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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you hear that sound, you get fired up.

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Speaker 2: It's Morning Combat back in your absolute face. Hoole here

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Speaker 2: on Monday September sixteenth, two thousand and twenty five, is

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Speaker 1: It's fifteen because it's my wedding anniversary.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations. How many years we had?

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Speaker 1: We have been married thirteen years. We've been together sixteen

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. I've known you for a lot

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Speaker 2: of those years. These have been the best thirteen years. Hey,

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Speaker 2: Brian Campbell, that's Luke Thomas. We are both relatively fresh

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Speaker 2: off the bird from Las Vegas, and you better believe

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Speaker 2: today's episode of Morning Combat will be heavy on all

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Speaker 2: things Crawford Cannell Lowe. Notice you got to switch those

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Speaker 2: names now, nautche UFC and we'll take your DMS. We'll

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Speaker 2: pick through my she at Well, Luke, we're back. I

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Speaker 2: haven't been home yet in a week. But that's part

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Speaker 1: That's that's the deal, dude.

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Speaker 2: I have to say this first and foremost. They didn't

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Speaker 2: super fight. Terrence Crawford got it all right, but all

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Speaker 1: No, we want to just get started. I don't know

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Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna have a show after all. There

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Speaker 2: To recaliber here. Let's get our let's get our professional

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Speaker 2: number one. Here we go. It happened in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: It was the super Fight. The undisputed super middleweight championship

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Speaker 2: on the line. Is Terrence Crawford moving up officially two

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Speaker 2: two years ago when he unified welterweight titles against Aerol

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Speaker 2: Spence in a breakthrough performance, Well put that one in

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Speaker 2: Terrence Crawford did the thing, a unanimous decision win over

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Speaker 2: Canelo Alvarez. It was on Netflix, the first Combat Sports

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Speaker 2: a lot to get into on this, and we will

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Speaker 2: becoming the first mailboxer to be undisputed now in three

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Speaker 2: Beyond the context of Crawford's victory, what can we say

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Speaker 2: he was so late in his career to get these matchups.

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Speaker 2: But to now line up Spence, modr Mooth and Canello

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Speaker 2: five division champion, Dude, he is he is?

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Speaker 1: He?

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Speaker 2: Sorry? H E sorry turkg now him hyms dot com.

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Speaker 1: Terrence Crawford, bro, I don't know what the question was there?

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Speaker 1: Do you start that one over again? Wow? How did

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 2: How did he do it? When? You know, to get

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Speaker 2: all serious, the real narrative was the size difference. There

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Speaker 2: How in your eyes, was Terrence Crawford able to pull

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Speaker 1: Well, I do think there still was something of a

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Speaker 1: moving up in that sense. However, BC, he took whatever

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Speaker 1: the defensive effort from Bud was extraordinary in.

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Speaker 2: Close range for shots that Canelo normally lands, just shutting

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Speaker 1: So he got hit less in this fight than he

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Speaker 1: First of all, he comes out in South Paul. Why

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Speaker 1: Canelo landed in any round in this fight? The most?

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Speaker 1: He never got more than this, and in fact he

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Speaker 2: I meant, that's what a South Paul stance. If you

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Speaker 1: His positioning was perfect, his choice of stance was exactly ideal.

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Speaker 1: So his offense to me was not overwhelming. I don't

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Speaker 1: with those flurries boxing and combination. Again, Canelo can really

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's lost some of the value as

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Speaker 1: This was one guy with outrageous skill offensively and defensively

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Speaker 2: But like Canelo like, well, the best he could against

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Speaker 2: they said a lot coming into this fight, when we

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Speaker 2: I could not believe how much Bud was able to

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Speaker 2: Did not open up the door for a backdoor robbery,

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Speaker 2: Turns out, Bud did it on the flip, but to

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Speaker 2: not sure what else he could have done. The most

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Speaker 2: type of opponents that could really show us. But you

440
00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,840
Speaker 2: hear the great ones say that you need a great

441
00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,960
Speaker 2: one across from you to bring out your greatness. That's

442
00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,479
Speaker 2: why I don't want people to dunk on Canelo.

443
00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:13,720
Speaker 7: Here.

444
00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:15,840
Speaker 2: He gave the best of what thirty five year old

445
00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,919
Speaker 2: Canelo could twenty years into his career, but that best

446
00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:23,560
Speaker 2: brought an even deeper level of greatness out of Bud. Basically,

447
00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,960
Speaker 2: a thirty eight year old Bud might be doing the

448
00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,920
Speaker 2: best work of his Hall of Fame career right now.

449
00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,200
Speaker 2: That's not crazy to say.

450
00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,560
Speaker 1: It's not crazy to say, I think that I don't

451
00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,800
Speaker 1: know where he is physically in terms of his prime,

452
00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,600
Speaker 1: although as we mentioned, he was certainly ready for the

453
00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,359
Speaker 1: physical challenges at sixty eight. But I think what I

454
00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:44,000
Speaker 1: would say BC is maybe in terms of the technical challenge,

455
00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,440
Speaker 1: he's clearly a step ahead of his contemporaries. Like, dude,

456
00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,280
Speaker 1: you know what really blows my mind about Bud? He

457
00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:51,560
Speaker 1: got hit a few times. He did mentioned that this,

458
00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,879
Speaker 1: particularly in that round five that was the first, like

459
00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,679
Speaker 1: I thought, pretty decent round for Canelo, you know, although

460
00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,439
Speaker 1: I thought some of the early rounds were close to

461
00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,760
Speaker 1: the point where I thought Vegas could horror Bud, and

462
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,360
Speaker 1: in fact that did happen a little bit along the way.

463
00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,080
Speaker 2: Like Skipper Cup who was the on screen scorer, and

464
00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,640
Speaker 2: Dan Rayfield both had Canelo up for nothing, which I had.

465
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,080
Speaker 1: Oh no, Skipper had uh Okay, I saw it like

466
00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 1: some people had.

467
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:16,600
Speaker 2: It was a little while, but I guess doesn't not

468
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,480
Speaker 2: speak to it was close early on it was.

469
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 1: It was certainly it was certainly close and tactical. Upon review,

470
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,399
Speaker 1: it's pretty clear to me that Bud won them. I

471
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:24,959
Speaker 1: had up three to one at that point, but in

472
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,320
Speaker 1: real time, dude, Canelo just has this way of snake

473
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:28,920
Speaker 1: charming the judges, and I think there was something to

474
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,600
Speaker 1: be said for that. Although by the time the twelfth

475
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,439
Speaker 1: round finished, it was like, there's no question, did you

476
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,080
Speaker 1: score it? Just so you know, I think I also

477
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,679
Speaker 1: had it eight four as well for Bud, and maybbe

478
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,680
Speaker 1: you know, I could even I'm saying I could even

479
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 1: go nine three if and there.

480
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 2: Could be eight fours and nine threes that look more dominant.

481
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,960
Speaker 2: This was a competitive fight until it kind of wasn't.

482
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 1: Bivall beat Canelo nine three? And is that right?

483
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 8: Even though visually we saw it, we saw I think

484
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,400
Speaker 8: I had that one nine three and in part because

485
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,080
Speaker 8: Bival did beat Canelo up a little bit on the

486
00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,199
Speaker 8: rope to them up, which is which is something that

487
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,399
Speaker 8: you never really saw Bud do.

488
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 1: One of the questions Sean Porter asked was could Bud

489
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,359
Speaker 1: really back him up? There were times he could do it,

490
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 1: but Bud didn't win this fight by force Bud. Bud

491
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,199
Speaker 1: basically meant Canelo. He made him go wide. Did you

492
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 1: notice that he had to go wide on the hooks

493
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 1: and then wide with the overhand, and he kind of

494
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,680
Speaker 1: kept the inside space and then use that to flurry

495
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 1: back them up, score a hook and turn right, all

496
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 1: the things you would need to do, and it Canelo

497
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 1: to your point, I think right after round nine it

498
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,120
Speaker 1: looked to me like I think Canelo had a decent

499
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 1: round ten or eleven, But basically after round nine he

500
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,199
Speaker 1: just looked at that and was like, I don't have

501
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 1: any other answer.

502
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,239
Speaker 2: I think ten was the only one I gave him

503
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 2: out of the final four. I definitely gave Bud the

504
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 2: last two as it all three judges, I think it

505
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 2: was really so. I think the fifth round was Canelo's

506
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 2: big comeback. Yes, but there was a moment in the

507
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,400
Speaker 2: sixth where the back and forth exchanging in the middle

508
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 2: of ring started to happen. And if you notice, Crawford

509
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 2: land did a big punch, his biggest of the fight,

510
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 2: he followed it up with like an eight punch combination.

511
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 2: It was as if the window was there to go

512
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 2: for it, and even though it didn't lead to a knockdown,

513
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 2: didn't lead to a knockout. I wonder if the if

514
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 2: the psychological edge changed right there where Canelo was like,

515
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 2: I cannot back this guy up, I cannot keep this

516
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 2: guy off.

517
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 1: But do there You know I love about watching Bud

518
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 1: Crawford fights, man is when you go through him a

519
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 1: second time or third time or whatever, is how many

520
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 1: little details you see. So one of the things that

521
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 1: really called my attention was where he puts his gloves.

522
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,479
Speaker 1: There are times he'll cover half of his face, then

523
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: there's times that's a quarter face. Then there's times where

524
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 1: his hand fully covers his ear and he seems to

525
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: know exactly where he needs to put it, not just

526
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,400
Speaker 1: because he's anticipating what Canelo is gonna throw, but because

527
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 1: he's also on the movie and he has to sort

528
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 1: of be reactive, he had precise details like that he

529
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 1: would wait for Canelo's overhand and step past it and

530
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: then pop him on the counter, which is like so

531
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:49,360
Speaker 1: hard to do.

532
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 2: That one video that keeps going around of that duck

533
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 2: in left hand cruses he get this exact can just like,

534
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 2: holy shit.

535
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 1: I think Canelo was because dude, this was the other

536
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 1: part I've never I've seen Canelo reach a lot, but

537
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: I've never seen Canelo reach this much ineffectively where he

538
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: has to bring his back foot with him in order

539
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 1: to find the guy with his back with his back

540
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 1: arm and still missing as a consequence. So Bud was

541
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 1: able to kind of with that lead hand fighting. He's

542
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: establishing distance, he's shutting down the jab, he's helping himself turn,

543
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 1: and he's occupying the rhythm and changing the rhythm so

544
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 1: that he can't get started. And it made Canelo desperate,

545
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 1: which then Bud feasted on after that. This is what

546
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 1: to me, I know they're MMA fans, Listen if you

547
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 1: like only boxing, cool, if you like both MMA and boxing,

548
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: like we do cool.

549
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 2: And if you like both and disgusting pornography like you,

550
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 2: then that.

551
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: That's even better. That's the top that's that's the top tier.

552
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: But if you also just like boxing and MME is

553
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: not for you, I also get it like it's no

554
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 1: big deal. But the people who watch MMA and then

555
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: try to watch boxing through an MMA lens, I don't

556
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: know what to tell you. You sound a little dumb,

557
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 1: and either irrespective of that, you're actually missing the point.

558
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: There is very little in MMA. It happens, it can happen,

559
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: but the kind of specific details and the depth of

560
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: the technical ability in general and especially in this fight

561
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: far surpasses even what you can get at the highest

562
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: level of MMA because they don't have that level of skill.

563
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: They've got a wider skill set, but they don't have

564
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: a specific skill set to that degree and the little

565
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: tiny details. What I'm going to try and explain to you, donks,

566
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: is it calls upon something else within your fandom. Do

567
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: we love a hit of the crack pipe BC, Lord

568
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: knows we get Hunter Biden when Jayon Silva and Diego

569
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: Lopez are killing each other, freaking love it. But it

570
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 1: calls upon something different When you watch somebody who is

571
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: a fucking master craftsman. There is no equivalent in MMA

572
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 1: to Bud Crawford because there cannot be.

573
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 2: Sometimes there's technical thrillers, but then you know, people like

574
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 2: to like to think it didn't happen and was boring

575
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 2: as shit was the highest level of skill. I mean,

576
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 2: to be fair, that left cross tank hit. I'm sorry,

577
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 2: no tank that Bud hit on Canelo. That probably drops

578
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 2: or knocks out every other fighter, Anello's chin being that

579
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 2: absurd to move with that.

580
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 1: We'll talk about Kellerman's broadcasting performance. But one thing he

581
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,719
Speaker 1: definitely did get right was he was saying that punch

582
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: was destroying Eryl Spence where he was catching him with

583
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 1: his own left coming in off the jab, and it's

584
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: true and.

585
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 2: Destroy the flipside. When we talk about the little things,

586
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 2: I felt like in the first half of the fight,

587
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: Crawford was willing to give up the body to a

588
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 2: murderous body puncher. Now, to be fair, Crawford's movement didn't

589
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 2: allow Canelo to like really sit down and set up

590
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 2: the left hook. So when he really gets people hurt

591
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 2: and gets them out of there like he did to

592
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 2: Rocky Fielding, where he just brutalized the body. But I

593
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 2: almost felt like Crawford had to no sell any body

594
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: attack in order to be able to stay close enough

595
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,199
Speaker 2: to get off his offense. And it was brilliant. He

596
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 2: had the high guard so locked up working from south bass,

597
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 2: so it took away Canelo's jab. As you mentioned, Canelo

598
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 2: really had to rely on either a lead right that

599
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 2: he would slip in up high, just tapping to the

600
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 2: body and almost using it as a jab. But anytime

601
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 2: Canelo did get off with the body shot but just

602
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 2: no soul did and kept flowing. Not every fighter's gonna

603
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 2: be able to do that either against somebody of Canelo's

604
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 2: power and ability right there across the board in every category,

605
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 2: but was like a ten out of ten on say, everywhere.

606
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 2: There was work to talk about the victory. Here's about

607
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 2: after the fight.

608
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 9: To be honest, when I said my sight's on doing

609
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 9: something and I know what I'm capable of, it's not

610
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 9: like a surprise to me. It's a surprise to y'all

611
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 9: because y'all didn't believe me, you know. But for me,

612
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 9: I knew I could do it, and I believe that

613
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 9: I could do it. I just needed the opportunity.

614
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 4: Terrence, When when did you know that you were gonna

615
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 4: beat him over here on your left.

616
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 9: When he signed a contract.

617
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 4: One your opinion on which means the most to you?

618
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 4: You became a five division world champion. You became the

619
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 4: third four division lineal champion with Mayweer.

620
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 2: And Pac Yaw.

621
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 4: You became a three time undisputed champion, the first ever

622
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 4: in the two, three or four belt era. And you

623
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 4: became the second undisputed champion in three way classes when

624
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 4: there was only one champion back in nineteen thirty eight

625
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 4: with Henry Armstrong. That's a lot of stuff. You hear that,

626
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 4: You hear that, Which do you think means the most?

627
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: And all of it?

628
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 9: It all goes hand in hand.

629
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 4: Can you describe what it all means to you to have?

630
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 4: If you just made like a whole resume of stuff tonight.

631
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 9: It means it means a lot to me, because you know,

632
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 9: anybody can be a nobody, Like I said, you know,

633
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 9: and that's all they say, I've been fighting is nobody's

634
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 9: So what can they say?

635
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 1: Now?

636
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 9: Somebody tell me?

637
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 1: What can you say?

638
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 10: Now?

639
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 4: You can take congratulations?

640
00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 1: That's it? What can you say? Any words? Kent I

641
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: bet you did.

642
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 2: I just want to say, he beat Spence at age

643
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 2: thirty five and basically three quarters, and he beat Canello

644
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 2: three divisions higher, two week shy of thirty eight. That's insane, Like,

645
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 2: are you fucking kidding me? This is what we're talking about. So, Luke,

646
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 2: I almost feel like I have to apologize to Bud.

647
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,479
Speaker 2: Look in the last two years trying to come with

648
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 2: to terms with how one sided the Spence victory was.

649
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 2: I have to say, as somebody who followed Spence's career

650
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 2: the entire way was a part of some of the

651
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 2: you know, showtime pay per views that let up to

652
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 2: his biggest fights, or the work I did on Fox

653
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 2: before that, I knew how good Spence was, even with

654
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: the accident, even with him being at an advanced agent

655
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: cutting down to forty seven. I just convinced myself that

656
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 2: a lot of that victory was Terrence's greatness, but a

657
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 2: certain percentage of it was Spence could no longer make

658
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 2: that way the accident. This the that I feel like

659
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: this Canlo performance erases that and just says Bud was

660
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 2: that much better than all the great welterweights of his

661
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 2: era because he fought an unbeaten Spence who had gone

662
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 2: through everyone. Do you feel that same way that it

663
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 2: almost successfully rewrites that history two years ago and shows

664
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 2: you that if he could do this against this Canelo

665
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: right now, three divisions higher, he could have done that

666
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 2: against anyone when he was on the wrong side of

667
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 2: the street in his prime, not getting the fights that

668
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: he deserve.

669
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: I will tell you I don't feel that way, but

670
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: because because I because what Bud did against Spence was

671
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: so remember the story, right, So we have the guy

672
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: here who did it. When we were working for Showtime

673
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: at the time, and I was used to doing previews

674
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: for them, like the breakdowns and whatnot, and they asked

675
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: me to do one for Spence and Crawford. But at

676
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: the time, Crawford had the majority of his fight library

677
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: with top Rank, who didn't give us a lot of

678
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: footage to use. So Bob so I know, well, I mean,

679
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,479
Speaker 1: there wasn't I don't think they were being dicks. They

680
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: just they just didn't I don't know what happened. They

681
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: just didn't give us a lot. So I went back

682
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: to Showtime and I was like, hey, I can't really

683
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: make this work. They're like, right, well, you know they

684
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: didn't just do a Spence one. People were killing me

685
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: at the time. Why didn't you do a Bud preview?

686
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: We tried, we didn't. We couldn't get any footage. But anyway,

687
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: so I went into that fight having broken down the

688
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: Brook fight and the Algieri fight and the Porter yes

689
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: and then Ugas and everything, and I was like, man,

690
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: I know Budd is good, but like, man, the tape

691
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: on Spence is absurd. And then Bud.

692
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: Just the plays with him and took his best shots.

693
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 2: We forget about that. Spence landed in that fighter and

694
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: Bud walked through it.

695
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: There was that one time he got dropped where Spence

696
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: came in with a huge overhand left and Bud had

697
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: to roll with it in order to land the counter.

698
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: So my point being is I was my eyes were

699
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: so wide open after that I didn't feel that way.

700
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: The only question was now we're two years later, now

701
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: we're three weight classes up. I mean, this is a

702
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: different kettle of fish. Until it just wasn't. Dude, Bud

703
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: is You know, Bud is the most talented boxer I've

704
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: seen since Mayweather. And you know, you can make an

705
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: argument and maybe we'll talk about it about whether he is

706
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: better than Mayweather, but at a bare minimum, that's the

707
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: most technically gifted boxer I've seen since then, and I

708
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: know it in my bones that that's true.

709
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 2: As we get a little closer to talking about this

710
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 2: in historical context, let's listen to Canelo, who obviously fought

711
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 2: Floyd Mayweather when Floyd was thirty six, Canelo was twenty three,

712
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 2: and now at thirty five foughty nearly thirty eight year

713
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: old Bud Crawford. Here's Canelo comparing the two.

714
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 11: In the world of comparisons that we live in right now.

715
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 11: If you can compare and contrast the fight between yourself

716
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 11: and Floyd Mayweather Junior and tonight's bout with Terrence Bud Crawford.

717
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 10: If you can't, no, I think Crafford is way better

718
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 10: than than Floyd Mayweather.

719
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: Wow, wow, way better, way better now to Floyd. To

720
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: be fair to Floyd, he obviously had hand problems in

721
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 2: his whole welter right run, and it's why he took

722
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 2: those that long stretch off in the two thousand and seven,

723
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 2: two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine area. And

724
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: Flood's brilliance to be able to be just as great

725
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 2: in some ways of that age, like we're not We're

726
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 2: not here trying to dunk on Floyd, but this does

727
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: from the idea of is Bud the god of the era?

728
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: Max Cullum and said it afterwards. You know a lot

729
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 2: of us I've been saying it in print or on

730
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 2: CBS Sports HQ, like when you get a victory like this,

731
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: when you close all those career doesn't look to be

732
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 2: fully done. We'll talk about that. But when you when

733
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 2: you close your career with these type of wins, like

734
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 2: right now, straight up, Luke, you could say that there's

735
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 2: not a welterweight, junior middleweight, middleweight, or maybe even super middleweight,

736
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: and I say maybe even just because could Benevidez come

737
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 2: back down and make sixty I don't know. But when

738
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 2: you could say over like a four division stretch and

739
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 2: say Bud cut down to any of these weights, that

740
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 2: there's not another guy in the world that can beat

741
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 2: you right now, that's Mayweather level. Okay, that's Mayweather level

742
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 2: right now. But in your eyes, is it fair to

743
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 2: make him the fighter of this era? So what does

744
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: that define to me? This is the post Mayweather Pacchio era,

745
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: meaning twenty fifteen, they fought each other that sort of

746
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 2: ended the era, even though both fought a couple times

747
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: more in some forms, right, we all thought it was

748
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 2: the Canelo era after that, But if we're really looking

749
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 2: at what this fight represented in terms of what's at

750
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 2: stake separate from the three undisputed championship opportunity, it was

751
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: kind of like two guys fighting for the era. This era, though,

752
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 2: to be fair, also has Naiowa in a way who

753
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: won on Sunday, and another big win as Alexander Usik,

754
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 2: who is has one of the most unique historic runs

755
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: of all time. Is it fair to say, first just

756
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 2: in the post Mayweather Pachio era that Bud secured on

757
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 2: Saturday Night, that he's the best of the last ten

758
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: years of this run right now?

759
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: I think so? Now that's tough on Usick, but tough

760
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: on Usick for in a way to me, the strength

761
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: of schedule of Bud is better to the point where yes,

762
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: he's clearly out of in a way, the Usik one

763
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: is harder because he is Usik, is I mean, someone

764
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: was asking me, so what really is the difference between

765
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: Usick and Bud? Part of the issue, But tell me,

766
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: if you disagree. Now, he when he went through cruiserweight USIC,

767
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: he went through a very good crop.

768
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 2: He went through like a historically deep section. They were

769
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: all unbeaten, and he beat them all in succession.

770
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: But the problem is going from cruiserweight to heavyweight is

771
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: that while he's having to give up these enormous weight

772
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: advantages and he's beating these big figures, it loses something

773
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: because you know, for example, if he unified at bridger weight,

774
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: which would be in between, would anyone care? Would it

775
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: mean anything? Whereas with Bud you've got these story divisions

776
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,919
Speaker 1: in between, so there's just much more material for him

777
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: to be able to use usefully in that.

778
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 2: It's a very close debate either way.

779
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: Yes, him and Usick. To me, that's the real debate.

780
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is That is the real debate. But the

781
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,479
Speaker 2: sexier thing now is to say because to me, before

782
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 2: the Mayweather Pachio era, it was the Roy Jones era,

783
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: and he was undoubtedly the best fighter.

784
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: I was the guy through through the.

785
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: Totality of the end of the nineties into those first

786
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: couple of years of the two thousands. So is it

787
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 2: fair even though Bud became a global star, even though

788
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 2: Bud got the matchups like, Look, seriously, if you ask

789
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 2: what are Bud's best wins, you're gonna mostly focus on

790
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: the last third of his career. The Sean Porter win

791
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 2: when he finally got an elite welterweight against him, you know, obviously,

792
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 2: the Spence Madromov and now Canelo run right here. Obviously,

793
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: it's not like he didn't beat anybody. He's a five

794
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 2: division champion, from Ricky Burns to Gambola, like Jeff Horne

795
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 2: was unbeaten when he took the metal from him, but

796
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 2: because it took him so late to get the type

797
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: of names on his resume that would even put him

798
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: in this category. And we're comparing him to Floyd and Manny,

799
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: who have such a firm hold of history of this

800
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: century and beyond, from Floyd's fifty to oh to being

801
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 2: the biggest star financially that we've ever seen, to Pacquiao

802
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 2: winning titles in eight divisions and oh, by the way,

803
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 2: he's still going. He just fought Barrio So forty six

804
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 2: and almost won another world title. So is it is

805
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: there any way we can possibly say that Bud has

806
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: eclipsed both of those in historical reverence, or is this

807
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: too much of a gray area, because it might be

808
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 2: one thing to say head to head at their well

809
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 2: toweight primes Bud versus Floyd. I don't know. I feel

810
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 2: like a lot of us might actually be picking Bud

811
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 2: right now. He's longer, he switches stands as he does.

812
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 2: You know, there's certain things, but what he achieved I

813
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 2: cannot put him above Mayweather or Pakia because he got

814
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 2: these opportunities so late, even though it's insanely impressible.

815
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: It wasn't Pakyo like an eight division or nine.

816
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 2: It was an eight division champion. And the run like Mayweather,

817
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 2: the run of Hall of famers that he beats along

818
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: the way is like in yeah.

819
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the problem with Bud's career, right. It

820
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: bloomed kind of late, and so where they stack up

821
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: all time relative to one another complicates the debate. What

822
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: I will say is I find Bud to be as

823
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: defensively sound as I've ever seen a fighter, and has

824
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: offense like body for days. It's just you can't believe

825
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: the different ways in which he can find you. He

826
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: can find you, that's the problem to do. There's nowhere

827
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: to hide with him. He can find you. It's really

828
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: he can find you backing up, he can find you

829
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: going forward, he can find you side to side like

830
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: that's a tough guy like Floyd.

831
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 2: He has such control over the terms in there, it's

832
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 2: just insane. Let's hear Bud talk about, by the way,

833
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 2: the power, because it's not like he took nothing from Canelo,

834
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 2: and he took it very well. Here's Bud talking about

835
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: that power.

836
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 4: By anybody that's strong before. I mean, hit harder in

837
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 4: a real fight, a.

838
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 9: Real fight, Avenesian, I mean not Avenesian, but me, Machine

839
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 9: hit harder than Canelo to me.

840
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: Now, to be fair, he's all the folks about mean Machine.

841
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: He just cavaliowskis Mean Machine, the Lithuanian welterweight. Uh he

842
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 2: I mean so if you say Bud's technically never been

843
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 2: knocked down, but he got knocked down by mean Machine.

844
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 2: The referee missed the call. He called it a slip,

845
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 2: it wasn't. That's crazy. Now, Mean Machine's a big, hulking,

846
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: muscular guy and was a hard puncher. Does that mean

847
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: that Canelo doesn't hit his hard or that Bud's swiveling

848
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 2: and all that weight class?

849
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: Fight me welterweight one four seven.

850
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: And after getting knocked down, like a lot of Bud fights,

851
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 2: turned it into kick your ass mode, you know.

852
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then the thing to me about that is

853
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: like how you felt at forty seven, and the relative

854
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: power advantage that Mean Machine had there punches doesn't mean

855
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: that like at sixty eight, Canelo doesn't hit harder. It

856
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 1: just means your body settled into a better also Bud style.

857
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: To me in that fight, because I didn't watch the

858
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: whole thing, but I went back on some highlights, he

859
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: was a little bit more open in that fight, a

860
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: little bit more.

861
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 2: I don't think he thought Mean Machine was going to

862
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: be anything and then maybe got a little yes, yes,

863
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: that's right, was not surprised here he I mean, look,

864
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 2: you got to give bull Mack, Brian McIntyre's trainer, so

865
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 2: much credit, Give Bud so much credit. This wasn't a

866
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 2: fight they stumbled into. It's almost the fight they built

867
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 2: two years to get to you.

868
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: I've had such a hard time with Bomack's genius because

869
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: I bought one of his I told you about this,

870
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: I bought his tutorial on the job. Yeah, I want

871
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: to be very clear, it's the worst tutorial I've ever seen.

872
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 2: Did he have the family sized Cheetos beggers that insistive

873
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 2: of me to bring that up.

874
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,439
Speaker 1: He does it with Jamel Herring and they talk about

875
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: the job. The explanations for what he's trying to show

876
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: are uniquely terrible. You would learn nothing the record.

877
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 2: Bullmack was a pro heavyweight, he was a journeyman. He

878
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 2: has a losing record. But like, I don't know how

879
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: much of this genius is Bud compared to that. We

880
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: you know, we've seen that before. We've seen certain great

881
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 2: elite fighters that have a trainer and suddenly the trainer

882
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 2: gets a lot of respect, and then the trainer coaches

883
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 2: others and doesn't go on to the same level. Bull

884
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 2: Maack does coach a lot of big name fighters, right,

885
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 2: And is he Keshon Davis's trainer as well.

886
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I.

887
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: Believe he is, so I think he's you know that

888
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 2: video or not. You got to give them the flowers

889
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 2: in that respect. Here's a final thing on Bud here.

890
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 2: It's this whole Floyd comparison. This was a very I

891
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 2: thought classy response from Bud. You know, having his moment

892
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: at the post fight press conference when people are going

893
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 2: to bring up these obvious comparisons to the guys that

894
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 2: came before you.

895
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 12: Everyone is going to start making comparisons with your legacy

896
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 12: to Floyd Mayweather. How do you feel you compare with

897
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 12: Floyd with the resume you have now?

898
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 9: Listen, Floyd was the greatest in his air. I'm the

899
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 9: greatest in my era. It ain't no need to compare

900
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 9: me to Floyd or Florida me.

901
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 12: Do you talk to talk and you sure walk the walk.

902
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 12: Your confidence and aura is on another level. Could we

903
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 12: see a run as a light heavyweight?

904
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 4: Nah?

905
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 9: Now he ain't going out that much.

906
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: No, So first of all, it should be us, you know,

907
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: people like us debating this this legacy stuff. I like that.

908
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm not getting into this. I respect Floyd.

909
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: I agree separate that.

910
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: To close on him is what is next? What could

911
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 2: be next? You heard him like laugh and say no,

912
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 2: not light heavyweight. They would also ask at the presser

913
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: would you fight Benavidez and Bomack was like no, and

914
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 2: then they're like, well, Turkey just tweeted what happens if

915
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 2: Benavidez could make sixty eight? And they were like noncommittal. Later,

916
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 2: when Bud went on the Sports Center, set with Stephen A. Smith.

917
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 2: He was asked about coming back, and at first, remember

918
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 2: in the ring, Bud told Max Colorman like, I don't know.

919
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 2: I gotta pray, I gotta talk to my family. I

920
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 2: don't know if I'm going to continue. Bud did seem

921
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: like he was willing to go to middleweight. Now there's

922
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: no names at middleweight, that's the issue. But he never

923
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 2: did win a title at one sixty. He has one

924
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 2: title at fifty four. Janebec, I mean, look, there's this Thomas.

925
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 2: This is a very weak time for it. Domas has

926
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 2: the belt, Jannebeck has a couple of belts, but this

927
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 2: is obviously a very weak time in that division's history.

928
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: Do you think it would make sense whether it was

929
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: cutting down to fifty four, which he said he won't

930
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 2: do again. He said he won't cut to fifty four.

931
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: But there are good names there. There's Virgil Ortiz, there's

932
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 2: Boots Ennis. What if somebody becomes an undisputed champion there

933
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 2: and he gets that, or what if he just says,

934
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 2: let's try to unify all these belts at sixty. Is

935
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 2: it worth it for him to come back at this point?

936
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 2: Do you think we'll see Bud Crawford, who doesn't seem

937
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 2: to be motivated, motivated by money. And Ockenbrock told me

938
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 2: that he made fifty million for this fight.

939
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't buy he made ten million,

940
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: even a little bit.

941
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 2: So let's say he made fifty which is life generational,

942
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 2: life changing money. Will we see Terrence Crawford again?

943
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: Before the fight? I thought the answer was certainly yes,

944
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: because about a year ago, maybe not even I interviewed Bomack,

945
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: his trainer, and I asked Bomack, like, what happens if

946
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: you beat Canelo? He's like, yeah, We're done after that.

947
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: That's that's all we That's all we care about. That's

948
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: all we want. Once that's done, what's And he asked, like,

949
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: what's left after that? Who cares? And then they were

950
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: not exactly saying that on Saturday ABC. And I think

951
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: you know, one thing that Bud said was now I'm

952
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: the face of boxing. Now I'm the guy, which I

953
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: do believe to be true. He took it by force,

954
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: that's going to take it by force, took by force.

955
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: No one gave it to him, he took it by force.

956
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 1: So once that happens, a new world of possibilities opens.

957
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say, yes, I think you do. Now,

958
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: how far past this? It's got to be what two

959
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 1: or less fights? He's not going to be fighting till

960
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: he's forty. I just don't believe.

961
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 2: If he can add a sixth division title, which only

962
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: Oscar de la Hoya and Manny Pacio have done. Pakia

963
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 2: is eight, Oscar has six and potentially go undisputed. If

964
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: there's that opportunity.

965
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: At sixty, I mean that would be that would be

966
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: absolutely fucking insane.

967
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 2: But I wonder h Okay, to close. I keep saying

968
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: to close, but to really close, a lot of people

969
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 2: online blaming Bob Aram and Top Rank for not maximizing

970
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 2: the opportunity. Now, to be fair to Bob Ring and

971
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 2: Bob Aram in Top Ring, what they said negatively about

972
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: Bud when there when their contract, when their union came

973
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 2: to an end a couple of years ago, they said, look,

974
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,479
Speaker 2: we can't sell this guy. We paid him this money,

975
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 2: we put him in pay per views. It didn't sell. Now,

976
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 2: these pay per views were against after Mark at Kelbrook

977
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 2: and after Market a mere Cohn like there just wasn't

978
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 2: the names they got Sean Porter only because Al Hayman

979
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 2: and PBC seemed to be okay and allow that. Do

980
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: you look back and say that top rank missed it

981
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 2: or like, to be fair, Bud was not a starback then.

982
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: He didn't carry himself like a star. He wasn't a

983
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 2: good interview, he wasn't a great self promoter. He was

984
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 2: just a great fighter. Did they miss out on the

985
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 2: boat of still being a part of this ride and

986
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 2: getting him into those fights? Because, to be fair, even

987
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 2: though Floyd and Oscar came up and won titles under Bob,

988
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 2: both didn't really become commercially what they became until they

989
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 2: left him.

990
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: To be fair, I mean, to your point, dal La

991
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: Hooya had to leave Bob.

992
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 2: I mean, Dala Hoya was a star first, but the

993
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 2: trad of that fight was under Bob.

994
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: Like fine, but he eventually left him to do other

995
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: big things. Floyd definitely left Bob to become big things,

996
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: and sure enough so did Terrence. I mean, there seems

997
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: to be some kind of a common denominator here. The

998
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: thing that I come back to though, is like, at

999
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: the time Bob was making those calls, they did not

1000
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: seem they did not seem particularly irrational to me. Bud

1001
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: wasn't Bud back then and not the person you understand now.

1002
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 1: It just didn't really happen. So could Bob have done

1003
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: a better job. I'm sure that you can make the argument,

1004
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: but it wasn't exactly clear who to do. I mean, listen,

1005
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: I make this point all the time, dude. Think about

1006
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 1: how much money the NFL, and in particular NFL teams

1007
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: spend on talent scouting and the combine and who they're

1008
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: gonna draft and what place they're gonna draft him, And

1009
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 1: some guys don't get drafted to do Tom Brady? Did

1010
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 1: anyone think Tom Brady was gonna be Tom Brady when

1011
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: he got drafted? Whatever the fuck? I mean, borderline mister irrelevant?

1012
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: When he got drafted, nobody knew. Some people don't work

1013
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 1: well within the scouting talent star identification process.

1014
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you and I are two of them.

1015
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't fit the mold very easily, and I

1016
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: mean forget us, but neither did.

1017
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: But we don't have Cops agent because that guy is

1018
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: on TV every minute.

1019
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 1: I need an agent who can overlook the things I'm

1020
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: bad at like his agent does. But Okay, the point

1021
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make is he didn't fit that. He

1022
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: didn't fit that, So like it's gonna be hard to

1023
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: break out. But clearly what we can all agree on

1024
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: now is a lot was missed, and whoever's fault that is,

1025
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: you can decide.

1026
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: We can all debate whether this union between UFC and

1027
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 2: Turkey's gonna work, whether they can actually take over boxing,

1028
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 2: whether we want them to alli act, blah blah blah

1029
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 2: blah blah. I don't want to be in a situation

1030
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: moving forward with someone as great as Bud is on

1031
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: the wrong side of the street and misses the big

1032
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 2: matchups in his prime, because somebody this great should have

1033
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,919
Speaker 2: the complete resume to prove that, even though his resume

1034
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 2: is very good, but it's just it is what it is. Quickly,

1035
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 2: let me tell you something here. I'm going to tell

1036
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,480
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1037
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1038
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1039
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1040
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 2: same family, same land, even bigger, the same passion. Yes,

1041
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty years later, Quervo was still here

1042
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:42,920
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1043
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,440
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1044
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1045
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 2: Luke pregame Preview three twenty coming up for UFC and

1046
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 2: us here at Morning Combat.

1047
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: That's right, I'm looking forward.

1048
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:57,919
Speaker 2: Who do you want that chair? Who do you want

1049
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 2: that chair?

1050
00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: Angela White?

1051
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: There we go, There it is again, There it is again.

1052
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 2: All right, let's transition to topic number two. But where

1053
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 2: you're going to stay in the boxing ring? Oh, let's

1054
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: talk about Canelo. Let's talk about the biggest star of

1055
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 2: this era taking the baton from Floyd Mayweather without question.

1056
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: Some boxing fans, online observers, they want to argue that

1057
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 2: Canelo took this loss to Terrence Crawford professionally but possibly

1058
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 2: too willingly. Luke, do you agree with this and if so,

1059
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 2: what does that mean for Canelo's future? Did the years

1060
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 2: of lesser opponents and you'd been a big advocate for

1061
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 2: pointing that out. I've been saying he's been coasting. We've

1062
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 2: all been saying it. Mongia Burlonga. You know these type

1063
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 2: of matchmaking, even Jamel Charlow who didn't come to play

1064
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 2: in their big moment, did that lead up to this

1065
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 2: catching up with Canelo? Do you feel Canelo was too

1066
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 2: willing to accept defeat even though he put his hand

1067
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 2: up after the bell and the twelfth round, and people

1068
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 2: criticized him it was a closer fight than maybe your

1069
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 2: eyes tell you it was a competitive fight until it wasn't.

1070
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 2: But what do you make of how we should be

1071
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: looking at Canelo coming off of this defeat?

1072
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: To me, this was proof of what we've kind of known.

1073
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: People are like, oh, the reason why he performed lesser

1074
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: than in this fight is because he's been taking lesser

1075
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: than fights and that dulled the sharpness of his blade.

1076
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 2: Yet he has been consistent in fighting. I don't buy

1077
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 2: that in a couple of years and looks tremendous, which

1078
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: is rare.

1079
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: I don't buy that theory. My theory is he took

1080
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: those lesser than fights because he had a keen self

1081
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: awareness of his own decline. Because the reality, the reality

1082
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: is he not only took these bullshit ass fights. Remember

1083
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: he expressly dodged and ducked David Benavidez. I have no

1084
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: sympathy for that. Well, it's not about having sympathy. It's

1085
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: like it's like he didn't get lesser than because he

1086
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 1: didn't take. In other words, in a different world where

1087
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: he fights Benavidez and he fights these other tougher guys,

1088
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: he would still be sharper as a consequence. And I

1089
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: just don't believe that. I think he knew he was

1090
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: on the out dude, Like the very It's the same

1091
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: with John Jones. The very best fighters, the very best athletes,

1092
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: the really really good ones, they know their body and

1093
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: they know their level and they know what they're capable of.

1094
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: And to me, they were both trying, in John's case

1095
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: as well as Canelo's case, they were trying to manage decline, which,

1096
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: as you understand, is fine except when they hold the belts.

1097
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,439
Speaker 1: In both cases, that was the problem. And in fact,

1098
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about this because people were asking, like,

1099
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: what's next for Canelo? It might be Jake Paul. It

1100
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: might be Jake Paul, but he doesn't have a belt,

1101
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: so it's like, who's he holding up? He's not holding

1102
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: up anything at this point. But getting back to Canelo,

1103
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: this was to me, when he could no longer hide

1104
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: that he has been in decline. It's not a huge decline,

1105
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: but falling off a cliff, right.

1106
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 2: I don't think he lost because he was old, like

1107
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 2: I don't think he was struggling a little bit in

1108
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 2: the Championship Rowns stamina wise, I just think he couldn't

1109
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: figure him out.

1110
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: Right, So the stamina, to me, he looked to be

1111
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 1: in better shape in this one than I saw him

1112
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: in the Mungie fight, for example, I thought he was

1113
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: in much and even the Burlonga one, I thought he

1114
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: was in better shape. But the reality is, we see

1115
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: this was an opponent he could not you know, he

1116
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 1: could not how do there was he could camouflage his

1117
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 1: decline against a Berlonga who he could knock down early

1118
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: and then you know, kind of just do better than

1119
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: the rest of the way. But is not that guy.

1120
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 1: You can't do that to him. It simply doesn't work.

1121
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,479
Speaker 1: And so to me, what got revealed is something that's

1122
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: been there for a while that he has been trying

1123
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: to hide from the public.

1124
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 2: No more hiding, no more hiding at all. Let's hear

1125
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 2: from Canelo talking about exactly how difficult it was to

1126
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 2: deal with Terrence Crawford in this fight.

1127
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 10: We knew was he's a great fighter, and and I

1128
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 10: did what I supposed to do, right. I tried for

1129
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 10: every way and I turned really hard and he deserved

1130
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 10: all the credit. No, I try, I try my best tonight,

1131
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 10: and I just can't no figure out the style.

1132
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 4: Was it something specific the movement or his speed or

1133
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 4: power or what? Was there something you could put your

1134
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 4: finger on that gave you.

1135
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 2: The most trouble?

1136
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 1: Everything?

1137
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 10: Everything, okay, he.

1138
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 2: Have everything, and just.

1139
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 4: One more Canelo. It has been I can't even know

1140
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 4: the number of years it's been since you've been without

1141
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 4: a world title. Even after you lost to Dimitri BiVO,

1142
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 4: you still were the super middleweight champion. It's been probably

1143
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 4: ten years or whatever since you haven't had a title.

1144
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 4: Has it sunk in yet that for the first time

1145
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 4: and all that time, you're not a world champion?

1146
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 10: Can you repeat the question, Bliss.

1147
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 4: Just that it's been so many years since you have

1148
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 4: not been a world champion, and so it's as it

1149
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 4: sunk in yet that for the first time in forever,

1150
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 4: you're not a world champion.

1151
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 10: No, I feel a champion, No matter what you know,

1152
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 10: I I win no matter what, No matter what, then

1153
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 10: I still fill a champion. So it is what it is.

1154
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 10: You you need to take a loss. And and I

1155
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 10: said everything and and but I'm gonna continue. I'm not

1156
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 10: continue to do it, dude.

1157
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 2: I gotta give him credit. I don't know if people

1158
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 2: wanted him to like argue that he thought he won

1159
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 2: felt like a little delusional.

1160
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: You know, I thought he took it well. Actually, I mean,

1161
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 1: did he take it all raging and saying and delusional shit.

1162
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: Maybe that would be more appealing to some people. It

1163
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: wasn't more appealing to me. He was like, you know what, dude,

1164
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: holy fuck, I just do sometimes you you know, like when.

1165
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 2: He lost to Bevall, he still was saying, I want

1166
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 2: to rematch. I want to show you because maybe part

1167
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 2: of him thought, because that was during the era he

1168
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 2: had the injured wrist and he couldn't train, well, maybe

1169
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 2: there was part of him I thought, give me another chance,

1170
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 2: I'll do it. This was him realizing I just got

1171
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 2: straight up handled. I got beat. I didn't think I

1172
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 2: was gonna get beat. I got beat. But for him

1173
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 2: to say I'm gonna keep fighting, I respect that. The

1174
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 2: Benevida's thing. I guess does that cloud go away that

1175
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 2: we held that against him, because I don't think he's

1176
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 2: going to seek that fight. I think Jake Paul is

1177
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 2: a perfect option for him to make money and get

1178
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 2: an easy one. I'm wondering if it's going to be

1179
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 2: instead Turkey overpaying him to fight Hamsas Charras or Chris

1180
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 2: U Bank if yeah, maybe the U Bank one England

1181
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 2: Stadium for that.

1182
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that seems possible. Now again, there's no titles involved.

1183
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: He can go and jump around and take whatever he

1184
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 1: wants and you can decide if you like that fight

1185
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: or not. But he's not holding anything up. He's not

1186
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 1: you know, there's he's not avoiding any mandatory anymore.

1187
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 2: Heaweight anymore. I don't think it's not the motor the

1188
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 2: order is going down with.

1189
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a good idea. And I do

1190
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 1: that again. I think he got in really good shape

1191
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: for this fight. I just don't know how much he

1192
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 1: can do that every fight here at that's.

1193
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 2: Probably the realization of I did the best I could

1194
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 2: at this fight in this perme of my career.

1195
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: Dude, at some point, like can you imagine like you

1196
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,720
Speaker 1: tried your absolute best it wasn't enough. Are you supposed

1197
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: to feel bad about yourself? You can feel bad about

1198
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,479
Speaker 1: the circumstances, you can feel bad about the result. But like, dude,

1199
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: it sounds simple, but it's what we teach our kids.

1200
00:52:59,440 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 2: I don't get that.

1201
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: If you give everything you have, why, like, what else

1202
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: was there to do? You did what you could?

1203
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 2: What's with this automatic just dunking on him? Of he

1204
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 2: you know from people saying he was never that, he

1205
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 2: was never the pomp for pond number one. He was

1206
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,280
Speaker 2: just the most popular fighter. No, he didn't beat killers

1207
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 2: at super Middleway. Well, he beat all the unbeaten champions,

1208
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, except for Benavitez, of course,

1209
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 2: and he did it quickly, right, And I mean there's

1210
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. He fought three to four times a

1211
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 2: year in his most recent prime, right, the one sixty

1212
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 2: eight prime, like he was great? Did he lose now

1213
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 2: three times against I mean, look, we all thought he

1214
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 2: lost at least once.

1215
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: Against Triplet, right, I thought he lost the first one, so.

1216
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 2: I thought he lost both, to be fair. But the

1217
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 2: four fighters he fought that were better than him, he

1218
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 2: lost to them. He's still in all time grades, still

1219
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,919
Speaker 2: in conversation for the best in Mexican history. I'm still

1220
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 2: going to keep fighting. But he met his match here.

1221
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 2: It came against a smaller fighter. But again, this was

1222
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 2: not a small That's the craziest thing to me, Like,

1223
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 2: it's not that we didn't know Bud was an inch

1224
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 2: taller with four inches longer arms, but because he put

1225
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 2: on the waight incrementally, and because inactivity doesn't seem to

1226
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 2: affect sometimes the great ones, right like you know, Ray

1227
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 2: Leonard coming back after three and a half years to

1228
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 2: beat Hagler. It's just wild. And by the way, the

1229
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 2: Hagler comparison, Hagler is considered sort of like the best

1230
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 2: switch hitter of all time.

1231
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: M hmm. It might be Bud, but isn't even switching.

1232
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 2: He's just going to South Paul out of nowhere and

1233
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 2: closing the fight out. And then in this case it

1234
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 2: was twelve full rounds of south paw and is somehow

1235
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 2: even better in some cases.

1236
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: Than he is. Id amazing that his two best wins

1237
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: came out of southpaw Spence spenc and Canelo. That's wild, dude.

1238
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: And again people are like, oh, but he can be

1239
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: you know, because you can make the argument, Well, maybe

1240
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 1: he's better out of Southpaw. Yes, I mean, clearly he's

1241
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: very adept at it. But I just want to point

1242
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: out that's not his natural stance or whatever else you

1243
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: want to say. He is normally, or at least the

1244
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: way he is if you ask him, you know, what

1245
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: is your conventional stance, it is in fact right handed,

1246
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: you know.

1247
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 2: Yeah. But notice no talk about rematch, which is a

1248
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 2: good thing. We don't need to rematch. Ye, Canello doesn't

1249
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 2: want to rematch.

1250
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: Figure. It was like, you know, you always have to

1251
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: ask yourself when the fight's over, is they're gonna be

1252
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: public demand for it? I don't think there's a lot

1253
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: of public demand for it, you know.

1254
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 2: And that's the only problem with Bud moving forward is

1255
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 2: there's no obvious next name unless they wanted to do

1256
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 2: something crazy with Canelo.

1257
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: Was the we talked about a pre fight. Canelo was

1258
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: the win where he made the boxing establishment say I'm him. Yep,

1259
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: they made he made him. They excuse me, he made

1260
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: them do it. But now that you've done it, it's like,

1261
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: how do you top this? There might be some ways,

1262
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 1: but it's not so clear. Whereas for whereas for Canelo, dude,

1263
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: I mean this frees him up. You want to go

1264
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: fight you Bank in London, Go do it. You want

1265
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: to go fight Jake Paul and fucking wherever, go do

1266
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: it like you can just go do whatever the fuck

1267
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 1: you want now.

1268
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:46,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw Nat Tony ferguson Na Diez tweeted Terrence

1269
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 2: Crawford with a target.

1270
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: Terrence Crawford, I mean, we all love nat wants his

1271
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: chance now too. We all love Nabi. What'd you think

1272
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: about Bud's walkout, by the way with the guitar?

1273
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 2: So it was kind of bad. I'm over the non

1274
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 2: Mexican fighters put on the Mexican gimmick, like you know,

1275
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 2: like with Floyd where the sombrero some and then now

1276
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 2: eighteen people have done that after him. But to then

1277
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 2: find out about Taporia. But then to find out the

1278
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 2: press conference that Terrence didn't know that was Taporia's song.

1279
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 1: Yes, so it was sort of an It was from

1280
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 1: the Desperado movie right were on the poster Antonio benderis

1281
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: by the way of Spanish now Mexican. I know the

1282
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 1: movie's but he has the guitar.

1283
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 2: It was badass. The tool thing. While while weird timed

1284
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,240
Speaker 2: was also mad as to me, the long gap between

1285
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 2: the comane and main event when it's already one am

1286
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 2: was not fun. But let's get into that because that

1287
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 2: is topic number three. It's looking at this event in general.

1288
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 2: We can't act like it wasn't a massive super fight.

1289
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 2: You had Netflix at the table. We're all interested in

1290
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 2: seeing the ratings here of how many people were watching

1291
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 2: live or if they stayed up for it. But I've

1292
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,919
Speaker 2: heard so many casuals knowing about this fight, watching this fight,

1293
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 2: being impressed by Terrence Crawford in this fight. This was

1294
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,919
Speaker 2: also the first TKO backed boxing event. You saw Dana

1295
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 2: White ringside, whether it looked like he was happy to

1296
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 2: be there or not. The stakeholders of Saudi Arabia were

1297
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 2: in place. In fact, uh Luke, we can take a

1298
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 2: quick look at the at the uh still photo here

1299
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 2: if you will, Luke Thomas of Turkey shadow Boxing Jason Statham.

1300
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 1: For is this the weirdest fucking group.

1301
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 2: That nightmare blunt rotation is?

1302
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the most nightmare blunt rotation. I mean, okay,

1303
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: if you had to smoke weed with one of them,

1304
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: it's Jason Statham, right.

1305
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 2: No doubt about it, right, I don't even know if

1306
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 2: has got to be mister Beast might be a part

1307
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 2: robotom lizard.

1308
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: At the same time, mister mister Beast and Turkey to

1309
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: me is I'm not like, I don't know, just just

1310
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: to know, you.

1311
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 5: Don't think mister Beast would be like, hit this blunt

1312
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 5: X amount of times and I'll give you X amount

1313
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 5: of money.

1314
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's ready to play squid games with the MK.

1315
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: There, let's just hold let leave us leave this picture

1316
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: off for a second. Do I have anything to report? No?

1317
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: Was there a lot of rumor mongering in Vegas on

1318
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: fight week that Dana and Turkey are beefing. Yes, there

1319
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: was that awkward moment at the end of the press conference. Yes,

1320
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: there there was a ton of rumor mongering that these

1321
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: two can't stand each other.

1322
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 2: Let's get into the overall picture here. I want you

1323
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 2: to grade the performance of this first event because there

1324
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 2: was a lot of expectations. There was a lot of

1325
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 2: pressure on UFC to maybe reinvent the wheel, to be

1326
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: fair right, and I know it didn't seem like everything

1327
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 2: UFC wanted to do was executed. There seemed to be

1328
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 2: a lot of Turkey influence in here. I don't know

1329
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 2: the inside story. I don't know how all those relationships work.

1330
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 2: But what do you think went right with the broadcast?

1331
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 2: What did you not like? How would you grade overall

1332
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 2: the appearance, the feel, the length, everything that went into

1333
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 2: UFC's full on jump into the Deep end debut in boxing.

1334
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: I think that there were many, many positives. I also

1335
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: think there's a lot to work on. Now let me

1336
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: say this. I talked to some folks who were, you know,

1337
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: had some understanding of how this broadcast worked. And my

1338
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: understanding is they wanted to do a certain kind of stuff,

1339
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: but dude, the Saudi influence where they're like, well, now

1340
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: we need to enter this part into the broadcast, and

1341
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: I want this guy shown on the broadcast, and I

1342
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: want this production element introduced into the broadcast. My understanding

1343
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: is there was a lot of that and it lengthened

1344
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: the broadcast to an absurd degree. First of all, unless

1345
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: you know you've got like Pitbull Cruise on the main card,

1346
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: three fights on the main card, four fights, dude, it

1347
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: should be a law. Okay, if your broadcast starts at

1348
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: X time, your main event must start not at three

1349
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: and a half four.

1350
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 2: I want to counter that if you're doing a fight

1351
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 2: on Netflix, which means you are aggressively railing in the

1352
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 2: casual visual fan.

1353
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: That's right.

1354
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 2: You cannot offer fights before that that are not bangers

1355
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 2: or some like this is the next biggest, Like if

1356
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 2: cermel Moton was on there in like a four rounder

1357
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 2: against nobody, even that would be like, here's the next

1358
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 2: big thing. Yes, So you got to give credit obviously

1359
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 2: for Christian Mabiley and Lester Martinez fought. There are balls off,

1360
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 2: great fight and that was great. But to open this

1361
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 2: card with a twenty one year old Saudi prospect who's

1362
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 2: like a four round guy, has one KO and five fights,

1363
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 2: and you put him in a ten round fight against

1364
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 2: a guy who's gonna quit boxing in two weeks and

1365
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 2: go join the army.

1366
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: Like, what are we doing? Dude, There's no way they

1367
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: put that fight on the beginning of Netflix broadcast.

1368
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 2: You're turning people away that are like, oh shit, Canela

1369
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 2: what he did?

1370
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: I don't know this for a fact. I would bet

1371
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: everything I owned that Turkey made them do that. I

1372
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: bet everything I owned Turkey made them do.

1373
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 2: And even though I didn't argue against Dani's choice of

1374
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 2: pushing Callum Walsh into that coman.

1375
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 1: That was fine.

1376
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 2: It just turned out that the fight sucked and they

1377
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 2: both really weren't ready.

1378
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: For the which is fine. He you know, like they

1379
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: could have.

1380
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 2: It was well matched, it was well marketed.

1381
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: I didn't care about that part. It didn't work, but whatever,

1382
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: So listen. The length of the broadcast was a problem.

1383
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: What what the fuck they were doing with Tool without Maynard?

1384
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what the fuck that was.

1385
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: That was kind of weird. I will say that I

1386
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: loved the walkouts, and dude, the quality of the Netflix

1387
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 1: picture on your screen is so fucking high. It looked

1388
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: literally on my TV, it literally looked beautiful.

1389
01:00:58,400 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 2: Let me let me, let me add on to that,

1390
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 2: the in arena production of the lights, the colors. When

1391
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 2: Bud came out, there were lights that made it look

1392
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 2: like there was an American flag across the crowd. When

1393
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 2: Canelo came out, you had the colors of the Mexican flag.

1394
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 2: That was the most impressive in stadium because look, we

1395
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 2: always say the ten minutes before.

1396
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: The radium boxing matches. Have you been to besides this one?

1397
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 2: I've been to Spensugas, CA. And I've not been in

1398
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 2: another one. But you know you've seen it on TV.

1399
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 2: And I'm saying from when I say stadium, I mean

1400
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 2: I didn't specifically mean stadiums or domes. I basically met

1401
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 2: the in arena experience that I've ever seen in boxing.

1402
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 2: This was that times a thousand. So they always say

1403
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 2: the most exciting time in boxing or the ten minutes

1404
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 2: before the bell rings for the main event, the walkouts,

1405
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 2: and that's true. You know, the anxiety, the feeling everyone's

1406
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 2: on their feet. Dude, the mariachi jam bands that were

1407
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 2: playing the enter. This was a ten out of a tent.

1408
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 2: So that's a credit to Netflix, to UFC and ZUFO

1409
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 2: Boxing's production team. Like that was tremendous. Yes, I totally

1410
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 2: agree with the Netflix signs around the ring and I.

1411
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 1: Just say that big ring apron where they've got the

1412
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: Netflix stuff, and then in the ring posts itself, I

1413
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 1: love that. Bring that back every single time it pushes

1414
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: the crowd back a little bit further. So, fucking what

1415
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 1: that is such a cool thing that they add to

1416
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: the broadcast. I love it.

1417
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 2: Part of why we assume there was a deeper power

1418
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 2: play going on is because what have we heard Dana

1419
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 2: say forever about the things he hates about boxing, the

1420
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 2: length of the cards, the podcast between you know fights,

1421
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 2: all that. I seeing Dana looking so unhappy at ringside

1422
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,479
Speaker 2: for the majority of this event without knowing what really

1423
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 2: went on, I have to believe that there were elements

1424
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 2: of this broadcast that he wasn't able to carry out

1425
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 2: to what he expected.

1426
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: There's no doubt in my mind that there's a broadcast

1427
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 1: that they wanted to do, and then there's the broadcast

1428
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: that they had to do, and as a consequence, it

1429
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: was way, way, way too long. Also, I will say this,

1430
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: when you've got a main event that's going to cost

1431
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty to two hundred million, you know

1432
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 1: that is going to limit who else you can put

1433
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 1: on the card. But as a general rule, I would

1434
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: like to see at least one other a bout of

1435
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you could say the Mbilli Martinez

1436
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 1: fight was a real significance, But you know, between that

1437
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: and then the main event, excuse me, the co main

1438
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 1: event not working, and then the opening about being a

1439
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 1: complete waste of everyone's time. You know, again, three fights

1440
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: on the main card if what you care about is

1441
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 1: the casual audience, and to the extent possible because sometimes

1442
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 1: sometimes we see the main event fighters or the A

1443
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: sides have a say in the timing of the event.

1444
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was in play in this one,

1445
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,439
Speaker 1: but it can happen. But to the extent possible. You got,

1446
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 1: It's not just what's the distance between the start time

1447
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 1: of the broadcast and the main event. The main event

1448
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 1: needs to start, in my opinion inboxing, no later than

1449
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 1: eleven thirty pm East Coast time.

1450
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 2: With you, I wonder if, like, did Canelo control certain

1451
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 2: terms of when he can come out? I mean, it

1452
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 2: looked like he was at odds too with the operation.

1453
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 2: Remember he was arguing with Max Kullerman earlier in the ranking.

1454
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, I don't know.

1455
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 2: It's hard to say, but maybe we'll From a ZUFA

1456
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 2: boxing standpoint, I'm sure it's going to be hard to

1457
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 2: judge their true impact, innovations, all of that until we

1458
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 2: see their series that Dana says is coming out.

1459
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 1: That's right. I mean I would say this, are there

1460
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: a bunch of positives to build off of totally? Did

1461
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 1: everything work? Absolutely not, But hardly any disaster, hardly any

1462
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 1: kind of failure. It's just this has got it dude,

1463
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: if you're Dana White and you've been talking so much

1464
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: shit about how boxing broadcasts have all these unnecessary elements,

1465
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 1: and he's right. I agree with him. You have to

1466
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 1: do something different. They didn't this time. Let's see if

1467
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 1: they do going forward.

1468
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 2: Knowing that these Netflix events, these fights on Netflix, whether

1469
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 2: it's Katie Taylor and Serrano, Jake Paul and Mike Tyson

1470
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 2: and now this, they're purposely made to it to bring

1471
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 2: in the casual audience. So are you okay with the

1472
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 2: over abundance of celebrity interviews of celebrity's position next to

1473
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 2: turkey at ringside? They're sort of rotating. It's like, yo, oh,

1474
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 2: there's Mark Wahlberg, there's this is that sort of the

1475
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 2: equivalent of like a super Bowl has all these other

1476
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 2: gimmicks to keep the housewives and you know engaged. Is

1477
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 2: a very generic way of saying it, but like stereotypical

1478
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 2: way of saying it. But do you think that's okay

1479
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 2: for these type of super Bowl type?

1480
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 1: I think for these kinds of events it is, because

1481
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: if you're really reaching the casual audience, that means you're

1482
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: probably gonna have a lot more women than you ordinarily

1483
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 1: would you might have a different kinds of demographics in

1484
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: terms of age or income. Who knows, and just sort

1485
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 1: of like, you know, running the gamut to see who's here.

1486
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: At Tracy Morgan's here, people still give a fuck, you know,

1487
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 1: but you know, whoever's there. I don't mind that. But like,

1488
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 1: here's the things that they were wasting, like Turkey talking

1489
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 1: to Max Kellerman about Saudi Arabia. I got it, gotta

1490
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 1: tell you, Okay, here's how often I want to hear

1491
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 1: from Turkey during any broadcast.

1492
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:38,959
Speaker 2: I know, not at all.

1493
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 1: I mean, Turkey, nobody wants to hear from you, Nobody, nobody.

1494
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 2: I think the problem is because he's him and his

1495
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 2: nation are paying for it.

1496
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 1: All.

1497
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 2: People in boxing were so quick from day one to

1498
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 2: induct him into the Nevada Boxing Hall of Fame and

1499
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 2: give him his flowers that now it's he feels he's

1500
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 2: bigger than it all.

1501
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:00,120
Speaker 1: But it's not just him. So for example, before the

1502
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 1: main event, I didn't think they did a bad job,

1503
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 1: but they go to Mario Lopez and Antonio Tarvar and

1504
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 1: I think Kregel and then cop and they like, let's

1505
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 1: get your main event picks.

1506
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 2: And I'm like let's not it's one am. Let's get

1507
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 2: to the need to.

1508
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: Hear what the fuck Mark Kriegel is or Mike Coppinger

1509
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 1: or who any of them. I love Antonio, but I

1510
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: just don't care. I want to fucking see the fight.

1511
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 2: I love Markregel by the way, really really great guy

1512
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 2: if you get to know him outside of it. There

1513
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 2: were a lot of critiques about certain elements. Look, I

1514
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 2: love the trio of Max Kellerman, andre Ward and John Annick,

1515
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 2: but Luke H. Kellerman received a lot of criticism. Some

1516
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 2: of it was Fight week, some of it was Fight Night.

1517
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 2: Even though it was great to hear Max back in

1518
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 2: his element doing what he loves, the amount of propaganda

1519
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 2: from him was out. Can we put that up one

1520
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 2: more time? I don't think Luke saw it because Luke's a.

1521
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 1: I'm finding a photo of Max Kellerman. I'm not blowing

1522
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:51,479
Speaker 1: off the show.

1523
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 2: Is it justified in totality from the broadcast to where

1524
01:06:56,120 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 2: people criticize Max for the way he asked questions post

1525
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 2: fight interviews, say what you will. As much as it

1526
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 2: was great to have him back hosting those ring live shows,

1527
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 2: doing a lot of stuff, I don't know how to

1528
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 2: fully explain or understand why the ass kissing slash. You know,

1529
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 2: if Turkey wasn't born, none of us would be here

1530
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 2: type thing was so damn outrageous, over the top.

1531
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 1: How do you even I got a picture of Max

1532
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 1: talking about like all they just doing a bunch of shilling,

1533
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: and you might be saying, well, how can you really

1534
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 1: tell you know what that means for Max by a picture?

1535
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 1: But here here's the picture, and I feel like it's

1536
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 1: pretty good, right, This is y This is Max Kellerman

1537
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 1: talking about Max is.

1538
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 2: The reason why I felt being a talking head in

1539
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 2: boxing was ever gonna be possible.

1540
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 1: That's exactly what This is the best So this was

1541
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: This was to me, the most dispiriting part about this

1542
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 1: was number one. Early in the broadcast, when I was

1543
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 1: listening to Max, I was like, wow, he sounds like

1544
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 1: the same old Max, Like this is great. And then

1545
01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: again you do the live show and you miss a

1546
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 1: lot of the cometary, which is where I think later

1547
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 1: on in the card is where most of the stuff

1548
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 1: he said became objectionable. But the issue for me is

1549
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 1: he didn't do this in his HBO boxing days.

1550
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 2: No, he's the opposite.

1551
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: He was the opposite dude. When it was HBO, it

1552
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 1: was him, Lampley and Roy Jones. I remember as an

1553
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 1: MMA fan watching these broadcasts and listening to Max and

1554
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 1: Jim in particular kill the promoter for any kind of

1555
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: malfeasance or you know, saying stupid stuff.

1556
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:30,680
Speaker 2: And you can't do that in the modern days. That

1557
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 2: was a sort of a special HBO box.

1558
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 1: Fine, fine, you don't have to, But like, how many

1559
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 1: times did Max mention the BMF belt? Max, what the

1560
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 1: fuck are we doing, dude? Nobody needs you. Guys complain

1561
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 1: about the alphabet system in boxing with good reason and

1562
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 1: now you want to introduce a fucking BMF belt in boxing?

1563
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 1: What are we talking about here? This is absurd. More

1564
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 1: to the point, BC, Aside from that, I thought that Jim,

1565
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 1: excuse me, I thought that John Annick actually did a

1566
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 1: very good job. Let me ask you this though, What

1567
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 1: did you make of the criticism of boxing fans, which was, hey,

1568
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 1: John actually sounds pretty good, But they would argue he

1569
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 1: just sounds like the voice of the UFC. I understand.

1570
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: I didn't feel that way. I mean, I agree he

1571
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 1: is the voice of the UFC in that sense, but

1572
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 1: like I didn't feel like it was an impediment because

1573
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 1: I thought he gelled really well with them right.

1574
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 2: Also, if you don't know John's history, he came up

1575
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 2: in boxing. He hosted a boxing radio show. He was

1576
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 2: at all the pay per views in Vegas for that show.

1577
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 2: He called boxing championship fights on ESPN before he completely

1578
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 2: made the switch to MMA and then got hired by UFC. Also,

1579
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 2: I thought he really controlled traffic and performed very well

1580
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 2: considering the first time this trios together, first time Kellerman

1581
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 2: was calling fights in seven years. So all in all,

1582
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 2: I mean even people were ripping that one moment where

1583
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 2: they put the live camera on the ringside and John's like, hey,

1584
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 2: Andre and Max, you can talk to me, And people

1585
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 2: are like thinking there's some fighting going on. Due that's

1586
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 2: just John is working with largely UFC production people. Those

1587
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 2: guys are not used to this broadcast. He's just letting

1588
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 2: them know, like hey.

1589
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 1: He knows all the producers around him on set there

1590
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 1: as well. But getting back to Kellerman a little bit,

1591
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 1: I also felt like he was a little rusty, So

1592
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give him partially the benefit of the doubt.

1593
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 2: I don't want to kill him for the post by

1594
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 2: injuries A lot of people thought he was well he.

1595
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 1: Was a little bit. Yes, well he So what he

1596
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 1: does is he gets he asks a question, he gets

1597
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 1: an answer. He does two things. One he kind of

1598
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:24,759
Speaker 1: waits a long time before he gets to the next question,

1599
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 1: which I don't mind. But he did it a little long,

1600
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 1: but that's not a big deal.

1601
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 2: So well, a million people in the ring. Do you see

1602
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 2: bull neck at that point? Yell at the cameras, go

1603
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 2: get away.

1604
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 1: For it was like when I saw a Wu Tang

1605
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 1: clan in concert. They were a hundred keys people the

1606
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 1: way I know you can tell it wasn't a Daniel

1607
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 1: Widemann for that reason. But the other part to MEBC

1608
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 1: was the preamble he would go into in these questions,

1609
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 1: being like, Bud, we all know you have fucked every

1610
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 1: guy's wife in here. How does it feel to be

1611
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 1: the chief whif fucker? Let's talk about all the ways

1612
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 1: in which you have fucked their wives. Also your reaction

1613
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 1: to winning tonight, It's like, what is up with this

1614
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 1: fucking amble that we're doing.

1615
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 2: You got a lot of opinions online. Here's the keis

1616
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 2: of Bederian of MVP, who also has done some work

1617
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 2: on Netflix. Has another great Netflix production and broadcast team.

1618
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 2: John Anick was amazing, andre.

1619
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:13,839
Speaker 1: Wardo was as usual.

1620
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 2: Only out of the was Max Kellerman saying the same

1621
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 2: scripted narrative one hundred and eight times.

1622
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:19,440
Speaker 1: Did you go back and listen to the broadcast?

1623
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 2: I actually was listening to the broadcast from press row

1624
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 2: for every fight except for the main event, because I

1625
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 2: wanted to not be distracted and be completely dialed. So,

1626
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 2: just to be fair, you never know where you're going

1627
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:32,799
Speaker 2: to be seated as a boxing press eight person anymore,

1628
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 2: you know it automatically was always ringside for years. Then

1629
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 2: in recent years they started to follow more of the

1630
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 2: Eddie Hearn European trend. In Europe they put the media

1631
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,680
Speaker 2: up in the upper deck, in the crowd with no workspace.

1632
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 2: They've been starting to move obviously, the American media at

1633
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 2: these fights, even in Vegas, out deeper on the floor,

1634
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 2: which can make it harder to truly score a round

1635
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 2: by round or have a feel of what's going on.

1636
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 2: For this they put us like up in the crowd.

1637
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 2: Now it's still the top of the first level, but

1638
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 2: in a dome we were far away, so I'm scoring

1639
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:02,639
Speaker 2: the fight, to be honest with you off of the screens.

1640
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 2: Everybody that's in my area watching off of the screens.

1641
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 2: But I did listen to the broadcast. I align with

1642
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 2: a lot of these. I don't mind Max playing team

1643
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 2: ball once or twice and saying, look, there is an

1644
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 2: opportunity here with all of these power players to make

1645
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 2: a new boxing for the future, and here's the kickoff

1646
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 2: for that. I don't mind doing that. He's work, He's there,

1647
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 2: he's working for the powers that be. These days, there

1648
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 2: is no editorial like HBO Boxing and Larry Merchant established

1649
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 2: it's not there anymore. You're not gonna work for the

1650
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 2: for the promoter anymore because the promoters are aligned so

1651
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 2: aggressively with the networks. But this was ad.

1652
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 1: Nauseo and it works for the same people, right, And

1653
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:42,720
Speaker 1: he wasn't doing any of that now.

1654
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 2: To top all this, are you against even though Saudi

1655
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 2: paid for everything here that every person in the crowd

1656
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 2: at Allegiant Stadium received a program which was cool, and

1657
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:54,640
Speaker 2: a copy of Ring magazine, which is cool, and a

1658
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 2: Saudi Arabian travel brochure.

1659
01:12:58,360 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 1: I mean, once again, I don't know what to say.

1660
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 1: If they're going to pay for it, it's their show.

1661
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 1: They can do it in that sense, I don't have

1662
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 1: a problem with it. But in the sense that these

1663
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 1: events are used to launder a murderous dictatorial government, yeah,

1664
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 1: I do have a problem with that. But you know,

1665
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 1: I guess we don't really care anymore, so I don't

1666
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 1: know what to say.

1667
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that's the situation. Shout out to Sir

1668
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 2: Heey Boachuk and Brandon Adams. They had the rematch in

1669
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 2: the featured pre limit.

1670
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 1: I didn't see any thirty six year.

1671
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 2: Old Brandon Adams beat him a second time, got inside

1672
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 2: on him. It was a fun action fight that should

1673
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 2: have been the opener on the main car.

1674
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 1: Kicked at dude, you saw a Saudi guy who was

1675
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:31,679
Speaker 1: no fucking good.

1676
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess he was switched his opponent like

1677
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:34,560
Speaker 2: a week before.

1678
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 1: They put him on the main car. Why do you

1679
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 1: think he's there? Turkey put him again? I don't know that.

1680
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 1: I'm going to guess Turkey put him there.

1681
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's fairly obvious. All right, let's transition here.

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Speaker 2: Along island, Luke, I did want you to sprinkle on

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Speaker 2: here just to close. When talking about UFC's kickoff into boxing,

1736
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 2: were you impressed by the Netflix broadcast at all?

1737
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:15,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, like Luke said, I thought it looked really good.

1738
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:17,719
Speaker 5: I was thinking that the whole time. It was very crisp.

1739
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,679
Speaker 5: It was smooth. In the past on these Netflix ones,

1740
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 5: Taylor Serrano, I had offering issues, streaming issues, stuff like that,

1741
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 5: so I got no complaints.

1742
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 2: Man, it was a smooth I'm interested to see what

1743
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 2: these I mean. Turkey has already tweeted that it's the

1744
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 2: most watch boxing event in history, Luke, I don't know

1745
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 2: that it's possible that it already is.

1746
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 1: But what is the most watch boxing.

1747
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 2: I think it's generally considered to be. It depends how

1748
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 2: you do it right. So the Muhammad Ali Leon Spinks

1749
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 2: rematch in nineteen seventy eight at the Superdome in New Orleans,

1750
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 2: was bought by ABC and it got ninety million viewers

1751
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 2: at a time when people were tied to their you know,

1752
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 2: six channels or whatever they had. So that's insane, right.

1753
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, what was the US population in seventy when

1754
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 1: you look that up?

1755
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 2: But Tyson versus Paul just recently on Netflix did sixty

1756
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 2: something million concurrent one hundred something million total viewers, So

1757
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 2: I don't I'm gonna guess that they overachieved here, but

1758
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 2: overachieving still might be like fifty million, right.

1759
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:11,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, nineteen seventy eight there were two hundred and

1760
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 1: twenty two million people, so ninety million is almost not

1761
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 1: quite half the country. Yeah, that's that's insane.

1762
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:18,639
Speaker 2: That is I mean, Muhammli was at a different level

1763
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:20,720
Speaker 2: than Canelo, you know, or all that will ever be yet.

1764
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 2: All right, let's transition out of boxing here and get

1765
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:24,640
Speaker 2: into mixed martial arts, and there was a lot to

1766
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 2: talk about there.

1767
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, my, you know what, that main event was fun.

1768
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 2: That main event was an absolute banger. I mean, we

1769
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 2: just started dating, right, I hope. So Hey, this third

1770
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 2: ever noch UFC event took place in San Antonio, wasn't

1771
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 2: a pay per view, wasn't an overly loaded card, but

1772
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 2: certainly had some moments and had a featherweight main event

1773
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 2: that was muscy on paper, was insanely musty after the

1774
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 2: fact if you missed it. A thriller as Diego Lopez

1775
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:54,640
Speaker 2: bounces back from his vacant title loss to Alexander Volkanowski

1776
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 2: by continuing to bury the Fighting Nerds trajectory of late

1777
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 2: by taking on the favorite Lord G and Silva back

1778
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 2: and forth, bloody, and suddenly in round two it is

1779
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 2: viciously over a spinning back elbow from Diego Lopez, who

1780
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 2: took some damage to start that round after sort of

1781
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,639
Speaker 2: dominating the first round in full mount for half of it.

1782
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 2: What a wild turn of events, Luke, What did Diego

1783
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 2: Lopez prove with this victory? Did it prove that he's

1784
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 2: still near the top of this division? We could say

1785
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 2: a lot about what this means for the Fighting Nerds,

1786
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 2: but right off the top. For Diego Lopez to weather

1787
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 2: that storm and then beat Silva with the same type

1788
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 2: of dynamic highlight reel strikes that he was getting hit with,

1789
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 2: what does this say about him coming off of that

1790
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 2: title loss.

1791
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a little bit concerned about him after

1792
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 1: the Volkanovsky loss because of what it did to him

1793
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:46,680
Speaker 1: in terms of showing how limited some of his positioning

1794
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 1: in the cage is. And you know, as I mentioned,

1795
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 1: sometimes you get these guys in title fights and then

1796
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 1: they come out afterwards and they're still missing a step.

1797
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 1: But there was none of that with Diego Lopez. He

1798
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:59,879
Speaker 1: absolutely proved he was very elite. And the chin well.

1799
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 2: He got hit with a highlight reel slew right.

1800
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 1: And how about that front kick right underneath it, those.

1801
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 2: Three piece combinations, I mean, everything was landed on.

1802
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 1: The thing that was so impressive to MEBC was we

1803
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 1: knew his ground game was good, but the addition of

1804
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 1: his wrestling skill now where he waited for the spin, which,

1805
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 1: by by the way, you could tell that they had

1806
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 1: planned that right. So you wait for the spin, you

1807
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 1: go to the body lock, you matt return him to

1808
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 1: the to the floor, and then you immediately assume a

1809
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 1: dominant position. And then you can hold the dominant position

1810
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 1: because of how good your grappling skills are. Beats the

1811
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 1: living shit out of him for most of that round. Now,

1812
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 1: there was a little bit of a rebound towards the

1813
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:38,560
Speaker 1: end of the first and then in the second, I

1814
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 1: thought Silva was doing great. So like to me, the

1815
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 1: lesson here was BC, are there still known limits to

1816
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 1: Diego Lopez's game? Yes, at range, Silva was busting them up.

1817
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 1: That's just a fact. And as you saw in the

1818
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 1: fight with Volkanovsky, the positioning issues can be quite real. However,

1819
01:19:56,760 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 1: he's got offense everywhere he had. He's so dangerous in close.

1820
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 1: Remember at UFC three hundred when Sadik Yussef was in

1821
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,679
Speaker 1: the clinch, they break clinch for a minute and boom,

1822
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 1: that shot comes right over from him, like he if

1823
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 1: you are like, if we're at kicking range, it's a

1824
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 1: different ballgame. We're at striking range with punches. Still, it

1825
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 1: depends on who he's fighting. But Silva was better there,

1826
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 1: But you get into clinch range or all the things

1827
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 1: that happened in the grapling department, he was way better

1828
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 1: than Silva and was, I think, honestly, very surprising with

1829
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:35,480
Speaker 1: his own spinning attacks. Dude, Diego Lopez has off fence everywhere.

1830
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 1: It's dangerous.

1831
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 2: I don't want to say that saved him, but him

1832
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 2: landing that strike at that moment and a fight that

1833
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 2: he had had highs and lows. I think he holds

1834
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 2: serve and then some him as an elite fighter in

1835
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 2: this division, like because he in so many ways.

1836
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 1: And also I want to be clear, like, dude, he

1837
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 1: used Silva's pressure against him, Yes, he weaponized all this.

1838
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:56,080
Speaker 1: He knew this guy was going to be charging hard

1839
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 1: the whole time, so they had attacks ready.

1840
01:20:58,320 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, nasty mustache too.

1841
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 1: He got the like a nineteen eighties high school football coach,

1842
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 1: and he's got ten haircuts at the same time, which

1843
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:07,560
Speaker 1: I don't quite understand. But that's another thing going. But

1844
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 1: the one I'm trying to make is dude, Like, I

1845
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 1: think that I want to be clear, like, oh, all

1846
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 1: the limits that we saw in the Vulc fight are gone. No, No,

1847
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 1: not necessarily. But what I can say is is he

1848
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 1: taking some of his existing strengths like grappling and then

1849
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 1: building on them with improved wrestling. Yes, And he is

1850
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 1: always ready to go for offense. He's always in a

1851
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 1: position to throw or to strike or to you know,

1852
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 1: to clinch or to you know, you name it. He's

1853
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 1: always ready to attack. So if you're pressuring him, dude,

1854
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:45,559
Speaker 1: Vulc it showed had exactly the right approach. Diego Lopez

1855
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 1: is so dangerous you kind of want to keep him

1856
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:50,759
Speaker 1: at your range and chip away at him. Silva wanted

1857
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:52,600
Speaker 1: to just you know, you know, I'm gonna like a

1858
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 1: Visa goth running down the fucking hill. I'm gonna go

1859
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:57,679
Speaker 1: after him. You can't fight that dude that way. You can't.

1860
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 2: Are you with me? That if that perfect spinning elbow

1861
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 2: didn't land when it did that, this this was heading

1862
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 2: into fight of the air territory. This was heading into

1863
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 2: just some batschit craziness.

1864
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:12,679
Speaker 1: I think that Silva did show me he's dangerous at range,

1865
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 1: really dangerous at range. But I don't know how much

1866
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 1: longer that fight would have lasted in any case, you

1867
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

1868
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 2: Let's see the before and after of both fighters. Here's

1869
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 2: the handshake to start the fight, dude. Look there it

1870
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 2: is afterwards.

1871
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 1: Mass a question they couldn't get a towel for this guy? Dude?

1872
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 2: I think it just kept leaking. I mean, have you

1873
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 2: got to be honest, You've never seen an elbow land

1874
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 2: like that spinning one did, and then see that much

1875
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 2: blood flow all over the canvas, the arms, the land.

1876
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen some pretty bad elbows.

1877
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 2: That was wild. So Lord Gan Silva's intensity kind of

1878
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 2: worked again. I mean he was out of control, intense

1879
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 2: from the stare down with the wife before, and I

1880
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:52,879
Speaker 2: know she plays a big part in his camp and

1881
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 2: in making him the man he is, as the woman

1882
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 2: behind every great man should be, or that doesn't have

1883
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 2: to be behind. But that's the old thing. Not trying

1884
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 2: to dig misogynistic coles for myself here, but Luke. Then

1885
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 2: he did the same thing with Bruce Buffer in such

1886
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:05,680
Speaker 2: a out of control.

1887
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:07,520
Speaker 1: To be honest, that made me uncomfortable.

1888
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 2: Round two then after being on the ground of full

1889
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 2: mountain taking a beating, he had great success, but it

1890
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 2: was wild great success. It was just constant, like it's

1891
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:17,680
Speaker 2: like when you play the UFC video game and you

1892
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 2: hit like the four buttons together that create like the

1893
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 2: spinny shit. Dude, he's just throwing like murderous shit left

1894
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 2: and right. Is that sustainable at the elite level?

1895
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 10: No?

1896
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 1: I think Silva was shown up here a little bit.

1897
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 1: I think that if my takeaway is anything, it's like, Okay,

1898
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 1: I did not his grappling against Bryce, I had said,

1899
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:39,680
Speaker 1: was somewhat vetted. Yeah, but it's not vetted enough. He

1900
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 1: had real problems with it, and again partly facilitated by

1901
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:46,679
Speaker 1: the spinning attacks, which did not need to happen because

1902
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 1: you saw he got taken down in the second round,

1903
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 1: but he got up much quicker in the second round,

1904
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 1: so it wasn't nearly as bad. But the fact that

1905
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 1: he spins like and is just so aggressive with it

1906
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 1: and is just trying to live in a flow state.

1907
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 1: These are defensive liability.

1908
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:00,640
Speaker 2: He almost hit so many of those, dude, like or

1909
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 2: sometimes he did hit it that I'll like.

1910
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 1: Yes, sometimes again he's dangerous and he's yeah, you know

1911
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 1: he's dangerous, But dude, this games where you're like, I'm

1912
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:13,799
Speaker 1: trying to be in some kind of fight artistic flow state,

1913
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:17,759
Speaker 1: and I like you like dude. Emmanuel Augustus is remembered

1914
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 1: for his style, not for the bodies of resume of

1915
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 1: names on his resume, and Silver kind of reminds me

1916
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 1: of that he's got this kind of I mean, not

1917
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 1: to the same degree he has in this insane, very

1918
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 1: fun style, but dude, that's not gonna work on Vulcan

1919
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 1: and it didn't work on Diego Lopez, and I have

1920
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 1: a feeling it's definitely not going to work on Mosar

1921
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 1: And if you want maybe others as well, Al jam

1922
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:42,839
Speaker 1: you think that's it's going to work on Aljabn. Aljaman

1923
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 1: is not going to play this fucking game with you

1924
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 1: like these are these are fun antics, Like there's a

1925
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:49,680
Speaker 1: question about the fighting airsuction. Well, no, we'll get to

1926
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:53,759
Speaker 1: But the point is you can play these games against

1927
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 1: decent to maybe even good opponents. You cannot do that

1928
01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 1: against the top of the division. They are absolutely ruthless

1929
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:02,720
Speaker 1: with how they will audit what's wrong with you? And

1930
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:04,200
Speaker 1: he got fucking audited.

1931
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 2: Whether the timing is fair or not. Silva's loss plays

1932
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 2: into the larger narrative that the fighting nerds exploded on

1933
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 2: the scene were as exciting as possible, and Silva's case

1934
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 2: in these winds showing like all this joy and craziness

1935
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 2: in a positive way. And now as each have stepped up,

1936
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 2: with the exception of old the Shayshak since coming to

1937
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 2: their camp, we've seen them now lose. Let's first hear

1938
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 2: from Diego Lopez, who had, you know, a lot of

1939
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 2: sort of pre fight hectic issues with Silva when they

1940
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 2: crossed paths at the hotel there in San Antonio. Here's

1941
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 2: the message he gave to the fighting nerds after the fight.

1942
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:36,559
Speaker 13: What was that emotion like right after the fight looked

1943
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 13: like he maybe tried to punch you. What was going

1944
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 13: on there?

1945
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's like, hey, I'm surprised this too, Like I

1946
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 7: feel they punched my back my head, I mean Antonio

1947
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:50,720
Speaker 7: like he is he puts me in my in back

1948
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 7: of my head. No, I'm not understanding for why. Uh,

1949
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 7: but it's okay. This is the maybe the emotional this

1950
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:00,839
Speaker 7: timing because this guy is that a little bit hungry

1951
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 7: for because he loosed the fight. No, but but it's okay.

1952
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 7: I feel good now this is my moments like he uh,

1953
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:15,640
Speaker 7: the people's no.

1954
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:15,799
Speaker 4: Victoria.

1955
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 13: I'm not gonna pay for the price for for my victory.

1956
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna pay that price for the victory.

1957
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 13: You jumped up on the cage. You were flipping off

1958
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:23,679
Speaker 13: some people. What was that about?

1959
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 7: Like this is your training partners. It's like before I'm

1960
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 7: interested in the octagon. Just the coopman put the vast

1961
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 7: in my in my face. You you your train contness

1962
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:39,839
Speaker 7: a lot like oh you die today, this guy killed you?

1963
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 7: You saw Sorry, guys, your socks this guy knocked you out,

1964
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 7: like talk a lot of a lot of bad worlds,

1965
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:50,680
Speaker 7: you know. Yeah, after it is okay, it's okay, you know,

1966
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 7: But after I finished the fac and go and go

1967
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 7: to face the your training partners, sorry, I I show

1968
01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 7: my things for these guys.

1969
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 13: What advice would you give him now that he suffered

1970
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 13: his first loss in the UFC.

1971
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 1: Yes, in UFC.

1972
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1973
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 7: Maybe maybe train more out less more.

1974
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 2: I want to say, I'm not protecting jan Silva Fro

1975
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 2: hitting that rabbit punch after the fight ended, which you know,

1976
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 2: back in the day, you can get you can lose

1977
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 2: your job for that. Although I think it was fueled

1978
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 2: by the idea that after the stoppage, did you notice

1979
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 2: that Diego Lopez kneeled right next to Silva and started

1980
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 2: to talk to the team members of Silva like he

1981
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 2: was like scolding them. And I think Lord Silva kind

1982
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 2: of came to saw that and then got up and

1983
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 2: thought that he was, you know whatever. But separate from

1984
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:51,679
Speaker 2: the theatrics that happened afterwards, Silva is an emotional fighter

1985
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:53,640
Speaker 2: and he got can cussed. Probably I'm not going to

1986
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 2: jump on him for that. Is this a complete referendum?

1987
01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 2: On who the fighting nerds are or did they just

1988
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 2: kind of explode too quickly and everyone kind of needs

1989
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 2: a humbling loss to continue to climb that ladder.

1990
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is not the I mean if

1991
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 1: the team was like, hey, we're going to exist until

1992
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:13,559
Speaker 1: noce UFC, and then we're not going to exist anymore,

1993
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 1: you could judge like what the team did, but it's

1994
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 1: not over. However, at the same time, I don't know

1995
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 1: how you can look at these results and come to

1996
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:25,519
Speaker 1: any other conclusion. Then their success is not accidental. They

1997
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 1: are good and they're a lot of fun. I think

1998
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 1: that's very clear. I'm glad, dude. They brought a certain

1999
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 1: kind of levity with the glasses and the antics, like

2000
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 1: all that part of the Fight Games theater is really fun.

2001
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 1: But if you guys want to be champions, well clearly

2002
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 1: you're not ready. There's more to be done. So they're

2003
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:46,599
Speaker 1: not frauds by any search of the imagination. They can

2004
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:49,600
Speaker 1: beat guys certainly outside the top fifteen and for the

2005
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 1: most part, outside the top ten, but once you get

2006
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:55,599
Speaker 1: to the top seven, they fall apart. They fall apart.

2007
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 1: After that, they got to work on more wrestling, They

2008
01:28:57,400 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 1: got to work on wrestling. They have to work on

2009
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 1: a lot of other parts of their game. Let's see,

2010
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 1: there's some of them, many of not all of them,

2011
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:05,679
Speaker 1: but many of them are still fairly young. They've reached

2012
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 1: their existing limit. Can they change their limits? That's the

2013
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 1: question going forward.

2014
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 2: We got one more piece of Lopez talking about how

2015
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 2: he lured g and Silva into that stuff.

2016
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 7: No trusting it for you knocking me out. It's like

2017
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 7: it's so hard. I feel your points. It's like it's

2018
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 7: not too hard for the people watching the TV, you know,

2019
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 7: because for this Okay, this guy pointing me, I tell

2020
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 7: I take here for the confidence for this guy for

2021
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 7: the front. After this guy go to advanced time, go

2022
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 7: to forebow. It's like, it is like it this is

2023
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 7: my plan. I have videos in the backstage.

2024
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 6: So that was the strategy this whole time was to

2025
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 6: lure John Silva and the thinking that he was connecting

2026
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 6: with you and then you were gonna throw the spinning elbow.

2027
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, because this guy after connect to one point, this

2028
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:50,679
Speaker 7: guy have a confidency for for to go for for finish.

2029
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 7: I have it now time for finish. But it's not no,

2030
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:58,560
Speaker 7: it's me. I know the people know the people know

2031
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:02,400
Speaker 7: have the idea this, but Tim supposed you'll punch this

2032
01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 7: guy's standing out a lout your yos, this guy cheat up. No,

2033
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:09,000
Speaker 7: it's like I usually this.

2034
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 6: Time for so he was over extending his punches.

2035
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I have time.

2036
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:16,760
Speaker 2: Look, I do think they needed a translator after that

2037
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 2: main event. I know, Fabiano Busque was busy, and he

2038
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:22,280
Speaker 2: did a tremendous job at the Crawford Canelo event and

2039
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 2: during all week.

2040
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, they brought out the translating goat.

2041
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:28,320
Speaker 2: From he delivered. Believe me, I wish they would have

2042
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:30,400
Speaker 2: had one afterwards, just because Lopez was trying to talk

2043
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 2: to the crowd in Spanish and then was having trouble

2044
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 2: relate that. But he says those punches from the strikes

2045
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:36,920
Speaker 2: from Silver were not affecting him. They were not hard.

2046
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 2: They looked pretty hard.

2047
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 1: I gotta say, even if that's one of those things

2048
01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:41,880
Speaker 1: where it's like it wasn't very hard, well, first of

2049
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:44,040
Speaker 1: all looked that way, and second of all, the judges

2050
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 1: would have scored it that way had it.

2051
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:47,360
Speaker 2: Continued damage on his face or not not much.

2052
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:52,760
Speaker 1: Silva definitely looked worse, but but you know, he got

2053
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:53,360
Speaker 1: touched up to.

2054
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 2: All right, Let's go to topic number five, which is

2055
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:58,360
Speaker 2: the rest of this notch ESPN card or no sorry,

2056
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:00,759
Speaker 2: no j a UFC card which did air on ESPN

2057
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 2: and did end perfectly right before the main card of

2058
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 2: Conelo Crawford, as UFC was double dipping on this night,

2059
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:10,080
Speaker 2: but for starters Luke first and foremost not Cha. UFC

2060
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 2: began as a as a non pay per view going

2061
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 2: up against a boxing pay per view when chef Chenko

2062
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 2: and Grosso had their rematch in a pretty good card.

2063
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:21,880
Speaker 2: Evolved to the damn sphere last year in a pay

2064
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 2: per view going head to head with Canelo. This year,

2065
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 2: we know the mitigating circumstances that led to it being

2066
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:29,280
Speaker 2: moved out of Mexico, moved off of pay per view

2067
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 2: put on earlier in the night. Would you like to

2068
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 2: see moving forward, however, that if UFC is going to

2069
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:36,519
Speaker 2: go to this level and I like all the little

2070
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 2: touches that they do for no Cha, from the outfits

2071
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:41,280
Speaker 2: of the ring card girls to everything I mean they

2072
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:44,600
Speaker 2: do right, everything is pretty damn cool. Would you like

2073
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:46,840
Speaker 2: to see this be a numbered event that gets priority.

2074
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:49,080
Speaker 2: Can we forgive them for this year at just being

2075
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:51,280
Speaker 2: sort of thrown in? This was not a great card

2076
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:54,160
Speaker 2: on paper in terms of what you'd expect. What do

2077
01:31:54,200 --> 01:31:55,639
Speaker 2: you think this should be moving?

2078
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:58,920
Speaker 1: I just don't know what not cha UFC means to UFC.

2079
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:02,840
Speaker 2: Right, doesn't mean UFC night if you translate what I mean.

2080
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:04,680
Speaker 1: What I mean is, how can it be that like

2081
01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:07,479
Speaker 1: one year you got a title fight and then the

2082
01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 1: next year it's like this gigantic event at the Sphere,

2083
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 1: and then the next year it's.

2084
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:19,360
Speaker 2: Like, I mean, answer that subtly Turkey paid for that

2085
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 2: massive event last year at the Sphere and now he's

2086
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:23,160
Speaker 2: paying for this massive Canelo Crawford fighting.

2087
01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:25,680
Speaker 1: I get it, But I'm saying, like UFC has to

2088
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:28,679
Speaker 1: Here's what I would say. I don't think it needs

2089
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:30,360
Speaker 1: to be a numbered event, not that I would complain

2090
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:32,760
Speaker 1: if it was. But what it needs to be is

2091
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:36,719
Speaker 1: something consistent. What is it that? What does notcha UFC

2092
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:39,080
Speaker 1: mean for UFC in terms of the card they build

2093
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 1: and the stakes involved? Because I do like the Mexican

2094
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:45,479
Speaker 1: element of it. I do like the story there again

2095
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 1: to the way it changes the broadcast. I like all

2096
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:49,519
Speaker 1: this stuff. I have no problem with any of it.

2097
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:51,200
Speaker 1: In fact, I think it's a great thing that they're

2098
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:54,679
Speaker 1: doing it. I just can't figure out what Notcha UFC

2099
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 1: is other than sometimes it's a way to rebrand in

2100
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:02,639
Speaker 1: ordinary fight night. The main event was great. I think

2101
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 1: this is a super fine main event. But one more time.

2102
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:08,880
Speaker 1: All the previous Notchia UFC events had title fights. This

2103
01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:12,640
Speaker 1: one didn't. And there weren't that many Mexicans on it.

2104
01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:14,559
Speaker 1: There were a fair amount of Latinos, but there weren't

2105
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:15,960
Speaker 1: very many Mexicans on it.

2106
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:20,479
Speaker 2: Should it be an annual fight night in Mexico? Should

2107
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:22,639
Speaker 2: it be an annual pay per view? Regardless of whether

2108
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 2: you loaded up with Latin fighters? Like, what do you

2109
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:24,840
Speaker 2: think it should be?

2110
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:27,080
Speaker 1: Here's my opinion as a white guy who's not Latin

2111
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:27,920
Speaker 1: but is a fight fan.

2112
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:31,439
Speaker 2: But you are a pseudo Latino man, pseudo very suited,

2113
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:36,320
Speaker 2: pasi very wanna be very very pseudo very wannabe.

2114
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:39,800
Speaker 1: I don't care when they put it, but as long

2115
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:44,240
Speaker 1: as you're gonna make it, make it consistent, right, what's no?

2116
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:45,840
Speaker 2: You gave the same tone of when you said that

2117
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:47,439
Speaker 2: you don't care if somebody lives or dies. So I'm

2118
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:48,920
Speaker 2: basically like, yeah, this is where it's at.

2119
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:50,760
Speaker 1: Well, I just mean, like, could they put it in

2120
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:53,799
Speaker 1: may or single Demayo, which I realized is an American holiday,

2121
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:55,599
Speaker 1: not necessarily a Mexican but it's kind of a Mexican

2122
01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 1: American holiday or event to us. Could they put it there?

2123
01:33:59,439 --> 01:34:00,599
Speaker 1: Could you put it any other night?

2124
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 2: Sure?

2125
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:02,639
Speaker 1: You could put it whenever you want, Like, it doesn't

2126
01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 1: have to be on September or May. That's my only

2127
01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:08,600
Speaker 1: thing is whenever you do it, have some level of

2128
01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:09,400
Speaker 1: consistency for you.

2129
01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:11,840
Speaker 2: Remember that scene in Cruel Attentions when Sarah Michelle Geller

2130
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:12,959
Speaker 2: was like, you can put it anywhere.

2131
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 1: I've never seen cruel Intentions? Am I missing out?

2132
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:18,200
Speaker 2: Wow?

2133
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:19,479
Speaker 1: Wow? Not missing out?

2134
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:19,760
Speaker 2: Wow?

2135
01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 5: You are missing out that?

2136
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 7: Yeah?

2137
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:22,720
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you?

2138
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:24,839
Speaker 2: Come on, yes, especially for the nineties.

2139
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:27,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, how about what was the movie where Denise Richards

2140
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 1: kissed what's your face?

2141
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 9: Oh?

2142
01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:29,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, Wild Things?

2143
01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 1: Yeah right?

2144
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 2: Also, Luke, this co main event. We did not get

2145
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:36,120
Speaker 2: chewee weis on there, but we did get a David

2146
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 2: Martinez filling in on late notice without a Wikipedia page

2147
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:42,200
Speaker 2: to take on a resurgent veteran in Rob font who

2148
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:45,040
Speaker 2: was a firm betting favorite coming in. Yet, the twenty

2149
01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:48,920
Speaker 2: seven year old Martina's weathered the damage at times outwork

2150
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:52,680
Speaker 2: the veteran at times and picked up a pretty significant

2151
01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 2: win for this portion of his career. How impressed were

2152
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:55,639
Speaker 2: you by.

2153
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:59,400
Speaker 1: His extremely coming in on short notice against a guy

2154
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:01,720
Speaker 1: who is is you know, not in his prime, but

2155
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:08,559
Speaker 1: very talented, well rounded, tons of experience. Martinez looks fast,

2156
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:11,920
Speaker 1: he had great movement, had a hard time finding him.

2157
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:15,080
Speaker 1: I was, you know, dude, this is what his second

2158
01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:18,320
Speaker 1: fight in UFC. Yeah, and you're beating Rob font at

2159
01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:21,080
Speaker 1: twenty seven years of age. Yeah, that's a prospect to

2160
01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:22,879
Speaker 1: pay attention to there for sure.

2161
01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:24,960
Speaker 2: Long Island, Luke, we did. We do appreciate your UFC

2162
01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:27,479
Speaker 2: knowledge had You're a you're an undercard type guy, and

2163
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:28,320
Speaker 2: this guy was.

2164
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:30,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, the more irrelevant the fighter, the more he liked.

2165
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 2: This guy was trying to get some relevance. What was

2166
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:34,360
Speaker 2: your take on this performance?

2167
01:35:34,360 --> 01:35:36,280
Speaker 5: All right, we got to mention the curtain jerker, the

2168
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:40,519
Speaker 5: tough finale, Daniel Dunshenko got a nice finish Shaw Roder.

2169
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got we got.

2170
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:44,800
Speaker 2: We gotta mention that treditorialize in that moment.

2171
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:47,040
Speaker 1: But someone told me on Thursday, They're like, oh my

2172
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:48,759
Speaker 1: life chat. They're like, do you realize there's an Ultimate

2173
01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:50,439
Speaker 1: Fighter finale? And I'm like, I hadn't.

2174
01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:53,360
Speaker 2: No, I'm not asking you to give me an undercard. Uh,

2175
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:56,479
Speaker 2: I'm trying to say, with your undercard knowledge, Martinez stepping

2176
01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:58,360
Speaker 2: up and beating a guy like font Were you moved

2177
01:35:58,360 --> 01:35:58,560
Speaker 2: by this?

2178
01:35:58,960 --> 01:35:59,640
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, I was.

2179
01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:02,519
Speaker 5: The line was interesting here because Rob font was like

2180
01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 5: minus one fifty and it just gradually kept getting lower.

2181
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:08,479
Speaker 5: On fight night, David Martinez was plus one hundred to

2182
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:11,000
Speaker 5: Rob fontce like minus one twenty. So someone saw the

2183
01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 5: value in David Martinez. Personally, I didn't. I took the

2184
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:16,920
Speaker 5: over in this fight, which did it? But Yeah, David

2185
01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:18,920
Speaker 5: Martinez looks damn good dude, like Luke's had only two

2186
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:20,799
Speaker 5: UFC fights too. I'm intrigued.

2187
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:23,519
Speaker 2: And by the way, Luke Thomas Sean Shelby was tesked

2188
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:26,760
Speaker 2: with getting on the mic and awarding the trophy to

2189
01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:27,920
Speaker 2: the Ultimate Fighter winner.

2190
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:29,720
Speaker 1: In the Yeah, although Hunter Campbell was there, I did

2191
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:30,679
Speaker 1: see him in the audience.

2192
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:32,600
Speaker 2: Interesting. Would you like him to become more of a

2193
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:34,639
Speaker 2: talking head for UFC, like at press conferences?

2194
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:36,440
Speaker 1: Why they've already got Max Kellerman.

2195
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:38,360
Speaker 2: They've got David Shaw, I was saying for UFC.

2196
01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:39,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've already got Max Kellerman.

2197
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:43,120
Speaker 2: Well, he's kind of carrying the turkey and the TKO

2198
01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:43,920
Speaker 2: water at the same time.

2199
01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:45,960
Speaker 1: Oh, brother, he looks like he's got enough to juggle.

2200
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 2: Luke, speaking of carrying extra pounds, Kelvin Gasolon continued to

2201
01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 2: miss weeight and badly did it once more for it.

2202
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:55,280
Speaker 2: You know how much I love Kelvin Gasoline. But that

2203
01:36:55,400 --> 01:36:57,559
Speaker 2: was at middleweight, not even walterweight, which has a history

2204
01:36:57,600 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 2: of missing. I don't know if his heavyweight era is

2205
01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:01,920
Speaker 2: in front of him, But Luke, they took the fight anyway.

2206
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:03,840
Speaker 2: He lost a percentage of his purse, but he still

2207
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:07,880
Speaker 2: gave it to Dustin Stulfus on the feet over three rounds.

2208
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:11,559
Speaker 2: Nearly thirty fights into his UFC career, the weight issues

2209
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:15,559
Speaker 2: continue to follow him. What should the UFC do with him?

2210
01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:18,320
Speaker 2: Because he's on like a little bit of a resurgence.

2211
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:20,880
Speaker 2: He still can make fun fights. I feel like he's

2212
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:22,800
Speaker 2: going to be aged thirty two or less forever. Every

2213
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 2: time we check his age it's still not thirty five,

2214
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:25,360
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

2215
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:28,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, what should we do with this? I don't really know.

2216
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:30,200
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be one of these guys being like,

2217
01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:33,080
Speaker 1: oh they should cut him. I feel weird saying that,

2218
01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:35,200
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I do think there are

2219
01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:38,960
Speaker 1: some issues BC, because dude, I know he took the

2220
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 1: fight on relatively short notice, but don't take fights if

2221
01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:44,200
Speaker 1: you can't make weight, period. Sorry, just don't. That's the

2222
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:45,680
Speaker 1: first thing I'm going to say, Like, doing it this,

2223
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:48,839
Speaker 1: not making weight this far into your career is fucking insane.

2224
01:37:49,479 --> 01:37:52,639
Speaker 1: But the problem is, BC, he is good enough and

2225
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:55,760
Speaker 1: talented enough to still beat some decent guys. But there's

2226
01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:58,560
Speaker 1: a problem there too, which is his skill set was

2227
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:02,439
Speaker 1: always pretty good, but somewhat limited in terms of like,

2228
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:04,320
Speaker 1: you know, he wasn't gonna submit you, and he probably

2229
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:06,920
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna head kick you. You know, he's gonna punch

2230
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:08,800
Speaker 1: your lights out one way or the other, which he

2231
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:10,880
Speaker 1: can still do. But I feel like that that the

2232
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:13,800
Speaker 1: usefulness of that is still real, but starting to narrow

2233
01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 1: a little bit.

2234
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:16,120
Speaker 2: I mean, he stopped evolving his game of years.

2235
01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah. So it's like, is he still good

2236
01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:22,120
Speaker 1: enough to beat guys on the roster? Definitely? Definitely, But

2237
01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:25,439
Speaker 1: I don't is he coming or going? I don't I'm.

2238
01:38:25,320 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 2: About a rematch with Isielway. I mean, I'm in film that, you.

2239
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:31,240
Speaker 1: Know, does he make the weight. I don't know. I

2240
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:31,639
Speaker 1: don't know.

2241
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:34,720
Speaker 2: Talk to me about Alexander Hernandez because ever since he too,

2242
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 2: ever since he lit up day drinking Daddy Don Seroni,

2243
01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:40,800
Speaker 2: he's been sort of juggling two wins, two losses back

2244
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:43,759
Speaker 2: and forth for a while now, still in his early thirties.

2245
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:46,600
Speaker 2: But this makes it four straight, as he finished his

2246
01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:50,400
Speaker 2: Carlos Diego Fajita, who's now forties a man. But the

2247
01:38:50,439 --> 01:38:53,000
Speaker 2: bigger story is like what happened here? I mean he's

2248
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:55,240
Speaker 2: always looked the part. Has he figured it out?

2249
01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:57,559
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean the reality is he came onto the

2250
01:38:57,560 --> 01:39:00,320
Speaker 1: scene and he knocks out Panil dare U and he

2251
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:03,080
Speaker 1: beats oam and you're like, oh my god, where the

2252
01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:05,360
Speaker 1: fuck this guy come from? Then he came to your point,

2253
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 1: crashing back down to earth. How about this?

2254
01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:08,840
Speaker 2: And a lot of those were split decisions, a lot

2255
01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:09,280
Speaker 2: of them more split.

2256
01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:10,960
Speaker 1: But that's the point, Like they were neck and neck

2257
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:13,320
Speaker 1: with guys, and he looked, you know, there were dude,

2258
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:15,600
Speaker 1: here are times he looked scared to throw and he

2259
01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:17,719
Speaker 1: couldn't get out of his own way, and his defense

2260
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 1: looked bad. You know. I now he has four wins

2261
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:24,720
Speaker 1: in a row, three and twenty twenty five and then

2262
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:28,200
Speaker 1: two back to back months. This is the best stretch

2263
01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 1: of his career. Dude. His skill set has finally come together.

2264
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:35,000
Speaker 1: He has good movement. He doesn't put himself in defensively

2265
01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:37,160
Speaker 1: liable positions in the same way that he used to.

2266
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:39,840
Speaker 1: He knows how did he drop this guy with a

2267
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:43,320
Speaker 1: punch coming in? Yeah, which he timed and was ready for. Like, dude,

2268
01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:46,080
Speaker 1: he's got a lot of stuff. Not everything, of course,

2269
01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:48,479
Speaker 1: but he's got a lot figured out. It took a

2270
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 1: long time for his game to gel, but I think

2271
01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:54,400
Speaker 1: it finally has and the results kind of speak to that.

2272
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:56,200
Speaker 2: We got some sound from I believe some sound here

2273
01:39:56,240 --> 01:39:58,720
Speaker 2: from Alexander Hernandez, who he wants next. This would be

2274
01:39:58,720 --> 01:39:59,080
Speaker 2: a big one.

2275
01:39:59,120 --> 01:40:01,240
Speaker 1: This would be a big one, called out Michael Chandler.

2276
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:03,880
Speaker 6: If Michael Chandler is gonna see this, I'm gonna put

2277
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:05,519
Speaker 6: this out there. What would you like to say to

2278
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:07,479
Speaker 6: Michael Chandler to try and get him to, you know,

2279
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:09,800
Speaker 6: get a fish on the line type not to man.

2280
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:11,639
Speaker 2: I think it's a juicy fight. I think I think

2281
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:14,000
Speaker 2: he'll bite on it. I love it. It's exciting fight

2282
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:15,720
Speaker 2: for the fans. I mean it's a sick fight. It's

2283
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:17,840
Speaker 2: a good time for it to happen too, So I

2284
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:18,519
Speaker 2: think he's about it.

2285
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:20,760
Speaker 6: You don't need too much. Just hey, man, sign on

2286
01:40:20,760 --> 01:40:21,360
Speaker 6: the Dota bills.

2287
01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:22,120
Speaker 2: Exactly what is bro.

2288
01:40:22,160 --> 01:40:24,200
Speaker 5: We've been bothing this game long enough, man, I gotta

2289
01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:25,120
Speaker 5: sell nothing sweet.

2290
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:27,880
Speaker 2: Is it still a big fight to have Chandler against you?

2291
01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:31,080
Speaker 1: Is that still a big thing it would be for him? Yes?

2292
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:33,080
Speaker 1: I don't think that would be. Would I don't think

2293
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:35,360
Speaker 1: that would That's not a yeah, that's a good fight

2294
01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:36,479
Speaker 1: for him, all right.

2295
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:39,400
Speaker 2: I was keying in here on Tatiana Suarez coming off

2296
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:42,800
Speaker 2: of that really bad one sided title opportunity against a

2297
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:44,840
Speaker 2: Jeongwae Lee taking out thirty eight year old to Mando

2298
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:48,479
Speaker 2: Lemos and would go downa's unanimous decision for Tatiana, who

2299
01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:51,640
Speaker 2: had a lot of standing clinch control, ground control. We

2300
01:40:51,720 --> 01:40:54,720
Speaker 2: know that the wrestling is her game. Unfortunately for her, though,

2301
01:40:54,760 --> 01:40:56,320
Speaker 2: she'd get a little bit beat up in that final

2302
01:40:56,360 --> 01:41:00,960
Speaker 2: minute where Lamosh got top position and was raining down strikes. Look,

2303
01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:02,960
Speaker 2: this division is not deep. I mean, darn could be

2304
01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:05,680
Speaker 2: the champion next so who Tatiana could be one more

2305
01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 2: win away from fighting for the title for all we know,

2306
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:10,599
Speaker 2: but Tatiana is not young, and we've been waiting for

2307
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:12,920
Speaker 2: this sort of breakout moment where the injuries are behind

2308
01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 2: her and it comes together. Did you see enough on

2309
01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:18,599
Speaker 2: the feet that puts that title loss behind her? Or

2310
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:21,559
Speaker 2: was this sort of just a matchup dependent win. She

2311
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:22,280
Speaker 2: got the job done.

2312
01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:24,560
Speaker 1: If anything, it made me think of the same problems.

2313
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:27,800
Speaker 1: I mean, she won, Okay, that's good, that's stuffing better

2314
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:31,720
Speaker 1: than losing. But I mean there's a couple. I mean,

2315
01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:33,960
Speaker 1: the basic problem is this. When she first got into

2316
01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:36,679
Speaker 1: the division. You see, they were calling her the female Kabib. Yes,

2317
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:39,040
Speaker 1: and you might be like, oh, they're clearly were overestimating

2318
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:40,640
Speaker 1: well in a sense, yes, but at the time it

2319
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:43,040
Speaker 1: didn't feel all that crazy. She was mauling the great

2320
01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:43,599
Speaker 1: and tough.

2321
01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:44,439
Speaker 2: She came through that.

2322
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:47,639
Speaker 1: I think the injuries and the time off and the age,

2323
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:51,240
Speaker 1: as well as the general best practices of MMA getting

2324
01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:53,640
Speaker 1: better defensively, like it's harder to wrestle people now than

2325
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:56,360
Speaker 1: it used to be, but also the age, also the injuries,

2326
01:41:56,439 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 1: also the time off, I think it has irreparably damaged.

2327
01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:02,960
Speaker 1: She's still good enough to win. She seems like a

2328
01:42:03,040 --> 01:42:05,439
Speaker 1: lovely person, so I feel bad saying some of this stuff,

2329
01:42:05,439 --> 01:42:07,360
Speaker 1: but I'm just trying to be honest about the assessment.

2330
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:10,559
Speaker 1: She got the win, she deserved to win, But I

2331
01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:13,400
Speaker 1: didn't see anything from this being like, oh it was

2332
01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:15,719
Speaker 1: kind of fluky what happened against Jong Wilee.

2333
01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:19,040
Speaker 2: No, I don't see enough evolution of the striking.

2334
01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:22,559
Speaker 1: But more than that, her wrest The evolution in the

2335
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:25,240
Speaker 1: wrestling isn't there either. Like her wrestling, if anything has

2336
01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:26,240
Speaker 1: kind of regressed, I.

2337
01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:28,080
Speaker 2: Mean, she still could win a title in the right

2338
01:42:28,120 --> 01:42:30,240
Speaker 2: matchup by leaning into her strengths. I don't I don't

2339
01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:31,519
Speaker 2: think that's impossible to say.

2340
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:34,280
Speaker 1: Uh well, if well now that the chant well the

2341
01:42:34,280 --> 01:42:37,120
Speaker 1: former champs now gone, Yes, it opens things up, but

2342
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:40,640
Speaker 1: you know, would there be a dominant reign. I just

2343
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:41,280
Speaker 1: don't see that.

2344
01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:44,400
Speaker 2: Did anything else on this card top to bottom? Move

2345
01:42:44,479 --> 01:42:46,320
Speaker 2: you because I want Long Island Luke's thoughts, because you

2346
01:42:46,360 --> 01:42:46,800
Speaker 2: know I.

2347
01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:49,800
Speaker 1: Want to move it, move it. I'm gonna say that

2348
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:52,280
Speaker 1: I don't know why Sadrik Duma is still on the

2349
01:42:52,320 --> 01:42:53,040
Speaker 1: fucking roster.

2350
01:42:53,160 --> 01:42:55,120
Speaker 2: Oh his right ball was hurting as he told the.

2351
01:42:55,160 --> 01:42:56,960
Speaker 1: Right I mean, the guy gets kicked in the balls. Grand,

2352
01:42:57,000 --> 01:42:58,880
Speaker 1: it was a pretty bad one. He has to convince

2353
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:00,920
Speaker 1: a judge to take an ankle monitor off due to

2354
01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:03,760
Speaker 1: the alleged primes he's committed, gets in there, gets kicked

2355
01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:05,640
Speaker 1: in the balls fifty one seconds into the fight, and

2356
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:07,559
Speaker 1: then they wave it. What the fuck was the point

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Speaker 1: of any of that? Why was he on this card?

2358
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:12,240
Speaker 1: Why is he in the UFC? It makes no sense

2359
01:43:12,280 --> 01:43:15,120
Speaker 1: whatsoever Beyond that, though, I leave the rest to Long

2360
01:43:15,160 --> 01:43:15,720
Speaker 1: Island Luke.

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01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:19,040
Speaker 5: Yeah for us, Oh no, I love my girlfriend. I

2362
01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:22,360
Speaker 5: just want to say the card itself, great pacing, dude.

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01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:23,879
Speaker 1: They had eight pacing was insane.

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01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:26,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, prelims in only three hours, which is usually like

2365
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:27,439
Speaker 5: six fights.

2366
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:29,639
Speaker 2: Was that a message from the top to not bump

2367
01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:30,599
Speaker 2: into the Netflix card?

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01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:31,200
Speaker 1: Yes?

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01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:32,760
Speaker 5: And no, I think they just I think they just

2370
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:34,519
Speaker 5: packed the prelims tight so they had to really run

2371
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:34,960
Speaker 5: through those.

2372
01:43:35,080 --> 01:43:35,240
Speaker 4: Then.

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01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:37,559
Speaker 5: I think yes, BC on the main card they were like,

2374
01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:39,920
Speaker 5: keep this shit going quick. But either way, it just

2375
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:42,160
Speaker 5: felt like a fight was ending, next fight was in there.

2376
01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:45,439
Speaker 5: So I enjoyed my time. But the card itself, you know,

2377
01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:47,639
Speaker 5: are we gonna come out of this with any new prospects?

2378
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:49,439
Speaker 5: Not so much, David Martinez, That's about it.

2379
01:43:49,479 --> 01:43:53,120
Speaker 2: Oh, that was very succinct and you know. Wow, Okay,

2380
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Speaker 2: that's that's your five topics right there. Well, I didn't

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Speaker 2: I don't know why I'm not happy. Okay, Hey, hey,

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Speaker 2: time for other fans to have a voice Luke every

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Speaker 2: Sunday night. We give you that option at morning combat

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Speaker 2: on x and Instagram. Well, let me guess flannels and JITs,

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Speaker 2: televin key pop uh? Who else you got anybody else?

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Speaker 2: Ummm a man and his cat.

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Speaker 1: I like that guy.

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01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:42,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like I hope they all die. Hey,

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01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:50,639
Speaker 2: here's DM from Donks. That's pretty gross. Guys, that's pretty gross.

2419
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Speaker 2: Let's hear from our first willing participant. This is Careercenzo

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01:45:57,600 --> 01:46:01,400
Speaker 2: Fanos says was Saturday, the best common bo of UFC

2421
01:46:01,439 --> 01:46:05,800
Speaker 2: and boxing fights held on one night ever. No, I

2422
01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:08,200
Speaker 2: mean it was the way it was presented was great

2423
01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:10,280
Speaker 2: because there was no overlap, so it was like, oh,

2424
01:46:10,280 --> 01:46:12,479
Speaker 2: we get to watch this and then watch this. But

2425
01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:14,960
Speaker 2: we've seen a lot of headhead stuff in the past.

2426
01:46:15,080 --> 01:46:18,360
Speaker 2: Just how about the sphere Noche card up against Canelo Berlonga,

2427
01:46:18,360 --> 01:46:21,600
Speaker 2: which I'm not saying was like the most wildly anticipated

2428
01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:23,599
Speaker 2: fight ever, but it was still Canelo on you know.

2429
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:26,840
Speaker 1: And then the dis and Masal card as well.

2430
01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:30,080
Speaker 2: All yeah, Canelo Cove and then the Zone made Thatford

2431
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:33,880
Speaker 2: Spence was the same night as Gay Chee, BMF Dustin prob.

2432
01:46:34,120 --> 01:46:37,760
Speaker 1: That's a sick ass night ship. Yeah, that's got to

2433
01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:39,160
Speaker 1: be your answer, at least my immu.

2434
01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:42,960
Speaker 2: Also, Pacchio Marquez Iie was the same night as the

2435
01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:45,960
Speaker 2: UFC on Fox debut with JDS versus Kane for the

2436
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:49,439
Speaker 2: Henyway title. But that was also the Fox card ended

2437
01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:50,599
Speaker 2: just early enough before.

2438
01:46:51,560 --> 01:46:52,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that. But there's been a bunch of

2439
01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:53,639
Speaker 1: them to your point.

2440
01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:55,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, good question, good question. Hopefully we gave you a

2441
01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:58,360
Speaker 2: good answer. Let's hear from our next from at Saul

2442
01:46:58,439 --> 01:47:01,840
Speaker 2: six to one night. Hey, what what does mysterio say?

2443
01:47:02,320 --> 01:47:03,640
Speaker 2: M raymysterio?

2444
01:47:03,800 --> 01:47:04,680
Speaker 1: How the fuck would I know?

2445
01:47:05,040 --> 01:47:05,880
Speaker 2: How does that song go?

2446
01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:09,519
Speaker 1: What is how's the song going? Mesda lick my balls?

2447
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:10,400
Speaker 1: I got.

2448
01:47:12,280 --> 01:47:14,720
Speaker 2: Okay? Sorry? Have the Fighting Nerds officially been exposed or

2449
01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:18,040
Speaker 2: will they rebound and still have title aspirations? They would

2450
01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:22,320
Speaker 2: further ask here soul six one nine? Uh six one nine?

2451
01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:24,000
Speaker 2: That's where I was going with that, boy, I look

2452
01:47:24,040 --> 01:47:27,240
Speaker 2: like an asshole. Is Gan Silva still the most likely

2453
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:29,640
Speaker 2: to get a title shot? Or is it Kyle Bohoalio,

2454
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:33,320
Speaker 2: Marty Cio, Hoofi, Carlos Prattes. It's gotta be protest.

2455
01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:35,840
Speaker 1: People were asking like who had the worst loss of

2456
01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:37,920
Speaker 1: these four? And I don't know how anyone can say

2457
01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:41,519
Speaker 1: the answer is anything other than Hoofi, because did Jayon

2458
01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:43,439
Speaker 1: Silva get beat up real bad in this fight, Yes,

2459
01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:46,519
Speaker 1: and in particular in that first round, but then he

2460
01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:48,519
Speaker 1: kind of came back in the last minute of the

2461
01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:50,680
Speaker 1: first round and then was doing real well in the

2462
01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:56,760
Speaker 1: second round. Hoofi didn't do shit yep against BSD. Clearly

2463
01:47:56,880 --> 01:47:58,519
Speaker 1: his is the worst, even though he didn't get beat

2464
01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:00,560
Speaker 1: up as bad. Kyle A least made it to a

2465
01:48:00,600 --> 01:48:03,559
Speaker 1: number one contender fight that's something. Protest has already rebound

2466
01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:05,000
Speaker 1: if from a loss, look pretty good doing it.

2467
01:48:05,120 --> 01:48:07,719
Speaker 2: What about Bruna Brazil Long Island thinks she's part.

2468
01:48:07,640 --> 01:48:10,920
Speaker 1: Of the fun. She is she is I women's mme

2469
01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:12,920
Speaker 1: is in a tough spot. I'm not. You know, we

2470
01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:15,960
Speaker 1: want me to tell you and then uh and then

2471
01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:18,719
Speaker 1: oh olok Shaishak is on the rebound, but he hasn't

2472
01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:21,240
Speaker 1: got like a super pronounced win at this point against

2473
01:48:21,240 --> 01:48:24,519
Speaker 1: a big name. So I would say I still have

2474
01:48:24,600 --> 01:48:26,360
Speaker 1: some hope for Silva, but these fuckers need to get

2475
01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:26,679
Speaker 1: it again.

2476
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:28,559
Speaker 2: I mean Protest is peaking. I guess you could say

2477
01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:31,240
Speaker 2: off that wins. He's sort of pointing forward above all

2478
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:31,519
Speaker 2: of them.

2479
01:48:31,640 --> 01:48:34,080
Speaker 1: He certainly looked real good in the rebound. I'll say that.

2480
01:48:34,160 --> 01:48:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, like you on the train when you're crowning,

2481
01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:37,519
Speaker 2: he's the guy that's like sticking out.

2482
01:48:37,600 --> 01:48:39,160
Speaker 1: I did not take a dump on the train today.

2483
01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:39,679
Speaker 10: I would.

2484
01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:41,479
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about that anymore. Next question

2485
01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:43,880
Speaker 2: please from the fans. This is that the MMA.

2486
01:48:43,640 --> 01:48:45,320
Speaker 1: Poster get a rubbed one out on an airplane.

2487
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:48,960
Speaker 2: Okay, why why are we doing this? Where does Tatiana

2488
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:52,160
Speaker 2: Suarez go from here? Now we did talk about her

2489
01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:55,840
Speaker 2: victory and sort of the limitations. She's thirty five later

2490
01:48:55,920 --> 01:48:58,800
Speaker 2: this year, I mean, but to be fair, I think

2491
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:02,120
Speaker 2: she's one more win. Imagine a scenario where either Verner

2492
01:49:02,320 --> 01:49:04,960
Speaker 2: or Dern wins. She she's in that fight, right, Yeah, I.

2493
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:07,920
Speaker 1: Think with you know again, with the champ leaving and

2494
01:49:07,960 --> 01:49:11,640
Speaker 1: what's left, I don't if i'm her you again, I

2495
01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:15,320
Speaker 1: did not look at the win at Lamos as particularly inspiring. Yes,

2496
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:18,320
Speaker 1: but it's a win, and she's still a name and

2497
01:49:18,360 --> 01:49:21,439
Speaker 1: there's still some relevance there. Keep going, see if you

2498
01:49:21,479 --> 01:49:23,400
Speaker 1: can get another title shot. It's not out of the

2499
01:49:23,439 --> 01:49:24,280
Speaker 1: roma possibility.

2500
01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:26,559
Speaker 2: Well, now, Luke, I know I'm normally this strawweight guy,

2501
01:49:26,600 --> 01:49:28,120
Speaker 2: but there really hasn't been a lot of business at

2502
01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:30,519
Speaker 2: straweight in a while. Is there like a rising future

2503
01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:32,840
Speaker 2: title contender or champion that we don't talk about?

2504
01:49:33,120 --> 01:49:36,720
Speaker 5: This women's If she doesn't get a title shot, she's

2505
01:49:36,720 --> 01:49:38,639
Speaker 5: fighting the loser. She's fighting yan Joe.

2506
01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:41,560
Speaker 1: Why is women's MMA in such bad shape? What he

2507
01:49:41,600 --> 01:49:43,920
Speaker 1: should do an expose There used to be a big difference.

2508
01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:45,519
Speaker 1: We'd be like, the women's m A is so much

2509
01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:51,599
Speaker 1: better than women's boxing. Women's MMA is regressing to women's boxing, right.

2510
01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:53,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. I really don't know what the answer

2511
01:49:53,960 --> 01:49:56,840
Speaker 2: is because what made it. I'm just like looking back

2512
01:49:56,920 --> 01:49:59,800
Speaker 2: concidering how toxic the MA world is. MMA fans like

2513
01:50:00,120 --> 01:50:02,559
Speaker 2: attached to women's MMA right away and said, no, this

2514
01:50:02,680 --> 01:50:04,360
Speaker 2: is good, this is really good. It wasn't just for

2515
01:50:04,439 --> 01:50:06,720
Speaker 2: like sexualized reasons. You know, like you had a big

2516
01:50:06,720 --> 01:50:09,479
Speaker 2: star in Ronda. You had really competitive fights that were

2517
01:50:09,479 --> 01:50:12,160
Speaker 2: fought hard, even with the lack of finishes compared to

2518
01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:14,920
Speaker 2: the men's game, Like there were elite fighters and you

2519
01:50:14,920 --> 01:50:17,160
Speaker 2: could see that that is going down.

2520
01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:19,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, but it's in bad shape.

2521
01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:21,000
Speaker 2: Maybe is it only because there was two divisions back

2522
01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:24,280
Speaker 2: then others or I guess maybe I don't know.

2523
01:50:24,520 --> 01:50:24,920
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2524
01:50:25,160 --> 01:50:29,120
Speaker 2: Next question, please, this is from at tv GC MMA.

2525
01:50:29,200 --> 01:50:31,160
Speaker 2: What's your fondest memories of Ricky Hatton?

2526
01:50:31,240 --> 01:50:31,760
Speaker 1: Oh?

2527
01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:33,559
Speaker 2: I forgot. I was supposed to bring that up earlier.

2528
01:50:34,120 --> 01:50:36,840
Speaker 2: A really tough loss that came pretty soon after the

2529
01:50:36,920 --> 01:50:39,280
Speaker 2: Crawford victory over Canelo. To find out that forty six

2530
01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:41,000
Speaker 2: year old I don't know if he is he in.

2531
01:50:40,920 --> 01:50:43,360
Speaker 1: The Hall of Fame, Ricky, I'm not sure.

2532
01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:48,880
Speaker 2: Ricky Hatton, who, of course rose you know, beating Coast

2533
01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:53,320
Speaker 2: Ja Zoo on showtime in in England for the UH

2534
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:56,559
Speaker 2: or the title, and then rising from there to go

2535
01:50:56,680 --> 01:50:59,640
Speaker 2: into super fights with Floyd with Pacio in which he

2536
01:50:59,680 --> 01:51:02,240
Speaker 2: was stopped in both of those. Oh, he is in

2537
01:51:02,280 --> 01:51:04,120
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame, would retire? I remember, like his

2538
01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:07,160
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame thing was I guess somewhat borderline based

2539
01:51:07,160 --> 01:51:09,519
Speaker 2: on the resume, But then you look at the impact

2540
01:51:09,560 --> 01:51:11,960
Speaker 2: he had and you know, getting himself into those super

2541
01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:15,639
Speaker 2: fights with UH, with Floyd and Manny. He was such

2542
01:51:15,640 --> 01:51:19,200
Speaker 2: a joyful, vibrant personality. Remember when HBO twenty four to

2543
01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:21,400
Speaker 2: seven was so young and those episodes with him and

2544
01:51:21,400 --> 01:51:25,400
Speaker 2: Floyd were just hilarious because he didn't take himself or

2545
01:51:25,439 --> 01:51:27,280
Speaker 2: the situation overly serious.

2546
01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:31,200
Speaker 1: There's a famous story of him. It's not about him

2547
01:51:31,240 --> 01:51:33,320
Speaker 1: per se, but just kind of told you about the

2548
01:51:34,840 --> 01:51:39,720
Speaker 1: energy around Hatton was that when Hatton fought Mayweather, the

2549
01:51:39,760 --> 01:51:44,280
Speaker 1: Brits traveled to support him and they drank the MGM

2550
01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:47,719
Speaker 1: dry of alcohol. Yes, it's a real thing that happened.

2551
01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:50,479
Speaker 2: Saia Molvani always relays that story happened at like like

2552
01:51:50,800 --> 01:51:54,240
Speaker 2: Thursday afternoon and a Friday morning of fights. Every single

2553
01:51:54,320 --> 01:51:57,320
Speaker 2: restaurant and provider was they were out, they were waiting

2554
01:51:57,320 --> 01:51:57,920
Speaker 2: on the delivery.

2555
01:51:58,000 --> 01:51:59,679
Speaker 1: I mean you got to say, like, did you got

2556
01:51:59,680 --> 01:52:01,960
Speaker 1: a I fan base when they can do something like that,

2557
01:52:02,040 --> 01:52:02,320
Speaker 1: And I.

2558
01:52:02,280 --> 01:52:04,280
Speaker 2: Think he fit. He was the poster boy for that

2559
01:52:04,320 --> 01:52:07,440
Speaker 2: fan base, not just because his style was all about aggression,

2560
01:52:07,720 --> 01:52:09,960
Speaker 2: fast paced, throw as many punch as wasn't a big puncher,

2561
01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:13,479
Speaker 2: but which he was a guy, yeah, and lived the

2562
01:52:13,600 --> 01:52:17,640
Speaker 2: lifestyle of you know, honest, hard worker guy that liked

2563
01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:18,280
Speaker 2: to drink.

2564
01:52:18,160 --> 01:52:19,320
Speaker 1: Like to party, blue collar.

2565
01:52:19,880 --> 01:52:21,599
Speaker 2: I don't think we know what happened to him at

2566
01:52:21,600 --> 01:52:21,960
Speaker 2: this point.

2567
01:52:23,200 --> 01:52:25,080
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem great, but it doesn't seem great.

2568
01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:27,600
Speaker 2: His son, Campbell had been fighting for a while and

2569
01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:30,800
Speaker 2: I think he just stopped fighting as well. But he leaves.

2570
01:52:31,120 --> 01:52:32,519
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a Hall of Famer first of all,

2571
01:52:32,720 --> 01:52:35,040
Speaker 2: he's one of the most beloved fighters. Second of all,

2572
01:52:35,479 --> 01:52:37,360
Speaker 2: I think anyone that just watched him, from his fighting

2573
01:52:37,400 --> 01:52:39,880
Speaker 2: style to the way he carried himself, he was relatable.

2574
01:52:39,960 --> 01:52:42,479
Speaker 2: He was enjoyable, he was joyful. It's this is a

2575
01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:44,400
Speaker 2: really sad thing that sort of snuck in at a

2576
01:52:44,760 --> 01:52:46,600
Speaker 2: time when we're talking up Terrence Crawford and all this

2577
01:52:46,760 --> 01:52:48,360
Speaker 2: rightfully so and we didn't get into in a way.

2578
01:52:49,120 --> 01:52:52,519
Speaker 2: Niowa nWay defending his championships on Sunday, but it aired

2579
01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:55,560
Speaker 2: on top ranks Facebook page What the fuck? And he

2580
01:52:55,600 --> 01:52:59,080
Speaker 2: fought a really tough opponent and merge On Akmedalia of

2581
01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:02,240
Speaker 2: MJ the former Unified champion, and he out boxed him

2582
01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:06,320
Speaker 2: thoroughly over twelve rounds and maybe shows you that at

2583
01:53:06,400 --> 01:53:07,759
Speaker 2: his age. I don't know if in a way should

2584
01:53:07,760 --> 01:53:09,600
Speaker 2: go to one twenty six, but there's gonna be a

2585
01:53:09,600 --> 01:53:12,519
Speaker 2: big fights coming. Juneto Nakatani is moving up in a way.

2586
01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:15,759
Speaker 2: He's supposed to be back in December against David Allen Picasso,

2587
01:53:15,880 --> 01:53:19,160
Speaker 2: with Juneto Nakotani making his debut at one twenty two

2588
01:53:19,200 --> 01:53:19,360
Speaker 2: on the.

2589
01:53:19,439 --> 01:53:21,080
Speaker 1: End of so one more and then they could make

2590
01:53:21,120 --> 01:53:21,759
Speaker 1: it and they could.

2591
01:53:21,720 --> 01:53:24,320
Speaker 2: Ban Rodriguez show up soon after that for a big fight.

2592
01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:26,519
Speaker 2: We'll see. But it's not like we're trying to avoid

2593
01:53:26,680 --> 01:53:29,639
Speaker 2: Niowa in a way, but they kind of buried this fight,

2594
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:33,720
Speaker 2: you know, from an American standpoint, as as low as

2595
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:37,120
Speaker 2: possible in light of Cannelo Crawford. It's it's unfortunate, but

2596
01:53:37,200 --> 01:53:39,639
Speaker 2: it's true. We love in Away's one of the best.

2597
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:42,040
Speaker 1: In the world and the era again, very very strange

2598
01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:44,120
Speaker 1: that you always get like Bud and in a way

2599
01:53:44,160 --> 01:53:45,559
Speaker 1: performing on similar weekends.

2600
01:53:45,640 --> 01:53:47,559
Speaker 2: Sure, all right, what else we got here from the fans?

2601
01:53:47,640 --> 01:53:50,519
Speaker 2: This is from at empty booble. One has to go.

2602
01:53:50,920 --> 01:53:55,240
Speaker 2: This is tough nineties rap or seventies rock.

2603
01:53:55,640 --> 01:53:57,479
Speaker 1: I mean, for folks that might be asking, like, what

2604
01:53:57,520 --> 01:53:59,840
Speaker 1: would count a seventies rock led Zeppelin.

2605
01:54:00,200 --> 01:54:04,120
Speaker 2: I think in totality the nineteen seventies led Zeppelin, rolling Stones,

2606
01:54:04,760 --> 01:54:08,040
Speaker 2: aggressive rock, jazz fusion, David Bowie like there was you know,

2607
01:54:08,479 --> 01:54:10,519
Speaker 2: there was so much going on in the seventies that

2608
01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:12,639
Speaker 2: the more I roun wrap it in my vinyl journey,

2609
01:54:12,720 --> 01:54:14,479
Speaker 2: I'm just blown away.

2610
01:54:14,680 --> 01:54:16,800
Speaker 1: Also, the movies of the nineteen seventies are some of

2611
01:54:16,840 --> 01:54:17,559
Speaker 1: the best movies ever.

2612
01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:21,080
Speaker 2: Daniel Snyder's nephew and I've been going through the seventies

2613
01:54:21,160 --> 01:54:23,400
Speaker 2: neo noir, you know, library.

2614
01:54:23,000 --> 01:54:25,519
Speaker 1: First entered The Dragon nineteen seventy four.

2615
01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:28,120
Speaker 2: I just watched what seventies movie did I watch the

2616
01:54:28,200 --> 01:54:28,559
Speaker 2: other day?

2617
01:54:28,640 --> 01:54:28,720
Speaker 10: Oh?

2618
01:54:29,120 --> 01:54:30,800
Speaker 2: Actually it's an early eighties movie, but it's not that

2619
01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:34,400
Speaker 2: seventies motif. It's Thief starring James Kahn. Just such a

2620
01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:38,840
Speaker 2: gritty yeah, thank you, so oh God, was a beast. Yes,

2621
01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:40,960
Speaker 2: and I saw Jaws for the first time in three

2622
01:54:41,040 --> 01:54:41,800
Speaker 2: D in the theater.

2623
01:54:42,320 --> 01:54:42,520
Speaker 1: Nie.

2624
01:54:42,760 --> 01:54:45,480
Speaker 2: That was like seventy six or seventy five, and I

2625
01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:47,720
Speaker 2: never I just didn't know how awesome that one was.

2626
01:54:47,840 --> 01:54:50,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, So right, nineties hip hop getting rid of that

2627
01:54:50,880 --> 01:54:57,879
Speaker 1: seems unfathomable to me. Right, Biggie jay Z, Nas, Buster Rhymes, Tribe,

2628
01:54:58,280 --> 01:55:02,680
Speaker 1: Dre Snoop Easy, I mean, and even before that, rock Him.

2629
01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:09,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even know Cypress Hill like foundational

2630
01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:15,320
Speaker 1: acts of hip hop, Big Pun, you know. I just

2631
01:55:15,520 --> 01:55:16,280
Speaker 1: I can go on and on.

2632
01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:18,880
Speaker 2: I mean, that was the decade that that really it

2633
01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:21,440
Speaker 2: started in the eighties, but the nineties made it not

2634
01:55:21,560 --> 01:55:23,440
Speaker 2: only commercial, but you start to see like the true

2635
01:55:24,120 --> 01:55:27,000
Speaker 2: craft legends of it come out. As you mentioned, it

2636
01:55:27,120 --> 01:55:29,400
Speaker 2: depends upon preference. I'm more of a rock guy than

2637
01:55:29,400 --> 01:55:31,120
Speaker 2: I'm a rap guy, so I'm gonna let nineties rap go.

2638
01:55:31,160 --> 01:55:33,360
Speaker 2: But nineties hip hop was the absolute mountain top peak

2639
01:55:33,880 --> 01:55:37,600
Speaker 2: from Nas to Biggie to Tupac to the public Enemy

2640
01:55:37,640 --> 01:55:40,080
Speaker 2: in the beginning through Wu Tang, I mean good jay Zon.

2641
01:55:40,120 --> 01:55:43,800
Speaker 1: I'll just say personally, losing seventies rock would be slightly easier,

2642
01:55:44,240 --> 01:55:46,200
Speaker 1: but even that is a troublesome.

2643
01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but luckily they didn't put you know, twenty tens

2644
01:55:48,440 --> 01:55:49,280
Speaker 2: abortion rock in here.

2645
01:55:49,320 --> 01:55:51,440
Speaker 1: That would be if you did tug one out on

2646
01:55:51,560 --> 01:55:53,520
Speaker 1: a plane. Would you count that as the mile high club?

2647
01:55:53,720 --> 01:55:55,960
Speaker 1: That is, this is the mile would you count it?

2648
01:55:57,200 --> 01:55:57,240
Speaker 4: No?

2649
01:55:57,880 --> 01:56:01,240
Speaker 2: Maybe the half mile club? You know, maybe, but uh no,

2650
01:56:01,440 --> 01:56:03,200
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not looking to enter any of those

2651
01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:05,200
Speaker 2: club there. That's it long island. Look right, enough of

2652
01:56:05,240 --> 01:56:09,240
Speaker 2: that ship, speaking of ship, right, We're good, Yeah, all right,

2653
01:56:09,280 --> 01:56:09,520
Speaker 2: thank you.

2654
01:56:09,600 --> 01:56:11,920
Speaker 1: Guy, fans. Lady today I'm gonna jump across this table.

2655
01:56:11,920 --> 01:56:13,560
Speaker 2: Okay, lady, but you can reach the show by the

2656
01:56:13,560 --> 01:56:15,720
Speaker 2: way at morning Combat at gmail dot com. Although we

2657
01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:17,480
Speaker 2: had a special live hey shout out to our.

2658
01:56:17,400 --> 01:56:19,080
Speaker 1: Live episode on Friday that we Yeah, it was fun.

2659
01:56:19,120 --> 01:56:20,760
Speaker 2: That was really fun. I know it was only an hour,

2660
01:56:20,880 --> 01:56:22,720
Speaker 2: but that was really fun. Thank you guys. It felt

2661
01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:25,400
Speaker 2: like old times on the road, right, Yes, yeah, you're like,

2662
01:56:25,440 --> 01:56:27,320
Speaker 2: I'm done with the show already. All right, Morning Combat

2663
01:56:27,320 --> 01:56:28,960
Speaker 2: at gmail dot com. Get your fans ubs, get your

2664
01:56:29,000 --> 01:56:31,320
Speaker 2: dead wrongs. On Friday, the final segment we have is

2665
01:56:31,360 --> 01:56:33,840
Speaker 2: where we picked through the kernels of my fecal area

2666
01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:37,760
Speaker 2: to find the weirdest wildest and outrageous videos of the week.

2667
01:56:37,800 --> 01:56:40,440
Speaker 2: In an effort to make Luke Thomas amo this is

2668
01:56:40,520 --> 01:56:52,120
Speaker 2: called Have you seen this? Who that sounds like al

2669
01:56:52,200 --> 01:56:56,040
Speaker 2: Pacino and a son of a woman? Right, yeah, right,

2670
01:56:56,640 --> 01:56:58,880
Speaker 2: that's how you debate, right. That was that scene at

2671
01:56:58,880 --> 01:57:00,960
Speaker 2: the end of the y Yeah, all right, Hey, let's

2672
01:57:01,000 --> 01:57:03,440
Speaker 2: go to Canelo Crawford in Vegas. All the stars were out.

2673
01:57:03,480 --> 01:57:06,240
Speaker 2: Who did Canelo have in his locker room? Luke's dream?

2674
01:57:06,800 --> 01:57:10,520
Speaker 2: Sofia Vergara came in and embraced what do you think missus?

2675
01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:15,440
Speaker 2: Canelo in the background is thinking here, get this, get

2676
01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:18,320
Speaker 2: this harlot out of my I think Canelo was thinking

2677
01:57:18,400 --> 01:57:24,400
Speaker 2: right there, Yeah, Bud will not be outdone. How about

2678
01:57:24,400 --> 01:57:27,160
Speaker 2: the Bayou Barbie Angel Reese coming in now the high

2679
01:57:27,200 --> 01:57:29,680
Speaker 2: difference was was was massive here, but uh.

2680
01:57:30,360 --> 01:57:32,240
Speaker 1: But the one next to her, the next Battie, that

2681
01:57:32,360 --> 01:57:34,880
Speaker 1: one you can't see on this angle, but it's actually

2682
01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:37,480
Speaker 1: the friend that Angel Reese introduces. She was the.

2683
01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:41,440
Speaker 2: Very attractive lady as well, so a lot of star

2684
01:57:41,560 --> 01:57:45,560
Speaker 2: power there. We also had Mike Tyson, Mister Beast and

2685
01:57:45,880 --> 01:57:48,200
Speaker 2: Turkey going through Shenanigans to promote the fight.

2686
01:57:48,320 --> 01:57:49,960
Speaker 1: This was during the undercard I want to be clear

2687
01:57:50,040 --> 01:57:51,960
Speaker 1: one more time. I don't need to hear or see

2688
01:57:52,040 --> 01:57:52,600
Speaker 1: Turkey ever.

2689
01:57:52,840 --> 01:57:56,480
Speaker 2: Well, he's everywhere, He's on everything, Luke, Okay, you cannot

2690
01:57:56,480 --> 01:57:57,800
Speaker 2: avoid like no, no.

2691
01:57:58,000 --> 01:58:00,760
Speaker 1: Part of the broadcast is improved with his inclusion.

2692
01:58:01,000 --> 01:58:03,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's very heavy handed in his choices as well. Luke,

2693
01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:07,840
Speaker 2: He's he's something. Also Turkey's new innovation. The AI ring

2694
01:58:07,960 --> 01:58:11,280
Speaker 2: judge scored the fight on Saturday one fourteen one fourteen

2695
01:58:11,920 --> 01:58:12,600
Speaker 2: a draw.

2696
01:58:13,600 --> 01:58:16,240
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, by the way, people think that this

2697
01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:19,560
Speaker 1: is the jabber ai thing that they used previously. It

2698
01:58:19,680 --> 01:58:20,680
Speaker 1: is not. It is their own.

2699
01:58:20,600 --> 01:58:26,360
Speaker 8: Proprietary HEYI okay, jabber one had Terrence winning, so Jabblwaukee Yeah, Jabblwaukee.

2700
01:58:26,760 --> 01:58:29,520
Speaker 2: Turkey also put out a tweet shouting out good old

2701
01:58:29,680 --> 01:58:31,520
Speaker 2: versace Rick Reno looking like.

2702
01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:34,640
Speaker 1: Uh bro, tell me this doesn't look like a little

2703
01:58:34,720 --> 01:58:37,120
Speaker 1: kid that got dressed by his dad and his dad

2704
01:58:37,200 --> 01:58:39,400
Speaker 1: wanted his little kid to be a pimp for Halloween.

2705
01:58:39,880 --> 01:58:42,320
Speaker 1: Good lord, Rick, buddy, we love you. You seem like

2706
01:58:42,360 --> 01:58:44,800
Speaker 1: a very nice guy. I don't know you. You're not cool.

2707
01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:48,400
Speaker 1: I hope that's you're not. This doesn't make you cool,

2708
01:58:49,280 --> 01:58:51,680
Speaker 1: you see, here's the truth about that. I'm also not cool.

2709
01:58:52,040 --> 01:58:54,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's playing a character, but uh, it's

2710
01:58:55,080 --> 01:58:58,120
Speaker 2: it's outrageous. I mean it looks like a like Liberachi

2711
01:58:58,160 --> 01:59:00,600
Speaker 2: and Joe Goosen's love Child and that of it's like

2712
01:59:00,680 --> 01:59:04,200
Speaker 2: there's a lot of denim, there's some there's some bedazzling

2713
01:59:04,280 --> 01:59:04,560
Speaker 2: going on.

2714
01:59:04,920 --> 01:59:07,040
Speaker 1: Just go if you can wear that again, Rick, if

2715
01:59:07,080 --> 01:59:09,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna go trick or treating. But other than that,

2716
01:59:09,240 --> 01:59:09,960
Speaker 1: you gotta let it go.

2717
01:59:10,080 --> 01:59:12,880
Speaker 2: But that's the only time Turkey's humor is actually funny

2718
01:59:12,880 --> 01:59:14,240
Speaker 2: when he's like putting on tweets like that, like we

2719
01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:15,600
Speaker 2: gotta have a discussion about.

2720
01:59:15,400 --> 01:59:18,200
Speaker 1: Old or so. Okay, I agree with that, yeah, but all.

2721
01:59:18,080 --> 01:59:20,040
Speaker 2: The fighters always try to be like, no, Turkey's really cool,

2722
01:59:20,080 --> 01:59:22,840
Speaker 2: he's funny, Turkey. They're not here to hang out with

2723
01:59:22,920 --> 01:59:23,760
Speaker 2: you like you think they are.

2724
01:59:24,080 --> 01:59:25,680
Speaker 1: You think Turkey, Okay, you know, I don't want to

2725
01:59:25,680 --> 01:59:27,280
Speaker 1: get in too much trouble. But we'll leave it at that.

2726
01:59:27,560 --> 01:59:29,120
Speaker 2: Why on American soil.

2727
01:59:29,640 --> 01:59:31,360
Speaker 1: It's not even that, it's just about you know, people

2728
01:59:31,400 --> 01:59:32,240
Speaker 1: are sensitive these days.

2729
01:59:32,480 --> 01:59:35,760
Speaker 2: I'm very sensitive, all right, hey, allitherwhere elsewhere sorry A

2730
01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:38,960
Speaker 2: m M a LFA main event, Gable Steveson made his

2731
01:59:39,040 --> 01:59:41,920
Speaker 2: pro debut and he didn't need long. This is shot

2732
01:59:41,960 --> 01:59:44,400
Speaker 2: from the crowd, not the broadcast. Of course, John Jones

2733
01:59:44,440 --> 01:59:44,640
Speaker 2: in his.

2734
01:59:44,720 --> 01:59:47,000
Speaker 1: Corner, Yeah, John making it all about him celebrating.

2735
01:59:47,080 --> 01:59:50,320
Speaker 2: So Gable got basically an instant takedown. It didn't take long.

2736
01:59:50,440 --> 01:59:52,560
Speaker 1: And yeah, well, you know, he is an Olympic gold

2737
01:59:52,640 --> 01:59:56,360
Speaker 1: medalist and national champion in wrestling, so I can't imagine

2738
01:59:56,360 --> 01:59:59,320
Speaker 1: that the uh, you know, the guy that they had

2739
01:59:59,360 --> 02:00:02,080
Speaker 1: against him was all that ready for the challenges, do

2740
02:00:02,240 --> 02:00:04,080
Speaker 1: you think, Gab I'm so glad to see his turf

2741
02:00:04,160 --> 02:00:06,440
Speaker 1: toe cleared up so fast, you know, because he had

2742
02:00:06,440 --> 02:00:08,520
Speaker 1: the turf dow and he couldn't do the Craig Jones Invitational,

2743
02:00:08,640 --> 02:00:10,480
Speaker 1: But all of a sudden he looked great to me,

2744
02:00:10,640 --> 02:00:12,600
Speaker 1: so I was I'm really happy that that turf doe

2745
02:00:12,640 --> 02:00:13,760
Speaker 1: went away so fast.

2746
02:00:13,920 --> 02:00:17,600
Speaker 2: Will Gable will be making his UFC debut at the

2747
02:00:17,720 --> 02:00:20,840
Speaker 2: White House? Will he get the bow Nickels treatment of

2748
02:00:21,000 --> 02:00:22,360
Speaker 2: just like sped up matchmaking?

2749
02:00:22,480 --> 02:00:23,440
Speaker 1: Or think he does?

2750
02:00:23,560 --> 02:00:25,720
Speaker 2: He will need two three. We had this debate before

2751
02:00:25,720 --> 02:00:27,920
Speaker 2: in a different segment, but like, we don't know how

2752
02:00:27,960 --> 02:00:29,280
Speaker 2: good he is, but I mean that was there was

2753
02:00:29,400 --> 02:00:31,320
Speaker 2: ease in which he did that. Yes, it was heavy

2754
02:00:31,360 --> 02:00:33,560
Speaker 2: ground upon but he was fighting. He's fighting the guy

2755
02:00:33,640 --> 02:00:34,840
Speaker 2: that makes your sandwiches at subway.

2756
02:00:34,960 --> 02:00:36,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he was fighting. Definitely a sandwich artist,

2757
02:00:37,120 --> 02:00:41,080
Speaker 1: so he was a mixed martial artist sandwich art.

2758
02:00:41,200 --> 02:00:43,280
Speaker 2: Most of those sandwich artists, at least Jared is known

2759
02:00:43,320 --> 02:00:44,880
Speaker 2: for really bad Okay.

2760
02:00:45,600 --> 02:00:47,520
Speaker 1: A nice people. Do they make delicious food.

2761
02:00:48,000 --> 02:00:51,840
Speaker 2: Let's check in on pro football? All right, the green

2762
02:00:51,880 --> 02:00:54,400
Speaker 2: dildos have hit the NFL. I repeat the w n

2763
02:00:54,440 --> 02:00:55,280
Speaker 2: B A green dildos.

2764
02:00:55,320 --> 02:00:56,640
Speaker 1: You know, at first I thought this was like some

2765
02:00:57,200 --> 02:00:59,680
Speaker 1: terrible thing that they were throwing the green dildos on

2766
02:00:59,680 --> 02:01:01,400
Speaker 1: the and before was like, oh there, this is some

2767
02:01:01,520 --> 02:01:04,000
Speaker 1: kind of anti woman thing. But it's a crypto scam

2768
02:01:04,560 --> 02:01:06,960
Speaker 1: that they use for crypto advertising. So now they're just

2769
02:01:07,000 --> 02:01:08,520
Speaker 1: throwing it everywhere. It's not even just a b.

2770
02:01:09,040 --> 02:01:10,960
Speaker 2: Well this weekend it happened a second time. But check

2771
02:01:11,000 --> 02:01:13,800
Speaker 2: out this dude trying to Okay, sir, can you please.

2772
02:01:13,800 --> 02:01:16,440
Speaker 1: This is this is BC going to pack his luggage.

2773
02:01:16,480 --> 02:01:17,880
Speaker 2: Can you please pull up those pants?

2774
02:01:17,920 --> 02:01:18,040
Speaker 1: There?

2775
02:01:18,080 --> 02:01:20,200
Speaker 2: I didn't need to see all it. Crack kills, all right,

2776
02:01:20,600 --> 02:01:23,120
Speaker 2: and now for your NFL over the shoulder move of

2777
02:01:23,200 --> 02:01:23,880
Speaker 2: the week. Watch this.

2778
02:01:25,280 --> 02:01:28,360
Speaker 1: You know what, well, you know what you know I've

2779
02:01:28,400 --> 02:01:30,320
Speaker 1: been caught a time or two doing that. I'm not

2780
02:01:30,360 --> 02:01:33,880
Speaker 1: gonna hte on this gentleman. Guys like, damn, I've done

2781
02:01:33,920 --> 02:01:35,280
Speaker 1: that too, friend, I've been there.

2782
02:01:35,520 --> 02:01:37,480
Speaker 2: We only have one piece of elder abuse this week,

2783
02:01:37,480 --> 02:01:39,840
Speaker 2: and it came via the sport of soccer. A little

2784
02:01:39,880 --> 02:01:42,120
Speaker 2: footy action, nice moves right there.

2785
02:01:42,040 --> 02:01:46,040
Speaker 1: Doesn't look look messy. Okay, okay, take that.

2786
02:01:46,440 --> 02:01:50,960
Speaker 2: Grandma did not deserve that, hey or this Bayler.

2787
02:01:51,120 --> 02:01:51,360
Speaker 1: Sorry.

2788
02:01:51,640 --> 02:01:55,080
Speaker 2: This week in Morob Luke no cha. Morob was on

2789
02:01:55,200 --> 02:01:57,560
Speaker 2: the scene in San Antonio, dressed just like the people.

2790
02:01:57,640 --> 02:01:57,960
Speaker 12: Look at it.

2791
02:01:58,280 --> 02:02:00,720
Speaker 1: A dude, he's like this from the last not check

2792
02:02:01,120 --> 02:02:01,880
Speaker 1: it is all right?

2793
02:02:01,920 --> 02:02:04,000
Speaker 5: He read the lower He's still the number one contender.

2794
02:02:04,040 --> 02:02:06,000
Speaker 2: Shouldn't he be? The say I got fooled. I got

2795
02:02:06,960 --> 02:02:09,400
Speaker 2: he thought it the last Yeah, you're right, you're right.

2796
02:02:09,440 --> 02:02:09,680
Speaker 1: This is.

2797
02:02:11,240 --> 02:02:14,000
Speaker 2: You're right. It must be to yeah last fight Henry Sahuda. Okay,

2798
02:02:14,240 --> 02:02:17,160
Speaker 2: I got fooled. But with that said, he should be

2799
02:02:17,200 --> 02:02:19,000
Speaker 2: the UFC's mascot. He said, isn't he hilarious?

2800
02:02:19,600 --> 02:02:21,720
Speaker 1: Hilarious is a strong word, but he's certainly animated.

2801
02:02:21,760 --> 02:02:24,400
Speaker 2: All right. Here is him from this Noche when he

2802
02:02:24,480 --> 02:02:27,520
Speaker 2: went full lucha libre. He's in fight shape.

2803
02:02:28,120 --> 02:02:31,280
Speaker 1: He is the definition of extra. You know what I mean.

2804
02:02:31,680 --> 02:02:34,000
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, here's Morob and his friends playing a new

2805
02:02:34,040 --> 02:02:35,480
Speaker 2: sport called rock baseball.

2806
02:02:35,560 --> 02:02:42,520
Speaker 1: Your thoughts. I don't think this is a good game.

2807
02:02:44,760 --> 02:02:48,800
Speaker 1: What are we doing here? My name is Morob and

2808
02:02:48,920 --> 02:02:50,400
Speaker 1: I hit dingers.

2809
02:02:51,240 --> 02:02:59,240
Speaker 2: Take him down? Nice? Maybe that's a good trae, nice.

2810
02:03:01,920 --> 02:03:02,200
Speaker 9: Joke.

2811
02:03:03,520 --> 02:03:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, motherfucker, he's extra. Bro's in a good way.

2812
02:03:11,680 --> 02:03:14,600
Speaker 2: But more m m a fighters in the wild. I

2813
02:03:14,640 --> 02:03:17,560
Speaker 2: think this is filmed in Connecticut. Here's Sean Strickland get

2814
02:03:17,640 --> 02:03:20,800
Speaker 2: a little chauma grill with Glover and Peeda.

2815
02:03:24,080 --> 02:03:32,960
Speaker 1: Hey gott House.

2816
02:03:33,360 --> 02:03:41,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm real bad, guys. I mean, I mean, I

2817
02:03:41,320 --> 02:03:43,360
Speaker 2: don't know, like, is there any part of you that

2818
02:03:43,480 --> 02:03:45,640
Speaker 2: is like says maybe if you had to hang with

2819
02:03:45,920 --> 02:03:47,680
Speaker 2: Strickland by the grill that you would like laugh and

2820
02:03:47,760 --> 02:03:48,560
Speaker 2: have an okay time?

2821
02:03:48,680 --> 02:03:54,560
Speaker 1: Or people of different varieties can have common ground breaking bread.

2822
02:03:54,560 --> 02:03:55,000
Speaker 1: I'll say that.

2823
02:03:55,240 --> 02:03:57,760
Speaker 2: Okay, we we went jacked up this week, but not

2824
02:03:57,880 --> 02:03:59,960
Speaker 2: on the NFL pitch. Let's go to college. Here's l

2825
02:04:00,080 --> 02:04:04,640
Speaker 2: us you coach Brian Brian Kelly in the in the Florida. Okay, wow,

2826
02:04:04,960 --> 02:04:07,240
Speaker 2: that is sir. You got jacked up.

2827
02:04:07,360 --> 02:04:08,920
Speaker 1: That is wasn't even that bad.

2828
02:04:09,640 --> 02:04:10,080
Speaker 2: That'll hurt.

2829
02:04:10,120 --> 02:04:11,720
Speaker 1: He'll feel that because he's ancient.

2830
02:04:12,120 --> 02:04:14,400
Speaker 2: You sent me this video from Newark, New Jersey. New

2831
02:04:14,480 --> 02:04:17,520
Speaker 2: bond villain has been unlocked. They call him the Newark Samurai.

2832
02:04:21,120 --> 02:04:21,400
Speaker 12: Ship.

2833
02:04:21,520 --> 02:04:29,920
Speaker 14: You see, fucking up. You got a motherfucker samurai. This

2834
02:04:30,000 --> 02:04:34,480
Speaker 14: ship can't make this ship the funk up dude.

2835
02:04:34,520 --> 02:04:36,760
Speaker 1: That's the most Newark thing ever.

2836
02:04:37,040 --> 02:04:39,640
Speaker 2: That guy needs to patrol at Newark penn Station. Oh my,

2837
02:04:40,040 --> 02:04:43,600
Speaker 2: just clean up over there, all right, Wow, let's go

2838
02:04:43,680 --> 02:04:45,760
Speaker 2: over to the airplane edibles. Luke knows about this. In fact,

2839
02:04:45,800 --> 02:04:47,440
Speaker 2: Luke sent me this day. Luke, you're showing up twice

2840
02:04:47,480 --> 02:04:50,160
Speaker 2: on here. Look at this guy flying high all.

2841
02:04:50,160 --> 02:04:55,640
Speaker 1: Right, that is that is flying on delta in nine.

2842
02:04:55,800 --> 02:05:00,600
Speaker 1: Motherfucker whoa show that one more time? Look at him

2843
02:05:00,680 --> 02:05:02,480
Speaker 1: just chewing like a cow with his mouth up. And

2844
02:05:02,520 --> 02:05:02,880
Speaker 1: look at this.

2845
02:05:08,120 --> 02:05:11,120
Speaker 2: Throw back a bottle of beer on that one, suit riot. Hey,

2846
02:05:11,200 --> 02:05:13,520
Speaker 2: let's go over to the car. You've got carnie workers, Luke,

2847
02:05:13,960 --> 02:05:17,240
Speaker 2: you got carnie workers. Watch the gentleman working this event careful?

2848
02:05:22,920 --> 02:05:23,080
Speaker 4: Is that?

2849
02:05:23,320 --> 02:05:25,640
Speaker 2: Do you think that's the worst job you can have?

2850
02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:27,600
Speaker 2: To be like a traveling Carney, is that like the

2851
02:05:27,640 --> 02:05:29,720
Speaker 2: lowest of lows where you're still employed, you have a

2852
02:05:29,720 --> 02:05:32,440
Speaker 2: place to live on the road, but like, what's that lifestyle?

2853
02:05:32,680 --> 02:05:35,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, plus you're not making that much. That's rough.

2854
02:05:36,120 --> 02:05:39,680
Speaker 2: Okay, this week in vehicular manslaughter, let's go to this race.

2855
02:05:43,080 --> 02:05:50,120
Speaker 1: Christ Oh Jesus, my god, Jesus, Wow, drive fast all

2856
02:05:50,240 --> 02:05:51,160
Speaker 1: gas on that one.

2857
02:05:51,320 --> 02:05:56,240
Speaker 2: Right, that's it. That looks that look worse than the

2858
02:05:56,320 --> 02:06:00,400
Speaker 2: land mooning. I mean, if that even happened, right then, yeah,

2859
02:06:00,440 --> 02:06:03,040
Speaker 2: all right, all right, all right, all right, time for

2860
02:06:03,160 --> 02:06:05,440
Speaker 2: your T shirts of the week here, Luca, I mean

2861
02:06:05,560 --> 02:06:06,360
Speaker 2: relatable right.

2862
02:06:07,280 --> 02:06:09,680
Speaker 1: Four to a pounder sixty nine. That's a classic, fella.

2863
02:06:09,680 --> 02:06:12,640
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, let's go over to Ted Lasso over here,

2864
02:06:12,720 --> 02:06:13,959
Speaker 2: great show, better.

2865
02:06:13,760 --> 02:06:17,360
Speaker 1: T shirt fixing to lasso that assoh.

2866
02:06:18,240 --> 02:06:22,800
Speaker 2: Last, Oh okay, we'll keep it going here, Luke, let's

2867
02:06:22,800 --> 02:06:23,640
Speaker 2: go over to DJ O.

2868
02:06:23,880 --> 02:06:27,280
Speaker 1: All right, Osama spin Lodden. He's a DJ that's not bad.

2869
02:06:27,400 --> 02:06:29,440
Speaker 2: All right, And here's the best shirt of the weekend, Luke.

2870
02:06:29,440 --> 02:06:30,520
Speaker 2: I'd love to see you in this one.

2871
02:06:31,760 --> 02:06:35,000
Speaker 1: THEO vaughn Ate my ass in an Arby's parking lot.

2872
02:06:38,360 --> 02:06:40,400
Speaker 1: You know, there is a lot of sin that goes

2873
02:06:40,480 --> 02:06:42,040
Speaker 1: down in an Arby's parking Yeah.

2874
02:06:42,160 --> 02:06:44,160
Speaker 2: It can't be as fun as these jerseys of the week, though,

2875
02:06:44,200 --> 02:06:45,920
Speaker 2: what a great segment I put together here? Would you

2876
02:06:45,960 --> 02:06:46,160
Speaker 2: wear this?

2877
02:06:46,320 --> 02:06:50,160
Speaker 1: Luke COVID nineteen? That's a that's a certain commitment to

2878
02:06:50,160 --> 02:06:50,400
Speaker 1: the bill.

2879
02:06:50,400 --> 02:06:52,560
Speaker 2: All right, here comes a great nightmare blunt rotation. Would

2880
02:06:52,560 --> 02:06:53,440
Speaker 2: you hang out with these guys?

2881
02:06:55,120 --> 02:07:01,560
Speaker 1: Ray Lewis, Aaron Hernandez and oj Simpson? No, you know what,

2882
02:07:01,640 --> 02:07:02,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm making it out of that

2883
02:07:02,760 --> 02:07:03,200
Speaker 1: room a lot.

2884
02:07:04,480 --> 02:07:07,600
Speaker 2: Here's the best jersey we found this week. You know

2885
02:07:07,680 --> 02:07:07,880
Speaker 2: it was?

2886
02:07:08,000 --> 02:07:10,720
Speaker 1: It was you know, never forget, never forget nine to eleven.

2887
02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:13,200
Speaker 1: That is something a lot going on there.

2888
02:07:13,480 --> 02:07:15,560
Speaker 2: Look, you ever see like an old eighties toy or

2889
02:07:15,600 --> 02:07:17,720
Speaker 2: piece of you know, something that just triggers all this

2890
02:07:17,960 --> 02:07:20,280
Speaker 2: like nostalgia that you never, of course, like you forgot

2891
02:07:20,440 --> 02:07:22,280
Speaker 2: was there? This happened to me for this phone. Check

2892
02:07:22,320 --> 02:07:23,560
Speaker 2: it out, guys, I have to show you what I

2893
02:07:23,600 --> 02:07:26,480
Speaker 2: got today. Got chaw?

2894
02:07:26,720 --> 02:07:27,440
Speaker 5: Are you kidding me?

2895
02:07:27,800 --> 02:07:29,280
Speaker 13: And when you pick up the phone, look at he

2896
02:07:29,360 --> 02:07:29,760
Speaker 13: wakes up.

2897
02:07:30,680 --> 02:07:32,320
Speaker 2: Isn't that so cool? Yeah?

2898
02:07:34,320 --> 02:07:35,560
Speaker 13: They hit the second hour.

2899
02:07:38,960 --> 02:07:39,640
Speaker 2: Very nostalgic.

2900
02:07:41,040 --> 02:07:42,600
Speaker 1: It's amazing to me that, like you know, I'm not

2901
02:07:42,680 --> 02:07:44,800
Speaker 1: that I'm in any way prescribing it or condoning it.

2902
02:07:44,920 --> 02:07:46,920
Speaker 1: But like people, you know, talking about the death of

2903
02:07:47,600 --> 02:07:50,440
Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk, people get very sensitive. And that's how it was.

2904
02:07:50,600 --> 02:07:53,240
Speaker 1: After nine to eleven. You could not make jokes about it.

2905
02:07:53,640 --> 02:07:55,560
Speaker 1: But now you can just joke about nine to eleven.

2906
02:07:55,680 --> 02:07:57,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it's very insensitive, but I'm just trying to

2907
02:07:57,960 --> 02:07:58,200
Speaker 2: show you.

2908
02:07:58,200 --> 02:07:59,760
Speaker 1: That people just joke about nine to eleven. Though.

2909
02:08:00,120 --> 02:08:01,920
Speaker 2: Now, speaking of New York City, it is a lot

2910
02:08:02,000 --> 02:08:05,280
Speaker 2: like regional mma, righting, anything can happen. Let's go to

2911
02:08:05,320 --> 02:08:06,640
Speaker 2: the subway. This is what we're gonna see in a

2912
02:08:06,640 --> 02:08:07,080
Speaker 2: few moments.

2913
02:08:07,400 --> 02:08:12,840
Speaker 1: Rather look at the parmesan cheese. She's grading over your

2914
02:08:12,960 --> 02:08:15,240
Speaker 1: plate of spaghetti. How much to eat a little piece.

2915
02:08:15,040 --> 02:08:18,120
Speaker 2: Of My god, that's disgusting. That is so disgusting.

2916
02:08:18,200 --> 02:08:19,560
Speaker 1: Let's go, bro, what the fuck?

2917
02:08:19,680 --> 02:08:21,879
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. Let's go to the highways.

2918
02:08:23,120 --> 02:08:26,000
Speaker 2: I have to say I've done this before. Yeah, all right,

2919
02:08:26,120 --> 02:08:29,040
Speaker 2: there is that's not the highway. That's that's man Midtown Manhattan.

2920
02:08:29,200 --> 02:08:32,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, brother, yeah, I have another one there?

2921
02:08:32,760 --> 02:08:33,160
Speaker 12: All right?

2922
02:08:33,360 --> 02:08:36,480
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, let's keep it going here. You want to

2923
02:08:36,520 --> 02:08:37,600
Speaker 2: run in the streets in New York.

2924
02:08:37,600 --> 02:08:42,480
Speaker 1: You gotta be careful. I start.

2925
02:08:43,360 --> 02:08:46,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I used to run track. Yeah, I smoke crack.

2926
02:08:48,840 --> 02:08:50,400
Speaker 1: That's a New Yorker if I've ever seen one.

2927
02:08:50,480 --> 02:08:51,800
Speaker 2: All Right, would you ever have a blind day with

2928
02:08:51,840 --> 02:08:52,680
Speaker 2: a girl named Katrina?

2929
02:08:52,800 --> 02:08:56,040
Speaker 1: Luke? I don't like where this is going. What's your name?

2930
02:08:56,120 --> 02:08:56,960
Speaker 12: My name's Katrina?

2931
02:08:57,320 --> 02:08:59,400
Speaker 1: Nice? Like the hurricane ri ip all those people?

2932
02:08:59,560 --> 02:09:01,280
Speaker 2: What thanks, We're gonna name me nine to eleven.

2933
02:09:01,400 --> 02:09:06,280
Speaker 1: But you can check out this third tower. Huh oh wow, okay, sweet.

2934
02:09:06,160 --> 02:09:09,200
Speaker 2: I'll just be a plane. Okay, all right, this is

2935
02:09:09,520 --> 02:09:11,160
Speaker 2: we need. We need censors on this show.

2936
02:09:11,280 --> 02:09:13,640
Speaker 1: Clearly there's a drive by shooter when you need all right,

2937
02:09:13,760 --> 02:09:15,160
Speaker 1: I got one more for you, Luke.

2938
02:09:15,480 --> 02:09:16,360
Speaker 2: Let's check this out.

2939
02:09:17,080 --> 02:09:17,640
Speaker 9: Good morning.

2940
02:09:18,480 --> 02:09:19,520
Speaker 12: Would you like some tea?

2941
02:09:22,280 --> 02:09:28,760
Speaker 2: Oh my, that's what the people are talking about on

2942
02:09:28,840 --> 02:09:30,680
Speaker 2: the internet this week. I hope you saw it, Luke.

2943
02:09:30,800 --> 02:09:35,280
Speaker 2: Oh my, I mean one one bag or two?

2944
02:09:35,720 --> 02:09:37,840
Speaker 1: I mean revolt?

2945
02:09:40,400 --> 02:09:45,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yea, the Internet wins again. That is our show

2946
02:09:45,840 --> 02:09:46,400
Speaker 2: for the week.

2947
02:09:48,240 --> 02:09:56,760
Speaker 1: Wow, I'm literally traumatized by that. I've seen some traumatic

2948
02:09:56,840 --> 02:09:59,840
Speaker 1: things in the last week. I'm sure you have as well. Yeah, yeah,

2949
02:10:00,080 --> 02:10:01,800
Speaker 1: that might be the worst. I don't know. But that

2950
02:10:01,920 --> 02:10:03,040
Speaker 1: might be the worst. All right.

2951
02:10:03,160 --> 02:10:04,360
Speaker 2: That's that's all we got here.

2952
02:10:04,480 --> 02:10:05,960
Speaker 1: So by our I need a shower.

2953
02:10:06,120 --> 02:10:09,120
Speaker 2: At Morningcombat dot shop, our exclusives will be available so

2954
02:10:09,200 --> 02:10:12,360
Speaker 2: they won't so check it out from black Liver.

2955
02:10:12,280 --> 02:10:14,600
Speaker 1: To how did that make it past the North Korean cents?

2956
02:10:14,680 --> 02:10:16,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if they work anymore.

2957
02:10:16,120 --> 02:10:18,120
Speaker 1: Look to be fair, all right, you.

2958
02:10:18,080 --> 02:10:21,400
Speaker 2: Can get an autographed poster of the TMNT. These are exclusive,

2959
02:10:21,480 --> 02:10:23,280
Speaker 2: they won't be here forever. Please jump in now and

2960
02:10:23,360 --> 02:10:25,720
Speaker 2: get it. It supports the show goes directly in the

2961
02:10:25,760 --> 02:10:29,800
Speaker 2: pockets of bc LT and the l I L. Also,

2962
02:10:29,880 --> 02:10:31,680
Speaker 2: we got evergreen items on there. You already know that

2963
02:10:32,560 --> 02:10:34,720
Speaker 2: Morning Coombat at gmail dot com is how you reach

2964
02:10:34,800 --> 02:10:37,120
Speaker 2: the show. You already know that you can like and

2965
02:10:37,200 --> 02:10:39,640
Speaker 2: subscribe here. Please, if you've been on this journey for

2966
02:10:39,640 --> 02:10:42,000
Speaker 2: a while, give us a like, give us a subscription,

2967
02:10:42,160 --> 02:10:45,800
Speaker 2: tell a friend, spread it all right, and support our

2968
02:10:45,840 --> 02:10:47,560
Speaker 2: YouTube channels as well. On Luke, what do you have

2969
02:10:47,600 --> 02:10:49,040
Speaker 2: to say for your YouTube channel this week?

2970
02:10:49,960 --> 02:10:51,680
Speaker 5: Nothing going on really this week? I was supposed to

2971
02:10:51,720 --> 02:10:54,120
Speaker 5: work yesterday, so I'm not doing a contender series stream tomorrow.

2972
02:10:54,240 --> 02:10:56,040
Speaker 5: Gaff is though, so go check that out.

2973
02:10:56,000 --> 02:10:58,600
Speaker 1: And then what's Gas channel xFC this weekend. I'm going

2974
02:10:58,600 --> 02:10:59,600
Speaker 1: to Vegas to commentate.

2975
02:11:00,040 --> 02:11:01,080
Speaker 5: Yeh, Luke, what day Friday?

2976
02:11:01,120 --> 02:11:04,560
Speaker 1: Saturday? Saturday? I think the main card starts at nine pm.

2977
02:11:04,720 --> 02:11:06,880
Speaker 1: It'll be on be in Sport. Yeah, I think that's right.

2978
02:11:06,920 --> 02:11:08,880
Speaker 2: I think you can also watch it on YouTube, but

2979
02:11:08,920 --> 02:11:09,440
Speaker 2: you have to pay.

2980
02:11:10,000 --> 02:11:11,600
Speaker 1: Yes. If you yes, you can watch it if you

2981
02:11:11,680 --> 02:11:16,120
Speaker 1: become like a subscribe a member of the xFC YouTube channel. Okay,

2982
02:11:17,480 --> 02:11:20,000
Speaker 1: I'll tweet out all the ways to watch and Johnny uh,

2983
02:11:20,200 --> 02:11:22,880
Speaker 1: Johnny Lacuasto. Yeah, and I think Jessica Aguilar is going

2984
02:11:22,920 --> 02:11:23,480
Speaker 1: to be there as well.

2985
02:11:24,160 --> 02:11:27,440
Speaker 2: Great, right there, Long Island, Luke, what's the GAFTS channel?

2986
02:11:27,920 --> 02:11:28,920
Speaker 5: One more round fight?

2987
02:11:29,040 --> 02:11:31,440
Speaker 2: So go check check out good jeffnew Jim Pierre and

2988
02:11:31,560 --> 02:11:32,760
Speaker 2: the supporter of the show.

2989
02:11:32,960 --> 02:11:34,800
Speaker 5: We'll have a new episode prop quiz Friday to find

2990
02:11:34,800 --> 02:11:36,000
Speaker 5: out who faces b C.

2991
02:11:36,400 --> 02:11:39,160
Speaker 2: So, Luke, did you see the episode that I took?

2992
02:11:39,520 --> 02:11:42,400
Speaker 2: I accident? It's like an accidental win. I accidentally beat my.

2993
02:11:42,480 --> 02:11:43,680
Speaker 1: Keck you did?

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Speaker 2: I did, and I was on I was on the

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Speaker 2: way if I could have remembered who was just teen

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Speaker 2: Kish's opponent when she shot her pants And I'm like

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Speaker 2: seeing Felice Hare the whole time. Yeah, and I just

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Speaker 2: couldn't come up with the name because I'm old. I

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Speaker 2: would have actually blown him out, but uh.

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Speaker 1: I put you are a formidable competitor.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Some people are wondering if I

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Speaker 2: can win this whole.

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Speaker 1: Thing now I would not. I'm not going to count

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Speaker 1: you out. You know. I'm always gonna root for the

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Speaker 1: guy that beat me, so I gotta go for you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Unless it was you know, non consensual,

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Speaker 2: then you know, I don't know if you're still chairing

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Speaker 2: for that guy.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: Hey, that's the show for the week for LT not believe.

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Speaker 1: That old lady with the tea. That is the worst

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Speaker 1: thing I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Hey, thank you to our guys feeling in for

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Speaker 2: Kennon a Deer today as well. Thank you, thank you

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Speaker 2: very much.

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Speaker 1: Do you think they have marijuana in their system?

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Speaker 2: Hope? So maybe we can get a close contact high.

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Speaker 2: That's the show. Take care of yourselves, we're out of here.