Speaker 1: Scam, Come rob froll scam, come rob Froam Goddess, what's
Speaker 1: popping Congregation at Chigel.
Speaker 2: Lacey Mosley aka scam God, is back to you with
Speaker 2: another episode about robbery, fraud and those who practice it.
Speaker 2: It is a comedy show. We will laugh at the criminals,
Speaker 2: we will never laugh at the victims. And you know
Speaker 2: that I'm what, yes, excited, a thrilled, elated, kind of
Speaker 2: a little bit of a scam hunter to get this
Speaker 2: gem on the show. Mel Mitchell is a comedian, actress,
Speaker 2: and digital storyteller. She's opened for veteran comics like Roy Woods,
Speaker 2: Junior's and If Johnson, as well as our Lenox. You
Speaker 2: may know her from her TikTok series TikTok or Scare
Speaker 2: Tactics from Jordan Peele's Monkey Pop productions. She has been
Speaker 2: headlining tours all over the country, making people laugh in
Speaker 2: every city.
Speaker 1: Every state.
Speaker 3: Period.
Speaker 1: Married come on, I'm doing to make hard pio period.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy you're here. I'm glad to be had, sister,
Speaker 1: glad to be had.
Speaker 2: I've been playing with some iterations of the show and like,
Speaker 2: what version, what am I gonna do at the top?
Speaker 1: I don't like to make people work.
Speaker 2: So I used to ask people what their relationships with
Speaker 2: scams are, but that kind of makes you have to
Speaker 2: work a little bit. So I will ask that just
Speaker 2: in case there's something you want to volunteer. But the
Speaker 2: first thing I'm gonna ask you is is it a scam?
Speaker 1: Is the scheme? Is it a real thing? I want
Speaker 1: your opinion about essential oils? Mmm? I think it depends
Speaker 1: on the oil I haven't. I haven't heard that name
Speaker 1: in years, So that's so maybe it was a scam
Speaker 1: because I had or like, what is that? I don't
Speaker 1: even know what you're talking about. That's the thing, Like,
Speaker 1: it's so many of the oils have come to win
Speaker 1: and we.
Speaker 4: Don't even try to sell your dope tarror or get
Speaker 4: you involved in that program.
Speaker 1: No, what is that? Oh they came after me. It's
Speaker 1: like a MLM marketing come out and say that like
Speaker 1: a wake up now for oil. Yeah, but sometimes the
Speaker 1: oil do be it to be good, Like so, okay,
Speaker 1: you smell of peppermint and it feels like you did
Speaker 1: a little bubby cocaine smell. Some of them do be good,
Speaker 1: Like I had a man dang because because the fact
Speaker 1: that these aren't on the streets no more. Might prove
Speaker 1: the point that these were scams, now that I think
Speaker 1: about it, because did you ever try? How not you
Speaker 1: got them? You got to hit you doing a bump
Speaker 1: right now on air? What can I talk about interpropriate
Speaker 1: things on here? I forgot, Well we are we are
Speaker 1: rided ur you can talk about anything. I got. Got
Speaker 1: with the kuchi essential oil to put it on your kuchi,
Speaker 1: there was no record, There was no Regulo Yoni oil
Speaker 1: that got me around twenty eighteen. And you're supposed to
Speaker 1: take it and rub the oil into your lips in
Speaker 1: kuchie area. And isn't that for like giving birth. That's
Speaker 1: when you need to start looping your couchie. They say
Speaker 1: it'll heal the yeasts and the BB's and the things.
Speaker 1: I was just like, let's just try it. And the
Speaker 1: whole time, honestly, I was just alerted to latex. I
Speaker 1: didn't realize that was just my right, which means that
Speaker 1: you were having protected sex. You were actually protecting your
Speaker 1: kuchi and then the latex was giving you a problem.
Speaker 1: That's that's actually that's literally what it was. But I'm
Speaker 1: over here doubting my kuchi and oil like I'm about
Speaker 1: to fry some fucking chicken and yah, you know what
Speaker 1: it was? See what sometimes a tea trioil, a peppermint oil. Sure,
Speaker 1: every once in a while, but near your COUCHI well,
Speaker 1: not in the I'm just saying in general. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying in general because the teacher used to help me
Speaker 1: with my ingrown and stuff like that. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can put that on the side and are coming in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but oils are fine individually, but when you put them
Speaker 1: all together and big essential oil gets involved, big oil,
Speaker 1: big oil, big oil, like big pharma, now we're easing
Speaker 1: into scam territory, right because why they got people on
Speaker 1: the streets like running the black selling the product oils
Speaker 1: and stuff. I don't want any doctor sebby asparagus to
Speaker 1: cure cancer. I don't want no seams. We're not going
Speaker 1: for we can't. So yeah, that's that's my take on
Speaker 1: the oil of it all. Yeah, what's your relationship with scams?
Speaker 1: Have you ever been scammed or no? People who've been
Speaker 1: scam I'm sure I'm probably getting scammed right now. I
Speaker 1: don't know because I'm an easy look on this show.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you're being scammed a little bit. I'm being scammed.
Speaker 1: You know, I live in America. I'm paying ninety dollars
Speaker 1: for gas my chick for like kids, men, it was
Speaker 1: nine dollars. I think because I upsized the lemonade. Probably yourself,
Speaker 1: that's too every day. Every day is a scam. Every
Speaker 1: day I wake up in this god forsaken effing country,
Speaker 1: it's a goddamn scam. Everything, everything's a scam. I went
Speaker 1: to Walmart today. I went to go look for the
Speaker 1: angel rees Barbie. I knew they weren't going to have
Speaker 1: it because it was a black Walmart, but I was
Speaker 1: gonna try anyway. I bought some cups, some soap, a deodorant.
Speaker 1: What else did I even buy? I think that was
Speaker 1: about it. Fifty dollars. I can't see doll hairs. I
Speaker 1: don't even ooh not doll hairs, doll I can't even
Speaker 1: walk up in ad Bittional more because every time I
Speaker 1: go in there, I go for one thing. And you know,
Speaker 1: black people are supposed to be boycotting Target still, so
Speaker 1: we're not supposed to up there anyway to Target. So
Speaker 1: you gotta go to Walmart. But Walmart's hard to get
Speaker 1: to on targets up the street and then I've been
Speaker 1: driving all around town trying to avoid going to target
Speaker 1: and how to pass eight targets and also as black women,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, everybody needs to give us a fucking past.
Speaker 2: Like I should be able to fly on a private jet.
Speaker 2: I know it's bad for the air, and get the
Speaker 2: mean I should be able to do it because that's reparations.
Speaker 1: Y'all ain't want to give me my forty acres and
Speaker 1: my mule, so at least let me in this jet.
Speaker 1: I'm getting on me a private jet. Y'all kiss my
Speaker 1: mass man. Right? Why why are you trying to do
Speaker 1: the right thing? We always on nobody else doing it.
Speaker 1: Taylor Swifton took a private jet from Newark to New
Speaker 1: York and I got to sit in the goddamn South
Speaker 1: a private jet from from Hollywood to Pasadena. She been
Speaker 1: just flying all over the police time, wasting good good
Speaker 1: O zone, good old zone. I'm not gonna take no
Speaker 1: ship from you all the whole Like we know it's
Speaker 1: a hole in the O zone layer, but she didn't.
Speaker 1: She didn't expanded it. It has her own hole. You
Speaker 1: know how you can buy a star. Taylor Swift has
Speaker 1: her own hole in the O zone layer that specifically
Speaker 1: she made from taking that private jet. I for god
Speaker 1: damn driveway, and then she'd be you know what people
Speaker 1: do in private jets too, is like it's also a
Speaker 1: flex to like let someone else use your jet. You
Speaker 1: rent it out, yeah, when you don't need it, and
Speaker 1: you just tell them to pay for the gas and
Speaker 1: that's like thirty k you pay, You're tell them to
Speaker 1: pay for gas and then they fly your jet around
Speaker 1: and then you can call on a favor later. Like
Speaker 1: she knows the whole game. She's she's in it. She's
Speaker 1: a sagittariust and it's something about all of them. And
Speaker 1: I haven't met a single normal sagittarius in my life. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's so with cancers.
Speaker 2: The men are bad with sadgets, the women are bad,
Speaker 2: but the men actually aren't that bad, Like I like
Speaker 2: a sad jay Z Offset Okay, damn, why would you
Speaker 2: say that your name?
Speaker 1: Okay, well that's just off the top of my head.
Speaker 1: That's just that's just Fred Hampton. I don't know, No,
Speaker 1: that's other day he was born. That's the day he died. Yes,
Speaker 1: he died, remember because jay Z said something that he
Speaker 1: was born the same day. Yeah, friend Hampton, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was like his death day. But also such a sagittarius
Speaker 1: man thing to say, why why are you celebrating the
Speaker 1: day that a black leader died? Oh, I was born
Speaker 1: on that day that the black leader died. But why
Speaker 1: is a scorpio? Is he a scorpio or oh no?
Speaker 1: November twenty oh, oh, I think that'sius. I think that's
Speaker 1: the cuss. Let's see, huh the way he was a scorpio,
Speaker 1: it still kinds a scorpio apparently. Well, the way that
Speaker 1: he did Carti and Carti is a nice lady. And
Speaker 1: I want to say the new man is also oh
Speaker 1: se dis Yeah November twenty nine. Oh, she keeps dating
Speaker 1: people in the same range. Damn, same level of hell,
Speaker 1: the same circle of hell. Because that new Nigerian soccer
Speaker 1: player is also evil apparently. But here's My parents kept
Speaker 1: telling me to watch Shameless, and I think they wanted
Speaker 1: me to watch it so that they could realize, like
Speaker 1: they wanted me to realize they weren't that bad because
Speaker 1: they had generational trauma and they put a lot of
Speaker 1: shit on me. I'm the eldest daughter and oh god bless. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been through there. They that took me through there,
Speaker 1: and they were like, look at this, look at how
Speaker 1: bad these people are on this TV show? Were that bad?
Speaker 5: Right? Like?
Speaker 1: But watching Shameless has been something I've been doing that.
Speaker 2: It's like eleven seasons, I think, like, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of content to watch and it's all about generational curses,
Speaker 2: trauma and how sometimes you can't get away from it
Speaker 2: because it's not on you, it's in you, and you
Speaker 2: look for familiar patterns and then you end up in
Speaker 2: situations that feel familiar that aren't good for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a mess magnet. Damn it'd be up.
Speaker 1: Then that's why you gotta like unpack your shit. Listen.
Speaker 1: I've done all the therapy I've hopped in and paid
Speaker 1: a lot of people a lot of money just try
Speaker 1: to fix shit, and then sometimes is still there. It's
Speaker 1: hard to go to therapy when like the people who
Speaker 1: are the reason you need therapy won't go to it.
Speaker 1: Because I can get fixed all the shit I want to,
Speaker 1: and as soon as I get around people who unfixed,
Speaker 1: they break my shit again and I come to the
Speaker 1: same piece of brain and got to put back together right.
Speaker 1: That's why alan On exists.
Speaker 2: That's why there's AA for addicts, but there's also alan
Speaker 2: On for people who have addicts in their life who
Speaker 2: have terrorized them. So they have groups and meetings for
Speaker 2: non addicts where you can sit down and talk about
Speaker 2: all the ship that crazy ass did to you with
Speaker 2: other people who understand. That's almost like, what's the movie
Speaker 2: with a Viola Davis and j Lo and they was?
Speaker 2: She was in like the AA for like mothers who
Speaker 2: have lost sons, and they was talking and fighting. She
Speaker 2: was going to find a person who killed her son.
Speaker 2: And the whole time, j Loo wasn't real, right, Okay,
Speaker 2: I know what you're talking about. That was like that
Speaker 2: was like, no, that's that's a Netflix show. When you're
Speaker 2: talking about Light and Eve, that was that was Viola's
Speaker 2: moment to be Liam Neeson. She was neck chopping, she
Speaker 2: was out here in the streets.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was. It was it was Jlo won real.
Speaker 1: That was a good movie. What you that came out?
Speaker 1: I remember being like this cinema. People who understand this
Speaker 1: podcast know that I have issues with j Low. They
Speaker 1: saw people see they saw how she did me. She
Speaker 1: did me dirty, and she really run for it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and she was trying, she was letting it go. She
Speaker 1: just kept extending it. She kept talking about the ship,
Speaker 1: trying to make herself a victim, and nobody was believing
Speaker 1: her because it's like, girl, we know we have a
Speaker 1: track record of being the biggest bitch ever, sister, so
Speaker 1: do this to you. I didn't. I didn't even bring
Speaker 1: this ship up. I'm not gonna say that. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to say what I really want to say because
Speaker 1: some other people pissed me off and I was told
Speaker 1: not to say thank you by my publicist, so I'm
Speaker 1: not going to say those things. Yeah, Yeah, j Lo
Speaker 1: is interesting. I had one of my posts that made
Speaker 1: that attraction was so funny because I was talking about
Speaker 1: when I was a PA for the Grammys, I was
Speaker 1: the talent escort for her band when she did the
Speaker 1: Motown tribute, and which why was she in the Motown Tribune?
Speaker 1: Why was j Lo doing the Motown tribute? Are you what?
Speaker 1: And you were one non nigga, not even a group
Speaker 1: of niggas, So you're doing so men a singer, you
Speaker 1: can't even sing down. You should never be nowhere near
Speaker 1: the Motown Why was Jenny from the block doing the
Speaker 1: Detroit motor Town tribute. Honestly, though, I kind of low
Speaker 1: key respected as a skimmer. Jenny is a skimmer, and
Speaker 1: she has always known how to position herself to survive.
Speaker 1: You ain't get rid of Geny's she from the streets,
Speaker 1: she from the coltosac ain't you the game has been
Speaker 1: played this whole time, and you know, and she has
Speaker 1: some songs his and movies. Now she got her some
Speaker 1: movies on her. She's trying to steal songs from bites
Speaker 1: from black queens. So for you to have have infamously
Speaker 1: solen music and demos and voice and vocals from like
Speaker 1: how black women songs are shying do and to do
Speaker 1: a Motown tribute Motown, which is the foundation of why
Speaker 1: would she do that?
Speaker 4: But also so funny, oh crazy, But also I kind
Speaker 4: of respect, like.
Speaker 1: Just like because honestly, no one has checked her and
Speaker 1: she's gone unchecked, So why would she not keep going?
Speaker 1: Why was she not like if they were like if
Speaker 1: I can get away with this, I'm gonna go get right.
Speaker 1: Let's let's right it up, let's go for the generational run.
Speaker 1: She didn't eat that, Like I actually kind of underspand
Speaker 1: like it's it's good Scar God. Let's get into the episode. Yes,
Speaker 1: so historic could wings.
Speaker 2: This is where I well over Gale Mitch with the
Speaker 2: famous con Caper group of criminals. We don't know yet,
Speaker 2: and maybe we love them, maybe we hate them, but
Speaker 2: we will never laugh at the victims.
Speaker 1: We will laugh at Joe criminal ass.
Speaker 2: So an eighty three year old man's ultra rare Star
Speaker 2: Wars lego collection has gone missing.
Speaker 1: Oh god, who has it?
Speaker 2: And how much is the whole collection really worth? That's
Speaker 2: become the subject of lawsuits and arrests. So let's go
Speaker 2: back to nineteen ninety nine. We was barely alive. We
Speaker 2: don't have to get right, just a twinkle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we are for real. We was zygoats, we zygoats cool.
Speaker 2: The first Star Wars prequel hit theaters, and a man
Speaker 2: in Kaiser organ named Ed Manzel started collecting Lego Star
Speaker 2: Wars sets.
Speaker 1: Over the next twenty years.
Speaker 2: As collection grew to seven hundred and eighty unopened, you
Speaker 2: know that's when they that's when it's real good when
Speaker 2: you ain't open Lego Star Wars sets around twelve hundred
Speaker 2: rare many figures by twenty twenty, three. His collection was
Speaker 2: described by some as the world's largest Lego Star Wars collection,
Speaker 2: and it was valued at like two hundred thousand dollars,
Speaker 2: although the actual value is disputed. But the thing is
Speaker 2: is like we put value to things.
Speaker 1: Nothing costs anything other than what we say it costs
Speaker 1: everything that we buy, how much we spend on things,
Speaker 1: It's about how much we value it. So you had
Speaker 1: og original legos, like that's crazy, right, and he was
Speaker 1: collecting them from ninety nine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he even had the Ultra Cloud City set that
Speaker 2: was worth as much as ten thousand dollars. So look,
Speaker 2: this is what we're looking at right now. Apparently this
Speaker 2: is highly valuable. And to me it just looks like
Speaker 2: plastic toards.
Speaker 1: You know, as a collector of things, aka order, I
Speaker 1: understand these bics. These are high. These be like five
Speaker 1: hundred dollars, right the old apartment complex in the in
Speaker 1: space they be having on Star Wars. Those are yeah,
Speaker 1: you never put them together, they're just in the box. No,
Speaker 1: he didn't touch them, and that makes it more valuable.
Speaker 2: That's like having comic books that you don't take out
Speaker 2: the plastic people want that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So by twenty twenty three, Ed was eighty three and
Speaker 2: had been diagnosed with cancer. He asked his son, Brian Mansell,
Speaker 2: to sell the Lego collection and put the proceeds towards
Speaker 2: his grandkid's education. Okay, grandfather a grandfather, okay.
Speaker 1: Period. Brian approached the store Brick and Menfigs to handle
Speaker 1: the sale. Brick and Menphigs is a Lego reseller chain
Speaker 1: with over three hundred franchise locations. Three hundred franchise locations
Speaker 1: for Lego selling. There's a whole other world that we
Speaker 1: have no idea about. Like you don't know what people
Speaker 1: are doing in their house, You really don't. That's crazy.
Speaker 2: I ain't know they was doing all this. They have
Speaker 2: locations in Burbank and Pasadena in Oregon. The store owner,
Speaker 2: her name was Crystal Law, and she accepted a confinement
Speaker 2: deal to sell the collection for Brian, who's the son
Speaker 2: of the grandpa who's trying to offload the stuff for
Speaker 2: his grandkids. And they made a deal that would make
Speaker 2: sure that Bricks and Menphase got thirty five percent of
Speaker 2: the cut out of the resale. Brian headed the Legos
Speaker 2: over to the store in November of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: They put a yellow sticker over the barcode to identify
Speaker 2: this stock. The collection was one of the largest sealed
Speaker 2: Star Wars collections covered. It was like covered by the
Speaker 2: local news. Everybody was like excited by the shit, which
Speaker 2: is strange to me. But you're right, we don't know
Speaker 2: what people doing.
Speaker 1: In they house. You never know, you never know. About
Speaker 1: a third of the collection did get sold and Brian
Speaker 1: melt like the sun. He was paid for it. But
Speaker 1: that's when the shenanigans started. In November twenty twenty four, Crystal,
Speaker 1: that store owner who the Reseller store, her and her
Speaker 1: husband planned to leave the US when Donald Trump won
Speaker 1: his second term. She thought the plan was for B
Speaker 1: and M Corporate to buy the store back from her,
Speaker 1: but she was fired instead. Oh and I honestly really
Speaker 1: resonate with her wanting to leave the country when Trump
Speaker 1: for the second time.
Speaker 2: I was in Ireland when he got elected a second time,
Speaker 2: and I love they're my favorite white people. Irish people
Speaker 2: are my favorite white people. They understand the pressure.
Speaker 1: They didn't let them be white for a while. Noah, Like,
Speaker 1: that's the thing about whiteness.
Speaker 2: That's why whiteness is not the same as blackness is
Speaker 2: because being black in America. It was us all realizing like, Okay,
Speaker 2: we have the same skin tone, we have the same milk.
Speaker 2: We all just gonna ride for each other. We're gonna
Speaker 2: be down for each other. Whiteness if it's not specific
Speaker 2: to the country of origin that you're from, we don't
Speaker 2: know where we're from. You stole us, but you know
Speaker 2: where you're from.
Speaker 1: So if y'all have an Irish parade, if y'all have
Speaker 1: a Scottish parade, if y'all like do anything, those are
Speaker 1: specific countries. But when y'all get together on whiteness, that's
Speaker 1: a clan rally. That's the thing. Yeah, it's not the same.
Speaker 1: They think it's the same as being black and us
Speaker 1: being out blackness.
Speaker 2: Like, no, we didn't know where we're from, so we
Speaker 2: just all locked in together because we at least know
Speaker 2: that we look like each other.
Speaker 1: You are getting in white events to be evil. The
Speaker 1: gold Post always moved to whiteness. They don't. They started
Speaker 1: accepting Italians and the Irish and all of them.
Speaker 2: And you know, so depending on the day, when she
Speaker 2: gets bad in the country, Jewish people will come niggas again.
Speaker 1: And then they started trying to hang around us again, like,
Speaker 1: hey niggas, sorry we left off for a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't be back. We back. Depends on the day, depends
Speaker 1: on the day were back though, So what's going to
Speaker 1: On's crazy? So yes, Crystal, Yes, Crystal. So we have
Speaker 1: a video from the day that she was kicked out
Speaker 1: and it shows Crystal and the new store owners of
Speaker 1: the place that she thought she was gonna get bought
Speaker 1: out of where she was fired from. So we have
Speaker 1: Crystal talking to the director of operations, Ki McAllister about
Speaker 1: the Lego collection. So here's the video.
Speaker 5: A guy named Brandon Best showed up on a Thursday
Speaker 5: night and demanded the keys. They threatened us with the
Speaker 5: police and promised to do and inventory and compensate us.
Speaker 5: They said they understood there was a large collection on
Speaker 5: consignment and acknowledge they were taking that over.
Speaker 1: They told us the same thing they told Brian Mansell
Speaker 1: that we could fight them, but they would drag it
Speaker 1: out and make it so expensive we would be putting
Speaker 1: ourselves into a whole lot of shit. Hmmm, Josh and Brandon.
Speaker 2: They took over the Lego collection and later removed identifying
Speaker 2: yellow stickers. Brian came to the store a few days
Speaker 2: later and found Crystal gone, and the new owners said
Speaker 2: they were unaware of any Star Wars collection. There were
Speaker 2: reports of a U haul truck moving Lego to the
Speaker 2: Bricks and Memphigs store in Eugene, Oregon. Mind you remember
Speaker 2: they got three hundred stores.
Speaker 1: Was Josh and Brandon also owned and on the night
Speaker 1: that the new owners took over, how much Lego was
Speaker 1: left and the store was up for debate because it
Speaker 1: wasn't So this is a Lego heights yeah, not diamonds,
Speaker 1: not the pink panther. Not care right? Why do people
Speaker 1: care about this so much? I'm confused as well. I
Speaker 1: don't know why people care about this? Go to comic
Speaker 1: con with it?
Speaker 5: Is this?
Speaker 1: How you gets? What is the motive? Okay? Continue?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: Like like, what kind of squareheaded ass bitch you're trying
Speaker 1: to impress with these legos? Hold in hands like this,
Speaker 1: hands can't even pick up shit? Hands just two circles?
Speaker 1: What's going on? Why are we here? So? Brian later
Speaker 1: found out that being in corporate had a pattern of
Speaker 1: seizing stores and grabbing assets. Brian didn't tell Ed that
Speaker 1: the Legos had been stolen. He didn't want to stress
Speaker 1: him out during his cancer treatment. But Brian did call
Speaker 1: BNM corporate and also contacted the police, but neither worked. Honestly,
Speaker 1: for one time, I'm proud of the police. Police should
Speaker 1: doing more serious endeavors. If you call the police about
Speaker 1: some legos, that just should not pull up because like,
Speaker 1: what do you mean right legos? No, we have to
Speaker 1: solve murders, and you know they only have like for
Speaker 1: solve break. Police are not very good at their jobs.
Speaker 1: I can't solve the last murder you talking about some legos. Hell,
Speaker 1: we solving more murders on tiktoks than the police are.
Speaker 1: So Brian did call B and B corporate and also
Speaker 1: contact the police. We talked about that didn't work. In
Speaker 1: April twenty twenty five, Brian got the YouTube channel Collecting
Speaker 1: Weekly to start reporting on the story. So now you're
Speaker 1: doing to reastot to YouTubers. He's like, I need help,
Speaker 1: we need to stop this. That's how you can get
Speaker 1: the word out. But when bricks and men fix, I'm
Speaker 1: so tired of saying that. I'm just gonna say B
Speaker 1: and M from this point because men fix. I don't
Speaker 1: want to fix. I don't want to say that word.
Speaker 2: Don't work like what B and M started issuing like
Speaker 2: legal threats because of the videos on YouTube, and so
Speaker 2: then they took their videos down until Reckless Ben stepped in.
Speaker 2: So Reckless Ben is another motherfucker that we we're gonna
Speaker 2: introduce your story. Ben Schneider aka Reckless Ben is a
Speaker 2: YouTube cult investigator and slackliner. Do you know what a
Speaker 2: slack liner is?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: I do not, So this is some crazy white people shit.
Speaker 2: Being a black woman going outside is dangerous for sure.
Speaker 2: We don't need to go chase a high or a thrill.
Speaker 1: Slacklining is when you extend a rope across like a
Speaker 1: very high surface, like building to building, mountain to other mountain,
Speaker 1: and then you tight rope on it. You walk on
Speaker 1: the rope and the people who do it the best
Speaker 1: don't even have a harness. They have ever seen free
Speaker 1: solo No Prisoulo is about a man who climbed Mount
Speaker 1: capy Tan with no harness, no rope, just climbed it.
Speaker 1: He could have fell to his death at any point. No,
Speaker 1: I've never heard of such a thing. You look, and
Speaker 1: I'm immediately irritated because I don't do stuff like that
Speaker 1: and never will I don't either. Being black is hard enough.
Speaker 1: Every time I leave my house, it's a thrill up
Speaker 1: my leg. When I get home, I'm like, damn, I
Speaker 1: made it another day. I didn't die literally literally, But
Speaker 1: they just be doing this kind of shit. They be
Speaker 1: living on sport mode. They need it. I just can't
Speaker 1: but continue, Okay, I mean, let me let me stop,
Speaker 1: let me take my black hat off and listen. Okay, No,
Speaker 1: keep your black hat on, because I can't unblack my
Speaker 1: ears hearing this story, because.
Speaker 3: Is you doing that?
Speaker 1: I can't. I'm black. I might title that episode. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to understand it, emphasize and empathize with the legos
Speaker 1: and the fortune legos. The math not method. None of
Speaker 1: the math is mathod we're fighting over over like plastic toys.
Speaker 1: Wait and so now this motherfucker gotta get involved, Okay,
Speaker 1: all right. In twenty twenty one, he appeared on the
Speaker 1: television competition series Go Big Show, where he broke the
Speaker 1: world records for the most flips on a slack line
Speaker 1: in sixty seconds, doubling the record so that means he
Speaker 1: was flipping on that little rope on top of the city.
Speaker 1: And white people who have now made this a thing
Speaker 1: where they're like, oh, you're just so many flips on
Speaker 1: the little tight rope. This is not a thing that
Speaker 1: people need to be doing, but we made it up, okay.
Speaker 2: So in twenty twenty four, Ben was on the news
Speaker 2: for filming himself walking a tightrope between two unfinished towers
Speaker 2: at Ocean Wide Plaza in Los Angeles. So he was
Speaker 2: hooking his rope up to towers and walking on them
Speaker 2: and everybody was like, get off them ropes.
Speaker 1: What you're doing, please get down, he's stressing us out.
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty five, Reckless Men took on B and M.
Speaker 1: I told you, I'm not saying that name no more.
Speaker 1: So he went to the Kaiser store and was greeted
Speaker 1: by a manager, Amanda, and asked about the missing legos.
Speaker 1: So now you're looking for the legos too. Amanda told
Speaker 1: him it was a corporate issue and that he had
Speaker 1: to leave. The cops arrived and removed Ben for trespassing.
Speaker 1: So this man is so unseerious that he takes unseious
Speaker 1: things seriously. So he showed up. This ain't none of
Speaker 1: his business. And he showed up to one of the
Speaker 1: Lego stores and was like we are the Legos. And
Speaker 1: then they arrested him and grabbed him and took him
Speaker 1: out of there. They took him away, So I know
Speaker 1: I'm exhausted too. I'm like when people are I die
Speaker 1: about it, like they really mean it. And even if
Speaker 1: it's Legos, right, like, you don't play about this, you
Speaker 1: don't play about Legos. But also like we know he's
Speaker 1: an un serious man. He'd be putting little ropes up
Speaker 1: to dance on in the sky. He not serious at all.
Speaker 1: He ain't never had a worry in his life. So
Speaker 1: the corporate head quarters of B and M. I told you,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that name again.
Speaker 2: It's in provo, Utah, and high ranking executives of the
Speaker 2: company are Mormon because it's Utah, because of course they are.
Speaker 2: I grew up with Mormons, Okay, Joseph Smith.
Speaker 1: I know all about him. The tabernacle, the underwear, the garments.
Speaker 1: All I know is very doctor water in the Stanley
Speaker 1: cup and soaking, Oh my god, the's soaking. That's sex.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they would like if you don't know what soaking is,
Speaker 1: it's something that the Mormon youth would do because they're
Speaker 1: not supposed to have caffeine, drink alcohol, have sex primarily
Speaker 1: all these things right, and soaking was kind of the
Speaker 1: cheek for the warning motherfuckers who actually wanted to fuck,
Speaker 1: and they would stick their penis in a woman and
Speaker 1: not move. They wouldn't have a third person come in.
Speaker 1: That is so crazy because the jumper, what do you
Speaker 1: do as the jumper? I would be the jumper. They
Speaker 1: turned on too. They're just doing a job. The jumpers
Speaker 1: just said a jump if I would be participating in
Speaker 1: sex because it's technically a three so this is group sex.
Speaker 1: Now I want to be naked. I'm gonna be Now.
Speaker 1: I gotta see your fully clothes the jumper, you're fully
Speaker 1: clothed with your shoes on, so maximum impact, and you're
Speaker 1: jumping on the bed and make the tam and the dirt,
Speaker 1: the dirt particles are crumbing crumbing into my kuci and
Speaker 1: now you got bb because because your homegirl jumped on
Speaker 1: the bed with timberlains to help you out sex and
Speaker 1: now you have dirt in your vandynam. I would definitely
Speaker 1: be the jumper, like I remember, okay, I remember like
Speaker 1: watching like remember Cinemax when Cinemax would come skin a
Speaker 1: Max skine Max. Yeah, and it was like fake porn
Speaker 1: sex or whatever, and we me and my cousins, we'd
Speaker 1: all be watching it together, which is strange, but I
Speaker 1: remember there was always like a lady in the porns
Speaker 1: who would see people having sex. Like sometimes we would
Speaker 1: be watching sex court. We watched sex court and the
Speaker 1: lawyer would come in and talk to the judge and
Speaker 1: they'd be like, meet me in my chambers, and then
Speaker 1: they did sex to each other. But then the court
Speaker 1: stenographer would walk over to the quarters and she would
Speaker 1: be looking through a window and she was like, oh,
Speaker 1: y'all doing sex to each other, and then she'd be shocked.
Speaker 1: But then she'd be like, oh, let me rub my
Speaker 1: kouchie a little bit, and I'm involved too, and they'd
Speaker 1: probably be doing and the way I'm like, stenographer, I'm like, ooh,
Speaker 1: what y'all doing? That was coochie juice all on the
Speaker 1: keyboard and you wear work somebody lest they type right home,
Speaker 1: gotta borrow yours aang while the keys sticky because you
Speaker 1: was over here fapping on the job. Nasty. Yeah, what's
Speaker 1: that smell when I hit the space bar? A wash? No,
Speaker 1: this cooshi is water. It smell like nothing. But she
Speaker 1: had the smell yeah, certain times in the like Cucchi.
Speaker 1: It's not of the money. I'm not saying stink. Hormonally,
Speaker 1: it has like Cuchie, it's pheromona, not all the time,
Speaker 1: only one week out of the month does it. Does
Speaker 1: it have a pheromone that's stronger. The rest of it
Speaker 1: is water. You know, she's like a I'm trying to
Speaker 1: describe it. Okay, I'm gonna walk with you. I'm goa
Speaker 1: walk with you. I'm gonna let you think because it's
Speaker 1: not bad. It's guccie. You know. It's not like a
Speaker 1: loud It's just like Cuchie. It's just all the coochiness,
Speaker 1: like I'll go for a walk and sat down Like
Speaker 1: that's loud fermented cushie, but just like a usual dormant
Speaker 1: Monday Cuchie. How to smell. I've talked about this on
Speaker 1: the show before. I didn't understand as a kid why
Speaker 1: in television shows and movies there would be these moments
Speaker 1: where the woman would be like about to hook up
Speaker 1: with a man and be like, let me go freshen up,
Speaker 1: and I didn't know what that meant. I didn't know
Speaker 1: why the day off. That thing like the day off
Speaker 1: the guji and some man's is nasty, and they like that,
Speaker 1: they do. They want a little fermented. I can't. They
Speaker 1: want the twain that's and they want to look. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't like that. That's why I'm gay.
Speaker 1: But I gotta be there for the right woman, because
Speaker 1: you gotta watch your kushi before I get down there
Speaker 1: and eat it. Like once you like somebody, you kind
Speaker 1: of like. They sent like when my king comes home
Speaker 1: from work. I'll be like to come here when your
Speaker 1: king comes home from work. Mm hmmm. Oh, he went
Speaker 1: and did his employments. I think that's what you horned
Speaker 1: me about. He went and did his giant water like
Speaker 1: he worked. He went to work. Okay, people you're working,
Speaker 1: don't work. Don't eat Gucci period.
Speaker 3: Period.
Speaker 1: No banks right, yes, Legos. Back to Legos and and
Speaker 1: Ben who got involved. He visited their corporate office and
Speaker 1: spoke with their CEO because he's a white man. So
Speaker 1: he was like, I need to speak to the manager.
Speaker 1: And he went all the way up to the CEO.
Speaker 1: And his name is Ammon mcneith. Why are all these
Speaker 1: names y'all? Where? So Emmon denied that anything had been stolen,
Speaker 1: and Ammon said that it had nothing to do with
Speaker 1: the corporate situation. They had nothing.
Speaker 2: He was like, I'm not any like, we ain't do nothing, okay,
Speaker 2: and he said this is a franchise problem.
Speaker 1: So then Ben went reckless mode. Remember he's reckless Ben.
Speaker 1: He set up a registered religion in order to run
Speaker 1: a raffle for the lego sets and try to make
Speaker 1: this criminal case get to law enforcement. Because doing a
Speaker 1: is it five oh one c the religious organization that
Speaker 1: you don't have to pay taxes for. Yeah. He knew
Speaker 1: that the.
Speaker 2: Government would get involved as soon as money own was involved.
Speaker 2: As soon as money's involved, he could get the government involved.
Speaker 2: So he filed a bunch of small claims like cases
Speaker 2: against the store and the company and the owners of
Speaker 2: the store. Ben created a mock revival business revival. Now,
Speaker 2: I know you're a church girl, you know, send a revival.
Speaker 1: Loa, send a re begin and me. So, I didn't
Speaker 1: know you could just register religion and this this is
Speaker 1: a family guy with the Church of Fonds. Yeah, Phonsi
Speaker 1: the Ponzi scheme. Yeah, no, I'm very close to making
Speaker 1: a church. I'm very close. I mean, since you can
Speaker 1: just do that. You know you can do that. You
Speaker 1: can do anything. And I already got it. The congregation
Speaker 1: we already in church. It's time for me to make
Speaker 1: a church. So this is the same okay he made
Speaker 1: this revival business. And the name of it, okay, welcome
Speaker 1: in the name with it, the name that he made.
Speaker 1: Irrit irritated. I know you're about to get more irritated.
Speaker 1: The name of the church is we steal from old people.
Speaker 1: If you're old, will definitely steal from you.
Speaker 2: In one incident, an actual dressed up as a ups
Speaker 2: driver and went to Josh Johnson's house in Utah. Josh
Speaker 2: called the police. The police arrested Reckless Ben on charges
Speaker 2: of stalking. So Reckless Ben starts stalking people.
Speaker 1: They also arrested him on charges of trespassing and targeted
Speaker 1: residential picketing, which means that he stalked this man, found
Speaker 1: out where he lived, and then started hooting and hollering
Speaker 1: in front of his house, and they grabbed his ass
Speaker 1: up and took him away. It's the sprinkle legos in
Speaker 1: this AI graphic for me. People online started making allegations
Speaker 1: about a conspiracy with a Mormon mafia because Josh's father
Speaker 1: held a senior position in the Latter day Saints' Church.
Speaker 1: I know the motherfuckers, gangsters organized religion. Look, I.
Speaker 2: Was raised missionary Baptist. I have a special place in
Speaker 2: my heart for religion.
Speaker 1: But I do think that the King James version, the
Speaker 1: Bibles that we get, like it's all meant to subjugate you,
Speaker 1: like the meek will inherit the earth. Like, oh, poor people,
Speaker 1: don't worry that we still at your money from you,
Speaker 1: because when you die, you'll finally when you get to
Speaker 1: having it to be grand. Then you get up there
Speaker 1: and it's don't worry about it. Don't worry about it
Speaker 1: till you die. When you die, it's gonna be lit.
Speaker 1: Don't even worry about that.
Speaker 5: What is that?
Speaker 1: Gorgeous? Crazy, so reckless.
Speaker 2: Spend has released seven videos about the saga so far
Speaker 2: on YouTube. The first one has more than six million views.
Speaker 2: Even hooting and hollering about these legos and let's watch
Speaker 2: a little bit of it.
Speaker 3: This man spent his life collecting what's now known as
Speaker 3: the world's largest lego Star Wars collection, and ever it's
Speaker 3: estimated to be worth around two hundred thousand dollars. And
Speaker 3: then the entire thing got stolen, and the police are
Speaker 3: actively working with the thieves to cover the entire thing up.
Speaker 3: But the craziest part is that the collector doesn't even
Speaker 3: know that his collection has been stolen. Yeah, the collector's son, Brian, Well,
Speaker 3: he reached out to me because he has no clue
Speaker 3: how to break this news to his dad.
Speaker 1: And at this point, my father had a help episode.
Speaker 1: We can't bring any stress to him. Well, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: ringing every alarm for these legos, and now we're reaching
Speaker 1: the end of the episode. So this is the fallout.
Speaker 2: According to the Salt Lake Tribune, Ben faced Ben reckless, Ben,
Speaker 2: who clearly is reckless. He faced misdemeanor charges of stalking,
Speaker 2: targeted residential picketing, disorderly conduct, criminal trespassing against two Utahns
Speaker 2: he deemed irresponsible for the missing lego sets, so he
Speaker 2: went after them for the legos.
Speaker 1: Like imagine, like, I'm not going to jail for legos.
Speaker 1: We're going to jail for legos. Is it a lego jail?
Speaker 1: Is the jail made of legos or is it?
Speaker 5: Just like.
Speaker 1: Maybe then I would go I would like to see
Speaker 1: a lego jail, Like like I ain't never even bought
Speaker 1: the legos because all the parents that I know are like,
Speaker 1: I step on one and it breaks my baby time.
Speaker 1: I haven't been. I haven't lego in a minute. I
Speaker 1: have not met in it's quite sometime. In a statement
Speaker 1: in May, the American four Police Department's chief Cameron Paul
Speaker 1: outlined four cases against Ben, which ultimately led to his
Speaker 1: arrest twice and charges against him. Like in March. In
Speaker 1: a video response posted to June first, Schneider accused the
Speaker 1: police of lying and hurting his arm during an arrest.
Speaker 1: In the organ Courts, Crystal Crystal coming back. She's suing
Speaker 1: B and M alleging wrongful termination because remember they were
Speaker 1: supposed to sell. They supposed to buy the business from her,
Speaker 1: and instead they fired her. So now she's sewing so.
Speaker 2: In Utah Courts, B and M are suing Ben and
Speaker 2: Brian Manziel alleging defamation, profiteering, racketeering, and harassment. Alego Rico
Speaker 2: allego rico and racketeering is one of the hardest things
Speaker 2: to define in the scam lexicon.
Speaker 1: Alego rico.
Speaker 5: So.
Speaker 1: In June, B and M announced there on their blog
Speaker 1: that they were permanently closing the Kaiser organ store where
Speaker 1: Brian Manzel originally entered into the consignement agreement. They made
Speaker 1: a mutual agreement in quotes with the franchise owners Brandon
Speaker 1: best And and Joshua Johnson to part ways due to
Speaker 1: a devastating social media campaign. So vn M, their CEO,
Speaker 1: am on he's back. He's become an Internet villain. I
Speaker 1: could I bet Reckless Men's Patreon got immediate content removal
Speaker 1: requests from BNM. Patreon CEO Jack Conte has publicly announced
Speaker 1: that Patreon will not be removing Ben's videos. He's teamed
Speaker 1: Reckless Ben. He's like, we're not taking this shit off.
Speaker 1: It's doing numbers. And I've never seen the Patreon CEO
Speaker 1: speak out a boy anything. So he woppd up for
Speaker 1: being in the Legos again. I maybe I underestimated Legos.
Speaker 1: I ain't know that Legos was a strong I didn't
Speaker 1: know Legos got down like that, right, Legos a little
Speaker 1: bit more real in the game than we thought. And
Speaker 1: there's an online fundraiser set up been and it's raised
Speaker 1: more than five hundred thousand dollars for the Man's els.
Speaker 1: Crystal's own online fund raiser has raised more than ninety
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. They are here running it up. Don't go
Speaker 1: fund me. None of the.
Speaker 2: Allegations have improven in court, and some of the facts
Speaker 2: are disputed by different parties involved.
Speaker 1: Obviously, like.
Speaker 5: This is.
Speaker 1: Okay and all of this. Oh but some god dog
Speaker 1: one lego.
Speaker 2: I chose this episode for you on purpose, now because
Speaker 2: because you hate me, No, because I love you and
Speaker 2: I know that this is a harder one to get through.
Speaker 1: A lot of it's still not making sense to me,
Speaker 1: But I knew that you would be able to handle
Speaker 1: it and that you would be able to lock in
Speaker 1: with me while I just spit a bunch of fucking
Speaker 1: facts at you, and a lot of them I don't
Speaker 1: even understand my damn self. Yeah, I'm listen. I'm tired,
Speaker 1: like my my brain is tired from this. Like what,
Speaker 1: So thank you for going through there with me. We
Speaker 1: built this episode break by brick, back by brick leg
Speaker 1: You better come to with a motherfucking callback. You see
Speaker 1: what I did there. I see what you are and
Speaker 1: I live for it, live for it period period. Oh
Speaker 1: I love you real bad. So I always asked to
Speaker 1: at the end of the show, where would you like
Speaker 1: to be found anything, you want to promote, socials, all
Speaker 1: of that, whatever it is. Yeah, right now, because I
Speaker 1: finished on my headline for the summer, so yeah, the
Speaker 1: airport comes out in the farm. Really excited about that.
Speaker 1: I get they let me be Ryan Cooper on TV
Speaker 1: who So I'm waiting on my season this because at
Speaker 1: least it's like you know, but yeah, I'm so seated.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited. It's gonna be a good time. I'm
Speaker 1: so excited for it. You're brilliant. Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 1: Usually more to such a superstar, it's always more to
Speaker 1: come with you. Don't even worry about that, sweetheart, It's
Speaker 1: always gonna come for you. Listen, thank you. I need
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Speaker 1: Okay, congregations, stay confused. Today we're gonna be confused. But
Speaker 1: sometimes confusion is us figuring something out and then we'll
Speaker 1: move forward with that new information. So I can't even
Speaker 1: give you an episode label on this. I'm very confused,
Speaker 1: but I'm not confused about Mail and I'm not confused
Speaker 1: about her talent. I'm not confused about having a generational
Speaker 1: bad bitch on my show. Grace and me with her presence,
Speaker 1: so y'all just enjoyed that, and then maybe trying to
Speaker 1: figure out this lego story and maybe write me back
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