 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: coming out of high school who may not have great 172 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 3: college careers, but then like still get drafted fairly highly. 173 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 3: And it's like the potential. It's the reason that somebody 174 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 3: before you saw something as well that makes its human 175 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 3: nature that makes you feel a little bit safer about 176 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 3: betting on that person because of the kind of like 177 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 3: herd mentality of I'm not the only one that has 178 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 3: seen this, so there must be something there. Again, no 179 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 3: idea how much if that factors in, but like it 180 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 3: certainly factors in for us. That's a hard thing, I think, 181 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 3: just human nature again to kind of like get out 182 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 3: of the way. 183 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's move on to wide receivers. And this is 184 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: where it's really interesting because if y'all listen to our 185 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 2: very first podcast where I did my fifty three main 186 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 2: roster projection, because of the nature of where we were 187 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: in camp and because they had just lostron Dell Moore 188 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: to the knee injury he had just gone on IR 189 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: at that point in time, I felt like there was 190 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: no one of this group of receivers that was stepping 191 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 2: up and extending themselves. 192 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 3: Like a reserved placard on like one of the seats, 193 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 3: but it was empty. 194 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: It was empty. 195 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: So I ended up only carrying five receivers, and I'm 196 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 2: glad that you have six because I think it's indicative 197 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: of what's happened the last two weeks. So tell us 198 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 2: a little bit about who that six receiver is, because 199 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: you have Drake len and Darnel Mooney, Ray Ray McLeod, 200 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 2: Cadaryl Hodge, Casey Washington, which I think we can lock in. 201 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: But who's number six for you. 202 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 3: Chris Blair? I mean it's got to be So's. He's 203 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 3: third in the NFL in receiving yards in the preseason, 204 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 3: but he's only third by three yards. So there are 205 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 3: two players tied I think with one hundred and thirty nine, 206 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 3: and he has one hundred and thirty six, okay, obviously 207 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 3: at ninety one yards in this past game. And he's 208 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 3: doing in a variety of ways. First game, he catches 209 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 3: that really nice one down the sideline, but then we're 210 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 3: seeing him run some of these over routes. We're seeing 211 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 3: catch some passes under me and continue to get guards 212 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 3: after the catch gap. He is doing a little bit 213 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 3: of everything. And it was funny when I was doing 214 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 3: this exercise, I went and actually pulled up the Los 215 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 3: Angeles Rams fifty three man rosters, their initial fifty three 216 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 3: man rosters from the last three seasons. Because new offense, right, 217 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 3: that's obviously where it has some of its its roots, 218 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: but transitioning from Arthur Smith's offense to Zach Robinson's offense, 219 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 3: Like there's going to be some changes. What once was 220 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 3: when it came to the fifty three man roster may 221 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 3: be totally different. So that's kind of why I looked 222 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 3: and also why I was when I saw five, even 223 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 3: though I understood your reasoning, I was like, I feel like, 224 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 3: there's no way they carry only five receivers. They've got 225 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 3: to carry more. And it's honestly, Chris Blair has kind 226 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 3: of made it easy, like she has just stood out 227 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 3: in really every way. He stood out again in today's scrimmage, 228 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 3: like he's developing a rapport with Michael Pennox, but he's 229 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 3: also kind of making those plays when he does have 230 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 3: any opportunity with the other quarterbacks. So it just seems 231 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 3: like he's a nice, comfortable security blanket for these guys. 232 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 3: He is where he's supposed to be at the right time. 233 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 3: He has good hands, very reliable, yes, and where heem 234 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 3: likes to talk about clones, and I was trying to 235 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 3: be like, Okay, so as we're going through this these 236 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 3: cutdowns and role clarity is such a big part of 237 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 3: this for the whole staff, Like who is Chris Blair 238 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 3: a clone of? It's not Drake Lennon, because I don't 239 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 3: know if there is a clone of Drake London. It's 240 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 3: not Ray Ray mcclott. It's like Caderrel Hodge. They're both 241 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 3: six ' to two, around two hundred pounds, and they 242 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 3: both kind of like if Cadarrel Hodge takes Chris Blair 243 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 3: under his wing and teaches him how to be this 244 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 3: insane special teams like hype Beast and also just a 245 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 3: quality possession receiver who is reliable when counted upon. Chris 246 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 3: Blair will play in this league for seven, eight, nine 247 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 3: seasons like that is awesome for a young player to 248 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 3: kind of be taking these steps in a preseason. That's 249 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 3: exactly what you want to see. And it's why I've 250 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 3: got him on my fifty three manter rouster. 251 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 2: Along with wide receivers, are numbers also differed at tight 252 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 2: end and I carried four. You carried three Kyle Pitch, 253 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 2: Charlie Warner and Rossdwlly. So that means John Fitzpatrick did 254 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: not make the cut for your fifty three man roster projection. 255 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: Why was that? 256 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? I felt really bad about this, and honest personally, 257 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 3: I felt horrible. You know, former Bulldog All that that stuff, 258 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 3: it was really is tough. When I was looking at 259 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 3: the snap counts for the second preseason game, obviously, you know, 260 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: Falcons kind of made headlines around the league for decisions 261 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 3: to sit out a large number of players, specifically though 262 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 3: Michael Pennox with kind of those national headlines, and so 263 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 3: it was more about, like, all right, who didn't they 264 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 3: sit out to me, because I think that if you 265 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 3: sat out, it makes me feel pretty good about your chances, 266 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 3: yep to get on this roster. And so when you 267 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 3: looked at who was sitting out, Kyle Pitts obviously, but 268 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 3: Charlie Warner and Ross Welly the other two tight ends. 269 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 3: John Fitzpatrick played the second most offensive snaps of anybody 270 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 3: in that second preseason game, behind Javon Gwynn, who played 271 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 3: every single snap spit splitting time between center and guard. 272 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 3: So that kind of spoke to me a little bit. 273 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 3: And then in watching some of the tape back, like 274 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 3: I don't know if he's had the best preseason, Like, 275 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 3: I just don't know if he has like a lot 276 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 3: of the stuff that I was talking about, Charlie Warner 277 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 3: and the scrimmage, doing the little things handling him at 278 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 3: a high level and just kind of generally like playing 279 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 3: your role. That is such a big thing for a 280 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 3: tight end, and it's not like he's not doing that, 281 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 3: but it's just you've got two other guys in Warner 282 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 3: and Dwelly who are doing that at almost every single play, 283 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 3: and then Kyle Pitts obviously is Kyle Pitts. Yeah. So again, 284 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 3: it had less to do, I think, with John Fitzpatrick 285 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 3: and a little bit more to do with some of 286 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 3: the other players who are right on this cut line. 287 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 3: And as I was trying to factor and balance stuff, 288 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 3: it was like, all right, well, I've been more impressed 289 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 3: with this other guy than I have here, So if 290 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 3: I've got to make a decision, that's the decision to 291 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 3: be made. 292 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's fair and something that I 293 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 2: I'll challenge you on because this is I mean, this 294 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: is what we're doing here, is with You're talking about 295 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: the preseason and how many reps John Fitzpatrick got in 296 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: the preseason, and I think we're so used to Arthur 297 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: Smith carrying eight tight ends for better or for worse, 298 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 2: that I think people forget there aren't that many tight 299 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 2: ends on the ninety man roster. By nature by design 300 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 2: because of the offensive scheme that they're wanting to run. 301 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: And I honestly think. 302 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 3: That they didn't have to think about this right like 303 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 3: they did. If you don't play John's like literally, somebody's 304 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 3: got to be out there. 305 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 2: Someone has to be out there, So that that would 306 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 2: just be my one argument that I would. 307 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 3: Have about So I yes, and I thought about that Stogner, 308 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 3: who is the fifth string tight end, only played like 309 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 3: six snaps really, so I'm kind of that's where to me, 310 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, interesting, if that was gonna be the argument, 311 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 3: you would think then that Fitzpatrick goold have come off 312 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 3: the field at halftime and then Youner in there with 313 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 3: the rest of that. But like that wasn't the balance either, 314 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 3: So again, I totally see your point. Yeah, and I 315 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 3: may be wrong, like he they've gotten all those reps 316 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 3: for development reasons, right, and they felt like but that 317 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 3: was just kind of what stood out to me there. 318 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 3: Today's episode of Falcons Final Whistle is brought to you 319 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 3: by Zaxby's. And after a long game, when I'm tired 320 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 3: and I need to refuel, I turned to Zaxbies. Their 321 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 3: marinated handbreaded fried to perfection chicken fingers. They hit the 322 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 3: spot every time. 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I think I'm 331 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: seventy five percent where you were, Like, I can't believe 332 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 2: you did that, can't believe you only carried eight offensive linemen. 333 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 2: But guess who carried eight offensive linemen in their fifty 334 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 2: three man projection? Will beg Fad and everyone Jake Matthews, 335 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: Matthew Berger and Drew Daloman, Chris Lynstrum, Kale McGarry and 336 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 2: Storm Norton, Kyle Hinton, Ryan Noosel the exact height that 337 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 2: I had online. Walk me through your decision and why 338 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: you went back on what you said. 339 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 3: Will So I did have javon. I had nine until 340 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 3: like literally I went to publish this piece, I had 341 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 3: Javon Gwynn in there, the I will say, and this 342 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: is the deepest cut that I could possibly make, and 343 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 3: I am just becoming a caricature of myself at this 344 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 3: point in time. My favorite camp battle this whole camp 345 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 3: has been Ile Hinten against Javon Wwynn, the backup interior 346 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 3: like reserve offensive lineman battle. But you honestly has helped 347 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 3: me appreciate the coaching that this offensive line has starting 348 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 3: with Dwayne Leadford, but their ability to just like communicate 349 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 3: pass things off. The fact that you've got you know, 350 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 3: Kyle Hinton, Ryan Noosel, and Jaehn Gwynn right next to 351 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 3: each other for prety much that first half in Baltimore 352 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 3: against you know, this is Baltimore's defensive line. So even 353 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 3: though it's the reserves, like, they have a very high 354 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 3: standard in that organization for defensive line play, and I 355 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 3: thought they handled it really well, and I thought both 356 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 3: Gwynn and him had really solid games. I like the 357 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 3: fact that Javon Gwynn has the center guard inside versatility, 358 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 3: but I do think he's a little bit boxed out 359 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 3: by Nowsle and then boxed out by Hinton. And so 360 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 3: again as I was looking at the balance of the 361 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 3: whole roster. I tried really hard to get Javon Gwynn 362 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 3: kind of in there on that ninth spot because I 363 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 3: think he's earned it. I think I think he deserves 364 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 3: for his play to be rewarded in that way. But 365 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 3: then you're like, another big factor is practice squad eligibility. 366 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 3: I don't think Kyle Hinton has any more practice squad eligibility, 367 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 3: and I do believe javong Wynn going into his second 368 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 3: year like he's still eligible for that. So again, who 369 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 3: makes who makes your practice waw? So like, these are 370 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 3: all calculations that I was going through, but based on 371 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 3: play alone, Like javan Wins impressed me, Kyle Hinton has 372 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 3: impressed me. It's not been perfect for your guy throughout 373 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 3: training camp for the preseason, but it never is. And 374 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 3: so like that was maybe my toughest cut. But again, 375 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 3: it's like am or Chris Blair or Ham and Jason mcclella. 376 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 3: It's like, how am I going to balance all of 377 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 3: this out? And that's going to be our very next 378 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 3: position group. I'm sure you'll have some more things to 379 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 3: say about that, but. 380 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: I'm just coming with the sas today with. 381 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 3: Which I love, I'm You're just you carried how many 382 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 3: crows do you have for me to eat a lot? 383 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 3: A lot of them? 384 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 2: You carried eight defensive linemen and you said two weeks ago, Tory, 385 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: you carried eight defensive linemen and that may be too many? 386 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 2: And I said then, I was like, I can't keep 387 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 2: these guys off the roster. 388 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: I can't do it. 389 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: I've said it many a times since we recorded that podcast. 390 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: So how did I convince you? 391 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 3: Well? What it was was? Honestly, it was. It was 392 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 3: like a bridesmaid's groomsman situation. I wanted to make sure 393 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 3: I had one of each defensive linemen and offensive so 394 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 3: that that's really what I went. Now, it was just 395 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 3: so hard. It was so like, am I gonna leave 396 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 3: Coentavious Street office roster? Now? Am I going to leave 397 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 3: Eddie Goleman off this roster? Based on what we saw 398 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 3: on Wednesday and Wednesday Scrimmage? Like no, heck no, why wouldn't? 399 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 3: Why would I do that? So like this roster and 400 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 3: this was the spot I felt it the most. Is 401 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 3: just the unknown of it all because it is year 402 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 3: one going into Rahee Morris's tenure as head coach. Going 403 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 3: into Zach Robinson and Jimmy Lakes tenure as offensive and 404 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 3: defensive coordinator, and that is both like makes this part complicated, 405 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 3: but it should also really benefit I think this team 406 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 3: early on in the season is that unknown element of 407 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 3: you kind of don't know what our identity is going 408 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 3: to be yet the coaching staff has kind of also 409 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 3: said we want that identity to develop itself out there 410 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 3: on the field, and so that is where more than 411 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 3: anything else, I think the mentality of like, let's get 412 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 3: the fifty three best men on this roster is the 413 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 3: default at this point time. And they talk about role clarity, 414 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 3: but that's almost role clarity within that broader mindset that 415 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 3: you have to have where it's just can you help 416 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 3: us win on a Sunday. Yeah, Like all of these 417 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 3: defensive linemen, all eight of them, I feel very good 418 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 3: about having to help win on a Sunday, Like they 419 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 3: can do that. And the depth element is going to 420 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 3: be important as well, Like Knavias Street looks a lot 421 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 3: like Brady Jared looks a lot like David Onimada, Like 422 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 3: it's very clear that that's a clone of two guys. 423 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 3: You know, Eddie Goldman is a little bit unique among 424 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 3: this group because he's three hundred and twenty five pounds 425 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 3: and they don't have another player like that. They've got 426 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 3: Zion Loga, but like he's a rookie, and you know, 427 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 3: I think he's a very good practice squad candidate as well. 428 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 3: So yeah, when you're it's the combination of overall skill 429 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 3: player like skill and the role clarity that we talked about, 430 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 3: And I just can envision each of these guys like 431 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 3: in a clear role. Even though they may only have 432 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 3: like three defensive linemen out there on the field at 433 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 3: a time, like eight of these guys deserve to be 434 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 3: on the fifty three. So that's that's why I had 435 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,719 Speaker 3: to ultimately join your line of thinking there. As much 436 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 3: as I hated it, as much as I tried. 437 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 2: I know you probably tried really really hard, and you're like, 438 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 2: just dang it, I can't have Tory b Right. 439 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 3: I was gonna have twenty six offensive lineman on my 440 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 3: roster and I was gonna have one defensive lineman. That's 441 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,239 Speaker 3: what I was going to do to show you, but 442 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 3: I just couldn't make it work. Oh yeah, all right, 443 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 3: outside linebacker. 444 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 2: Our first time seeing Matthew judeon really truly in this group. 445 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 2: Saw him in the depth chart on two that was 446 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 2: released on Tuesday. But this is when we're talking about 447 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 2: what this team will look like come week one. Matthew 448 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 2: Judeon leading this group and leading this position, that's what 449 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 2: we're gonna see. You have four outside linebackers, do Matthew 450 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 2: jude On, Lorenzo Carter, Arnold Abakhetti and James Smith Williams. 451 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: I know that this was I feel like this was 452 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 2: maybe an easy decision for you. But when you think 453 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: about guys like d'mone Harris, guys like D'Angelo and Malone, 454 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 2: who let's be honest, they've worked really hard in this 455 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: preseason and they've shown us some good things, especially Damone Harris. 456 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 2: How tough was this room to keep at four and 457 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 2: kind of look and see like, dang, you know, it's the. 458 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 3: Flip side of the coin with those a defensive linemen, right, 459 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 3: because if you're gonna maybe loop like think about corners 460 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 3: in safeties, right, some some teams will just be like, 461 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 3: here's our ten defensive backs and it's up to whoever 462 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 3: to sort out how they're going to play those. Some 463 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 3: define them as corners and safeties. So this could have 464 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 3: very easily just been like here's twelve guys for the 465 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 3: front seven or that front kind of five. But it's 466 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 3: because of the play of the defensive line and keeping 467 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 3: those numbers there. And honestly, when we're talking about kind 468 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 3: of like pass rush and where that coming from, I 469 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 3: like some of the interior guys and the chops that 470 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 3: they bring as pass rushers. kN Tavia Street included in 471 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 3: that mix maybe more than I like James Smith Williams 472 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 3: potential as a pass rusher. Right, So I think the 473 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 3: guys that you have at outside linebacker, including the addition 474 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 3: to Matthew Judon, like they're actually going to be pretty excellent. 475 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 3: I think it's setting the edge and defending against the run, 476 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 3: and so I think you can almost specifically yeah, yeah, 477 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 3: and Matthew Judon as well. Like basically Arnold Abakatia, I 478 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 3: think is your one kind of pure hair on fire 479 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 3: off the edge pass rusher. But Damon Harris has had 480 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 3: moments against the run like DeAngelo Malone though is probably 481 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 3: the guy and we may get to this at the Varian, 482 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 3: but like he could be like man fifty four for 483 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 3: me on this roster the way he has played on 484 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 3: special teams. We're talking about a former draft pick. So 485 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 3: again everything we said about draft picks, like back to 486 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 3: that over here, but like he has just done everything. 487 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 3: I feel like he needs to to make this roster. 488 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 3: And again, as you just look at the fifty three 489 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 3: puzzle pieces that you got to put together, that makes 490 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 3: the picture, and now there's one puzzle piece kind of 491 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 3: like left out that that you don't know what to 492 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 3: do with, and I hate that. But again, yeah, like 493 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 3: the Matthew Judon coming in bumped everybody down the list 494 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 3: a little bit, and so dimone Harris Tangelain alone, like 495 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 3: they may be the guys on the outside looking in, 496 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 3: even though I think that they've both had again great 497 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 3: great training camps. 498 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 499 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 2: Ins On Linebacker, I feel like do you even need 500 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 2: to talk about it? Kaden Ellis, Troy Anderson, Nate Lamb 501 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 2: and j D Bertrand I feel like what is there 502 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 2: left to say? This has been the group from day one. 503 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 3: Those guys are good at football. 504 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: They are. 505 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, That's all I have to say about that. 506 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 2: Nothing else to add, all Right, Cornerback, you have a 507 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 2: de Cherrell, Mike Cues, d Alford, Clark Phillips. The third 508 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 2: Kevin king Antonio Hamilton Senior, the same group that I 509 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 2: had two weeks ago. Does this group also feel pretty 510 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 2: set in the same way it does? 511 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 3: Like, I'm trying to think about what to make of 512 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 3: to Anthony Johnson and Trump Brooks of it all. Yeah, 513 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 3: because you were very high on Anthony Johnson going to 514 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 3: the last game, he didn't have a great game. On 515 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 3: the flip side of Trump Brooks probably was like the 516 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 3: player of the game. So no, Trump Brooks is somebody 517 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 3: who has been around, and so this isn't the first 518 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 3: training camp. You know, this isn't like he's not new 519 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 3: to this. The coaches aren't necessarily new to him, and 520 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 3: so what do they make of all of that? On 521 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 3: the flip side, you've got like Antonio Hamilton and Kevin 522 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 3: King her who are both older but like also a 523 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,959 Speaker 3: little bit you know, with Kevin it's a little bit 524 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 3: of a reclamation because he's just been away from the 525 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 3: field for two years. But Antonio, you've got a guy 526 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 3: who has played a lot of football already but really 527 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 3: kind of popped last year late in his career almost, 528 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 3: So what do you make of that? Again? Like, but 529 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 3: those are my ideal types of depth pieces in the secondary, 530 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 3: where you've got somebody who's seen a lot of football 531 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 3: who probably isn't going to make many mistakes, but he 532 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 3: may not like overwhelm you with his physical skills or 533 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 3: whatever in Antonio Hamilton. And then you've got Kevin King, 534 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 3: a former second round pick but top of the second 535 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 3: round yep, so borderline first round pick with a lot 536 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 3: of these like cool athletic traits. He's a bigger dude, 537 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 3: he's long, he's like fast, he can move really fluidly, 538 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 3: do a lot of different things. But again, the biggest 539 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 3: word that's kind of come up with the coaching staff 540 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 3: when talking about him is his trust. And it's just 541 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 3: we need to trust you for fifty six snaps on 542 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 3: a Sunday to go out there and maybe only allow 543 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 3: one or two big plays, right, and after not being 544 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 3: on the field for two years, it's just going to 545 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 3: take a little bit of time. I think they're on 546 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 3: that trust pack, and that's fair. Those guys have played 547 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 3: well in their moments, They've done nothing. I think they 548 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 3: were a little bit ahead in the pecking order when 549 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 3: camp started. And because nobody is in the secondary really 550 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 3: like drop the ball on this, like that's just how 551 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 3: I see it shaken out? 552 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too, Safety Jesse Bates a third Justin 553 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 2: Simmons there he is, Richie Grant and DeMarco Helms. Talk 554 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 2: me through this safety position because I know the last 555 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: time we chatted about fifty three man roster projection at 556 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 2: the time didn't have Justin Simmons. Now you insert him 557 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 2: into this group, and I still think I still hold 558 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 2: on to DeMarco Helms makes the fifty three man roster 559 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 2: and then gets put on IR with the ankle injury 560 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 2: that he's missing significant time for. So how do you 561 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 2: kind of see this group shaking out? And what does 562 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 2: the insertion of Justin Simmons do for how you looked 563 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 2: at this safety group. 564 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was kind of the same thing 565 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 3: as almost outside linebacker. And I think what I use, 566 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 3: or the word that I used in talking about the 567 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 3: outside linebacker was like clarify, like it just kind of 568 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 3: helped when you bump everybody down a little bit, like naturally, 569 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 3: each of those spots gets a little bit stronger. And 570 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 3: so when we're talking about a four that you know 571 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 3: includes DeMarco Helms as the fourth, that's a pretty strong group. Yeah, 572 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 3: you know, even though DeMarco Helmes is going to be 573 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 3: out for a while, like that is still a stronger 574 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 3: foursome than it was when we entered camp and we 575 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 3: were sitting here trying to be like, Okay, so we 576 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 3: know that we have three that are fighting, but like, 577 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 3: who's even going to emerge behind that? Is it Mike Abernathy, 578 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 3: is it? You know, Lucas Dennis? Is it Dane Crookshank, 579 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 3: Like that kind of part of it to me now 580 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 3: is like off to the side. Yes, because again you 581 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 3: were we're now really excited about Justin Simmons and Jesse 582 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 3: Bass out there and also Kevin King getting some like 583 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 3: hybrid look and Richie Grant in maybe a hybrid role 584 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 3: as well. So you've added, you freed up maybe I 585 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 3: should say, some of these guys who could have been 586 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 3: locked into more traditional roles. Now you've got some awesome 587 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 3: players in these freelance roles a little bit more so 588 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 3: it like I don't know if there was a player 589 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 3: And this is like I know everybody's eye on Mike 590 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 3: abernathink he's played well, and I know like Dan Crookshank 591 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 3: had a really good first game against Miami and Lucas 592 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 3: Dennis had an interception out there today in the scrimmage. 593 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 3: It's like they're doing great things. But to me, they 594 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 3: never popped in the way that I you know, I 595 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 3: think to some other people they did. So it wasn't 596 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 3: the hardest decision, I think to make for me to 597 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 3: just kind of say, okay, like you're going to be 598 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 3: year four. Now the question becomes if and when they 599 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 3: place Hellm's on in should reserve, how do they use 600 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 3: that freed up spot? And that I think will depend 601 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 3: a little bit on how long exactly Helen's is out, 602 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 3: which we don't know at this point in time. Whatever 603 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 3: significant means. But do they use that to go bring 604 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 3: in another safety to fill that void or does that 605 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 3: free you up to then add the Angela alone back 606 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 3: to this roster? Is that for you up to you know, 607 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 3: bring John Fitzpatrick? Like That's how this math is just interesting. 608 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 2: You just give it to Micah Abernathy, right, yes, right, 609 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 2: like do you just okay, like he clears waivers, We're good, 610 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 2: Like we have our four safeties. 611 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 3: Right. That's so there's a lot of ways that it's 612 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 3: like a little bit of an X factor, even post 613 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 3: roster cut down. 614 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 2: So to wrap up, I won't go into the specialists. 615 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 2: Y'all know who they are, but will We've kind of 616 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 2: sprinkled in some names here and there. But when you 617 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 2: look back, you asked me this question. I'm going to 618 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 2: ask you this question. When you looked back on your 619 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: fifty three man roster, what were the three or so 620 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 2: names that were the hardest to leave off of this? 621 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean so like first off, it again, it 622 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 3: was like Dangelo Malone just like kills me. He's done, 623 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 3: He's done everything, Like he's been maybe the most entertaining 624 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 3: player in the preseason to watch. And I know he's 625 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 3: just like playing special teams, but he's almost made the 626 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 3: coverage units like must watch TV for me because this 627 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 3: is gonna find and weirdly, like Matt Collins did the 628 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 3: same thing. Like last year, I think Troy Anderson was 629 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 3: a rookie, like was kind of the same way. Yeah, 630 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 3: just like you always have these players and so for 631 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 3: D'Angelo Malone, he was not on my bingo card starting 632 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 3: training camp. Is like, this guy's gonna ball out at 633 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 3: special teams, but he has, and so shouts out to 634 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 3: him for doing that. 635 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 2: I literally said when we were in Baltimore was like 636 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 2: another day another D'Angelo malone special teams tackle. 637 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 3: Exactly like I mean everywhere. He's all over the place 638 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 3: on special teams and usually that is the type of 639 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 3: effort that is rewarded with a fifty three man roster spot. 640 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 3: That is exactly the quintessential cliche of like you gotta 641 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 3: earn it on special teams in training camp, and I 642 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 3: would argue he has, but he's he's on the outside 643 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,959 Speaker 3: looking then one spot, so he was a tough one. 644 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 3: I mentioned Javon Gwynn. I really just have have loved 645 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 3: watching him play. I think he's developing. So so that's 646 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 3: another one for me. And then I'm trying to think 647 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 3: of like who that third one would be because like 648 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 3: I mentioned Fitzpatrick, I mentioned Carlos Washington. I think both 649 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 3: of those guys could could be back on that practice squad. 650 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 3: Is there anybody that that I'm missing out on that the. 651 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 2: I know you're not really how Micah Abernathy, No, I'm 652 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 2: like I am, but I know this wasn't I know 653 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 2: and like. 654 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 3: And it's just never it's never clicked for me with him. 655 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 3: I don't know why that is. Everybody I like but 656 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 3: maybe the inside linebackers the other guys, because we just 657 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 3: that front four has been so solidified. But Donovan Muton 658 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 3: and Milo Eifler have had really good practices, have had 659 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 3: really good preseason games. So I haven't locked in on 660 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 3: those two guys as much as I have some of 661 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 3: the other players specifically because of what we've been talking about, 662 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 3: Like those first four just feel like written in pen Yeah, 663 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,479 Speaker 3: but they have they have had really strong games, So 664 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 3: maybe those guys. 665 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: All right, I like it. 666 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 3: It's good time Harris as well with dimone, Yeah, I was. 667 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: I was going to say Dimon Harris for sure. 668 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 2: All right, will Well, congratulations on getting through your first 669 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 2: fifty three man roster projection. I know it took a 670 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 2: lot out of you, and I do know that I 671 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 2: gave you a lot of sass all my boy, right, 672 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 2: only a little bit. That's just all good fun. 673 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 3: I can handle it. 674 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: Just to keep you on your toes. 675 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 2: Everyone, fifty three man roster actual cut down is coming 676 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 2: very very soon, August twenty seventh. Before we get to 677 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 2: that day, though, Karen walk will be running our final 678 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 2: fifty three man roster projection. Her on her, all eyes 679 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 2: on her, will and Taren are going to sit down 680 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,479 Speaker 2: to go over her roster projection, and then we're going 681 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 2: to get the main thing, the absolute main one, and 682 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 2: we'll all three come in here and we'll talk about it, 683 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 2: we'll argue about it. It'll be fun. So make sure 684 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 2: you like subscribe to all of the things. This has 685 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 2: been The Falcon's Final Whistle podcast, brought to you by Zaxby's. 686 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 2: I'm Tory mcalaney for Will McFadden. Thank you so much 687 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 2: for joining us.