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Speaker 1: This episode contains sensitive topics. Listener discretion is a vice?

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Speaker 1: What's up professional Homegirls's shagirl ebine here? And I hope

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Speaker 1: Aull is cute. Now we're gonna throw it back to

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Speaker 1: one of the most unforgettable conversations I ever had with

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Speaker 1: a survivor of the Pulse Nightclub shooting on June twelfth,

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. A devastating act of violence forever changed the

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Speaker 1: lives of so many when forty nine people were killed

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Speaker 1: and dozens more would injure at Pulse Nightclub in Orlando.

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Speaker 1: It remains one of the most deadliest mass shootings in

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Speaker 1: the US history. With the anniversary of this approaching, I

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Speaker 1: felt it was very important to honor the lives, laws,

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Speaker 1: acknowledge the enduring impact on those affected, and also just

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Speaker 1: amplify the voice of a survivor who could tell he

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Speaker 1: used to embody, shrimp and resilience and shout out to her,

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Speaker 1: y'all because she is now a whole married woman. She's

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Speaker 1: been on a lot of different shows not only talking

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Speaker 1: about her being a savinry but just talking about her

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Speaker 1: amazing love story. And when I think about this episode,

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Speaker 1: because I'm you know, we a on a little hiatus

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Speaker 1: until season three come and I was just going through

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Speaker 1: my catalog and I was just like, you know, which

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Speaker 1: episode can come out for this week's conversation. And I

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Speaker 1: was saying, well, it makes sense for this to come

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Speaker 1: out because the anniversary is approaching.

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Speaker 2: But also I was just like, wow, like I've.

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Speaker 1: Been recording for a very long time, y'all, Like I've

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Speaker 1: been at this for seven years. And I recorded this

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Speaker 1: conversation in the middle of the pandemic in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: and I remember exactly where I was at. I was

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Speaker 1: at my homegirl's house in Tennessee, in Nashville, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I was just so excited about this conversation. You know,

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Speaker 1: I really wanted to show that I had ranged when

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Speaker 1: it came to storytelling and just covering different topics. And y'all,

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Speaker 1: I remember calling every body and day Mama asking for

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Speaker 1: feedback on my questions. So let me know what y'all

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Speaker 1: think about this week's episode, and let me know if

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Speaker 1: y'all see some growth, okay, because like I said, we've

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Speaker 1: been at this for almost seven years, so you gotta.

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Speaker 2: See some growth. Somewhere child.

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Speaker 1: This is when I was independent. I was hustling. I

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Speaker 1: was just like just getting interviews and just researching like crazy.

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Speaker 1: So get ready, y'all, because I survived the Pulse nightclub shooting.

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Speaker 1: Starts now.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for sharing your story being a

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Speaker 3: survivor for one of the most daily shootings in the

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Speaker 3: United States history, the Pulse nightclub shooting at Kurring in Orlando, Florida,

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Speaker 3: on June eleventh.

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Speaker 2: Twenty sixteen. Yeah, it's actually June twelve, Oh, June twelve, twelve.

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Speaker 2: The shooting happened at one pm, am, am im.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, cause I was like it was from like two

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Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning, like, oh yeah, six o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Day. By the time they got us out of there,

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Speaker 2: it was like six am. Six am. Well, when I

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Speaker 2: like a lockdown. So like what happened was is like, okay,

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Speaker 2: that's down, uh huh. Let's start from the beginning.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So so you're up in Philly, Yes, so what

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Speaker 3: made you your cousin and your best friend go to Florida.

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Speaker 3: So it was actually it was a vacation so like

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Speaker 3: like my family does this like annual vacation thing every year,

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Speaker 3: And so what ended up happening was, like, you know,

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Speaker 2: It's an easy vacation. And my cousin was actually she

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Speaker 2: so we were like, oh yeah, we're going on a vacation

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Speaker 2: So we just decided to go on do our regular

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Speaker 2: Y'all was like grown. So yeah, yeah, so now we're grown,

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Speaker 2: So I actually invited my old friend to come onto

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Speaker 3: But I was gonna ask you, so this is I

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Speaker 3: understand if y'all want to have like a family get together,

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Speaker 3: because also she was your cousin was going away for college.

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Speaker 3: So this is probably the last one that y'all was

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Speaker 4: Yep, before everybody go their separate ways.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yep. So did you hear.

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Speaker 4: About Plus nightclub before or this was your first time going?

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Speaker 2: It was our first time going. So what happened? We

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Speaker 2: were down there, we did our we got there. I

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Speaker 2: forty eight hours. But I think when we got down there,

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Speaker 2: we were like, hey, let's it was like our first day,

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Speaker 2: were just like, yo, let's want something to do. My

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Speaker 2: cousin was like, let's want something to do. I said,

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Speaker 2: we gotta do something. We on vacation. This is Tiara, Sorry,

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Speaker 2: you know what, You're right. So we was my cousin

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Speaker 2: up coming across the club. My cousin was like, you listen,

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Speaker 2: we went to the clubs over at home, we always

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Speaker 2: we got there. We didn't know that it was a

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Speaker 2: the best loves though they are the best clubs. I tried,

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Speaker 2: looking cute but just want to sit there. I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I didn't come and spend this money to get into

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Speaker 2: pay this cover charge. They come sit in the corner

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Speaker 2: you know, we like to dance all swept my hair around,

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Speaker 2: So my cousin's like, oh, let's go here. They got

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Speaker 2: so it was like we ran in there, but they,

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Speaker 2: the door was just like, you guys are so pretty,

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Speaker 2: we told them, we was like we actually are we

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Speaker 2: an event that night. We didn't know it was like

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Speaker 2: So when she got the plus one ticket, we actually

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Speaker 2: how we got there. We danced for her for a

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Speaker 2: went her separatesse I think she ran into somebody in

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Speaker 4: Right, So when y'all were there, I was having fun, Like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a freaking blessed because I think I

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Speaker 4: It was like mad people there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so that night was in the terms,

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Speaker 2: think they had j Loo there that night. And yes,

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Speaker 2: Like they had all of that playing. So it was

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Speaker 2: literally like a fabulous night, Like we had an awesome, awesome,

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Speaker 3: So then two hours later y'all decided to leave and

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Speaker 3: you did the hoober what happened between or after that time?

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Speaker 2: So what ended up happening was my old friend she

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Speaker 2: had came up to me and asked me, if you know,

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Speaker 2: how will we get home? I said, well, I was

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Speaker 2: So it was about thirty bucks. I wasn't complaining. We

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Speaker 3: And then at this point, you, your cousin, and your

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Speaker 2: was like, who phone is that? But he's like, it's

432
00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,000
Speaker 2: something out there, so fast, that's out there. It was

433
00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,760
Speaker 2: out there, So we were trying not to make him mad.

434
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,240
Speaker 2: At him what he was. But you can hear that

435
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 2: his gun, the gun that he originally came in with,

436
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,879
Speaker 2: was completely jammed, so you hear him wrestling with it

437
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,760
Speaker 2: trying to get it on Jam. I mean the gun

438
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,439
Speaker 2: was completely broken at this point because he was really

439
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 2: fighting with it and he couldn't get it on Jam.

440
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,679
Speaker 2: And it was it was a situation and like, you know,

441
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,159
Speaker 2: being in there and like I'm I remember grabbing my

442
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 2: old friend's leg and like you know, trying to make

443
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,120
Speaker 2: sure she was okay, and I think I grabbed too

444
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 2: hard and it was hurting, so she just put her

445
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,920
Speaker 2: hand up like I'm okay. And I remember looking over

446
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 2: at a young man who I believe his name was Tevin.

447
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 2: He was like, you know, because the guy tried to

448
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 2: come through the stall, doing the craziest thing I could

449
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 2: have done was putting my hand up and slamming the

450
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 2: door shut. I don't know why or what made me

451
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,439
Speaker 2: do that, but I just was tiring of him coming

452
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 2: in and out of that bathroom, so I just slammed

453
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,440
Speaker 2: the bathroom door shut. And the guy remember him looking

454
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 2: at me and saying good job or whatever. And then

455
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 2: after that, you know, that was really it for everybody

456
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,360
Speaker 2: in the store. We was in there for so long,

457
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 2: people fell asleep, they was snoring. What, yes, it was

458
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 2: it was real, like that's how long we were in there.

459
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,639
Speaker 2: And he didn't do anything. He didn't do anything. He

460
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,119
Speaker 2: just sat there in the bathroom. He was on the

461
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 2: phone with the police officers. They was trying to negotiate

462
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,439
Speaker 2: with him. He didn't have him on speaker, but he

463
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 2: was telling, you know, you got to stop bothering my

464
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 2: country and Iraq and all this other stuff. And like

465
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,919
Speaker 2: we were like, oh wow, like this man, should you

466
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,160
Speaker 2: specifically come to a gate club to prove that point?

467
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 2: Like you know it like none of that you think

468
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 2: about it in hindsight, Like you came alway to a

469
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 2: gate club to do that. So it was we found

470
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 2: out later.

471
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 3: Was yeah, because I heard during some research and he

472
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,640
Speaker 3: was going to the club frequently.

473
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a frequent visitor. We heard that too.

474
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 2: We don't know how true that is. We don't live there.

475
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 2: So yeah, so like when we heard that, I was like,

476
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised because specifically he came on this name.

477
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 2: So but he's also but they said there's all people

478
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 2: some of the like the club goers would say, like,

479
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 2: you know, they they've seen him visit the club before.

480
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 2: This isn't his first rodeo there. Yes, too, Yeah, so

481
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 2: like you know, I again we don't know because we

482
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 2: don't live there. But we also as we was doing

483
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,640
Speaker 2: research as like you know, we got better than didn't

484
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 2: like him, but the story, you know, we started to

485
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 2: look into like why, like what made him do this?

486
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 2: And he was you know, they were saying like his

487
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 2: family had a problem with other people. They were saying

488
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 2: that he was gay himself. It was under cover and

489
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 2: like a whole it was like a whole thing. But again,

490
00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 2: we don't know that to be true. We don't know

491
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 2: this man. We was just there on a whim and

492
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 2: got hurt. Like that's what that was for us. We

493
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 2: just wanted trying to understand how did this occur. The

494
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 2: sad thing about this entire process is my cousin. Even

495
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 2: though she was a basketball like phenomenon, like she was amazing,

496
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 2: like you know, even though that was her thing, she

497
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 2: also was going to school for criminology and she wanted

498
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 2: to study while criminals do the things that they do,

499
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 2: and she god doing that like not being able to

500
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 2: do that, well, I want.

501
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 3: To touch on this part because I noticed you said

502
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 3: that your cousin was on top of you and you

503
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 3: were saying, how like you felt her.

504
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 2: Weight getting heavy? Yeah, so that was a wo So

505
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 2: what ended that happening was my cousin was saying her

506
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 2: back for her, she wanted to move. I told her now.

507
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 2: She wanted to get up, and I kept telling her now,

508
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 2: but she was like my back hood and I said,

509
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 2: if you move, you gotta be crazy quiet like you.

510
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 2: It's gotta be you gotta I don't even want to

511
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 2: hear you. You gotta be crazy quiet. We was laying

512
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 2: by this point, we was laying in like a blood everywhere.

513
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 2: The bathroom was completely black and red, and I abagine

514
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,959
Speaker 2: y'all body hurting because y'all was in the bathroom for

515
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 2: a couple of hours. Believe it or not, we didn't

516
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 2: feel anything at this point. If he just came and

517
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 2: shot us again, like you know, for me, if he

518
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 2: came and shot me again, I wouldn't have felt it.

519
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 2: That's how That's how long we've been sitting there. So

520
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 2: what ended up occurring at that point, so my cousin

521
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 2: she got on my back. I let her get switched

522
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 2: positions on my back and she laying on top of me,

523
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 2: so I told her to be really quiet. I remember

524
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 2: reaching back and grabbing her and she kept tapping me like,

525
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 2: you know, I'm all right, I'm good. So like my

526
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 2: hand stayed back there most of the time to hold

527
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 2: her because I just wanted to make sure she was

528
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 2: sitting where she was at. So and I'm just like,

529
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 2: you know, not being able to move because we done

530
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 2: stayed in this one position and there was actually and

531
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 2: part of the reason why my lads fell asleep was

532
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 2: that there was a lady that was behind me who

533
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 2: was on my legs, and that was part of me

534
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 2: a while they were sleep on top of the fact

535
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 2: that the bullet then probably paralyzed me for that moment. So,

536
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 2: but there's somebody else that was laying on top of me,

537
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 2: and I remember reaching back and grabbing my cousin and

538
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 2: just kept taking her with you. She was okay, yeah,

539
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 2: So then I remember because now at this point it's

540
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 2: just me laying in front of the stall. So you

541
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 2: know how like when you go into some most coetheric bathrooms,

542
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 2: like they had the stall, you could just see people's feet.

543
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: You could see him pacing back and forth in the bathroom,

544
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 2: just pacing trying to get the gun on jam. Then

545
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 2: he would stop doing that for a minute, then he

546
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 2: would do it again, and it was just a bunch

547
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 2: of weird stuff. So uh and when asked he was

548
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 2: doing that, he I remember him looking down and he

549
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 2: just looked under the stall and he laughed, like you know,

550
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 2: he kind of chuckled a little bit and he was like,

551
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 2: oh yeah, like as if this was something that he

552
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 2: was used to doing. So that's scary. Yeah. So like

553
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 2: him looking didn't me dead in my face, mom My.

554
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 2: My reaction was to sit there and play dead like

555
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,479
Speaker 2: I died with my eyes open like that. I just

556
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 2: didn't move at it. Blank. I didn't even breathe because

557
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 2: like the fear was he was gonna shoot me in

558
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 2: my face, like yeah, you know, I just had to

559
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 2: sit there, and you know he just was like oh yeah,

560
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 2: And it just it's definitely a situation that again, like

561
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 2: I said, na, shit, everyday person, this is something you

562
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 2: were seeing a movie, like a scary movie or like

563
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: something like that. This this was never something to.

564
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 3: But I couldn't even imagine, like you even you're telling

565
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 3: the story and just thinking about when I was in

566
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 3: my research, I was thinking about when it actually happened.

567
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 3: And when I first heard about it, I was like, yo, like.

568
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 2: This was fucking buck.

569
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 4: I was like, this is scary.

570
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so like I never thought I would ever

571
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 2: like so it's crazy they save your history repeats itself.

572
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 2: My father was shot at twenty twenty one, twenty twenty

573
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 2: twenty one in his stomach, and you were shutting your

574
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 2: stomach and I was shoting my stomach at twenty So

575
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 2: they were saying, you know, my dad was like this

576
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 2: crazy hout history and teach itself and like you know,

577
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: you always think, like you know, this would never happened

578
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 2: to me. I would never have to be a person

579
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 2: telling this story and you know, having to share my

580
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: story and just understand my clip, like you know, understand

581
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: that this is something that's a part of my life

582
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: and it doesn't make my life right. So it was

583
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: either sit in one space or don't or do or

584
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 2: you sitting on fava doll and I chose not to because,

585
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 2: like I went through, it was a whirl winning after

586
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: that situation, it wasn't just post itself. So it ended

587
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 2: up being a situation where I was being blamed for

588
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 2: my cousin's dad.

589
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 3: I know, yeah, that was that was kind of messed up.

590
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 3: But before we go, I don want to ask you

591
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 3: one more question about the standoff because I know that

592
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 3: the shooter and the police were standing off for like

593
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 3: three three hours and then eventually they killed them.

594
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 2: Yes, so it wasn't three hours. It was a few minutes,

595
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 2: like yeah, three out three because that's how how long

596
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 2: it was, Yeah, before the police came in. So what

597
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: happened was we as we're laying there, it's like crazy quiet,

598
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 2: like you can hear pen mice, everything, anything that would

599
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 2: hit that floor, you can hear it and it would

600
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 2: vibrate through the whole floor because that's how quiet it was.

601
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 2: So what happened was we hear these bombs go off.

602
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 2: Now you hear these like explosions, so you're like whoa,

603
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 2: Like at this point, you hear people like, oh my god,

604
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 2: Like you hear the heavy breathing. Now you hear it

605
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 2: like it's a lot. So you hear this explosion and

606
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: then you hear a second one and it gets much closer.

607
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: So now we are extremely scared because we don't know

608
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 2: where is this coming from. Right now, this man was

609
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: definitely in the bathroom when he was on the phone

610
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 2: with the police officers talking about how he had enough

611
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: explosives to light a city block. So we were thinking

612
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 2: he detonated these bombs, but were I quickly realized it

613
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: wasn't him because he started to run around like he

614
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: was in frantic inside of the bathroom. So what happened

615
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: was he before they let off that third explosion. You

616
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: hear them say after the second one, you know, anybody

617
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 2: who can hear this or hear us, please get close

618
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 2: to the wall. And anybody who could hear move, see,

619
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: breathe anything you heard him move, get it because close

620
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 2: to the walls you possibly can, because that's how they

621
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: were coming into the building. Well, that third explosion just

622
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: so happened to be our bathrooms though, and the third explosion.

623
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: When that third explosion came, you see him run straight

624
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: into the bathroom with us. What he ran straight into

625
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 2: the bathroom with us, And what happened was he I

626
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: don't like this part. This part is where it gets

627
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: really touchy, because it's like, you know, I was in

628
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 2: disbelief for a long time. So somebody must have moved

629
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: in the store, and you heard him say hey you

630
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: and he shoot three more times. This is the part

631
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: where you're asking me about my cousin's body getting heavy.

632
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 2: That was that moment. So in my mind, he didn't

633
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 2: shoot her. I think she passed out, but I know

634
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: he shot three more times, but my mind is done

635
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: doing something else. He didn't shoot her, like she was

636
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 2: alive with me the whole time. When after he shot

637
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 2: and killed her, that explosion happened and he came running

638
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: out of the store with him and the cops started

639
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 2: getting it, engaging into the fire like the whole like

640
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 2: you know, back and forth, And at that moment, it

641
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 2: was just like wow, you know what I mean, because

642
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: now it's bullets ricocheton off of places and you're getting

643
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: burn We're right there, I'm saying, burnt up. The bullets

644
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: is flying, skinting my skin and it hurt, like you know,

645
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: I'm trying to hide my arms and stuff, trying to

646
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 2: from getting burnt because I'm feeling that they're hot. So

647
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: after that, after you hear her that, you hear him

648
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: yell like he's down, he's bangs down. They come and

649
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: they start pulling people out the stall. I remember hearing

650
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: my old friends screaming to the top of her lungs

651
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 2: because they had to snatch her up, and because obviously

652
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: she can't walk, she just no longer has a knee,

653
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: so you know, they snatched her right up and they

654
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: put her they pulled her out of the stall. I pulled.

655
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 2: I pulled myself off the floor because they wanted us

656
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: to put her hands up. I pulled myself off the floor,

657
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: and I flipped my cousin around because I just kept saying, God,

658
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 2: you're gonna give me the strength to get off this floor.

659
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: And I got up and I pulled my cousin up

660
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: because now the bathroom the pipe bust and so now

661
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 2: the floor is feeling up. So I flipped her up

662
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 2: and picked her head up, and I'm shaking there, like care,

663
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: please get up, get up, get up there here, we

664
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 2: can leave, we can leave it. Get up. And she's

665
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 2: breathing still. And the guy that was sitting in front

666
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 2: of me, who is who's name is uh Richard Athen

667
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 2: He he was like, calmed down, calm down. He was

668
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: so calm it was freaky crazy. But he's been in

669
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: that stall the whole time with us, and he was

670
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 2: never shot. So he was like calm down, Calm down.

671
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 2: He was like, she's still breathing. It's okay, she's still breathing.

672
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: So in my mind, I'm the happiest person because I'm like, oh,

673
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: she's breathing. But I need you her to respond to me, right,

674
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 2: So I'm pulling her and I said, you know. They

675
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 2: were like, can you get up? And I'm like no,

676
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 2: but can you take them? Please take my sister, because

677
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 2: that's what I kept saying that night, Please take my sister.

678
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 2: Please take my sister. Thinking in my mind, if I

679
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: tell him that this is my sibling, they move quicker,

680
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: even though it's it's still my blood relative, Like you know,

681
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 2: if I figure if I say that like as much,

682
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 2: they will understand. So I'm trying to get them to

683
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 2: respond to me, like, you know, please take my sister,

684
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 2: like we're gonna get her. And I'm pulling her because

685
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 2: I'm not letting her go. So they had to like

686
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 2: try me off of her in order for me to

687
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 2: come off the wall. So they pulled me out of

688
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 2: the wall. I remember them having to lift my legs

689
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 2: because I physically couldn't move them. I remember them pulling

690
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 2: me out of the wall, lifting my legs and what

691
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 2: happened was that thing. After they pulled my legs out

692
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: of the wall, I kept telling them my phone dropped

693
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,959
Speaker 2: out of my bra because I had my phone, my ID,

694
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: everything in my bro said please get my phone, get

695
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: my phone, and it felt it was like we'll get it,

696
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: we'll get it. And I turned I said, please get

697
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: my sister. I kept trying to turn around, and then

698
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,959
Speaker 2: I remember them pulling my arms like they were kind

699
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 2: of dragging me a bit because I couldn't walk, and

700
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 2: I said I'm going to pass out. I said I'm

701
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 2: going to pass out. They were like, oh no, no,

702
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 2: you can't pass out on the Please don't pass out

703
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 2: on it. And I remember just closing my eyes for

704
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: that quick moment and falling out and like they were

705
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: carrying me. They had to sling me. So now they

706
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 2: slung me onto a pickup truck. And when they did that,

707
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 2: it was like I instantly like jumped back out of

708
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: it and I'm just like get my sister. And I

709
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 2: tried to climb over the truck as it was moving.

710
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 2: They're like, no, you can't do that, and like you

711
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: got people in the back trying to grab me, and

712
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: I'm like get off me, get my system, so and

713
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,239
Speaker 2: like I'm trying to like climb off the truck. So

714
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 2: then the truck gets gets us to wherever we ended

715
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 2: up at. I don't even remember where we were going

716
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 2: to the club now. I still couldn't tell you what

717
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,959
Speaker 2: street they turned down to put us where. I don't

718
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 2: know where I was at. I just remember them pulling

719
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 2: this out, and I remember seeing camera people outside. They

720
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: cut all my clothes off outside because they were trying

721
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 2: to figure out where all my bleeding was coming from.

722
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 2: So like they cut pants. I saw white pants and

723
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 2: I was like, my god, yeah, they were pristine white,

724
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 2: like a pure white hair pants. They were no longer

725
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 2: white that moment. So they cut all my clothes off outside,

726
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 2: and I remember seeing the camera people and I said,

727
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 2: tell them to stop the cording. This is not a

728
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: recording moment, like, and they were like, you know, you

729
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: can see the police run over there and try to

730
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 2: get them like enough wasn't enoughing. You know, they were newspeople,

731
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 2: so you can see them trying to stop them from

732
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 2: recording the chaos. And I remember them pulling me into

733
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 2: the thing and I I just kept saying, please give

734
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 2: my sister. Please get my sister, Please get my sister.

735
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: That's all I kept saying, like this it that's all

736
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 2: I can say. Please get my sister. I was like,

737
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: I hear one of my sisters, she's screaming, which they had.

738
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: She was on the other side, and I remember that

739
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 2: I never saw her, but I knew who it was.

740
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 2: They had my old friend at the time. I knew

741
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 2: who it was because I'm like, that's one of them.

742
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 2: Where's the other one. I need the other one. I

743
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: need the other one. They're like, we're gonna get her.

744
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 2: They're gonna get her, and you could just see like

745
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 2: the hurt and like the ant's faces because it was

746
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 2: just like them looking at me, and I'm just like please,

747
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 2: and I'm like I'm grabbing them like please, like I can't.

748
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: I don't know what to do.

749
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 4: And do you think at that moment that you knew

750
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 4: that she didn't make it?

751
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 2: No, Nope. You know what what secured that for me

752
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 2: was when they called and said they found her and

753
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 2: she was the corner's office or the the more Yeah,

754
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 2: the corners off. Yeah, that that's when I figured her.

755
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 2: They figured that out. But that's but I still didn't

756
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 2: believe it then because it was like, we can't find her.

757
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 2: And I told them people in the hospital that if

758
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 2: y'all didn't find her, I was gonna get up and

759
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 2: do it myself because I felt like they didn't know

760
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 2: what they were doing. So I went to try to

761
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: get up. You had to see how they bun mushed

762
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 2: into this room to stop me from getting out of

763
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 2: his bed. So and I'm just like, y'all not moving

764
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 2: fast enough for me, Like y'all telling me that the

765
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 2: girl's dead. This is fool, this is cool. So this

766
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 2: whole process was just you know, I get in there,

767
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 2: and then after sitting in this this this room for hours, hours,

768
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 2: I mean hours on end, I had to lay flat.

769
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 2: They didn't allow me to stand up. They didn't allow

770
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 2: me to do anything. They didn't want me to sit straight,

771
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: like to sit up on an angle. I had to

772
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: stay flat. So I've been laying there for hours, looking

773
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 2: at the ceiling and like and I remember being poked

774
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 2: a bunch of needles. They sent me through the MRI machine.

775
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 2: That was the first time I ever been in them.

776
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: That was the first time I ever been in one

777
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 2: of those. And they they they kept sticking me with

778
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 2: these needles. I remember my there was this needle they

779
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 2: stick you at before they stick you inside of the MRI.

780
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: They were just they just needed to see where the

781
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 2: boom where the bullet wound went, because they knew it

782
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 2: was there. They just needed to see where they were.

783
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 2: And so that's at least that's what they explained to

784
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: me later that in the hospital, like then a line

785
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 2: in the hospital. So after that, I just I finally

786
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 2: got to see my mom and she just sat on

787
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: the bed and I said, all I could ask was

788
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 2: where was they at? There was nothing else to talk about, Like,

789
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 2: I just wanted to know where they were. I could

790
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 2: care less. I was fine. I just wanted to know

791
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 2: where my cousin was and where my old friend at

792
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: the time was. I just wanted to know whe they were.

793
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: I said, they bought her here, but I don't know

794
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: where she is. And my mom was like, I think

795
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: they transferred her to a different hospital. They still hanging

796
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 2: found Care. It was like there or two A day

797
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 2: went by and then that's when we found out Care

798
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 2: didn't make it.

799
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 3: I watched a lot of your interviews, and I mean

800
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 3: this this story. If I touched on your cousin was

801
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 3: really heartbreaking and I felt like you thought you were

802
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 3: responsible for her death?

803
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: I did. Why?

804
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 4: Why is that?

805
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 2: Well, that's what survivor's givet is right. So what it

806
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: was is that I'm like, I shouldn't have let her move.

807
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 2: I should have been I felt like I should have

808
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: did a lot more. Again, I'm from Philly and like

809
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: you mess with me in minds, we have a problem.

810
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 2: M hm. So anybody who knew me knew I was

811
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 2: a firecracker, So like you can't there were certain things,

812
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 2: there were certain limits that you couldn't cross with me

813
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 2: without me blowing up. So it's just like me not

814
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 2: being able to do anything at that moment was a

815
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: lot on me. That was a lot of pressure on me,

816
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 2: and it was something I couldn't sleep and I didn't eat,

817
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 2: I didn't do anything, I didn't go anywhere, Like it

818
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 2: was really there was a lot of pressure on me

819
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: and I had I took that and I guess, you know,

820
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 2: her family was just needed someone to blame. But yeah,

821
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 2: you know, so it didn't make it no better when

822
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 2: they were blaming me for.

823
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 4: Because they stopped talking to you.

824
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, what's the whole story? About that.

825
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: But I'm an digress on that. They didn't just stop

826
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 2: speaking to me. But that was a whole nother process.

827
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 4: Oh wow, that type of process.

828
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 2: It was a whole nother process. They ain't just stopped

829
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 2: freaking to me. Somebody just to give you a piece

830
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 2: of it. Somebody, I guess later down a line, somebody

831
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: bangalized her car, spring painted in red, bust out the window.

832
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: And the instant thing was to blame us. But the

833
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 2: night that that happened, I wasn't even in Philadelphia. Mmm.

834
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 2: So it was a process. But that's just a piece

835
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 2: of it. That's not all of it. I went through

836
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: a World winner thing, and you.

837
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 3: Know, so funny when do I want of interviews and

838
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 3: I don't want touch on your family business because this

839
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 3: is you know, the pri a situation. But I know

840
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 3: I was watching one of the interviews and I can

841
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 3: see how her mom was looking at you, and I

842
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 3: can tell that she felt a way.

843
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody said, everybody said that crazy. And she was

844
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: telling one of her aunts that I don't understand how

845
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 2: she was bitter and she didn't do anything. And then

846
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 2: one of the aunts was around her again from Philly.

847
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: There's a lot more than I know that a lot

848
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 2: of people don't think I would know. But she was

849
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 2: going around telling people around here that she should have

850
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 2: pulled her out of the wall with her and all

851
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 2: this other stuff.

852
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I think people need to also understand and realize,

853
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,919
Speaker 5: like when you're in these type of situations, you don't

854
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 5: know what you're gonna do.

855
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

856
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 3: I need that it's easier for people to be like, well,

857
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 3: I you should you should have did that, but like

858
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 3: when you're.

859
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 2: In that extra moment, you don't know how your.

860
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 3: Abody gonna respond to that ship Like that's a scary

861
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 3: ass situation, you.

862
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.

863
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 3: And I think it was honorable that your cousin came

864
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 3: back to make sure you're good.

865
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 2: Because that was something that we would that I would

866
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 2: have done, But see, there was exactly we would have.

867
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,879
Speaker 2: I wasn't in the right state. That's why I went

868
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: through that process, that TAT virus guilt. That's why I

869
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: went through that because a lot of people didn't know

870
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: that I was in, like, you know, in their type

871
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 2: of state where I'm like, I was just completely confused.

872
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 2: I didn't know. It wasn't like I would have allowed

873
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 2: it to happen to her, And the fact that they

874
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 2: thought that I did showed me how they really felt.

875
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 2: And like I learned down the lot, let it down

876
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 2: the line that it took something like that for me

877
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 2: to understand who they truly were. It took them to

878
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 2: lose their daughter. And like we we don't beef now,

879
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 2: I just don't. We're just not.

880
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:48,919
Speaker 3: We just I don't want to negate the fact because

881
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 3: I understand they lost a daughter and I can't even

882
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 3: imagine because I haven't been in that experience. But I

883
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 3: just didn't like how everything went about. When they was

884
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 3: blaming you for what happened to her daughter.

885
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: Everybody said that. Everybody said, oh, you had to see it.

886
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 2: When when I did the I'm sure you see me

887
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 2: think my life and yeah, so yeah, so when I

888
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 2: put that out there that I was blamed for her death, Yeah,

889
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: I mean that started a whole heap of trouble too.

890
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: You know.

891
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 3: Auntie kept it real and I was like, yes, like,

892
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 3: it's not your fault, you know what I'm saying.

893
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, she said, for giving them for who they may

894
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 2: not know, for who they made, Yeah, they do and

895
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 2: for what they do, and that's what she told me.

896
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 2: There was a lot of stuff that I wish she

897
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: would have put out there on camera, but they had

898
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: to make sure they touched on everyone that was in

899
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 2: that series. So, but it was a lot more that

900
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 2: she told me too, as well as leave them where

901
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 2: they are, yeah, and leave them. And she told me

902
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 2: that and so ended up turning what turned out what

903
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: ended up happening, was that what that was. She also

904
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: she said to me, you just have to you got

905
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 2: you gotta keep you, gotta stay strong and just continue

906
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 2: to go. She said, your cousin loved you, and just

907
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: know that. And like I know that. I knew that.

908
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:09,919
Speaker 2: There was no doubt in my mind that she didn't

909
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: love me. But it was getting so bad. I was

910
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 2: questioning her too, and she's dead and gone and that

911
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 2: and that's the part where a lot of people did

912
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 2: not understand. I was questioning her too, and she's dead

913
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 2: and going.

914
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 3: Right, so and I mean I can only imagine question

915
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 3: of like why you were not me or why did you?

916
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 3: Like Yeah, like it's so good because I be watching

917
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 3: on certain stuff and like doing reaching stuff and like

918
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 3: survivans remorse is a real thing.

919
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: It's a real thing. And when you experience something like that.

920
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 2: Until you experience it, you'll never understand it. It's a

921
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 2: real thing, but you'll never understand that process unless it's

922
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 2: something that you go through. And I'm definitely a product

923
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: of that, Like you never understand until it's you and.

924
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 4: You really be mad that they no longer hear.

925
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was, Oh, I was hordly a set and

926
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 2: it was just like, you know, it was like and

927
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 2: why do I have to go through this? Like what

928
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 2: did I do so bad? But it was all a

929
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 2: part of my journey and I learned that later down

930
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 2: the line. So and but it's just it was just

931
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 2: something that I didn't expect to happen to me. And

932
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is family, This was something that was

933
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 2: supposed to bring us closer to more than anything. That

934
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 2: is not what happened. That is not what happened. And

935
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 2: what with that whole process, it was still like, you know, we,

936
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: like I said, we don't speak today. Nor was me

937
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 2: and my old friend that was good?

938
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 4: Oh I about to ask you that about you and

939
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 4: her still speaking?

940
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: No, we no longer speak.

941
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 4: Is it because of the situation or it's not.

942
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: That situation post was a problem I looked at it

943
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 2: as people get hurt every day, right, it wasn't about

944
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 2: me being shot. It's the stuff that emotionally took place

945
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: after And so with me and her then we had

946
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 2: we already had her issues, but that's what happens, like,

947
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: you know, a girl lives with me, like of course

948
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: you had rocky rolls with everyone, But I said that

949
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 2: girl family, I would never go anywhere. There was the

950
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 2: stuff that she did after the fact that made me

951
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 2: no longer speak to her. We have gotten into a fight,

952
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 2: We went through a lot, and that's just a piece

953
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 2: of everything that I went through with her. She actually

954
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 2: ended up marrying my cousin, my cousin's brother, which was

955
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 2: weird because the whole city, how things took place, and

956
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: what they put me through just to be together. It

957
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 2: was weird. But they won't tell that story, and that's

958
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: the part that makes me want to strangle both of them.

959
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: But you know, it's it's just like, you know, I

960
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: have to move on from this entire situation. So I

961
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: moved forward. Good luck to them and whatever they decide

962
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 2: to do. They could milk this story and whatever they

963
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 2: want to do with it, but I moved on, I

964
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: see where you're going with that. You don't even have

965
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 2: to say much on that part.

966
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what would you like the listeners to know

967
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 3: about your cousin?

968
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 2: She was amazing, right, she she definitely embodied a role model.

969
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 4: That she was really smart.

970
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, she definitely. She was acceptionally start graduated. She was

971
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 2: at the She was number three on our class. She

972
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 2: pretty much got all a's and bees, very very rare

973
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 2: with the bees depending on the time, prame on what

974
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 2: it was about. She definitely got accepted in quite a

975
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 2: few schools. She had a couple of full rides. She

976
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: was definitely on her way to start up. When it

977
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,720
Speaker 2: came to basketball, she was She scored a thousand points,

978
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 2: but she actually because it was some kind of limitation

979
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 2: of scoring a thousand points back then. I'm not sure

980
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 2: how that works. I don't play basketball, So it was

981
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 2: something about they couldn't record that she scored over a

982
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 2: thousand points. She was well over a thousand points, but

983
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: she was a thousand points score, and being a thousand

984
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: point score as a point guard, it was a lot.

985
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 2: So I don't I don't understand how that works, but

986
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 2: that was something that that was she was awarded the

987
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: w n b A recognized her. They gave her so much.

988
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 2: The school gave her a lot, a lot of recognition

989
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: and did articles, so many stories articles, and I can

990
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 2: only like, I can just that's only a piece of

991
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 2: what they've done for her. It was a lie. It

992
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 2: was a lot, and she was an amazing person. And

993
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 2: definitely it's not too many people who genuinely care about people.

994
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 2: And if you do have people that don't even care

995
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 2: about you, will love you for who you are, whether

996
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 2: they blow lated or not. Gold onto. Yeah, telling these niggas.

997
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 3: Now, I'm serious, Like, I don't think people understand the

998
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 3: value of like relationships. Like when you find good people,

999
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 3: you gotta hold on to people because you don't know

1000
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 3: when God's gonna pull that number.

1001
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 4: You don't know what can happen, Like, you really gotta

1002
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 4: value people.

1003
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, And even if y'all have to part race for

1004
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,919
Speaker 2: whatever reason, make sure you leave a glace, don't don't

1005
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 2: leave with the whole Like, oh, we hadn't got into

1006
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 2: a bad falling out. Ain't nothing that bad in the

1007
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 2: wood that you can't resolve. Yeah, And depending on the

1008
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 2: curtains and what it is, have a conversation and get

1009
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 2: it right there. That's it. Don't gonna be forward, just

1010
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 2: keep just move on if that's the case. But at

1011
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 2: least cleaning the air sometimes it is a good thing.

1012
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 2: And I had to do that with my old friend too,

1013
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,439
Speaker 2: like we had to clear the air. But we could

1014
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: never be friends again. I want to see her eat,

1015
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 2: just not at my table with me, especially not writing

1016
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 2: no book about me. That's a bar. But yeah, I

1017
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 2: saw she had a book out too, or she's working

1018
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 2: on a book. Yeah, so you're right, yeah she should up.

1019
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 2: So the whole thing was like her talking about me,

1020
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 2: saying I would spread rumors about it, but not one

1021
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 2: time did she reach out to me. I can show

1022
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 2: you and prove it to you because I don't delete nothing.

1023
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 2: I'm one of them. I would pull a receipt from

1024
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety three and I was born in ninety five,

1025
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: Like that's just me, so and it was just she

1026
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 2: when she did that, it was like, we can't we

1027
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 2: can't hang the fact that you never came to me

1028
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 2: and talk to me as an adult about what was

1029
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 2: going on. We could never again. Like I just said, she,

1030
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 2: I want to see your eat, just not at my table, right,

1031
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 2: And that actually is a bar two pac setting, and

1032
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 2: I choose not to, uh, I choose not to deal

1033
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 2: with it in the light of being like angry, I'm

1034
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 2: gonna move on. Like I definitely say that you already.

1035
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 3: You have to control your tongue when you're certain emotions,

1036
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 3: especially when it comes to anger.

1037
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 2: Because then at one point, I'm like, I was so mad.

1038
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 2: Everybody was about to catch these hands. Everybody they were

1039
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 2: gonna catch more in these hands, and they kept playing

1040
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 2: with me, and that's and that's and that's how I felt.

1041
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 2: But it was like for what my mom taught me

1042
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 2: very well, and she said to me, you can either

1043
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 2: stay here you play this victim roll, or you can

1044
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 2: get up and make something out of it. And that's

1045
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 2: what I did. I can't just stay there.

1046
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 3: Have you been back to the well, I know the

1047
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 3: answer to this, but have you been back to the

1048
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 3: nightclub since the shot?

1049
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yep, I have. They actually flew me out

1050
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 2: there to come back to the Glove so and we

1051
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 2: when I took my god sister with me and she, uh,

1052
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 2: that was her first time because it affected her a

1053
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 2: lot because she was supposed to go on a vacation

1054
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 2: with me. So like she couldn't make it because she

1055
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 2: had already used her time for her honeymoon and all

1056
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 2: this other stuff, and it was like everything was just

1057
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 2: like all over the place. So she didn't go. But

1058
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 2: it was it took a lot out of her, and

1059
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 2: never realized how much it affected other people around me. True,

1060
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 2: I never realized that until I spoke with her. She

1061
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 2: explained it to me for the first time. So I

1062
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 2: was just like, oh, like, I never would have known that,

1063
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 2: because it was I was too focused on trying to

1064
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 2: get myself together, like it, you know, which is fair

1065
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 2: like when you had your own healing that you had

1066
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 2: to go. But they were a part of the healing process.

1067
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 2: So I understood what she meant. But I was just like, still, like,

1068
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 2: you know, I never understood how much it affected me

1069
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 2: until that moment. Is it hard for you to go

1070
00:50:55,880 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 2: out to clubs? Now? No, Okay, I went. We actually

1071
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 2: went to a bar, but now a few months after,

1072
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 2: but no, it was like it was actually almost a

1073
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 2: year later, because it was. It wasn't a few months after.

1074
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 2: It was almost a year later.

1075
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 4: We went to a bar, But.

1076
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 2: That's because my cousin knew the area. She knew he

1077
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 2: knew the people that worked there, he knew what is

1078
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 2: what around that area. So and he said, if you

1079
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: feel uncomfortable, we can go home. I will not be

1080
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 2: mad at you if you want to go home. And

1081
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 2: I said, that's fine. So but we stayed and it

1082
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 2: was his third thing we gave him. Definitely wanted to

1083
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 2: so he could have jine himself. But we definitely had

1084
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 2: a good time.

1085
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 3: So after the shooting, the shooter's wife was acquitted on

1086
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 3: her charges because she stated that she didn't know anything

1087
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 3: about it.

1088
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on that? She's a liar? Ya,

1089
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 2: I've been saying, how did these women not know? They

1090
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 2: seeking with the devil? Yeah? She she claimed she did

1091
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 2: not know what was going on. She claims she did,

1092
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:07,439
Speaker 2: but she's lying. She's lying. She's a liar. She's a liar,

1093
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: a big time a liar. And she tried to pull it.

1094
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 2: I've been abused all my life, victim car and I'm

1095
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 2: just like, but you stayed with him for this long

1096
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 2: and then now all of a sudden, he's and he's

1097
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 2: a deep crap. Now you want to run? And I

1098
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 2: felt like, you know, even if it was a domestic

1099
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 2: violence case, there was no they didn't see any reports

1100
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 2: of that, right, so, and that was the problem for me.

1101
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 2: And they said, they call, they've seen her outside getting

1102
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 2: from a run. She was at the club and she

1103
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 2: caught like they said, they seen her getting into a

1104
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 2: car and leaving. So she's dropped him off. That's what

1105
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 2: we were feeling like. But you know, I'm a digress

1106
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 2: on that situation because I don't know, but she's reaping

1107
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: every part of this. I know she is. She's the

1108
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 2: one to blame because she knew he was going to

1109
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 2: do it. That's the problem. And like, you know, let's

1110
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 2: be real, in the black community, you could charge for

1111
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,240
Speaker 2: going to the store the wrong way. So I'm letting

1112
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 2: you know, you get killed for going to the sky

1113
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 2: all about the Arizona iced tea. But we're gonna leave

1114
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 2: that alone because nobody asked me. So it was just like,

1115
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 2: you know, my whole thing is is that you know,

1116
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 2: people who get up like you know, who are accomplished

1117
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 2: of this and who knew this information and did not

1118
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 2: share it to authorities get locked up for this or

1119
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 2: for much much much smaller and get killed for much

1120
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 2: much more smaller. And the fact that she just was

1121
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 2: this was just dropped. And I think it had everything

1122
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 2: to do with the fact that this club was a

1123
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 2: gay club, and that was the part that did not

1124
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 2: sit well with me and nobody nobody took the time

1125
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 2: to try to see how or they didn't have the

1126
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 2: right people in this case. They didn't had the right

1127
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 2: people in this case, and I felt like nobody used

1128
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 2: their brains when it came to charging this woman when

1129
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 2: it when this went down. So do you feel like

1130
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 2: justice was served? No? No, I don't feel like anything

1131
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 2: was served, right, I feel like we are we we

1132
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 2: got the butt end of the steak. I do I

1133
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 2: feel like we got the bat end of the stake

1134
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 2: Because there was no justice for posts. We had to

1135
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 2: create our own justice. We didn't used That's what I

1136
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 2: had to do, turn my pain into a game. As

1137
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 2: my cousin would say, like you know she she used

1138
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 2: to say that all the time. So I just had

1139
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 2: to use it because it was like, we've got no

1140
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 2: justice for what happened. So, which is how I got

1141
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 2: tied into being a gun violence activist, because there are

1142
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:39,240
Speaker 2: people out here, not just myself, who don't receive justice

1143
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 2: for the things that happened to them.

1144
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 3: What do you think is the message that is being

1145
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 3: sent out to the world when I don't even want

1146
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 3: to say that the killer's name because he I don't

1147
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 3: want to. He doesn't exactly when his wife is free,

1148
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 3: or when the nigga that got shot out the church

1149
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 3: they took him to ask him if he wanted a burger,

1150
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 3: Like what do you think they send it out there to.

1151
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 4: The world about gun violence.

1152
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 2: Privilege is key, right, Privilege is key. That's what they

1153
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 2: send it into the world. Privilege is key you and

1154
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 2: as long as you here or you know, and then

1155
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 2: you can do things like this and get away with it.

1156
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 2: And it's like, you know, it's as small as that,

1157
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:21,919
Speaker 2: Like you know, you can do things and get away

1158
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 2: with it. But you know, there are reasons that this

1159
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 2: is why I feel the way I feel when it

1160
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 2: comes to fighting for justice for us, you know, for

1161
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 2: gun violence and everything else, because this is the type

1162
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 2: of stuff that happens. And like you know, they said,

1163
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 2: the message that they send out to the world is

1164
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 2: that you can do whatever you want, and especially in America,

1165
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 2: anything goes as long as you, you know, don't look

1166
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 2: like anybody who's about a few shapes darker than copper

1167
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 2: or right, So, and that's and that's something that's what

1168
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 2: it's sent out in, you know, especially you know they

1169
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 2: p plan the gay community, so so you know, anybody

1170
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 2: who it does identify with that realm of people, you

1171
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 2: can do what you want.

1172
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,280
Speaker 3: I also saw in one of your interviews that another

1173
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 3: one of your cousins was killed due to dunbyas right

1174
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 3: after the night club shet right yep.

1175
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 2: One month later. Yeah, yet at the end of July

1176
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 2: he was shot and killed. He was shot seven times.

1177
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 4: Seventy seven Oh I mean still damn yeah, yeah.

1178
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 2: So he was shot seven times. It was nothing but

1179
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 2: street beef. And it was really unfortunate because it's like

1180
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 2: I had just saw him a few days before he

1181
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 2: was killed, and I was fussing at him because he

1182
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 2: was on a bike, a motorcycle and fell off the

1183
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 2: darn motorcycle and scratched the spacet. So to see him

1184
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 2: in the casket because he was Muslim, you know, they

1185
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 2: don't do like the whole bombing process or anything like that.

1186
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 2: So when it goes down, you see the gun means

1187
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 2: as is we have one in this space. Yeah, the

1188
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 2: few in his face and the rest was in this.

1189
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 3: Chess m yeah, So what are your thoughts on the NRA,

1190
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 3: especially since you experienced gun violence and just being from

1191
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 3: like we are, from neighborhoods, especially, a lot of my

1192
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 3: listeners are from neighborhoods that a lot of people have guns.

1193
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 2: So what are your thoughts about that. I'm not I'm not.

1194
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 2: I'm still programming, because I do believe at the moment

1195
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:26,919
Speaker 2: that America decided that they wanted to bay the guns,

1196
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 2: let's say that what the thing was really not but

1197
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 2: let's say it with the thing, if America decided that

1198
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 2: they wanted to be and doune or anything like that,

1199
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 2: that we America would be in turmoil because of the

1200
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 2: the stuff that our leaders have bought up. I think

1201
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 2: it's it is definitely a protection because there are some

1202
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 2: some severely crazy people out there, and sometimes, you know,

1203
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 2: the gun is your only option in some cases. I've

1204
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 2: seen people who have been like, you know, tritaising people

1205
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 2: and they still came charging at them with weapons, and

1206
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 2: it's you know, trying not that you don't want to

1207
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 2: kill someone, but you want to stop them in their tracks,

1208
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 2: and you know, just learning to shoot but not to kill.

1209
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 2: You know, you want to if you're gonna shoot the kill.

1210
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 2: That's that's all the behavior that's not that's not street

1211
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 2: behavior here. So it's just like it's it's so weird.

1212
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: It's a weird situation. I am pro gun. However, I

1213
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 2: do believe that the NRA has very They have so

1214
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 2: many like mixing crany is what I'm gonna call them,

1215
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,919
Speaker 2: a lot of loopholes, and I feel like it only

1216
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 2: applies to those with money or those who look like

1217
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 2: the inside of your palms. So it's just like I

1218
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 2: feel like that when it comes down to the NRA

1219
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 2: and some of their rules they're protect they're not there.

1220
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 2: They don't protect the people. At the same time as

1221
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 2: well as it just protects their guns. Friends, they can

1222
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: have their guns, and that's like you know, and they

1223
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 2: they haven't been able to purchase assault rifles that are

1224
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 2: used in war. It's beyond a mess to me. Yeah,

1225
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 2: that's beyond my comprehension. Yeah, And you know, being and

1226
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 2: being a part of a board advisor for an organization

1227
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 2: in DC have had fun where they endorse candidates to

1228
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 2: who fight for our people, especially when it comes to

1229
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 2: gun violence and how they're going to address the NRA.

1230
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 2: And we also we fight to get the right white

1231
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 2: people in office for who deserves the seats to sit in.

1232
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 2: So it's just like, you know, being a part of

1233
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 2: that process and talking to the senators and sharing that

1234
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 2: story with them and understanding like, you know, this man

1235
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 2: killed forty nine people with an assault rife and fifty

1236
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 2: three people with handguns and whatever else you may have had.

1237
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 2: So it's just like there has got to be some limitations.

1238
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 2: There need to be strict background checks, There need to

1239
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 2: be psychological checks. These people need to see therapists before

1240
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 2: they're able to purchase a gun of any kind. I

1241
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 2: don't care if it's a small peace shooter, like you know,

1242
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 2: this is something that that that's not talked about often

1243
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 2: at all. Right, So and that and that's one of

1244
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 2: our biggest issues, like the psychological evaluations. Like some example,

1245
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 2: to shoot it for posts, he has some mental issues

1246
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 2: that they knew he had mental issues that they allowed

1247
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 2: him to purchase these guns. He used to work in

1248
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 2: security as an armed security guard. I read that, and

1249
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 2: this man still was able to purchase How him being

1250
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 2: able to purchase an assault record as using war It's

1251
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 2: completely insane to me.

1252
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's that's beyond so that don't even make sense, Like, no,

1253
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 3: it doesn't, but this is a thing.

1254
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 2: This is this is a thing. So the goal is

1255
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 2: to let's fight for common sence gun reform because obviously

1256
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 2: we all realize that common sense just ain't that kind.

1257
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely not child and I learned that too. So,

1258
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 2: you know, being knowing this information and trying to apply

1259
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 2: it to every little thing that you do, comment sence

1260
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 2: isn't really common but also knowing that you know this

1261
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 2: is this common sense need to be applied to some

1262
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 2: of the most uh big some of the most biggest

1263
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 2: situations that we had faced in our country.

1264
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 4: Now mm hmm, that's not least. What are some steps

1265
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 4: that you took towards your healing.

1266
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 2: I had a village. Yeah, I spent a lot of

1267
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 2: time hitting to reevaluate my subject who I was, because

1268
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 2: I quickly forgot who I was and what I what

1269
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 2: I fought for all my life, listen to not being

1270
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 2: underdog and to not not put myself in situations where

1271
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm gonna be less than or anything

1272
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 2: like that. So I had to remember who I was

1273
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 2: for a second and all, and I've ever done so.

1274
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 2: My whole thing was let me fight to get myself

1275
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:49,439
Speaker 2: out of this. I had the car on that dark

1276
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 2: place and craw out of it. But I got here,

1277
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 2: and it took a village. It took my godsister, her husband,

1278
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 2: her family. It took other extended friends and family that

1279
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 2: I had. It took my family and business well that

1280
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,439
Speaker 2: I actually like to help me, right, that's a fact,

1281
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 2: like to get me through this fascess. So it was

1282
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 2: a lot. But I you know, I remember that makeup

1283
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 2: artistry was my thing. Like I never knew how much

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Speaker 2: I loved it until I got right back to And

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Speaker 2: I got right back to it. In September of that

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Speaker 2: same year, I went up in my I did a

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Speaker 2: fashion show, and I never knew how much I loved

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Speaker 2: my crash until that moment. It's like what I'm in it,

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Speaker 2: Like when I'm doing makeup, I have tunnel vision. There's

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Speaker 2: no I don't see nothing else but that. And I

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Speaker 2: seen your word. You can be the face, thank you,

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Speaker 2: thank you. And I've been doing it since I was

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Speaker 2: actually a makeup artist long before the shooting. I was

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Speaker 2: actually started doing makeup September twenty fifteen. Mm hmm, So

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Speaker 2: those few years later as years Gova I got. I

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Speaker 2: had opportunities work on the amazing projects and things like that.

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Speaker 2: And since then I realized as my healing process was

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Speaker 2: going on, sharing my story was a big part of

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Speaker 2: that and getting in my system. I heard me getting

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Speaker 2: out of my system. You know. I sometimes you trying

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Speaker 2: something so much, you're just like Jesus Christ, right and then,

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Speaker 2: but that helped, It helped, and that it doesn't justify

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Speaker 2: an him, but it held the whole lot. So sharing

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Speaker 2: my story and that's how the Global Ethience Awards was

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Speaker 2: birth I was sitting here in my at my god

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Speaker 2: sister's house and we were having a conversation at like

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Speaker 2: two o'clock at night, and I was like, you know,

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Speaker 2: I want to do something that's really rememberable. And it

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Speaker 2: started out as me talking about my birthday, and I

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Speaker 2: want to think about having a birthday on the Spirit

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Speaker 2: of Philadelphia. Not sure if you're heard yet, but it's

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Speaker 2: a boat here in philadeph culship here in Philadelphia that's

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Speaker 2: on the period of Pennsilanda. And and I was thinking

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Speaker 2: about having a big all white party. I said, no,

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Speaker 2: let's cliche. Everybody does that. Right then I was like,

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Speaker 2: you know, I want to hold okay, So I was like,

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Speaker 2: you know what, how about I do One thing I

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Speaker 2: do want to do is host the gallas. She said, okay,

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Speaker 2: what do you want to host a galla? Poor? I said,

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Speaker 2: what would the gallap before? And I said, well, I

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Speaker 2: want to honor people at this stuff. She said, okay

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Speaker 2: for what I said, you know what, I'm want to

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Speaker 2: honor after this because a lot of times they often

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Speaker 2: are unseen and are noticed. So what happens is, you know,

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Speaker 2: or they're seeing is problem people. Those people you see

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Speaker 2: protesting outside of them buildings or outside of the white

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Speaker 2: like the White House or on the steps of the

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Speaker 2: Senator's office or something like that, Like you know, they

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Speaker 2: get and they're not not noticed all the time, or

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Speaker 2: they're been considered like annoying or pet or pests and

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Speaker 2: things like that. But that's not what it is. These

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Speaker 2: people have sense, they're trying to tell you something. It's

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Speaker 2: crazy that they paid activists more attention now more than

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Speaker 2: ever since the entire Black Lives movement matter kind of

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Speaker 2: illuminated since the killing of George Floyd, even though this

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Speaker 2: has been going on for decades since Lavery, yes, since

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Speaker 2: long long before that, and it's just like you know,

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Speaker 2: since this has been a thing and it's been illuminated,

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Speaker 2: now they're paying more attention to it up. Our goal

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Speaker 2: is to make sure that they get the proper recognition

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Speaker 2: for what they're for. So next year, in June twenty fifth,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, I could officially say that we're hosting

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Speaker 2: a galla to honor those and we already have hot

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Speaker 2: people who are in live for the awards. Because the

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Speaker 2: awards Schtar was actually supposed to take you this takes

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Speaker 2: place this year May third, two thousand and twenty. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: but Keny.

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Speaker 3: Posted because I will love to attend absolutely, Yeah, ken

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Speaker 3: posted for sure. Well, I am super proud of you,

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Speaker 3: like when I'm in Philly because I love going to Philly.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so when I'm in Philly, I'm gonna definitely

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Speaker 3: hit you up so we can meet in person. But like,

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Speaker 3: I know your story is going to like encourage or

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Speaker 3: inspire so many people to keep going.

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I think you're doing amazing things.

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Speaker 4: I know your cousin is proud of you, and I'm

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Speaker 4: just super proud of you.

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Speaker 2: Like, thank you so much. I really appreciate that absolutely,

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Speaker 2: Like you have.

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Speaker 4: People a cheer for you don't even know it, so

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Speaker 4: like just keep going.

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Speaker 2: Thank you to my listeners.

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Speaker 3: If y'all have any questions, comments, or y'all just want

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Speaker 3: to say hey girl. Have you want to know more

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Speaker 3: about my guests, please email me at hello at the

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Speaker 3: pgpodcast dot com And until next time, everyone Later, Lada.

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