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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Congratulations Buck. Do you know who won the

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Speaker 1: college football National Championship last night?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Because I saw famed you Michigan alum Laura Travis celebrating it.

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Speaker 1: So Yes, the Michigan Wolverines, for the first time since

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Speaker 1: nineteen forty eight, are the undisputed national champions.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations to them.

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Speaker 1: Had an awesome time in Houston watching that game last night.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations to Washington also had a fabulous season, Michigan finishes

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Speaker 1: fifteen to zero, and it was an amazing scene in

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Speaker 1: Buck the case that we are now sitting six days

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Speaker 1: away from the Iowa Caucuses, and we got a lot

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Speaker 3: Jimmy Kimmel versus Aaron Rodgers is a fun one.

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Speaker 1: We've got the Chicago mayor saying, basically, it's a racist

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Speaker 1: for Governor Greg Abbott to be sending immigrants, illegal immigration,

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Speaker 1: fact that he's had eight boosters and still wears a

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Speaker 1: can't figure out how pro Palestinian protesters shutting down roads everywhere.

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Speaker 1: But we start with the six days until Iowa. It appears,

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Speaker 1: Buck that it is going to be incredibly cold, even

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Speaker 1: it could potentially be an issue. There are I think

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Speaker 3: Here's cut four.

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Speaker 1: I think there's any point in caucusing right now.

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Speaker 2: Trump is going to be that nomin There's just some point.

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Speaker 5: So do you like Hayley or DESANTISI do you think

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Speaker 2: Out to caucus for one.

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Speaker 4: Of them and the hopes that they might gain.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean I am not a fan of either

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Speaker 1: Two, I think where you are slim pickens in the

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Speaker 1: drama surrounding potentially who's gonna win Iowa is complacent. Complacency

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, go ahead, all right. So late August is

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Speaker 1: And I thought to myself, this is very interesting that

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Speaker 1: Don't underestimate where this could go. And then Buck, Michelle Obama,

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Speaker 3: We have this audio.

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Speaker 5: Listen the things that keep me up because you don't

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Speaker 5: I am terrified about what could possibly happen because our

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Speaker 1: All Right, Buck, if you were starting a shadow campaign

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Speaker 1: for Michelle Obama to be the nominee in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, they are laying the grist for Michelle

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Speaker 2: Bait and switch. I love the theory. No chance not

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Speaker 3: It's gonna work this time.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I've been saying Michelle Obama for a little while

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Speaker 1: And the big problem is you got to get past

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Speaker 1: They believe, there's just no way this is going to happen.

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Speaker 2: We have a a an incumbent president who I no

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Speaker 2: one knows better than you, and I do that Biden

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Speaker 1: Work job, that it's worked incumbent based on the numbers

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Speaker 2: But what is there to make people believe right now

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Speaker 2: Maybe they're all you know, that's like the secret. First

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Speaker 2: Like first thing about secret presidential switches, you never talk

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Speaker 2: That's a big problem if someone is supposed to run

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Speaker 3: Is and she it's you still have to do it.

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Speaker 2: You still got to go live in the White House,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think there's some things you have to do.

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Speaker 2: So anyway that that that for me is the first

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Speaker 3: That's why it has to be Michelle Obama, but.

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Speaker 2: I mean the the the notion of this clay. It

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Speaker 1: It's crazy to have they have no principles. Here's the

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Speaker 1: But I think you're going to see her name and

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Speaker 2: You know, take Acman down a peg, so to speak,

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Speaker 2: given what's going on here. So now what he's doing

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Speaker 2: is he's saying, oh, okay, I'm turning my research team

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Speaker 2: on MIT faculty and MIT graduate programs and work. Because

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Speaker 2: now with AI, this is the thing I ever has

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Speaker 2: to understand. It used to be a painstaking and really

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Speaker 2: almost really an impossible process to be able to find

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Speaker 2: plagiarism unless it was egregious and obvious, right, you know,

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Speaker 2: so when you know, if the professor of Harvard I remember,

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Speaker 2: rather the the president of Harvard writes, you know, what

448
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Speaker 2: a tangled web we weave when first we you know,

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Speaker 2: people would be like, wait a second, like I've heard

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Speaker 2: that's something you just came up with that you just

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Speaker 2: came up with that. But now with AI, you can

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Speaker 2: find this stuff very easily.

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Speaker 1: Basically for people who don't understand how it would work,

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Speaker 1: you can cut and paste an entire article, plug it

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Speaker 1: into AI and ask AI to search and see if

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Speaker 1: they're similar language. Right, That's basically what they're doing in

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Speaker 1: many respects.

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Speaker 3: And here's the truth of now.

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Speaker 2: Remember college campuses are roughly certainly at the at the

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Speaker 2: elited mission school, so that doesn't mean the student body

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Speaker 2: is actually elite for a whole bunch of reasons. But

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Speaker 2: at the places that take a smaller and smaller percentage

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Speaker 2: of applicants, the academics there are almost all very left wing.

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Speaker 2: I mean ninety seven, ninety eight, ninety nine percent at

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Speaker 2: some of these places. You're not allowed to be a conservative,

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Speaker 2: knowledge be a Republican. So it's really, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: sort of turned into open season on plagiarism finding here

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Speaker 2: among the academy and the staffs at these universities. In

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Speaker 2: Claywood's I think, I think that people are going to

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Speaker 2: realize if they push this issue that higher, you know,

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Speaker 2: the highest regions of education, because there's all this pressure

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Speaker 2: to publish all the time, and every thought they could

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Speaker 2: get away with it. It is full of plagiarism at

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Speaker 2: the top echelon. I think you'll see that there's plagiarism

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Speaker 2: all over the place from tenured professors at the elite schools,

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Speaker 2: and you might see a particular concentration of it among

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Speaker 2: DEI hires.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that's true. It's also going to show

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Speaker 1: you how worthless most of these articles really are, and

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Speaker 1: that's maybe what stands out the most. It's very hard

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Speaker 1: in many of these disciplines to actually have an original

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Speaker 1: thought because a lot of these people are just they're

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Speaker 1: going to get in line and they're just gonna pair

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Speaker 1: it whatever they need to say to be able to

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Speaker 1: get the next degree. And so I think you're right.

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Speaker 1: I think what you're going to see is there's very

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Speaker 1: little original thought and the vast majority of these papers,

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Speaker 1: I mean this is I do think we're circling back on.

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Speaker 1: In her entire academic career, Claudine Gay published eleven articles.

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Speaker 1: Think about that for a minute. This woman has been

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Speaker 1: working in academia for her entire life. How is Claude

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Speaker 1: Gay like forty five fifty years old, I mean something

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Speaker 1: in that neighborhood, I would guess, And she hasn't ever

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Speaker 1: even published a book, eleven articles. I mean when I

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Speaker 1: saw that and that she was the president of Harvard,

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Speaker 1: my jaw dropped. I obviously don't know the resume of

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Speaker 1: very many professors in general, but to have never even

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Speaker 1: written a single book and have risen to the level

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Speaker 1: where you are the president of Harvard, her scholarship, just

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Speaker 1: the level of work that she had done was almost

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Speaker 1: non existent, and yet she had ascended to the most

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Speaker 1: prestigious position in all of American academia. And I think

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Speaker 1: this is where for Bill Ackman's a good example Buck.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of people out there that

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Speaker 1: have had success in life, and they just work so

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Speaker 1: much on their own life and then they got their

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Speaker 1: families and everything else, that they really don't pull their

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Speaker 1: head up and will around and see what the world

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Speaker 1: has created. And I think there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: people inside of business, as founders and whatnot, who are

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Speaker 1: so maniacally focused on growing their business that they're not

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Speaker 1: paying attention to what their HR department is doing, are

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Speaker 1: what the larger corporate bureaucracy inside of their businesses are doing.

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Speaker 3: And I think they've been stunned.

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Speaker 1: And this October seventh response has been eye opening for

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Speaker 1: them where they suddenly asked the question how do we

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Speaker 1: get here? And they're recognizing the paucity of achievement of

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Speaker 1: many people that have attained the highest etional on jobs

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Speaker 1: in this country. And I would say, this is not

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Speaker 1: just academia. Look at the Biden White House. We'll get

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris. I think a lot of people are saying,

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Speaker 1: what has she actually ever done that would get her

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Speaker 1: to the vice presidency?

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Speaker 2: This is also where and this is going to be

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Speaker 2: an ongoing conversation, and it's one that's going to get

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Speaker 2: people very emotional. It's going to be very tense, but

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Speaker 2: it is going to happen. And I think it is

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Speaker 2: unnecessary for it to happen. In a post Supreme Court

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Speaker 2: striking down affirmative action and admissions America.

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Speaker 3: It is now more.

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Speaker 2: I would say more appropriate, may not be the right term,

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Speaker 2: but maybe more necessary than ever to ask questions about, Okay, so,

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Speaker 2: where did we decide that for superficial diversity of skin color, ethnicity,

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Speaker 2: gender identity, whatever it may be. Where did we decide

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Speaker 2: that we were going to change standards in a way

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Speaker 2: that might have really negative You know, it's one thing

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Speaker 2: to be the president of Harvard and not be good

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Speaker 2: at your job. It's another thing to be a brain

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Speaker 2: surgeon or to be a pilot on an airplane.

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Speaker 3: And people are.

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Speaker 2: Asking the very understandable question right now. Hold on a second,

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Speaker 2: if we were taking people, you know, if you had

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Speaker 2: a ninety percent chance of getting into Harvard with a

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Speaker 2: certain grade point average and a certain SAT score if

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Speaker 2: you were black or Hispanic, but a five percent chance

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Speaker 2: of getting in if you were you know, like a

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Speaker 2: white non legacy. Which these are the kinds of numbers

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Speaker 2: we're talking about in terms of how powerful it was

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Speaker 2: to get in. What does that mean for not only

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Speaker 2: graduate programs, but for things like surgical residency, you know,

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Speaker 2: airline pilots. I mean things where if you mess up,

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Speaker 2: people die. Yes, there. I think it is only fair

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Speaker 2: to ask the question, and people don't want to address this,

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Speaker 2: but you know, there's there's been some concerns recently with

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Speaker 2: how the FAA is doing. There's been concerns recently with

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Speaker 2: how uh, you know, with with pilot training. And I

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Speaker 2: mean I know because I hear from people that they're

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Speaker 2: changing pilot training to make it easier. Because they have

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Speaker 2: also changed the incoming classes of pilots to make them

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Speaker 2: more diverse.

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Speaker 3: This is what is going on.

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Speaker 1: There are certain jobs where I honestly think a mildly intelligent,

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Speaker 1: daft imbecile could do them.

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Speaker 3: Some of you may be saying, yeah, I listened to

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Speaker 3: the radio shows. I'm gonna say radio show hosts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And it doesn't matter, right, And I think

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of those jobs, maybe even ninety

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Speaker 1: percent of jobs in America. The overall talent of the

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Speaker 1: person doing it doesn't make that much of a difference.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know anybody.

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Speaker 1: Who has ever had to go in for surgery, or

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Speaker 1: have a family member go in for surgery, or anybody

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Speaker 1: who has ever walked on an airplane that doesn't think

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Speaker 1: for a moment when they walk on, I hope this

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Speaker 1: is the best doctor or the best airplane pilot on

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Speaker 1: the planet.

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Speaker 3: And you're right if.

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Speaker 1: We're finding all these failures in jobs that, let's be honest,

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Speaker 1: don't really matter that much in the grand scheme of things.

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Speaker 1: When your life is on the line. How many of

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Speaker 1: us are risking it just so they can have cosmetic diversity.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but I don't care what ethnicity, what's get color,

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Speaker 2: You know, if I'm going in for, you know, emergency

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Speaker 2: surgery after a car accident, I don't want somebody who

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Speaker 2: got a four to seventy four on the MCAT. That

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Speaker 2: doesn't make me a bad person.

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Speaker 1: All I care about, and I would even take it

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Speaker 1: a step further. I don't care if you're a good dad.

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Speaker 1: to be a badass doctor. That's all I care about.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, I think almost everybody is of

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Speaker 1: that opinion. Maybe Mark Cuban would rather die. Maybe he's

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Speaker 1: so committed to this woe ideology that next time he

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 1: He is Dave McCormick, candidate for the Pennsylvania Senate as

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Speaker 3: I want to start with this though.

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Speaker 1: Republicans have reverse engineered what Democrats are doing? And as

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Speaker 1: we come forward in twenty twenty four with your Senate race,

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Speaker 1: with whom ever the nominee is going to be, obviously,

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Speaker 1: Pennsylvania is massive when it comes to who wins the presidency.

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Speaker 1: Have Republicans caught up?

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Speaker 3: If not? What needs to be done to catch up

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Speaker 3: with the Democrat vote machine?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me, guys listen. It's the thing that's

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Speaker 4: in my mind these days, and I think there's good progress,

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Speaker 4: but a lot of work to do. There's three things

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Speaker 4: we need to do. Number One, we've got to get

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Speaker 4: the vote out the normal vote out in the presidential year,

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Speaker 4: our voters come out in a much bigger way than

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Speaker 4: they do in inter years.

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Speaker 6: And so that's number one. Two.

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Speaker 4: We've got to fix the mail in ballot problems, and

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Speaker 4: there's a huge effort across Pennsylvania. All different parts of

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Speaker 4: the Republican Party and donors have come together. It's going

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Speaker 4: to be multimillion dollars. And we've got to chase low

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Speaker 4: propensity voters. We've got to get them registered for absentee ballots.

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Speaker 4: We got to chase to make sure they do that.

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Speaker 6: We got to then.

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Speaker 4: Get the absentee ballots submitted, and that's a huge problem.

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Speaker 4: We're not going to overcome the Democrats, but we have

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Speaker 4: to close that gap in a significant way. And the

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Speaker 4: third thing we have to do is change the culture

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Speaker 4: where people embrace the idea of mail in ballots, which

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Speaker 4: has been a problem in the past. I think President

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Speaker 4: Trump had been very opposed to that earlier. I think

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Speaker 4: he started to talk about that in a very different way.

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Speaker 4: People need to embrace absentee balloting as a way to

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Speaker 4: make sure those are the current rules, and we need

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Speaker 4: to we need to win with those rules.

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Speaker 6: And if we do that. We're gonna We're gonna win

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Speaker 6: this election.

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Speaker 4: And it's not just for Dave McCormick's campaign, it's for

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Speaker 4: everybody up and down the ticket, including the presidential nominee.

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Speaker 6: The president.

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Speaker 4: Our nominee is likely not going to win the presidency.

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Speaker 6: Unless he or she wins Pennsylvania. So that's the plan.

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Speaker 4: We got a lot of work to do, but I

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Speaker 4: think there's a lot of people focused on it.

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Speaker 3: Hey, David's Buck, thanks for being with us here.

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Speaker 2: I know that you made a trip to Israel. You

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Speaker 2: have your walls regoinal op ed. Yesterday Joe Biden, Bob

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Speaker 2: Casey failed the Israel test. First, just tell what did

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Speaker 2: you see? I mean, bring us into this experience. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure parts of it were really emotionally difficult to be

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Speaker 2: near what had happened on October seventh.

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Speaker 6: It was really unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: My wife and I decided really over the holidays and

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Speaker 4: we wanted to go. I've been a strong advocate of

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Speaker 4: solidarity with Israel, but we wanted to see it on

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Speaker 4: the ground. And she knew a number of people there.

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Speaker 4: She had been involved in negotiating to Abraham Accords as

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Speaker 4: part of President Trump's administration, so we were able to

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Speaker 4: set up very quickly, and it was unbelievable. We went

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Speaker 4: to Copper Aza, which was one of the kibbutz communities

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Speaker 4: where one hundred people.

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Speaker 6: Were massacred on October seven.

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Speaker 4: You walked through those streets, the bullet the bullet holes

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Speaker 4: in the doors, the fragments from grenade, the blood. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you just can't imagine these houses burned down, people burned alive.

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Speaker 4: It was an absolute barbaric tragedy. We then met with

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Speaker 4: a young woman who was at the music festival who was.

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Speaker 6: Shot in the knees.

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Speaker 4: She was in a bombshelter and all of her friends

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Speaker 4: around her were killed. She was underneath the dead bodies

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Speaker 4: and because of that, the terrorists thought she was dead

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Speaker 4: and that saved her and she was rescued hours later.

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Speaker 4: We talked to the parents of hostages, and you know,

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Speaker 4: imagine that in more than ninety days, not knowing if

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Speaker 4: your son or daughter, mother or sister is going to

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Speaker 4: come back, and knowing that they're being held by tortures

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Speaker 4: in gosen tunnels or Gosen prisons. And then the final

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Speaker 4: thing we saw, which is the thing I'll not be

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Speaker 4: able to Unremember was this forty seven minute video.

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Speaker 6: Which I talked about in me if ed. It was taken.

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Speaker 4: It was created by the Israeli military, taken from the

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Speaker 4: body cams of the terrorists that were killed. And you

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Speaker 4: see the barbarism, the decapitation, killing babies.

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Speaker 6: It's just it's unbelievable. You think it's a horror movie.

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Speaker 4: But then but then you know it's not. And so

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Speaker 4: my takeaway from this is we're you know, Israel Is

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Speaker 4: combating pure evil. This is not a group you can negotiate,

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Speaker 4: which you can't live side by side. This Hamas needs

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Speaker 4: to be eradicated. My second takeaway though, is that the

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Speaker 4: original sin is Iran, the deal that Obama did with Iran.

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Speaker 4: Biden's continued that Bob Casey was the decisive vote and

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Speaker 4: has supported all along. This was the original sin which

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Speaker 4: put one hundred billion dollars in the hands of Iran,

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Speaker 4: which it's used to finance all these terrorist proxies hesbla

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Speaker 4: Hamas Islamiki that are now the Huti's which are now

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Speaker 4: shooting at American sailors in the Red Sea, trying to

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Speaker 4: kill Americans in Iraq, in Syria. So we've got to

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Speaker 4: strangle Iran. We've got to stand strong with Israel. It's

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Speaker 4: and it's fight against evil, because it's not just a

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Speaker 4: fight on behalf of Israel's to fight on behalf.

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Speaker 6: Of all of all the West, of all freedom loving people.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to, Dave McCormick. You're running against Bob Casey.

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Speaker 1: Bob Casey seems to have gone super left wing after

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Speaker 1: pretending to be a moderate. But interestingly, John Fetterman, who

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Speaker 1: everybody thought was crazy left wing zealot, has actually been

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent right. I bet even you would say,

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Speaker 1: and I bet you're stunned by it because you ran

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Speaker 1: against the guy. I know you were running in the

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Speaker 1: Republican primary race, but you were planning on anything up

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Speaker 1: running against him. Have you been stunned that Fetterman's been

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Speaker 1: so right on Israel and that Bob Casey's been so wrong?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I I Buck and I have talked about

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Speaker 1: on the show. I never thought I was going to

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Speaker 1: come out and say, you know, Fetterman's one hundred percent right.

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Speaker 1: He's making a lot of sense here. High fives all

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Speaker 1: over the place, lad going on. But even you, I

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Speaker 1: bet too, after coming back from Israel, are like Hey,

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Speaker 1: you know Fetterman nailing this.

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Speaker 4: I'd say two things. I've been shocked by the timidity,

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Speaker 4: by the lack of leadership of a three term incumbent

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Speaker 4: Cender and Bob Casey. Not only is he not speaking

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Speaker 4: out forcefuay with moral clarity and leadership, he's.

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Speaker 6: Not speaking out at all. He's just got his head

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Speaker 6: hunkered down.

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Speaker 4: On the other hand, fetter Man, listen, I probably my

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Speaker 4: guess is I disagree with Feederman on about eighty percent

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Speaker 4: of things. But on three things he's been I think great.

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Speaker 4: And his positions are ones that I've been talking about forever,

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Speaker 4: and I really admire his courage and saying the number one,

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Speaker 4: you've got to support Israeli.

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Speaker 6: He's been a strong voice.

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Speaker 4: Number Two he's called out the border and what a

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Speaker 4: crisis on the border and it needs to be handled.

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Speaker 4: And three he's called for firing Senator Menendez. So in

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Speaker 4: all three cases, I think he's on the right side

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Speaker 4: of things, and I appreciate the fact that he's speaking out,

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Speaker 4: and I think the time, I think that's the contrast

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Speaker 4: that I want to talk about, because we need a

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Speaker 4: leader in the Senate on behalf of Pennsylvania and Bob

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Speaker 4: k He's not that guy.

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Speaker 1: You pen obviously failed in their House and Senate hearings.

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Speaker 1: You're running in Pennsylvania. University of Pennsylvania obviously right there.

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Speaker 1: You come from the business universe. You were very, very

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Speaker 1: successful with Bridgewater, building up so many different businesses. I'll

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Speaker 1: bet you know Bill Ackman somewhat at least, who has

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Speaker 1: been leading the charge on a lot of these issues.

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Speaker 1: How much have you seen based on the people that

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Speaker 1: you worked with in your past, A lot of people

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Speaker 1: suddenly look up and realize, Wow, we've lost control of

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Speaker 1: good and evil instruction at our universities. And how disappointed

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Speaker 1: have you been by the University of Pennsylvania's response to

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Speaker 1: the terror attack of October seventh?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you know.

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Speaker 4: I was one of the first people to say that

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Speaker 4: Liz McGill should be fired. And the reason, and this

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Speaker 4: was before the hearings, and the reason was it just

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Speaker 4: seems so obvious to me when you have Jewish students

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Speaker 4: hiding in their rooms, when you're not enforcing the law

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Speaker 4: against looters and people that were marching on the campus

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Speaker 4: and really calling for genocide, that that that you've lost

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Speaker 4: your position as a leader, and and that the hearings

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Speaker 4: of all three of those presidents made that more clear,

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Speaker 4: and it was a test, and a lot of people

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Speaker 4: have failed that test. I think those presidents have failed

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Speaker 4: that test. I think Bob Casey scale get tests. Many

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Speaker 4: people have failed that test. And part of the reason

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Speaker 4: is that the progressive left ideology.

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Speaker 6: Has defined the world in terms of oppressed and oppressors.

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Speaker 4: And so when you define the world that way, it

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Speaker 4: takes you down some pretty irrational pag like you decide

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Speaker 4: you want to take down the statue of William Penn

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Speaker 4: in Welcome Parts in Philadelphia, or you say things like

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Speaker 4: those three presidents said, where the more the lack of

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Speaker 4: moral clarity and inability to distinguish between right and wrong,

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Speaker 4: the inability to enforce standards of behavi on campuses that

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Speaker 4: protect Jewish students. They've clearly lost the narrative, they've lost

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Speaker 4: the ability to lead in a way that makes sense.

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Speaker 6: And you see huge.

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Speaker 4: Numbers in the donor community, people that have given a

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Speaker 4: lot of money these universities saying I want nothing to

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Speaker 4: do with that. And I also see democrats, frankly, on

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Speaker 4: the campaign tro many Jewish democrats who are saying, listen, that's.

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Speaker 6: Not my party.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to be part of that group of

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Speaker 4: people that are looting the streets of Philadelphia, that are

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Speaker 4: marching on campus saying things about genocide. If my party

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Speaker 4: wants to support that, like Summerly and others, that's not

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Speaker 4: a party I would to be part of it. So

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Speaker 4: I think there's an opportunity here to really set up

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Speaker 4: a high standard of moral clarity and leadership and also

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Speaker 4: be able to build a coalition of people who want

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Speaker 4: to fight for an America based on values of merit

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Speaker 4: and America's exceptionalism in the world in an acturate portrayal

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Speaker 4: of history.

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Speaker 2: David mcorwick everybody, David, before we let you go. Where

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Speaker 2: is your Senate website?

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Speaker 4: You can find me at Dave MCCORMICKPA dot com. And

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Speaker 4: you know, I've.

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Speaker 6: Been building great support over the last quarter.

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Speaker 4: I really appreciate your listeners engaging and going to the website,

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Speaker 4: and I'm brilliant. Thank you guys for the opportunity to

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Speaker 4: be on the show.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much for being with us. Appreciated.

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Speaker 2: So look, I got to admit sometimes when Clay is

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Speaker 2: right about something and or has knowledge to share, I

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Speaker 2: got here and I have to just listen, like occasionally,

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Speaker 2: and when it comes to sports gambling, a guy who

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Speaker 2: doesn't know anything, when it comes to prizes and things

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Speaker 2: you can do online and an apps, I'm a guy

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Speaker 2: who doesn't know anything. So I'm trying to learn about

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Speaker 2: sports right I'm trying to learn about who's going to

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Speaker 2: win the big game. I'm trying to learn about all

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Speaker 2: of the different things that are going on. Sports fans

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Speaker 2: right now are downloading a free app called Prize Picks,

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Speaker 2: and they're having a blast with it. It's an app

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Speaker 2: and a website that makes following sports and players a

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Speaker 2: whole lot more fun. On particular, the stats you could

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Speaker 2: win up at twenty five times what you invest.

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