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Speaker 1: Hello, I'm Scott Sashman and I'm Michael Barr Sans Evan

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Speaker 1: Nobi Williams. We're here with Bremberg Business of Sports podcast.

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Speaker 1: Where he's like it was in months? Where was the

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Speaker 1: last time Boise or where where he's somewhere four hours

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Speaker 1: north of Toronto. Uh canoeing trip, the annual canoeing trip

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Speaker 1: where you know they hauld a fish out, cut it

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Speaker 1: open and have some You know that that's Evan. You

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Speaker 1: stick your face in the water, bring up a fish,

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Speaker 1: and you know that's what I could say, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: We're going to explore the big money issues in the

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Speaker 1: world of sports, and let's start first of all, the

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Speaker 1: All Star Game. I thought it was a good All

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Speaker 1: Star game. I have a basic problem with the All

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Speaker 1: Star Game that I've had four years, years and years

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Speaker 1: and years, which is that the best players start the game.

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Speaker 1: So when it's at its apex, when the game's on

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Speaker 1: the line and the eighth and the ninth inning, there's

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Speaker 1: a bunch of guys that maybe I haven't heard of,

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Speaker 1: or lots of people haven't heard of, you bring in

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Speaker 1: the lesser lights. So I mean, I don't mean to

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Speaker 1: they're all stars. It's great, But I want to see

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Speaker 1: Jacob Degram facing Mike Trout in the ninth inning. Yes,

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Speaker 1: but but they're out of the game by then. Then

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Speaker 1: I got some guy I never heard of facing a

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Speaker 1: reliever that I've never heard of. Who's this the Roldest

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Speaker 1: Chapman guy? No, I mean, I mean him in the

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Speaker 1: politics it's a politics. Well it's not politics, it's baseball.

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Speaker 1: Starters start. But still, I mean, you have to why

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Speaker 1: can't we save you Why can't you save your best

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Speaker 1: players for later in the game. Well, why do you

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Speaker 1: have to? All you're voting the most popular players start

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Speaker 1: the game. That's a problem because then they're out when

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Speaker 1: the game is on the line. But you've got thirty

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Speaker 1: teams in there, So let those lesser lights start. Yes,

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Speaker 1: let the lesson let them pick a team, pick the

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Speaker 1: all star team. Then you let the manager decide who

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Speaker 1: starts the game and who's going to say for the

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Speaker 1: ninth inning. I want my biggest stars in the game

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Speaker 1: when the game is on the line. But a lot

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Speaker 1: of pill turn now, who but a lot of people

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Speaker 1: tune in at the start to see these you're tuning in,

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Speaker 1: They're going to tune in anyway. That's my point. They'll

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Speaker 1: watch anyway. Let's get to why we want to talk

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Speaker 1: about because justin Verlander, he had he had some stuff

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Speaker 1: you know why he's asserting. I mean that we've heard

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Speaker 1: this before. But the critical assertion now is that Major

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Speaker 1: League Baseball owns Rawlings, which of course was sold last

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Speaker 1: year and which supplies baseball with the official balls. They

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Speaker 1: did a study last year that said, yes, there's something different,

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Speaker 1: but we don't know why. So the players and now say, wait, let'

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Speaker 1: let's see if I have this right side. Directory Partners,

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Speaker 1: a private equity company controlled by the owner of the

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Speaker 1: San Diego padres with Major League Baseball also as an investor,

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Speaker 1: and acquires the company that makes the balls. The balls

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Speaker 1: are different and they don't know why, but the balls

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Speaker 1: are flying at a ball now, Rob Manfred says, no,

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Speaker 1: the balls are fine, they're not juiced. Says, we don't

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Speaker 1: know if why they're different. But it's you're giving ammo.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a weird spot for Major League Baseball

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Speaker 1: to be in as owner of the company that supplies

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Speaker 1: or what's going on. I mean, obviously, if you're a

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Speaker 1: picture like Justin Verlander, you have a pretty good idea

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Speaker 1: about what you think about the baseball. But you know what,

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Speaker 1: he called it an effing joke. Yeah, yeah he did.

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Speaker 1: He was not playing. It was very funny to see,

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Speaker 1: by the way, how players want a tippytoe. So many

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Speaker 1: players didn't want to comment, particularly the pictures, and then

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Speaker 1: they said, well Verlander said this, and then they were like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we agree, and then everybody, oh, justin Justin talking about it.

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Speaker 1: Why don't we talk about it? To guy from the

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Speaker 1: trite man to come, just say what they want to say.

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Speaker 1: Man didn't become a winner until Houston. Hey wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: he won the World Series, but he went to the

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Speaker 1: World Series with the Tigers. Also, how nice it you're

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Speaker 1: What was the big problem? You know what the big

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Speaker 1: that's right. He didn't know they were at the bar,

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Speaker 1: and right he gave them tickets to the game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I forgot about even Higgy Baby would have known it

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Speaker 1: was travelin Whittaker. Let's talk about Evan's story, and congratulations

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Speaker 1: again to the US women's soccer team and their World

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Speaker 1: Cup win going on, well as we're taping this, it's

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Speaker 1: going on right now. Yeah, and heroes. Yeah, and by

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Speaker 1: the way, Mayor Bill de Blasio said, this is great

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Speaker 1: for the Canyon of Heroes because usually it's there for men,

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Speaker 1: and now you have the women there and it's changing

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Speaker 1: and it's change that has been needed for a long time. Well,

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Speaker 1: you want to laugh doing what we do. Of course,

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Speaker 1: sometimes our family members annoy us with requests. You know

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Speaker 1: what I got from my sister yesterday. I mean, and

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Speaker 1: I had to let her down nicely. And I know

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Speaker 1: message at I don't know, three or four o'clock yesterday.

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Speaker 1: The old hooked me up with you. Do you think

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Speaker 1: do you think my niece, Sydney, who's you know, probably

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Speaker 1: I think she's eleven or twelve play soccer? Do you

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Speaker 1: think that maybe you could get Sydney sometime with Alex

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Speaker 1: my sister is that the day before the parade says

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Speaker 1: to me, do you think maybe you can get some

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Speaker 1: Then they're going to the right, you know, to the

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Speaker 1: So my answer was simple, no, no, I do not.

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Speaker 1: know what, let's talk about why my niece is just

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Speaker 1: an example of what's going on. So fourteen point three

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Speaker 1: if you talk to Megan Rapino, she's saying, look, we're

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Speaker 1: it's time for some action. And here we are. Well,

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Speaker 1: it is an interesting debate in how much does each

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Speaker 1: and US Soccer and the women's and the men do

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Speaker 1: the US national team there is demand. Now, let me

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Speaker 1: to those games? Or will it like it be last

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Speaker 1: Will it be like last time? Excuse me? Where Carly

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Speaker 1: Now will people watch? Will it aggregate eyeballs? Because if

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Speaker 1: If it does. If it does not generate revenue, then

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Speaker 1: what a nice problem to have for Mikhail Proker of

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Speaker 1: They expect to have record revenue after signing Durant and

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Speaker 1: And proke Roff responded that this will be a record

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Speaker 1: a great time this is for fanatics. You've got all

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Speaker 1: so that folks will now go out and have to

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Speaker 1: buy more Lebron James Jerseys. This is a lot like

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Speaker 1: just some comparison. I was thinking about if you bought

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Speaker 1: an album, the actual vinyl album, what's happened that? What

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Speaker 1: oh Cooling the Gang with the Summer Madness track. I

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Speaker 1: a whole new audience to go buy CDs or I

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Speaker 1: said Fanatics had that nice fan guarantee where within a

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Speaker 1: It was not just Jackson was Jackson was good, not great.

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