1 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: The John Annik and Kenny Florian Podcast. 2 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: John Annik and Kenny Florian. 3 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 3: I love him. 4 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 4: I can't get enough of him. 5 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 3: That book. 6 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 5: There are a couple of absolutely self involved. 7 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: You are your hosts, John Anick and Kenny Florian. 8 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 2: Oh pay per view week, don't get too many of these. 9 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 3: You know. 10 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: We're going live Monday, July twenty second. The year is 11 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. It is episode five oh one of 12 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: the Annik and Florian Podcast and we have a very 13 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: special treat off the top of the show today. But 14 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: before I get into the most handsome man in the room, 15 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: just wanted to acknowledge everybody who made episode five hundred 16 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: of the anticin Florian Podcast so special. Guest listeners, handicappers, 17 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 2: everybody who reached out talking about times in their lives 18 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: when maybe the podcast has helped them through. So thank 19 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: you all for making that special. We did have to 20 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: hold back some of the big guns though, for episode 21 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: five oh one, which comes your way today here on 22 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: the DraftKings Network and YouTube and everywhere else and joining 23 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 2: us off the top of the show. In addition to 24 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: Ken Flow on vacation in South Carolina, do it a 25 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: lot of work by the way on vacation, Jason Anik 26 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: in studio, and we are joined by the greatest bandon 27 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: weight of all time, former two time UFC champion, future 28 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: UFC Hall of Famer, Live from Mexico City, eight thirty 29 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: am Local time, Dominic Cruise is with us. What's up there? 30 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 4: Oh, what an introduction you got to give credit? 31 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 6: Man, Like, this is why you guys have five hundred 32 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 6: and one shows, because even though Kenny's all over the place, 33 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 6: there's still a show. 34 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: Well, you and I have talked a lot about this 35 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: on the road, and I did a lot of media 36 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: last week, and oftentimes I was asked about our five 37 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: hundredth episode, and I kept saying, Domina Cruz always says, 38 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: what the fuck do you guys talk about from five 39 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: hundred episodes? 40 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 4: I don't know. 41 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 6: Seriously, It's nice to come on for an episode and 42 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 6: be like, oooh, I did really good. 43 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: So a lot to get into with you today, and 44 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 2: we appreciate your time. So you were in the United 45 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: States twenty four or so hours ago, and you are 46 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: now back in Mexico City, where you have been for 47 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: some time. Jojo is with you. It seems as though 48 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: you've been working on your body, maybe stacking training camp days, potentially. 49 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 2: I was facetiming with Rosnama units last week after her win, 50 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: and she was talking about you on the broadcast, and 51 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: she said, man Don was so locked in he must 52 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 2: have a fight on the books. So I don't usually 53 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 2: start with the hard hitting questions, but I will lead 54 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 2: with that today. It seems like maybe you're working towards something. 55 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: Is there a fight on the horizon or no? 56 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 6: So I like to kind of work in silence the 57 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 6: best I can. I already know there's a whole division 58 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 6: that would love to fight me. I get called out 59 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 6: every weekend. There's not a shortage of fighters that want 60 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 6: to fight me. I think the most important part for 61 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 6: me is to be as healthy as physically possible, to 62 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 6: be in the best kind of physical shape I can be, 63 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 6: so that when these people call me out, I'm ready 64 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 6: to beat them. So I'm basically doing that. I'm out here. 65 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 6: I've been in Mexico City. I didn't know how it 66 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 6: was going to be, but I it's very healthy lifestyle 67 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 6: out here. Actually, you ride your bike everywhere. You don't 68 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 6: I don't even have a car. I live on a 69 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 6: on the floor on a bed, it's kind of like 70 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 6: how I started. So I'm borrowing an extra bedroom and 71 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 6: you just out here. It's cheaper out here to live 72 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 6: in Mexico right now, if we're talking about comparatively speaking. 73 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 7: To Vegas, and you got the altitude. 74 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 6: Got the altitude, and I've got a whole cadet team. 75 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 6: These are all the best, some of the best fighters 76 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 6: that went through the combine out here in Mexico City. 77 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 6: So they're all the best fighters in South America that 78 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 6: got picked out of like I don't know, one hundred 79 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 6: and fifty fighters that came intod A combine, and this 80 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 6: is them. 81 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 4: And they're all. 82 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 6: One hundred and thirty five hundred and forty five pounds, 83 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 6: one hundred and twenty five pounds. 84 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 4: So I got a whole sea of you. 85 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 6: Know, so Americans that want to kill me and take 86 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 6: everything I have every single day. 87 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 7: And the Yeah, it is this Dominic Cruz's Rocky three moment. 88 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 7: This is what it feels like. You're going back, you know, 89 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 7: getting the hunger of being around hungry fighters. Is this 90 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 7: what this is? 91 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, well you can, we can label it whatever we want, 92 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 6: right but I think the more I just let it 93 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 6: be what it is, instead of trying. 94 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 4: To label it. 95 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 6: It puts less pressure, less expectation. I could just show 96 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 6: up and do what I gotta do. But I'm here 97 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 6: to be ready. I'm I'm as healthy as I've been 98 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 6: in a long time. I've got the physical therapy here 99 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 6: at the PI that the whole establishment. Food is good, 100 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 6: So I feel really good. And if there was ever 101 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 6: a chance for this to all line up, it's now. 102 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 4: Yeah. 103 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: So have you ever done a full training camp at 104 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: altitude or at least significant chunks before the. 105 00:04:55,680 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 6: Last time I did it was man years. I don't 106 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 6: even remember who the fight was against, I think, but 107 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 6: I trained at altitude a little bit. Oh, it's when 108 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 6: Brandon and Vera was getting ready to fight at altitude somewhere, 109 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 6: and I went to his training camp up at Big 110 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 6: Bear to prepare for Ian McCall and I did. I 111 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 6: did like two weeks out there, and yeah, it's it's 112 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 6: the hardest. 113 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 3: It is. 114 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 6: It's the hardest, but once you adapt, it just becomes 115 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 6: like anything else, and then your whole body kind of, 116 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 6: you know, turns into something different. The best way I 117 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 6: can explain it is, if anybody's ever I know there's 118 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 6: a lot of dragon ball Z fans in this world. 119 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 6: So I'm gonna say that there's an episode where they 120 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 6: go intoto this other world where the world is so 121 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 6: heavy and. 122 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 4: They have to train in the gravity, and that's what 123 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 4: it feels like. 124 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 6: It feels like you're training in a place where everything's 125 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 6: heavier out here it's no air. 126 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 7: Yea, that's awesome. I love the reference. All right, So 127 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 7: Morob duallas Pheli's taken on Sean O'Malley in a little bit. 128 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 7: How do you break down that fight? Who do you 129 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 7: see as have men? 130 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 4: I mean, O'Malley has the advantage. 131 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 6: You saw Henry was able to kind of hurt Davish 132 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 6: Bili a little bit and force the wrestling. 133 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: Like, so. 134 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 4: O'Malley's going to hit him. We're all going to get hit. 135 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,679 Speaker 6: I mean, if you if you're going in there expecting 136 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 6: I'm not gonna get hit once, I'm just gonna finish 137 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 6: him in a minute, you're you could, yeah, but it's 138 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 6: a it's quite an expectation for yourself. So I expect 139 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 6: he's gonna get hit. The question is how is he 140 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 6: going to close the distance? That's the that's why this 141 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 6: is a good fight for O'Malley is the distance and 142 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 6: the stand switches and the footwork. 143 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 4: He's got all the all the good. It's a good 144 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 4: style matchup, like for O'Malley. 145 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 6: Stylistically, you got a short guy who wants to wrestle, 146 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 6: and we know for a fact doesn't want to stand up. 147 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 4: Can he stand up? 148 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 6: Yes, but it's not what he wants to do, It's 149 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 6: not where he's comfortable. 150 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 4: So the fight starts standing that. That's where I. 151 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 6: See it's a it's a good stylistic matchup for O'Malley. 152 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 7: I guess to play the other side of it, Dom, 153 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 7: how do you think O'Malley matches up if Morob is 154 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 7: able to find a way to get to that, to 155 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 7: get those legs to get to the body on a clinch, 156 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 7: do you think he's gonna have good enough grappling to 157 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 7: nullify or to get back to his feet. 158 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 6: That's the part I think if you go back and 159 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 6: you watch O'Malley and some that stuff he's been in 160 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 6: the forced himself into these tough situations. 161 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: I don't know, frozen in Mexico City, frozen pizza. 162 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 3: There we go, we're back. 163 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: And no we're frozen again. Yeah, we're back. I think 164 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 2: we're back now frozen. 165 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, we could hear you. 166 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 4: And hello, are we back yet? 167 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is back since lating television. We might have 168 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: to Yeah, I hear you, but the delay is such Cody, 169 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: maybe we can rerack him potentially. I think Morob Dwallish 170 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: Willy right now is the slight betting favorite. Dom We 171 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 2: would ask you to maybe leave and come back and 172 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: see if we can get a better connection, if you'd 173 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: be so covered. I think Dwallish Willy is actually the 174 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: betting favorite right now, if I'm not mistaken. They don't 175 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: have it on Draftking Sportsbook. I think in part because 176 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: there hasn't been a date announced, a lot of people 177 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: are expecting that it'll be September fourteenth at Spear Vegas. 178 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: By the way, we have gotten some instructions Sphere Vegas, 179 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 2: don't call it the sphere, so if youbody drop the 180 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: v sphere or sphere in Vegas. But September fourteenth is 181 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 2: the expecting date for Dwallish Willie and Sean O'Malley. Jay, 182 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 2: I know you were gonna eventually ask Domina Cruz about 183 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 2: Blah Muhammad's chances this weekend. We have a lot of 184 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 2: things we wanted to get into with Domina Cruz, but 185 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 2: since he is having some technical difficulties, I will dive 186 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 2: in right here, right now. So we are leaving for Manchester, 187 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 2: England tomorrow for UFC three oh four, and I think 188 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 2: anybody who wants watch the UFC three oh four Countdown 189 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 2: Special only has heightened interest. By the way, right now, 190 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 2: I'm Rob Dwallish Willie minus one twenty five betting favorite, 191 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: Sean O'Malley minus one oh five per odd Shark. Hey, Dom, 192 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 2: We're only going to keep you for a few more minutes. 193 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 3: Can you hear me? 194 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? I think I can. 195 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: I just dude, No, it's fine, dude, It's fine. It's uh, 196 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 2: it's Wi Fi. It's all the time, dude. Do you 197 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: know how many Wi Fi fits? Anyone who's listened to 198 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 2: this show over the last few years knows that I've 199 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 2: had absolutely fits. So, Sean O'Malley, this is like the 200 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 2: best price that you will have been able to get 201 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: on him in a long time. I mean, you love 202 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 2: the matchup, you didn't hesitate, You know this division and 203 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: these fighters as well as anyone. You can get him 204 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 2: as an underdog right now. Dom minus one oh five 205 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 2: for Shan O'Malley. Sounds like that would be somewhat appetizing 206 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: for you if you were actually allowed to bet on 207 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 2: these things. Great, yeah, all right, we'll try to reconnect 208 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: with dom later. But Cody, let's see a doctor and 209 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 2: get rid of it. If you don't mind. It's fine, 210 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: it's fine. It is what it is. No, dude, it's fine. 211 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 2: You're good guys, So you too, brother. So Domina Cruz 212 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 2: is in Mexico City. He doesn't have a fight. You know, 213 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 2: I believe him to be a man of veracity, So 214 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: I was going to push him a little bit harder 215 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 2: on the back end of the interview, but it is 216 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 2: what it is. So it all goes down this weekend, 217 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 2: UFC three hundred and four. And your guy below, Muhammad, 218 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 2: who is one of your best friends in the world, Jay, 219 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 2: who has fought so hard and waited so long for 220 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: this opportunity. It is finally his championship fight week. I mean, 221 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: are you eating? Are you anxious? How are you feeling? 222 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 2: I know you grew out, grew your hair out for 223 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 2: me a little bit, a little bit, Kenny, Do you 224 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: think I can talk now? 225 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? 226 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 2: Oh good? You know I was trying to figure out 227 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: what was more annoying for John the Wi Fi or 228 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: me before the show started. But it's unique, it's a 229 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 2: unique experience. It's all about Blala. I'm just so excited 230 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: for Balal on so many levels, and even seeing him 231 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: on Countdown, seeing the opportunity for him to sort of 232 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: gain fans even before the fight. I don't know what 233 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: to expect from Leon's side of it. I know what 234 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: we're gonna get from Blal. I've talked about this fight 235 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 2: so much, but yeah, I'm jumping out of my skin 236 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 2: every day, jumping out of my skin every day. 237 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 7: It really is. 238 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: Interesting when you watch the Countdown special, and I do 239 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 2: watch these shows Kenny as a fan, not so much 240 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 2: as a commentator. Certainly there are extractions, and Kenny, I 241 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: don't think at this point in time, you've seen the 242 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: Countdown show. But it does document something that Jay and 243 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: I have known for several months. That you know, balalan 244 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: Is family are part of a foundation that helps wounded children, 245 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: and one of those wounded children from Gaza has been 246 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 2: living with Blal. They took in him and his father 247 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: and he had his kneecap shattered, and I don't know 248 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: what happened to his mother. But you know, Bellow's a 249 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: guy who I think, in a lot of respects holds 250 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: the emotions back. And seeing him cry, I had my 251 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: kids watching the Countdown special with me yesterday. I'm fucking 252 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: balling my goddamn eyes out and just wondering aloud, if 253 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 2: balal and again we're gonna check him with this camp 254 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 2: here in ten minutes, but if he is not only 255 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: maybe a bit overtrained at this point, but just the emotions, Kenny, 256 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: I think are going to be a lot for this man. 257 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 7: Well, it's an interesting question in one that I probably 258 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 7: would have kind of dismissed a while ago, certainly before 259 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 7: my fight against BJ Penn, And that was something I 260 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 7: was looking forward to for a very long time, and 261 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 7: I overtrained a tremendous amount for that fight. Thought it 262 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 7: wasn't real. Definitely did that and was flat probably a 263 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 7: month and a half before that fight. But you know, 264 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 7: that's something, and then you, of course you have the emotional, 265 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 7: you know, portion of that, which is a whole different 266 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 7: ball of wax, which I think is a very interesting 267 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 7: angle to from and I think that it can be 268 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 7: certainly positive, right. It's something that can motivate you through 269 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 7: those very difficult times in camp or of course during 270 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 7: the fight, but it also can be a burden on 271 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 7: you as well, you know, feeling that pressure, having all 272 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 7: those ups and downs emotionally, dealing with all that stuff outside, 273 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 7: because just a championship championship camp alone is a lot 274 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 7: of stress on On a fight, there's so many more obligations, 275 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 7: and of course you're preparing for five rounds now, and 276 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 7: you know, I don't think that's necessarily an issue. Ballall 277 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 7: always comes in tremendous shape, but these are all factors 278 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 7: that need to be taken into consideration when deciding who 279 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 7: the hell is going to win this fight. 280 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 2: You know, And I can't speak to a lot of that, 281 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 2: certainly from a fighting standpoint, and your points are extremely 282 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 2: well taken. But we're all wired differently, right, and I 283 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 2: think Balal has a great ability to compartmentalize, right. And 284 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 2: you know, you talk about the emotion and everything with Jude, 285 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 2: the way who he's taken in that emotion. I mean 286 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 2: that was a few weeks ago, months ago, however long ago. 287 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: But Blal is so locked in everything's happening at the 288 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: right time for him. I just as long as he's 289 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: physically healthy and ready to go, I just really look 290 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: forward to seeing him perform. For me, it comes down 291 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 2: to thinking about the game plan. Thinking about what Leon's 292 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: game plan is three years ago to me is almost 293 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: totally irrelevant. Literally literally it's that long ago in terms 294 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: of Bloo's fighting career. But I'm just fascinated here what 295 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 2: Kenny's gonna have to say about this fight as we 296 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: get into the day, because I really I flow Below's 297 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 2: sick of me saying this, but I'll be running and 298 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 2: there'll be a track that'll come on and it's like 299 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: I'll just start sprinting just thinking about this fight. I 300 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: get goosebumps watching countdown and the emotion. I will say 301 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 2: people that noble ow the emotion is there, right, A 302 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 2: lot of people don't noble out. You know, they're gonna 303 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 2: get to know him. Talk to me chiwee wee's. Oh, 304 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: that's one thing that I wasn't able to get to. 305 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 2: A dominant Cruz my new favorite bandom weight not Dominant Cruz. 306 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: Please Rosas Junior. I'm gonna buy a black Trucker as well. 307 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 2: But if you're watching on YouTube, I got the red 308 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 2: Trucker going on, not now but right now? All right, 309 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: So chef Ian Laios's schedule to join us live from Manchester, 310 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 2: England here in about ten minutes. He messaged me on 311 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: the record, I've honestly never been part of a camp 312 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: that felt like my athlete did absolutely everything they needed to. 313 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 2: Haven't seen someone train as hard as him ever, right, 314 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: So for me, I'm just speculating what I see a 315 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 2: black eye on blow and I think, man, did this 316 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 2: dude overtrain? How could he not have? 317 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: Right? 318 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: Ken Flow obviously overtrained back. 319 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 4: In the day. 320 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 2: Do you want to interrupt me right now? You just 321 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 2: had a lot of airtime? Go ahead, no, please, well no, 322 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 2: I mean just I mean, you know a word like overtrain. 323 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's levels to overtrain. Can he talk to 324 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 2: GSP about overtraining for a fight? Even on episode five hundred? 325 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: So I was actually trying to move on from it 326 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: and not necessarily spend a full three hundred seconds on 327 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 2: this narrative. All of a sudden, Annix suggests that Muhammad 328 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 2: is overtrained for UFC three oh four. I think it's 329 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 2: impossible not to be when you are wired like blal 330 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: But as long as you're healthy, you know, and in 331 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 2: the right frame of mind. I think that's all good. 332 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 2: I just think there are going to be some ad 333 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 2: emotions when he hits the tunnel and the Palestinian flag 334 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: is flying and everything else. 335 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 3: You know. 336 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: I also believe Kenny, and I know you're waiting until 337 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 2: Wednesday or whatever to give your pick in the fight. 338 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: And I know you are in the Blao Muhammad business 339 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 2: right professionally speaking, Anakin Flora and LLC and all that stuff, right, 340 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: But Leon Edwards is an outstanding fighter, and I do 341 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: believe him to be the best welterweight in the world 342 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 2: right now, and I do believe it is going to 343 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 2: take blow Muhammad's absolute best on July twenty seventh to 344 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 2: beat him. I'm not sitting here saying that Leon beats 345 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 2: balal later nine out of ten times necessarily, But when 346 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: you break down this matchup, and when you look at 347 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 2: the stylistic differences, and when you look at the obvious 348 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 2: improvements on both sides and maybe some of the non 349 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 2: obvious and intangible improvements on both sides, you know, how 350 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 2: do you break down this championship main event? 351 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 7: Well, I think that it's pretty clear that Leon Edwards 352 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 7: is probably the most technical fighter in that division as 353 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 7: far as what he's capable of. Everything he does just 354 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 7: looks good. It's just Dick's book man. And you also 355 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 7: have to consider the fact that he's on quite the 356 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 7: wind streak against some phenomenal fighters, and he's experienced a 357 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 7: lot at this point. So I think confidence will be high, 358 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 7: or repeat confidence will be high. However, one thing is certain, 359 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 7: and Jason talked about this, the fact that you know 360 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,239 Speaker 7: what you're gonna get with Ballall. Ballall is always going 361 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 7: to show up to fight. 362 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 4: You know. 363 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 7: I actually watched their fight not too long ago, a 364 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 7: couple of days ago, their first meeting, their first encounter, 365 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 7: and to me, that was the only kind of outlier 366 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 7: in the performances of Blall. Why well, he took it 367 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 7: on short notice. He just looked a little hesitant. His 368 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 7: confidence wasn't there. And I think that what's interesting is 369 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 7: Ballall has made huge improvements. He's extremely motivated by this rematch, 370 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 7: the fact that it's the championship fight, and all those 371 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 7: other things that we've talked about, and Ballall is not 372 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 7: phenomenal at any one thing, but you know, I guess 373 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 7: we can compare it to something like, you know, the 374 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 7: king of the jungle, the lion. The lion is not 375 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 7: the biggest, it's not the smartest, it's not, you know, 376 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 7: the fastest, but it's the king of the jungle for 377 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 7: the reason because of all of those elements that you 378 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 7: put together. And I think that's what Ballall is able 379 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 7: to bring to this fight. It's how he puts it 380 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 7: all together. It's his decision making on fight night, it's 381 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 7: how he performs on fight night. And he has proven 382 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 7: that he has the toughness that when it comes down 383 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,479 Speaker 7: to him having to be a nail, he knows how 384 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 7: to come back. And I think that he's going to 385 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 7: need that against someone as technical and as dangerous and 386 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 7: precise as Leon Edwards. So to me, this is a 387 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 7: lot closer than people think, just based on Ballall's consistency 388 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 7: as a performer. 389 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 2: How good is Kenny? I mean, how good is Kenny? Any? 390 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 2: I want to ask you? 391 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 3: So? 392 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 2: May sixth, twenty twenty three, Blow Fights, Gilbert burns and 393 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 2: punches his ticket via Dana's words to the championship fight. 394 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 2: How much improvement a year and a quarter that Balal 395 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: has had knowing not only Leon's the guy, right, but 396 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 2: just to work on yourself, a guy that is married 397 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: to the game, right when you think about your career, 398 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 2: a fourteen month stretch to improve yourself where we haven't 399 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 2: seen balal other than clips of him training. 400 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, well that's the other thing, right, It's hard to 401 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 7: prepare for someone like that, especially given the fact that 402 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 7: you do see improvements over time. Ballall is always a 403 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 7: different dude every single time out, and he executes. He 404 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 7: knows how to execute. So for Leon, you hope that 405 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 7: he did not take this fight lightly. You go from 406 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 7: facing a guy in Kamara Usman who was the dude 407 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 7: in that division for a very long time, and now think, ah, 408 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 7: the law I already you know, I made easy work 409 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 7: of him the first time around. Yes, there was the 410 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 7: ipokes and YadA, YadA, YadA, but he's not at the 411 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 7: level of so someone like Kamara, who's this would be 412 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 7: the biggest mistake of his life and of his career 413 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 7: you cannot. 414 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 3: Take ye right. 415 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just there's a zero percent chance. And this 416 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 2: is not me saying yeah, but this is not the 417 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 2: cloth from which he has cut, right, There's a zero 418 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 2: percent chance that Leon Edwards took the Law Muhammad lightly 419 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 2: because you can't take the hardest working guy in the 420 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: division or the consensus hard working guy lightly. You just can't, 421 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 2: you know. And I just feel like Leon Edwards is 422 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 2: still sort of criminally underappreciated. 423 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 4: You know. 424 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: I get asked a lot about like Leon pound for 425 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 2: pound versus like Islamikashev, and I do think those guys 426 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 2: are neck and neck, and I think this matchup affords 427 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 2: Leon a great opportunity to prove once again his well roundedness. 428 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 2: And when Kenny talks about how technical Leon is, like 429 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 2: even his takedown defense, Dude, it's fun to watch him 430 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 2: defend a fucking takedown. And you said something that I 431 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 2: had in my notes in terms of blal and his 432 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 2: best MMA attribute or asset or skill, and you said 433 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 2: something to the effect of, you know, maybe he doesn't 434 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 2: do any one thing as a ten right right, And 435 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 2: he said of Leon Edwards's head kick, Kenny, he called 436 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 2: it sort of like a hail mary. And I don't 437 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 2: necessarily see Leon's headkick as any sort of hail mary. 438 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 2: I think he could land it, you know, twenty times 439 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 2: in a fight and put your lights out. And even 440 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 2: in the first fight he blocked it partially did Balal, 441 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 2: and it still caused blade drunk driving on his feet. 442 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 2: So one thing I'm going to ask Leon in the 443 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 2: fighter media is what is the one thing you know, 444 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 2: what is the one thing or two things that are 445 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 2: areas of focus when it comes to Blao Muhammad or 446 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 2: is it just general terms. 447 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 7: Well, the other thing to consider is the weaponized cardio 448 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 7: that we talked about so often. And what Leon does 449 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 7: really well is he's able to manage his energy extremely well. 450 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 7: Why Because he's extremely technical. He knows how to slow 451 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 7: the fight down at the right times. Bolall knows how 452 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 7: to push on the fighter at the right time, So 453 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,239 Speaker 7: he knows how to push that conditioning. He knows how 454 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 7: to get that other fighter to work much harder than 455 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 7: he probably wants to. And I think that should be 456 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 7: an element to this fight here against Leon Edwards, because 457 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 7: if Leon is comfortable, he's winning just straight up, because 458 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 7: he's gonna be the more technical fighter against ninety nine 459 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 7: point nine percent of the division. He knows how to 460 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 7: do that. So Balall's got to find a way to 461 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 7: get Leon Edwards to work much harder than he is 462 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 7: than he wants to. I think that's huge. And you 463 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 7: know who knows if Ballall is kind of saying that 464 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 7: to maybe get inside, you know, the heads of the 465 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 7: head of Edwards. In regards to that left kick, I 466 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 7: don't think it's a hail Mary strike by any means. 467 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 7: It's one that he throws very often, and because he's 468 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 7: in that self past stance very often, you are in 469 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 7: the way. There's no other thing. Again, I was a 470 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 7: self power for a long time. It's very difficult to 471 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 7: block and see that kick when you're facing a self 472 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 7: Paul who knows how to use that roundhouse left kick. 473 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 7: So it's an but I have to imagine just based 474 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 7: on the preparation of Bala Mohammed, he's gonna be ready 475 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 7: for that left kick. 476 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm like half here. I'm so fucking excited. 477 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 2: I'm like half here. I can't as my as my 478 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 2: as my guy. I'm like, you know, all right, Well, 479 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 2: good news headlines today brought to you by Cuervo. 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How we doing, good afternoon, 486 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: what's going on? 487 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 4: What's going on? 488 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 5: Good to see you too. 489 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 2: So another high profile fight week for you, But obviously 490 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 2: there have been weeks on the front end of this. 491 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 2: So when did you get to Chicago, Illinois? Look at 492 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 2: this guy repping young La, loud and proud by the way, 493 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: So when did you get to Chicago? And how have 494 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 2: the last several weeks or days been with the number 495 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 2: one contender? 496 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: They've been great. You know, as you said, the law 497 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: is just a man. He's a one of a kind human. 498 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: About five five weeks ago I got there, so flew 499 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: in from Bali and this is our longest camp together 500 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: and he's dialed in. You know, I've been lucky to 501 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: be part of a lot of world title camps, and 502 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: this one just feels different in terms of the work 503 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: that's been put in, just his mentality, just him as 504 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: a person. And you know, the work he's been putting 505 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: in is the second to none. 506 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 4: So I've. 507 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: He's ready. 508 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 2: He's ready, son, right, He's ready. Go ahead, Johne, and 509 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 2: I'm so fucking fired up. See in a couple of days, chef, 510 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 2: go ahead, John. 511 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 7: Kenny all you and I wanted to ask you know, so, 512 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 7: what what does your involvement in the camp look like? 513 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 4: What is it? 514 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 7: What is the typical day in your life? 515 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: And for Belall, honestly just trying and make the wall 516 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: his life easier in terms of nutrition and performance, so 517 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: everything that kind of entails that, go to training with them, 518 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: watch him train other than sparrow them sometimes if I 519 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: have to, and just kind of just make adjustments based 520 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: off how he's feeling and how he's recovering. I grew 521 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: up cooking and I went to school for nutrition, so 522 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: I kind of combined the two. And h Ballall loves 523 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 1: to eat, so he's so excited each time. I kind 524 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: of curate these meals based off kind of the foods 525 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: he likes and everything. So it makes it special because 526 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: with him, you know, I can see how hard he works, 527 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: and I get to be a part of that too, 528 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: because I love training myself and I love being around 529 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: people that love to push themselves, you know, like guys 530 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: like Paul Felder that I've worked with. Two guys are 531 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: just absolute dogs and love to just push themselves, like 532 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: to the to the ultimately limit. And He's been doing 533 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: that for more than five you know, I've been with 534 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: him five six weeks now, and he's been doing that 535 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: long before I got there. So yeah, just kind of 536 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: customizing where where his weight's at, and then how he's 537 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: how he's recovering during during training, and then more so 538 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: just how he's feeling nutrition. 539 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 7: And I guess cooking in general is such an interesting thing, 540 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 7: just because you feel like sometimes there's different approaches or 541 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 7: people have different takes on things and what's important, what's not, 542 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 7: and what you need to do, and of course you 543 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 7: have the whole weight cutting element where you don't want 544 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 7: to be putting on a ton of weight. What do 545 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 7: you think is the thing that has changed the most 546 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 7: in regards to nutrition and fight prep for food? I 547 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 7: guess over the last few years, is there something that 548 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 7: has changed dramatically? Is there pretty much the same stuff? 549 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: I think it's changed pretty drastically. I think a lot 550 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: of athletes prior, you know, I think that eating less 551 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: is going to help them. And I think guys relationship 552 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: with food and realizing that, you know, it has a 553 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: lot to do with performance and preparing early. That's the 554 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: biggest things I try to tell all these guys, the 555 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: more you could be prepared for the weight cut and 556 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: the more you can control your weight outside of camp, 557 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: the easier these things become. You know, if you're blowing up. 558 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: And obviously it's hard not to enjoy, you know, the 559 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: fruits of your labor and go out and enjoy these things. 560 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: But the end of the day, like these opportunities don't 561 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: come very often, and if you're unprepared for them, like 562 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: the last, the last thing you would do is miss 563 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: it up, miss out on a huge opportunity. 564 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 4: Because your weight. 565 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: It'd be a silly reason to you know, you know, 566 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: not achieve your dream just because of like some small 567 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 1: things having outside of training. But I do think that 568 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: the biggest thing is like guys managing their weight outside 569 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: of camp and just being full time athletes. Guys like 570 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: Belall you know that train year around. A lot of 571 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: guys do training around, but they're not you know, they're 572 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: not dedicated in that sense year around, right, and it shows, 573 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: you know, if you're cutting, you know, if you're gaining 574 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: fifty pounds between between fights, like you don't see that 575 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: in other sports. I mean sometimes I guess in baseball 576 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: you see some of these guys take some time off 577 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: in game, but like there's it's not a weight class 578 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: for it, so they could come back heavy, and like 579 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: guys could have an opinion about it. If it's not 580 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: affecting their performance there that there's not really much people 581 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: can do about it. But if you're coming in heavy 582 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: into in the fight camps and missing weight or having 583 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: you know, blackluster performances, obviously people are gonna have opinions 584 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: about it, and you can obviously be fined and everything 585 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: on top of that. 586 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've seen Balal even when Leon had 587 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 2: a fight on the books against Colby, like barely take 588 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 2: a bite of a dessert, you know, not even out 589 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 2: of you know, out of camp, you know, with a 590 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 2: camping behind him. But I want to ask you, so 591 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 2: you're a runner. I know you're a runner. Blal is 592 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 2: not built like a runner, right, so I know you know, 593 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 2: it's built like a beagle. 594 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 4: So he's been he's been running a lot. 595 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 3: Actually I love it there he is. 596 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 4: Who's at a runner? Boy? 597 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 2: Let's go. 598 00:28:59,440 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 4: Boys? 599 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 3: This is I can't. 600 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 7: People are looking at me, They're like, man, how did 601 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 7: he past you? 602 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 5: What did he take in this? 603 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 4: This? And this? 604 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 2: I'm thinking Ian Larry the guy out there. 605 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 4: This is the guy right here. 606 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 2: Look at the time. Have you ever looked so handsome? 607 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 2: I mean, you look ten, You look fit. The black 608 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 2: guy seemingly is gone. 609 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 4: You look great. I'd rather feeling good, feeling happy right now. 610 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 7: Uh we just had breakfast and uh me and Ian 611 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 7: about going to run extly. 612 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 2: All right, well we'll only keep him for like five 613 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 2: more minutes. We didn't want to bother you. But you know, 614 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 2: some people might talk about me saying something about you 615 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 2: being like overtrained or something, and like that's not what 616 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 2: I was getting. Like, is somebody like you who is 617 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 2: the hardest worker in the room. Do you ever think 618 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 2: about that or have conversations with Mike Valley or Ian 619 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 2: about like being overtrained? Like do you ever take days off? 620 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 5: Or no? 621 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:50,479 Speaker 4: No, not at all. 622 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 8: Like even now with Ian living with me, he's flowed 623 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 8: me down, But now with him, I have all the 624 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 8: right fuel before he got there, Like like you said, fighters, 625 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 8: we don't know what eat Like I was, I'll eat 626 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 8: like a chicken breast thing and that's enough. But now 627 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 8: he's giving me full plate of food with potatoes and stuff, 628 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 8: and it makes me think that I need to work harder. 629 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 8: So he's given me the extra calities and stuff that 630 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 8: I need to push through that practice. And I it 631 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 8: doesn't feel like I've overtrained it off. It feels like 632 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 8: I'm perfect right now. 633 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 3: This is the best I ever felt. 634 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 4: And uh, Saturday night. 635 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 2: You get this is the best of every eould Look, dude, 636 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 2: I sat my kids down to watch the Countdown special yesterday. 637 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 2: I'm not sure Balal if you've seen it. Uh seeing 638 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 2: you crying? I mean, dude, I was bawling my eyes out. 639 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 2: I mean even the third time I watched it, I couldn't. 640 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 2: I couldn't hold back. 641 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 8: No, Yeah, honestly, that was It was a poor and 642 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 8: it was it was huge that the the US put 643 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 8: that into the Countdown And it's amazing that people's actually 644 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 8: are like seeing in and noticing it. 645 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 2: And uh yeah, it's just a different side of you, right. 646 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 4: But I'm just glad that you had got his TV time. 647 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 648 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, starting now, it's awesome. 649 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 8: Coking a lot of responsible for people that are like, hey, yeah, 650 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 8: we're gonna send them clothes, We're gonna send it this. 651 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 4: So he's a superstar. 652 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm trying to give your super star chef 653 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 2: his camera time. So Jay, unless Kenny have anything else 654 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 2: for let's go tell love you still Jacks you soon brother. 655 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 2: There he is number one Welterway contenter Balal remember the 656 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 2: name Muhammad Chefy and Laios joining us here on the 657 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 2: Anakin Florian podcast. So I have a few more for 658 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 2: you if you don't mind. So in terms of the 659 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 2: weight cut, right, Balal has obviously weighed in as a backup, 660 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 2: and I would imagine you guys weren't necessarily aligned for 661 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 2: a lot of that. He has weighed on short notice 662 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,719 Speaker 2: against Gilbert Burns, and I believe that weight cut, if 663 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, was particularly challenging. I'd imagine you feel 664 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 2: pretty confident right now relative to those two experiences. 665 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, it's one of those things that like Blall 666 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: trusted me enough where I'm lily when text his weight, 667 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: so it's not something that's on his mind. And I 668 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: think that like shows how much trust he has in me, 669 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: just because you don't have to think about it. In 670 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: the days where he sees he's eating more food, obviously 671 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: subconsciously he knows that I'm probably a way ahead of schedule. 672 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 4: That's why he's feeding me more so. 673 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: The biggest thing with that is more so just kind 674 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: of just keeping him dialed in and keeping him fat obviously, 675 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: like he said, and like I've said before, he's the 676 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: hardest worker in the room. So sometimes it's about pulling 677 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: him back. 678 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 4: Even on his slow days are on his off. 679 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: Days on Sundays, we're still working out two times a day, 680 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's more like a swim and then we'll 681 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: do like an active recovery. 682 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 3: Session like a hot Yeah. 683 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: But I'm like, on some people's regular schedule, that's a workout, 684 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,959 Speaker 1: you know, for him, that's a that's a lazy Sunday, right, Right, 685 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: So it helps me really wrap my head around like 686 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: how like how dedicated he is, and like it helps 687 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: me obviously get better too, because we're fueling for that, 688 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: right obviously, the different type of athlete that is constantly 689 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: in the gym, and I have no issue feeding him more. 690 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: If anything, that's that's my goal with all my guys. 691 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 4: I hate I hate weight cutting. 692 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: I've obviously made a career around it, right, I hate 693 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,959 Speaker 1: that aspect of it. I hate that, like I mean, 694 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: you you guys have all seen it can obviously been 695 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: part of it where it's it's one of this like 696 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: it's like a black eye on the sport. You know, 697 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: these guys that these guys and girls that put themselves 698 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: through hell before they have to walk in the cage 699 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: and do it again. It's it's just one of those 700 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: things that I want to change culture around that, and 701 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: guys like him, you know, are helping me do that. 702 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 3: I'm pretty like low key on. 703 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: Social media and you start pushing more, more stuff, But 704 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: that's the goal, having guys fully fed, fully fueled, and 705 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: then obviously mildly dehydrated if they have to be, but 706 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: to the extremes of you know, where I've had to 707 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: go before, and you know, it's kind of what I 708 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: want to. 709 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 4: Get away from. 710 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: And obviously with him, the more time we have, the 711 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: easier that gets in, the less you know impactful that is. 712 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 4: On you know, his long term health and his performance. 713 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 2: So Blaal and I have talked about obviously waking up 714 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 2: in the middle of the night fighting Leon in the 715 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 2: middle of the streets. It doesn't matter what time the 716 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 2: fight is at, but just curious if you can shine 717 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,239 Speaker 2: a little bit of light on what you guys are 718 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 2: trying to do from a sleep standpoint. 719 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's super interesting. Obviously, it's crazy, crazy time 720 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:01,719 Speaker 1: to be fighting. 721 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 3: But we got in here. 722 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: We kind of pushed yesterday. 723 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,959 Speaker 4: But he'll be He woke up at three. 724 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: Pm today, went to bed at seven am, yes, in 725 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: the morning, and so he's getting he's he's sleeping like 726 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: a rock. 727 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 4: We get the place. 728 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 3: We're saying, that's beautiful. 729 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 4: It's black. The room's all blacked out. 730 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: He's just got white noise in his room, so he 731 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: really can't hear anything. So we're just we wake up 732 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: at you know, three pm. I'm down here with some 733 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: coffee for him. 734 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 4: I said, good morning, and we just move about. 735 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: You know, we mentally prepare for it being in the 736 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: morning at you know, three pm, and we're kind of 737 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: starting our day now. So right now it's four oh five, 738 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: and we're gonna get our first work out in, have 739 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: some lunch probably around five thirty, and then we're gonna 740 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: try to you know, stay up until about seven am 741 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: and then yeah, so he's he's doing everything he can 742 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: kind of adjust. He's sleeping good, and that's the biggest thing. 743 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: If you can wake up, you know, on fight day 744 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: around you know, around around midnight one am, probably he'll 745 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: probably end up waking up around eleven or so, and 746 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: then we'll just go about our day like that, a 747 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 1: little like a little nap before and then and kind 748 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: of go about it like that. But which that's the 749 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: way that me and Charles from the p I have 750 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: kind of been can been working on a schedule of 751 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: acclimating because obviously there's probably no right way to go 752 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 1: about it. But as long as he's you know, sleeping 753 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: eight eight nine hours and waking up three four pm 754 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,919 Speaker 1: and then eating, fueling and then probably taking a nap, 755 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: he'll he'll be ready to rock come come four five am, 756 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 1: whatever time it ends up being. Uh, he's been mentally 757 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: prepared for like I said, Like you said, he's ready 758 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: to find. 759 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 4: Him in the street at you know, five am. 760 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 1: So he's he's more than prepared if he's if he's 761 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: got eight hours of sleep, he'll be. 762 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 3: Good to go. 763 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 2: All right, Got about a minute left with chef Ian 764 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 2: Larios on location with the lam Mohammad in Manchester, England. 765 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,760 Speaker 2: And as your friend, hopefully I'm pronouncing your last name right, Larios, Marios, 766 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:02,720 Speaker 2: Larios right, God, all right, So your contributions obviously extend 767 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 2: beyond cooking and nutrition, right, You're a byproduct of the 768 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 2: people you surround yourself with. And even though maybe it's 769 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 2: a wayward decision by blow to align with Jason anak Here, 770 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 2: I think Ian Laios is a great person to be 771 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 2: part of Bellow's inner circle. 772 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 7: I will leave you with this. 773 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 2: I had a colonoscopy last Wednesday and I ended up 774 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 2: being the last patient at five forty five pm Eastern. 775 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 2: So I kind of mismanaged the fasting, so to speak. 776 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 2: I didn't ingest really any chicken broth or anything, and 777 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 2: it ended up instead of being like a twenty four 778 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 2: hour fast, about forty six hours. Bro Dude, I was 779 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 2: I couldn't even grab my phone out of my pocket 780 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 2: to text yeah. So I don't know if you have 781 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 2: any suggestions in the future for how I can handle that, 782 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 2: but I was able to uh maybe relate for at 783 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 2: least a few hours as to what some of these 784 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:57,399 Speaker 2: athletes go through. 785 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 1: So yeah, no, I think it is good. I mean, 786 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people that have opinions about athletes missing wait. 787 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: Obviously there's a lot of mistakes that can happen, but 788 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: especially the online community that attacks these more so women 789 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 1: than anything. I think some of these guys that have 790 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: an opinion about athletes missing waid and just cutting weight 791 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: in general need to just do that a day themselves. Yeah, 792 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: you know, it's easy to sit and have an opinion. 793 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: Obviously mistakes were made, but it's like things happen, and uh, 794 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: it's rough. So the more and more education, the more 795 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: and more people that can get out there and like 796 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 1: help these athletes and be there for them, the better 797 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 1: also be because yeah, it's one dangerous thing to another 798 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: dangerous thing. 799 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 2: So yeah, I hate that. 800 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 4: I hate that idea. 801 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 1: And even though that I'm like a big part of 802 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 1: kind of weight cutting, I think changing the culture around it. 803 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: You know, guys like Tyler Minon, guys like their opinion, 804 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,800 Speaker 1: you know, are are doing these things trying to you know, 805 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,280 Speaker 1: build and then Jordie Sullivan who works with Leon Edwards 806 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: and I have So it's one of those things where 807 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: it's like we're all we're not competiting. I like to 808 00:37:58,680 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: think of us as not competitors. 809 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 3: You know, we're all guys that love. 810 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: The sport and love of our athletes and at the 811 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: end of the day, they have to go out there 812 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: and fight. 813 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 4: But I don't look at it as a competitive thing. 814 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 1: I think the more like minded coaches that are out 815 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: there and you know, help athletes the better along with 816 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: the performances the UFC bringing them in and giving the 817 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 1: athletes to take advantage of it. You know, at the 818 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: end of the day, they have access to some of 819 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: the best in the world. 820 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,720 Speaker 2: Two of the finest though in nutrition on both sides 821 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 2: of this main event. Leon Edwards and Bala Muhammad. If 822 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 2: you want more from me and Laios at Chef Larios 823 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 2: and also follow at Larios dot Kitchen. We wish you 824 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 2: all the best with that new endeavor. And if I 825 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 2: ever cut down to one hundred and twenty five pounds 826 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 2: to fight this motherfucker in the red shirt that I'm 827 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 2: staring at right now, You're my guy. You know, there 828 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:44,879 Speaker 2: are a lot of good men out there, but you're 829 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 2: my guy. All right, buddy, we'll see it a few days. 830 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 2: We appreciate a few minutes. Chefs there is with us 831 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 2: here on the Anik and Florian podcast. Nice to see 832 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 2: Balal for a few minutes as well. All right, we 833 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 2: still have a lot of things to get into. Ray 834 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 2: Longo coming up here in about five minutes. Daniel Cormier 835 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,919 Speaker 2: also scheduled to join us this hour and then coming 836 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 2: up on Wednesday of this week, Ken Flow will be 837 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 2: making nine predictions for UFC three to OHO four. I'm 838 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 2: looking at the early prelims. I'm seeing RoboCop Rodriguez against 839 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 2: Cold Christian Leroy Duncan. Kenflo has got to pick that 840 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 2: early prelm. That's just the way it fucking goes, all right, 841 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 2: A lot to get into, Vienna Jeni Doba, Platinum, Mike 842 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 2: Perry in defeat against Jake Paul, and of course plenty 843 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 2: more coming up on UFC three oh four. But Kenny, 844 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 2: if we could begin here with Vienna Kakara, Jeni Doba 845 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 2: and uh as I said last week, right, she has 846 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 2: developed and evolved sort of on the UFC stage in 847 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,280 Speaker 2: front of our eyes, and now all of a sudden, 848 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 2: I know it seems like Tatiana Suaz is going to 849 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 2: be next for jeangwe Lee. But you know, Vina joan 850 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 2: Ji Doba is a title contender and her next fight 851 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 2: is probably gonna be for a world championship. Used a 852 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,879 Speaker 2: lot of your money on her. She gets she gets 853 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 2: it done by armbar in round two. 854 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 7: Thank you for playing that, Cody, because I maybe it 855 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 7: was me, maybe it was John, was both of us. 856 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 7: There was some Brazilian guy over there just kind of 857 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,919 Speaker 7: berating us for pronouncing it in that way. It's like, dude, 858 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 7: that's the way she pronounces it. Anyways, she looked fantastic, man. 859 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,760 Speaker 7: And again, when you are that high level of a grappler, 860 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 7: especially in my opinion, in the women's divisions, it's a 861 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 7: style that can really go very far. And Lamos is 862 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 7: a Brazilian jiu jitsu black belt herself, but there's levels 863 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 7: to the game. There's a lot of Brazilian jiu jitsu 864 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 7: black belts these days, but not so many that are 865 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 7: at the level of RNA Judge Dooba. And you could 866 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 7: see if she just really took over, you know, even 867 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 7: when Lamos was in that guillotine, she was just staying calm. 868 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 7: It really wasn't that close. She was able to, you know, 869 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 7: advance her position and just kind of looked like a 870 00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 7: juggernaut on the ground. And Lemos just I feel she 871 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 7: has so much talent but just hasn't been able to 872 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 7: kind of manage the emotional element of her game. She 873 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 7: is extremely potent as a striker, and I think she 874 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 7: has a lot of talent on the ground as well, 875 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:20,240 Speaker 7: but Jenidoba just too good there, and that was the difference. 876 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 7: She has excellent takedowns, she has excellent positioning, she stays 877 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,800 Speaker 7: very composed, and I think she's gonna be a problem 878 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 7: even for someone as high level as Waylee. 879 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 2: Sometimes I get scared referring to athletes as Brazilian jiu 880 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,319 Speaker 2: jitsu black belts in front of Kenny, because even though 881 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,839 Speaker 2: their fighter bio says it, I feel like his inner 882 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 2: monologue is like, yeah, okay, dude, you know and who 883 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 2: is that under and oh two years of training BJJ 884 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 2: black belt? 885 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 5: Wow? 886 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:55,399 Speaker 2: Wow Okay, So Steve Garcia mean machine. And I don't 887 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,760 Speaker 2: mean to discredit Vinga jenjidb, but do you have anything 888 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 2: on Vianan Jenjidoba. We were actually watching with your wife 889 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 2: and she was a little bit off put by the 890 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 2: visual at first of the you know, lazy eye and 891 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 2: right in the inspection zone. But no, if you want, 892 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 2: I just thought a real high level fight and for 893 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 2: Jeni dob but leamos Is is a problem. So for 894 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:20,399 Speaker 2: her to eliminate someone like that in that fashion too, yeah, 895 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 2: big win for Vienna Jangi Doba. So as I'm watching 896 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 2: Steve Garcia's career play out and if you don't know 897 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 2: nickname mean machine Jackson wink Mma. He's now won four 898 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 2: straight all by finish as he gets it done here 899 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 2: and what was elevated to the Komain event. The TKO 900 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 2: comes at one thirty six of round one, fifty thousand 901 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,760 Speaker 2: dollars bonus for Steve Garcia and Kenny. Throughout his career, 902 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 2: I've never fancied him like a future UFC champion. I'm 903 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 2: not even sure I envisioned him as a top ten guy. 904 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 2: This is a division in which it is very hard 905 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 2: to string together four straight wins, never mind finishes. So 906 00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 2: I guess my question is how high is the ceiling? 907 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 2: Is it fifteen for Steve Garcia? And how is he 908 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,720 Speaker 2: continuously getting it done in a lot of big spots. 909 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,880 Speaker 7: Well, truth be told, I think it's a little too 910 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 7: early to tell at this stage of the game, but 911 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,800 Speaker 7: based on his last performance, man, he looked phenomenal. Just 912 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 7: look sharp, look really dialed in, and I think he 913 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,439 Speaker 7: definitely deserves a higher level opponent at this point. Yeah, 914 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 7: but man, I'm kind of regretting my decision because I 915 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 7: initially I had him jotted down for I think four 916 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 7: hundred or five hundred bucks. I scratched it out, made 917 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 7: it two hundred because I was a little hesitant. Anyways, 918 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,839 Speaker 7: I should have gone with my original decision. He looked great, man, 919 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 7: He really looked really, really good, and I want to 920 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 7: see him against a higher level guy to get a 921 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 7: better gauge on how good he really is. But yeah, 922 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 7: I'm excited about his future. 923 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,359 Speaker 2: Ken Flow obviously on a microphone, always used to talk 924 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 2: about finishes in his post fight interviews when he actually 925 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 2: had a Boston accent back in the day. And Steve 926 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,280 Speaker 2: Garcia has talked a lot about finishes. Our fighter meetings. 927 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 2: Longest active UFC finished streaks right now, shovkott Rochmanov has 928 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:10,439 Speaker 2: finished sixth straight opponents Joe Anderson, Brito five, Carlos Alberg five, 929 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 2: and then tied with four Steve Garcia and Bruno Silva. 930 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 2: So congratulations to a good dude, me and machine Steve Garcia. 931 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,439 Speaker 2: And I know I'm just picking out one individual case, 932 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,399 Speaker 2: but just to see a fighter Kenny sort of change 933 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 2: their lives financially when maybe they don't get off to 934 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 2: this amazing start in the UFC, and then to be 935 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 2: in this position out and get the bonus. It's like 936 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 2: I envisioned a lot of like tearful conversations with spouses. 937 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:37,319 Speaker 3: Well. 938 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,280 Speaker 7: And it's especially cool, John, because now you can invest 939 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 7: that much more into your training. Like when I got 940 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 7: to that level where I can go wait a sec 941 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 7: so I can travel here, I can bring guys in 942 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 7: for training. It just it takes everything up to the 943 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 7: next level again, when you eventually get to the level 944 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 7: of something like Balah Mohammed where you can bring in 945 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 7: a private shift to cook all your meals. These are 946 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,400 Speaker 7: things that make your camps better and it makes you 947 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 7: better as a fighter. So these are the things you 948 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,800 Speaker 7: can reinvest into yourself. And I imagine someone as serious 949 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 7: as Steve Garcia is going to be able to do 950 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 7: that now. 951 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 2: All right, So Jason and I got together and watched 952 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 2: Platinum Mike Perry and Jake Paul live on pay per view, 953 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 2: and gosh, there is so much written and said about 954 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 2: Jake Paul and about this fight, and uh, it just 955 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 2: drew sort of a wry smile from Kenflow there as 956 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,360 Speaker 2: I brought up this boxing pay per view. So, Platinum 957 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 2: Mike Perry is a friend of mine. You know, I 958 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 2: blindly support that man on pay per view. This was 959 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 2: a mismatch. Perry twice in his post fight interview talked 960 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 2: about just the speed. There's definite boxing ability and power 961 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,320 Speaker 2: and a lot of correct work being done by Jake Paul. 962 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 2: But Kenny, it is amazing to me when I go 963 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 2: to MMA fighting dot Com and the amount of content 964 00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 2: on Jake Paul at these MMA websites such that he 965 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 2: must be driving some serious traffic. So I don't know 966 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 2: where you stand on Jake Paul as we sit here 967 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,839 Speaker 2: mid July twenty twenty four, but this was another good 968 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 2: night for him, and i'd imagine, you know, sets him 969 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 2: up for another big payday and a lot more attention. 970 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,839 Speaker 7: Well, you know the Ben Askrin fight aside, I believe 971 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,839 Speaker 7: that was the only one that I picked Jake Paul 972 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 7: to win. But at a certain point you got to say, Okay, 973 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 7: well he's doing things right, not only in picking the 974 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,360 Speaker 7: right fights right, picking the right opponents, but in the 975 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,400 Speaker 7: way that he's preparing for these fights and the way 976 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 7: that he's executing quite frankly, and he's looking great. I 977 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 7: didn't see the whole fight. I saw the last finishing 978 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 7: sequence of their fight. But Mike Perry is a guy 979 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 7: who's gonna get in your face, and when you think 980 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 7: you have him hurt, he's gonna get right back into 981 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 7: your face and throw a shot that's probably gonna land, 982 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 7: that's gonna hurt you right back. And I think the 983 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 7: fact that Jake Paul was able to fight a guy 984 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,239 Speaker 7: as dangerous as Mike Perry with that kind to the 985 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 7: style shows that you know, listen, this guy knows how 986 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 7: to strike man, and he was certainly the bigger guy 987 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 7: from what I could see he's doing. He's putting in 988 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,359 Speaker 7: the work. There's no question about if there's a lot 989 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,840 Speaker 7: of other things that he could do to make money. 990 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 7: Obviously very wealthy already, he doesn't need to do this, 991 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 7: but he's chosen to do this, and he's doing it 992 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 7: against some pretty dangerous guys and coming out to Victor, 993 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 7: and I think all you could do is kind of, 994 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 7: you know, clap your hands and go, well, good job, man, 995 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 7: You're doing it against some really badass dudes who've been 996 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 7: doing this a lot longer than you. 997 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I have a lot of respect for 998 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 2: Jake Paul and watching him like that, jab is quick. 999 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 2: He definitely looks faster than Mike Perry. But when Mike 1000 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,279 Speaker 2: Perry's weighing in, I think at one ninety six trying 1001 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,359 Speaker 2: to get up to two hundred and Jake Paul's cutting 1002 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 2: to two hundred whatever they are in fight night, Like, 1003 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 2: you know, the size just really makes a difference for me. 1004 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 2: And it's like, like, let Jamal Hill go in there, 1005 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 2: let's see how it goes, you know. But I respect 1006 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 2: Jake Paul up. But we got to talk. I mean 1007 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 2: that knockout in that third fight from the top. Yeah, 1008 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,360 Speaker 2: we'll talk about the Lucas Body six round knockout. I 1009 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,319 Speaker 2: think maybe Ray Longo might have seen that we are 1010 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 2: having some technical issues with Ray long Go. I think 1011 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 2: I'm actually hearing him fucking backstage right now. But when 1012 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 2: we get Ray, we'll get to him in a minute. 1013 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, man, like I try not to be too critical. 1014 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,400 Speaker 2: I have been very supportive of Jake Paul as a worker, 1015 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,759 Speaker 2: and there's a lot of people who don't want to 1016 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,040 Speaker 2: give him his due. A lot of people suggest performance 1017 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 2: enhancing drugs. But Kenny, Yeah, like every time I watch 1018 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,239 Speaker 2: him compete, the dude he's competing with is either coming 1019 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 2: from another sport or half the fucking size. Like, so, 1020 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,800 Speaker 2: I know he called out Alexi Padda, And I know 1021 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 2: there have been opponents of Jake Paul that have not 1022 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,320 Speaker 2: been half his size, Anderson Silva and others, right, but like, 1023 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 2: I don't know, man like Mike Perry in there is 1024 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 2: half as fast, probably half as naturally powerful, maybe twice 1025 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 2: as tough. But he looked half the fucking size. He's 1026 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 2: a UFC welterwig. Bro, you know, it's even money for 1027 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 2: a knockdown, for Mike Perry to get knocked down. Hay 1028 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 2: and Iverson play that shout out, hey give picks, But bro, 1029 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,479 Speaker 2: I mean, he's not Jake Paul's knock down everyone. 1030 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:09,919 Speaker 3: He's fun. 1031 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 2: Well, when you're you're you're like part time unemployed, what 1032 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,759 Speaker 2: are you doing? Exactly? I said out after the fact, 1033 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,319 Speaker 2: I should have invested, Like if I'm Ken Flow right now, 1034 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,399 Speaker 2: ken Flow has partial free agency right now, sorry we're live. 1035 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 2: If that's like speaking out a turn, you know, But 1036 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 2: like Kenny leaves so much money on the table. 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All right, now we bring on 1069 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,800 Speaker 2: and maybe we're not there yet with Ray Longo, but 1070 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,120 Speaker 2: at some point we're going to bring on maybe the 1071 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 2: biggest MMA fan. I know I was going to introduce 1072 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,360 Speaker 2: him as the biggest mixed Martial arts fan. I know 1073 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 2: we're working on Ray Longo right now. His computer lost 1074 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,719 Speaker 2: the camera. Then let's talk about Bala Muhammed, Right, I mean, 1075 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,239 Speaker 2: Kenny when you see him, right, and I know it's 1076 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 2: a few days out, but dude got to Manchester. I 1077 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,319 Speaker 2: mean it's like you know John said to me yesterday, right, 1078 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,360 Speaker 2: how he's reving his face. Well, no, I don't mind 1079 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 2: when you take the reins. I don't love when you 1080 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 2: transition completely off topic, but it's fine. Oh, we want 1081 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,439 Speaker 2: to talk about Jake Paul, Mike Perry. So Kenny John 1082 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,480 Speaker 2: said to me, and I'm paraphrasing, you know, want to 1083 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 2: make sure that when I'm around Balal this week if 1084 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 2: I am just you know, he was like, you know, 1085 00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,439 Speaker 2: less is more. He basically John doesn't want me around 1086 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,719 Speaker 2: Blal rudded in my mouth all the time. And what 1087 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,200 Speaker 2: I want to say to you is, like you see 1088 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 2: him on screen there, It's like, that's the last thing 1089 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 2: I'm worried about. He's just built differently like he you 1090 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:55,360 Speaker 2: feel me, like his energy, he's genuinely relaxed. He's not 1091 00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,279 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So I'm not concerned at 1092 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,279 Speaker 2: all about my behavior you're around Balaal because that don't matter. 1093 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 2: That's not gonna matter Sunday morning. 1094 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,640 Speaker 7: Well, I'll say this, he clearly is a competitor and 1095 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 7: he performs no matter what, and that usually is addicative 1096 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,480 Speaker 7: of someone who keeps his composure and knows how to 1097 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,840 Speaker 7: manage that stuff. So yeah, I agree, I agree. You know, 1098 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,560 Speaker 7: like anytime someone else was fighting, I'd always kind of 1099 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,440 Speaker 7: be a little bit more reserved, a little more, you know. 1100 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,400 Speaker 7: I don't try not to get him too fired up. 1101 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 7: You know that that's my approach. But like everyone's different. 1102 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,160 Speaker 7: But Belah is the kind of dude who I think 1103 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 7: is he's gonna he's gonna perform the way he performs, 1104 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:34,799 Speaker 7: no matter what I. 1105 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,759 Speaker 2: A I was gonna ask Ray Longo just about the 1106 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 2: people you surround yourself with, and Kenny, certainly, I was 1107 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 2: gonna bring you into that conversation because everybody brings a 1108 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 2: different energy or checks a different box. And Balaal has 1109 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,400 Speaker 2: his brothers around. Obviously, Lewis Taylor provides tremendous energy. Obviously 1110 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 2: he likes whatever you bring to the table. Having you around, 1111 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,600 Speaker 2: you know, I'd imagine you'd probably be like on call. 1112 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 2: If he wants you to come over the house and 1113 00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 2: entertain him for a little bit, take your shirt off. 1114 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,400 Speaker 2: Whatever you guys do, you'll do it, you know this, musy. 1115 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,160 Speaker 2: But I'm not necessarily saying that I've been necessarily around 1116 00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 2: him that ma sut and fight week. My point is 1117 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,960 Speaker 2: just that I have so much confidence. Your point's well taken. 1118 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 2: But and yes I'm not going to be there in 1119 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,359 Speaker 2: crazy mode. But you know it's it ain't gonna matter. 1120 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,680 Speaker 2: You know, he's he's going to be ready to go. 1121 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 2: I can't wait. So in terms of hmm, Jake Paul 1122 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,120 Speaker 2: and Mike Perry, because I just want to put a 1123 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:27,920 Speaker 2: ball on this if I could. Is that okay? I 1124 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,359 Speaker 2: know I'm alienating a certain segment of the fan base. 1125 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,319 Speaker 2: Say whatever you will. I like you better on one 1126 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,440 Speaker 2: point two to five speed. Let's go. So say what 1127 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 2: you will about Jake Paul's relative cleanliness, right, if you 1128 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,759 Speaker 2: want to go down that path. I sometimes marvel at 1129 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 2: just how ready to go he always is. I mean, 1130 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,839 Speaker 2: you can stick a mic in his face Kenny backstage 1131 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,840 Speaker 2: before these big fights, and I don't know what it 1132 00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,360 Speaker 2: is that's allowing him to get into that perfectly proper 1133 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,880 Speaker 2: mental frame of mind before these fights, but he seems 1134 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,319 Speaker 2: to be able to rise to the occasion pretty fucking well. 1135 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 7: Go ahead, yeah, I mean, well, I was gonna say, 1136 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,200 Speaker 7: I imagine a lot of the pressure is on the fighter, 1137 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,399 Speaker 7: right because he's he's this guy, he's the YouTube guy, 1138 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 7: and uh, you know, there's no pressure on him. He's like, 1139 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 7: I'm fighting this dude, this is what he does. There's 1140 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,360 Speaker 7: no pressure on me. I'm gonna hype this up the 1141 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,520 Speaker 7: most that I can, and then I'm gonna do my 1142 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,520 Speaker 7: best to knock him out. If it happens, great. If 1143 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,920 Speaker 7: it doesn't, Oh, I just lost to the guy who's 1144 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,839 Speaker 7: been fighting his whole life. There's no pressure on the dude, 1145 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 7: and I think that's what's what allows him to perform 1146 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,640 Speaker 7: to a certain standpoint. And the fact that he's been 1147 00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,400 Speaker 7: on camera, you know, for so long. He knows how 1148 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 7: to turn it on, and I think there's Yeah, it's 1149 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,000 Speaker 7: different than fighting, of course, but that mental element I 1150 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,680 Speaker 7: think is similar. What's up Ray? Long ago? 1151 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 3: Oh man, with a rough morning so far? 1152 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't like the eleven fifteen am Eastern call time? 1153 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 5: How I couldn't No, I couldn't get the camera. The 1154 00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:57,840 Speaker 5: camera crapped out on the computer. 1155 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:01,919 Speaker 2: Well, just so you know, we'll take you any which 1156 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,840 Speaker 2: way we can get you right, And this sounds and 1157 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 2: looks perfect. You know, we had Domina Cruz live from 1158 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,759 Speaker 2: Mexico City and it was an unmitigated disaster. So we're 1159 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,799 Speaker 2: glad to have the star of the show on. How 1160 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:14,200 Speaker 2: are we doing? 1161 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:15,200 Speaker 3: Ray? Good? Good? 1162 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:16,879 Speaker 5: And I want to thank you guys again for last 1163 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 5: week some of that old those old clips that was 1164 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:20,360 Speaker 5: that was awesome. 1165 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,120 Speaker 3: Man, he went back and did that was really good. 1166 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:23,800 Speaker 3: Affect a lot of memories. 1167 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was nice to sort of celebrate I think 1168 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,440 Speaker 2: the show and our listeners and our viewers and do 1169 00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:34,040 Speaker 2: something special for episode five hundred. And obviously our seam 1170 00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,759 Speaker 2: producer Cody Merrow had some tricks up his sleeve as well, 1171 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,399 Speaker 2: so we appreciate that look back in time. 1172 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:40,360 Speaker 3: Thanks so. 1173 00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,239 Speaker 2: So many different directions in which we could go. Jake, 1174 00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 2: Paul Platinum, Mike Perry, you're shaking your head. 1175 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's a disgrace. I mean, I just 1176 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:55,000 Speaker 5: don't get how people buy this bullshit. The guy has 1177 00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,719 Speaker 5: to cut down to two hundred, he's fighting a one 1178 00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:02,320 Speaker 5: seventy pound like he's never give the guy anybody in 1179 00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,279 Speaker 5: his weight in boxing ranked number forty three. 1180 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:06,359 Speaker 3: I don't think he beats him. 1181 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:11,040 Speaker 5: I just and he's getting better, but the weight difference 1182 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:12,960 Speaker 5: is just I don't know how you do that and 1183 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,319 Speaker 5: like even live with yourself, like you know what I mean, 1184 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,200 Speaker 5: Like I want to beat up a guy forty pounds 1185 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:18,800 Speaker 5: lighter than me. 1186 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:19,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. 1187 00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:24,320 Speaker 5: Not only that and I might obviously toughest shit r. 1188 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,640 Speaker 5: It was never known for his boxing skills. I mean 1189 00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,040 Speaker 5: with Jake's pulled geniuses is how he picks his fight. 1190 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,520 Speaker 5: Now he's gonna have a sixty year old Mike Tyson. 1191 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,760 Speaker 5: I don't know if he could win that fight. But again, 1192 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 5: well you're going to say you beat Mike Tyson. The 1193 00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:42,279 Speaker 5: guy's fifty nines. This is insanity, Like insanity doesn't make 1194 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,480 Speaker 5: any sense. I mean, just I don't know how to 1195 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,280 Speaker 5: even athletic commissions even allowed his crap. 1196 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:49,080 Speaker 3: I really don't. 1197 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,600 Speaker 2: Well we don't talk about this a lot on the 1198 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,280 Speaker 2: Anakin Florian podcast, but when Jake Paul and Mike Tyson 1199 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,719 Speaker 2: was announced, everywhere I went for four weeks, that's all 1200 00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,400 Speaker 2: people wanted to ask me about, you know, and like 1201 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,600 Speaker 2: it or not, kids on the playground or talking about 1202 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:02,759 Speaker 2: Jake fucking Paul. 1203 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:03,359 Speaker 9: Uh. 1204 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,400 Speaker 2: But I bought the pay per view ray because Platinum 1205 00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,440 Speaker 2: Mike Perry is a friend, and also just because of 1206 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,920 Speaker 2: his toughness, right, I bought the pay per view just 1207 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,920 Speaker 2: to see what would happen. But yes, I think we're 1208 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,160 Speaker 2: all in agreement. Like he just looks like a much 1209 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 2: smaller man. Yeah, go ahead. 1210 00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, John, I think it's at this point. 1211 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:27,080 Speaker 3: It's like, I guess it's on us at this point. 1212 00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:28,920 Speaker 5: And I would have bought that fight too, because I 1213 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 5: and I would have bought it for the same reason 1214 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,240 Speaker 5: you said, because I know Mike Perry's tough. Maybe he 1215 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:37,880 Speaker 5: gets in his face, but there's weight categories for a reason, 1216 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:39,120 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. 1217 00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,560 Speaker 2: And that's so that's why you didn't buy the fight 1218 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:42,439 Speaker 2: because of the weight. 1219 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:44,680 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no, I didn't buy the 1220 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 3: fight because I was Actually it was because. 1221 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:51,400 Speaker 2: You're underpaid on the Annakin Floran pocket. No, definitely, it 1222 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:52,760 Speaker 2: was sixty four ninety nine. 1223 00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:54,800 Speaker 3: So no, I would have that wouldn't have been I 1224 00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:56,240 Speaker 3: would have. I would have bought the fight. I was 1225 00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:56,680 Speaker 3: at Uh. 1226 00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,240 Speaker 5: I was at Sarah's house. He his fiftieth birthday and 1227 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 5: his daughter's birthday party. So we had a great time. 1228 00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 5: And I think if I think if I would have 1229 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 5: even suggested that we all would have watched it because 1230 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,240 Speaker 5: we were trying to watch the fights in between the 1231 00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:12,440 Speaker 5: party and all that stuff. 1232 00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,400 Speaker 3: But uh, we talked about it for sure, and I 1233 00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:19,640 Speaker 3: want to even see your Royal Hall fight right well, 1234 00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,520 Speaker 3: because we know these guys. So, like you say, that's 1235 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:23,160 Speaker 3: the attraction. 1236 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:27,320 Speaker 5: They get that crossover crowd, which I think is is 1237 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,080 Speaker 5: genius too, you know what I mean, the guy one 1238 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 5: hundred percent. Listen, I'm giving the guy and a plus 1239 00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,760 Speaker 5: on marketing and what he's doing a plus, but I'm 1240 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,320 Speaker 5: giving him a D minus on the way he picks 1241 00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,920 Speaker 5: those fights and how people react to it. 1242 00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,440 Speaker 3: I don't know, as you ever. It's just it's crazy. 1243 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:46,120 Speaker 1: I think. 1244 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,000 Speaker 5: I just think it's insane. But I am happy people 1245 00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,680 Speaker 5: are making money. So let's go back, let's backtrack a 1246 00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,720 Speaker 5: little bit. If they can make a payday, I'm all 1247 00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,960 Speaker 5: for it. But this is crazy to me. 1248 00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, that's how he's making it happen, right. It's 1249 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,000 Speaker 7: like you get a fighter that you know you have 1250 00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,960 Speaker 7: a very good chance against and you make a very 1251 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:08,760 Speaker 7: attractive payday for that fighter and they have to say yes. 1252 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,680 Speaker 7: And that's what it comes down to. And for the 1253 00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,840 Speaker 7: people that are watching these fights, generally speaking, they're not 1254 00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:22,080 Speaker 7: the hardcore MMA combat sports fan. They're fans of Jake 1255 00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,880 Speaker 7: Paul or they hate Jake Paul. And then you get 1256 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,960 Speaker 7: some of them that are Mike Perry fans, and you 1257 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,040 Speaker 7: get guys that aren't so nuanced about the sport, and 1258 00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:35,520 Speaker 7: what they see is Jake Paul beating so and so fighter. Wow, 1259 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,439 Speaker 7: Jake Paul must be the man. They're not thinking about 1260 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 7: weight classes, they're not thinking about styles, they're not thinking 1261 00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,880 Speaker 7: about technique, they're not thinking about past combat sports history 1262 00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,760 Speaker 7: in regards to these guys. They're seeing the result and 1263 00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,840 Speaker 7: they say, give me more. However they want to see 1264 00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,400 Speaker 7: it when they want to see Jake Paul loser win. 1265 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,160 Speaker 5: I I mean, if that's correct, that's correct. But I 1266 00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,200 Speaker 5: mean the people I talk that, we talk about it 1267 00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,840 Speaker 5: all the time. But you're right, the more people in 1268 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,800 Speaker 5: to know. But you're right, if he's getting his youtubeers 1269 01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,120 Speaker 5: or whatever, you know, I'm definitely had a touch your 1270 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,200 Speaker 5: all that crap. But if he's getting those people and 1271 01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,200 Speaker 5: they're not even thinking about that, yeah, right. The main 1272 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,439 Speaker 5: because you don't want paper, you know, you beat Mike 1273 01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:18,160 Speaker 5: Perry or on paper, you bet? You know Anderson Sylvia, 1274 01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 5: you know he gets the name value right. It is insane. 1275 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,200 Speaker 2: But some of it's like a basketball player beating a 1276 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,400 Speaker 2: baseball player too. I mean, Mike Perry is not a 1277 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:30,440 Speaker 2: professional boxer, right right, right, and would never be confused 1278 01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:37,160 Speaker 2: as such, Bare Knuckle is a tremendous setting for Perry's skills, style, 1279 01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:41,320 Speaker 2: and genetic gifts, and he has realized tremendous success. I 1280 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,240 Speaker 2: love that this was a seven figure payday for him. Yes, 1281 01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,800 Speaker 2: and I love that we got to see the Lucas 1282 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,440 Speaker 2: Body six round knockout. That was maybe the knockout of 1283 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:50,920 Speaker 2: the year. I'm not sure if you guys saw it, 1284 01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,880 Speaker 2: but yes, yeah, gosh was the boxing knockout of Oh 1285 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:57,160 Speaker 2: my god, Like how to human beings? How impressive? I mean, 1286 01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,280 Speaker 2: where is doctor Gus Florian when you need him? 1287 01:00:59,320 --> 01:00:59,360 Speaker 7: Like? 1288 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:00,000 Speaker 2: How impressed? 1289 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:00,280 Speaker 7: I said? 1290 01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,880 Speaker 2: An organism is the human brain that you can survive 1291 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:06,760 Speaker 2: that combination and like go home the next day, dude. 1292 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:10,520 Speaker 7: The precision and power of all of those shots, Like 1293 01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,680 Speaker 7: as he's going down, he's still cracking him with some 1294 01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:17,280 Speaker 7: nasty shots. Every single one of those shots were knockouts, 1295 01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:19,400 Speaker 7: and he knocked him out on the first one and 1296 01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:24,240 Speaker 7: at least two more landed cleanly like a brutality dude. 1297 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Ray, So I have a lot of 1298 01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:28,840 Speaker 2: things I want to get into with you, and it's 1299 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,400 Speaker 2: great to have you with us as always here on 1300 01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,880 Speaker 2: the Anak and Florian Podcast. We are live today presented 1301 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,360 Speaker 2: by Draft Kings. Stay tuned because you will hear more 1302 01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,400 Speaker 2: about DraftKings and all has to offer throughout the show. 1303 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,280 Speaker 2: Draft Kings. The Crown is yours. So later this week 1304 01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:45,720 Speaker 2: our full preview of UFC three to H four. Edwards v. 1305 01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:49,160 Speaker 2: Muhammad too. I'm curious, Raymond, how you feel about this 1306 01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:53,760 Speaker 2: main event and Blow Muhammad's relative chances against Leon compared 1307 01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:57,320 Speaker 2: to you know, guys like Covington and Neusman who have 1308 01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:58,600 Speaker 2: been opponents prior. 1309 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:00,280 Speaker 9: Think. 1310 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,760 Speaker 5: I like Blios chance, I think it doesn't. Blow is 1311 01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,680 Speaker 5: definitely a gamer. I mean he's been waiting for this. 1312 01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,560 Speaker 5: I think he's got motivation on his side. I think 1313 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,600 Speaker 5: he's probably got a chip on his shoulder on his side. 1314 01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,920 Speaker 5: He's a dedicated guy. I think he's been right training 1315 01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,720 Speaker 5: with Kebeebe every so often or whatever. But he he 1316 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,560 Speaker 5: looks like he's in the right spot at the right time. 1317 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,360 Speaker 5: And I think, you know, there wasn't much to tell 1318 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,480 Speaker 5: from the list because that I poked happened pretty early. Yeah, 1319 01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,440 Speaker 5: but I think Blial's got to make it a dirty fight, 1320 01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:35,919 Speaker 5: which I think he could do. And uh, I see 1321 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,840 Speaker 5: the gas tank being a big factor in this fight. 1322 01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,200 Speaker 7: Oh we have another big fight ray, another one that 1323 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:46,560 Speaker 7: that ended early first time around when Aspinall hurt his 1324 01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:51,120 Speaker 7: knee against Curtis Blades. I'm pumped for this one. How 1325 01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:52,480 Speaker 7: do you see this one going down? Dude? 1326 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,880 Speaker 5: Ah man, I think Aspinall's I gotta go with Aspinall 1327 01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,040 Speaker 5: on this. I think he's got, you know, more ways 1328 01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:02,880 Speaker 5: to win, you know, Curtis. I mean, yeah, Blades has 1329 01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,680 Speaker 5: to do what he always does is go take down 1330 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:07,720 Speaker 5: if to take down and make it that type of fight, 1331 01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:08,880 Speaker 5: and I guess he could do it. 1332 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:10,280 Speaker 3: But Aspinall is a big dude. 1333 01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,480 Speaker 5: He's probably going to be hard to hold down if 1334 01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:15,120 Speaker 5: you could even you know, get there, and you know, 1335 01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,280 Speaker 5: if he's on top of I think that's a problem. 1336 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:21,120 Speaker 3: So Aspinal looks like he's he's the man right now. 1337 01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,280 Speaker 5: You know, Blades has been around for a while and 1338 01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:25,280 Speaker 5: I'm sure that's going to play into it too, But 1339 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:27,480 Speaker 5: I'm going with Aspinall on that. 1340 01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,160 Speaker 2: All right, and one more fight on pay per view. 1341 01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,560 Speaker 2: I just want to ask you about Patty Pimblet taking 1342 01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:36,960 Speaker 2: on King Green. So I know Jim Miller is at 1343 01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,280 Speaker 2: whatever stage of his career he is at, and perhaps 1344 01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,760 Speaker 2: I'm overstating what I saw at UFC three hundred out 1345 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:44,640 Speaker 2: of King Green. But he looked like the fucking fastest 1346 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:48,320 Speaker 2: guy on the roster, almost Matrix esque, avoiding shots and 1347 01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:51,120 Speaker 2: landing shots of his own. He's this slight favorite here 1348 01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,960 Speaker 2: against Patty Pimblet Ray Pimblet five and zero the UFC, 1349 01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,880 Speaker 2: but twenty one and three is a pro So maybe 1350 01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,960 Speaker 2: more experience than people think. Feel like a lot of 1351 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,320 Speaker 2: people see betting opportunity on both sides of this fight. 1352 01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,400 Speaker 2: You like Patty Pimblet or King Green this weekend? 1353 01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,240 Speaker 5: I definitely like Bobby king Green in this. I don't 1354 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:11,280 Speaker 5: I don't see you know, uh, you know, Pimblet's got 1355 01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:12,840 Speaker 5: to get that fight to the floor. I mean his 1356 01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,400 Speaker 5: chin is way up in the air. I think Bobby 1357 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,680 Speaker 5: will expose that, but uh, you know, grappling. I think 1358 01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:22,480 Speaker 5: you know, you you know, Bobby's arrested. I'm going with 1359 01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,000 Speaker 5: Bobby Green on this. I don't see it going any 1360 01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:28,000 Speaker 5: other way. I think Jared Gordon beat him, and I 1361 01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,280 Speaker 5: think Bobby Green's definitely gonna beat him. 1362 01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, you heard that he dropped the Bobby officially, 1363 01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:34,920 Speaker 2: so he's now King Green or no? 1364 01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:37,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he I think you told me on 1365 01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,160 Speaker 3: one of the podcasts. Yeah, we have to refer to 1366 01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:40,040 Speaker 3: him as King Green. 1367 01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,120 Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, I got it out of my system. I 1368 01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,160 Speaker 2: did a lot of media last week, and uh I 1369 01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,960 Speaker 2: dropped four Bobby's. Yeah. Today, I've been pretty clean calling 1370 01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,200 Speaker 2: him King Green. I'm hoping that it'll get me on 1371 01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:51,960 Speaker 2: a good track for Saturday Night. 1372 01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:52,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1373 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:53,720 Speaker 2: But Ray, you know what his focus is gonna be. 1374 01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,040 Speaker 2: It's gonna be giving ship to anyone who says fucking 1375 01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,520 Speaker 2: Bobby always. Right, So antenna is up, you say, Bobby 1376 01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:03,080 Speaker 2: the fucking King Green police all fucking week. That's what's 1377 01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:03,320 Speaker 2: gonna be. 1378 01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:04,360 Speaker 3: Listen. 1379 01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,520 Speaker 5: He's gotta give us a little time to adjust now, 1380 01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:10,440 Speaker 5: exactly instantly, exactly a couple of months or something. 1381 01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,240 Speaker 7: But I guess right now is a good time for 1382 01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,160 Speaker 7: me to announce that my name has been changed from 1383 01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:18,760 Speaker 7: Kenny to Ninja Son at all times, right. 1384 01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:23,840 Speaker 3: Ye, I'm going with my original birth name, pig E. Jackson. 1385 01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:25,200 Speaker 1: There you go. 1386 01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:29,640 Speaker 2: So I'm reading from our private chat producer Cody Merrow 1387 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,440 Speaker 2: call Ray out on him not being Bobby King Green. 1388 01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:34,240 Speaker 2: Who's Bobby? 1389 01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:34,560 Speaker 3: Right? 1390 01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:37,560 Speaker 2: So for the record, so Cody's in your police force too, 1391 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:37,920 Speaker 2: All right? 1392 01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:38,240 Speaker 3: Cool? 1393 01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:42,280 Speaker 2: By Ray. I have a few other items I would 1394 01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:46,680 Speaker 2: like to get to with you if I could. Sean O'Malley, 1395 01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,760 Speaker 2: Morob Dwallash Willie, we don't have a date, but the 1396 01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:52,960 Speaker 2: expectation is that this fight is going to happen at 1397 01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,720 Speaker 2: some point in the next twelve to sixteen weeks, and 1398 01:05:56,120 --> 01:06:00,640 Speaker 2: at least right now there aren't widely available betting lines, 1399 01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:02,439 Speaker 2: but your guy, my Rob Dallace Willy is a slight 1400 01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,040 Speaker 2: betting favorite. Dominic Cruz came on earlier. He does like 1401 01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,800 Speaker 2: the matchup for Sean O'Malley, He didn't necessarily give a 1402 01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:12,440 Speaker 2: hard prediction. Will you bring in athletes that do not 1403 01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,800 Speaker 2: exist depending on where Morab is if he's in New 1404 01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,960 Speaker 2: York for a time or Vegas, right to try to 1405 01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:23,640 Speaker 2: emulate this fast pinpoint striker Sean O'Malley. 1406 01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:25,880 Speaker 5: I mean, look, if it was me, I would one 1407 01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:29,000 Speaker 5: hundred percent bring in somebody. But I think he's going 1408 01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:31,200 Speaker 5: to be out in Vegas. I'll be out there in 1409 01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:33,440 Speaker 5: two weeks. I told him i'd talk to him, so 1410 01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:37,000 Speaker 5: I mean i'd see him. But I'm sure John woodhell, definitely, 1411 01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,400 Speaker 5: they're going to have to bring in somebody, big fight, 1412 01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:42,920 Speaker 5: like you know, these are the fights. You reach out, 1413 01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,880 Speaker 5: you grab whoever you think is the closest type of 1414 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:47,920 Speaker 5: guy to Amalley, And it could be just a straight 1415 01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:48,520 Speaker 5: up boxer. 1416 01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:50,480 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you know, you know what I mean. 1417 01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,040 Speaker 3: So he needs a tall, lanky guy with the range. 1418 01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:56,680 Speaker 2: I mean, Julian he ROAs is a body I know 1419 01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:58,480 Speaker 2: that's on that team and that is out there, but 1420 01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:00,440 Speaker 2: he's not nearly as fast as shot On. I just 1421 01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,240 Speaker 2: feel like, isn't this the type of guy that commands 1422 01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:05,560 Speaker 2: like a specialized training camp or do I not know 1423 01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:06,400 Speaker 2: what I'm talking about? 1424 01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:07,600 Speaker 3: No, No, I agree with you. One. 1425 01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,480 Speaker 5: You got to get a guy with great because look, 1426 01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:12,600 Speaker 5: his footwork is great. He's a sharpshooter. 1427 01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,640 Speaker 3: You know. My my gut right now is that Morob 1428 01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:18,400 Speaker 3: probably will eat that get what he wants. 1429 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,600 Speaker 5: And if that, you know, as time goes on, just 1430 01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:23,520 Speaker 5: take away to power just by grinding him out. Uh 1431 01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,680 Speaker 5: you know, he's not going to stop unless you kill him. 1432 01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:28,800 Speaker 5: I mean that's a that's a fact. So he's got 1433 01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:32,760 Speaker 5: to put him out. But uh, I'm saying I think 1434 01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,720 Speaker 5: he's I think he's trickier than people think, you know, 1435 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:38,840 Speaker 5: because he's very unorthodox on his feet and he does 1436 01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,200 Speaker 5: have power to get respect. I wouldn't think that's the 1437 01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:44,680 Speaker 5: right way to go, but uh, he's he's definitely no slouch. 1438 01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,160 Speaker 5: If he gets his shot to crack you, he can't 1439 01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:51,360 Speaker 5: hurt you. Yeah, So uh mixing that with just you know, 1440 01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,640 Speaker 5: it's all going to be timing on this, right. You know, 1441 01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,240 Speaker 5: you got to get past those strikes and you got 1442 01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:57,880 Speaker 5: to be able to cut off the octagon. 1443 01:07:58,080 --> 01:07:59,360 Speaker 7: So I do. 1444 01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,960 Speaker 3: Like mourn I listen, I love Morob in this fight. 1445 01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:07,960 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see it all right before I 1446 01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,080 Speaker 2: let you go. And I want to get Kenny's thoughts 1447 01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:14,240 Speaker 2: on this as well. So in terms of the people 1448 01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:19,000 Speaker 2: you surround yourself with during these fight weeks, especially the 1449 01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,479 Speaker 2: big fight weeks can be critical, right, whether it's an 1450 01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,479 Speaker 2: AIRB and B and you you all are together, or 1451 01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,519 Speaker 2: maybe your badil dar you staying at the host hotel 1452 01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:30,960 Speaker 2: with your two infant children in your standard hotel room, right, 1453 01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:34,519 Speaker 2: there's a lot of different ways that people go about it, right. 1454 01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,240 Speaker 2: I know there were times where when I was around 1455 01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:40,320 Speaker 2: Kenny in Boston, I was very nervous to like say 1456 01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,800 Speaker 2: the wrong thing, you know, So I'm just curious Ray 1457 01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:45,800 Speaker 2: and then Kenny if I could get your thoughts on 1458 01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,880 Speaker 2: the back end, Like, have there been situations Ray where 1459 01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:50,360 Speaker 2: you're like, dude, we got to get this guy away 1460 01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:52,640 Speaker 2: from my fucking athlete right now, Like his energy is 1461 01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:53,240 Speaker 2: just not good. 1462 01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,479 Speaker 5: You know, I listen, I have to think about it, 1463 01:08:56,600 --> 01:09:01,120 Speaker 5: but I'm sure that one hundred happened. My recall isn't good. 1464 01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:04,400 Speaker 5: But there are those guys get cut out pretty quick. 1465 01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:07,400 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, especially when like back in the day, 1466 01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:09,120 Speaker 5: if it was me and Sarah, I mean, you're just 1467 01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,160 Speaker 5: you're not lasting long that for sure. 1468 01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:12,439 Speaker 3: Now it's a little different. 1469 01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,840 Speaker 5: Guys are kind of you know, not going their own way, 1470 01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:17,720 Speaker 5: but you know, they have their training pontners and I 1471 01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,599 Speaker 5: think they're pretty squared away at the at this point, 1472 01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,519 Speaker 5: you know, but those guys never really last long. The 1473 01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:27,040 Speaker 5: guys that jump in there, and there's definitely people that 1474 01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,040 Speaker 5: have been around that shouldn't be around, but they one 1475 01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:33,320 Speaker 5: hundred percent keep their mouths shut. There's no question about it, 1476 01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:37,040 Speaker 5: you know, because everybody's got that lackey that wants to 1477 01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:38,840 Speaker 5: be in the fucking hot tub with you. 1478 01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:40,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1479 01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:42,640 Speaker 3: Oh no, it's it's out there. If you give me 1480 01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,320 Speaker 3: time to think, I mean, I probably wouldn't do it anyway. 1481 01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,760 Speaker 3: I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings at this point. 1482 01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:51,080 Speaker 5: But yet there's there's a hundred you know, there's guys 1483 01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,040 Speaker 5: with money that want to get in there and just 1484 01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:54,000 Speaker 5: yeah their face. 1485 01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:55,360 Speaker 3: So it's pretty, it's pretty. 1486 01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,080 Speaker 5: It could be pretty brutal, you know, but you know 1487 01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:00,080 Speaker 5: we I think we always did a good job, but 1488 01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:01,559 Speaker 5: getting rid of those guys quickly. 1489 01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:03,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Ken Flow, what do you got? 1490 01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I could say, you know, I've made certain 1491 01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:09,120 Speaker 7: mistakes where I had just way too many people around 1492 01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:13,400 Speaker 7: and it just becomes draining and you're preparing for a fight. 1493 01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,760 Speaker 7: You kind of want to just chill. I I kind 1494 01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:17,599 Speaker 7: of learned, Alright, I'm gonna keep my you know circle, 1495 01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:19,880 Speaker 7: pretty small guys that are in the camp, and that's it. 1496 01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:20,640 Speaker 3: Uh. 1497 01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,640 Speaker 7: But you know, sometimes you organize these oh let's hey, 1498 01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:25,560 Speaker 7: we want to set up a huge dinner for you 1499 01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,120 Speaker 7: and this and that, and forty people show up and 1500 01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,000 Speaker 7: it's just like, you know, your head's just on a 1501 01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:32,040 Speaker 7: swivel and things are going crazy and everyone's trying to 1502 01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:33,880 Speaker 7: talk to you, and you have to fight. You have 1503 01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:37,040 Speaker 7: to compete the next day. So you know, I certainly 1504 01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:40,120 Speaker 7: have made that mistake, and over time you realize, hey, 1505 01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:42,360 Speaker 7: I want to keep this this circle pretty small just 1506 01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:45,080 Speaker 7: because it could be a little draining. And there's enough 1507 01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:47,720 Speaker 7: that happens based on you know, the fight week, the 1508 01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:51,640 Speaker 7: camp uh, the weight cut, you know, the media obligations 1509 01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,880 Speaker 7: where you kind of want to just slow things, yeah 1510 01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:55,439 Speaker 7: down a little bit. 1511 01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:57,040 Speaker 3: Oh, I think you're right, Canny. And I'll tell you. 1512 01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:00,439 Speaker 3: The thing with the uh, you're bringing up an entry point. 1513 01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,639 Speaker 5: Depending on the size of the guy's family and everything, 1514 01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,360 Speaker 5: those dinners could be oh yeah, and I'll tell you 1515 01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:10,120 Speaker 5: and I I'm not really in favor of him. It's 1516 01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:13,240 Speaker 5: become kind of a tradition. I mean lately it's been 1517 01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:16,000 Speaker 5: getting you know, smaller and smaller, which I think is good. 1518 01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,200 Speaker 5: But I guess it's an individual thing. If some people 1519 01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,520 Speaker 5: want to be surrounded by their friends from the neighborhood, 1520 01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:25,240 Speaker 5: the old neighborhood and whatever, but the dinner thing, you know, 1521 01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:28,720 Speaker 5: then who gets offended? You know, we invited this point, 1522 01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,400 Speaker 5: this thing didn't go you know, I've even seen it 1523 01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:34,599 Speaker 5: with like in laws and parents and that one. Oh yeah, 1524 01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:36,960 Speaker 5: really tricky. I've been I've been up and down on 1525 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:40,679 Speaker 5: that one with you know, We've had big dinners, small dinners. 1526 01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:45,000 Speaker 5: But I'll tell you for Chris is last fight, it 1527 01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:48,040 Speaker 5: was very small, and I think somebody mentioned to me 1528 01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,639 Speaker 5: that a couple of people got offended. But I think 1529 01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:52,560 Speaker 5: that's the way he wanted. I think that was the 1530 01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:54,839 Speaker 5: way to go. You know, he has his immediate family, 1531 01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:59,519 Speaker 5: you know, me and my wife and maybe and you know, 1532 01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:02,439 Speaker 5: maybe his manager. But it was it was small, and 1533 01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:04,599 Speaker 5: I do I like, just focus on the guy. 1534 01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:07,360 Speaker 2: Well, you know, the reason he's bringing it up is 1535 01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:10,000 Speaker 2: because he thinks I'm bringing like a full clown show 1536 01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:12,599 Speaker 2: to wherever Balal is in Mancha. He thinks I'm gonna 1537 01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:14,880 Speaker 2: like land on the ground text Bolla'll be like, where 1538 01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:16,400 Speaker 2: are you at man and like show up with like 1539 01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:19,280 Speaker 2: a fucking ice cream truck or something. He's so worried 1540 01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:29,960 Speaker 2: about me. Yes, literally, where you at Balao? Where's dinner tonight? 1541 01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:33,320 Speaker 2: Like I go there and I'm with John, like I'm 1542 01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:34,719 Speaker 2: with the broadcast. Don't worry. 1543 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:37,519 Speaker 3: So at this point, let's just tell you, Jason, stay 1544 01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:38,360 Speaker 3: away from that guy. 1545 01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:44,639 Speaker 2: Jay brings overwhelmingly good energy to Balaal. I'm just having fun. 1546 01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:46,759 Speaker 2: And Ray you just said this is a very interesting 1547 01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:50,200 Speaker 2: point and conversation for you. Right, I'm trying to make 1548 01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:53,519 Speaker 2: the Ray Longo minute interesting for you because sometimes I 1549 01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,519 Speaker 2: will open endedly bring up a topic and you will say, 1550 01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,920 Speaker 2: what's the question? Or I'll ask you something about your 1551 01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,840 Speaker 2: haircut or your wife or your daughter's and you'll direct 1552 01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,200 Speaker 2: it right to mixed martial arts. So I know a 1553 01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:07,800 Speaker 2: lot of people think I'm insufferable, but like I prepared 1554 01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:10,520 Speaker 2: for the Ray long Go Minute to have this conversation 1555 01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:13,160 Speaker 2: and you found it interesting. So I rest my case. 1556 01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:17,000 Speaker 3: Well, you hate when I say what's the question? 1557 01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:18,280 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1558 01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:19,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, he hates it. 1559 01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:24,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well listen, this was a direct question. It 1560 01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:24,760 Speaker 3: was good. 1561 01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:26,320 Speaker 2: I'm having a great time. 1562 01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:28,400 Speaker 7: Around man. 1563 01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:32,120 Speaker 3: It's very ambiguous. Sometimes it's ambiguous. I need direction. What 1564 01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:32,880 Speaker 3: am I going to tell you? 1565 01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,800 Speaker 2: When I got the vibe from Ken Flow during his 1566 01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:41,280 Speaker 2: fight weeks that, like, you know, when I was around that, 1567 01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:44,640 Speaker 2: you know, he isn't looking for like a bunch of 1568 01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:47,960 Speaker 2: people to be hanging on, right, that's all you know. 1569 01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:49,559 Speaker 2: But you're not one of those people. You're an inner 1570 01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:53,479 Speaker 2: circle guy, right, No, p'sition right, Like I think back 1571 01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:55,960 Speaker 2: to May when Balow fought Gilbert Burns, right, and he 1572 01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:59,200 Speaker 2: was super calm, relaxed walking around. I had no idea 1573 01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:01,880 Speaker 2: he had a foot injury going in, you know, until 1574 01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,439 Speaker 2: we saw some pictures. You just never know what someone 1575 01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,720 Speaker 2: has going on. I haven't been part of blows fight. 1576 01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:10,439 Speaker 2: We look, we're going overseas. He's fighting for a belt. 1577 01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:13,920 Speaker 2: It's it's a you know, I'm not thinking about myself. 1578 01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:16,360 Speaker 2: I can't wait. I just can't wait. I can't wait. 1579 01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:19,040 Speaker 5: I mean, John, I gotta tell you after this, I'm 1580 01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:20,479 Speaker 5: really leaning towards Edwards. 1581 01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:24,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, the crab, me too, me too. 1582 01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:31,599 Speaker 2: We'll see if you can get it done. This weekend, 1583 01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:35,280 Speaker 2: ray Longo, your Instagram, at least one of them, just 1584 01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:37,519 Speaker 2: continues to be fucking hack City. 1585 01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:37,800 Speaker 4: Man. 1586 01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:39,040 Speaker 2: I feel so bad, you know. 1587 01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:43,839 Speaker 3: So I hope this guy's proud of himself. 1588 01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,320 Speaker 2: Well, you know, he's celebrating our five hundred episode and 1589 01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:50,720 Speaker 2: it's like, dude, you're not Ray Longo. Wow, but he's 1590 01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:55,160 Speaker 2: not Ray long go Mma. So uh, the real article 1591 01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:58,240 Speaker 2: Ray Longo is on x dot com. I think that's 1592 01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:00,800 Speaker 2: really where you can have the best social media back 1593 01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:02,400 Speaker 2: and forth and interaction with Raymond. 1594 01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:02,840 Speaker 4: Is that right? 1595 01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:03,559 Speaker 3: I try? 1596 01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:06,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right. Next travel for you, hopefully is 1597 01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:09,400 Speaker 2: to the barber. But what you're going to Vegas in 1598 01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:11,960 Speaker 2: like a week? Right, I'm going I mean your ears 1599 01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,559 Speaker 2: are just they're poor fucking ears. 1600 01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,160 Speaker 3: Man. No, this is crazy, Johnny, how do you hear? 1601 01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:19,120 Speaker 5: You know I could cover it up when I put 1602 01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,679 Speaker 5: the headphones on, but this I'm supposed to be getting 1603 01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:22,320 Speaker 5: the cut today. 1604 01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:24,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's had a couple of cancelations, but I need 1605 01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:25,320 Speaker 3: my hit. 1606 01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:27,719 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I like the wings. 1607 01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:30,760 Speaker 3: No, this is bad, this is this is bid. 1608 01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:32,599 Speaker 2: So you're going to Vegas in like a week? 1609 01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:33,400 Speaker 7: Is that accurate? 1610 01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:33,639 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1611 01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,519 Speaker 3: I think a week and a half for what I got. 1612 01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:39,679 Speaker 3: Pompos fighting Charlo Lampos. 1613 01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:45,280 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, all right, man, hope so too anything else 1614 01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:45,960 Speaker 2: before we let you go. 1615 01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:49,560 Speaker 3: That was a great time at Sarah's fiftieth. It was 1616 01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:50,640 Speaker 3: great catching up with him. 1617 01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:53,160 Speaker 5: We had a great crew, me raging Al lou Neglie, 1618 01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:55,360 Speaker 5: he had his own family there. We had a good 1619 01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:57,600 Speaker 5: time watching the fights and uh, it was just a 1620 01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:00,519 Speaker 5: it's good to see that that guy doing well. 1621 01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:01,559 Speaker 3: He's one of the good guys. 1622 01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:04,519 Speaker 5: And uh, but he's got such a great family and 1623 01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:07,000 Speaker 5: surrounded by good people and happy for him. 1624 01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:07,799 Speaker 3: But we had a blist. 1625 01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:10,040 Speaker 2: Do you tell Maddie you just talked to George Saint 1626 01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:11,880 Speaker 2: Pierre a few days back, told me he was nice 1627 01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:12,400 Speaker 2: all the time. 1628 01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:15,760 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, this was a peaceful There was 1629 01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:19,479 Speaker 3: no swords drawn. This was a very peaceful birthday party. 1630 01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,360 Speaker 2: Well, we had Chris Widman booked on the five hundred 1631 01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:25,160 Speaker 2: episode to surprise you at the back end of the 1632 01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,760 Speaker 2: Ray Longo minute. But I kind of butchered the clock 1633 01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:29,320 Speaker 2: and I got you out and then he came on. 1634 01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:32,680 Speaker 5: Oh I went back and watched it. Yeah, you got 1635 01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:34,960 Speaker 5: him with that one hundred and seventy five thousand. Man, 1636 01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:35,759 Speaker 5: he wasn't happy. 1637 01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:39,479 Speaker 2: Yeah right, oh yeah, I love you brought nice number. 1638 01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:42,800 Speaker 2: Nice number. That was a terrible number obviously, you. 1639 01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:45,519 Speaker 3: Know, did you see his face joke? 1640 01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, terrible number, terrible number. 1641 01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:52,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. He chews in on that stuff real quick, like 1642 01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:54,840 Speaker 3: I think he was sleeping. You said, one hundred and 1643 01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,920 Speaker 3: seventy five thousand, jump through the screen and choke you. 1644 01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:02,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that was uh confortable. He alday saw 1645 01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,160 Speaker 2: the episode where you were putting your fingers out talking 1646 01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:06,479 Speaker 2: about them cheating, and. 1647 01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:08,880 Speaker 7: It gave me a number of sixty five hundred long ago. 1648 01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:10,920 Speaker 7: So got a big deal. 1649 01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:14,439 Speaker 3: Well that the thing you gave him one seventy five venues. 1650 01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:16,759 Speaker 3: He said, well, Kenny's number is three fifty. 1651 01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:23,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, Ken Flow's numbers three hundred thousand the show. It 1652 01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:26,240 Speaker 2: sounds like Wideman's number for a celebrity boxing event. It's 1653 01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:29,400 Speaker 2: like seven hundred and fifty thousand to show. And I 1654 01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:31,560 Speaker 2: wish you guys all the best in go chasing it 1655 01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:33,080 Speaker 2: and you'll probably get it. You know, I had a 1656 01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:36,120 Speaker 2: bad number. I am on a microphone a lot, and 1657 01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:38,640 Speaker 2: there's a lot of chance for forgettable utterances. That was 1658 01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:41,160 Speaker 2: one of them. I refer to him as broken earlier 1659 01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:43,240 Speaker 2: in the interview, and I was just trying to sort 1660 01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:46,080 Speaker 2: of he liked to talk about, like, yeah, his leg. 1661 01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:48,519 Speaker 2: But obviously some of the listeners thought I was taking 1662 01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:49,920 Speaker 2: a shot at him there, which obviously was. 1663 01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:50,439 Speaker 4: Not the case. 1664 01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:53,160 Speaker 3: So what did Mike Perry get for that fight? Do 1665 01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:53,479 Speaker 3: we know? 1666 01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:55,599 Speaker 7: I think a millik great question. 1667 01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,960 Speaker 2: I would imagine he got at least one million. 1668 01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:01,880 Speaker 3: Dollars man, I'll tell you see, that's what I'm saying. 1669 01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:04,160 Speaker 3: You can't argue with the paydays though, yeah. 1670 01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:07,080 Speaker 2: Man, And a few years ago you're seeing Mike Perry 1671 01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:11,479 Speaker 2: like shattering glass on Instagram live and shout out to 1672 01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:14,400 Speaker 2: his wife because she was in his corner back in 1673 01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:17,479 Speaker 2: the day when he was sort of at rock bottom. Dude, 1674 01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:19,880 Speaker 2: I get a lot of pride watching them to walk 1675 01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:21,760 Speaker 2: out and where he's sort of taking a lot of 1676 01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:25,719 Speaker 2: these fighters don't necessarily achieve. He was achieving financial independence 1677 01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:31,080 Speaker 2: before this fight to some extent, I think, go ahead, right, Sorry, he's. 1678 01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,679 Speaker 5: An absolute success story because I don't think anybody saw 1679 01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:36,920 Speaker 5: that coming where he was gonna you know, I guess 1680 01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,160 Speaker 5: there was no band knuckle at one point. But yeah, 1681 01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:43,320 Speaker 5: he's really done fantastic for himself given on where he was, 1682 01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:47,799 Speaker 5: you know, in the UFC. He's a one success story. 1683 01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:52,000 Speaker 2: I talk a lot about fighters realizing financial freedom. We 1684 01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:55,200 Speaker 2: talked about Steve Garcia earlier, right with four straight wins, 1685 01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:57,639 Speaker 2: now a guy who maybe was fighting for his job 1686 01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:01,840 Speaker 2: five fights ago. Looks like there are ranging reports out there, 1687 01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:05,639 Speaker 2: but that Mike Perry reportedly pocketed six hundred thousand dollars 1688 01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:08,840 Speaker 2: for a fight with Iciago Alvez for that bare knuckle event, 1689 01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:11,800 Speaker 2: and then looks like sports keda dot com reporting that 1690 01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:15,080 Speaker 2: Perry could make approximately two million dollars for the Jake 1691 01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:18,479 Speaker 2: Paul fight, and even King Green right just when you 1692 01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:21,200 Speaker 2: think about where Bobby was a few years ago. There 1693 01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:24,400 Speaker 2: I did it, but where king was a few years ago? 1694 01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,559 Speaker 2: You know, when I was actually going to name my son, 1695 01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,920 Speaker 2: Kingston was on the short list. I wish we had 1696 01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:34,320 Speaker 2: maybe gone with Cain, although I think he's too soft 1697 01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:35,080 Speaker 2: to be a cane. 1698 01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:38,639 Speaker 3: But don't you want to mind that kid? 1699 01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:39,320 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1700 01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:41,519 Speaker 2: Exactly, Hey, Ray, how many hall of fames are you in? 1701 01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:43,599 Speaker 5: Uh? 1702 01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:44,880 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1703 01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:47,320 Speaker 2: I'm going to say you don't know, so at least one. 1704 01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:52,280 Speaker 3: I'm going to say it is one? Yeah, one? 1705 01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:53,840 Speaker 2: What hall of fame is that? 1706 01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:57,280 Speaker 3: I think Jersey believe in that. Although I'm not a 1707 01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:59,120 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame guy, so I never attended. 1708 01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:02,800 Speaker 5: Someday every he hates me for it, but uh yeah, 1709 01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,679 Speaker 5: I'm not a I'm just not one of those guys. 1710 01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:06,640 Speaker 3: I don't know what it is. 1711 01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:08,920 Speaker 2: Can somebody on social media please reach out to me 1712 01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:10,439 Speaker 2: and let me know what hall of fame? Ray Longo 1713 01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:12,000 Speaker 2: is and Ken Flow? You in any hall of fame? 1714 01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,200 Speaker 3: Tell you it's the New Jersey Hall of Fame. 1715 01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:18,800 Speaker 7: It's something like yeah, like the New England or Massachusetts 1716 01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:22,400 Speaker 7: MMA Hall of Fame, something like that. Again, same thing. 1717 01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:23,360 Speaker 7: I didn't show up, so. 1718 01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:25,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, John, I could have been in ten. You know, 1719 01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:28,960 Speaker 3: he always send you something. But I listen. The only 1720 01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:29,720 Speaker 3: hall of fame I. 1721 01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:31,679 Speaker 5: Would ever go, and it would be the UFC, because 1722 01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,320 Speaker 5: I think, you know, I had a great run doing 1723 01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,160 Speaker 5: what I did and that that's it. But the other 1724 01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:40,800 Speaker 5: stuff I don't know. Yeah, yeah, it's it's not what 1725 01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:41,479 Speaker 5: you think it is. 1726 01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:43,760 Speaker 2: Well, Daniel Cormier is going to join us here in 1727 01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:45,080 Speaker 2: a few minutes. He's in a lot of hall of 1728 01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,320 Speaker 2: fames himself, but he was just inducted, I believe, into 1729 01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:49,639 Speaker 2: the Louisiana Sports Hall of Fame. And he was calling 1730 01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:53,479 Speaker 2: fights on the night upon which his induction was to happen. 1731 01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:55,680 Speaker 2: So while you mma guys, you know, you guys get 1732 01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:57,600 Speaker 2: in sounds like these guys get inducted into hall of 1733 01:20:57,640 --> 01:20:59,680 Speaker 2: fames and they don't show up for the ceremony. So 1734 01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:01,800 Speaker 2: if anybody wants to put me into a Hall of 1735 01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:04,280 Speaker 2: fame one day, I would probably show up, be there 1736 01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:08,000 Speaker 2: fucking introducing yourself. Right, hey, Ray, have a great day 1737 01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:09,759 Speaker 2: to better evening. We'll talk to you out of recap 1738 01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:10,639 Speaker 2: three oh four next week. 1739 01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:12,559 Speaker 3: All right, very good. 1740 01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:17,679 Speaker 2: You're right with us every week here on the ANAK 1741 01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:19,920 Speaker 2: and Florian Podcast and now with us the man who's 1742 01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:23,280 Speaker 2: in more hall of Fames than anyone. Oh shit, the 1743 01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:26,960 Speaker 2: owner of the Daniel Cormier Wrestling Academy, head coach of 1744 01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:31,200 Speaker 2: the Gilroy High School wrestling team, UFC Hall of Famer. 1745 01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:33,120 Speaker 2: How many Hall of Fames, Daniel Cormier. 1746 01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:36,639 Speaker 9: I just got my trophy from the Louisiana Hall of Fame. 1747 01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:38,639 Speaker 3: So I'm in four. I'm in four. I'm lucky. 1748 01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:41,599 Speaker 9: I'm in the Louisiana Sports Hall of Fame, High School 1749 01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:44,519 Speaker 9: Hall of Fame, UFC Hall of Fame, Junior College Wrestling 1750 01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:44,920 Speaker 9: Hall of Fame. 1751 01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:46,879 Speaker 7: So yeah, I've been lucky. 1752 01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,280 Speaker 2: And you're a busy guy. Well we appreciate your time. 1753 01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:51,639 Speaker 2: I know you're leaving for Manchester for UFC three oh four. 1754 01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:52,240 Speaker 2: What tomorrow? 1755 01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:56,880 Speaker 9: Yeah, I leave tomorrow in the morning. I'm I didn't 1756 01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:58,960 Speaker 9: want to go because we're going. I'm going for a 1757 01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:01,320 Speaker 9: long time because I'm going to Abu Dhabi, which I 1758 01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:04,200 Speaker 9: just heard you're letting me go by myself. 1759 01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:08,360 Speaker 2: John, Hey, I mean, hey, I want to be there 1760 01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:11,280 Speaker 2: with you last Saturday for Viena Kakara Doba. But you 1761 01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:14,080 Speaker 2: know they remember I show up, you know, Hey, so 1762 01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:18,760 Speaker 2: so you posted something on your social media about the 1763 01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,040 Speaker 2: Louisiana Sports Hall of Fame and then I was like, hey, man, 1764 01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:23,920 Speaker 2: I'd like to go to this induction ceremony to support 1765 01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,439 Speaker 2: and then You're like, it was last night, so your 1766 01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:28,080 Speaker 2: schedule didn't allow you to be there. 1767 01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:31,400 Speaker 3: No, it sucks, man, I was working. It was Uh, 1768 01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:33,240 Speaker 3: we were out in Saudi Arabia. 1769 01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:35,599 Speaker 9: You remember that that sauna. 1770 01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:37,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're. 1771 01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:41,400 Speaker 9: In Saudi Arabia. Won the count when it happened, it 1772 01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:44,000 Speaker 9: kind of that was terrible. Man, that's once the lifetime thing. 1773 01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:44,880 Speaker 9: I wish I got to go. 1774 01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:49,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, so uh, a few questions and then I'm gonna 1775 01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:51,200 Speaker 2: let kem flo in and then we'll let you get 1776 01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:53,160 Speaker 2: on your way. I want to get into UFC three 1777 01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:57,480 Speaker 2: oh four. But before that, Anderson Ord, your golf commercial 1778 01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:01,080 Speaker 2: is outstanding, objectively out stated. I'm not saying this as 1779 01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:04,519 Speaker 2: your friend, right, but you don't necessarily want to act 1780 01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:08,720 Speaker 2: or do movies, despite some of those opportunities coming your 1781 01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:12,439 Speaker 2: way and people talking about you and sir Charles Barkley 1782 01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:13,120 Speaker 2: type terms. 1783 01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:13,519 Speaker 4: You don't. 1784 01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:16,960 Speaker 2: You have a tremendous comedic sense. You don't seemingly want 1785 01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:17,559 Speaker 2: to act though. 1786 01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:20,280 Speaker 9: Really no, I don't know. I don't really want to act, 1787 01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:22,720 Speaker 9: but it's okay. Hey John, and speaking of Anderson Nord, 1788 01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:23,639 Speaker 9: look what I just got. 1789 01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:30,760 Speaker 3: You go do the. 1790 01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:36,400 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, No, it's just it's just not something that 1791 01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:39,120 Speaker 9: I've wanted to do. I mean, i'd be I guess 1792 01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:41,519 Speaker 9: I would try it. I just had a bad experience 1793 01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:44,639 Speaker 9: early in my career that I didn't like. And sometimes 1794 01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:48,360 Speaker 9: one experience can form you and uh, that's kind of 1795 01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:50,560 Speaker 9: what happened to me. I had that bad experience and 1796 01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:53,400 Speaker 9: I just took so fricking low. 1797 01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:56,360 Speaker 3: Well you can cuss from this night here. You It 1798 01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:57,719 Speaker 3: just took so fucking long. 1799 01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:00,800 Speaker 9: I would sit around for hours just not doing nothing. 1800 01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:01,760 Speaker 3: I'm like, what is this shit? 1801 01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:06,400 Speaker 9: Man, I ain't doing my wrestling career. My wrestling career. 1802 01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:10,000 Speaker 9: They always say when you're internationally wrestling, you hurry up 1803 01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:12,320 Speaker 9: and you wait, you hurry up and you wait. And 1804 01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:14,240 Speaker 9: I was just done hurry up and wait, man, I 1805 01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:16,160 Speaker 9: can't and that's what movie sets look like. 1806 01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:19,320 Speaker 2: So I was out, all right, I only have one 1807 01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:21,599 Speaker 2: fight related question for you and then I'm gonna send 1808 01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:24,600 Speaker 2: it to Ken Flow. So we have Bilah Muhammad on 1809 01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:26,720 Speaker 2: the show. A couple of weeks ago. He made a 1810 01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:29,360 Speaker 2: cameo today and I'm not asking you a question. It's 1811 01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:31,519 Speaker 2: an open ended statement and you can say what you want. 1812 01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:34,240 Speaker 2: I know you're calling the fight, but here's my statement. 1813 01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:39,400 Speaker 2: Blao doesn't think Leon seemingly is as good as you 1814 01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:39,920 Speaker 2: and I do. 1815 01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:42,439 Speaker 3: You know what's kind of crazy. 1816 01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:46,599 Speaker 9: I was actually just talking to Sports Illustrated about something 1817 01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:50,920 Speaker 9: John and I said, I hope Leon Edwards doesn't think 1818 01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:54,439 Speaker 9: he's fighting the same belal Mohammed from before. So I 1819 01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:56,840 Speaker 9: think we're in a situation where both of these guys 1820 01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:59,720 Speaker 9: are looking at the other going, well, he ain't what 1821 01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:03,040 Speaker 9: he supposed to be. Because when I hear Leon Edwards 1822 01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:06,280 Speaker 9: talk about the competition, I hear a guy that kind 1823 01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:09,880 Speaker 9: of it feels like Rocky expects the Belaw that he 1824 01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:11,880 Speaker 9: kicked in the head in round one of the first 1825 01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,560 Speaker 9: fight and that he was kind of beating. That's not 1826 01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:17,639 Speaker 9: the same Bal Mohammed. But I know balal Mohammad needs 1827 01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,200 Speaker 9: to recognize that it's not the same Leon Edwards. Now, 1828 01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:22,880 Speaker 9: we saw Leon Edwards change from Fighting one to Fight 1829 01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:26,719 Speaker 9: two against Kamara Uswan. We saw Leon Edwards make Kobe Covington. 1830 01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:29,000 Speaker 9: I mean, he looked old. He made Kobe look old 1831 01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:32,479 Speaker 9: in one fight. So both of these guys are much 1832 01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:36,320 Speaker 9: better than they are the first time. And I truly 1833 01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:39,320 Speaker 9: believe that this is all gamesmanship. Boys, we're getting to 1834 01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:41,880 Speaker 9: that point, kid blow whereas the gamesman ship starts to 1835 01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:43,960 Speaker 9: show on where you insult the guy to make yourself 1836 01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:46,559 Speaker 9: feel a little more confident going into the competition. 1837 01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:49,439 Speaker 7: Well, yeah, it definitely could be a recipe for disaster 1838 01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:51,840 Speaker 7: if either of those guys are thinking that way. I 1839 01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:54,200 Speaker 7: remember I underestimated Gray Majerd. I was like, ah, I'm 1840 01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:56,880 Speaker 7: gonna kill Grey Maner. He looked like crap against I's 1841 01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:00,920 Speaker 7: I'm gonna smoke this dude didn't go my way? DC, 1842 01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:03,400 Speaker 7: What do you think about aspinall Man? You face the 1843 01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:05,840 Speaker 7: best of the best the headweight division, a lot of 1844 01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:08,880 Speaker 7: the guys that were truly truly elite, and of course 1845 01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:10,840 Speaker 7: a lot of guys like John Jones, a lot of 1846 01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:13,599 Speaker 7: people believe as a goat. What do you think about 1847 01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:18,720 Speaker 7: Aspinall's I guess potential to maybe be the goat? I mean, 1848 01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:21,760 Speaker 7: not a whole lot of guys have that level of athleticism. 1849 01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:25,640 Speaker 9: Well, he's just he's so big, he's so strong, and 1850 01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:27,800 Speaker 9: he seems to have a very well wounded the skill set. 1851 01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:30,960 Speaker 9: You know, we have seen this guy submit people. We 1852 01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:33,479 Speaker 9: have seen this guy knock people out. We see him 1853 01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:37,120 Speaker 9: just continue to improve and evolve, and every single time 1854 01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:40,640 Speaker 9: he goes out there, kid fold, he gets better. And 1855 01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:44,479 Speaker 9: I think he's getting better because he's training with the. 1856 01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:45,360 Speaker 7: Right guys now. 1857 01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,160 Speaker 9: He said that now he has a full heavyweight camp. 1858 01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:52,519 Speaker 9: No more small guys on his gym team. It's all 1859 01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:55,719 Speaker 9: big guys as he prepares to fight even bigger guys. 1860 01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:58,639 Speaker 9: So I think this dude is I think he's good man. 1861 01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:01,160 Speaker 9: I think he's really really good, and I think that 1862 01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:03,040 Speaker 9: he has potential to be the face of his division 1863 01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:03,720 Speaker 9: for a long time. 1864 01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:10,519 Speaker 7: Patty Pimblet is facing King Green. If he's able to 1865 01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:13,360 Speaker 7: beat someone like King Green, do you think he finally 1866 01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:14,360 Speaker 7: gets some respect? 1867 01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:17,400 Speaker 9: You know, I think a lot of the respect comes 1868 01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:21,720 Speaker 9: down to, Uh, he made some mistakes. Flow, he made 1869 01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:25,680 Speaker 9: some mistakes in the media. He made some mistakes when 1870 01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:27,920 Speaker 9: he said I won that fight when he might he 1871 01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:31,840 Speaker 9: might not have, you know, but he recognizes it. He 1872 01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:36,400 Speaker 9: went back and said John after he said, I'll never 1873 01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:39,960 Speaker 9: make such a sure statement in the moment again, after 1874 01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:42,760 Speaker 9: what I felt after doing that in that fight, so 1875 01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:44,880 Speaker 9: he's learned, but I think it will take. 1876 01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:47,200 Speaker 7: This is the test. This is the test. 1877 01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:50,519 Speaker 9: Every young athlete has that test where you find out 1878 01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:53,160 Speaker 9: if they're real. This is the test for Patty Pemblet. 1879 01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:55,880 Speaker 9: If he gets to King Green, we will know that 1880 01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:58,920 Speaker 9: he's the real deal. But I mean Grant Dawson looked 1881 01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:01,559 Speaker 9: like the real deal until he ran into King Green 1882 01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:03,120 Speaker 9: and look at what happened to good. 1883 01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:05,840 Speaker 2: Point, Well, how about this stretch for Daniel Cormier ufc 1884 01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:09,920 Speaker 2: Apex last Saturday, Manchester, Abu Dhabi. Then you get a 1885 01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:11,960 Speaker 2: week off but not really and then you go to Perth, 1886 01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:12,880 Speaker 2: Western Australia. 1887 01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:14,360 Speaker 3: Bro, it's crazy. 1888 01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:17,240 Speaker 7: It's crazius, man, I said, I said, they're trying to 1889 01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:21,479 Speaker 7: kill me. They put them, they put it. 1890 01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:23,120 Speaker 9: They put a gun to the boy's head and said 1891 01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:24,920 Speaker 9: you died to day DC, you died a month. 1892 01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:25,759 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 1893 01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:26,320 Speaker 4: All right. 1894 01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:27,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get you out of here on this because 1895 01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:29,920 Speaker 2: I know your time is precious and I'm not trying 1896 01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:31,559 Speaker 2: to put you on the spot. But I did mention 1897 01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:34,600 Speaker 2: to you privately about some of the shortcomings of this 1898 01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,200 Speaker 2: boxing pay per view this weekend. Now, there were shining 1899 01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:40,960 Speaker 2: moments I thought for fighters and broadcasters alike, and far 1900 01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:42,640 Speaker 2: be it from maybe you and me as pay per 1901 01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:46,519 Speaker 2: view broadcasters, to give our opinion on another telecast. But 1902 01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:48,439 Speaker 2: we go to such great lengths to make sure that 1903 01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:51,599 Speaker 2: that dead air is not dead. And I know you can, 1904 01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:54,719 Speaker 2: you know, play video games and do other things, but dude, 1905 01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:57,080 Speaker 2: I felt myself at times watching this pay per view 1906 01:28:57,479 --> 01:28:59,760 Speaker 2: just wanting to punch myself in the fucking face. 1907 01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:02,760 Speaker 7: It's not it's just not. 1908 01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:07,080 Speaker 9: Honestly, like some of these different teams, they go with 1909 01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:09,960 Speaker 9: an idea of what they're supposed to say, and when 1910 01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:12,360 Speaker 9: they run out of things to say, they don't really 1911 01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:14,400 Speaker 9: have much to say. And I think that's kind of 1912 01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:19,040 Speaker 9: what happened last weekend. Yeah, it's very surprising that that 1913 01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:19,839 Speaker 9: still happens. 1914 01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:22,759 Speaker 2: I agree in twenty twenty four exactly. 1915 01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:26,880 Speaker 3: It wasn't that bad in nineteen eighty. 1916 01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:29,600 Speaker 9: I mean, sometimes that's just bade and last WEEKND was 1917 01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:31,320 Speaker 9: one of those times. These guys are gonna want to 1918 01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:32,280 Speaker 9: kick our asses. 1919 01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:32,840 Speaker 4: But loo. 1920 01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:34,960 Speaker 3: Fight baby. 1921 01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:38,280 Speaker 2: All right, buddy, I'll see you, I'll see it. I'll 1922 01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:40,200 Speaker 2: see you in like thirty six hours. Have a safe 1923 01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:42,519 Speaker 2: trip to a high We'll see on Wednesday morning. 1924 01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:44,440 Speaker 7: Champ, thank you all right, my brothers. 1925 01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:50,400 Speaker 2: YouTube channel, Daniel Cormier's YouTube channel, go subscribe right now. 1926 01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:53,880 Speaker 2: Thanks to DC for joining us for our UFC three 1927 01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:57,400 Speaker 2: h four preview. I don't know if you have anything 1928 01:29:57,520 --> 01:29:59,559 Speaker 2: Jay to say as far as that boxing pay per 1929 01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:04,160 Speaker 2: view was concerned. I'm trying to open in a very 1930 01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:06,920 Speaker 2: respectful way. I sent Todd Grisham a private message. I 1931 01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:09,320 Speaker 2: thought he was outstanding as the play by play guy, 1932 01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:11,920 Speaker 2: had a long conversation with Tyron Woodley. I thought, really 1933 01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:16,680 Speaker 2: he shined in moments. But obviously our pay per view 1934 01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:19,720 Speaker 2: broadcast on the UFC side has been very evolutionary, and 1935 01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:22,160 Speaker 2: especially when you're on for seven eight hours, you want 1936 01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:24,960 Speaker 2: to try to make it as watchable as possible, right, 1937 01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:28,960 Speaker 2: But it's really challenging in combat sports when you don't 1938 01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:30,519 Speaker 2: know how long a fight is going to go and 1939 01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:34,439 Speaker 2: you have filler scenarios. But it made me think, and 1940 01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:38,400 Speaker 2: this has nothing to do with my job, really appreciatively 1941 01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:40,840 Speaker 2: about the UFC pay per view telecast, Kenny, I don't 1942 01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:43,160 Speaker 2: know if you or Jay have anything. 1943 01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:43,360 Speaker 4: On that. 1944 01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:47,639 Speaker 7: I see. I didn't see the fight, so I really 1945 01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:50,760 Speaker 7: there was just a lot of dead air between you know. 1946 01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:52,720 Speaker 2: For me, it's like they say, the National Football League 1947 01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:55,080 Speaker 2: on television is so good that you could argue it 1948 01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:57,000 Speaker 2: better than going to a game live, right, And a 1949 01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:59,559 Speaker 2: lot of the UFC pay per views over the years 1950 01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:02,439 Speaker 2: I've gone on to rather than taken in the broadcast. 1951 01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:05,320 Speaker 2: And when I do watch these international pay per views 1952 01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:10,280 Speaker 2: forgetting you right, because you're okay, you know, but everything 1953 01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:13,000 Speaker 2: other than no, it really is just very well polished. 1954 01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:14,800 Speaker 2: And you notice that if a little thing goes wrong 1955 01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:16,680 Speaker 2: on a UFC broadcast, you're like whoa, whoa, Well, you 1956 01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:18,559 Speaker 2: know what I mean. But it's just clean. And also, yeah, 1957 01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:20,800 Speaker 2: it keeps you energized, you know. And on the East 1958 01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:23,519 Speaker 2: Coast at one thirty in the morning, I need some juice. 1959 01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:28,679 Speaker 2: The reasons I mean, Dana White, Craig Borsorry Zat, Candido Lappy, 1960 01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:32,759 Speaker 2: laplant On and on. I could go carry Hubert, Brian Gallagher, 1961 01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:35,879 Speaker 2: Steve guyett On and on. I could go editors' producers. 1962 01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:39,639 Speaker 2: There's so many reasons that I think make our combat 1963 01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:43,160 Speaker 2: sports telecast in a league of its own, But so 1964 01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:48,519 Speaker 2: many lengths and so many dollars go towards that initiative, right, 1965 01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:52,160 Speaker 2: And so when people will say things about our broadcast 1966 01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:55,080 Speaker 2: team or about our broadcast in a complimentary way, and 1967 01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:56,840 Speaker 2: I turn it back and say, we're just trying to 1968 01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:58,800 Speaker 2: be as listenable and watchable as possible for seven or 1969 01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:02,120 Speaker 2: eight fucking hours. You know, mission accomplished, hopefully most of 1970 01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:05,080 Speaker 2: the time for our fans in the UK at four 1971 01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:07,200 Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning. Or Ken Flow fighting it with 1972 01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:09,639 Speaker 2: two kids at twelve thirty am in North Carolina. 1973 01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:09,880 Speaker 4: You know. 1974 01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:13,120 Speaker 2: So I don't know. Daniel just had one thing that 1975 01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:15,240 Speaker 2: he said there, Ken, just like I can't believe that 1976 01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:20,400 Speaker 2: we can't all have these really elite broadcasts start to 1977 01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:22,120 Speaker 2: finish on pay per view in twenty twenty four. 1978 01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:24,960 Speaker 7: Well, certainly, you know, the quality of the broadcasters makes 1979 01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:27,240 Speaker 7: a big difference, and you guys always kill it. But 1980 01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:30,479 Speaker 7: I think you know the fact that the UFC has 1981 01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:33,519 Speaker 7: been doing this for so long and been putting out 1982 01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:37,439 Speaker 7: so many damn fights and events over the years. It's 1983 01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:39,200 Speaker 7: a point, and I don't have a horse in the race, right, 1984 01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:42,200 Speaker 7: But the UFC just does it better than anybody out there. 1985 01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:45,320 Speaker 7: It doesn't matter what the combat sport. They just know 1986 01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:47,559 Speaker 7: how to entertain, They know how to make it watchable, 1987 01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:50,479 Speaker 7: they know how to make it exciting, and I don't 1988 01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:54,600 Speaker 7: see anybody catching up for ever. Maybe yeah, And. 1989 01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:57,680 Speaker 2: You're also comparing like an entertainment type fight. We're not 1990 01:32:57,800 --> 01:33:00,200 Speaker 2: comparing it to a fight that Lampley's calling her a 1991 01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:02,360 Speaker 2: fury fight or something like that, you know. But ultimately, 1992 01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:04,680 Speaker 2: as the UFC, you should be comparing the UFC to 1993 01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:06,760 Speaker 2: the NBA in the NFL and Major League Baseball at 1994 01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:09,800 Speaker 2: this point, not to this fair And I hope that 1995 01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:12,639 Speaker 2: the Sports Emmys in the United States of America will 1996 01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:17,240 Speaker 2: acknowledge the UFC's championship coverage in those categories fair because 1997 01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:20,800 Speaker 2: it's as good as the NBA finals and certainly there's 1998 01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:23,040 Speaker 2: a lot of resources that go into it. Are you 1999 01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:25,800 Speaker 2: getting out of here right now? Yeah, I have a final. 2000 01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:27,960 Speaker 2: I just want you to just one thing. When the 2001 01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:30,599 Speaker 2: first fight with Leon and Blaw so, you know, Safe 2002 01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:33,600 Speaker 2: Souloud was circumstantially in Blao's corner and he, you know, 2003 01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:35,800 Speaker 2: after round one, he was like he took his best shot, 2004 01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:38,240 Speaker 2: you know, and they were encouraging blow to sprint after 2005 01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:40,320 Speaker 2: round one. And I think you know, anyone who's looked 2006 01:33:40,360 --> 01:33:43,479 Speaker 2: at some film of blal, I'm just fascinting to see 2007 01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:45,439 Speaker 2: what he comes out with, but he did sort of 2008 01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:47,280 Speaker 2: get through it. And if you look at Mike Perry 2009 01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:50,320 Speaker 2: in that bot, but Mike Perry took some blasts. I 2010 01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:52,840 Speaker 2: can't believe he didn't get knocked the fuck out last night. 2011 01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:55,000 Speaker 2: So Bellow's tough and game and I think if he 2012 01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:56,640 Speaker 2: has the right game plan, it's going to be a 2013 01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:59,599 Speaker 2: tough night for Leon Edwards to you know, it's tough 2014 01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:01,640 Speaker 2: to keep defend. And I just wanted to get your 2015 01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:04,160 Speaker 2: thoughts on that safe soud point about him taking his 2016 01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:06,400 Speaker 2: best shot again, I think it speaks to this sort 2017 01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:09,400 Speaker 2: of false narrative coming out of Team Muhammad about this 2018 01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:12,560 Speaker 2: head kick as hail Mary Kenny. That headkick weapon is 2019 01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:15,600 Speaker 2: one of Leon's best, most concussive weapons. It's there for 2020 01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:18,759 Speaker 2: twenty five minutes potentially, like he took his best shot, 2021 01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:22,400 Speaker 2: it wobbled him and if that fight realized a third, fourth, 2022 01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:24,400 Speaker 2: or fifth round, more head kicks could have been coming 2023 01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:27,840 Speaker 2: and maybe he wouldn't have taken the tertiary blow right. 2024 01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:30,479 Speaker 7: And I think it's a good thing because baalall knows 2025 01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:33,800 Speaker 7: that he can be hurt by that weapon, specifically, he 2026 01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:36,439 Speaker 7: can be hurt. And I think that if you go 2027 01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:39,719 Speaker 7: back even to the Sean Brady fight where he rallied 2028 01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:43,040 Speaker 7: back in in tremendous fashion. I mean, I think balall 2029 01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:46,439 Speaker 7: the toughness, I don't think that's going to be an issue. 2030 01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:50,360 Speaker 7: He's not tapping out, you know, And I think he's 2031 01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:54,000 Speaker 7: going to perform extremely well. And I think that that's 2032 01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:56,560 Speaker 7: kind of the approach if he can get Leon, not 2033 01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:58,880 Speaker 7: only does Baalaon need to spread, he needs to get 2034 01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:02,000 Speaker 7: Leon to sprint. That's the difference. And he's he's got 2035 01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:04,200 Speaker 7: to find a way to be able to do that. 2036 01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:07,280 Speaker 7: Fascinated by the fight, I think it's gonna be a 2037 01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:09,760 Speaker 7: real close one and a very entertaining one as well. 2038 01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:12,040 Speaker 2: All Right, we got to get on out of here. 2039 01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:15,720 Speaker 2: Wheels up Manchester, England for UFC three oh four. Thanks 2040 01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:17,479 Speaker 2: to everybody for checking us out live today. Thanks to 2041 01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:20,439 Speaker 2: Donald Cruz, Daniel Cormier and Ray Longo for joining us. 2042 01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:22,680 Speaker 2: Thanks to our producer Cody Merrow, Thanks to Boston and 2043 01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:25,880 Speaker 2: Jason Anakin Studio. I'm just giving you a hard time, man, 2044 01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:27,720 Speaker 2: you know, it's all love. I know you're going to 2045 01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:29,000 Speaker 2: storm out of here in a minute, but I do 2046 01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:32,640 Speaker 2: love you. And coming up on Wednesday, I believe a 2047 01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:35,000 Speaker 2: full preview with predictions for UFC three oh four and 2048 01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:37,280 Speaker 2: one thing. I am going to ask Kenny Florian what 2049 01:35:37,439 --> 01:35:40,840 Speaker 2: would he ask Blao Muhammad or Leon Edwards in the 2050 01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:44,760 Speaker 2: fighter meeting, because I think I have pretty good pre 2051 01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:48,760 Speaker 2: thought and questions, but I'm gonna pick Kemflow's brain on that. 2052 01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:52,080 Speaker 2: He'll also make nine predictions alongside Brian Petrie and Ken 2053 01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:54,640 Speaker 2: Flow will also spend two thousand dollars at uf to 2054 01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:56,880 Speaker 2: see three oh four. I wish you, Jason and t 2055 01:35:57,040 --> 01:36:00,639 Speaker 2: Muhammad all the best in Manchester, England as you try 2056 01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:03,920 Speaker 2: to wrest the belt away from the headshot dead guy. 2057 01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:08,040 Speaker 2: Appreciate that John Anick dot com for all the Anakin 2058 01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:11,280 Speaker 2: Florian merch one more Sleep merch and Balamahammed's merchandise can 2059 01:36:11,439 --> 01:36:14,519 Speaker 2: use code UFC three oh four or code bully fifteen 2060 01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:18,639 Speaker 2: percent off Everything can flow. Wolverine still my favorite design. 2061 01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:20,720 Speaker 2: Kenny Florian dot com is also live as well. We 2062 01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:22,479 Speaker 2: will talk to you guys on Wednesday, if not sooner. 2063 01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:25,360 Speaker 2: Until then for Ken Flowing Jason, John Anick signing off 2064 01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:27,920 Speaker 2: for now, have a great day at a better evening. 2065 01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:29,880 Speaker 2: Don't text and drive you'll fucking later. 2066 01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:43,920 Speaker 4: He