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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, bad bad, bad, bad boys.

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Speaker 2: Something's going on with Apple, because no hard drive works

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Speaker 2: on any of my computers now. In the past six

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Speaker 2: days when they announced that the new phone was coming out,

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Speaker 2: shit has been fucking up my external hard drive. I

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Speaker 1: And I'm just saying, so, are you saying there's a conspiracy,

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Speaker 1: Donald to make all of your shit not work? Is

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Speaker 1: Tim Cook behind this? Donald?

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Speaker 2: I don't know if Tim Cook is behind this, but

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Speaker 2: I will say this, my wife can't connect to a

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Speaker 2: hard drive all of a sudden, Like I don't know

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Speaker 2: if everybody else is having this problem.

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Speaker 1: In my own mind, I think this might be what's

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Speaker 1: called an anecdotal experience. Donald, you are having a problem,

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Speaker 1: and you have because you also enjoy the cannabis. You

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Speaker 2: I'm asking a question right now, is anyone else having

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Speaker 3: Can?

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Speaker 1: Do you want me to get Tim Cook on the

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Speaker 1: phone because I do a Tim Cook. I do a

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Speaker 1: Tim Cook impression? Can I do a Tim Cook? I

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Speaker 1: do it, Tim.

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Speaker 3: I'm calling him now, hold on.

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Speaker 1: It's similar to the other impression. I do hold Upah,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, Hello Donald, This says Tim Cook.

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Speaker 3: Tim, how'd you know it was me?

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Speaker 1: Because I saw your face come up on my phone?

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Speaker 3: What the fuck is going on with the computers right now? Tim?

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Donald? That's just you? Everybody else is fun?

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Speaker 2: Really, I find that hard to believe. Daniel was having

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Speaker 2: a technical difficulty right before.

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Speaker 3: Now we started.

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Speaker 1: Daniel is a loyal customer. He would never bespirch my name.

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Speaker 3: Tim.

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Speaker 1: All right, Tim, all I got. I can only do

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Speaker 1: that fifteen.

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Speaker 3: That's all I gotta say.

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Speaker 1: You don't want that new phone. There's the I saw online.

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Speaker 1: There's no difference between except for it. I mean, what's different?

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Speaker 3: All the update all the updates came through on the fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Look at look at the tective Wizard saying, there's nothing

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Speaker 2: All the updates came through on the on the fourteen

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Speaker 2: Computer to compute phone. The phone now that exists on

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Speaker 1: Oh that's cool. Yeah, I like to think about being

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Speaker 1: a listening to video voicemail. I like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that now exists on your iPhone.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to wait two weeks, yeah, because they'll.

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Speaker 3: Release about this.

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Speaker 2: How about fuck y'all and not bestowing this information on me.

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Speaker 2: I feel like Joel's going through the same shit that

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Speaker 1: Joel is shaking her head and eating. Sorry Joe, Joelle,

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Speaker 1: in from all over the world to hear your life.

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Speaker 3: You muck bang all you want muck bang, do.

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Speaker 1: Not, Joel. This is not a muck bang podcast.

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Speaker 1: I saw this meme that was funny. It was like,

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Speaker 1: But your wife told me something on FaceTime today. You

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Speaker 2: She told Zach that she's trying to give quality over quantity.

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Speaker 1: And then she goes, she goes, I'm trying to turn

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Speaker 2: She was like, she was like, I might have gone

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Speaker 2: This is the standard of quality. That was some super

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Speaker 1: Just that's hilarious. Listen, I love that. You guys have

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Speaker 3: Let me see her. She's still here.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, such a great doctor and my wife has such.

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Speaker 3: A great vagina. Let me go get her. Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right, play the song. Play the song.

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Speaker 1: Here she comes, Casey, come down here.

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Speaker 6: I don't know nothing about raising these cools, So tell

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Speaker 3: And that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: Donald told the audience that.

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Speaker 3: That you played a song Daniel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Donald. Donald told the audience that y'all had a

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Speaker 7: It was too good, it was it was so good

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Speaker 5: Through the house.

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Speaker 7: Guys, I don't know what to do about this. I

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Speaker 7: think your next guest needs to be like a sex

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Speaker 1: We have a we have a vagina gynecologist specialist college.

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Speaker 5: He wrote the vagina Bible.

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Speaker 1: Literally, we have a gynecologist on today.

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Speaker 8: About sex stuff.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, well, what is she going to tell

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Speaker 3: I have it?

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Speaker 7: Do y'all know what a guynecologist is?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm a I'm a fake doctor, you realize. I

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Speaker 1: think that I think the gynecologist might educate Donald and

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Speaker 1: I on things that women wish men knew, that's what

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Speaker 8: Oh, okay, Well, you know what I think you should

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Speaker 3: Is it a woman?

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Speaker 7: Talk to her about about the woman in her mid

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Speaker 7: forties going through like changes and stuff like. That's one

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Speaker 7: thing that Donald and I he doesn't seem to wrap

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Speaker 7: now with me that are a little different and I

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Speaker 1: You know, that's a good question for her.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Like, I think she needs to like explain to

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Speaker 1: To Donald, Well, do you want her to have an

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Speaker 3: So, I think so.

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Speaker 1: Well, Sexually, is there anything that like, obviously you and

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Speaker 7: Oh god, I wish I understood better.

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Speaker 3: That.

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Speaker 8: I don't eat that.

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Speaker 7: It's more, it's just as much me as him, you

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Speaker 7: and no, wasn't.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't at all. I loved it and I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 7: But I didn't realize, oh, like I can actually take

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Speaker 1: play the song down, play the song, Casey.

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Speaker 6: Come down here. I don't know nothing about raising these schools.

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Speaker 3: So tell me what to do.

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Speaker 6: Don't know nothing about raising these kids, And that's what

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Speaker 6: it is.

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Speaker 3: Spy Woy puts you on no damn spot, woman, I

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Speaker 3: know everything about my bag.

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Speaker 7: Do you need a pen and paper?

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Speaker 3: And paper?

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Speaker 1: That is hilarious. Okay, Donald tons five six.

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Speaker 1: In a welcome, Doctor Gunter, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Are we about to talk about vagina?

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Speaker 1: And I'm excited, Doctor Gunter. We've been really looking forward

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Speaker 8: Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: You wrote a book called the Vagina Bible? Is that correct?

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Speaker 8: Oh, well, on my pleasure.

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Speaker 10: I'm here for all of your vaginal involver needs.

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Speaker 2: I just think it's the amount like when we were younger,

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Speaker 10: I think it would depend on a lot of different things.

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Speaker 8: Would be one, you know, one way to look at it.

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Speaker 10: Another way would be to you know, really find out,

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Speaker 2: It's definitely receptive, Like I do something that is you know,

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Speaker 10: Okay, so right there, we've learned something that maybe you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't like doing that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's.

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Speaker 3: Having a freaking clean.

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Speaker 10: I think we've identified a bit of a problem perhaps

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Speaker 3: I don't think you know what you talk about.

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Speaker 1: But Donald, what's what is so clear? And you have

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Speaker 3: So today I made breakfast the kids before school.

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Speaker 10: Okay, so maybe you could think about doing that every day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she knows that.

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Speaker 2: You know, you know, and it's part of this is

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Speaker 1: Well, she was just in here saying when we told

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Speaker 10: So, I you know, it sounds like you know. I

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Speaker 1: Don't spelled which way has come spelled in that title doctor.

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Speaker 10: The way one would normally spell it. And if in

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, sometimes subtlety works really well.

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Speaker 10: Subtlety, subtlety note note to self. Yes, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got it. I got it. I can say

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Speaker 10: So actually, the most studied therapy that has the best

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Speaker 10: There also are medications. We only recommend them when we've

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Speaker 10: Right, So think about if you were given the same

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Speaker 10: for some of them. We're talking about one or one

446
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 10: extra episode of sex a month, or maybe two extra

447
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,719
Speaker 10: episodes of sex a month right now. Also, these medications

448
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 10: are studied in the context of people who are generally

449
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 10: having sex at least somewhat frequently. And then if we

450
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 10: see people who haven't had sex in a relationship for

451
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,640
Speaker 10: six months or a year, which we sometimes see, how

452
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 10: well do those medications work for those people? And we

453
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 10: don't really know, so I guess my answer is is

454
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 10: a very long way of saying, it's complicated and you

455
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 10: have to consider a lot of factors.

456
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a hard time understanding what do you

457
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:00,479
Speaker 2: mean you don't want to do it?

458
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

459
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 2: I don't understand you know, how can you not feel

460
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:05,880
Speaker 2: the way I feel?

461
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 5: Like?

462
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 3: But that's me as a male.

463
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 2: I think I think that's my own ego and I

464
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 2: think that's my own naivete, like falling into like you

465
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, I don't know. I feel

466
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 2: like in relationships, somebody is always going to be the

467
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 2: one that has way more libido than the other, and

468
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,640
Speaker 2: it fluctuates, you know what I mean?

469
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Speaker 10: Like maybe I mean, I think it's different for lots

470
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 10: of people and I would actually push back and say,

471
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 10: some men actually have more of a receptive libido that

472
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 10: they want to be in a situation where you know

473
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 10: that they feel more maybe desired, or that they need

474
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Speaker 10: to be in that receptive type of situation. And so

475
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Speaker 10: I think when we use sort of patriarchal norms, for example,

476
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 10: we can dismiss lots of people at both ends of

477
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 10: the spectrum. So that again, thank you well, but I

478
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 10: think it's also really good for someone like yourself to say, hey,

479
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 10: maybe I should read one of those books that aimed

480
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 10: at people who have maybe desire issues so I could

481
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 10: learn more about what it's like on the other end,

482
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 10: because that might also be insightful.

483
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Speaker 1: It seems like the most important thing that you're saying

484
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 1: is the communication aspect of it, because these are such

485
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 1: sometimes very uncomfortable topics for couples, and they don't they

486
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about it. It's like they just

487
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 1: sweep it under the rug.

488
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Speaker 10: Well, what I'd like to say is I have definitely

489
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 10: noticed that people have an easier time having sex than

490
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 10: talking about sex, which I think.

491
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Speaker 8: Says a lot about our culture.

492
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Speaker 10: Yeah, And I mean if you think about even just

493
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 10: saying like the words vagina or penis or you know,

494
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 10: vulva clitoris often that makes people like you know, think

495
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 10: twice or makes them giggle. And why should that be

496
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 10: any different than saying the word elbow or knee right,

497
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 10: you know. So I think that a lot of it

498
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 10: is related to sort of our sort of puritanical sort

499
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 10: of threads that run through society, leftover sort of you know,

500
00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 10: damage from the Victorians, you know, all these types of things, evangelicalism,

501
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,959
Speaker 10: there's all these different threads. I think that that create

502
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 10: this as well as the historical power imbalance between between

503
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 10: women and men. And so talking about it is really good.

504
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 10: Talking about it outside of the bedroom, so you're not

505
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 10: kind of weaponizing the bed is also good, you know,

506
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 10: because you know, nobody wants to hear I think after

507
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,959
Speaker 10: you've had sex what it should have been like or

508
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 10: what you would have preferred, right, So you know, some

509
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 10: things like that. And I always say, like, we have

510
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 10: professionals for a reason. There's sex therapists, there's couples counselors,

511
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 10: there's marriage therapists, and you know people also, I think

512
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 10: it also overlaps with our our sort of cultural looking

513
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 10: down on seeking care for mental health issues as well, Right, so,

514
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 10: which is terrible, Like, if you have a problem, why

515
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 10: shouldn't you go talk to an expert? That doesn't you know,

516
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 10: if I have a my car is not working, I'm

517
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 10: going to go to someone who can fix it. If

518
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,239
Speaker 10: I'm having an issue with our relationship, why shouldn't I

519
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 10: talk to someone who can help me with that. It

520
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 10: doesn't mean that you're getting divorced. It doesn't mean that

521
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 10: things are terrible. It means, hey, we want things to

522
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 10: be better. Isn't that a good thing?

523
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so well said. I think communication is everything because,

524
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 1: like you said, people don't this like gets uncomfortable, even

525
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: if it's your your partner, your wife, You just you

526
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 1: don't want to say the wrong thing. You don't want

527
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: to upset them. You don't. And if it's your own

528
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: insecurity about your whatever, whatever you're feeling, you like, don't

529
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: you might feel you know, you might not feel good

530
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 1: about sharing it. So it becomes very cringey for people.

531
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Speaker 1: I think.

532
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I see a lot of women in

533
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 10: their forties, fifties and sixties who want to have a

534
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 10: lot of sex, and you know what their partners, their

535
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 10: male partners have a rectile dysfunction and they won't go

536
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 10: see the doctor.

537
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 1: If you're listening and you're suffering from a rectial dysfunction, please,

538
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: as your fake doctor, please go see someone, because that's

539
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 1: something that's so easily correctible. There's literally a mint now

540
00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: that I've seen advertised that has viagra dors. I don't

541
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: know the combination in it, So you can be out

542
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: on a date with someone and you feel it's going there,

543
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 1: you can pop a mint. So the idea that there's

544
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: men out there who aren't living their full sexual selves

545
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 1: because of having a rectal dysfunction, that seems to me

546
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: like something that's so easily amongst all these problems, that's

547
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: one of the easier ones to solve because of this

548
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: these medicines that have changed the world.

549
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 3: It could also mean that you have an underlying condition

550
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 3: as well.

551
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: And of course I'm saying go to the doctor. I'm

552
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: not saying just pop a mint. I'm saying, go see

553
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: your doctor and talk about it.

554
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 10: Yeah, So I just think it's important that you know

555
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 10: that we do see we see it on both ends

556
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 10: and so you know. And then I'll say to my patient, well,

557
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 10: have you talked with your partner about like going to

558
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 10: the doctor about a rectal dysfunction and they'll say, oh,

559
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 10: I could never bring that up, or I tried to

560
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 10: bring it up and he shut me down. So I

561
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 10: think that, you know, we see it on both ends,

562
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 10: and I think that as you know, as Zach just said,

563
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 10: it's all about communication, and I always thinking of sex

564
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 10: as the ultimate form of communication, right it's a it's

565
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 10: a form of communication. You're communicating pleasure and pleasuring and pleasure,

566
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 10: and so learning how to talk about it is I

567
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 10: think a great way to also enhance your sexual experience

568
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 10: for you know, for a lot of people. It might

569
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 10: not be for some, but you know, just to think

570
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 10: about that as as also a sexual aid.

571
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: And also communicate what you like.

572
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 10: Yeah, absolutely, I mean if you didn't tell somebody what

573
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 10: you what you know? Again, getting back to the dinner analogy, right,

574
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 10: like if you ate the same thing every night and

575
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 10: you pretended you liked it, and you're a vegetarian and

576
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 10: you were served meat every night, you might be like, oh,

577
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 10: not really looking forward to dinner, and how come how

578
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 10: come I don't get a chance to say and how

579
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 10: come I don't get to serve the meal? Sometimes right,

580
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 10: so think about it that way.

581
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: I like that. All right, we're going to take a break,

582
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: and when we come back, if we could ask you

583
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: some questions about the female anatomy that Donald and I

584
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 1: we did the same thing with the urologist, and we

585
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: think we could be educational to people out asking some questions.

586
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 1: You're bat starting starting with the labia. We'll be right back.

587
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: Donald and I stumbled across the fact that we call

588
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 1: we refer to as a society to the women's genitalia

589
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: as the vagina. But what men and women, what everyone

590
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: is looking at is the labia majora? Uh correct or

591
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: or is that just go on? Sorry?

592
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 8: Okay, well you're looking at the vulva.

593
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 10: So the labia majora is part of the vulva, right,

594
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 10: so if you thought, you know, so that's the labia majora,

595
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 10: the larger lips, and they are in many people the

596
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 10: most prominent part of the volva what you might see,

597
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 10: but that can also change, you know, based on age

598
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 10: and also individual features. Right, you know, we all are

599
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 10: shaped differently. If you look at ears, right, everybody's got

600
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 10: different shaped ears or noses. So so yeah, so the

601
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 10: labia manora, the mons is just above the labia minora

602
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 10: are the inner lips and all together that encompasses the vulva.

603
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: Right now, the labia minora you started hinted at this,

604
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: but depending on the woman, Just like penises come in

605
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: so many different shapes and sizes, the relationship between them

606
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: labia minora and majora can be completely different, just depending

607
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: on who you are, just like ears.

608
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 10: Like you said, absolutely so, some people have smaller labia

609
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,239
Speaker 10: minora that aren't necessarily visible if you're just looking at

610
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 10: the vulva, and other people have larger ones. And that's great,

611
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 10: and there's all variations in between. And wouldn't that be

612
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 10: awful if we all look the same everywhere?

613
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 8: Right?

614
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 10: So, yeah, so there's different shapes and sizes and that's

615
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 10: a wonderful thing.

616
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: Donald, do you have labia minora questions?

617
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 3: No?

618
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: Do you want to make a joke about how it

619
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: sounds like the minora from Hanukkah?

620
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 3: No? I don't. I think that's a joke that only

621
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 3: you can make.

622
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: Okay, think of a good manora, the labia minora. Think

623
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: about that sex toy. We could make doctor, we could

624
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: go on Shark Tank and make a fortune. I don't

625
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: know how it operates, but it's a labia minora right

626
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: all with your.

627
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 3: Thoughts that only comes out doing honkah.

628
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, you for sale only on Honukkah. And we'll have

629
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: to figure out exactly how it operates. But it's it's

630
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: can you imagine, hey, sharks, I'm Donald Faison.

631
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 2: No, I cannot imagine this already. We've started it started

632
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 2: off bad. It's all pretty started off bad.

633
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 10: And that's a great double entendre in there. You can't

634
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 10: figure out how it works?

635
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: I know exactly, that's funny.

636
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 3: How does it work? Doc? Let's just be honest, how

637
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 3: does it work?

638
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 5: Like?

639
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 2: What are we doing wrong as men that they say

640
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 2: that a woman could make herself have an orgasm in however,

641
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: like less than a minute or two minutes if woman

642
00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 2: could do it, and it'll take a guy sometimes to

643
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: get the woman to orgasm. It could take the whole

644
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: sex or after sex or never.

645
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 3: Or you know what I mean? Like, what are we

646
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 3: doing wrong?

647
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: You know? What is it? What is it? I'm going

648
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: to just tail on to Donald's question and say, what

649
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: is it that you think women would would like men

650
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: to know that not all men know about making her

651
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: have an orgasm?

652
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 10: Well, I don't think I can answer that question in

653
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 10: a sort of a tidy, little one sentence.

654
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 8: So take your.

655
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: Time, take the rest of the podcast, doctor, this is

656
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: yours doctor. Yes, doctor, in fact, take the all the

657
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: rest of the season and answer this if that's if

658
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: that's what you need.

659
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 8: So it depends.

660
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 10: It depends what somebody likes. It depends how somebody's feeling

661
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 10: in the moment. You know, for a lot of women,

662
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 10: there can be so much pressure about did you orgasm,

663
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 10: did you come?

664
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Speaker 8: Did you come? Did you come?

665
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 7: Then?

666
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 10: You know what, that takes somebody out of the moment

667
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 10: and it should really, you know, And it also depends

668
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 10: what somebody likes. So there might be somebody who who

669
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 10: loves to have, you know, very quick sex with somebody

670
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 10: they know exactly what they want to do, maybe they

671
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 10: don't even want to know that person's name, right, And

672
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 10: then there's people who want to have hours of you know,

673
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 10: build up and foreplay beforehand, and then there's everything in between.

674
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 10: And you know what, for the say, for this one person,

675
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 10: that might encompass the whole spectrum, or it may be

676
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 10: different at different phases in their life. So instead of

677
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 10: focusing on what brings about an orgasm. The better question

678
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 10: is what gives you pleasure? Right, and then to start

679
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 10: from there, what do you like? Having a conversation asking

680
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 10: someone can you show me? You know, it shouldn't be

681
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 10: a performance. I mean again, different people like different things,

682
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 10: and different people also have kinks. So I don't want

683
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 10: to I don't want to exclude people from sort of

684
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 10: the totality of the discussion, but start to ask somebody

685
00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 10: what they like, what brings them pleasure, and to use

686
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 10: that as a launching pad, because at.

687
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 2: The end of the day, everybody wants to just have

688
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 2: good sex. When we do have sex, nobody just wants

689
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: to get it over with. And so my wife is right,

690
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: quality is so much better than quantity. Quality is like

691
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 2: quality has turned the sex that we have now where

692
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: when she is eager and ready to do it, I'm like,

693
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: I can't wait because I can remember what happened last.

694
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 3: Time, and that's the turn on for me, you know

695
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 3: what I mean?

696
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: Like I love the fact that she's now comfortable enough

697
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: to say this is what I.

698
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 3: Want to do. I don't want to do, you know

699
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 3: what I mean?

700
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 2: Like, for a really long time, I was very dominant

701
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: in our sex life, and then she said, Yo, chill

702
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: the fuck out. And I'm learning to do that now,

703
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 2: and it's very difficult, but I'm learning.

704
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 3: And I don't know. Quality is definitely better than quantity.

705
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: I know that it sounds like what you're saying is

706
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: what the doctor's saying. Is that every correct me if

707
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,719
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. Every single person's different. It's like the Kinsey story,

708
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: and like everyone's different falls somewhere on the spectrum of sexuality.

709
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: What everyone has. We're like butterflies. Every single person is

710
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: unique to what turns them on and what gets them off,

711
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: and so you don't find out without good communication. And

712
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: I think I think a lot of men, perhaps I'm

713
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: gonna just say a sweeping stereotype, perhaps don't necessarily ask.

714
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: They just kind of do instead of finding a way

715
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: to engage in a conversation.

716
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 3: I say, a lot of people period.

717
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 10: I think, yeah, I think that's really common. I mean,

718
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 10: if you think about in our society, where do people

719
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 10: learn about sex, And, as I mentioned earlier, you know,

720
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 10: they learn about it from movies, they learn about it

721
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 10: from friends. Think about how the dismal state of sex

722
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 10: education is in the country, and a lot of it's

723
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 10: not sex education it's how to not get pregnant. Education

724
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 10: and slug shaming, right like, That's basically what it is.

725
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 10: And so you know, if you don't even know how

726
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 10: your body works then and nobody's going to tell you,

727
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 10: then you know, you know, it can lead to all

728
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 10: these you know, not necessarily we can lead to problems,

729
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 10: but it can also lead to people not having fulfilling

730
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 10: sex lives because they were never educated and they din'tven

731
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 10: know to ask because there's so much shame about it,

732
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 10: and so, you know, I think, you know, in general,

733
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 10: the cornerstone for a lot of people for good sexual

734
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 10: and this is again a large generalization is education and

735
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 10: communication and obviously that means different things to different people.

736
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 10: Knowing what what I like is going to be different

737
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 10: from what you like, from what from what other people like,

738
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 10: and being able to, you know, if you're in a

739
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 10: couple ship to talk about that, and if you're not

740
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,439
Speaker 10: in a couple ship, to figure out how you want

741
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 10: that to work for you. And so I think we

742
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 10: kind of have to be open minded about it. Understand

743
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 10: there is a huge spectrum and that if people want

744
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 10: to make things work together in a long term coupleship,

745
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 10: probably a lot of communication is going to be needed.

746
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 2: It's interesting that you say that I'm about to we're

747
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: going to end this part of the conversation because you

748
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 2: guys are going to want to talk about it after this.

749
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 2: But it seems like as a society, we're going backwards

750
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 2: and not forwards when it comes to conversations about sex.

751
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 2: It seems like, you know, when these new conversations come up,

752
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 2: there's so many politicians and so many people out there

753
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 2: who are like, no, no, oh, well, I don't want

754
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: to talk about that. In matter of fact, let's not

755
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 2: talk about that at all. Let's just sweep it under

756
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 2: the rug and forget that it exists, and it's happening

757
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 2: with history, and it's happening with sexuality as well.

758
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 10: You know, when we think about politics in this country,

759
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 10: we think about the fact that half the population, or

760
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 10: you know, the half that's sexually active with men, needs

761
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 10: contraception to have the kind of sex that they want

762
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 10: to have, right otherwise they're you know, at risk for

763
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 10: you know, poverty, for generational poverty, right for not being

764
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 10: able to get the education they want to be able

765
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 10: to have the jobs that they want. And so this

766
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 10: country has really weaponized sexuality in a very unique way

767
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 10: for women. And if you think about the fact that

768
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 10: it's fifty percent of the population that have to bear

769
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 10: the physical burdens of reproducing society, and yet we have

770
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 10: it's harder to get health care for women. They can't

771
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 10: get they can't get the contraception that they want if

772
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 10: they are pregnant, they can't get an abortion if they

773
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 10: want it, if they're having severe maternal complications during pregnancy.

774
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 10: So many labor and delivery rooms are closing. They can't

775
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 10: the care we want, never mind the more maternal mortality

776
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 10: in this country, especially for black women. Right, we have

777
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 10: all of these problems, and I would argue that they

778
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 10: are all tied up with sex and sexuality, and so

779
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 10: to have this discussion without including the broader sort of

780
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 10: political aspects, you're sort.

781
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 8: Of perpetuating the problem.

782
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 10: It's a difficult line to walk because you have to

783
00:37:54,320 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 10: walk being medically correct, right, right versus you know, versus

784
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 10: is how do you get people to the table to

785
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,919
Speaker 10: have that conversation. And so it's there's a reason I'm

786
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 10: not a politician.

787
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, doctor, what is something you think women wish

788
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: men knew that they don't know? I mean, there's been

789
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: jokes in movies and TV shows about finding the clytorus

790
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: and and uh and knowing how to please a woman.

791
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: Of course, we've seen that our whole lives. But outside

792
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: of just necessarily something sexual. We asked Casey, she was

793
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: saying she wishes what did she say? She wishes men

794
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 1: knew more about uh? She said, Actually, she said she.

795
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 3: Wished she knew when she was younger.

796
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 1: When she was younger, that it wasn't solely about pleasing

797
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: the man, that that that she also had to find

798
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: a way to find pleasure herself.

799
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 3: Right.

800
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 2: She said, when she was younger, she would be all

801
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: right if the person orgasmed and she didn't.

802
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: She was fine with that. It was okay, that's fine.

803
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 2: But now as now that she knows herself, she knows

804
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: when she wants to organs and when she doesn't want

805
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: to orgasm, she knows she you know, if she if

806
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 2: she wants to have an orgasm during sex, she's going

807
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 2: to have an orgasm during sex if she doesn't want

808
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 2: to and want and doesn't want to have sex. But

809
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, men, I don't know. I wish she

810
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 2: was here, but she's going to let's take a break.

811
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after these fine words. Tell us

812
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: all about in any area where you think that men

813
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: in your experience can be more enlightened.

814
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 10: Well, I think a broad topic. I think men could

815
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 10: be more enlightened about the burdens of having a uterus

816
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 10: and ovaries and the china and what all of that entails, right,

817
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 10: the burden of menstruation, the burden of pregnancy, the burden

818
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 10: of ovulating every month, and what it's like to have

819
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 10: your whole reproductive track rewired kind of every sort of

820
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 10: twenty four to thirty five days and all of those

821
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 10: issues go along with it, right, so that that so

822
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 10: many times, you know, women suffer with mestr cramps, or

823
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 10: they may get a condition like endometriosis not diagnosed because

824
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 10: they're dismissed. Uh, they may you know, have very heavy periods,

825
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 10: don't get taken care of that that all of these

826
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 10: things are can be a health issue for some people,

827
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 10: and I think it would be I think good to

828
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 10: have more recognition of that, to understand about those burdens.

829
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 10: But you know, I think what women want to obviously,

830
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 10: you know, we're not a monolith, and so everybody wants

831
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 10: I think a lot of people want different things. I

832
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 10: think that agency. I think a lot of people just

833
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 10: want agency, the ability to say I want something or

834
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 10: don't want something, the ability not to be judged for

835
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 10: saying you want something. If you want to have if

836
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 10: you want to go out and have sex with somebody

837
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 10: you met at a party and that works for you,

838
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 10: why should you be judged for that right? If you

839
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 10: also want to, you know, marry your high school sweetheart,

840
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 10: why should you be judged for that right? So the

841
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 10: agency to sort of make the wide scope of decisions

842
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 10: about your sexuality that men have enjoyed since the beginning

843
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 10: of time.

844
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: That's so well said.

845
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: We had we had a couple on that where the

846
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: woman was having extramarital.

847
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: Sex with his best friend.

848
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 2: With his best friend, and at first we were like,

849
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: so not freaked out, but it was. It was surprising

850
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 2: to us, But at the end of the day, it

851
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 2: was like, well, who are we to judge them for

852
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 2: being this way?

853
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: It wasn't an affair. It was that she had permission

854
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: from her husband to once a week sleep with his

855
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: best friend. And Donald and I were very shocked by

856
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: the story. But it's a perfect example of what you're

857
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: saying everyone's everyone's consenting, it's all fine, they're happy, you know,

858
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: to each their own, right.

859
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 8: Yeah.

860
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 10: I think if everybody has agency and the relationship right,

861
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 10: that it's not something forced upon one person. And that's

862
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 10: what gets back again to communication, right, And and so

863
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 10: I think that different things work for different people. And

864
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 10: I think now we're especially with social media, where we're

865
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 10: getting more exposure, I think two different things.

866
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 3: Now.

867
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 10: Obviously not everything you see on social media is also true,

868
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 10: but you know what I'm saying, you're getting a more

869
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 10: I would say, a bigger slice of maybe perhaps what's

870
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 10: happening in the population than you would see in conventional

871
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 10: you know, television shows and especially things that have to

872
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 10: pass sensors, right and in censor and I don't.

873
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 2: Know, there are shows like Euphoria that freak everybody out,

874
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 2: Like Zach, don't you love Euphoria?

875
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: I think Euphoria is really well done. Yeah, incredible parent.

876
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 3: As a parent, that's it scares me because that is

877
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 3: but as.

878
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 2: A but I want to be informed of what is

879
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 2: on the future, in the future for my children.

880
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think your children necessarily have to

881
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: live a life like the kids in Euphoria.

882
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 2: Do you remember what your partying life was like when

883
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 2: you were in high school?

884
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: Well, wasn't euphoria? I can tell you that.

885
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: Okay, Well mind, mine was similar in all of the

886
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 2: drugs and stuff like, like we weren't. I have a

887
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 2: lot of friends that died from overdosing and stuff like

888
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 2: that in real life. And I have a lot of

889
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 2: friends that were, you know, discovering who they were and

890
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: how I went to a school where you know, arts,

891
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 2: and you know how artistic people are when it comes

892
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 2: to discovering themselves, and we had some crazy parties.

893
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 10: Well, so I use that kind of stuffs as a watis.

894
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 10: I have twenty year old twin boys and I you know,

895
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 10: when Euphoria came out, they were watching it like everybody else.

896
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 10: And I was like, Hey, we should be talking about

897
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 10: you guys caring in our can right and when you

898
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 10: would use that and how you would have it, And

899
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 10: let's go get some from the pharmacy. Because you're in California,

900
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 10: you can do that. And let's when you go off

901
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 10: to college, let's take some extra ones with you so

902
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 10: you can keep it in your dorm and you can

903
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 10: pass it out to friends and you can talk about that,

904
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 10: because again, you know, not talking about that can can

905
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 10: actually lead to someone losing their life.

906
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: I got to tell you as a side note, I

907
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: had to be in the er in New York to

908
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: help a friend who had something happened in the person's fine.

909
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: But during the few hours that I was there, you

910
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: know the word that I heard the most narcan. It

911
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 1: was just so emblematic of this country right now that

912
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: like I heard narkan like fifteen times. I was in

913
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: the er for a couple hours.

914
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 10: So I would reframe that as actually not. I mean,

915
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 10: obviously hearing it in the er means all these people

916
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 10: have come in with overdoses and.

917
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 8: That's a tragedy.

918
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 10: But the message I would like for people listening to

919
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 10: hear about is the word narcan on the street is

920
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 10: a success because that means you've had a chance to

921
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 10: help somebody and save their life, right, and that you know,

922
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 10: maybe that is going to help them down the road.

923
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 10: Obviously saving their life is going to help them down

924
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 10: the road, but you never know when that intervention might

925
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 10: help lead to safer drug use right or set them

926
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 10: down a different path.

927
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: So I I just for you, it's just scary because

928
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: of the whole oxy and fentyl.

929
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 8: It's terrible.

930
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 10: And you know, I have very you know, I have

931
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 10: very very frank discussions with my kids about you know,

932
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 10: it's not just the fact that you might be getting

933
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 10: fentanyl or something like that. You have no idea what

934
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 10: else could be in some of these pills, right, what

935
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 10: kind of designers steroid like other kinds of.

936
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 8: Stuff that that we don't know about. So it's just important.

937
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: So do your boys carry narcan on them?

938
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 10: Well, I'm pretty sure one does because I have one

939
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 10: who's very like, uh little community activist and and so

940
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 10: he's that's his thing. The other one, you know, is

941
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 10: h is in on Friday night studying, So there's a

942
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 10: there's a sort of a different range there. But they

943
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 10: both have it, and they both have access to it,

944
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 10: and I made them both keep it in their dorms,

945
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 10: like next to the IBU prosos.

946
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: I should get some. I should get some. Just you know,

947
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:51,959
Speaker 1: I feel like if you if it's available in your state,

948
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: you just have in your house like you would have

949
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: a band aid, because yes, hell, you.

950
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 3: Never know who's at your house and what they're doing

951
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 3: in your bath.

952
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: You save their life, you ever.

953
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 8: Know, Man, yeah, keep it in your car, keep it

954
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 8: you know.

955
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: Just can you look up what states? Can you buy

956
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 1: it over the counter? Joelle? Do you have any questions

957
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 1: for the doctor? You're you're a resident woman, do anything.

958
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:14,439
Speaker 1: We're not asking here.

959
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 3: Have we embarrassed you enough? Joelle?

960
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: Are you ashamed?

961
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 5: Don't feel embarrassed. No, I'm not ashamed, although I think

962
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 5: that might be a really interesting thing to talk about.

963
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 5: The thing, you know, a lot of our listeners are dudes,

964
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 5: and a lot of these dudes have children who have vaginas,

965
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 5: and maybe they don't know anything about them. And I

966
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 5: was curious, and there's like a lot of you guys

967
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 5: were talking about stigma earlier then I think, like you know,

968
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 5: as a kid growing up, and especially for you, I

969
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 5: grew up in rural Illinois, so our sex education was

970
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 5: non existent, and there was like so many questions we had,

971
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 5: like and one they came up a lot like in schools,

972
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 5: like what should a vagina smell like?

973
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:02,720
Speaker 10: M So I always find it interesting that nobody asks

974
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 10: what a penis or balls should smell like.

975
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 2: Right, it's not like mine, musty, it's not like mine

976
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 2: and musty.

977
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 10: So I would always I always sort of bring that like,

978
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 10: why why are we so fixated on how a vagina

979
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 10: smells and not fixated on how the other half the

980
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 10: population smells? Right? So I just put that out right there,

981
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 10: and so I actually, you know, would recommend that anybody

982
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 10: who has children read the Vagina Bible so they can

983
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 10: actually learn all about what's normal, what are the health

984
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 10: conditions that could come along. I've had several single dads

985
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 10: reach out to me and tell me that they bought

986
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 10: the Vagina Bible and redd it so they could actually,

987
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 10: you know, know, mores for their daughters. Because you know,

988
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 10: if you don't have the parts, you don't really know.

989
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 10: I mean you might, but you know, I'm just saying

990
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 10: you're you're less likely to have an intimate you know,

991
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 10: knowledge of the sort of the medical aspects of it, right,

992
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 10: So to get educated and you know, to think that

993
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 10: anytime someone's worried about how a vagina smells, I want

994
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 10: you to think of I want you to everybody, to

995
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 10: to anybody who's listening, all the dudes, I want you

996
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 10: to go to Walgreens or CBS, and I want you

997
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 10: to look at the shelves and shelves and shelves of

998
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 10: products designed to make a volva or vagina smell better.

999
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 10: And then I want you to find me all the

1000
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 10: products that are designed to make a penis and balls

1001
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 10: smell better, because obviously there isn't.

1002
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 1: And I wish that the cartoon company would animate this segment.

1003
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: This is a really good area ahead because.

1004
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 10: If you were if you were an alien and you

1005
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 10: were dropped in a Walgreens or a CBS, you would

1006
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 10: think that vaginas are gross and disgusting. That would be

1007
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 10: that would be your take home, because that's what society

1008
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 10: wants you to think. That's how people make money. This

1009
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 10: is a massive industry. We're telling women that they need

1010
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 10: to use wipes after they go to the bathroom. What

1011
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 10: like men can wipe themselves but women can't.

1012
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 3: What do I do wipe my balls out in my shift?

1013
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 3: I can't contect it smelling okay, well nothing. I try

1014
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 3: to keep it smelling like nothing.

1015
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: Well, it probably smells like the wipes, like some sort

1016
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: of like ivory.

1017
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 10: So my point is is that we have this whole

1018
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 10: societal belief that vaginas are gross, right, and so when

1019
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 10: people and and that is you know, kind of a

1020
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 10: patriarchal tenant that how do we how do we oppress

1021
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,439
Speaker 10: half the population by telling them that their very biology

1022
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 10: is problematic? And so I just think it's always important

1023
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 10: to push back on that.

1024
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: And okay, but just I hear you. But just so

1025
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: we can answer Joelle's question, let's say you're a single dad.

1026
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: Let's say you're or are you just a dad who

1027
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: wants to be educated? We don't know. I don't know

1028
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: what is required of a woman so that she keeps

1029
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 1: a help not just you know, a healthy system going,

1030
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 1: because I remember someone telling me that, you know, doing

1031
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: too much to your to your genitalia as a woman

1032
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: can can throw the whole pH balance off and make

1033
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: it bad.

1034
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 10: So just so, the vagina and is like a self

1035
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 10: cleaning oven. You don't need to do anything. It has evolved.

1036
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 10: It is an evolutionary marvel to take care of itself.

1037
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 10: It has all kinds of defense mechanisms and built in

1038
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 10: systems to you know, to keep it functioning well. And

1039
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 10: just like a self cleaning oven, if you start doing

1040
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 10: things to it to clean it, you can actually damage it.

1041
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 10: And so you don't need actually any care for the

1042
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 10: vagina which is inside. If you have an itch, if

1043
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 10: you if you notice an odor, that seems different to you.

1044
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 10: If you notice a discharge that's different, then yes you

1045
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 10: should see a healthcare provider. From a volvers standpoint, you

1046
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 10: should treat it like all your you know, all your

1047
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 10: skin and sensitive areas. I mean your face as well,

1048
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 10: that tends to be more sensitive skin. You want to

1049
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 10: use a cleanser, not a soap. Soap dries your skin,

1050
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 10: so cleansers are best, and apart from that, like that's

1051
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 10: you know, but if you just want to use water,

1052
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 10: that's also fine too. And using things like wipes will

1053
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 10: irritate the skin. You do not need to use any

1054
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 10: special feminine product. None of them are studied in any

1055
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 10: meaningful way, and most of them end up causing irritation.

1056
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 8: And that's really it. That's that's the Cole's notes, right, I.

1057
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: Can tell you is someone with a scrotum, it's not

1058
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: that simple. You have to to soap it up, gotta

1059
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: get in there with soap.

1060
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 10: Donald, Well, all I can tell you is I only

1061
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 10: have an amateur interest in men, not a professional one.

1062
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 3: And I appreciate I appreciate your amateur interest.

1063
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: I can just think of Donald's just declaring that his

1064
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: balls are musty and uh poor case they get Musty.

1065
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie when I I work out, and

1066
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna Okay, so, but.

1067
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: When you're about to have sex with Casey and you've

1068
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 1: had Musty has.

1069
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 3: Dissed me so many times, you.

1070
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 2: Go and say, let me just reapgnize the smell of

1071
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 2: my downtown area so many times to make me feel

1072
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 2: like shit.

1073
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 3: She'll say shit, like damn baby, wash that ship, Like.

1074
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: Why don't you why don't you do that? If you

1075
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 1: know you have a shot, You've on the dishes, she's

1076
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: turned on. Why don't you run to the shower and

1077
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: clean clean your mess up?

1078
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 2: Because I, like doctor Gunter, believe that it will.

1079
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: Doctor Gunter to not say that your goal will self clean.

1080
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 8: I was only talking about volvs and vaginas.

1081
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: But Donald misunderstood.

1082
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 3: Donald miss understood, got it, got it, got it. I

1083
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 3: thought we were in the universal conversation at Donald.

1084
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 1: Let me help you. The scrotum is not a self

1085
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: cleaning of in Donald.

1086
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 10: But I'll tell you there's a there's a really interesting

1087
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 10: study that was done a little while back, and I

1088
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 10: hope I'm quoting it correctly. But you know, when when

1089
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,720
Speaker 10: people have sex, you know there's Obviously there's fluids, and

1090
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 10: there might be farting, and there's all kinds of stuff

1091
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 10: that happens that we would normally, you know, maybe be

1092
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 10: a little bit like, oh, that's kind of gross about.

1093
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 10: And when people are sexually excited, they are a level

1094
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 10: of their ability to tolerate disgusting things actually increases.

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, the population of people that will eat somebody's

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Speaker 2: asshole the first time they meet them, without wipes or anything.

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Speaker 2: But then we'll turn around and tell you that you

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Speaker 2: do not have the right to do what you want

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Speaker 2: to do with your body. So I know exactly what

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Speaker 2: you're talking about when it comes to that, all those

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Speaker 2: people out there that will do that and then all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden tell me I'm nasty because.

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Speaker 3: I like something.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well on that night, let's take a break.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back after these fine words, Daniel, Do

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Speaker 1: you have any questions? You want to make sure everyone

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Speaker 1: has a fair chance down You're a very handsome man.

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Speaker 1: You've been with a woman for a long time. Is

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Speaker 1: there anything you want to you ask the doctor that

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Speaker 1: you might share next time you're twitching or muck banging.

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Speaker 4: It's very kind of you. I appreciate the kind words.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I have any questions as much

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Speaker 4: as I just want to celebrate the doctors. I think

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Speaker 4: awesome perspective of conversation and communication being the root of

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Speaker 4: all of these things. You also sound like the coolest

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00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 4: mom ever, being like, now, let's get you kids some

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Speaker 4: b can. What a great thing. I also put in

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Speaker 4: the chat that Narcan is legal to buy over the

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Speaker 4: counter in every state, which is wonderful. Is approved by

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Speaker 4: the FDA in March.

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Speaker 1: So that's where you go. If you're listening and you

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Speaker 1: live in the United States, you can buy narcan and

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Speaker 1: have it in your house for emergencies in any state.

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Speaker 3: You might save somebody's life.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. But yeah, just I really appreciate that communication

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Speaker 4: is the root of all of these things because so

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Speaker 4: much of our country's opinion on sex and drugs and alcohol,

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Speaker 4: I mean, any sort of vice or whatever is solely

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Speaker 4: rooted and I refuse to have the conversation right and.

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Speaker 10: I would, yeah, thank you, And I just wanted to sorry,

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Speaker 10: I'm going to cut you off, but I just wanted

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Speaker 10: to say that judgment never helps any conversation move forward.

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Speaker 1: Boom, What a what a phrase to end on judgment

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00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 1: never helps any conversation move forward.

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Speaker 4: Love that.

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Speaker 1: All right, doctor, Thank you someone for your time. Also,

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Speaker 1: plug your podcast for everybody because we know you have

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Speaker 1: a popular podcast.

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Speaker 10: Well I did, but we couldn't get funding for future seasons.

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Speaker 8: So yeah, I did have.

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Speaker 1: A go oh well, plug the I listened to some episodes,

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Speaker 1: So plug this show that you that is available, the

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Speaker 1: ones you did do.

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Speaker 8: So yeah.

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00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 10: I did a podcast with the Ted Audio collective all

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00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 10: about your body called body Stuff, and I got to

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00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 10: talk to amazing experts all around the world. We talked

1148
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Speaker 10: about the history of why we believe things about our

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00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 10: body and also to experts to put that history into perspective.

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Speaker 10: And it was wonderful and unfortunately, you know, as a

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Speaker 10: fact check, science based fun podcast, just didn't seem to

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Speaker 10: attract advertisers.

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Speaker 1: So that's the episodes are up there and you listen

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Speaker 1: to them.

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Speaker 8: There are there's two seasons, and.

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Speaker 1: I listened to a bunch and got educated. And also,

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Speaker 1: I hope you'll come back on our show. We are

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Speaker 1: lucky enough.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to plug your book? Also?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, China Bible.

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Speaker 10: So I have the Vagina Bible, which came out in

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Speaker 10: twenty nineteen. I also have the Menopause Manifesto, which is

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Speaker 10: all about out metopause obviously, and then I have a

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Speaker 10: new book coming out in January January twenty third called

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Speaker 10: Blood and it's the science, medicine and mythology of menstruation.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Well, I just think you're so wise and we

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Speaker 1: really appreciate you. I hope you'll come back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope. I didn't freaking turn you off from

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00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 3: coming back.

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Speaker 8: No I have.

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Speaker 10: I'm more than happy to come back. And I just

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Speaker 10: have to tell you guys, you know, Scrubbs was such

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00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,240
Speaker 10: a fantastic show for me to see as a doctor,

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00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 10: and I will echo every other doctor's sentiment that is

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00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 10: the most accurate medical show that has ever existed.

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Speaker 8: So thank you, guys, Thank.

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Speaker 1: You, and we just want to you know, it's you know,

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00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: we're mostly a comedy podcast, but I think Donald and

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00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: I both feel like, in the spirit of being fake doctors,

1180
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: let's let's take the opportunity when we can because we

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00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: have so many people listening to share some interesting medical

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00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 1: tips and advice and education for people. So thank you

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00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 1: so much.

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Speaker 8: Well, thank you for having me. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 8: I love to come back anytime.

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Speaker 2: And we'd love to talk about penises and vaginas on

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Speaker 2: this so you fit in perfectly.

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Speaker 1: Yes, thank you, Doctor Gunter, thank you.

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Speaker 3: All right, we should take a break. Broad it right.

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Speaker 1: Donald, You're right. All this vagina talk has made us

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00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: need a break. We'll be right back and we're ba.

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Speaker 1: We're back, We're back, We're back, and listen. This segment

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Speaker 1: our last episode, someone asked if someone Bill knew from

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Speaker 1: his high school days was an inspiration for doctor Kim,

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Speaker 1: played by Elizabeth Banks. Well, now we finally have an

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Speaker 1: answer for Bill, so here it is.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Donald, Hey Daniel, Hey Joel.

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Speaker 4: It's cool to you guys, Zach, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Look Kim Briggs.

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Speaker 11: Everybody had a crush on Kim Robinson in high school,

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Speaker 11: so it makes sense. Checks, but my high school girlfriend

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Speaker 11: in high school, my high school girlfriend in high school

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Speaker 11: is a horrible sentence. She was named Sarah Briggs, and

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Speaker 11: I think she dumped me about six or seven times

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Speaker 11: over three years also checks out. But Kim Briggs was

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Speaker 11: based on Sarah Briggs and Kim Robinson will have to

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Speaker 11: be in a future show. That's all I'm saying. I

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Speaker 11: want to bust somebody's mom's story. Yeah, but just tell this.

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Speaker 11: There were lots of Kim Robinson crushes floating around.

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Speaker 2: So Kim, you definitely did well in high school as

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Speaker 2: far as the crushes go.

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Speaker 3: It just wasn't Bill Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, that's a happy ending to the story. Thanks

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Speaker 1: home Internet. Thank you everybody for tuning in, Joelle. What

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Speaker 1: else do we have to tell everyone anything?

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Speaker 5: Uh No, I mean other than you know, feel free

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00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 5: to DMA's messages about what kind of specialist you'd like

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00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 5: to see on the show. Who are you? And we're

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Speaker 5: doing sort of like a sex tober thing or.

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Speaker 1: We're doing Sextober. We should have we should definitely have

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Speaker 1: a sex therapist, Joelle, because I love the gynecologist. Said, hey,

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Speaker 1: this is the end of my specialty, but you should

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Speaker 1: have a sex therapist to and I think that would

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Speaker 1: be very helpful to us.

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Speaker 2: I agree when she said that. I got very excited

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Speaker 2: when you and you said Joel book a sex therapist.

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Speaker 3: In my mind, I was like, first of all, free

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Speaker 3: sex therapy.

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Speaker 1: Session. It's not I want that. I want you and

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Speaker 1: the audience to all know that this is not. So

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Speaker 1: you can have a personal session with the second.

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Speaker 3: Oh, we'll give you.

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Speaker 1: We'll give you minutes. We'll give on their number and

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Speaker 1: you can hire them privately for a private session.

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Speaker 3: Can we get like ten minutes?

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Speaker 1: Just I know why you showing like on the zoom,

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Speaker 1: like like what should I do when I'm in this position?

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Speaker 3: Oh? I didn't know that that's what sex therapy was.

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Speaker 1: I think it can be anything related to inner gors.

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Speaker 1: You can be like how do I do X Y

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Speaker 1: or Z or what does this position do?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to have a sex therapist on. Let

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Speaker 3: me ask a question.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little nervous when I was when I was younger.

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Speaker 2: I dated a girl who was like, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: be a sex therapist when I was When I get older,

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Speaker 2: and in my mind, I was like, well, what the

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Speaker 2: fuck does that entail? What do you have to do

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Speaker 2: when you are a sex therapist?

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Speaker 3: And so I'm very I don't think you do well.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Joelle, do you know if they're if

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Speaker 1: there if there's versions. I don't think they touch the person,

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Speaker 1: They just coach them.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: A license to sex therapist is mostly, to the best

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Speaker 5: of my knowledge, listening to you and giving advice. There

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Speaker 5: are other types of sex therapies where someone might be

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Speaker 5: appropriate ways to help.

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Speaker 3: It's not Do you think there's appropriate Do you think

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Speaker 3: there's somebody Do.

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Speaker 1: You think there's a doctor who's like and then try

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Speaker 1: this can forefingers? Now, now, Carl just gently put the

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Speaker 1: thumb on the booty, like, do you think.

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Speaker 5: It would surprise me? We talked about having a tantrik

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Speaker 5: yoga person. We talked about having.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's have a person. Oh, I feel bad for

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Speaker 1: Casey if we have, because there's no way.

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Speaker 3: Casey is gonna let me bang and be like, no mistake.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, you're wild.

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Speaker 1: I think Dane is a bit more than and then

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Speaker 1: saying but I don't know much.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: That's what Sting used to do. Right, do you have

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Speaker 1: sex for like twenty four hours.

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Speaker 2: Stay all right, I think that's a good note to

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Speaker 2: wrap up the show.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll see you next time. This is Zach

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Speaker 1: and Donald's coming at you live.

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Speaker 9: That show we made about a bunch of talks and

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01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 9: nurses in Jana. I said, here's the stories next.

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Speaker 3: All should know.

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Speaker 9: So Gada round you here, up, Gada, round you here up.

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Speaker 3: Sweet for me, wat show me is Zach