1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Before we jump in, we must warn you this episode 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: contains explicit content, such as sexual abuse that may be 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: disturbing to some people. Listener discretion is advised. Also, if 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: this is the first time you're listening to Sacred Scandal, 5 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: everything will make a lot more sense if you start 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: with episode one. Alondro Campus Rode to Helen Earth began 7 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: around nineteen ninety when she was eight years old. Every August, 8 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: la Us del Mundo members from all over the world 9 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: descend on Armosa Provincia to celebrate the church and its 10 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: training apostle, and Alondra's family was no exception, making the 11 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 1: fifteen hundred mile track from Los Angeles to Arajara. On 12 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: such occasions, kits and adults celebrate separately. The adults go 13 00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: to the Grand Temple, where emotionally charged ceremonies filled with ways, 14 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: prostrations and tears can last four hours. The kids are 15 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: sent to daycam free child care courteousy of L A. 16 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 2: D M. 17 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: That's what happened to Alondra. Her parents went to temple 18 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: and she went to the kids room, and that's when 19 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: it happened. Alone in the children's room, away from her parents. 20 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: A woman in charge of babysitting. The children picked little 21 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: Alondra out from the crowd. She brought to eight year 22 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: old to a separate room where the apostle Samuel Joakin 23 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: was waiting. He sat her on his lap, caressed her face, 24 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: and proceeded to rape her. She cried and screamed in pain. 25 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: She could not understand what was happening to her, but 26 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: the unknown woman who took her there. All through the 27 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: ordeal kept telling her how this was God's will, this 28 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: was the path to heaven for her and her family. 29 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: When it was over, Alondra was instructed to keep it 30 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: all a secret. If she told, she would damn her 31 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: loved ones. To help and keep it a secret, she did, 32 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: entering a world of abuse that would continue for over 33 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: thirty years. Alonda's story is not unique. We've heard versions 34 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: of it before with Sochi and her aunt, with Muses 35 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: and his sisters, and every one of them Sochi, Souchel's mother, 36 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: and her aunt, muss sisters and mother was brought to 37 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: the apostle by an older woman. Oftentimes it was a 38 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: woman in their own family, someone they trusted, and sometimes, 39 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: like with Alondre, it was just any woman from the church. 40 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: One of the many that took care of the Apostles' needs. 41 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: In today's episode, we explore one of the most twisted 42 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: parts of Laluzel Mundo's story, the women who help the 43 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: apostles in their depraved acts. They're not an official entity 44 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 1: inside LEDM, but they are very well known, so well 45 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: known that the Mexican press gave them a name, the Vestals, 46 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: a reference to the Greco Roman virgin priestesses chosen from 47 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: high born families and granted rights and freedoms other women 48 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: didn't have. Often victims of abuse themselves, these women help 49 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: the apostles groom young girls and boys for their pleasure, 50 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: like the Joaquins under crimes. The pattern began with the 51 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: original apostle, Aaron and with his wife Elisa Floris this 52 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: Sacred Scandal, Season two, episode six, The Vestals. The tragic 53 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: irony of our religious organization, like Laluzelle, is that its 54 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: members often find the cult at a dark moment in 55 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: your lives. For example, such In Martin's great grandmother joined 56 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: in the nineteen thirties when LDM was just a small 57 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: time church on the outskirts of Walajara under a possladon. 58 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 3: My grandpa's mother and my grandmother's mother who were members 59 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 3: of the cult in Baja California. They came from very 60 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 3: broken homes, abusive husbands. You know, I have my great 61 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: grandfather was abusive and he was a pedophile. 62 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: At first, she felt like she had found community as 63 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: I have haven from her husband's many abuses. 64 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 3: And so can you just imagine how this poor girl 65 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 3: is in a place in her life where she feels 66 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: that she's all alone and abused in her life, so 67 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 3: she finds an organization that tells her she's special and love. 68 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 3: You know, she was a very beautiful woman. 69 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: And that feeling, the feeling of belonging, of being wanted 70 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: and important that the COLT gives you, coupled with the 71 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: thought control we discussed in previous episodes, means that when 72 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: the abuse starts up, it feels normal, almost like a blessing. 73 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,119 Speaker 1: To reject it would mean rejecting this community that gives 74 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: you such a warm, special feeling. And this pattern of 75 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: abuse in l em is nothing new. As Sachel says, 76 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: it began with Aron. 77 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 3: I believe that Aaron Elsebo essentially was a sick person 78 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 3: and he was a pedophile. 79 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: The cult's first big public scandal was in nineteen forty 80 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: two when it came out that the apostl Aaron, had 81 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: raped and impregnated his stepsister, Juad aluperre A Gonzalez, the 82 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: daughter of his father's second and much younger wife. 83 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: So you have this powerful man who is already sick, 84 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: who has access to little girls around him. 85 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: On December twenty sixth, nineteen forty two, the Whialahara newspaper 86 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: Eluxidenthal published testimonies from people who had left the church, 87 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: recounting Ron's frequent abuses of very young women. While Arn 88 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: abused many young girls in the church, there was one 89 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: case that was particularly sordid. When Aron's father passed away, 90 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: he stepped in to take care of his stepmother and stepsister. 91 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: Aaron started abusing his stepsister when she was just eleven 92 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: years old and under his care. She bore him a 93 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: son in nineteen thirty five, when he was almost forty 94 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: and she was barely fourteen. When the family was informed 95 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: of the pregnancy, Aron's wife, Elisa, tried to cover up 96 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: her husband's rape and incest by making the pregnancy disappear. 97 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: She arraigned for Wallaalupe to miss carry the girl refused 98 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: and fled to a neighbor in state to give birth safely. 99 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: Despite this very public scandal and Aaron's obvious improprieties, not 100 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: only was he abusing you girls, he was also cheating 101 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: on his wife. Elisa stayed, and not only did she stay, 102 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: she tried to cover up his wrongdoings, which is one 103 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: aspect of the LLDM story. I've always been curious about 104 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: the women. All of the Apostles had wives, wives who 105 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: were close to their husbands and oversaw various duties of 106 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: running the church's businesses. They all share the apostles glory, 107 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: and they all followed Elissa's footsteps, not only covering their 108 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: husband's crimes, but often aiding and abetting them. What were 109 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: they thinking? So, I yes, such and Martin, did any 110 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: of you meet the women of the Apostles because that 111 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: interests me highly Like because they knew, I mean, I'm 112 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: thinking they knew what was happening. How can they condone 113 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: what their husbands were doing? 114 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 3: The wives like actual wives of the Apostles. 115 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: Yes, I mean exactly the actual wives. I mean Elisa 116 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: Flores Ba Garcia, Yelma Samora Eva Garcia was the wife 117 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: of Samoe Joaquin and Alma Samora is the wife of 118 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: Nasa Joaquin, and they all seem to follow Elisa's founding 119 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: tradition of covering up their husband's crimes to a tea well. 120 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 3: Elisa and Eva would essentially be their first gloomors of 121 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 3: their husbands. 122 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: Sochil never met Aron's wife, but she knew ever of her. 123 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: Samuel used to say, God has not given me as 124 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: a companion a woman, but an angel. Sochill saw her often, 125 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: but under a different light. 126 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 3: Eva never spoke, but she was always there. She was 127 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 3: always around. 128 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: Sochel remembers Eva's standing watch over the ritual erotic dances 129 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: she participated in as a young girl of ten. The 130 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: ones were she, along with other young elal dm teens 131 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: and twins, performed for Samuel, sometimes wearing sexy underwear and 132 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: erotic costumes, sometimes nothing at all. So she was present. 133 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 3: She was there, Yeah, she was there, and she very 134 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: much knew that he had his concubines and all the 135 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 3: abuse that would happen to these young women and the 136 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 3: boys and the little girls is something that for sure 137 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 3: Evan knew. 138 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: The tradition of the apostle's wife not just standing by 139 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: but actively participating in the abuses continued with Nasson's wife 140 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: Alma something such It also knows about firsthand. 141 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 3: I was just I was a young girl. I was sixteen, 142 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 3: seventeen years old when she saw her husband take me 143 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 3: to his office and keep me there for three hours 144 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 3: at a time, you know, and she would listen to 145 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 3: a lot of the noises that would happen, and it's 146 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 3: like you never thought of opening the door or saying, hey, 147 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 3: you know, maybe this kid needs help. 148 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: And Suchill was not the only survivor who witnessed I'll 149 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: ignore and sometimes even take part in her husband's abuses. 150 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: Occasionally she even got into bed with her husband and 151 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: his victims. 152 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 3: I met some of the other survivors of Nasen and 153 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 3: how some of them even said she was in bed 154 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 3: with them. And so that just proves to me, and 155 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 3: I'm like, she's just a person who couldn't give two 156 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: shits about all the abuse that was happening around her. 157 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 3: Just don't get me involved. 158 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: Souchill confidently says the wives of the apostles are totally complicit. 159 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 3: But in the end, she's just as guilty because she 160 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 3: saw it happen for years and it just was not 161 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 3: convenient for her to speak. 162 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: We can only guess as to why these women don't 163 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: speak up and stand idly by as their husband commits 164 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: these horrible crimes. But as Suchill says, it's not in 165 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 1: their best interest. For one, it would jeopardize their comfortable 166 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: lifestyle as the wives of the apostles, and for another, 167 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: anticipating enables them to strengthen their partner's power and thus 168 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: their own power. Wise, LLEDM basically works like a giant 169 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: pyramid scheme. The apostles are at the top, ordinary members 170 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: of the congregation are at the bottom, and in the 171 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: hierarchy between the apostles and the congregation are men. Because 172 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: it's only men who hold positions of power in LDM, 173 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: like ministers, deacons, pastors, and bishops, who are always looking 174 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: for ways to climb the ranks. 175 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 3: So you have your membership, and within these members you 176 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 3: always have one that says, hey, I want to do 177 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 3: something more for LDM. I want to do something more 178 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 3: for my people. 179 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: So maybe LDM would send this eager member and his 180 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: family on a mission to a small outposts like Hawaii, say, 181 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: or San Antonio, and it's up to that missionary to 182 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:52,479 Speaker 1: make the church grow. 183 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 3: So you have to preach a certain amount of hours 184 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 3: throughout the day so that people want to listen more. 185 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 3: And the more members you have, the more money you 186 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 3: can bring in and the more power. 187 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: And while more members e call more money, the apostles 188 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: not just looking at the bottom line. If you don't 189 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: belong to one of the important LLEDM families. To advance ranks, 190 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: it's necessary to accomplish big projects, become a star recruiter, 191 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: or perhaps offer certain blessings to the apostle such it 192 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: says the church asentier council considers all of this when 193 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: a member asks to advance to the next. 194 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 3: Level, What have you done for me in these past 195 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 3: fifteen years that now you want to be a deacon? 196 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 4: Right? 197 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 3: And so then the apostle says, this is the amount 198 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 3: of money they've brought in. Hey, they've had at least 199 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 3: two three parties where the apostle is very happy with 200 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 3: this minister for some reason. And it's usually because the 201 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 3: wife already has certain dances that they're a part of, 202 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 3: maybe one girl or two girls in that particular church, 203 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 3: and you start to have trust, you start to gain 204 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 3: trust within that group. 205 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: The dances, those dances Suchill performed in when she was younger, 206 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: whenever just stood there watching. Over are major grooming events 207 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: in LDM. It's forbidden to dance, except when the Apostle 208 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: comes to town and the handmaidens ask children already selected 209 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: and approved to dance for him. The dances act as 210 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: a sort of gateway to future abuses. Finding pretty young 211 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: boys and girls for the Apostle is almost like currency 212 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: in LDM, one that could get you a bigger church, 213 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: or a prime wife, or a special commission with access 214 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: to more cloud. And that's for the men, the people 215 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: who can hold official titles inside the church. For women 216 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: in LDM, becoming a groomer or handmaiden, it's one of 217 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: the few ways they can get a taste of power 218 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: in their otherwise helpless existence inside the church. More on 219 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: that after the break. The group of women inside El Alym, 220 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: known to the Mexican Press as the Vestals, began when 221 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: some Weell took over for our own back in nineteen 222 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: sixty four. They were chosen only from the most loyal families, 223 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: in the beginning from our own sold mistresses, and then 224 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: from Samuel's closest lovers. They had many duties. They tended 225 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: Samuel's house, hit his porn collection and other duty secrets, 226 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: received untirely the all cash envelopes marked for the Servant 227 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: of God, and arranged the most delicate requests for the 228 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: benefit of the royal family. But their main duty was 229 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: to find young, beautiful children for the Apostles to pray on. 230 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: These women are known but never acknowledged throughout el DM. 231 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: Just as Samuel grew the church internationally, he institutionalized the 232 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: role of the vestals and the rape culture within LEDM. 233 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: By the time the Song came to power in twenty fourteen, 234 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: there were groups of women in each city the Apostle 235 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: frequently visited, and they were all working together to find 236 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: young girls and boys to please him, a fact that 237 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: the press would latch onto. When a son was arrested 238 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. 239 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 5: Agents testified that the young girls were recruited from the 240 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 5: Light of the World churches in the southern California area, 241 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 5: including this one in East Los Angeles, always invoking the 242 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 5: apostle status as Jesus on Earth to get the girls 243 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 5: to submit to his sexual whims. 244 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: These women would trade pictures of the young girls on 245 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: their their care, asking one another if they think this 246 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: one or that one would please the apostle more. They 247 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: would send those pictures to the Servant of God who 248 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: would pick and choose his prey like that of a catalog, 249 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: which left quite a trial of evidence. 250 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 4: O Compo requested that Janejo number one send her need 251 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 4: photos of herself because the Servant of God, who is 252 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 4: defendant Corcia, would be really happy. They sent pictures not 253 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 4: wearing any clothes or something similar to that. 254 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: After the child has been chosen, the vestal's job is 255 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: to prepare him or her for the abuse. Often one 256 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: woman is charged with bringing the child to the apostle. 257 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: Another bathes her and dresses her, instructing her how he 258 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: likes to be touched and were. Another will be present 259 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: directly after the abuse to ensure the victim believed that 260 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: what just happened was all a huge blessing, or to 261 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: scare her into silence if that didn't take, and then 262 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: yet another would watch the child and their family in 263 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: the weeks that followed to make sure the so called 264 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: blessing was kept on the wraps. That is exactly what 265 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: happened to Aleandro Gampo, the young girl we heard about 266 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the show was brought to Samoil 267 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: by an older woman in the church when she was 268 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: just eight years old. 269 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 2: At the age of I'm around eight. Alandra is sexually 270 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 2: abused by sam Well and that's just the beginning of 271 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: the abuse. The abuse continues. But even then, when she 272 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 2: is being abused, she is being told this is a blessing. 273 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: This is fred Tira Raja. 274 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 2: I'm a criminal defense lawyer. I'm a former prosecutor, and 275 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 2: I've been doing criminal defense for the last eighteen years 276 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 2: in southern California. 277 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: Mister Tegra Raja came to represent Alondre Campo after Nassan 278 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: was arrested in twenty nineteen. 279 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: Naissan wanted other attorneys that were friends with his lawyer 280 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 2: to represent his Coe defense. 281 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: Alondra currently isn't speaking to the press, so her lawyer 282 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: is the closest we could get. 283 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 2: This is just this very well woiled brainwashing machine that 284 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 2: is taking place for Alandra and all the other you know, 285 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 2: parishioners of Leda. 286 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: The abuse Alandra was objected to when she was eight 287 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: years old at the haunts of Samuel was just a beginning. 288 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: Every time she went back to Mexico or whenever the 289 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: Apostle traveled to Los Angeles, Samuel would ask for Alandra. 290 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 2: She's also being told by the way from her family 291 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 2: and her friends and the church that when the apostle 292 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 2: wants something, it's not a sin, and she's already been 293 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 2: pre conditioned to believe this. 294 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: Like other Elim members we've heard from, Alondra was born 295 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: into the church. Her parents joined the Easter Laid Chapter 296 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: when she was one. 297 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 2: That's all she's known since the age of one. And 298 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 2: Elanda's parents they were very lost, the spiritually lost. Alandra 299 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 2: told me that they, you know, prior to her birth, 300 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 2: they had led a very a lifestyle that partying and drugs, 301 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: and so they were seeking something that to give them 302 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 2: purpose and some meeting. And this is the type of 303 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 2: people that led on targets. They want people who want 304 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 2: to latch onto something to provide meaning in their lives. 305 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: And latched on they did. Alondra, her parents, and her 306 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: four siblings made the church the center of their lives. 307 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: When Alandra and her parents and her family and her 308 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 2: siblings were going to church services, it's seven days a week. 309 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 2: It's not just once a day, it's like five times 310 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 2: a day. So it's all day, every day church, church, church, 311 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 2: Church Church. 312 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: Alonda excelled at life in LDM. A sparkly, natural born leader, 313 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: she quickly became a devout follower, eagerly participating in the 314 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: church's chores, never missing any of the three daily services, 315 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: and becoming a leader of the girl's youth group at 316 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: ldm's Easterly church. 317 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: Her entire life, all day long, she is being told 318 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 2: that this one man is the voice of God, and 319 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: everything this man says is the Gospel truth, and everything 320 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 2: he wants has to be fulfilled, and everything he says 321 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 2: has to be obeyed. And that is hambretage. You're over 322 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 2: and over and over and over again. 323 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: So when Alondra's abuse began and she stole, it's a blessing. 324 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: She accepts this. That's true. 325 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 2: It's obviously painful and shameful. But at the same time 326 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 2: her brain is treating her to leaving. But this is 327 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 2: what God wants and this is holy. 328 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: And the abuse was brutal. While a young teenager, Alondro 329 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: was raped so violently by someonel with a blonde object 330 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: that she became sterile. When he found out, he rejoiced 331 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: that way she would always belong to him and only 332 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: to him. 333 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 2: Obviously, by the time she is in a position where 334 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 2: he is telling her to do something, She's going to 335 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 2: do it. Not only is she being brave this, all 336 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 2: her siblings are being brainwashed this, All her parents are 337 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 2: being brainwashed. This, all her friends are being brainwashed. This. 338 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: And it was not just some wiy Another member of 339 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: the royal family took a shine to Alondra. 340 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: And basically sexually abused her. 341 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: When Aason found out about the abuse, he blamed Alondra, even. 342 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 2: Though Landra had no choice. She's being told by a 343 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 2: member of the Apostles family, you have to do this 344 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 2: for me. What are you gonna do? Say no to? 345 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 2: You know, God's Chosen One's family member. 346 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: As a result, Alondra found herself ostracized from the church 347 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: and it's inner circle for several years. 348 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 2: It became known that he was displeased with her, and 349 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 2: then she was shot. 350 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: Despite this fall from grace, she remained a devout member, 351 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 1: so when someone passed in twenty fourteen and freshly minted 352 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: Apostle Nason called her back, Alondra was relieved to hear 353 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: from the new Chosen One, and Nason had a task 354 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: for her, one that would help her get back into 355 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: the royal families good graces. 356 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 2: He said, listen, this is what I want you to do. 357 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 2: I know you did you know, I know you were 358 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 2: a servant for my father. I want you to do similar. 359 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: Things for me, similar things, but not the same things, 360 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: not exactly. 361 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 2: But now what I want us I want you to 362 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 2: help me find you know, other girls. 363 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: Other girls to replicate and continue the cycle of abuse. 364 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 2: She was being instructed to find other women for Nissan 365 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 2: Joaquin the way she was found for his father. 366 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: We don't know exactly how this conversation went down or 367 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: if Alondra hesitated, but we do know that shortly after 368 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: Nassan became apostle thirty two years old, Alondra was put 369 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: in charge of a youth group in eastaly A, where 370 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: she began grooming younger children. She knew what she was doing. 371 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: It was the formula used on her, the one LEDM 372 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: had perfected since its beginnings. 373 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 2: She would send him pictures of the members and then 374 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: the ones that he found attractive. He told her, these 375 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: are the girls I want you to target. For lack 376 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: of a better. 377 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: Word, Loyel, Alondra would become one of Nassan's chief groomers 378 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: for the five years of his tenure. Before his arrest, 379 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: she helped him abuse younger and younger girls from Ledm's 380 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: churches in La and Alondra was not Nassan's only accomplice. 381 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: More on that after the break. It's June twenty nineteen 382 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,719 Speaker 1: and thirty seven year old Alondre Campo is in her 383 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: East Los Angeles apartment preparing for her boss and pastor, 384 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: Apostle Nasan Juaquin to graze the city with his newson. 385 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: Was coming to Los Angeles for a little rest and 386 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: relaxation after having celebrated his fiftieth birthday in Mexico. Like 387 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: a true king, Alondra had spent the past days preparing, 388 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: making sure everything was just right for his stay, prepping 389 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: the apostles easterly houses for him, and making sure that 390 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: he had the right entertainment to give him the welcome 391 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: he deserved. That morning, she was home, taking special care 392 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: to get her looks just right the way she knew 393 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: he liked them. That's when she heard someone banging at 394 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: the door. 395 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 5: Prosecutors say the Apostle, for all his religious glory, has 396 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 5: always had women in the church who helped to recruit 397 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 5: and groom young girls in their teens for him to 398 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 5: abuse and rape. Prosecutors say Orlandra Ocampo was one of them. 399 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 5: She was arrested with Garcia last year. 400 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: Alondro Ocampo was taking to Linwood's correctional center. On the 401 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: same day, Inna Song was arrested on the term of Alaix. 402 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: She was charged with twenty six felon accounts including forcible 403 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: rape of a miner, forcible sexual penetration, human trafficking by 404 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: procuring a child to engage in a lude act, production 405 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: and distribution of child pornography, and contact with the miner 406 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: for a sexual offense. Her bail was set at twenty 407 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: five million dollars and her arrest was just a tip 408 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: of the iceberg. Even though l DM is untouchable in Mexico, 409 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 1: it turns out the state of California was paying attention, 410 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: and several young women, known as the Jane Does one 411 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: to five have come forward with testimonies of the apostles, 412 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: many abuses, and the complicity of the groomers who made 413 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: it all possible. The victim's testimonies at the pretrial motions 414 00:25:49,040 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: were emotional and brutal. Did you not have compassion for 415 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 1: her when you handed her over, You deceived her. You 416 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: and a son ruined my daughter's life. But there is 417 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 1: a chance, a small chance, that Alondra and some of 418 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: the groomers may find redemption. 419 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 5: And can you understand how she would be able to 420 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 5: recruit other young girls? 421 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 3: I do, I do because I believe she was brainwashed. 422 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 2: I do believe that. 423 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 3: I believe all the girls were because I was. 424 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: On our next episode, we will further explore Alondra's ordeal 425 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: and the role of the apostles accomplices in ledm's institutional 426 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: culture of rape and abuse. 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