WEBVTT - The Current Wars

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<v Speaker 1>It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology? With

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<v Speaker 1>tech Stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hello again, everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff. My name is Chris Polette and

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<v Speaker 1>I am an editor at how stuff works dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Sitting on the opposite side of this here table as

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<v Speaker 1>usual as senior writer Jonathan Strickland. For those about to rock,

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<v Speaker 1>we salute you. I know, I'm all amped up for

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation. Yeah. Today we're going to talk about A

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<v Speaker 1>C and d C electrical currents and what they mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and why do we have them? And who are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh now, the third one we're gonna skip now that

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<v Speaker 1>who are you? As a different band entirely h C

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<v Speaker 1>SID so anyway, he C d C. So we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about direct current that would be d C and alternating

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<v Speaker 1>current that's a C. That's the two main forms of

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<v Speaker 1>electricity that we're familiar with, and they have a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>long history that includes one of the most famous rivalries

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<v Speaker 1>in technology. And we've talked about it before and we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about it again. Yes, as uh as we speak,

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<v Speaker 1>I currently have a picture of Nicola Tesla staring at

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<v Speaker 1>the side of my head. He's on the wall here.

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<v Speaker 1>He wants to make sure you get this right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we also have Edison somewhere in this room. Actually he's

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<v Speaker 1>further back in the other part of the studio, but yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Edison is also here. So Edison and Tesla are the

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<v Speaker 1>two names of the the inventors who were kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the the the face behind these two technologies. Edison, of

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<v Speaker 1>course was a direct current guy, and Tesla was all

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<v Speaker 1>about the alternating current. And they both are argued that

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<v Speaker 1>their approach was the best. And it kind of makes

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<v Speaker 1>sense that Edison did it because there was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of money at stake. Well, and and to some degree

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<v Speaker 1>both of them were right and both of them were wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>and sort of depends on the application. All depends on

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<v Speaker 1>the application and the and the source of power that

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<v Speaker 1>you're using. So, uh, should we talk about the actual power? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>before we do that, I just wanted to make one other,

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<v Speaker 1>one other mention. So those were the men, right, you

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<v Speaker 1>had Edison and Tesla, those were the two men who

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<v Speaker 1>were really at the forefront of this fight. Well there

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<v Speaker 1>was one other, George Westinghouse. Yes, Well that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to say, is that behind these men were

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<v Speaker 1>companies you had you had Westinghouse, who wasn't really a company,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know west We now know of Westinghouse as

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<v Speaker 1>a company. But we had Westinghouse on one side, in

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<v Speaker 1>General Electric on the other. Yeah, and Westinghouse was backing Tesla,

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<v Speaker 1>and General Electric of course was Edison's Companies is backing Edison. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so should we should we start with the the actual

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<v Speaker 1>current and what it does and stuff like that, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we can talk about the people. Let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the current first because that's the easiest. So we know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about circuits, and we talked about batteries. That's

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<v Speaker 1>an easy way to understand direct current. With direct current,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got you have a negative poll and you have

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<v Speaker 1>a positive poll on whatever or your power source is.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's say it's a battery. You've got your your

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<v Speaker 1>negative end and your positive end. The negative end that's

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<v Speaker 1>where all the electrons are. Electrons have a negative charge,

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<v Speaker 1>positive end. There is an absence of electrons. Now electrons,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like charges repel each other and opposite charges

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<v Speaker 1>attract each other. Yes, so those electrons really want to

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<v Speaker 1>get to that positive end because they do not like

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<v Speaker 1>being all crammed up together. So when you put a

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<v Speaker 1>power source into a circuit, that circuit is really a pathway.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a pathway from the negative end to the positive end.

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<v Speaker 1>And the electrons say, yippie, we can go to the

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<v Speaker 1>positive end. And they just run as fast as they can,

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<v Speaker 1>except they don't really run because electrons don't have legs.

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<v Speaker 1>But they go as fast as they can through the pathway.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's say that you decide, you know what, while

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<v Speaker 1>these guys are running really fast, I'd like them to

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<v Speaker 1>do a little work. I want them to light a

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<v Speaker 1>light bulb. So I'm gonna put a light bulb right

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<v Speaker 1>here in the middle of the pathway that they have

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<v Speaker 1>to go through before they can get to the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>The electrons say, don't care, just want to get to

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<v Speaker 1>the positive end. We and they run through that pathway.

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<v Speaker 1>They run through the lightbulb, they light up the light bulb,

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<v Speaker 1>but they keep on going till they hit the positive end. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's direct current. It's all moving in one direction. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>They play that little song too before they and then

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<v Speaker 1>they have to pay royalties to that guy who's suing

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<v Speaker 1>the bugle. Yeah, you haven't heard about that. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>different discussion. We'll we'll leave it off for it for

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<v Speaker 1>this but anyway, so yeah, that's excuse me, that's direct current.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a very simple way of delivering electricity. However, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>simple does not always mean good because simple also means

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<v Speaker 1>that you are limited. And uh, and so now I

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<v Speaker 1>guess we should talk about what alternating current is and

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<v Speaker 1>then we can talk about why there was this rivalry

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<v Speaker 1>between direct and alternating current. Yeah. Well, so Edison believed

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<v Speaker 1>that direct current was the best application of electricity to

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<v Speaker 1>bring power to people's homes, and so all his stuff

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<v Speaker 1>use this technology. But Tesla saw a different way to

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<v Speaker 1>do this, and he decided that alternating current would work better. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>alternating current it's sort of weird because, uh to think

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<v Speaker 1>about because and when you learn about basic circuits um

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<v Speaker 1>in for example, shop class or something like that, where

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<v Speaker 1>you're creating a simple circuits that you've got your battery

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<v Speaker 1>and your light bulb at a switch and you hook

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<v Speaker 1>everything up and you flip the switch and like is on.

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<v Speaker 1>They unflipped the switch or flip it back the other

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<v Speaker 1>way and the light goes off, Like okay, I got it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, exactly what Jonathan just said. It went from

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<v Speaker 1>one end to the other. But alternating current goes change,

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<v Speaker 1>it changes direction within the wires every every so often

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<v Speaker 1>it goes let's just oversimplify, as we are apt or

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<v Speaker 1>are prone to do on this show. Uh, left to

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<v Speaker 1>right and then from right to left. So that's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more difficult to explain. Yeah, it's using it's

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<v Speaker 1>essentially using magnets. Really, it's using magnets too. If you

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<v Speaker 1>were to think of it in the sense of the battery,

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<v Speaker 1>it'd be swapping the the battery ends really really rapidly.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's what it's doing. This through magnets, not through batteries.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh. And by moving this back and forth, you

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<v Speaker 1>are changing the flow of electricity through those wires several

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<v Speaker 1>times a second. Um, I believe. Let's see, in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, I believe that's sixty times a second, and

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<v Speaker 1>in Europe I think it's fifty. I believe that is correct,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why why you have to have various adapters

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<v Speaker 1>when you move between the United States and Europe. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know sort of thing happens in other nations as well. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I was correct, um, And we do have an article

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<v Speaker 1>on the website about how electricity works that goes into

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<v Speaker 1>alternating current and direct current. I do recommend you check

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<v Speaker 1>that out because it'll have a lot some helpful information.

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<v Speaker 1>We also have information on other elements will be talking

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<v Speaker 1>about shortly, like transformers, but we'll get into that in

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<v Speaker 1>a second. So, yeah, and the alternating current, the current

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<v Speaker 1>reverses sixty times per second in the US or fifty

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<v Speaker 1>times in a second in Europe. And that's what you

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<v Speaker 1>get out of the wall socket. And you might say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>why would you want to to have the alternating current

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<v Speaker 1>moving back and forth like that? Well, on its on

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<v Speaker 1>on the face of it, if you were just saying

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<v Speaker 1>direct current versus alternating current, and you're just looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the way that they are providing power to whatever load

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<v Speaker 1>you've put on the pathway, like in my example it

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<v Speaker 1>was that light bulb. If that's all you're looking at,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no real huge advantage of direct current over alternating

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<v Speaker 1>current or vice versa. They both are providing power to

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<v Speaker 1>the load you're talking about it It only comes when

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<v Speaker 1>it only gets down to when you are talking about

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<v Speaker 1>generating power and delivering that power to another location. That's

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<v Speaker 1>when you start looking at uh the advantages of alternating

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<v Speaker 1>current over direct current, and that's the the that was

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<v Speaker 1>the heart of the issue between Tesla and Edison. Edison

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of money invested in direct current, and

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<v Speaker 1>he had a lot of patents uh that were directly

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<v Speaker 1>involved with direct current, and he was drawing royalties from

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<v Speaker 1>those patents. Because you had power stations that would be

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<v Speaker 1>using direct current, they'd have to pay a fee to Edison.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was within his financial interest to really promote

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<v Speaker 1>direct current. And Edison was a master promoter. That was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things he was amazing at along with

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he was a brilliant inventor as well, but

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<v Speaker 1>he was also a great marketer. Tesla not as much,

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<v Speaker 1>but Tesla felt that he was in the right. We

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<v Speaker 1>get that argument a lot through the whole Tesla story. Yeah, Tesla.

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<v Speaker 1>Tesla though, like to do demonstrations with electricity that showed

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<v Speaker 1>him basically holding onto a source of electricity and there

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<v Speaker 1>were sparks and things, and it it freaked a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people out. But Edison had had a particular demonstration. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we will have to talk about that really freaks people

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<v Speaker 1>up to I'm hoping that we can keep that discussion

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<v Speaker 1>to a minimum because that still turns my stomach. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>so we should we should continue talking about the delivering power.

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<v Speaker 1>So um yeah, the for edison to use the direct

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<v Speaker 1>current doesn't doesn't really travel well, or didn't back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day. They have found ways to to provide to

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<v Speaker 1>help it travel long distances better now, But at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>you had to have local power stations, very local power stations,

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<v Speaker 1>like within a mile or two of wherever it was

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<v Speaker 1>you were delivering power, and you could you had to

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<v Speaker 1>deliver the same amount of power that your load was

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<v Speaker 1>going to require. Um. In other words, you can't change

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<v Speaker 1>the voltage easily on a direct current system. And the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why that's important is let's say that you have

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<v Speaker 1>a h you have you have a device, or you

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<v Speaker 1>have you know, you have some sort of electronic load

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to require oh um a certain number of

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<v Speaker 1>volts will say a hundred volts, and that means that

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<v Speaker 1>for a direct current uh generator, you would have to

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<v Speaker 1>generate a hundred volts actually be around a hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>ten because you do lose some electricity. There's a leakage

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<v Speaker 1>issue with direct current that that that gets worse over distance.

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<v Speaker 1>So you would have to um, you would have to

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<v Speaker 1>actually have a generator that created the same voltage as

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<v Speaker 1>what you were going to consume. And if you had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of different demands on this electricity, like you

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of different things that use different voltage,

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<v Speaker 1>then you would have to have a different generator for

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<v Speaker 1>each kind. And that's not very efficient either. And uh

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<v Speaker 1>and because this these two problems, the fact that you

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<v Speaker 1>could not send power over really long distances and you

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't change the voltage easily, there were some disadvantages to this,

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<v Speaker 1>and the biggest one is probably the distance thing, because

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<v Speaker 1>it meant that you had to build generators all over

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<v Speaker 1>the place if you wanted to distribute electricity over a region.

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<v Speaker 1>And this got problematic, particularly when you go out to

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<v Speaker 1>rural areas, because are you going to build a generator

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<v Speaker 1>for every couple of houses that are miles and miles

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<v Speaker 1>and miles Apart that that's not very cost effective for

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<v Speaker 1>the people who live there, why would they even adopt

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<v Speaker 1>electricity if that? If it meant essentially that they had

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<v Speaker 1>to have their own generator right there, and and so

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<v Speaker 1>alternating current got around this, and I guess I guess

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<v Speaker 1>to really understand this you kind of have to talk about, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>current versus voltage. So because voltage is is really and

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<v Speaker 1>this is sort of weird to think about, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>unit of electrical pressure rather than current, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>number of electrons. Really, so you you measure we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about current in terms of amps, and amps really refers

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<v Speaker 1>to the number of electrons that are moving through that

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<v Speaker 1>that circuit. Voltage, like you said, is more like pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the amount of power you've put behind those electrons.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you had high voltage low low amps, then

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<v Speaker 1>you would have relatively few electrons moving with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of power. If you had low voltage high amps, you

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of electrons moving at low power um

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<v Speaker 1>And if high voltages travel further, it's because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you've put a huge amount of energy into this this current,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's going to push the electrons further than it

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<v Speaker 1>would with less leakage than it would if you had

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<v Speaker 1>a low voltage. See now I'm thinking of a different

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<v Speaker 1>song by the same band you quoted initially. Voltage. So

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<v Speaker 1>in other words, in other words, let's say that you've

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<v Speaker 1>got imagine you have a pipe in front of you

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a you've got a bowling ball that will

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<v Speaker 1>fit inside this pipe. So that's a pretty big diameter, right,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter. It doesn't matter the reason why I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say that let's say that you get a little

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<v Speaker 1>kid to give that bowling ball a push. Well, that

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<v Speaker 1>bowling ball is only gonna go so far. And then

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<v Speaker 1>let's say you get a guy in the World's Strongest

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<v Speaker 1>Man competition to get come along and give it a

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<v Speaker 1>push as hard as he can. That ball is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go much further. Well with direct current because the generator

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<v Speaker 1>had to be the same voltage as whatever the this

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<v Speaker 1>that the actual receiving um appliance or or load was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be. You couldn't crease that voltage to make

0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:04.920
<v Speaker 1>the current go further because if you did, then your

0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:07.960
<v Speaker 1>loads wouldn't work anymore. They be overloaded because you know,

0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:11.280
<v Speaker 1>the voltage would be way too high. But alternating current,

0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:15.880
<v Speaker 1>because those electrons change direction, they create something else that

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<v Speaker 1>allows you to boost and then reduce the voltage along

0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:24.960
<v Speaker 1>power lines. So the power that comes out of a

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<v Speaker 1>power generator, uh, the electricity that comes out of a

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<v Speaker 1>generator plant doesn't necessarily have to be the same voltage

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<v Speaker 1>as what's actually traveling through the power lines on the

0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:37.520
<v Speaker 1>power grid. Now you need something to step up the voltage,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the transformer. And they are indeed more than

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<v Speaker 1>meets the eye, but they are not robots that change

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<v Speaker 1>into other forms. A transformer, UH is a way to

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<v Speaker 1>change from one voltage to another, and it's actually at

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<v Speaker 1>its heart, a transformer is incredibly simple and it all

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<v Speaker 1>has to do with the relationship between electricity and magnetism,

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<v Speaker 1>which we have talked about many, many times on this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>but in general, if you've forgotten, if you if you

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<v Speaker 1>have if you're just tuting it. Yeah, if you have

0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:17.320
<v Speaker 1>current moving through a wire and you and that will

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<v Speaker 1>generate a magnetic field, particularly if you're alternating that current,

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<v Speaker 1>it creates a an alternating magnetic field. All right, So

0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:28.720
<v Speaker 1>the currents reversing back and forth through this line that's

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<v Speaker 1>creating this this uh magnetic field that itself is changing

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<v Speaker 1>over and over again. So let's say you've got a

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<v Speaker 1>coil of wire next to an alternating magnetic field, of

0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:43.720
<v Speaker 1>magnetic field that's influx, it's changing over and over again. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if the magnetic field is changing and the coil of

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<v Speaker 1>wire is close enough, that's going to induce electrons to

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<v Speaker 1>flow through the wire. All right, So using this we

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<v Speaker 1>can make alternating current and create a and create a transformer.

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<v Speaker 1>You have one coil of wire, that's your primary coil.

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<v Speaker 1>You're running electricity through this coil and it's an alternating current,

0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:10.200
<v Speaker 1>so it's going back and forth, reversing direction through through

0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:14.280
<v Speaker 1>this coil. You put a secondary coil near the primary coil.

0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:18.600
<v Speaker 1>The magnetic field generated by the primary coil will induce

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<v Speaker 1>electricity in the secondary coil. And here's the really cool thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The number of coils in the primary coil versus the

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<v Speaker 1>number of coils in the secondary coil will determine how

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<v Speaker 1>the voltage changes. So it's very simple. Yeah, let's say

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<v Speaker 1>that you have one coil in your primary coil, so

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<v Speaker 1>you just do one turn and that's it, and you

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<v Speaker 1>have ten coils in your secondary coil. The amount of

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<v Speaker 1>voltage in the secondary coil that's generated from that magnetic

0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:51.360
<v Speaker 1>magnetic flux will be ten times as strong as the

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<v Speaker 1>primary coil, so you have stepped up the voltage. So

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<v Speaker 1>what you do is at your power generation plant, you

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<v Speaker 1>have a primary coil that is a certain number of coils,

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<v Speaker 1>and your secondary coil has way more coils, and the

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<v Speaker 1>ratio there will determine how much the voltage changes. You

0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:14.000
<v Speaker 1>then transmit that electricity through wires to wherever, you know,

0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:17.920
<v Speaker 1>through to a residential neighborhood, let's say, Well, as the

0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:22.879
<v Speaker 1>the electricity travels there, once it hits the the the

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<v Speaker 1>the power lines, the power poles that have the connection

0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:29.840
<v Speaker 1>to your house, there's a transformer on those those uh,

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<v Speaker 1>essentially their telephone poles. That's what we think of them as, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they have they have transformers too. Now in that case,

0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:41.399
<v Speaker 1>they their primary coils have more coils than the secondary coils,

0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:44.360
<v Speaker 1>so the voltage is stepped down. And that means that

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<v Speaker 1>even though the voltage in the power line that's coming

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<v Speaker 1>down the street is really really high, way higher than

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<v Speaker 1>what you need in your house, in fact, so high

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<v Speaker 1>that it's you know, incredibly deadly. Um, once it goes

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<v Speaker 1>through that transformer and goes to your house, it's going

0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:03.240
<v Speaker 1>to be at the right voltage for your home. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and we usually in the United States that would be

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred and twenty volts. Because remember we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>it reversing sixty times a second, Well, you have to

0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:12.879
<v Speaker 1>add the two sixties, right, the sixty positives and the

0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:16.000
<v Speaker 1>sixty negatives for lack of a better term, add those

0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:18.879
<v Speaker 1>together and it's not like sixty plus negative sixty at

0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:22.359
<v Speaker 1>sixty plus sixty hundred twenty volts. And that solves the

0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:24.920
<v Speaker 1>problem that you were talking about earlier with the need

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<v Speaker 1>for the generating Russian to be to match exactly the

0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:34.359
<v Speaker 1>the the load at the other end, right, And it

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<v Speaker 1>it solves the problem of the distance issue too, because

0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:40.240
<v Speaker 1>you've you have upped the voltage so high that it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to transmit over a much greater distance than direct

0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:47.000
<v Speaker 1>current will and so um, you've just solved that issue

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<v Speaker 1>of how do you deliver electricity in an efficient way

0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:52.240
<v Speaker 1>so you don't have to build generators every couple of

0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:57.520
<v Speaker 1>miles and uh, Tesla and Westinghouse I thought this was

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<v Speaker 1>a brilliant idea. Edison of course, did not like it

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<v Speaker 1>because it did not it was it was it was

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<v Speaker 1>a competing standard to his own, and it was going

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<v Speaker 1>to mean that he was going to be out some

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<v Speaker 1>serious dough. So there there became a kind of a

0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:17.520
<v Speaker 1>series of one upmanship demonstrations across well mostly the northeast,

0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:21.800
<v Speaker 1>but uh, it was an attempt to to make to

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<v Speaker 1>to try and have one standard come out the supreme

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<v Speaker 1>leader in electricity. Yeah. We uh, we've talked about these things,

0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:33.600
<v Speaker 1>not in then and then not terribly distant past. At

0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:36.680
<v Speaker 1>this point when we're recording is um and I believe

0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:38.439
<v Speaker 1>I revealed at one point that I had read the

0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:43.879
<v Speaker 1>book Empires of Light by Jill Jonas Um and I'm

0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:47.199
<v Speaker 1>probably still mispronouncing her last name, UM, which is about

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<v Speaker 1>this about the current wars, and uh, it paints a

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<v Speaker 1>really unflattering picture of Edison really when you learn a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more about it. Um. Now, Tesla was sort of

0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:04.879
<v Speaker 1>a eccentric. He was an eccentric. He also kind of

0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:08.520
<v Speaker 1>liked to live the high life. Uh. He liked expensive

0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:12.560
<v Speaker 1>stuff and eccentric dandy who got progressively crazier as he

0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:16.440
<v Speaker 1>got older. I wouldn't say crazy, No, I would still

0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:20.160
<v Speaker 1>be alive in some capacity. Um. Now I'm a crazy one.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, my co host is joining Tesla. No there,

0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:27.399
<v Speaker 1>it's it's fun to just, you know, make those jokes. Uh. No,

0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:31.120
<v Speaker 1>he uh, he wasn't really in the business of He

0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:33.040
<v Speaker 1>he liked to invent stuff and he actually at one

0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:36.880
<v Speaker 1>point worked for Edison. Um. They didn't always see eye

0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:41.320
<v Speaker 1>to eye. Before all this happened. Um and uh, I

0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:44.160
<v Speaker 1>think Tesla sort of felt like, based on what I've read,

0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Tesla sort of felt like he was underappreciated and wanted

0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:49.280
<v Speaker 1>to strike out on his own. And this was one

0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:51.080
<v Speaker 1>of the things, one of the many, many things. Of course,

0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:53.320
<v Speaker 1>we talked about radio and how he worked on that.

0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:56.240
<v Speaker 1>He's um, he got involved with a lot of different

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of things. And I've also read that that in general,

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<v Speaker 1>and this may be an over generalization, but in general

0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:07.520
<v Speaker 1>that Edison took a very experimental approach to learning things,

0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:10.720
<v Speaker 1>Like he he was all about doing something and if

0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:14.600
<v Speaker 1>that worked, then that's great, solve that problem. Whereas Tesla

0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:18.120
<v Speaker 1>was more about understanding and thinking things through and then

0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:22.399
<v Speaker 1>designing stuff that builds on that knowledge. So you know,

0:21:23.720 --> 0:21:27.639
<v Speaker 1>it's two different approaches. And I've even seen it referred

0:21:27.680 --> 0:21:30.800
<v Speaker 1>to as Essen's approach being more of a brute force approach,

0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:33.440
<v Speaker 1>like you know, you try something and if it doesn't work, well,

0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:35.280
<v Speaker 1>that's too bad. You go on and you do something else,

0:21:35.680 --> 0:21:38.240
<v Speaker 1>and whereas Tesla was more of an architect, someone who

0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:42.880
<v Speaker 1>would think things through before actually committing to action. Although

0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:46.760
<v Speaker 1>one would argue based upon some of Tesla's later works

0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:50.840
<v Speaker 1>that that was not always true. So we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the one upsmanship, the battles between these two well Edison

0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:57.720
<v Speaker 1>Edison was really UM did a lot of his own

0:21:57.720 --> 0:22:01.359
<v Speaker 1>promotion UM and Tesla UH did a lot of his

0:22:01.359 --> 0:22:04.920
<v Speaker 1>own personal promotion. UM. So they were really kind of

0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:07.159
<v Speaker 1>different people. I mean Thatison was really working on his

0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:11.800
<v Speaker 1>company and building that up UM and Tesla licensed his

0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:17.320
<v Speaker 1>patents to UH George Westinghouses company. Westinghouse. He would also

0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:19.200
<v Speaker 1>be sort of an interesting person to talk about with

0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:21.000
<v Speaker 1>on his own show, if we ever get around to that.

0:22:21.040 --> 0:22:24.880
<v Speaker 1>But he invented a railroad break that was very very popular.

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<v Speaker 1>He made a lot of money doing this, and he

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<v Speaker 1>saw a way too. He started getting into the electric

0:22:29.240 --> 0:22:32.680
<v Speaker 1>game two. He saw himself as a somebody who could

0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:36.000
<v Speaker 1>actually take on Edison and some of the others who

0:22:36.000 --> 0:22:39.280
<v Speaker 1>were involved in this. They weren't the only two um

0:22:39.320 --> 0:22:40.840
<v Speaker 1>because this was you know, it's like a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like UH computers and so many other things, the internet,

0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:48.480
<v Speaker 1>uh phones. You know, at that point when when Edison

0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:51.160
<v Speaker 1>and Tesla were really doing this, they were all there

0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:54.000
<v Speaker 1>were many many inventors working on solutions to these problems.

0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:56.919
<v Speaker 1>How were you going to wire up homes, building the

0:22:57.000 --> 0:23:01.240
<v Speaker 1>infrastructure and that kind of stuff. So Westinghouse licensed Tesla's

0:23:01.240 --> 0:23:04.360
<v Speaker 1>patents and began building equipment. Um, and they've been They

0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:07.320
<v Speaker 1>began competing for different projects, such as the Colombian Next

0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Exhibition in Chicago, which was the World's Fair, and who

0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:14.960
<v Speaker 1>was going to light the World's Fear because they really

0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:17.240
<v Speaker 1>wanted to do this thing right. They wanted light bulbs

0:23:17.320 --> 0:23:20.160
<v Speaker 1>everywhere because really, I mean there were very few people

0:23:20.160 --> 0:23:23.280
<v Speaker 1>who had their homes wired for light. Um, this was

0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:26.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna be really cool, and they were. When they succeeded

0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:31.360
<v Speaker 1>in doing so. Um, that was a huge, huge thing

0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:33.600
<v Speaker 1>because people wanted to see it at night when everything

0:23:33.640 --> 0:23:36.000
<v Speaker 1>was lit up with electric power. Yeah, that was in

0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:41.640
<v Speaker 1>So while they are arguing over who gets to light

0:23:41.720 --> 0:23:45.679
<v Speaker 1>up the World's Fair, Dr H. H. Holmes is creating

0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:48.720
<v Speaker 1>his his Reign of Terror as America one of America's

0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:52.119
<v Speaker 1>first serial killers. Yeah, just like i'd throw that out there. Stuff.

0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:55.280
<v Speaker 1>You should know did a show about him? Really? Yeah.

0:23:55.720 --> 0:23:57.960
<v Speaker 1>There's actually a fantastic book called The Devil in the

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<v Speaker 1>White City that is the story both about H. H.

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<v Speaker 1>Holmes and his activities and the the preparation and execution

0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:12.040
<v Speaker 1>of the World's Fair. And frankly, the World's Fair sections

0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:15.560
<v Speaker 1>in that book were to me ten times more interesting

0:24:15.960 --> 0:24:19.119
<v Speaker 1>than the story about the one of America's first serial killers.

0:24:19.560 --> 0:24:21.480
<v Speaker 1>And it's kind of but it was. It's because you

0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:25.000
<v Speaker 1>have these incredible personalities that were all mixing to make

0:24:25.040 --> 0:24:27.680
<v Speaker 1>the World's Fair, and Tesla and Edison were two of them,

0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:33.200
<v Speaker 1>and ultimately Tesla one and that was a bitter fight. Yeah,

0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:35.879
<v Speaker 1>and UH and Edison. You know, he was not above

0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:42.920
<v Speaker 1>some pretty outrageous displays to try and win people over

0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:45.760
<v Speaker 1>to his side. One of his arguments was that because

0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:49.440
<v Speaker 1>alternating current had these transformers, and because alternating current would

0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:54.240
<v Speaker 1>UH would transform a low voltage into an incredibly high

0:24:54.320 --> 0:25:00.679
<v Speaker 1>voltage flow of electricity, he argued that all turning current

0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:05.600
<v Speaker 1>was was inherently dangerous and direct current was safe or

0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:10.240
<v Speaker 1>considerably safer. Exactly so he would demonstrate this, and this

0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:14.000
<v Speaker 1>is absolutely horrifying to anyone who's an animal lover, by

0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:19.720
<v Speaker 1>holding UH a public hearing and then using alternating current

0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:25.240
<v Speaker 1>to electrocute as in, to kill animals with electricity. UH.

0:25:25.720 --> 0:25:28.960
<v Speaker 1>The the probably the most famous example of which was

0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:34.959
<v Speaker 1>an elephant named Topsy. Yeah, Harold Brown sort of a

0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:38.720
<v Speaker 1>bit player in this whole drama. Um was a guy

0:25:38.800 --> 0:25:41.439
<v Speaker 1>that from what I can tell, uh and Empires of

0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Light sort of came out of nowhere. He wasn't really

0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:47.720
<v Speaker 1>an employee of of the Edison company, but um. He

0:25:47.840 --> 0:25:53.760
<v Speaker 1>was also of the belief that alternating current was extremely dangerous.

0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:59.600
<v Speaker 1>And Edison saw a way to promote the idea that

0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:02.440
<v Speaker 1>a senating current was dangerous and direct current was safer,

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<v Speaker 1>um by using Brown's experiments. And he you know, basically

0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:11.720
<v Speaker 1>experimented on on animals and showing that, uh, the amount

0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 1>of current of alternating current would take to kill somebody

0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:18.560
<v Speaker 1>was considerably less than the amount of direct current it

0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:21.919
<v Speaker 1>would take to kill somebody. Um. And they did experiments

0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:25.560
<v Speaker 1>on animals both and and if I'm not mistaken, in

0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:28.840
<v Speaker 1>private and in public the public demonstrations, you know, they

0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:33.440
<v Speaker 1>they electrocuted dogs and other animals, including Topsy the elephant.

0:26:34.680 --> 0:26:39.040
<v Speaker 1>And then they decided to uh promote a new way

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<v Speaker 1>of uh dispensing justice. They built the electric chair. Look

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<v Speaker 1>how dangerous alternating current is. They can use it to

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<v Speaker 1>put criminals to death. And they promoted this as a

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<v Speaker 1>way to you know, for one thing, they were uh

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<v Speaker 1>theoretically providing a public service, right, you know, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>new way to to execute convicted criminals. But also it

0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:10.359
<v Speaker 1>promoted their ends by saying, look, how dangerous alternating current is,

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<v Speaker 1>so we should all invest in direct current. Ultimately, that

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:18.119
<v Speaker 1>argument did not win, and so alternating current because it

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<v Speaker 1>just made more sense financially as far as a way

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<v Speaker 1>of distributing electricity across wide areas. Uh, that's what went out,

0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and it makes sense in that use case. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like direct current went away. It's not like

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<v Speaker 1>we don't use direct current. And lots of different things

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Yep. And in fact, um, depending on the device,

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 1>you may be using both. You know, they're um, some

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<v Speaker 1>of the adapters that you plug in for portable electronics

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:51.560
<v Speaker 1>have a DC output even though they're taking their you know, yeah, exactly,

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:55.280
<v Speaker 1>you're you're taking alternating current from the wall and then

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:58.119
<v Speaker 1>the converter converts it from alternating current to direct current

0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:02.400
<v Speaker 1>before it delivers the elector to whatever device you're using. Yes, yeah,

0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:04.320
<v Speaker 1>there there are plenty of examples of that. And of

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<v Speaker 1>course if you have anything with a battery in it,

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<v Speaker 1>well that's you know, a battery, Like we said, in

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 1>the very first example, that's direct current unless you are

0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:14.720
<v Speaker 1>having some weird way of swapping the batteries poles over

0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:18.120
<v Speaker 1>and over again, which I can't imagine you're doing that.

0:28:18.359 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Um then quick, yeah, yeah, that's a direct current. So

0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:26.080
<v Speaker 1>so we still use both. And there are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of reasons why you would want to use direct current

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:32.159
<v Speaker 1>for especially for anything that's like, you know, not connected

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<v Speaker 1>to a power source, or not a power source but

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:38.320
<v Speaker 1>a power plant. Um So there's we still use direct

0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 1>current and plenty of applications. But when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>delivering electricity across huge distances, alternating currents the way to go.

0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 1>It makes perfect sense. By the way, have you ever

0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 1>seen a transformer blow? No, but I've heard them. I've

0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:54.520
<v Speaker 1>seen it a few times. It is a pretty spectacular

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:58.760
<v Speaker 1>and incredibly startling thing to see. Yeah. Yeah, every once

0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 1>in a while you will hear one, uh you know,

0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 1>blowout in your neighborhood or actually there was one here

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<v Speaker 1>in the Atlanta area just yesterday that started a brush

0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 1>fire when it when it exploded. Yeah, you usually see

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of sparks, and there's normally a very loud bang. Actually,

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 1>there's always gonna be off really loud bang and it's Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the first time it happened. I thought someone

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<v Speaker 1>fired a shotgun off next to the car I was in,

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 1>because it was we were going down downtown Atlanta in

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<v Speaker 1>a thunderstorm and a power surge caused the transformer to

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 1>overlow and overload rather and it uh and it blew

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:35.880
<v Speaker 1>out the transformer. Uh. Yeah. And and transformers are a

0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 1>little more complicated than just two coils of wire. That's

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:43.560
<v Speaker 1>just the basic that's the that's the core of a transformer. Yeah,

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 1>we wanted you to understand the concept. You can. There's

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:48.920
<v Speaker 1>there's plenty of reading to be done, believe me, on

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:51.560
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0:29:51.560 --> 0:29:54.719
<v Speaker 1>and transformers. Uh. They are They are very helpful. There

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of really cool illustrations, and I think

0:29:58.080 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 1>you'll find it interesting. Um. It definitely helped me understand

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<v Speaker 1>a little better about the subject before we came in

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<v Speaker 1>here today. Yeah. Yeah. And and although we were joking

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<v Speaker 1>about the the toy slash movie transformers, we have articles

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 1>about that too. So if you are highly entertaining, if

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<v Speaker 1>think the one that's about the robots is called what

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<v Speaker 1>are Real Transformers? Yeah? Exactly, Uh so, well, so yeah,

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