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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have some fun, as we always do on

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Speaker 1: the show, but a little bit of a unique fun

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Speaker 1: for the next two weeks. I'm gonna be in our

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Speaker 1: iHeart studios by and large here in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be bringing in a lot of congressman, a

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Speaker 1: lot of Senators. We are going to be with President Trump,

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Speaker 1: Buck and I in the Oval Office. We're gonna head

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Speaker 1: out to the Pentagon. We're gonna be at Secretary of State.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be all over the place in DC for

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Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks. So you may have no

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Speaker 1: idea who's gonna be on from one moment to the next,

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Speaker 1: but it should be really cool. We're obviously on here

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Speaker 1: but we have awesome studios here. If you've been to

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Speaker 1: Just a couple of blocks away from the Capitol, just

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Speaker 1: a couple of blocks away from the White House. In fact,

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Speaker 1: this morning I went up to Capitol Hill because I

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Speaker 1: have got my oldest son doing an internship, which is

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Speaker 1: the primary reason why I said, hey, let's go to

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Speaker 1: DC for a couple of weeks. So he is up

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Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill learning how the government works, and Dad

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Speaker 1: is in charge of him. Buck is stuck somewhere on

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Speaker 1: a tarmac, as many of you are aware, at thunderstorm season,

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Speaker 1: the worst time to be trying to travel anywhere. He

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Speaker 1: will be back with me tomorrow here in our DC studios,

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Speaker 1: and let me give you a little bit of roadmap

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Speaker 1: of where we're headed before I dive into this chaos

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles and why I think it's so significant.

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Speaker 1: Marcia Blackburn and Tommy Tuberville, two senators, are going to

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Speaker 1: so you can put that on the horizon. We will

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Speaker 1: also be joined by Riley Gaines here at the bottom

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Speaker 1: of the hour. She works at out Kick alongside of me.

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Speaker 1: She is fabulous and out of nowhere. Olympic gymnast Simone

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Speaker 1: Biles ripped her for being two outspoken on keeping men

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Speaker 1: be at the bottom of the hour. You guys can

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Speaker 1: be prepared for that. But I wanted to say, first

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Speaker 1: of all, hope you guys had fabulous weekends and we

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Speaker 1: are going to have like you can tell as I

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Speaker 1: just laid out a super pac show here on the

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Speaker 1: Monday edition of the program. But many of you, alongside

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Speaker 1: of certainly me, we're watching last night as unfortunately, we

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Speaker 1: had what felt like an echo of the summer of

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Speaker 1: loved riding in these autonomous vehicles waymos that have taken

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Speaker 1: I loved it. They were on fire in Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: And here's what I think is going on. I think

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Speaker 1: protests begin, you have to nip them in the bud immediately.

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Speaker 1: You cannot allow them to grow and spread and then

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Speaker 1: percent should be one hundred percent openness for protest in

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that you, as we saw in January sixth,

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Speaker 1: are the First Amendment and boobs in a eight year

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Speaker 1: what Trump learned from the first administration is you have

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Speaker 1: it's astro turfed. They bring in professional protesters who want

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Speaker 1: many parts of American cities into violent cesspools. They burn

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Speaker 1: murder rates in this country are collapsing all over the

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Speaker 1: not hearing a lot of people talk about it. And yes,

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Speaker 1: We're not going to allow history to repeat itself. Now,

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Speaker 1: this is LA's police chief, Jim McDonell. This is cut

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Speaker 2: The National Guard was federalized, so they're working for the

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Speaker 1: Do we need them?

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Speaker 2: Well, looking at it tonight, you know this thing has

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Speaker 1: Okay, when the police chief says it's out of control,

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Speaker 1: that's a sign that probably he wants the National Guard

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Speaker 1: on Gavin Newsom, governor of California, and Karen Bass, the

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Speaker 4: For those protests that cross the line. I've said many

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Speaker 4: times you can protest, you get your first point of rights,

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Speaker 4: but when you cross that line, you put hands on

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Speaker 1: Okay. Police chief says violence out of control. He also

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Speaker 1: says that you just heard Tom Holman saying We're not

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Speaker 2: Cut seven to the people who are not happy with

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Speaker 2: the fact that ICE is in the community doing what

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Speaker 2: It's I respect ICE for being a fellow law enforcement agency.

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Speaker 2: They have their mission, they have their what they have

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Speaker 1: They have every right to do that.

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Speaker 2: This violence that I've seen is disgusting. It's escalated now

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Speaker 2: individuals out there shooting commercial grade fireworks at our officers.

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Speaker 1: That can kill you. Okay, Trump says, look, they spit,

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Speaker 1: we hit this cut one. Listen, I have a little statement.

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Speaker 6: They say, they spin, we hit. I told them nobody's

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Speaker 7: Nobody's gonna spit on our military.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So that is the background. Now you watch the

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Speaker 1: images yourself. There are cars burning, police cars burning. They

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Speaker 1: are being attacked police officers. Listen to what you heard

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Speaker 1: if you were on ABC News in La. This is

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Speaker 1: Mark Brown. He wants you to know. Look, this is

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Speaker 1: just a lot of people who want to have fun

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Speaker 1: watching cars burn. It's not a riot. This is what

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Speaker 8: Listen to cut four large group of people. It could

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Speaker 8: turn very volatile if you move law enforcement in there

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Speaker 8: and the wrong way and turn what is just a

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Speaker 8: bunch of people having fun watching cars burn into a

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Speaker 8: massive confrontation and altercation between officers and demonstrators.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, a bunch of people having fun watching cars burn.

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Speaker 1: They're not pulling out skewers and making s'mores in the

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Speaker 1: This is attacking people all over the city. Do you

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Speaker 1: think those cops were like, man, they're just having fun

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Speaker 1: There's no way that Olympic gymnasts Simone Biles, out of

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Speaker 1: set back and you're like, yes, she has been thankful

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Speaker 1: obliterated by people from across the the athletic spectrum for

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Speaker 1: what she did. Why did she do it? Where did

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Speaker 1: this come from?

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Speaker 10: This is what I've been trying to figure out. I've

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Speaker 10: seen a couple of different series, and I've actually had

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Speaker 10: several Team USA gymnasts, both men and women, actually tons

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Speaker 10: of Olympians across the board, all kinds of different sports.

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Speaker 10: So every shout I will disclose any names, but several

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Speaker 10: have told me privately that this was an attempt to

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Speaker 10: put her name back in the spotlight prior to a

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Speaker 10: Netflix docu series that is to come out called Simon.

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Speaker 10: I think it's called Simone Rising or something of that nature,

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Speaker 10: which what a what a hilarious thing. Simone Bile's allegedly

446
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Speaker 10: feeling like she means to get back into the spotlight,

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Speaker 10: and she does it by criticizing me insane, So that

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Speaker 10: number one could potentially be a possibility. Some people are

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Speaker 10: saying they don't think this was really her, as a

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Speaker 10: management company or someone who runs her her social media

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Speaker 10: who posted this. Some people are saying she's been paid

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Speaker 10: to post this. That now posted receipts of her linked

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Speaker 10: with a certain like activist based organization that's in the

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Speaker 10: forty fifty million dollars and she's been tied to them.

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Speaker 10: So I have no idea. I cannot again I just

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Speaker 10: can't and with a sound mind, think she did this

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Speaker 10: because she actually believes it being an elite gymnast. I mean,

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Speaker 10: you look at men's and women's gymnastics. They're not even

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Speaker 10: the same sport essentially, Like you have palm of horse

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Speaker 10: and rings on the men's you don't have that with

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Speaker 10: the women. You don't have beam. Men don't compete on beam, right,

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Speaker 10: Like they're totally different sports essentially. I cannot believe that

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Speaker 10: she actually thinks this, So I guess the motive. The

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Speaker 10: motive is still in the up in the air.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And by the way, let me say this because

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Speaker 1: my wife was a very good gymnast, and I think

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Speaker 1: she came in fifth in the state Michigan as a senior.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty good. And she has argued for years if

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Speaker 1: men did the women's contests, men would be way better

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Speaker 1: at them than the women are. And to your point, Riley,

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Speaker 1: most women can't even do a lot of the things

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Speaker 1: that the men do right, like the rings, for instance,

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Speaker 1: Most women wouldn't have the upper body strength to be

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Speaker 1: able to do the things that men do. There. That's

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Speaker 1: not an attack on women's gymnastics. It's just that for

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Speaker 1: people who don't do those things men would be able

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Speaker 1: to do, for instance, the floor routine or the vault

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Speaker 1: or all these things, the ring the uneven bars better

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Speaker 1: than women do them because they're bigger, stronger, and faster.

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Speaker 1: That would translate even to gymnastics. I didn't know that. Again,

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Speaker 1: this is my wife analyzing it. Who does this stuff

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Speaker 1: at a high level or used to anyway, So she's

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Speaker 1: gotten attacked. I also think this is important. She waited

484
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Speaker 1: until her career was over, and you have talked about this.

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Speaker 1: Meghan Rappino did the same thing, the US women's soccer player.

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Speaker 1: You have seen women retire and then say, oh, I'm

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Speaker 1: fine with men going into women's sports. It's like they're

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Speaker 1: yanking the ladder up. I give credit. It's amazing. Jk Rowling.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever met jk Rowling? By the way, the

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Speaker 1: Harry Potter author, I have.

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Speaker 10: Never met jk Rowling. Of course she lives overseas, but

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Speaker 10: we've been able to communicate back and forth on X

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Speaker 10: maybe some other platforms. She's incredible the way that she

494
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Speaker 10: had everything to lose. Yes, most people think she has

495
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Speaker 10: nothing to lose because she's already made her career. She

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Speaker 10: had everything to lose, yet it didn't matter to her.

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Speaker 10: It still doesn't matter to her, even she came out

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Speaker 10: with a pretty fiery tweet, Yes I directed towards some

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Speaker 10: own Biles. So she's to me a modern day civil

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Speaker 10: rights heroin.

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Speaker 1: I love her, And to your point, I read the

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Speaker 1: Harry Potter books back in the day. She's a billionaire.

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Speaker 1: She had no reason to need to an athlete to

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Speaker 1: speak out against the transagenda. She just saw it as

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Speaker 1: fundamentally a lie and wasn't willing to continue to tell

506
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Speaker 1: a lie. And so when you see Simone Biles, Megan Rapino,

507
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Speaker 1: your athletic career is now over and you are fighting

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Speaker 1: for your sister or other girls who might come after you,

509
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Speaker 1: for instance, to be able to compete only against women.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it uniquely awful and indefensible for highly successful female athletes,

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Speaker 1: who made tens of millions of dollars off of their

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Speaker 1: athletic talents, to suddenly come out in favor of men

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Speaker 1: and women's sports when they never are going to have

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Speaker 1: to compete against them themselves.

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Speaker 10: It's the definition of pulling up the ladder behind you.

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Speaker 10: That's exactly what Meghan Repino has done. That's exactly what

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Speaker 10: Simone Biles has now done. It's why. Look, like I said,

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Speaker 10: I publicly called on It was like this little campaign

519
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Speaker 10: thing I did maybe a year a year and a

520
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Speaker 10: half two years ago at this point, where I publicly

521
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Speaker 10: called on current elite male athletes in various different sports,

522
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Speaker 10: Caitlin Clark being one of them too, to stand with

523
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Speaker 10: women and just simply say that men should not be

524
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Speaker 10: in women's sports. I called them Serena Williams and if

525
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Speaker 10: you can remember she said on David Letterman in twenty thirteen,

526
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Speaker 10: I mean basically she already said it, but that was

527
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Speaker 10: before I guess it was bigoted or transphobic to say it.

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Speaker 3: But not a.

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Speaker 10: Single woman, not at least the ones that I've called on,

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Speaker 10: have chosen to respond in any manner. I mean, it's

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Speaker 10: been total silence. Crickets tried the same thing with men

532
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Speaker 10: on the other hand, but a totally different response. I

533
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Speaker 10: have male athletes, people like Bronk right, who come out

534
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Speaker 10: and say, yeah, men shouldn't be one in sports. Easy

535
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Speaker 10: to say that, right, Not really in my fight we

536
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Speaker 10: had several who said, you know, this is kind of

537
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Speaker 10: up to the women's handle, but yeah, this is crazy

538
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Speaker 10: I think it speaks to, of course, the physical differences

539
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Speaker 10: that are very obvious that people can see and observe

540
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Speaker 10: between men and women. But even just this little campaign

541
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Speaker 10: proved that men and women are inherently different in our

542
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Speaker 10: characteristics and how we approach things, and how women are

543
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Speaker 10: more emotionally driven and apologetic and empathetic and men are

544
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Speaker 10: typically more assertive, and that was made very clear in

545
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Speaker 10: this campaign we did. But yeah, Megan Raupino also important

546
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Speaker 10: to mention she's not interested in men. Therefore it is unlikely.

547
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Speaker 10: I know, she can still adopt or whatever options are

548
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Speaker 10: out there for her and her wife, Sue Bird, But

549
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Speaker 10: Megan Repino's not gonna have kids, so for her, she

550
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Speaker 10: has nothing on the line right Like she's done with

551
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Speaker 10: her career. She's not gonna have a daughter of her own.

552
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Speaker 10: She doesn't care. It's totally an attempt to virtue signal

553
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Speaker 10: be seen as this inclusive figure for all, but in reality,

554
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Speaker 10: what you're doing is being exclusive to women.

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Speaker 1: You have been so outspoken like Riley Gains. How much

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Speaker 1: do you let me mention this because I think people

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Speaker 1: might have missed it, But you had a man when

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Speaker 1: two different women's track titles in California had a man

559
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Speaker 1: win in Washington. The impetus for Simone Bile's reaction here

560
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Speaker 1: was a man was the star pitcher on a Minnesota

561
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Speaker 1: softball state champion team. And I think the initial comment

562
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Speaker 1: that she was responding to was you sharing the fact

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Speaker 1: that in Minnesota they had turned the comments off on

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Speaker 1: the team photo which showed the boy way taller than

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Speaker 1: everybody else on the team. How much do you think

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Speaker 1: the conversation has changed as oh, this never happens when

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Speaker 1: you got California, Washington, and Minnesota all in the space

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Speaker 1: of basically a week with state championships being won by

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Speaker 1: men pretending to be women.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, well, important to mention just last week, as you said,

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Speaker 10: this happened in five states Minnesota, California, Washington, Oregon, and

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Speaker 10: Maine where boys soul state qualifying spots, state championships or

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Speaker 10: podium spots from I mean deserving, hard working girls. So

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Speaker 10: five blue states that that you, I mean, the whole

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Speaker 10: it doesn't really happen argument. It can't stand at all

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Speaker 10: when it continues to happen. But that's the classic progression

577
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Speaker 10: of these issues is, well it doesn't happen, so we

578
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Speaker 10: don't have to worry about it. You know, you're you're

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Speaker 10: looking for a solution in search of a problem. That

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Speaker 10: that's step one, right, I think that was. That was

581
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Speaker 10: when I was competing, That was twenty twenty two. It

582
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Speaker 10: never really happens. Then it slowly shifts to you, Okay,

583
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Speaker 10: well it is happening, but it's not happening a lot,

584
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Speaker 10: therefore we shouldn't be concerned about this. Then it progresses too, Okay,

585
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Speaker 10: well it's happening, and here's why. It's a good thing

586
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Speaker 10: that it's happening. And then I think the final stage

587
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Speaker 10: of it is it's happening, it's a good thing, and

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Speaker 10: you're going to accept it or else. Again. That's that's

589
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Speaker 10: the classic progression, not just with this issue, but a

590
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Speaker 10: lot of these fringe cultural issues. That's why now you're

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Speaker 10: seeing what's happening in La happened.

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Speaker 1: It's it's the.

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Speaker 10: Same progression, but now the whole it's not really happening thing.

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Speaker 10: It just doesn't stand. And to acknowledge how the blick

595
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Speaker 10: has has shifted to this again, look at someone biles

596
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Speaker 10: comments section, go on Instagram, go on Twitter, go on

597
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Speaker 10: on any article that's being posted, go on TikTok, and

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Speaker 10: she is getting absolutely demolished, to the point where I

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Speaker 10: reading these comments and like, oh my gosh, Like I

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Speaker 10: at all what has happened. I haven't read a single

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Speaker 1: At least that's to what my kids tell me.

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Speaker 7: That's simple enough. Just search the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Takes a less than five seconds to help ununk me.

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Speaker 7: Do it for Clay, do it for freedom, and get

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Speaker 7: great content while you're there the Klay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 7: Sexton Show YouTube channel.

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Speaker 1: You're up in Washington, d C. For the next couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks. Buck is going to join me tomorrow. He's

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Speaker 1: in the process of trying to get up here. He's

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Speaker 1: not gone smoothly. I'm sitting in studio right now with

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Speaker 1: Senator Marsha Blackburn from Tennessee, and I'm up here because

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Speaker 1: my son is going to be doing an internship, and

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Speaker 1: this is an intern season for so many different offices

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Speaker 1: out there. Do you remember the first time you came

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Speaker 1: to d C. I know you end up here for

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Speaker 1: a while. What do you remember about that? What?

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Speaker 5: Hell?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 5: I was in high school and it was a four

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Speaker 5: h club leadership summit and it was absolutely so exciting

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Speaker 5: to me and to come up and to have lunch

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Speaker 5: with my senator and get that photo and you know

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Speaker 5: what fun.

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Speaker 1: What do you think young Marsha Blackburn on that four

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Speaker 1: h trip would have thought if you had told her, hey,

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Speaker 1: one day you're going to be a congresswoman and a

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Speaker 1: senator yourself. Do you think you would have believed it?

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Speaker 1: Were you interested in politics at that age?

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Speaker 5: I was very involved. Yes, I thought that good citizenship

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Speaker 5: was important and we even as I was cleaning out

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Speaker 5: some things one day I found a flyer I had

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Speaker 5: done and distributed to all my neighbors as part of

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Speaker 5: a citizenship project, reminding them to go vote and the

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Speaker 5: importance of going to vote. But never would I have

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Speaker 5: thought I would have been an elective office. But you know,

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Speaker 5: that's just one of those things I tell young people

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Speaker 5: all the time. Be ready to walk through open doors

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Speaker 5: and realize you don't chart your path, God charts your path.

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Speaker 5: And to be mindful and to accept those open doors.

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Speaker 1: What did you think last night when you saw the

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Speaker 1: footage from Los Angeles out of control?

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Speaker 5: These men and women that are there trying to get

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Speaker 5: these criminal illegal aliens. Why in the world would you

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Speaker 5: have a mayor and a governor that are siding and

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Speaker 5: trying to protect criminal illegal aliens and to obstruct ice

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Speaker 5: and keep them from doing their job. And you know,

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Speaker 5: I Clay, you talk to so many people when you're

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Speaker 5: on the air every day. I'm not hearing from people

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Speaker 5: that want to keep criminal illegal aliens. Look at what

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Speaker 5: is happening in Nashville. And this is not a partisan issue.

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Speaker 5: This is a ninety percent issue. And people will say,

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Speaker 5: if they are criminals, they need to be removed. Let's

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Speaker 5: remove these individuals. And people realize that coming across that

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Speaker 5: border illegally is a crime. And of course we isis

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Speaker 5: out there doing their job. We are a nation that

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Speaker 5: is built on the rule of law, and it is

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Speaker 5: imperative that these officials implement and bide by the law.

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Speaker 5: If they don't like the law, they can try to

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Speaker 5: change the law, but it is there are set procedures

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Speaker 5: for entering the country legally. There are statutes that determine

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Speaker 5: what is and is not a crime, and whether it's

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Speaker 5: a felony or a misdemeanor. And to have people that

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Speaker 5: want to pick and choose and say we're going to

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Speaker 5: enforce this, but we're not going to enforce that, and

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Speaker 5: a sanctuary for this but not for that.

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Speaker 3: This is.

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Speaker 5: What really spurs a lot of the chaos that you're

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Speaker 5: seeing take place in places like LA.

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Speaker 1: It's not just La either, because I hear from some

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Speaker 1: people and I know we've got a lot of people

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Speaker 1: listening in California, but they say, oh, that's just a

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Speaker 1: blue city there. What do I care. We live in

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Speaker 1: a red state. You and me one of my senators,

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Speaker 1: and I'm glad that you are, and maybe more here

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Speaker 1: in a little bit. But when you see what's happening

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Speaker 1: in Nashville, because I think a lot of people out

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Speaker 1: there say, okay, state Tennessee very red. There's a mayor,

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Speaker 1: Freddie O'Connell in a city of Nashville who has basically said, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're going to try to stop ice from doing their work.

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Speaker 1: This has become a big talking point many cities all

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Speaker 1: over the place. First, you have got a bill called

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Speaker 1: the Remove Act that would take from ninety days down

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Speaker 1: to fifteen days to help expedite the removal of people

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Speaker 1: who shouldn't be in this country. So that is something

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Speaker 1: you're doing directly to try to help the president. But

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Speaker 1: when you see a city like Nashville, when you see

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Speaker 1: someone making the choices that the mayor there is making,

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Speaker 1: that Karen bass is making in Los Angeles, to directly

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Speaker 1: defy the president's authority, can you believe it?

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Speaker 3: It is difficult to believe.

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Speaker 5: And this is why removing these criminal, illegal aliens is

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Speaker 5: a ninety percent issue and people want them to be

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Speaker 5: taken out of the country. And the other thing is

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Speaker 5: the doxing. This is something that happened in Nashville and

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Speaker 5: you had the mayor and his office that actually exposed

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Speaker 5: the names of HSI investigators and also of our ice

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Speaker 5: agents and their operations. Now you cannot do that and

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Speaker 5: exposing that. We found out that it is not illegal

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Speaker 5: to reveal the name of a law enforcement officer. It

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Speaker 5: is illegal when they're undercover and you reveal their information.

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Speaker 5: So my preventing law enforcement doxing that legislation we've also

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Speaker 5: filed to include law enforcements who are implementing the law

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Speaker 5: in that so that we can protect our law enforcement

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Speaker 5: officers at the local, state.

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Speaker 3: And federal level.

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Speaker 5: It should be illegal to dox them, whether they're undercover

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Speaker 5: or out doing their regular job. And what we see

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Speaker 5: happening with this obstruction is people are saying, why the

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Speaker 5: Democrats choosing to.

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Speaker 3: Die on this hill?

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Speaker 5: Why are they absolutely making this their issue number one

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Speaker 5: when this is something that people overwhelmingly support. Get them

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Speaker 5: removed from the country. Protect law enforcement, don't dox them,

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Speaker 5: don't go put their pictures up, don't go put their

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Speaker 5: home address, don't endanger their families. People want to show

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Speaker 5: respect for law enforcement.

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Speaker 1: Department of Justice investigating what Nashville has happened. You've asked

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Speaker 1: for that, Yes, Pam Bondi's the attorney general. What do

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Speaker 1: you expect that investigation to be, like, how should it be?

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm sure they will have something to say

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Speaker 5: about this.

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Speaker 3: Sent the letter over.

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Speaker 5: I have requested that they formalize an investigation, and I

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Speaker 5: would expect that at some point we will hear from that.

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Speaker 5: You do have the Homeland Security Committee in the House,

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Speaker 5: which is chaired by Representative Green out of Tennessee. Yes,

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Speaker 5: and also the Judiciary Committee in the house. They have

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Speaker 5: started an investigation and looking at what happened with obstructing

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Speaker 5: these raids.

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Speaker 1: Were you a studd I mean, you've lived in the

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Speaker 1: state of Tennessee and in the Nashville area, as have

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Speaker 1: I for a very long time. And look, sometimes mayors

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Speaker 1: are good, sometimes mayors are bad, particularly as it pertains

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Speaker 1: to any big city that you might have in a state.

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Speaker 1: I was stunned when I saw the mayor of Nashville,

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Speaker 1: Freddie O'Connell, engaging in this behavior and having a press

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Speaker 1: conference to brag about it. Were you as stunned as

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Speaker 1: I was?

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Speaker 5: I was stunned. I couldn't believe that there would be

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Speaker 5: a defiance of removing criminals. You know, one of the

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Speaker 5: top issues when you talk to people in Middle Tennessee

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Speaker 5: and West Tennessee crime they talk about the escalated occurrence

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Speaker 5: of criminal acts. Carjackings, particularly home.

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Speaker 1: Robbery, had one of the high violent crime rates in

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Speaker 1: the whole nation, right, And.

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Speaker 5: So it has stunned people that Nashville had a mayor

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Speaker 5: that would come out and would choose to protect criminal,

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Speaker 5: illegal aliens over law abiding citizens. When people have been

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Speaker 5: saying we've got to get the crime down, they've been

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Speaker 5: really unsettled by the number of home rob yes that

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Speaker 5: have taken place and the number of gangs that have

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Speaker 5: moved into the Nashville area. I have not talked to

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Speaker 5: a single person who wants to have more Trenda or

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Speaker 5: Agua or MS thirteen in their community.

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Speaker 3: I mean, not one. They want them gone.

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Speaker 1: They should be gone. We're talking to Senator Marsha Blackburn

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Speaker 1: of Tennessee, Okay, in particular. Now, Big Beautiful Bill is underway. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you are in the Senate majority fifty three Republicans. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you like everybody else, saw Elon and Trump going

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Speaker 1: back and forth. Elon says there's not enough cutting of

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Speaker 1: spending that's going on. This is past the House. President

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Speaker 1: Trump says, Hey, we're going to create incredible growth rate.

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Speaker 1: We're going to put in place all these tax cuts

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Speaker 1: for years and years ago, because otherwise they expire. What

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Speaker 1: should we know about the Big Beautiful Bill? What should

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Speaker 1: the timeframe be? There's a ton of deal with the

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Speaker 1: border as well, which would help to ideally keep some

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Speaker 1: other president like Biden from wide opening the border again

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Speaker 1: to allow people to pour in. What's the latest? What

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Speaker 1: should we know? What's the time for us, yes, and.

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Speaker 5: We are hopeful to have it to the President by

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Speaker 5: July fourth, so that we've got that true independence today

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Speaker 5: and we know that this is a tax cut bill.

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Speaker 3: It is kind of tax cut and jobs at two.

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Speaker 5: Point zero, and we will make those tax cuts permanent.

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Speaker 5: We're also trying to make permanent R and D bus

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Speaker 5: bonus appreciation, interest expensing because we've got a lot of

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Speaker 5: small businesses in Tennessee. Ninety three percent of our jobs

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Speaker 5: are small business jobs in the state and that's important

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Speaker 5: to them. Also provisions for no tax on tips over

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Speaker 5: time and social Security, and that is my legislation to

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Speaker 5: remove the tax from social Security for our seniors. In

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Speaker 5: the process of negotiating those, we're finalizing some of those provisions.

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Speaker 5: We want to get permanence on these provisions. That's how

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Speaker 5: you get that extended growth that will run out past

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Speaker 5: ten years. So we'd like not to be back at

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Speaker 5: the negotiating table. In businesses and individuals, tennesseeans tell me

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Speaker 5: all the time, just tell me what the rules are

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Speaker 5: and I'll play by the rules. But we don't like

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Speaker 5: this changing everything, and especially when we have so many

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Speaker 5: small businesses, mom and pops, small business manufacturing businesses on

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Speaker 5: our main streets. We need some permanents.

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Speaker 1: We've had Senator Ron Johnson on the show. He says

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Speaker 1: more spending needs to be cut. We've had Ran Paul

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Speaker 1: On saying the same thing. Are you optimistic that the

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Speaker 1: Senate is going to be able to come to us?

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, I am.

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Speaker 5: The House did one and a half trillion in spending reductions.

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Speaker 5: The Senate won't say two trillillion dollar reduction. And we've

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Speaker 5: got a pathway.

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Speaker 3: To do that. Now.

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Speaker 5: The Doge cuts are they have to come to us

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Speaker 5: through omb from the White House, and then that is

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Speaker 5: going into what is called a recision bill, So we

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Speaker 5: can't put those into the reconciliation the tax bill.

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Speaker 3: They've got to travel separately. Kind of.

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Speaker 5: It's the same time we got the first package of those.

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Speaker 5: It's nine billion dollars, which over a ten billion a

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Speaker 5: ten year period, you're talking about significant savings.

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Speaker 1: Last question for you, I think the key to all

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Speaker 1: this is growth. There's a guy who lives in the

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Speaker 1: Nashville area. You're kind of smart. Come on, yeah, he

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Speaker 1: makes this case, but I think it's one that is

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Speaker 1: being missed a little bit. And I want to give

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Speaker 1: you an opportunity. But if we get the growth of

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Speaker 1: the economy to three percent or more, which I think

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Speaker 1: we will, then we are going to actually start to

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Speaker 1: cut the deficit.

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Speaker 3: That's correct.

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Speaker 1: It's really important because the CBO, and there's all these

867
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Speaker 1: numbers that are running around out there, all of it's

868
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Speaker 1: predicated the projections on what the growth rate of the

869
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Speaker 1: country is. If we get to three percent, then the

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Speaker 1: national debt starts getting paid down, and the President's focused

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Speaker 1: on growth more than cuts. Ideally you get both, but growth,

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Speaker 1: to a large extent, according to people like Art Laugher,

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Speaker 1: is the most important thing that is accurate.

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Speaker 5: And bear in mind CBO is always wrong on their projections.

875
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Speaker 5: They have been wrong every single time. They were wrong

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Speaker 5: on the twenty seventeen cuts. And so you do want

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Speaker 5: to reduce spending and you want to get that growth.

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Speaker 5: And President Trump had the Senate Finance Republicans at the

879
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Speaker 5: White House last week to work on some of this

880
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Speaker 5: with him, the Vice President, Secretary Besson, and Kevin Hassett.

881
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Speaker 5: And one of the things we know is that if

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Speaker 5: you are growing, if you put these cuts in place,

883
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Speaker 5: and it's the largest tax cut, and you get permanence

884
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Speaker 5: on R and D and expensing and depreciation. Then you

885
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Speaker 5: are going to see that because you will have your

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Speaker 5: small businesses choose to grow, yes, and to hire and

887
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Speaker 5: to expand. That is how you get that growth. And

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Speaker 5: the multiplier effect on that is so significant.

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Speaker 1: And not only that. COVID hit right as Trump's economy

890
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Speaker 1: was exploding right January of twenty twenty February of twenty

891
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Speaker 1: twenty probably the greatest economic season we've ever had. Correct

892
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Speaker 1: and then COVID happened, and suddenly everything goes off the rails.

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Speaker 1: We get that rolling again by twenty twenty four, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty eight, in the next election cycle, we should be

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Speaker 1: firing on all silly.

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Speaker 5: That is accurate, and we are looking forward to having

897
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Speaker 5: this permanence. And then bear in mind too, in twenty seventeen,

898
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Speaker 5: when we did the Tax Cut and Jobs Act, the

899
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Speaker 5: biggest benefactor of those changes were your small businesses. You

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Speaker 5: saw such an explosion of small business manufacturing, and this

901
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 5: was so good for Tennessee. We had a lot of

902
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Speaker 5: businesses that had been there for years that this was

903
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Speaker 5: their chance to grow, so they jumped to that level.

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Speaker 5: And now they are waiting to hire, They are waiting

905
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Speaker 5: to invest. They're waiting to punch send on those equipment

906
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Speaker 5: orders because they want to be able to depreciate that

907
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Speaker 5: in that first year or two and then move into upgrades.

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Speaker 1: Senator Marshall Blackburn with us by the way, just walking

909
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Speaker 1: in behind you, one of your senate colleague, Senator Tommy Tubberville,

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Speaker 1: to be governor colleagues before long two.

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Speaker 3: Timmy Tubberville is a great guy. We call him coach.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going to be on with us here at

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Speaker 1: just a second. Senator Marshall Blackburn, thank you. Keep up

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Speaker 1: the good work and we look forward to celebrating the

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941
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Speaker 1: the sun. You just heard from Senator Marshall Blackburn at Tennessee,

942
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 1: and now you got a guy who's a senator and

943
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: also soon to be a governor, Tommy Tupperville. I know

944
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 1: you made the announcement. It was the last week I was.

945
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: I was on a vacation with my kids running around

946
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Speaker 1: at Universal Studios, so I know you were on with

947
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 1: Buck but we'll dive into all that here in a moment.

948
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Speaker 1: But also, I know you are a monster football fan.

949
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: They had a big decision about twenty and a half

950
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 1: million dollars to spend. I bet you still talk to

951
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: a lot of coaches. I do too. Did you ever

952
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: think that we'd end up in this situation where guys

953
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Speaker 1: are basically holding out every few months and saying, Hey,

954
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Speaker 1: unless I get ex coach, I'm not going to play

955
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Speaker 1: for you. I know the Senate it's not easy, but

956
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: do a part of you feel a little bit sorry

957
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: for some of these coaches what they have to deal

958
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: with on a day to day basis.

959
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 6: It's a killer that's just gonna run a lot of

960
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 6: people out. Obviously Nick didn't. He didn't last long. He

961
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 6: got out. And when you can't control your destiny. And

962
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 6: Nick and I and a lot of my buddies I

963
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 6: grew up with, we learned from from good people. Yeah,

964
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 6: Jimmy Johnson, you bring in two three stars nobody ever

965
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 6: heard of, and you build a football team.

966
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Speaker 1: You can't do that anymore.

967
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Speaker 6: It's not about building a team, it's not about loyalty,

968
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 6: and it's not about education. The three things that it

969
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 6: should be about it's totally gotten away from that and

970
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 6: out it's about money. And I'm fine with them making money.

971
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 6: I've always thought they should make money. It's a full

972
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Speaker 6: time job. And but there's really it's hard to make

973
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 6: a plan for it. When you've got six hundred athletes,

974
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 6: half of them are women and then the other half

975
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Speaker 6: most of them are Olympic sports and men's sports non revenue.

976
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Speaker 6: You have two sports. You know, basketball really doesn't make

977
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Speaker 6: any money. Everybody said, well, men's basketball at one or

978
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 6: two schools might make money them. They're lucky to break even.

979
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Speaker 6: They spend a lot of money. The only only one

980
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Speaker 6: that makes money is the big stadium football teams. And

981
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 6: of course now the TV contracts have gotten huge. But yeah,

982
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 6: twenty zero point five million to spread around on each team. Now,

983
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 6: you don't have to get involved in that, you know that, Clay, Yeah,

984
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 6: you can opt out and say, listen, we don't have

985
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Speaker 6: the money to do it. And that's what's going to

986
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 6: happen to seventy percent. They don't have the money to

987
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Speaker 6: do that.

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00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: Right. We're talking to Senator Tommy Tuberville. Next year he'll

989
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: be governor Tommy Tuberbowl, which will be an interesting transition.

990
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: Why what's the role that as Alabama governor was so

991
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: attractive to you? Next year, you'll, I think, you know,

992
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: go ahead and make a prediction be the next governor

993
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 1: for Alabama. What do you want to do.

994
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Speaker 6: Well, I'm a builder, as I was a football coach,

995
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 6: and up here you're one of one hundred, and you

996
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 6: can do a lot of good for your state and

997
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 6: the country. It's really watered down. It runs at a

998
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 6: slow pace. But I looked at stay in and my

999
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 6: wife and I talked about it, and you know, I've

1000
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 6: got grandkids now, and I look at a situation where

1001
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 6: I can go home. I can take the experience that

1002
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 6: I've learned up here, all the all the connections. Now

1003
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 6: you've got to have connections to get federal money. And

1004
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 6: I can go back to Alabama and we can we

1005
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 6: can get a coaching staff, as i'd call it, you know,

1006
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 6: people run education, health care, and military all that, and

1007
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 6: do the same thing at a at a smaller level,

1008
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 6: just for the five million people in the state. And

1009
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Speaker 6: uh we go from there and we hit the ground running.

1010
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 6: So you can you can see results as a governor.

1011
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 6: You can see results here. Say they are few and

1012
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 6: far between, and they're very, very slow. And again I

1013
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 6: didn't I didn't mind doing it when we would I

1014
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 6: had bid administration. It was defense. I'm a defensive guy,

1015
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 6: but it was defense all the time. You couldn't get

1016
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Speaker 6: anything done. Now with President Trump, and he's doing a

1017
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 6: great job. He's gotten common sense back up here. He's

1018
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 6: working the halls of the Senate trying to get this big,

1019
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 6: beautiful bill across, which it will eventually. But at the

1020
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 6: end of the day, I just looked at it and say,

1021
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 6: you know, to use my ability as the best I

1022
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 6: can and the best for Alabama.

1023
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: Go back and be governor. Alabama is an awesome state.

1024
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: It's a great place. There will be a Senate opening

1025
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: to replace you. It's going to be a Republican. How

1026
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: do you see that race playing out?

1027
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 6: There'll be four or five six people run for it,

1028
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,439
Speaker 6: and they should They all call me, and I said,

1029
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 6: of course, you know, I'm telling y'all, I'm not going

1030
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 6: to endorse anybody. You're on your own until you win

1031
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 6: the primary. And I think that's the right way to

1032
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 6: do it. Just it'll be a free for all. Even

1033
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 6: Bruce Pearl, I've heard his name thrown in there. I

1034
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Speaker 6: don't think at the end of the day, he will

1035
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Speaker 6: do it.

1036
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Speaker 1: I've texted some about him. I love coach Pearl like

1037
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Speaker 1: you do. He's the basketball coach for Auburn for people

1038
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,479
Speaker 1: out there that might not know. And he's been really

1039
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: outspoken because he's been so fired up about the response

1040
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: since October seventh. As a guy who's Jewish, there's just

1041
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: a lot of awfulness that's been happening. Yeah. Yeah, and he.

1042
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Speaker 6: Would be a great politician, But I just I don't

1043
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,439
Speaker 6: think it's time for him. You know, I was retired. Yeah,

1044
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 6: you know, I wasn't still working. I could have been,

1045
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Speaker 6: but I just chose to get out and I worked

1046
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 6: for ESPN for a couple of years and yeah, and

1047
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 6: I said, you know, I'm going to do something for

1048
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 6: American people, the country that gave me so much. And

1049
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 6: so that's the reason I did it. And I think

1050
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 6: if he was retired, he'd be a great senator.

1051
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 1: What should we know about the so called big beautiful Bill.

1052
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: I was just talking with Senator Blackburn. She says she

1053
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: feels like there's a good pathway to get this done

1054
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: by July fourth. I know that's the kind of back

1055
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: of the mind target. Do you feel good about that?

1056
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: What do you hear? Obviously there's been a lot of

1057
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: fireworks all around it as it's gotten closer. What do

1058
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: you see on the floor? Yeah, first of all, we

1059
00:58:58,560 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: have no choice. We've got to get it done.

1060
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Speaker 6: It's got to be passed, and it's got to be

1061
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 6: passed soon because if we don't, twenty two percent of

1062
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 6: everybody's taxes will go up. And and you can just

1063
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 6: you can, you can say enough, you know, for the

1064
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 6: Republican Party after we'd promised all this. Now the other part,

1065
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 6: other than the tax cuts, there's a lot of good

1066
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 6: things in the bill. Now, there's a lot of things.

1067
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 6: It's like, you know, putting lipstick on a pig, you know,

1068
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 6: as a conservative like me, I'd rather not do it.

1069
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Speaker 6: But it's like anything else, Clai, you're not gonna have.

1070
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Speaker 6: It's not gonna be perfect, but we have got to

1071
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 6: get growth in this country. A lot of my cohorts

1072
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 6: are saying it's not enough cuts. Well, at the end

1073
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 6: of the day, we're counting on tariffs and we're counting

1074
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 6: on growth to overcome a lot of the the cuts

1075
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Speaker 6: that's not in the bill. And so it's it's gonna

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Speaker 6: be a fight. You know, Rand Paul, he doesn't like

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Speaker 6: the debt limit five five tree and yeah, none of

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Speaker 6: us do.

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Speaker 1: Uh. But that's not to say you're gonna get there.

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Speaker 1: I said, Ran.

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Speaker 6: You know, President Trump just wants to a point where

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Speaker 6: we don't have to raise it every three months because

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Speaker 6: the Democrats are gonna hold our feet to the fire

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Speaker 6: every time we want do it. Let's just do it

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Speaker 6: all at one time. Everybody's got a reason for doing

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Speaker 6: it or not doing it. Some say there's not enough cuts,

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Speaker 6: but we've got to take care of the people that work.

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Speaker 6: Clay what President Trump and heights one in sixteen and

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Speaker 6: in twenty four was the people that go to work

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Speaker 6: every day and put their nose to the grindstone and

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Speaker 6: barely make enough money to pay for their family and

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Speaker 6: their kids going to school. And they look around going,

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Speaker 6: we've got criminals that don't go with the law. We've

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Speaker 6: got we've got illegals here that are getting food stamps, welfare,

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Speaker 6: free housing.

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Who?

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Speaker 6: Somebody's not standing for us what President Trump is And

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Speaker 6: this bill stands up for the American worker, and that's

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Speaker 6: reading we have to get it done. We have to

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Speaker 6: get it done now and then we can do it another

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Speaker 6: We've got another reconciliation coming, so it's not like we're finished.

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Speaker 6: Let's get this one across the goal line. And there's

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Speaker 6: some things that I want to push a little bit harder,

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Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, I'm gonna vote

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Speaker 6: for because I know how important it is to our country.

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Speaker 1: We had Riley Gaines on the show earlier today. You've

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Speaker 1: done a lot of OutKick shows over the years with her,

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Speaker 1: with her yeah, and a lot of our You know,

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Speaker 1: I can't believe that out kick site that I found

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Speaker 1: it is the only one that we'll say men shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be playing in women's sports in all of sports. You

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Speaker 1: have been working on this, but just as a preliminary

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Speaker 1: you coach for a long time, would you have ever

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Speaker 1: believed that Democrats would make it their party belief system

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Speaker 1: that men who pretend to be women should be able

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Speaker 1: to win women's championships? And for people out there who say,

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Speaker 1: oh it doesn't matter, look California, Washington, and Minnesota. Just

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Speaker 1: in the last week, men have won women's state championships.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is crazy town. Did you see the

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Speaker 1: softball pitcher of course I did, bigger, taller.

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Speaker 6: They couldn't. They couldn't get to swing around, of course,

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01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 6: or it passed them. It is foolishness, yes, And you know,

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Speaker 6: it makes no sense whatsoever. The Democrats don't believe in it,

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Speaker 6: but they push it because they don't have anything else

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Speaker 6: to push, and so they want to keep that group

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Speaker 6: of LBGTQ folks voting for them. And name Fray, Well,

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Speaker 6: if we do this, and we're going to lose that

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Speaker 6: voting base, and that's only really the vote voting base

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Speaker 6: they have, and they really don't have all of them.

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Speaker 6: It's just it makes no sense to me.

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01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 1: Would you have ever believe that was ever going to

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Speaker 1: be an issue? Hoolytically no.

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Speaker 6: And and the other thing is not just participations, it's

1134
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 6: dressing in the same dressing rooms and showers. I mean,

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01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 6: who believes that? Who believes that's right? I mean, it

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01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 6: just makes no sense. And so again it goes back

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01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 6: to their ideology. Uh, you know, these the Democratic Party

1138
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 6: is just it's splintered. You've got the far left that's

1139
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 6: pushing all this, and so you've got the people that

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01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 6: are moderate Democrats are looking going, well, if I don't

1141
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 6: go along with this, I'm not gonna get campaign money

1142
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 6: and I'm gonna be kicked to the curb and I'm

1143
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 6: lose my seat.

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Speaker 1: That's read.

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01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 6: We need term limits, I'm telling you. If we don't,

1146
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 6: we got to do something where people don't have to

1147
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 6: be held hostage by the leadership of their parties. We

1148
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 6: have to have term limits where people can think for

1149
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 6: themselves and vote for their constituents.

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Speaker 1: And look, by the way you're making a choice. You

1151
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: could have stayed in the Senate as long as you

1152
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: wanted to be in the Senate, right, you could have

1153
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 1: been in here for decades. But you have served, and

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01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: now you want to go back to Alabama and be governor.

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Speaker 1: And I'm betting after eight years as governor of Alabama,

1156
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: you'll probably just say, hey, it's time to work on

1157
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Speaker 1: my golf shots more.

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01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would would, I would hope, but yeah, you know,

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Speaker 6: And I've been one of the most outspoken and I'm

1160
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 6: not a politician. Heck, I come up here and look

1161
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 6: around going, hey this, I stand for this, and I'm

1162
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 6: gonna speak out for it. I'm the only one that's

1163
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 6: had a bill on biological boys and men and women's sports,

1164
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 6: and we voted on it three times. I've had it

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01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 6: on the floor three times, and I've not cut one

1166
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 6: Democrat to.

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Speaker 1: Vote for it.

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Speaker 6: I actually lost a Republican the first time we we

1169
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 6: we had that on the floor. So that just no

1170
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 6: common sense up here when it comes a lot of things. Again,

1171
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 6: the Democrats are look, they're searching for an ideology that

1172
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 6: will strike a note with the American people where then

1173
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 6: get re elected. But this nonsense in California right now,

1174
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 6: the nonsense of the girls being beat up, literally beat

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01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 6: up against men in sports. It's a losing.

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Speaker 1: Costs Alabama a lot of people with a lot of

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01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 1: different beliefs. This is this kind of stuff would not

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01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 1: happen in Red states, right even with blue cities, They're

1179
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 1: not going to allow this kind of violence to take place.

1180
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: Did you ever think that it would be necessary to

1181
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 1: just have a legislation to not allow men and women's sports?

1182
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 6: And never dreamed it would even we even be talking

1183
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 6: about it. But if you go back to red and blue,

1184
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 6: you know how sports how important they are in Red states. Yep,

1185
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 6: I'm talking about girls sports and little kids sports and

1186
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 6: in high school and junior high and then and then

1187
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:05,919
Speaker 6: even you know the higher education. It's so important. It's

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01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 6: not that important in blue states. I mean a lot

1189
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 6: of the Democrats up here that they would know difference

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01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 6: between football and basketball. I mean, it's not that important

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01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 6: in their family life. And so alway isn't making a difference,

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01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 6: you know.

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01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 1: It doesn't.

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01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 6: So it's so important to in the state of Alabama

1195
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 6: that you would have an uprising deluxe if you had

1196
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 6: had that pitcher in softball pitching against women, you would,

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01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 6: I mean it would. And then of course you know

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01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 6: the swimming with Riley Gaines and very disappointed in the

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01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 6: gymnasts come out the other day.

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Speaker 1: Yes, on Biles, I couldn't believe it. I could not

1201
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 1: believe what she said.

1202
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Speaker 6: It makes no sense if if you can take the

1203
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 6: top twenty men in the country that could have that

1204
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 6: were competed against her.

1205
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 1: That would probably have beat her. Yeah, true in anything.

1206
01:05:56,880 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 6: And so it's like some of the older of tennis

1207
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 6: players and that of the years have made tons of

1208
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 6: money playing women's sports, and all of a sudden, oh yeah,

1209
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 6: I think this is right. They should be able to participate.

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01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 6: What I mean, you'd have been and also ran it's

1211
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 6: that had happened. So what's happening now is we're going

1212
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 6: to lose little girls. Yeah, we're gonna lose little girls

1213
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 6: because they're gonna look at and parents are going to say,

1214
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 6: there's no reason for you to do that. We're gonna

1215
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 6: have a lot of cheerleaders, is what we're gonna have,

1216
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Speaker 6: because they like to be athletic.

1217
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Speaker 4: Uh.

1218
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Speaker 6: And it's just it's just unfortunate that it's gonna happen.

1219
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 6: But you look at some and some people. You know,

1220
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 6: there are entire teams in high school across the country,

1221
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 6: most on the West Coast. They're all tres trensenders. I

1222
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 6: mean it's over. And everybody said, well it's just a

1223
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 6: few of them. Now it's not a few, and it's

1224
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 6: growing every day.

1225
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Speaker 1: Look, I will say this, and I think I've said

1226
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 1: it on the show, but if I haven't, Blue States,

1227
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 1: the way that we are going, every track and field

1228
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 1: champion will be a man pretending to be a woman. Yeah,

1229
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Speaker 1: I mean that's where we're headed. It's crazy. Congratulations to

1230
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 1: you a year in advance on being a governor. You

1231
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 1: probably don't want to celebrate early. You don't want to

1232
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 1: high step into the end zone. Got to run through

1233
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 1: the end zone. Got to run through the end zone

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01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 1: with the ball still in your hand. But he Senator

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Speaker 1: Tobby Tubberville, soon to be the next governor of Alabama,

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Speaker 1: we got to play. Well, I'm too bad at golf.

1237
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:20,919
Speaker 1: I don't want to subject you to that. But we'll

1238
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 1: be crossing paths. Uh maybe at July fourth and beyond

1239
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 1: down on the thirty A and in the Gulf Shores area.

1240
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Speaker 1: That's the best beaches in America. A lot of people

1241
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 1: don't know Alabama's got some of the best beaches in America.

1242
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, Alabama. At Orange Beach, they just they're starting a

1243
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 6: three hundred million dollar project Margaritaville. Oh yeah, it's and

1244
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 6: you know, it's really growing. I mean it's beautiful.

1245
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 1: If you haven't been, they don't want me to say

1246
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 1: it because a Golf Shores, Orange Beach all the way

1247
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 1: down through there. But you've had a few drinks before

1248
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 1: at the floor Obama right there on the it's one

1249
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 1: of the most iconic balls.

1250
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Speaker 6: Throughout the first mullet when you know the mullet toss

1251
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 6: pink Pony Ken Stebler, commasy coach, I need you, and

1252
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 6: it's like throwing out the first pitch. People don't a

1253
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 6: mullet is a fish, folks. Yeah, but you throw a

1254
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 6: fish and you whoever has the father's throw in the

1255
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 6: competition wins. So they wanted me to come down and

1256
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 6: throughout the first mother at that I thought that was awesome.

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Speaker 1: That is that is a really mullet toss, A big

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01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 1: thing that happens down to Flora, Bbama. And if you're

1259
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Speaker 1: wondering what in the world floor Bama, that's where Florida

1260
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 1: and Alabama meet. Literally the bar is on the state

1261
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Speaker 1: line Florida, Alabama, beautiful beaches. Senators soon to be Governor

1262
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Speaker 1: Tommy Tubberville, appreciate you coming in studio with us here. Thank.

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