1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program. As we bring 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: it to you from NRG Stadium. Mini Camp is underway. 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Mark Vandermaer and John Harris with you. We've got a 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: big show. Jerry Hughes will hear from him. We have 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: more likely to happen stuff coming up. We'll review practice, Johnny. 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: It's great to be out there. It feels like training camp. 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: We'll look good in the battle training camp because the heat. 8 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: But who cares. We're watching football and it's fun. It 9 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: is fun, and you can't ever take that for granted 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: going out there. It was a little longer practice today, 11 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: or at least it felt a little bit longer. They 12 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: did a lot today. And I don't think it's because 13 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: there's a difference between OTAs and Mini Camp. I don't think. 14 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: I think it just happened to be a little bit longer. 15 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: But man, they got a lot, a lot done, a 16 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: lot of red zone stuff, and I I like the 17 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: red zone work. I think red zone work. He gets 18 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: talked about a lot. We gotta be better in the 19 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: red zone. I'm not talking just here, I'm talking everywhere. 20 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: He gets talked about a lot red zone. Red zone. 21 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: Red zone teams are crappy in the red zone and 22 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,959 Speaker 1: it don't work on it. I think more red zone work, 23 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: the better. I think. One of the things that I 24 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: always go back to, remember what Bill O'Brien said to us. 25 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: He told us that Tom Brady told him the red 26 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: zone was the last thing he mastered because it's got 27 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: to be now. Yeah, you have to know, this is 28 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: a defense they're end. This is what they're gonna do. 29 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: This is our scheme on this play. This is where 30 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the ball. I go there, it's 31 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: not there. I look one place and then that's it. 32 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: That's all you have time. That's all you have time 33 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: for it. It's the short game. We talked about this 34 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: with Davis Mills. It's the short game of football. Drive 35 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: for show, putt for dough. And this is putting obviously 36 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: a lot more violent than putting, but this is where 37 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: you make the money because how many teams you see 38 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: move the ball pretty well between the twenties and you 39 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: end up kicking a field goal. You know, if you 40 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: get the ball to the fifteen yard line and fail 41 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: right and fail, that's a thirty three yard field goal, 42 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: and that feels bad when you don't have to settle 43 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: for too many of those. I mean, look, you're not 44 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: gonna slough it off, but you'd rather put the ball 45 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: in the end zone. This just in breaking news, Yes, 46 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: also justin. We spoke with Jerry Hughes out of the 47 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: practice field after today's session at Windy Houston Methodist Training 48 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 1: Center and he likes the way it's going so far 49 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: his time with the Texans. Really excited right now, you know, 50 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: feeling really good. We've had a great attendance so far. 51 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: Guys are coming out ready to work hard and just 52 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: build on what we've been doing this entire spring. So 53 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: when you walk out the door in Energy Stadium, you 54 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: walk across the streets, you have like a second or 55 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,839 Speaker 1: two of remorse when you feel the humidity eighty five 56 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: degrees at eight o'clock in the morning. Oh no, not 57 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: at all, man. I grew up here, been doing this, 58 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: been playing football in this kind of weather. So if anything, 59 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: it's a great warm up before we actually kick practice off. 60 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: What was it like in high school training in the heat? 61 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you have great experience with that here. Oh man, 62 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: it was horrible. It was excruciating, just because back in 63 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: those days we were practicing in the heat of the day. 64 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: You know, Coach Smith is actually throwing us a bone. 65 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: He's got us going early in the morning, so you know, 66 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: we haven't reached our peak, our peak temperature, so you know, 67 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: we get to deal with a nice overcast, a nice 68 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: breeze and makes us a lot more enjoyable. Jerry, I 69 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: love this interview because Fort Bank County is represented amongst 70 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: the three of us, but four Bank County is also 71 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: represented on this team. Jed Anderson, you Ross Blacklock, Fortbank 72 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: County is represented. I feel kind of cool that there 73 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: are that many guys from your school district that are 74 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: here playing together with this team. Yeah, it does, you 75 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: know what I mean. We've always known that we've had 76 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: talent in the school districts, so you know, to actually 77 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: have it here in our home city, you know, it 78 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: just goes to show you how much football, how great football, 79 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: we have out there, you know, on the southwest part 80 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: of town. What do you make of what you've got 81 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: up front? Defensively the guys in the room, Oh, we've 82 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: got a lot of young, hungry guys right now. It's 83 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: just about us, you know, working on our technique, sharpening, 84 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: you know, working with the offensive linement just to kind 85 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: of work out all the kind of cob webson and 86 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: now is just getting used to playing fast and playing 87 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: with each other, which I think we're doing a great 88 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: job right now. You know, Coach always talks about the 89 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: lead line's got to hunt together, and I can see 90 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: us flying around to the ball putting that together. Jerry, 91 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: how much of your game obviously we can see you 92 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: out there physically, but how much of your game mentally 93 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: has got sharper over the years And how often you 94 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: share that with the young guys when they want to 95 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: talk about what they can do to get better. Yeah, 96 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: I mean mentally for me, it's night and day from 97 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: when I first got into the league till now, and 98 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: then it's always letting the young guys know what they 99 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: can do to not only extend their career, but to 100 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: help them play faster on the field. You know, film 101 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: study is a lot of things that people kind of overlook, 102 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: but we still got to do. Even this is here twelve, 103 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: I'm still going over you know, individual practice what we 104 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: do and walk through this and make sure my hands 105 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: and feet are always right. You know, we always talk 106 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: about sharpening arm during this kind of time working on 107 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: technique and this is a great time to do it, 108 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: and only what you can is by watching films. Whenever 109 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: the fellas got questions, though, I try to, you know, 110 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: be very detailed with them, give them as much information 111 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: as I can so they can take that and have 112 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: that to their really to their offer. Jerry, you played 113 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: for two big time Texans f and the Colds and 114 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 1: the Bills. What changed for you when you went to Buffalo? 115 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: Your production went way up. I know you're a good 116 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: player in Indie, but the numbers were really good at 117 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: Buffalo as well. Yeah, you know, I got thrown a 118 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: little bit more into the fire there. I think when 119 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: I first got to Buffalo. I think my snaps increased 120 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: greatly over the first three years that I was in 121 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: Indian And I think with that opportunity, I just wanted 122 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: to make the most of it, and then just didn't 123 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: want that. I wanted to prove the doubters wrong. And 124 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: then I didn't also want to look back and say, 125 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: you know, what I could have should have would have 126 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: did it. So I just went out there and just 127 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: went balls to the walls, you know, just pining my 128 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: ears back and tried to do my best to just 129 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: just lodged that football from whoever was carrying it. Do 130 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: you ever have a moment you're like, coach, I still 131 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: gott it in. I gotta car maybe two don in 132 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: a goal line. Yeah, because you weren't all state running 133 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: back at one point. Do you ever feel like, Coach, 134 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: I can do it just one time? You know, I've 135 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: had two opportunities in the league. I picked up two 136 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: fumbles in scores, so I felt like I've already lived 137 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: that experience, you know, I got. I got two touchdowns, 138 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: the one in Denver two years ago. Really cool. I 139 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: got to, you know, really show the whole running back vision. 140 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: There's a lot of people that died of me didn't 141 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: know it if I still have that ability in there. 142 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: So it was fun. I've had my fun. Now I'm 143 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: enjoying hitting people. I think I think I really liked 144 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: doing that. I've made a name for myself doing that. 145 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna continue being the hammering versus being 146 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: the know How closely do you still follow what's going 147 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: on at TCU with the Big twelve, all the activity 148 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: and everything. Oh man, I'm paying attention daily. Not only 149 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: do I got three young guys here, but then just 150 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: who I've kind of watched their career kind of blossom 151 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: from college stars to in the NFL too. Right now, 152 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: we just all are just locked in. I mean, we 153 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: talked about what's going on. We're excited about how the 154 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: program is moving and you know, being in the Big twelve. 155 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: I know you got a new head coacht, but hopefully 156 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: they can kind of turn that around and get back 157 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: on that winning side. All right, we haven't had horn 158 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: frog drowning or too long. Jet got here about halfway 159 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: through last year. Jared drafted last year. Give us a year, Jerry, 160 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: he's scouting reporting the two horned frogs. And Jared Wallow 161 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: with Jet Anderson oh Man. With Jet, you got straight speed. 162 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: It's someone who you want to see touch the ball 163 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: because it's just electrifyinging what he can do. And with 164 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: Wallow with his brain, with his intellect, not only speaking 165 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: his athleticism really helps him, but him knowing where the 166 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: offense is going to be, how to put himself in position. 167 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: He's communicating with us on the defensive line. And for 168 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: him to be that young and to know all that information, 169 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: you know, you got a special linebacker who's going to 170 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: be doing a lot of great things for us. What 171 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: about Ross? How important is it to remind young guys that, hey, 172 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't happen right away in this league, maybe not 173 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: the first year or two. Not that he's done poorly, 174 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: but he's made plays. I know he wants to do 175 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: even better. Yeah, you know, with him, I tell him, 176 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,239 Speaker 1: this is a grind. This is our career. This isn't 177 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: four years, five years and then you move on to 178 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: the next level. You got to continue to grow year 179 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: in and year out. And so especially with him and 180 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: being on the the line, we get Scott in four 181 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: weeks and go so it's it's important for him to 182 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: understand that you've got to keep changing the game. You 183 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: gotta keep evolving. There's a lot of great guys in 184 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: this link that put a lot of great stuff on film. 185 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: I tell those guys to watch those guys. Whoever it's 186 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: in Sacks. There's nothing wrong with barring the move and 187 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: going out there and trying it out, I think. But 188 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: the great thing about being in his room, I'm always 189 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: in his ear and I see him listening, and then 190 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: when we come out here, I see that lightbulb go 191 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: off and he's able to kind of turn it on. 192 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: So I'm excited for those guys. I'm excited for him 193 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: just because he's another four man guy who I know 194 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: can just race hell on this football field. Jerry, you 195 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: got about a six week break coming up for veterans. 196 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: You guys know how to handle that. Young guys, hey 197 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: like all over the money in their pocket now, maybe 198 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: worry about them a little bit. How do you kind 199 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,599 Speaker 1: of handle that break for yourself and how do you 200 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: kind of advise young beards? Hey man, you can't get 201 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: too far away from this whole thing. No good, It's 202 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: great that you ask that. It's a lot of guys 203 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: have been asking me, you know, hey, old head, old 204 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: school whatever they want to call me. You know, what 205 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: do I normally do during this time? And I say, 206 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: you know, I take about a week off just to 207 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: kind of reset my mind with I'm always in my playbook, 208 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: you know, like like that one fundamental just being staying 209 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,119 Speaker 1: connected to football, just because it's it's a short turnaround 210 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: from when training camp starts, so you kind of want 211 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: to give yourself a little bit of a mental break 212 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: by not being in the business kield him physically, but 213 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: still being able to kind of pick up that playbook, 214 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: keep the calls fresh on your mind, so that way 215 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't be come back day warned. We're not losing any ground. 216 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: We're always gaming. Jerry tacks to the time. That's the luck. 217 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: Thank you, Johnny. It feels like you and Jerry have 218 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: known each other for a long time, and I don't 219 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: think you really have, but you guys have a chemistry 220 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: about you. We met in two thousand and nine at 221 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: the Rotary Lombardi Award. Okay, it was Jerry Hughes, Terrence Cody, 222 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: mount Cody from Alabama, some guy named Dominican Sue I 223 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 1: remember him, and another guy ly familiar. You might have 224 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: heard of, Gerald McCoy vaguely. So those were the four 225 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: finalists of the two thousand and nine Rotary Lombardi Award. 226 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: And so they wanted to do a breakfast, and they 227 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: wanted McClain and I to do you know, this breakfast 228 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: kind of back and forth. And so at some point 229 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: I was like, you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna 230 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: paull some either or questions. So I did. I pulled 231 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: out some either ors for the guys to have to answer, 232 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: and they had a good time doing it. And so 233 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: the other day in practice. I said, Area, I said, 234 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: I know you won't remember me. I said, but when 235 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: you did when you were up for the Rotory Lombardi 236 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: Ward two thousand and nine. We had a breakfast in 237 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: the morning. I could see his eyes go like, that 238 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: was you. I was like, yes, that was me. I yeah, 239 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: we did the either or questions. Yeah yeah, he goes, 240 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: I remember that, And so we chatted for a little 241 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: while and we just talked and caught up. My dad 242 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: coached against him when he was a running back, so 243 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: that's why, you know, we asked about and joked with 244 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: him about running back. My dad had told me back 245 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: in cash four or five, he kept telling me about 246 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: this running back that went to Austin High School over 247 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: in the four pend district. He's like, here's running backs good. 248 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: It's running backs really good. And so where's he going. 249 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: He's gonna TCU. I was not back in Houston yet, 250 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: he's going to TCU. So when I got back home 251 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 1: and watched a TCU game, he's like, there is that's 252 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: him right there, Like Dad, this guy's the defensive and 253 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: he goes, oh, yeah, they moved him. And then he 254 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: becomes one of the best defensive ends in college football. 255 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: He was a finalist for the Rory and Barty Word 256 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: All American, All that, and so I had a chance 257 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: to share this story. What I remember about nine, though, 258 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: was he was he was a little shy. I mean, 259 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 1: he was, you know, into it, but you could tell 260 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: he was a little kind of shy and quiet. Twelve 261 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: years in the league will do it, man, You kind 262 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: of shine. He's not shy anymore. He kind of branched 263 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: out and and he's I'm glad he's here, and I 264 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: think having him as a resource for younger players as massive. 265 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: And I'm glad you asked him about Ross because he 266 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: remember him saying three TCU guys, and I was asking 267 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: him the question about Willow because I saw Garrett, and 268 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: I thought of Jack because we had talked about Jed Anderson, 269 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, who's the third guy, And then 270 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: you asked him about Ross. I'm glad you followed up 271 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: with Ross because I think having Jerry there, although Ross 272 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: and Jerry didn't cross passing college, having on TCU, just 273 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: being of that TCU family, I think there's always something 274 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: special there. And so hopefully along the way Ross understands 275 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: as do the entirety fits a line. That line understands. 276 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes is there, He's a resource. Use him, Malie 277 00:11:55,720 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: Collins resource, use him, Mary Mario Addison resource, use them. 278 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: You'd be crazy. Not absolutely, And you know, there's so 279 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: many different paths in NFL careers and trajectories and so forth. 280 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: But it's interesting because Jerry is a good example. It 281 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: wasn't working out so well in Indianapolis for him, right 282 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: Were you mildly surprised, a little surprised, not surprised at all? 283 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 1: I mean, what was your reaction to what he started 284 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: to do in Buffalo when he finally hit double digit 285 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: sacks and became the kind of player that people always 286 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: wanted him to be. I think part of it is, 287 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: you know, being a little biased, the fact that he's 288 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: from here, my Dada coached against him, just having a 289 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: little bit of a connection. I wanted him to do well, 290 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: and I always felt like it was there for him 291 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: to do well. He had the traits. I mean, he 292 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: had the explosiveness, he had the twitch. But I think 293 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: and we talked to John Grenard yesterday a little bit 294 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: too about just growing up as a pass rusher in 295 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: the NFL man. I don't think we give enough credit. 296 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: How good these tackles in the league are, man, And 297 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 1: how do you beat them on a consistent basis? How 298 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: do you just beat them? Period? And learning how to 299 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: do that and learning how you do that? Like this 300 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: tackle man, he gives up a lot of spin moves, 301 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: like spin moves or his killer. But I can't do 302 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: his spin move. So how do I beat that guy? 303 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: What do I do to beat that guy? It's not 304 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: in my repertoire, But how do I beat him? And 305 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: then figuring that all out? I think it just took 306 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: a little while. He got at the Buffalo, he got opportunity, 307 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: and then he started getting his confidence. And once he 308 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: got his confidence, was like, okay, he knows he can play. 309 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: He just had to get his confidence back that he 310 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: could do it. And then when you watch him, he 311 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: just kind of tapped into a different more violent in 312 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: a good way, a football player out on the edge 313 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: for Buffalo. And he's been that way ever since I 314 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: knew it was always there. But sometimes you just need 315 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: coach Coach Smith has said, love me. Smith has said this, 316 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 1: sometimes guys just need a change of scenery. All bad thing. 317 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: And he caught the Bills on the way up, the 318 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: Bills Renaissance or whatever you want to call it, and 319 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: was a big part of that, the development of that. 320 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: And now he's here, and you hope that he's got 321 00:13:58,120 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: enough left in the tank to help this team. They've 322 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: got a lot of guys. I think that, you know, 323 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: we've joked about it. Love he Smith's gonna want to 324 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: keep all seventeen defensive lineman that he had a camp 325 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: right now, But there's gonna be a big number of 326 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: defensive linemen on this roster when it's all said and done, 327 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: because they want to rotate so many people. And I 328 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: think they liked the talent they had all right. Today 329 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: it was a good practice to watch. It really was 330 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: because and I like the way they've been doing these 331 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: practices overall throughout OTA's and mini camp today and we'll 332 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: see more on Wednesday. It's gonna be fun. I really 333 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: like it because there's a lot of team stuff. You know. 334 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: I love the seven on seven. I love the team stuff. 335 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: I don't need to watch all the individual stuff, although 336 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: that's fun too, But you know how I feel about 337 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: special teams practice, Johnny, we don't need to get into 338 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: that right now. But I enjoyed it. I enjoyed that 339 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: they did some situational stuff. You know, Mills had a 340 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: good day. He had a moment. I know he wants back. 341 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: I thought Kyle Allen had a good day. I thought 342 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: Driscoll made some throws today, which was really nice to 343 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: see red zone work. It's funny the way NFL teams practice. 344 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: I always feel and I'm counting when the ball is snapped, 345 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: I have nothing better than do. I'm watching, But I'm 346 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: also one two three with Mills. It feels like the 347 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: balls getting out. The ball is getting out. He understands 348 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: the clock. It's in his head. It's gonna go off. 349 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: He's got to get the ball out. Look, he's been 350 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: baptized in some pretty tough NFL games. What you make 351 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: up what you saw today overall? Well, back to my point, 352 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: and I probably wasn't as clear. They worked on a 353 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: lot of red zone today. You were. And I think 354 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: that's you just can't work on it enough with a 355 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: young quarterback. You just can't because you have such tight 356 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: windows and seeing it and repping it over and over 357 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: and over again, and how fast you have to be 358 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: to get the ball in that window. There can be 359 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: no hesitation and what I love the first time they 360 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: went down to the red zone. The first three or 361 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: four throws, it just wasn't there. It just took Davis 362 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: took a check down, which that's fine, just don't make 363 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: a mistake right there. Then he had a couple of 364 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: completions and you could kind of tell he was getting 365 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: he was getting a little bit frustrated. I mean, it's 366 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: hard to see him David sometimes, but you just tell 367 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: about the throws he made, he was getting frustrated. He 368 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: came over and he talked to Pep for a quick second. 369 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: He went back in the huddle and then I don't 370 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: know what Pep said, but then he dropped a diamond 371 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: the back corner to Chris Moore for a touchdown. He 372 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: then threw a back shoulder fade on the opposite side 373 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: of the field Taniko, and then he dotted Brandon Cooks 374 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: and it was one of those throws where there was 375 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: a linebacker and a safety that were kind of not 376 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: bracketing Brandon, but we're kind of playing his own So 377 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: as soon as Davis would look, those guys would close. 378 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: So Davis threw the ball almost at Brandon's feet, so 379 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: that those guys coming across would have to dive down. 380 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: They dove across, the ball gets underneath them Brandon and 381 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: has to make a scoop catch and he does so. 382 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: He makes three tough throws right in a row, bang 383 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: bang bang in the red zone. What I liked about 384 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: seeing it was the fact that he struggled a little 385 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: bit early, but he made the adjustment. He didn't even 386 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: have to come onto the sideline to make the adjustment. 387 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: He just talked to Pep for a quick second. They 388 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: may have talking about a play or whatever. He went 389 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: back on the field and away they go, and they 390 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: were They were fine at that point, and he was 391 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: fine at that point. But Kyle Allen made a couple 392 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: of throws today. Jeff Driscoll hit two back to back throws. 393 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: May have been a little bit beyond your play your 394 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: clock in the head sort of thing, but he nailed 395 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: a couple of throws. It was good to see. And 396 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: they worked on the red zone a little bit and 397 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: situational work. It's it's something that obviously is a staple 398 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: in this game. As my wife would tell me and 399 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: would tell everybody, well, isn't every players situation, which is 400 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: true it is. It's true, but they're specific situations you 401 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: have to work on. I once read an article. It 402 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: was by Paul Zimmerman, remember doctor z illustrated. Yeah, and 403 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: he said they should call it clockball, not football. But 404 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: because the clock is such a part of this game, 405 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: you have to respect that clock. You have to know 406 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: that clock. You have to know your time out situation. 407 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: You have to figure out how the two minute warning 408 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: comes into play in various situations. Is a spike worth 409 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: it here or is it worth it to run a 410 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: few seconds and run a play because you get to 411 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,239 Speaker 1: keep that down and run the play, as opposed to 412 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: burning a play to kill the clock. Because sometimes that's obvious, 413 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: sometimes it's not, and sometimes you overcome it even when 414 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: you did the wrong thing because you make a play 415 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: on the next snap. Yeah. And it's a great point 416 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: because if you get that seemingly that same situation, maybe 417 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: in a different time or against a different opponent, maybe 418 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: you need to spike it, whereas you might want to 419 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: run a play or you have a play because of 420 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: the situation. The next situation comes up, Hey, this is 421 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: really similar to that one, but you might be you 422 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: spiked it before. Maybe you run a play in this one. 423 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: Even though they all look the same, they're all those situations, 424 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: they're all seemingly different in some sense. And then you 425 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: gotta consider the score too, because up on the board 426 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: when they were going two minutes one twenty and I 427 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: think it was Kyle Allen who through a touchdown to 428 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: Farrell Brown, beautiful steam route down right down the middle 429 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: of the field, and Pararell made it think three catches 430 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: in a row, score a touchdown that made it twenty six, 431 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: twenty one. And so at that point you should go 432 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: for two, go for two, because that'll put you up seven. Yeah, 433 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: it gives you a little insurance, a little insurance. Yes, 434 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: now they could run it back, and I yes, that 435 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: could happen. You'd still have a three point lead at 436 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: that point, but you'd rather have a seven point lead 437 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: than a six point lead. So you go for two, 438 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 1: and you make sure that it's a play that doesn't 439 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: lead to a flat route that leads to a pick 440 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,239 Speaker 1: six going the other way. So those are the kind 441 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: of things hopefully that they're thinking through and they're going through. 442 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: And again play Madden, Yeah, madd play teaches you a lot. 443 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: It's funny that you say that craziest sounds. It's very high. 444 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: I always tell people the story of you being at 445 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: that Madden tournament and all these guys who were participating 446 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: were maddened studs because they could way to put that. 447 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: But they were Madden aficionados and they knew that clock yeah. Yeah, 448 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: And maybe doctor Z said it best, it's clockball. You 449 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: gotta understand how to play clockball. Because coaches, when they 450 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: grow up, they're not learning clockball. They're learning football. They're 451 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 1: learning the excess notes, they're learning a scheme, they're learning 452 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: the drills and the things that they're supposed to teach 453 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: your players to make them better football players. But at 454 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: really no point do coaches go and study clockball and Johnny, 455 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: how many times do they come across these situations? Not 456 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: very often, well, not every day that well, they do 457 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: in a game. But my point is this, to get 458 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: better at it. How do you get reps doing that 459 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 1: right out of a practice field maybe or you're watching 460 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: game takes. I would have you know, they employ a 461 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: lot of people, and I'm not sure how they do 462 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: this here, but I'm just saying NFL teams at large, 463 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: I would employ people, you know, pot you know pot up. 464 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: We say that in audio, but just boot up, queue 465 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: up some different kinds of late game situations where teams 466 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: did it well, teams did it not so well, so 467 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: we can all learn. And I'm sure stuff like that 468 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: is going on because you gotta be ready and you 469 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,959 Speaker 1: just don't come across those situations often enough to get 470 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: the reps to be second nature at some of this stuff. 471 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: It's like you need every tape of a game at 472 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: about the four minute drill, at four minute, and you 473 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: need a TV copy too, because that's going to give 474 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: you the true length of time that you have. Because 475 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: if you go with the regular copy that you normally have, 476 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: it's played by play, so it doesn't really you don't 477 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: really get it. But that's a great point. You get 478 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: the TV copy and just turn the sound down so 479 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: you don't have to listen to any of us flapping 480 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: our gums and you don't want to be you know, 481 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: and play the situation out. What would you do? Here? 482 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: It is four minutes played out, don't touch fast forward, 483 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: don't get rewind, just go what would you do? And 484 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: here's the situation. It's twenty eight, twenty three and you're 485 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: the defensive coach in this situation, play this out. How 486 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: would you do it. I don't want you to think 487 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: about the play you would call. I don't want you 488 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: to think about what defensive play you would call. I 489 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: want you to play the situation out, just the situation itself. Yeah, 490 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: and go and go from there. That's something that I 491 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: mean if I was if if I was talking to 492 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: a young coach, I would say, and that's the thing. 493 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: A lot of younger coaches have played Madden, so they've 494 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: at least have a little bit of that. But I 495 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: would say, do that. That needs to be kind of 496 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: your hobby. Like learn how to coach your position. There's 497 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: how to be a dB coach, there're how to be 498 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 1: a linebackers coach, but quarterbacks coach, coordinator whatever special teams. 499 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: But learn clockball. That's a good way of putting out 500 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: like that. Learn clockball. I mean you have to learn it. 501 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 1: You have to know it. A spike will save you 502 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: some time, but it'll burn it down and you have 503 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: to be able to weigh those things. The downs are 504 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: more worth it than the time. The time is more 505 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: worth it than the downs. Whatever the situation calls for. Anyway, 506 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: they're working on situational stuff in man camp. One more 507 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: day of practice, well, two more days of practice, we'll 508 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: see how it goes. Very often teams say Thursday, bye bye. 509 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: We'll see if they do it here or not. Last 510 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: year obviously no mini camp, but last year, and we 511 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: talked to a lot of guys this week media day 512 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: was held and a lot of guys talked about how 513 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: OTAs last year they were walkethroughs. They didn't have the 514 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: kind of manoamano participation we're seeing out there right now. 515 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: Another thing did you pick up on and it was 516 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: almost as if they were coached, But they're not coached 517 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: to do this. When we asked players about Mills, one 518 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: word kept on coming up about Mills and it was 519 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: leader leadership. They all said it. It was unsolicited. We 520 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: didn't ask how is he as a leader, But hey, 521 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: what are you seeing out of Davis Mills right now 522 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: year two, especially among some of the events. He's a leader, 523 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: He's a leader and being in control, being in control, 524 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: being a leader, I mean, those can get I'm not 525 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: saying Davis isn't, but a guy that's in control out 526 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,959 Speaker 1: on a field, a quarterback that's in control on a field, 527 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: isn't always the best leader. Now he is the maestro 528 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: at that point. Doesn't mean that he is a quality leader. 529 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: It just he gets everybody in the right spot. He 530 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: knows what people are supposed to do. I think Davis 531 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: leads with his actions. I think how he performed last 532 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: year coming back in after the rough start of the season, 533 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: after having some tough ball games, coming back in being 534 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: more confident. Let that confidence kind of rub off on 535 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: the team in some sense. I think that all all 536 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: played into it. I though it's interesting and fun talking 537 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: to Connor Weddington two yeah, who had been with him 538 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: in college, who also had been with Thomas Booker in 539 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: college and had the opportunity to see Davis kind of 540 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: all groans up. If you will. You know last time 541 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: that Connor had played with him, he was, you know, teammates, 542 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: they were captains together. And you'll hear that interview with 543 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: Connor Weddington and receiver the Texans acquired just before the 544 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: offseason started or the OTA started, and he was great 545 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 1: because he was like, yeah, he's Davis's captain. I've always 546 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: seen him in that way, but now I've seen an 547 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: NFL huddle and he's even more of a leader than 548 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: we thought about. They have receivers for days. This is 549 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: gonna be fun to talk about during camp. Also fun 550 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: to talk about. More are likely to happen, quarterbacks, super 551 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: Bowl likelihood around the league's stuff like that. Texans running attack. 552 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: Let's get into it next here on Texans Radio. It's 553 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: Texans All Access. Indeed, Mark Vandermarin, John Harris with you 554 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: from the Hunday Texans Radio studio at NRG Stadium, and 555 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 1: we are ready to play more likely to happen, More 556 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: likely to happen, Johnny, more likely to lead the Texans 557 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: in rushing yards. I'll probably do this three or four 558 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: more times before the season starts. Damian Pierce or Marlon Mack, 559 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: you gotta pick one of those guys, pick one of 560 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: your children. Did you not walk out of here yesterday 561 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: going I like Marlin mac man I do, and you 562 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: know what he tolerated Again. We're gonna play this interview 563 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: for you soon enough. We did a bunch of them yesterday. 564 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: But I began the Marlin mac interview scolding him about 565 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: his time with the culture. Now I wasn't scolding him. 566 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: I was scolding. The best part about it was and 567 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: I was sitting next to him and just watching the 568 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: whole thing. He's smiling just yea in my cultural entire time. 569 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: He just he just went with it. But we had 570 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: we had heard Frank Ross was doing a media gathering. 571 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: It was right when conditioning started. He was asked about 572 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: Marlon Mack because Frank had been in Indianapolis when Marlin 573 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: was there. And I just remember Frank saying, there's quite 574 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,479 Speaker 1: guy doesn't say a whole heck of a logic, goes 575 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: out there and does his job. And he came in 576 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: here and I was like, he's smiling, very very comfortable. 577 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,479 Speaker 1: He's very comfortable with us, and I really enjoyed talking 578 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: to him, and I just came out of there going, man, 579 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: I hope he has that bounce back year he's looking 580 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: for because I don't know field. He looks good. He 581 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: looks really good though. His patient style of running I 582 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: think fits him. What they're doing. You see the explosiveness 583 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: once he gets to the second level and beyond he's 584 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: He looks good and I would love to see him 585 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: get every shot. Damian Pierce, oh boy, he's got a 586 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: different gear. And I said this to you, and you 587 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: all out there can write this down in Pen during 588 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: training camp, there will be a Neville Hewett Damian Pierce collision. 589 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: I can't wait for this. That will that people people 590 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: will talk about for the rest of training camp as 591 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: long as nobody gets hurt. Yes, yes, but those two 592 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: hammerheads are gonna collide. I gotta just I have a feeling. 593 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: And Damian Pierce won't back down because he's a rookie, 594 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: and Neville Hewitt won't back down because well he's Nevill 595 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: Hewitt and he hits anything in a different colored jersey. 596 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: So I can't wait for that to happen. But that said, 597 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with a little bit of a surprise. 598 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Marlon Mack. Okay, I wanted to 599 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: see both of them do really, really well, but I 600 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: want Marlon Mack. The one thing about Marlin it's a 601 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 1: little different than Damien is. And Damien's got good enough speed, 602 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: but Marlin's got if you miss him, he's got goodbye speed. Right, 603 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: So you get to the second level and you miss 604 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,160 Speaker 1: a tackle and your safeties are out of their gap, 605 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: you know, and their run fits. He could house that thing, 606 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: And I mean, we haven't had that a lot at 607 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: that position. I remember Lamar Miller could do that. There 608 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: weren't a lot of others that could do that at 609 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: that particular position. So if Marlin gets the second level clean, 610 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: and it's not just going eighty for a touchdown, but 611 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 1: it's taken a run that could be four to five 612 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: yards and turning that into a fifteen to twenty yard run. 613 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: It's those runs too, like, hey man, we'll take a 614 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: chunk run here. This will get us so you know, 615 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: out from the minus fifteen yard line, get us out 616 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: to the thirty thirty five and now we're cooking. So 617 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: I think Marlin's got a little bit of that. Damian's 618 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: not quite that speed, but he just bludgeons so many people. 619 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: He turns four and five yard runs into fifteen twenty 620 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: yard runs because he bounces off people like a pinball. 621 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Marlon Mack. But I think both of 622 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: them are gonna find a way to impact this running 623 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: game in that running back room, for sure. I do 624 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: believe it's a buy committee kind of thing. Somebody might 625 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: float to the top. Somebody will have the team lead 626 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: in rushing yards. Last year, Rex burkhead three point five 627 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: per carry. They dramatically have to improve on that number 628 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,719 Speaker 1: for whoever the leading rusher is, in fact, all of them, please. 629 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: But it's interesting with running backs because we saw David 630 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: Johnson here and I always thought, well, David Johnson healthy 631 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: should be pretty good. Yeah, if he's healthy, he should 632 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: be pretty good. And I think, all right, was he healthy? 633 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: Was he not healthy enough? Did the line block not 634 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: well enough for him? How do you want it to find? This? 635 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: And I think it's a little bit of everything. And 636 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to say Mac is David Johnson because 637 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: I'm not. But Mac was off to a tremendous start 638 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: in his career with nine hundred eight yards and twenty 639 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: eighteen to the big playoff win here, and then he 640 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: got a thousand plus the following year four point seven, 641 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: four point four, and then slowed down Jonathan Taylor derailed, 642 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: and here you have it. He's trying to rebuild things 643 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: with the Houston Texans. I would think Mac healthy is 644 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: gonna be really good, but we'll see. We just don't 645 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,719 Speaker 1: know until we know, all right. Next item more likely 646 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: to happen, more likely to miss the playoffs this year 647 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals or the Arizona Cardinals. They both made 648 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: it last year. Obviously, the Bengals went to the Super Bowl. 649 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,479 Speaker 1: But some people are going out on that limb, walking 650 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: that plank, saying the Bengals are gonna miss because here 651 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: it comes Lamar Jackson back for the Baltimore Ravens. And 652 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: what's going on in Cleveland. Well, we kind of know, 653 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: but Dewey and Pittsburgh who knows. And the Bengals might 654 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: not have done enough. Look, let's face it, they're gonna 655 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: get everybody's best game now. They're no longer the Bengals 656 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: that you beat up on. These are tough Bengals that 657 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: everybody wants a piece of your thoughts. And if they 658 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if they completely solved everything in the 659 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: offensive line, but they did make some moves on the 660 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: offensive line. They're gonna help. Yeah, you don't know until 661 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: you know, right, Yeah, exactly, But you'd like to think, okay, 662 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: we fix some of these offensive line problems. That gives 663 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: Joe a little bit more time, Joe Burrow, a little 664 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: bit more time. I think Cincinnati's gonna be very, very good. 665 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: But I think Cincinnati might be a victim of its 666 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: own success in that they've gotta play at first place 667 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: to get so yeah, that means they've got to play Tennessee. 668 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: But they've also got to play the so they get 669 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: the West, right because they're the East is playing the North. 670 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, they got to play the Kansity Chiefs. So 671 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: it's they're playing first play schedule, so they get Tennessee 672 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: in Kansas City. I mean, that's that's tough and of itself. 673 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: I've said I think Cincinnati is the natural bounce back, 674 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: not going back to Cincinnati five and twelve point thirteen 675 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: kind of thing, but I could see them going nine 676 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: and eight, played some really tough games, come back to 677 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: earth kind of yeah. Yeah, but have that year kind 678 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: of like the Bills did in eighteen. Like the Bills 679 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: into the playoffs in seventeen, then eighteen, they kind of 680 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: took a little bit of a step back as they 681 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: got Josh Allen in the mix. Nineteen they get back 682 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: to the playoffs. Now twenty and twenty one, they were 683 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: arguably one of the top five teams in the the league. 684 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty two, they're Super Bowl favorite. I think 685 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: Cincinnati could take a step back to like ninety eight, 686 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: maybe in a tenant seven. Maybe Eken in the playoffs, 687 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: but not like they were last year. I think Arizona 688 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: is right to be had. I've said that I don't 689 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: think the offensive line. The one thing I get the 690 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: Bengals credit for is the Bengals may change on the 691 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: offensive line. That right side was brutal. They went out, 692 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: they went out and attacked it. I think they signed 693 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: Lyle Collins to play out there. They've added some dudes 694 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: on an offensive line that should help. I don't know 695 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: that Arizona did enough in front of Kyler Murray. So 696 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: and although the AFC North is very, very good, I 697 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: think if I had to choose, would rather play an 698 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: AFC North six games against those opponents or play six 699 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: games against AFC West opponents or NFC West. I would 700 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: probably want to be an AFC North Cardinals gonna play 701 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: those six games. Yeah, the Seahawks may not be what 702 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: the Seahawks were, but you gotta play four times against 703 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: the Rams and Niners. Yeah tough. I don't like that 704 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: for them. So I'm gonna say that the Cardinals will 705 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: be the team that struggles to make the playoffs next 706 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: more likely to happen, most likely to lead this group 707 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: in passing yards. The twenty twenty one quarterback class. Who's 708 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: gonna lead in passing yards among those guys? Mills is 709 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: in there too. I'm throwing Mills in the bunch. Let's 710 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: go with Herbert, with Mac Jones, with Zach Wilson, with 711 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: your boy Trey Lance out in San Francisco, assuming he plays, 712 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: because we gotta see it to believe it. Trevor Trevor Lawrence. Now, 713 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: I don't think just because he throws for the most yards, 714 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: that'll be the top performance in that particular group. No. 715 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: I agree. Look, we've seen it here. You lead the 716 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: league in passing yards. We hadn't happened on a four 717 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: and twelve football team. We hadn't happened on the nine 718 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: and seven football team. It doesn't guarantee you the most success. 719 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: We understand that often passing you throw for three fifty great, 720 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: did you throw three picks? Were you down with a 721 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: carbo hydrate yards at the end of the game. We 722 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: don't know, but I'm just asking it. That's the big 723 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: thing is all those quarterbacks. It's oh, I think Trey 724 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: Lance may throw for the least, but he might have 725 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: the most effective season because he's obviously got the most weapons. Around. 726 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: What about Fields. I think there's an opportunity for Fields. 727 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: I just I just don't know who. I mean, Look, 728 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: I know who Fields is thrown too. I know he's 729 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: throwing Darna Mooney, I think is underrated. Velis Jones is 730 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 1: a rookie, but he's really been impressive. But he's rookie, 731 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: So I mean that's what he's throwing too. Cole comment 732 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 1: tight end like Fields isn't thrown to Kelsey Tyreek and uh, 733 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: you know Miko Hardman, like you know Malmes was and 734 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: has been. And then you know Sammy Watkins in that 735 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: mix with the Chiefs over one of those years. So 736 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: from that standpoint, I don't know that Justin has enough 737 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: around him. I don't think Mac has enough around him. 738 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: And Matt Patricia's call him plays Trevor with Doug Peterson, 739 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: that could be the difference maker. And you added Christian Kirk, 740 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: and you added Zay Jones, and you added Evan Ingram, 741 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 1: you added weapons in the passing game. I think it 742 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: could end up being Trevor. I think Trevor could get 743 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: the four bills this year. I don't think it means 744 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: that Jacksonville is all that much better, but I think 745 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: what it does is it allows Andre and myself to 746 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: point back at you and go, we told you, I 747 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: told you. All Right, we'll see, we'll see if that happens. 748 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 1: We'll see. Okay. I can't wait for the season, but look, 749 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: one day at a time. Next more likely to happen, 750 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,280 Speaker 1: item more likely to win the Super Bowl first among 751 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: these Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert or Lamar Jackson. Give me 752 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: a super Bowl winner. Who's gonna get it first among 753 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: those three to one? That's a tough one. I and 754 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: I don't even know if it has to do with 755 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,919 Speaker 1: those three guys. I could see all three of those 756 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,720 Speaker 1: guys leading a team. Now, people will be screaming Lamore 757 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,240 Speaker 1: has done in the playoffs. I mean he had everything 758 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: in twenty nine. Yeah, I mean it happens, and they 759 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: got beat by Derrick Henry. I mean yeah, a lot 760 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 1: of teams got beat by Derrick Henry, so not surprising. 761 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: I mean, now, Derrick Henry got beat by the Bengals 762 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: this year. I think it would be Herbert because of 763 00:35:54,760 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: the talent that's around Herbert that the chart Ers could 764 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: find a different way to win. I think the defensive 765 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: talent with the Ravens. They've had to recycle it a 766 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 1: little bit. Derek Wolf just wanted had hip surgery for 767 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: the second time, so I think he's out for a while. 768 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: Clay's Campbell came back to the Ravens late, but how 769 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: much is he still having the tank? Marlon Humphrey is 770 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: the star really in Baltimore. But for all those years 771 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: Baltimore had dudes like dudes on defense. Now you're looking, go, okay, 772 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: young guy over here, young guy over there. Okay, Chuck 773 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,479 Speaker 1: Clark's back there, Kat's good. But who's playing next? Okay, 774 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton's a rookie. So there, that defense isn't quite there. 775 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: I look at the charges and go, man, that's a 776 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 1: pretty close team. That team is really close to being complete. 777 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: Ackler good running back. Those two receivers Kenyan Allen and 778 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: Mike Williams's fantastic or fantastic. The line's gotten better in 779 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 1: front of Herbert with the addition of Zion Johnson. I mean, 780 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: what do you say about Boston Mac. I just think 781 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 1: the supporting cast around Justin Herbert is that much better 782 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 1: than the other two right now, So I'm gonna go 783 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. Okay, I've got one more for you after 784 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: the break, plus around the league, we will go to 785 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: broadcasting what former Texas Pro football coach is now a 786 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,439 Speaker 1: big part of a big network, among other things coming 787 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: up here on Texans All Access. Final segment here on 788 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: Texans Radio tonight. Great to have you listening, Mark Vandermaer 789 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: and John Harris with you. I didn't do my final 790 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 1: more likely to happen here it is Johnny all right, 791 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: more likely to happen? Nick Cassario, ice Cream, Binge, Oh, 792 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:31,280 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, Pat McAfee show appearance, Ohio ice Cream? First, Really, 793 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,879 Speaker 1: no way, I could No way. Binge Like like he 794 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: gets a Sunday, he loads up. He's like, I'm gonna 795 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: go all out to him. I'm using Nick to help 796 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: me answer this question kind of. I remember we were 797 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 1: talking I can't remembers on air off there, and something 798 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 1: I brought up about Belichick and he was just like, yeah, 799 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 1: I think what is I think people that know Bill 800 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 1: and people around the building with the Patriots, they know 801 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: that Bill is not quite that person that the media 802 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: sees and all that kind of stuff. And I think 803 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: we've all sort of thought that was the case because 804 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: so many people have stayed with the Patriots for so 805 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: long and been around so long. If it's that miserable, 806 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: people would have left, even whether you're winning or not. 807 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: So and there have been people that have left. But 808 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: I think there's you know, it's overblown, but I just 809 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 1: can't see Belichick going on with McAfee. The one thing 810 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: I could see him going on that show, though, is 811 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 1: Belichick at heart, as crazy as this sounds, he got 812 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 1: his start in the NFL as a special teams coach, 813 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: so he would like that. Johnny, I could almost see 814 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: it happening once he retires. Once he retires, yet he's humor. 815 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: He did that NFL was that then with eyes in 816 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 1: and you're going over all the layers Brady and historically, Yeah, 817 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: I could see him. I could actually see him doing it, 818 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: having a little sense of humor when he retires. I 819 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: could see that. I think you're absolutely right about that. 820 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,359 Speaker 1: There are a lot of shows he would not do, 821 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,359 Speaker 1: but that might be one of them. He'd does. Deal 822 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 1: because McAfee. McAfee's not gonna light up Bill. Belichick's tough, 823 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: No no, no, he's not. He's fun and I think 824 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:10,320 Speaker 1: Belichick would respect the fact that it's Pat McAfee special 825 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 1: teams were a big deal and Pat was good at that, 826 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: and aj Hawk a defensive player he would have respect for. 827 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna change my answer. I'm gonna change my answer, okay, 828 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: because I just had the vision of Nick Kissario eating 829 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: ice cream and binging on ice cream and I didn't 830 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 1: like that. So I'm gonna go at Belichick on McAfee 831 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: show talking into it. Okay. Uh, Jason Garrett's gonna work 832 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: for NBC. How about that Ivy leaguer? Yeah, okay, I'm 833 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 1: gonna give you the most overused phrase ever. Okay, he 834 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,479 Speaker 1: went to insert name of supposed smart school here, right, 835 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: he must be smart. Let me shoot that down right now. Okay, 836 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: I mean when I went to Brown University. I can't 837 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: do that on a daily But you can't listen to 838 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: me and go, oh, yeah he's smart. No, no, no no. 839 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: There are so many people that go to those schools 840 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 1: for whatever reason and have no business having gone to 841 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: those school from a stereotypical reason. They got in as 842 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: I did, having football on the resume. So just because 843 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett, now, Jason Garrett is smart, so he'll be fine. 844 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,800 Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how it goes for Jason Garrett 845 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:16,280 Speaker 1: to see how much he actually goes beneath the surface. 846 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if he has designs on coaching again, 847 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,479 Speaker 1: if he takes a coach to task for certain things. 848 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: If they're breaking out a big game and a coach 849 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 1: has made a massive clock mistake and he knows it, 850 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: is he gonna point that out? You know? Those kind 851 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: of things. I don't know, And I think they would 852 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 1: have McVey would have had fun with it. And remember, 853 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: I might retire and go into TV. How about Aaron Donald? 854 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 1: I might retire. Who believes this crap? I didn't believe 855 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: it from either person. Did they both get contracts? By 856 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,399 Speaker 1: the way, do you think not that the Rams are 857 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 1: over celebrating or anything, because good for them they won 858 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,919 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? Yeah, but I think this feeling around 859 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: sports and I'm not even saying the league necessarily, but 860 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: sports and sports me just national conversations. This feeling at 861 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: the Rams are here to stay in this seat. I 862 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: think that's a little overblown. It's hard to get there. 863 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,399 Speaker 1: They had a tough time. They had a tough time 864 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 1: blasting to the playoffs to get their Lobardi Trophy. They 865 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,720 Speaker 1: didn't blast through the playoffs. No exactly, they had to well, 866 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: they had to get through crunch time moments in order 867 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 1: to get through over the hump at every game. It 868 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 1: was not a blowout fest in the postseason. Remember the 869 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 1: eighties when teams, you know, the Giants would wipe the 870 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 1: floor with Washington to get the NFC Championship game, had 871 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: wind swept Metal Lands, and you had the Bears. You know, 872 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 1: all these teams like dominating to get to the Super 873 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: Bowl and often dominating the Super Bowl. You don't get 874 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: that here, Drew and I are gonna talking about this 875 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 1: on our end of Lab next week. But the biggest 876 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: issue for those teams was quarterback continuity. Right, Jim McMahon 877 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 1: couldn't stay healthy enough. After the Bears had won an 878 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 1: eighties Phil Simms got dinged up. Who won the second 879 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: Giantsteller Hosteller did. After Sim's got banged up, the Redskins 880 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 1: were going in and out of quarterbacks after thim. That's 881 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,320 Speaker 1: why he's such an underrated As celebrated as he is, 882 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: Joe Gibbs is somewhat underrated in what he was able 883 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,720 Speaker 1: to accomplish. Johnny, that's gonna do it for tonight. My friend, 884 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,760 Speaker 1: all right, we are really looking forward to tomorrow's practice. 885 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: We'll talk about it on tomorrow night show. You can 886 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: listen to this one soon enough on the Texans app. 887 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: Have a great night everyone, and go Texans.