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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of I Saw What

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Speaker 1: You Did. My name is Billy Crystal.

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Speaker 2: And I'm Gregory Hines.

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Speaker 1: And we are Running Scared from Bad.

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Speaker 2: Movies this week.

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Speaker 1: So you posted this meme a few weeks ago that

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Speaker 1: was basically I was from the music video from Running Scared,

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Speaker 1: starting Billy Crystal and Gregory Hines, and you tagged me

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Speaker 1: and Casey Casey, our producer in it, and you were like,

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Speaker 1: this is basically what it's like to.

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Speaker 2: Record this podcast. It just when I saw the clip,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, well that's us. It just hit me. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: and Casey is naturally Michael McDonald try like just play

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Speaker 2: piano and sing and we're in the background acting like maniacs.

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Speaker 1: Casey I've heard him singing before, like as he's doing

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Speaker 1: it as a joke, like he'll do it on his

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Speaker 1: own podcast and he'll do it as a joke.

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Speaker 2: But he's got a great voice. I know secrets. See

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you that freak dad ship they hide stuff.

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Speaker 2: So he quite is Michael McDonald.

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Speaker 1: If I wish I could even I wish I could

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Speaker 1: do a parody Michael McDonald's song right now, should try

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Speaker 1: just go just what do you what? There's not even words,

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Speaker 1: It's just.

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Speaker 2: Just right into it. What a good sport, casey, do

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Speaker 2: not edit that out?

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Speaker 1: Being tagged in that that made me so happy.

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Speaker 2: It made me so happy. It's us. I'll post it again.

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Speaker 2: We'll post it on our show podcast this week. We'll

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Speaker 2: post it again.

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Speaker 1: I love our I love our fucked up little eighties

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Speaker 1: buddy comedy movie completely completely.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's the summer vibe. Midnight run running scared, all

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Speaker 2: the runs on DNC, all.

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Speaker 3: The runs, all the runs. What's happening good?

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty good. I'm I'm footloose and fancy free right now,

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Speaker 2: just table sawing my wayns coating so I can redo

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Speaker 2: my foyer. My foyer, my foyer.

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Speaker 1: Sounds fancy, Wayne scouting, huh yeah, I'm gonna throw some

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Speaker 1: of that shit up there.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to pick colors because it's already dark, Like

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Speaker 2: my house downstairs doesn't get a lot of sunlight, so

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Speaker 2: it's super dark. So I'm trying to like, so I

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Speaker 2: picked I think some good colors and some peel and

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Speaker 2: stick wallpaper and just gonna brighten it up a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Is the first thing I see when I walk out

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Speaker 2: a fucking house.

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Speaker 1: You're trying to get that house runny for why not

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Speaker 1: show up? Absolutely in a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I'll be like, check this, check this, change out a fall?

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Speaker 2: Is it fall?

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Speaker 1: It'll be fall by the time I come up there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's gonna be nice.

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Speaker 1: Our fall concert bonanza exactly.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I can't wait. Speaking of concert bonanza, how are

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Speaker 2: you doing?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Are you talking about my my concerting that it's

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Speaker 1: been happening for the past couple months.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've been going hard this summer. I love it.

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Speaker 2: I should say spring and summer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, I've been. It's been nutty, Like I've been

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Speaker 1: doing and seeing things that I've never experienced in my life.

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Speaker 2: You're seeing new bands, you're not just going for the old.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna drag our walkers on stage reunion tours.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I mean there's those, but then there's like

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Speaker 1: just brand spanking new experiences of bands that I've never

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Speaker 1: I've never thought in a million years that I would

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Speaker 1: ever be interested in. But I have to say, remember

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Speaker 1: that conversation that we had a while back about concert tickickets,

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Speaker 1: right yea, and about how the costs the current cost

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Speaker 1: of big concerts is so expensive that it. It basically

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Speaker 1: means that it's hard for normal people to walk and

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Speaker 1: blind into a concert experience if you've never heard of

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Speaker 1: a man right, Well, here's the thing about that. So

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Speaker 1: I've this is going to be potentially a meandering, winding

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Speaker 1: to attempt to tell it to you anyway. I got

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Speaker 1: two free sets of tickets to see a very specific

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Speaker 1: genre of music in the past couple weeks, okay, And

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Speaker 1: because they were free, I felt like I was like, fine,

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Speaker 1: I'll go, like why not free? Not only were they free,

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Speaker 1: but they were like upgraded experiences.

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Speaker 2: So I get free upgrade experience. Did you want to

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Speaker 2: win a contest on the radio? Did you put your

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Speaker 2: business card in a bowl on a coffee counter?

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Speaker 1: I wrote a self addressed, stamped envelope to MTV, I

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Speaker 1: want to be a VJ contest MTV. Paint your house

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Speaker 1: like John Cougar Mellencamp.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 1: In fact, it's only because I have friends that work

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Speaker 1: in cool places. Now, yeah, do you know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 1: That is the age we are at well, and it's

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Speaker 1: like it's kind of amazing because it's it's sort of

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Speaker 1: like a testament to like how some of your most

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Speaker 1: insane dirtbag friends can actually like pick up their lives

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Speaker 1: and make something of themselves, but they're still like coolest shit.

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Speaker 1: And then they're like, hey, do you want to go

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Speaker 1: to free a free concert at at the venue I

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Speaker 1: work with, with the band I work with, whatever, And

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Speaker 1: you're just like, hell yeah, this is so greatly I'm

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Speaker 1: glad that we all climbed out of the gutter because

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Speaker 1: in middle age now we can do stuff like this

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Speaker 1: for free. You know, no cuss me and listen. Let

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Speaker 1: me tell you something right now. If you tell me, hey,

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Speaker 1: come see this band, you've literally not heard any songs

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Speaker 1: by them, or you've never even really like experienced the

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Speaker 1: genre that they play in. If we give you chicken

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Speaker 1: fingers and salad and cutcakes and free drinks, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: hell yeah, I'll come to that shit. Am I gonna

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Speaker 1: sit in a comfy chair, not like a stadium chair,

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Speaker 1: like captain's club chair. Hell yeah, I'll go there. There

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Speaker 2: Won't do for a chicken finger Because also at that point,

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Speaker 2: you're like, even if it sucks. It's a night out

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Speaker 2: and it's free food. Yeahs. And so here's what happened.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll try to go backwards a little bit, give

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Speaker 1: you a little context. A friend of mine named Eddie,

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Speaker 1: who I've talked about on this podcast many times, used

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Speaker 1: to work with me when I was at Warner Brothers.

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Speaker 1: He works at Adult Swim. He's a movie guy. He's

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Speaker 1: the King of Halloween in Atlanta, by the way. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if anybody knows that, but he's the heart.

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Speaker 1: I call him the hardest working man in Halloween. He

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Speaker 1: is a huge fan of Korean pop music otherwise known

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Speaker 1: as K pop.

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Speaker 4: And.

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Speaker 1: I am not traditionally drawn to that genre. I will

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Speaker 1: say that I do. I have dabbled in boy bands,

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Speaker 1: right because obviously new kids on the block. The first

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Speaker 1: my parents never let me go to concerts when I

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Speaker 1: was a kid because they were too expensive. Right, Like

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Speaker 1: we talked about this, We're like, the concert tickets used

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Speaker 2: Go mo eighty five lons and maybe we'll drive you there.

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Speaker 1: They didn't even want to pay Yeah, they didn't even

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Speaker 1: So I never went to like big arena concert shows

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Speaker 1: on the nose Strings Attached tour, Oh my god. And

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Speaker 1: that was actually a free show for me too, weirdly enough,

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Speaker 2: It's an influencer cabin.

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Speaker 1: Now, yeah, it is a it is an airbnb meon

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Speaker 2: And I mean, you're.

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Speaker 1: Talking to We're a couple of bitches who were walking

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Speaker 1: into five dollars Fugazi shows. So you can't even imagine

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Speaker 1: the experience that was for me, because I was like, yo,

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Speaker 2: The I Also, I also love the risk of like, yes,

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Speaker 2: job because my friends are fucking crazy. Dude.

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Speaker 1: That is the most true statement that it's ever been

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Speaker 2: Party or something. Oh love them dearly, But I'm twenty

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Speaker 2: four years old working for the United Nations. Ain't no

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Speaker 2: way I'm bringing these motherfuckers on a tour. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: And actually it's so funny because as I got older,

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Speaker 2: Shay's lounge and stuff.

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Speaker 1: Their friend got wasted during the intermission and then at

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Speaker 1: some point walked onto the set and tried to pour

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Speaker 1: this is fucking incredible.

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Speaker 1: This is why you do not bring your friends to

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Speaker 1: work stuff in your twenties period.

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Speaker 2: Or it's why you do. Could you I need the story? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Good too good?

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Speaker 1: So anyway, yeah, I mean it was a risk for

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Speaker 1: it was honestly something like I've never experienced in my life.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was insane. It was like, first of all,

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I love that it does cut my plans

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Speaker 1: So and I was like, I am not gonna stand

439
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 1: on the floor for three hours, right, because that was

440
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: kind of my first instinct when he told me he

441
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 1: wanted to go see them. I was like totally, am

442
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: I about to spend one hundred dollars to stand on

443
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 1: a concrete floor for three hours. And I was kind

444
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: of shook by that. Silently, I didn't want to tell

445
00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 1: him that, but I was shook.

446
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 2: But this is a thing.

447
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: So we got the suite basically, and it had free food,

448
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: It was comfy chairs, it was perfect. It was like

449
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,719
Speaker 1: right above the stage, which, by the way, I have

450
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: to say, knowing now what I know about K pop,

451
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 1: it's better to see it up top anyway, because there's

452
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: a light show. There's fucking like moving parts. And when

453
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: you think busted out of a fake Barbie doll box

454
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 1: was hot, like these motherfuckers had fire. There was an

455
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: entire set. By the way, the band that I saw

456
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: was called TXT. It stands for Tomorrow by Together, Okay,

457
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 1: And if you're like tomorrow bye by other, yeah, TXT,

458
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: because X is by. I don't know, well, I don't

459
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: know what. I know what it is tomorrow and together

460
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: what listen. I don't question now knowing the names of

461
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: some of these kapap fans, I don't question. I'm just

462
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 1: like a lot of them are like a series of numbers.

463
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like a It's like that George Lucas

464
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: film what's it called tx THHX eleven or something.

465
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

466
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 5: Yeah.

467
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm just like, okay, this this is I

468
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: don't know. This is maybe an industry standard, and I

469
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: don't know what it means.

470
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 2: But we're gonna find out in twenty years that they

471
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 2: were like the first wave of AI robots doctrinating all

472
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: of us. They might be.

473
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: They were so attractive that they were not real to me, Like,

474
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 1: this is the thing. They're on the same label as BTS. Yeah,

475
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 1: BTS has been in the game for like a decade,

476
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: so they're like in their late twenties early thirties. These

477
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: ticks Ta guys are like twenty one twenty two. Oh,

478
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: and they were like perfect human beings, Like they had

479
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: flawless skin like in a way, and I'm not talking

480
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,479
Speaker 1: about face, I'm talking about shoulders and arms, Like how

481
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 1: do you have flawless shoulders?

482
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 2: Not even like a mosquito bite scar.

483
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 1: No, there's no egzema, there's no plaqux risis, there's no

484
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: like scars.

485
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 3: And it was perfectly perfect skin tone.

486
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: And I was just like, oh my god, being twenty

487
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 1: two is amazing, Like what the fuck they and they

488
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: danced like motherfuckers it was really like it got kicked

489
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 1: up a notchrum in sync. Now that I know what

490
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: I know about K pop, I'm like, Yo, in sync,

491
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: these guys are running around like fucking.

492
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 2: Zinc is phoning it in. No the way that in

493
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 2: sync moves.

494
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 1: Compared to these dudes, I'm like, they're like linebackers without rhythm, Like.

495
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 2: They're they're in sync is doing the Super Bowl shovel.

496
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're basically the refrigerator Parry trying to dance to

497
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: their fucking rap song in nineteen eighty four.

498
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 2: Like it's not. I was like, no, the Boyman experience

499
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 2: got kicked up.

500
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 1: Several latches and there was all these like skits in

501
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: between where there it was like a fucking so dramatic

502
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: and so like everything was clicking into place, and I

503
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: just and this is like what was blowing my mind

504
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: because I was just like and and there's no opening band,

505
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: no opening who feeling.

506
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 2: We're doing the full three hours? Yo, three hours.

507
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: They were pumping and flexing for three hours. Everybody was

508
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: going absolutely batshit crazy, Like the whole arena was so

509
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: loud that I swear to God. At one point I

510
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: walked into the bathroom. There's a private bathroom in the suite.

511
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: I'm sorry there is it is absolutely wonderful. There was

512
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: a fucking box of tampons on the top of the

513
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: toilet tank. I grabbed the tampon, undid the cotton.

514
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 3: And stuck him in my ears because it was so loud.

515
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,959
Speaker 2: It was so loud in there. How did they not

516
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 2: have ear plugs in that suite?

517
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, well by actually one of my friends who I

518
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: found out it was on the crew. I actually found

519
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 1: out another friend of mine, another dirt back front of mine,

520
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 1: is on the crew of d T And so he

521
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: came up and was like he actually walked up to

522
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: the suite and said, here are real earplugs, so you

523
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 1: don't put tampons in your ears. It was like, I

524
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 1: love having friends that are old and have good jobs.

525
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 1: Yeah so, but I mean, it was it was unreal.

526
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: And then at the end there was literally, like I swear,

527
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: it was like a full ten minutes where those dudes

528
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: walked around the stage and said I love you to everyone,

529
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: like they were like, thanks for coming, love you.

530
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,719
Speaker 3: Thank you, love you. I love you, guys, thanks for coming,

531
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 3: love you.

532
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: And I was like, yo, they love us, they love us,

533
00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: and they're the kool aid talking.

534
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,719
Speaker 2: That is, that's manipulative as shit, because that's how they

535
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 2: get you where you're like, they love me, they love

536
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: only me.

537
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's gonna be worthy a whole other podcast.

538
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: Because the paris social shit of K pop is you

539
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: would drop dead.

540
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: You would drop dead.

541
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: Like now that these boy bands have like Instagram stories

542
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: and TikTok and their own like live thieds, they literally

543
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: it is literally like they're facetiming with you.

544
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's insane.

545
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: Like you can literally be like, yo, my favorite K

546
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: pop star, I have to like log into this platform

547
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: so that we can FaceTime because they're in their living

548
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: room eating food in front of a can.

549
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: That is I can as a longtime fan of things.

550
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 2: That is something that still blows my fucking mind.

551
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: Yo, It's all up several notches, girl. I mean like,

552
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: if I would have thought that, like Jordan Knight could,

553
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: if I could watch Jordan Night eat on a cam,

554
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: I would be dead. I think I would have I'd

555
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: be like a totally different person.

556
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 2: Also, I love I love that you put Jordan in there,

557
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 2: and we know, goddamn well, your boy was Danny.

558
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: He was not Danny, How fucking dare you.

559
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 2: Donnie, sorry, Donnie, not Donnie, Jonathan than the oldest one possible?

560
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: How dare you with both of those choices?

561
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 2: Either way, it wasn't Jordan. It was the oldest one possible.

562
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: But Jordan and Jonathan are brothers, so I can I

563
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: can stay, I can be a bie be my bias,

564
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: as they say in the K pop world. But I'm

565
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: just saying, like, the amount of access that people have

566
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: to these celebrities is insane.

567
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: But I digress.

568
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: I mean, when it comes down to it, this was

569
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: like one of the fucking greatest, most entertaining shows I've

570
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: ever seen in my life. And I was like, yo,

571
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that because this is free. I'm saying

572
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: it because it's fact. Like I'm like, these dudes worked

573
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: their ass off and I was like, damn amazed by that.

574
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: So K pop in general puts on a great show.

575
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: A plus would recommend.

576
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 3: Dude, It's beyond anything I've ever experienced.

577
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 2: Because there's all these others, like technology.

578
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: They have these like light sticks that look like kind

579
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: of like those things that you put along the side

580
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: of your driveway. They're like those like solar lights. They

581
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: kind of look like that, but they cost like eighty bucks.

582
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: And apparently they turn colors with the music, like you

583
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: program it at the concert and when the music is playing,

584
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: it turns colors.

585
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 2: Bitch, I had a glowworm that did that in nineteen

586
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: eighty three. These kids didn't invent that. Ah, they finessed it,

587
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: but they didn't invent that shit. But that's incredible.

588
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: It's amazing, Like I mean, like, do you realize, how

589
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: do you realize how.

590
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 2: Not this We've experienced music for.

591
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: So long totally there we were. We were going to.

592
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 3: See bands where people weren't looking at us at all.

593
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: All literal shoegaze music and ps the only because it

594
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: sounds like this is a very communal experience for the audience,

595
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 2: for the listeners, for the fans.

596
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, back in the day, if you wanted to be in.

597
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: A community with people who liked the same music that

598
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: you liked, you had to fight them. That's what mosh

599
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: pits were for. That was the only contact you had

600
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 2: with people who liked your fucking music. Yeah, you're like,

601
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 2: let's fucking box. It was the most violent, aggressive weirdness

602
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: or nobody's talking, everyone's crying, were all sad together, but

603
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: no one's acknowledging it. This is a whole different level.

604
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: The community aspect, like some of the like they're all

605
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: dressed up, like a lot of people come dressed up.

606
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: They come and they like bring free things from people.

607
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: Like I saw like girls running around handing out like

608
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: little friendship bracelets and jolly ranchers, and I was like,

609
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: this is so cute, Like this is so cute.

610
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: That's truly adorable.

611
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: And they all like like have they call them biases,

612
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: meaning I guess this is like your favorite member of

613
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: the band. And then you have to know your bias,

614
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: because that's the other thing too, is that I didn't

615
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: have a bias when I rolled up to that TXT

616
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: show and I was like, let me find one real quick.

617
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 2: And as it turns out, there's a guy in.

618
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: TXT who's half Asian, and I'm like, that's my boy.

619
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: I'm also half Asian. Let's represent together. So that's my bias.

620
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: His name is Kai apparently. But it's like a language.

621
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: It's like a language that they speak, and I'm just like, yo,

622
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: this is kind of cute, Like this is nothing like

623
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: I've ever experienced, Like I mean, this is like we're

624
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: not talking about like indie rock shit from our era.

625
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: This is like a whole It is like the future

626
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: or something.

627
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: I don't know.

628
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: I mean, some of it seems a little scary to me,

629
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: but some of this other stuff is really sweet.

630
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 2: It sounds like it'd a fucking blast and you learned

631
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: a lot and you got to research which is your favorite?

632
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: Oh, love a research hole, Love a research hole.

633
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, I don't.

634
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: Want to dig too deep into this industry because it

635
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: seems insane, because it is like the factory aspect. I mean,

636
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: I just hope that it's not the kind of thing

637
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 1: where like James Brown is charging his band members fifty

638
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: dollars for fucking up.

639
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: I hope that's not happening there. Oh, like all their

640
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 2: work they're doing on stage, it's like for every time

641
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 2: you don't change the toilet paper on the plane or

642
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 2: the bus, you have to do five humps.

643
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: You turned left instead of rights, so you don't get

644
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: to eat today. I don't want that to be the case.

645
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: But from one experience, I think it's lovely and I'm

646
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: happy for the fans that are super super into it

647
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: because it feels like this is like the thing that

648
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: they like, and I don't know. I had a great time,

649
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: so I tried something new and it paid off.

650
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: And it paid off. You got to see it. This

651
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 2: is what it used to be like. You got to

652
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 2: see a show you knew nothing about. You fell in love.

653
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: And let me tell you right now, when when BTS

654
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: comes back from the army and if they decide to

655
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: do one of these shows, I'm going I might actually pay.

656
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: I gotta say that's how fun these shows are.

657
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 2: And between the between the army and the boy band years,

658
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 2: they better start taking care of those knees when they

659
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 2: get out of the army rehab. Be doing some backbrace,

660
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: some icy hot work. You know.

661
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: I could give them so many tips on that, Like

662
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: I used to deadlift James Kahn. I know what it's

663
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:50,919
Speaker 1: liked to ice knees. Okay, should we like get into

664
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: movies or what?

665
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 2: Yes? I feel like we should get into some movies

666
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 2: for sure. But I also want to say that I

667
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 2: do think the next level for you is when your

668
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 2: nephews get to a certain age and you can take

669
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 2: them to these dope ass experiences and oh, you're like

670
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: instant cool. I mean you're already cool, aunt, but like

671
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: that is an unsurpassable moment when you're like, oh, we're

672
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 2: going to see your favorite band in style. Listen.

673
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: I know you're like ten, but you were about to

674
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: be iced out in a way you've never been iced

675
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: out four to concert. Maybe for all those years that

676
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: I didn't get to do shit.

677
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 2: Now you get to do all the good shit. Yes, yes,

678
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: let's get into these movies.

679
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 1: Let's go.

680
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: So, speaking of kids.

681
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: Gone wild, perhaps we have a theme this week that

682
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: is super super fun.

683
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 2: Uh, do you want to talk about it? I do.

684
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: It's very summary and straight from my brain because it

685
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: was weird to me that no one ever pointed this

686
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 2: out to us. So the theme this week is remember

687
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: your counselor is also a kid. Like I feel like

688
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 2: most of our childhood was just kids watching kids, and

689
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 2: nobody pointing that out. Oh one hundred percent.

690
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: I did you ever have that experience? I'm sure like

691
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: every job was that, Like every job was like kids

692
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: managing other kids.

693
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 2: Absolutely, we were a lawless territory working papers and you know,

694
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 2: working cards and permits and all that barely existed by

695
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 2: the time I started working. So you could have a

696
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 2: fifteen year old Boston around a twelve year old at

697
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 2: the drive in theater food stand. Yeah.

698
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 1: My first job digit Yeah, my first job at Dumpkin Donuts.

699
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: As everybody knows, I think I was. I started when

700
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: I was fifteen, and my manager was like, seventeen, what

701
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: is up with that?

702
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 2: That seems crazy now, I know in retrospect. At the time,

703
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: you're like, this is all right, this is fine. They

704
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 2: get it. And now in retrospect you're like, I could

705
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: have robbed everywhere. It was just children running every single

706
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 2: fucking store.

707
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 3: I mean a movie theater is literally run by high

708
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 3: school kids.

709
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I started jumping in and out of

710
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 2: theaters and skipping in and out of movies. My great

711
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 2: not pointed that out because she was the one who

712
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: taught me how to do that. Yeah, And I was like,

713
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: we're gonna get caught. She's like, by who. They're all kids,

714
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh shit. And then it's like

715
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 2: you look around and it's like that scene and they

716
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: live where all the faces are like you put the

717
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: sunglasses on and like everyone's a fucking alien, and you're like,

718
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 2: oh my god, they're all kids.

719
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 5: Yeah.

720
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: The most kid manager phrase that has ever existed is nah,

721
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: you're good.

722
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 4: Ah.

723
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: Like, anytime I've been in a situation where a teenager

724
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: is in charge and I've asked for something, they'd be like, NA,

725
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: you're good, that's their managerial style. I'm like, oh cool,

726
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: So you mean if I just like come behind the

727
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: counter and make myself a flatbread pizza, that's fine. Now

728
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: you're good.

729
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: Oh No. It was great fun though. It was super

730
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: fucking fun, incredibly dangerous, incredibly dangerous, but just super fun.

731
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 2: I think that's why we kind of wanted to go

732
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 2: with this theme, because it was just it was just

733
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 2: a fun fucking time. Yeah.

734
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: I mean, like like you said, I mean, this is summer.

735
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: We like to do summary movies like this. We like

736
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: to do you know, weeks where it's literally like teenagers

737
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: in the late seventies and early eighties doing crazy shit.

738
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: And I feel like we satisfied that requirement this week

739
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 1: because honestly, I've never seen your movie before. In fact,

740
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: the only time i'd ever heard of your movie when

741
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: you referenced it.

742
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. See, this is how I know. I grew up

743
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: watching way too much, fucking, way too much fucking TV.

744
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: I was an indoor kid and we had HBO, and

745
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: I saw everything.

746
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'd never heard. And then I was like,

747
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: holy fuck, Kevin Bacon's in this movie, Like, how come

748
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 1: I've never heard of this Kevin Bacon.

749
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 2: Sean Aston and I don't know if you picked up

750
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 2: on this, but the guy who plays Mitch Jonathan Ward

751
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 2: also played Beans Baxter.

752
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: WHOA, that's a full circle moment for you, full circle

753
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: for me. Well, you're going first this week, right I am.

754
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: Indeed I'm going first for our theme of remember your

755
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 2: Counselor is also a kid Kid's Gone Wild. My movie

756
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 2: was released in nineteen eighty seven. The screenplay is by

757
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 2: Ernest Cannoy and Manya Starr. It was directed by Jeff Bleckner.

758
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 2: My movie is Whitewater Summer. I'm such a bet a

759
00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: half a while on the other side of the.

760
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: School, you know, there was a there is and was

761
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: a place in Atlanta called Whitewater and it was a

762
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: water park and I spent many many summers there unsupervised,

763
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 1: dropped off for like literally twelve hours.

764
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,240
Speaker 2: Oh that was it. That's the Southern action park.

765
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely.

766
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, just that's all. Parents were just like water fucking

767
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 2: tidepool slap in again, run by teenagers. We will drop

768
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: our child off there for the day and hope they're

769
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 2: there when we get back.

770
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if they get fine, like whatever.

771
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: Fine trench foot fucking ringworm whatever, that.

772
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: Trench foot ringworm. It's like the blue Star ointment commercials

773
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: that they used to play after Uh Jerry Springer trench

774
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: foot ring worm psoriasis and removes corns and calluses blue

775
00:41:58,640 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: star ointment, the one that's scared.

776
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: If they're still around, drop us some dollars, you get

777
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 2: free ad.

778
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: I saw what you did, pot oft gmails, blue Star Ointment,

779
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: Let's go.

780
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. This was the world we lived in, where it

781
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 2: was parents looking at a stretch of months where we

782
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 2: would not be in school and just saying, I guess

783
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 2: you'll figure it out, and then booting us outside and

784
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,959
Speaker 2: letting us run free and not being allowed inside the house.

785
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 2: I have a whole chapter about this in my memoir,

786
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: drinking from the hose on the side of the house

787
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: and just being fucking wild. So if you went to

788
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 2: camp as a kid, as far as I was concerned,

789
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 2: you're fucking rich.

790
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

791
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 2: Any anybody who got to go to any kind of camp,

792
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 2: I don't care if it was girl scout camp, I

793
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 2: don't care what kind of camp it was. You were

794
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 2: loaded because your parents were thoughtful enough to pay for

795
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 2: you to be around other people that could care for them. Yeah.

796
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: No, the fact that they paid is the cruise. Yeah,

797
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: any kind of camp that like, it could be you know,

798
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: Craft's Camp, k pop Camp, whatever the fuck it is.

799
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: I never went to any.

800
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 2: Of that stuff me if it was free.

801
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: Like if my parents, like, you want to go to

802
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: the mall, just go, I'll drop you off the mall, Like,

803
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: but I'm sending you to a camp wrap to buy supplies.

804
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 2: And now it's really it's pretty standard. I mean, every

805
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 2: kid I know goes to multiple camps, uh huh, every

806
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: all summer long. But back in our day, when this

807
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 2: shit was happening, when our movies were happening, wasn't even

808
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: a glimmer in anyone's eyes to actually do something with

809
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 2: children during the summer. Yeah, so I love it. I

810
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 2: think that my movie is it's not great, and it's

811
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 2: not it's not a widely seen movie. But if if

812
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 2: it fills, if it's the bill and I got some moments,

813
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: it's not it's when I say it's not great. It's

814
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 2: not like an Oscar winning movie, obviously, but it's highly entertaining.

815
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 2: Oh I agree, So I'm gonna give you my one sentence.

816
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 2: My one sentence synopsis of Whitewater Summer, a precocious New

817
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 2: York City teenager gets rocked to his core when he's

818
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 2: sent on a six week summer camp experience with a

819
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 2: sadistic stranger. Yes, so this is also part of the mythos.

820
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: The ethos of what was happening back in the day

821
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: is this guy named Vic played by Kevin Bacon would

822
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: walk into the city, into New York City with his

823
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 2: pack on approach parents with his slide projector showing all

824
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: the hiking and rocks and fishing and canoeing that they

825
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 2: would do, and be like, so you're gonna send your

826
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 2: kid with me or what? And that's how people used

827
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 2: to make money back in the day.

828
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 1: That is absolutely insane to think about.

829
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 5: Like no bedding and no way to bet even if

830
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 5: you wanted to, no way to bet, no betting, none

831
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 5: of that shit.

832
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 2: Give me your child looks like fun, isn't it. Yep?

833
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 2: All right? Cool? And it seems there's a hint that Alan,

834
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 2: who's the Sean Aston teen character, there's a hint with that.

835
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 2: Maybe the dad found Vic, but there's no understanding as

836
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: to how or why.

837
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's basically like Kevin Bacon's character

838
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: is a vacuum repair salesman and then someone's child just

839
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: wanders off with him for multi exactly days. That's week,

840
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: six weeks, six weeks. Wait a minute, I realized six.

841
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: This was a six week experience. Bitch, what.

842
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 3: They were out there for six weeks?

843
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 2: Six weeks? A lot can happened in six weeks. A

844
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 2: lot can happened in the woods. Hell in the woods.

845
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 2: So Alan the kid, he's smart, and he knows his shit,

846
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: and he knows himself. So he up to this point

847
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 2: has done multiple kinds of camps, you know, computer camp

848
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 2: and whatever, but he absolutely will not do outdoor camping.

849
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 2: That is where he draws the line. So when his

850
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 2: parents bring Vic to the house with his projector and

851
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 2: they're like, hey, we got this six week summer course,

852
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: what do you think and He's like, I am not

853
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 2: doing it. I'm not doing it, and then of course

854
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 2: he ends up going. And what's hilarious right off the

855
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 2: bat in this movie, something that is very funny to

856
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 2: me is it is so clear that Sean Aston has

857
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 2: gone through puberty by the time he films the interstitial

858
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 2: talking parts, Like when he filmed the movie, his balls

859
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 2: had not dropped. When he's coming back to do the

860
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 2: in between talkie parts, he's like, got a beard, Like

861
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: it's just too funny. I know.

862
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: I was actually like they aged him really well, what

863
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: the hell I thought it was all? I thought it

864
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: was makeup. I didn't realize he was actually older. It

865
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: was actually older.

866
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 2: And he's like this, but he knows his shit, like

867
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 2: he's a New York City kid. He's kind of like,

868
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not really up for this, but he's

869
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 2: gonna give it a shot. And he's giving it a

870
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 2: shot with vic So. Vic is a guy who can

871
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 2: start a mean fire. He knows some constellations, he can

872
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 2: catch a fish with his bare hands. He's absolutely going

873
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 2: to turn your kids into a doo wop group on

874
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 2: the drive up to New Hampshire wherever the fuck they were.

875
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 2: And he's also that one white guy who's super obsessed

876
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: with Native American lore and like tai Chi. So he's

877
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: basically teen Roadhouse. He's teen James Dalton, He's Dalton.

878
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 3: He could rip a throat with his bare hands.

879
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: This guy in a few years, he's going to be

880
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 2: the most in demand bodyguard of all time.

881
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: Actually, you know what, the first thing I thought of

882
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: when I saw this movie and I saw his character

883
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: enter into the screen.

884
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 2: He is a shaman named Greg. He is he is

885
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 2: a That is a shaman named Greg if I ever

886
00:47:58,719 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: saw one.

887
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: He knows a little something about Asian weaponry.

888
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 2: He's got a sword on a wall. He's got a katana.

889
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: Don't call it a sword, it's a fucking katana. He

890
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 2: absolutely has a red pair of red wing boots with

891
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 2: some scrunchy socks, some handmade cut off jeans, a handnit sweater,

892
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 2: and he will wake up early to work out in

893
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 2: his jeans.

894
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's like the counselors from sleep Away Camp.

895
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 1: He's like a tone sexy, booty short nature guy.

896
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 2: This This is an incredible look for Kevin Bacon, by

897
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 2: the way, like sunkissed hair tan. He looks amazing, dude,

898
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 2: an incredible look for young Bacon, who I might add,

899
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 2: if you're not following on Instagram, I feel like he's

900
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: one of our best celebrities. Really, what does he do?

901
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 2: He's truly delightful. He's very funny, truly quite funny. He's

902
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: old enough to not do anything that's embarrassing, So he's

903
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 2: not out here like screaming skimmitty toilet or something like.

904
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 2: He's just kind of like he's playing his music. He

905
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 2: shows his family. He occasionally partakes in some like you know,

906
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 2: viral video kind of stuff, but he like lives on

907
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 2: a farm and just kind of hangs. He shows himself,

908
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 2: like dancing with his wife Kira Sedgwick and just like

909
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 2: talking about how much he loves her, like he's a

910
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: good dude.

911
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 3: Will he have a parasocial relationship with us? Does he

912
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 3: look at look into the camera and says I love

913
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 3: you guys.

914
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 2: He does look into the camera a lot. I've yet

915
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 2: heard him say I love you guys. I'm telling you.

916
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 2: But maybe that's what got me is I'm like, I'm

917
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 2: close to Kevin Bacon now.

918
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: See I live, I live. I gotta follow him.

919
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 2: I need that. And actually, and aside, I've actually met

920
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 2: him quite a few times because my friend, yeah, my

921
00:49:55,280 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 2: friend used to be his nanny, whoa amazing like twenty

922
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 2: years like back in the day, Kevin. So I've met

923
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 2: both of them and they are He's really nice in person.

924
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 2: He's very funny.

925
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: Listen, we did Tremors and we talked about him at length.

926
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 2: So let's let's get him past Modean on the modin scale.

927
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:19,720
Speaker 2: I think we need to do more Bacon.

928
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bacon. I saw what you did. Pot at gmail

929
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: dot com. If you want to do a podcast, we'll

930
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: talk to you. Hell yeah, but lose Tremors.

931
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 2: We've covered them all. But what's hilarious about him being

932
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 2: an actually good dude is that he plays an absolute

933
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 2: fucking monster in this movie. Yeah, dude, he's such a

934
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 2: fucking prick in this movie. So he is, like he's

935
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 2: going on this this six week trip with four children,

936
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 2: so it's five people total. It's Vic, two nerds, and

937
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 2: two delinquents. That's kind of like how it shakes out right,

938
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 2: and all's kind of going well in the beginning. To

939
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 2: drive up there is fine, Alan, you can tell right off.

940
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 2: The bet is no, he's not he's not partaking, he's

941
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 2: not a joiner. And everything he tries to do he's

942
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 2: very very bad at. He has a very hard time

943
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 2: being out in the wilderness. Yeah, and so he's constantly

944
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 2: rocked to his fucking core, including just carrying water from

945
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 2: one place to another like he can't do it. But

946
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 2: his dad did buy him a crocodile dundee bowie knife

947
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 2: before he fucking went on this trip, and the first

948
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 2: thing he does is use it to fuck the fuck up,

949
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 2: because he carves his initial into a tree and gets

950
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 2: his knife privileges taken away for a little bit. So

951
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 2: the first thing this New York City brat does in

952
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 2: nature is mar a tree, and Vic is not here

953
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 2: for that. Vic is one with the universe. You can't

954
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 2: call it a Riyon's belt because he knows the modoc

955
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 2: name for it. He's that motherfucker he is. So they

956
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 2: leave the van eventually and they hook it. So now

957
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: they're in the woods. They're going on this week's long

958
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 2: hike to this Devil's tooth like mountain like this this rock,

959
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 2: I think it's deff. Can you believe I did not

960
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,240
Speaker 2: write that down the name of this fucking mountain, Devil's Tooth,

961
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 2: Devil's Rock. I was just watching it. I was barely

962
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,720
Speaker 2: even taking notes. I was just in my glory remembering

963
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 2: being nine years old watching this fucking movie. The Devil's

964
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 2: the trench Foot, the Devil's Cameltoe. They're climbing up the

965
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 2: face of it. So they're kind of like out in

966
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 2: the woods for a while. So everything they have with

967
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: them is what they need to survive, and they're you know,

968
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 2: catching fish to eat like they're they're roughing it. They're

969
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 2: truly roughing it. So one night, and this is where

970
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 2: the whole movie turns because Vic is trying to get

971
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,919
Speaker 2: Alan to participate and he asks him if he wants

972
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 2: to play chess. He's like, I've got this travel chess board.

973
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: You said you're into chess, and his ego is so

974
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 2: shattered when Alan beats him that he spends the rest

975
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 2: of this trip and this movie making Alan's life a

976
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 2: living hell because he beat him at chess. Now, to

977
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 2: his credit, Alan is a pain in the ass. He's

978
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 2: absolutely a spoiled brat. But the response to that should

979
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 2: not be I'm going to force this little kid to

980
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 2: canoe down a terrifying whitewater fucking river, yeah, which is

981
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 2: absolutely what he does.

982
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: Yeah that, I gotta say that felt very uncomfortable for me,

983
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: like the entire film, because I think I'm just super

984
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: sensitive towards the ways in which like adults can treat

985
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: kids like as like not favorites, do you know what

986
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: I mean? Like the way that they kind of like

987
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: pick on one kid and they're like, they don't give

988
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: them the space to be like a kid that is

989
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: scared and maybe doesn't know things. They just kind of

990
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 1: rough them. They treat them rougher than the other kids.

991
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: That really bothered me when I was watching.

992
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:06,439
Speaker 2: This movie exactly. Yeah. Oh yeah, it's deeply it's deeply upsetting. Yeah,

993
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 2: because you also remember from that time how it was

994
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 2: kind of the there wasn't there hadn't been a paradigm

995
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 2: shift yet, so the kind of natural way that people

996
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 2: were parenting was be tougher on them. So they tough enough. Yeah,

997
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 2: Like if you had a kid who was sensitive in

998
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 2: any way, the response was usually to aggressively try to

999
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 2: beat that out of them.

1000
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1001
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 2: So it's hard to watch because it was hard to experience.

1002
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's it's like when you looked at the

1003
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: other kids, they obviously seemed a lot more outdoorsy, a

1004
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: lot more like Vic and you know that, you know,

1005
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: the Seawan Asson character is more of an indoor kid,

1006
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: and I mean, yeah, maybe he's a little whiny, but

1007
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: also like he's a fucking kid. He doesn't know how

1008
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:58,240
Speaker 1: to like repel down the fucking north face of a mountain.

1009
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: Like I mean, give him some slack, but it's like

1010
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: that thing of like you could just there was like

1011
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 1: this crazy balance between whether or not you thought that

1012
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: Kevin Bacon character was trying to give him some independence

1013
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: and some confidence or he was just being cruel And

1014
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: I was hard to watch as a viewer.

1015
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I do believe that he was. It maybe

1016
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 2: started out that way, but then once he beat him

1017
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 2: at chess, it became I'm going to punish you, and

1018
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 2: the way that I will save face with everyone else

1019
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 2: is by pretending that I'm trying to build character.

1020
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I agree with you. I think I

1021
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:38,240
Speaker 1: felt that as well.

1022
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 2: Which is so hard. And there are some key moments

1023
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 2: where Vic really is a premium asshole. Yeah. One of

1024
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 2: them is this rope bridge scene. So he makes them

1025
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 2: traverse this rope bridge, which is a rope bridge in

1026
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 2: just the loosest sense of the fucking word, because it's

1027
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 2: not even big enough. It's not even wide enough for

1028
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 2: a full so it's just these kind of cut planks

1029
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 2: in this loose, jagged, frayed rope and it's obvious that

1030
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 2: Alan is really afraid of this, So what do they do?

1031
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 2: They leave him the fuck behind. They're like, well, join

1032
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 2: us when you can. And I'm like that alone would

1033
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 2: make me curl up into a ball and just throw

1034
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 2: roll myself into the mouth of a bear.

1035
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: Oh, I would be I would be walking towards the

1036
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: fucking car, like, see you motherfuckers later see five and

1037
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,720
Speaker 1: a half weeks or whatever the fuck. I can't believe

1038
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:30,479
Speaker 1: it was six weeks.

1039
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. I would call my parents and be like,

1040
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 2: you got to set up a fucking account for me

1041
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 2: at this general store so I can eat and I'm

1042
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 2: gonna be living in this vand for a couple of weeks.

1043
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I had to say that part in particular,

1044
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: I had to do a rope bridge when I was

1045
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: in I was actually at girl at a girl Scout

1046
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: camping trip, and there was a rope bridge. It wasn't

1047
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: even high up like that. It wasn't between two fucking mountains.

1048
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: It was like up between two trees. And damn, I

1049
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 1: was so scared of that shit that. I mean, when

1050
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: I saw this part happen in the movie, I was

1051
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 1: like feeling so nervous about it, like I was just

1052
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: was like, oh, man, I remember being on something like that,

1053
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: and it is truly scary, let alone him being they're

1054
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: being so high up. I mean, I'm just like, yeah,

1055
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: it's one hundred and eighty feet in the fucking air, Yeah,

1056
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: over a canyon.

1057
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's just and he leave leaves him there

1058
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 2: and then insult to injury, Allan accidentally forgets the tent

1059
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 2: poles and Big makes him go back for it in

1060
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 2: like it's nearly dark. He's like, oh, go cross that

1061
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 2: bridge two more times and go get those fucking poles. Yeah.

1062
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: That was the moment where I realized, Okay, I think

1063
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: he's a he's being a bully, Like he's not trying

1064
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: to instill this kid with confidence. He's just a fucking asshole.

1065
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 2: Apps And that's very clear. And the next thing that happens,

1066
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 2: which is Alan makes a contraption to catch a shitload

1067
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 2: of fish because that's how they're going to eat. So

1068
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 2: he catches seven fish in like ten minutes because he builds.

1069
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 2: He takes the time to build this kind of webbing

1070
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 2: and netting, and the fish swim through and then they

1071
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 2: can't get out, and it's fucking brilliant I mean this

1072
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 2: would win. He would win naked and afraid every time.

1073
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 2: Huh if they had, like this is the kind of

1074
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 2: shit they're trying to do on that show that they

1075
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 2: can never they can never configure. And Vic is so

1076
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 2: upset that Alan has caught more fish than him in

1077
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 2: a different using a different method, that he basically tells Alan,

1078
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 2: we're going to leave you on this little island that

1079
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 2: we cannued to and you're going to clean all these fish,

1080
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 2: and you can signal when you're done, and we are

1081
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 2: not coming to get you until you're done. That's when

1082
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 2: I realize, oh, he's not, because if he was, if

1083
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 2: he was trying to be encouraging, he would have said,

1084
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 2: look at this amazing thing you built. We're gonna eat

1085
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 2: like fucking kings and queens out here. But instead he's like,

1086
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 2: you didn't do it my way, you didn't do it

1087
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 2: the right way. Absolutely, stay on this island by yourself.

1088
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 2: And it starts the fucking thunderstorm overnight and he leaves

1089
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 2: this kid on this fucking island, and the other nerd,

1090
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 2: Jonathan Ward Beans Baxter, who plays Mitch, is starting to

1091
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 2: catch on that Vic is a fucking prick. Yeah, when

1092
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 2: they leave his friend overnight freezing cold on a fucking island. Yeah,

1093
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 2: the next thing that was hard. The next thing he

1094
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 2: does is he disappears for an entire fucking day. So

1095
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 2: again he's so pissed that this little kid is stubborn

1096
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 2: enough to like match him, that he's like yo. He

1097
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 2: tells the other kids like, yo, go get your friend.

1098
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 2: And then when they come back, he's gone. He's just gone,

1099
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 2: and their tent blows away, and there's a tree struck

1100
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 2: by lightning, and it's like fucking Lord of the Flies

1101
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 2: out there. But you know, they they make it up.

1102
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 2: They have an actual pissing contest to make up with

1103
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 2: each other.

1104
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: That's so weird.

1105
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 2: By the way, that was I'm wondering if anyone has

1106
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 2: seen this movie or watched it for the show. Is

1107
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 2: that a teen boy thing?

1108
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 1: Yeah? What's the what's the vibe check on? Like guys

1109
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: peeing in front of each other as kids? I mean,

1110
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: quite frankly, we've talked about this. I don't even want

1111
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: to smoke a cigarette through your foot. I'm definitely not

1112
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: peeing in front of you.

1113
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 2: Or at least peeing in a way that it's like

1114
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 2: target practice, because that was kind of the whole The

1115
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 2: whole vibe of this scene was like, let's see who

1116
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 2: can hit that target, who has the longest stream of pee. Yeah.

1117
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: I think that's really what it is, is the the

1118
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: competitive nature of it. Like, I've never competitively competitively peed

1119
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 1: in front of another person.

1120
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 2: No, I've never competitively pissed. I'm not above it. I

1121
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 2: am not above it even at this point in my life.

1122
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 2: But it's just not something that occurs naturally in my life. Yeah.

1123
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 2: So Vick comes back in the creepiest fucking way possible,

1124
01:00:56,680 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 2: and now it's time to climb the Devil's cameltoe, and

1125
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 2: he's like, let's free climb up the butt crack of

1126
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 2: this fucking mountain for a little bit, even though none

1127
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 2: of you have ever done this before. And then he

1128
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 2: does this incredibly weird thing where he kind of you know,

1129
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 2: there's a part that they have to traverse that's difficult.

1130
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 2: So the way that he's going to get everyone around

1131
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 2: is by having them kind of swing on a cord,

1132
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 2: push themselves off with their feet, swing around, and then

1133
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 2: he'll catch them on the other side, which is terrifying

1134
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 2: for anyone, even the most seasoned climber. Yeah, it is

1135
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 2: a scary ass move. Let alone for this little tiny

1136
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 2: sean Aston who looks like an actual little baby, and

1137
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 2: he can't do it. He's scared. So Vic fucking leaves

1138
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 2: him there, literally leaves him but hanging off the side

1139
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 2: of this mountain. And he's like, well, I told you

1140
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 2: how you can get out of this, and it's up

1141
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 2: to you to figure it out. Yeah, and just fucking

1142
01:01:58,040 --> 01:01:59,919
Speaker 2: leaves him hanging there. I'm afraid of hides. I would

1143
01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 2: have just passed out. I would just passed out and

1144
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,439
Speaker 2: let the wind take me. I'm gonna tell you something.

1145
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 2: If some fucking adult.

1146
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 1: Was like, guess what, now you're free solo, bitch, see

1147
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: you at the base camp while I'm hanging off the

1148
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: side of a fucking rock with like twenty five carabineers

1149
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 1: hanging off my goddamn belt looop, no idea how to

1150
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 1: use them, I'd be like, not only am I fucking

1151
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 1: calling my parents when I get home, but we are.

1152
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 2: Lighting that shit up.

1153
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 1: Where do you live? You live an extended stay hotel?

1154
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:42,439
Speaker 1: That shit's going up in flames. Why you sleep? Vic, motherfucker?

1155
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 2: Let me leave you on this mountain in your fucking

1156
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 2: new balances and then when you find me, try not

1157
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 2: to murder me. Let's see how that works out.

1158
01:02:56,040 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: That motherfucker would be going down so hard, like no

1159
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 1: questions asked.

1160
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 2: And now and after the rest of the crew sees this,

1161
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 2: now everyone wants to go home, so they bolt. They're like,

1162
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 2: fuck this, dude, he's gonna kill us. They bowlt and

1163
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 2: they leave Vic crying on the side of a mountain.

1164
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 2: And when they finally because you know, eventually Allen does

1165
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 2: make it across, he has to climb on his own

1166
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 2: and he gets there, but they all fucking bolt, And

1167
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 2: then when they finally get into the canoe, Vick is

1168
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 2: waiting for them, like, but goddamn, what's his face? Robert

1169
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 2: Mitcham and uh Kate fear and he's like, what's up, bitch,

1170
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 2: And they beat him in the head with a rock

1171
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 2: and knock him off the mountain where he falls and

1172
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 2: cracks his fucking leg open. So I'll leave you to

1173
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,959
Speaker 2: wonder whether or not these kids went camping and ended

1174
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 2: up committing murder. But let's just say this movie did

1175
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 2: not go hard enough for me in the end. Yeah,

1176
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 2: and there is definitely a twist. There's definitely some turns

1177
01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 2: in this film, but it's a great weird unknown summer movie. Yeah.

1178
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: I mean the last bit, like when he breaks his

1179
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: leg was very Burt Reynolds and Deliverance for me. Yes, yes,

1180
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 1: And I was like, if this movie could get as

1181
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: dark as Deliverance, this would be an Oscar winner, honest.

1182
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And you know me, I will I will never

1183
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 2: do a remake, It's not in my bones. But if

1184
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 2: I did, it would be this one and it would

1185
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 2: be extraordinarily dark.

1186
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh man, I was kind of hoping it would

1187
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: go in that direction.

1188
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 2: But I mean, yeah, I mean it's already dark to

1189
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 2: have this fucking guy bringing these kids around the woods

1190
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 2: being a maniac.

1191
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, they should have killed his ass.

1192
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what we're saying.

1193
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 1: They should have killed his ass.

1194
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 2: I should have murdered. I would have made this like

1195
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 2: the anatomy of a Fall for teens. This would be

1196
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 2: some ari.

1197
01:04:55,800 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: Ast shit with you behind it, with you hind it. Man,

1198
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 1: it would be so dark.

1199
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 2: I would want to ari Ost reach out and let

1200
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 2: me know if he wants to direct Whitewater Summer remake

1201
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 2: with me writing I saw what you did at gmail

1202
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 2: dot com.

1203
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 1: Listen, I got a four to one k that's just

1204
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 1: sitting there. If you I'll be a solemn partner on that.

1205
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 2: Let's go.

1206
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: I want to be a producer.

1207
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 2: A we already have a producer. Let's do it.

1208
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 1: You already got money, Let's go. You know who?

1209
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 3: Also, what I love about this movie Matt Adler?

1210
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 2: Who, Chris, can we talk about Matt Adler?

1211
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 1: He is the an essential eighties surfer hottie.

1212
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 2: He is the unsung hero of eighties crushes. God, I

1213
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 2: love him. Matt Adler had a face like just the

1214
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 2: cutest little crunchy little face. Oh I think he's Is

1215
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 2: he still married to Lauris Angiocomo?

1216
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 5: Uh?

1217
01:05:54,880 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 1: Maybe actually I will confirm that on his IMDb page.

1218
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, I mean, like, I've.

1219
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 1: Never seen a dude who looked better in an eighties

1220
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 1: Varna shirt with the sleeves cut off and and a

1221
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 1: little V cut in the in the neck than this dude.

1222
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 1: He's like, to me, even more quintessential than maybe a

1223
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 1: person that's in my movie that we'll talk about just

1224
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 1: a little bit. He's adorable, like and I remember like

1225
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 1: all like fucking teed Wolf everything.

1226
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 2: Yep, every time he showed up my heart leaped a

1227
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 2: little bit. No, oh my god, a little leap for

1228
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 2: Matt Adler. No idea what's up with him now? But

1229
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 2: I hope he's well, Yes, and I hope he knows

1230
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 2: that he is the unsung hero of eighties teen crushes.

1231
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. This was a joy actually to watch.

1232
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 1: I mean I've never like I said, I've never heard

1233
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,959
Speaker 1: of it. I never saw it before obviously, but like, yeah,

1234
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 1: like share terror at certain points.

1235
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you've never seen this movie, there's a lot

1236
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 2: of surprises.

1237
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I gotta say I do agree with you

1238
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 1: that they should have killed Vic. They did have buried

1239
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 1: him in a hole and never spoke about it again,

1240
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 1: like in a and stand by me kind of way,

1241
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 1: Like let's gobody would know.

1242
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:21,479
Speaker 2: Nobody would know who is this guy? Nobody. They would

1243
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 2: eventually find his BW bus and be like, well, what

1244
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 2: happened to this dude? But the pair nobody knows. There's

1245
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 2: no way to track this dude.

1246
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 1: He was just hanging outside of an RII like, selling

1247
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 1: his business to people with a slide show. No one

1248
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 1: gives a shit about him.

1249
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 2: They could have gotten away with it, I agree, easily

1250
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 2: gotten away with it. Nobody would find that carcass for

1251
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 2: a long ass time, the animals would get to it

1252
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 2: and then the sun would do its work.

1253
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he was just enough of an asshole to

1254
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 1: make that shit warranted so completely.

1255
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 2: We're I think we're doing this dark remake of Whitewater

1256
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 2: Summer with Ristir.

1257
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god, dude, I will fund it. Let's go.

1258
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 2: I got money agent. I'm gonna call my agent today

1259
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 2: and she's probably gonna fire me and be like, can

1260
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 2: you get real please?

1261
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 5: No?

1262
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 2: What I love about my agent And she's like, yeah,

1263
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 2: let's do it. She's always behind my fucking crazy idea.

1264
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 1: What would you call it? What would you call the

1265
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 1: movie black water Fall?

1266
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 3: You not have to call it something like Tomorrow by

1267
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 3: Together or something.

1268
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 2: I would call it BX four three two one dash

1269
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 2: eighty five Oscar Papa November.

1270
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 1: The new Neon.

1271
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:50,640
Speaker 2: Film coming out this fall, the little you know, the

1272
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 2: black Hole Sun video and their faces like their jaws

1273
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 2: drop and their eyes get real big. We'll work that

1274
01:08:55,560 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 2: into the title somehow. That face face, black sunface candles emojis,

1275
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 2: that's the title. Speaking of fucked up, your movie was

1276
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 2: the first watch for me, and I was on the

1277
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 2: edge of my goddamn seat.

1278
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 4: Yo.

1279
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 2: It is so good in that way.

1280
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 1: It is so good in that way. So my movie

1281
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 1: for the theme remember your counselor is also a kid

1282
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 1: is from nineteen seventy nine, the year of my birth.

1283
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 1: It was written by Charles Haas and Tim Hunter, directed

1284
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:41,679
Speaker 1: by Jonathan Kaplan, and it's called Over the Edge.

1285
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:43,600
Speaker 2: Kenry tells in another.

1286
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 1: Kid, Yes, ma'am, we're gonna do over the Edge. I've

1287
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:50,719
Speaker 1: been wanting to do this for a long time.

1288
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:51,720
Speaker 4: Yeah you have.

1289
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll do a one sentence synopsis real quick. Imagine

1290
01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:02,480
Speaker 1: rebel without a cause meets dacy and confused, but way fucking.

1291
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 2: Scarier true words have never been spoken. I mean right,

1292
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 2: so good.

1293
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,759
Speaker 1: One thing I want to point out up top because

1294
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,719
Speaker 1: we've done this movie on the podcast before, but Tim Hunter,

1295
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 1: one of the writers of this film, is the director

1296
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 1: of River's Edge, Oh Shits Yeah, which is also a

1297
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 1: movie about fucked up teenagers.

1298
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 2: Tim Hunter had a niche.

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Speaker 1: I agree, and God bless because I fucking love River's

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01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 1: Edge too, rivers ed.

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01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:40,679
Speaker 2: Go back and listen to that episode if you haven't,

1302
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 2: it's a great movie and watch that film. It's great.

1303
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 1: If you haven't seen River's Edge.

1304
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 2: What do you even doing?

1305
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 1: I pity you?

1306
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 2: What the fuck not? Is it time?

1307
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 1: One of the hottest kanus ever on film, one of

1308
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 1: the greatest iconic eighties girl hairstyles, Ione Sky with the

1309
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:01,879
Speaker 1: fucking flip the flip, and then you've got that crazy

1310
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 1: Crisp and Glover performance, which is iconic.

1311
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 2: Do yourself a favor, have a really weird afternoon in

1312
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 2: watch River's Edge.

1313
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's brilliant, but yeah so uh. Tim

1314
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 1: Brader co wrote this film. Also another notable thing. I

1315
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:24,799
Speaker 1: think it's pretty obvious, but this film stars the crop

1316
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 1: top teenage legend himself, Matt Dillon. This was his very

1317
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:33,679
Speaker 1: first movie. He was fifteen years old.

1318
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:34,760
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1319
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 1: And I think the famous story that most people know

1320
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 1: is that he was actually discovered by some folks that

1321
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:46,560
Speaker 1: were casting this film and they saw him skipping school

1322
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:48,560
Speaker 1: and they were like, that's our guy.

1323
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:52,640
Speaker 2: Perfect. Nothing that cool ever happened to me when I

1324
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 2: skipped school. I would skip school and roam around New

1325
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 2: York City and nothing would happen. There were no scouts

1326
01:11:58,479 --> 01:11:59,640
Speaker 2: looking for my dumbass.

1327
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 1: I wish it was doing something degenerate, and then immediately

1328
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 1: got cast in a film and it's like set off

1329
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: the career of my lifetime.

1330
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 2: I know, I know.

1331
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 1: I love teenage Matt Dillon. I've talked about this when

1332
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 1: we did Little Darlings, which she was in like pretty

1333
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:16,799
Speaker 1: much right after.

1334
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 3: I like, he's just such an icon, much like Matt Adler.

1335
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 1: I would say, these like quintessential eighties boys that were

1336
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 1: like in these kind of teen movies, and they all

1337
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 1: kind of had like a surfer kind of like rock

1338
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 1: and roll dirt bag look to them. And I was

1339
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 1: informed by these people, these are the people that would

1340
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 1: become Christian Slater and gleaming the cube, would become Christian

1341
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 1: Slater and pump up the volume. It's just perpetuates the trope,

1342
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

1343
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 2: Do you think Robert Pattinson is the new Christian Slader?

1344
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,719
Speaker 1: You know, that's pretty good. That's a pretty good assessment.

1345
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 1: I would say, maybe, yeah, that was just off the dome. Yeah,

1346
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 1: like the kind of reluctant star hottie. Yeah, I mean

1347
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 1: for sure, and I to that point. I love Robert Pattinson.

1348
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 1: I love him. Do you love him?

1349
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 2: I love him? Yea. I know very little about him,

1350
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:23,759
Speaker 2: but I think he is fantastic and a total fucking weirdo,

1351
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 2: and he makes weird choices and I appreciate that. Well,

1352
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 2: See that's what I'm talking about.

1353
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 1: It's like, like, if you want to get down to

1354
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 1: brass tacks about Twilight. Both those kids, Kristen Stewart and

1355
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 1: Robert Pattinson fucking did the most amazing shit after that.

1356
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 2: Like they did it right, they did. Let's cash in

1357
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 2: for fucking ever on this trilogy that we're doing in

1358
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 2: our early late teens, early twenties, and then we can

1359
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 2: do whatever the fuck we want for the rest of time.

1360
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 1: See, all teen stars need to do that shit. Like

1361
01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 1: that's my in my it's like, Okay, you made being

1362
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 1: like this little hottie in a you know, teen romance,

1363
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 1: and now just do weird art for the rest of

1364
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 1: your life.

1365
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:09,639
Speaker 2: I just do the Lighthouse forever.

1366
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, speaking of Crispin Glover, I mean it's

1367
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 1: kind of the Crispin Glover way. It's like being back

1368
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:18,440
Speaker 1: to the future and then just make transgressive, fucked.

1369
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 2: Up art for the rest of your life. It's then

1370
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 2: just collect eyeballs.

1371
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, might I suggest that for BEATSS Why don't you

1372
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:26,879
Speaker 1: guys just like go real.

1373
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 2: Weird this is what I mean. Get out of the.

1374
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 1: Army and then just start doing like some Derek Jarman shit,

1375
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 1: like just be in a movie that's just the color blue,

1376
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 1: like you're not even in a movie.

1377
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 2: Ice those knees and start playing like power violence music.

1378
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, be in a black metal band, like real, get real, weird.

1379
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,680
Speaker 1: Why the fuck not? You have the money, just do.

1380
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 2: It right forever you're set, forever there's and then do

1381
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 2: the weird shit. And if you need to, you can

1382
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 2: fucking disappear. Yes, God, why weren't we smarter when we

1383
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 2: were younger? That's what we should have done.

1384
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,520
Speaker 1: I know, Like I said, we could have been skipping school,

1385
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 1: been made famous, be a millionaire by the time we

1386
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 1: were seventeen, and then we can just you know, play

1387
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 1: the flute for the rest of our lives and then

1388
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:18,799
Speaker 1: just walk away from everything.

1389
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 2: Genius. Like, God, if you're young enough to be able

1390
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:27,639
Speaker 2: to take advantage of this, please make this the focus

1391
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 2: of your fucking life. Yeah, get in early, get the

1392
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 2: fuck out, get in early, and.

1393
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 1: Get the fuck out of greed. So this movie was

1394
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:45,679
Speaker 1: based on a real event. Essentially, it was this community

1395
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 1: in California in the early seventies, and I feel like

1396
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 1: with Tim Hunter, like because River's Edge also came from

1397
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 1: a real story too, so I feel like maybe this

1398
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 1: is a Tim Hunter thing like kind of pulling like

1399
01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 1: you know, true life articles like things that he sees

1400
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 1: in the news and making movies out of them. So

1401
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 1: in Over the Edge, the year is nineteen seventy nine,

1402
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 1: like I said, and it takes place in this planned

1403
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 1: community called New Granada, and I guess it's supposed to

1404
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 1: be in like Colorado or something, and it's like, you

1405
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 1: know exactly the type of this stuff. I mean this,

1406
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:19,640
Speaker 1: I know this type of stuff because my parents kind

1407
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:21,640
Speaker 1: of live in a place like this where it's basically

1408
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 1: just like a track of land that they plunk a

1409
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 1: bunch of like really boring, samey townhouses on and then

1410
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:33,719
Speaker 1: they bring like Texas millionaires to come in and develop

1411
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 1: a bunch of like old Navies and Sophoras and shit.

1412
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 1: And you know, so we know this. I mean, we

1413
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:46,600
Speaker 1: know that Texas millionaires ruin everything, as we know that

1414
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 1: specifically empirical fact at this point. But you know, it's

1415
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:51,600
Speaker 1: just like a thing where it's like so it's just

1416
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 1: this empty land that now is being like developed into

1417
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,639
Speaker 1: these really shitty boring things, and then you've got these

1418
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 1: kids that are just like I hate it here.

1419
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:06,680
Speaker 2: They've also just they've also just plopped these children in

1420
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:07,680
Speaker 2: the middle of nowhere.

1421
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:10,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you throw in a bunch of dick cops,

1422
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:16,799
Speaker 1: And I gotta say I love the kids in this movie,

1423
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 1: like I will. I'm gonna say it out one hundred times.

1424
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:22,640
Speaker 1: They look incredible, like the style is on point, and

1425
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:27,439
Speaker 1: they're all just like in that tit like very disaffected youth.

1426
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 1: Like I keep saying, you know, the rebable without a

1427
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 1: castings is that these kids fucking hate where they live.

1428
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 1: It's so boring. But they are wild as shit.

1429
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And there's even one of them that sounds like

1430
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 2: she has COPD and she's still fucking crazy, Like she

1431
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 2: gets a gun.

1432
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 1: Okay, they you have guns. They are drinking, fighting, having sex,

1433
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 1: selling drugs. And I'm not saying like the little kids

1434
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 1: selling drugs. They're selling drugs like they are in a cartel,

1435
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:03,800
Speaker 1: Like they have the language, like they are in the

1436
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 1: trap house. Like it's like they know what the fuck

1437
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 1: they're talking about. I was like, how do they learn this,

1438
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 1: like like.

1439
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 2: Fifteen years old and they're white, which.

1440
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 1: Is even crazy.

1441
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,719
Speaker 2: There's that character Claude, who I'm sure we'll talk about,

1442
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 2: but Claude, one of the first things he says is, oh,

1443
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:27,719
Speaker 2: I took speed for this exam we have today at school.

1444
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,600
Speaker 2: Oh no, I think it was acid. Like he's just

1445
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 2: rolling all day every day. Listen.

1446
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 3: I was literally thinking.

1447
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 1: I was like, I mean, I at least didn't smoke

1448
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 1: hash for the first time until I was in college. Okay,

1449
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 1: these are like fourteen year old kids that are like

1450
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 1: doing hash on the rags.

1451
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 2: I'm younger than that because they're dragging their younger siblings

1452
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 2: along with them. That one younger sibling who's like a

1453
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 2: total mute, Yeah, he's there and his sunglasses drinking. I mean,

1454
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 2: it is wild how these children are wild.

1455
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 1: Are shooting guns at cop cars. They're calling pops the

1456
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 1: F word to their face, like they're like, yo, you

1457
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 1: got a small dick officer, Like you're like.

1458
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 6: What, How're like, what a fucking air rifle into a.

1459
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 2: Cop car windshield while it was driving. They're on an

1460
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 2: overpass shooting cars.

1461
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna say this. I don't know if this

1462
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 1: is true, but I'm gonna I'm gonna put I'm gonna

1463
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 1: say this for the record, I feel like beats per minute,

1464
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 1: this is the most acab movie to ever exist in cinema, completely.

1465
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:42,639
Speaker 4: Without a fucking doubt, like even more a cab than

1466
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 4: Smoky in the Bandit completely because at least those folks

1467
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 4: were just fooling the cops.

1468
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 2: They're shooting at cops.

1469
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 1: They are shooting at cops.

1470
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 2: These kids, this movie is more a cab than NWA's

1471
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 2: entire catalog, which I know is one album, but it

1472
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 2: was like, this movie and Nwa is Acab royalty, and

1473
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 2: that's as close as you're gonna get. I was shocked

1474
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 2: by that.

1475
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 1: Every single time I've seen this movie, I always have like, Wow,

1476
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:14,640
Speaker 1: they are fearless.

1477
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally fearless.

1478
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 1: Which is part of the joy of this movie, to

1479
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 1: be honest, because I mean, it's just so wild. But

1480
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:26,640
Speaker 1: so she could probably imagine the parents are like, we

1481
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 1: don't know what to do, Like the teachers everybody in

1482
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:31,640
Speaker 1: this community is like, yeah, we could try to do

1483
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 1: like a nine o'clock curfew, but these kids sell hash

1484
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 1: and shoot.

1485
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 2: At cops, So what's the point of any of it.

1486
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 2: One of them got suspended from school and now he

1487
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 2: just lives in a tent. By the river with his

1488
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:51,639
Speaker 2: motorbike and nobody's checking on you. It's they fucking blew

1489
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:53,680
Speaker 2: up a car, like nobody.

1490
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 1: Is checking on these child Yeah, I mean it's so

1491
01:20:57,960 --> 01:20:58,679
Speaker 1: over the top.

1492
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:00,839
Speaker 2: I I'm obsessed.

1493
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 1: Okay. So there is one kid who's sort of the

1494
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 1: center of the film. His name is Carl. He's played

1495
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 1: by Michael Kramer, and his father is sort of like

1496
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 1: the guy leading the charge for all this new investment, right,

1497
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 1: so he's like the devil and Carl is like, you know,

1498
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 1: the person in the film that you kind of follow around.

1499
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 1: He's you know, like cute, brown haired boy, like definitely

1500
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:34,720
Speaker 1: involved in the Shenanigans of his friends, but also get know,

1501
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 1: is maybe like he has a conscious maybe at the

1502
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 1: end of the day, you never know. And he actually

1503
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 1: has a little bit of a romance with this girl

1504
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 1: named Corey, who is She's got the best look. She's

1505
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:52,719
Speaker 1: like a little Natasha Leon with that like red head,

1506
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 1: like that eighties poofy hair. You know, she looks like

1507
01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:00,639
Speaker 1: Lori Byrn in tulane blacktop, this kind of like winged,

1508
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 1: big permed hair. At one point they actually like have

1509
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 1: a little romantic walk through a field of tall grass

1510
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 1: which you know that.

1511
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:13,520
Speaker 3: Instant romance.

1512
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:17,920
Speaker 2: She's also a fucking maniac. It almost shoots Karl in

1513
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 2: the head.

1514
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 1: There's this one scene where they're like hanging out and

1515
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 1: then something happens in her line is all right, a

1516
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 1: picnic with a gun, Like.

1517
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 6: Hooray, I've been waiting for this my whole life was like, Yo,

1518
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 6: these kids are not like the kids I knew, Like

1519
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 6: they are crazy.

1520
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 1: And then of course, like one of the best parts

1521
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 1: of this movie too, is that while all of this

1522
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 1: is rolling out, like all of these kids and just

1523
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 1: kind of degenerate activities, the soundtrack is perfect, like U,

1524
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:03,760
Speaker 1: the Ramones, the cars, Van and Hale and cheat Surrender. Now,

1525
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 1: that is maybe the most teenage anthem that I can think.

1526
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 2: Of right now now here.

1527
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:15,679
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, So this movie, like there's things

1528
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 1: that are happening in the film, but they are also

1529
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 1: not a lot of things happening in the film. It's

1530
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 1: kind of like there's not a ton of plot if

1531
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 1: you think about it, because I'm not gonna give it away,

1532
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 1: because the end is really the crucial part of the film. Yeah,

1533
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 1: and it is a beautiful masterpiece. I have to say,

1534
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:37,639
Speaker 1: I wouldn't dare give it away, but I will say

1535
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 1: that the path to getting there is a little here

1536
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 1: and there. Hopefully this isn't a spoiler necessarily, but I

1537
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 1: feel like it does set up the end of the film.

1538
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 1: So essentially, you know, you know, these kids are like

1539
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 1: battling the community. They're trying to rain these kids in.

1540
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 1: Carl's parents are trying to like keep him in the house.

1541
01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:01,719
Speaker 1: He's escaping left and right. At a certain point, Richie,

1542
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 1: who is the Matt Dillon character, Right, all these kids

1543
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 1: have fucking guns. They're all fucking strapped. At one point,

1544
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 1: Richie is out with his friends. They run into like

1545
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 1: one of the shitty cops in the neighborhood. He pulls

1546
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:18,679
Speaker 1: the gun and the cops shoots him, kills Richie. Okay,

1547
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 1: this is I think the inflection point. This is what

1548
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:23,640
Speaker 1: sets off the rest of the film, because Carl's in

1549
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:24,560
Speaker 1: a fucking tailspin.

1550
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 2: Right. Then it sets.

1551
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 1: Up this final act, which is long and poetic. The

1552
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 1: amount of shit happening in this final sequence.

1553
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 2: Oh, don't look away, Like check every corner of the screen,

1554
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:44,759
Speaker 2: because there's gonna be something different happening in every corner

1555
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 2: of the screen, right, And it.

1556
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:49,799
Speaker 1: Centered around this like community meeting of all of the adults,

1557
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 1: and it's just this showdown. It's like the final Showdown.

1558
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 1: It's like a Western almost, that is how epic it is.

1559
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 1: And you've never seen this movie before, You're it's like

1560
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:06,799
Speaker 1: watching You're gonna be This is like, this is an opera.

1561
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 2: What the fuck?

1562
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:13,440
Speaker 1: This is an incredible opera of violence and craziness, teenage

1563
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 1: chaos on a level you have never experienced before in

1564
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 1: your life.

1565
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 2: A lot, a lot of corrugated tin gets fucked up.

1566
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you something now, we know this

1567
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 1: from watching Brian to Palmers carry. If there is a

1568
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:35,479
Speaker 1: chain and a and a dead boat lock on a

1569
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 1: fucking pair of swinging community center doors, you are fucked.

1570
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 1: You are so fucked. Some shit is about to go down.

1571
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 2: You just wrote your own ticket to the grave.

1572
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna be burning in hell.

1573
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:53,639
Speaker 2: Just know that. So don't fuck with a rec center, man,

1574
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:56,759
Speaker 2: That's all we gotta say. I mean, if they're bowling

1575
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 2: up to open one, don't fuck with it like this.

1576
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 1: So, like I said, I mean, I know that this

1577
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 1: My section is a little short this week because really

1578
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 1: there isn't like a ton of plot. All we know

1579
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:10,759
Speaker 1: is that the kids are not okay, and it's a vibe.

1580
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 1: I mean, this movie is a vibe to me. This

1581
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:16,919
Speaker 1: you know, this is a cult classic. It was actually

1582
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 1: like for a long time, I think when I was

1583
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 1: like maybe in college, I think I didn't I wasn't

1584
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:22,599
Speaker 1: able to really see this movie a lot.

1585
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 2: I think it's probably a music rights thing.

1586
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 1: But it's out there now and if you haven't seen it,

1587
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 1: I encourage you to watch it because it's just like

1588
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 1: one of these classic teen angst films. It's so of

1589
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 1: its era, in the style, in the music, in the

1590
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:40,800
Speaker 1: Matt Dillon miss. I mean, I love it. It's like

1591
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 1: one of my faves.

1592
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 2: I was blown away. I was I did not know

1593
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 2: what to expect. I thought, oh, maybe a late little

1594
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:50,719
Speaker 2: summertime romp. And I think I could now put together

1595
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 2: a machine gun with my aunt with a blindfold one.

1596
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 2: Just from watching this movie, like it is a wild

1597
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 2: and I feel it makes you feel a little bit

1598
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 2: more nected to those teen feelings of nothing is ever

1599
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:06,599
Speaker 2: going to change. My life is miserable in a way

1600
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 2: that I have not experienced with a lot of films.

1601
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I think Tim Hunter's involvement is

1602
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 1: probably crucial to that, because yeah, that's the same way

1603
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 1: that I felt when what we watched River's Edge. I mean,

1604
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:21,559
Speaker 1: it's like there is some like there were there wasn't

1605
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 1: a while, or filmmakers and writers that really get the

1606
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 1: experience of being a teenager in a very specific way. Right.

1607
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 1: We kind of talked about that with Heathers too, just

1608
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 1: about the angst of it.

1609
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 2: Desolation, just the isolation and the desolation and just uugh and.

1610
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 1: Like think about this too. I mean I kind of

1611
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 1: talked about this on a substack post that I made

1612
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:50,599
Speaker 1: a while back. But the idea of like this kind

1613
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 1: of pre digital world where you, unless you knew other

1614
01:27:57,160 --> 01:28:01,760
Speaker 1: kids in the flesh, you really don't have a reference

1615
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 1: for how you're feeling. Like it's not like you can

1616
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 1: go onto TikTok and see like a hundred videos of

1617
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,880
Speaker 1: people like also sharing stories of their loneliness or like,

1618
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:13,760
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, it feels like now there's so

1619
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 1: much identification and commiseration with how you feel, like you

1620
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 1: can just pop on the internet and be like, oh, yeah,

1621
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 1: this is exactly how I'm feeling and look at all

1622
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 1: the blogs that are reflecting that, or you know, influencers

1623
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 1: or whatever, like in that era, in these eras of

1624
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 1: like the pre internet world, to be like lonely and

1625
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 1: disaffected was really isolating.

1626
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 2: Completely, Oh it was. It's bleak. It's a bleak film,

1627
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 2: but it's so funny. There's so many moments of joy.

1628
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:48,800
Speaker 2: There's so many twists, and I think it's easy to

1629
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:50,599
Speaker 2: feel really empathetic for these kids too.

1630
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there are so many hilarious little kids

1631
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 1: in this film, Like the kid that like rolls up

1632
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:02,839
Speaker 1: on a skateboard to like pass the fucking landline phone.

1633
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 2: That's Johnny. That's mute Johnny.

1634
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is the best.

1635
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 3: He just has such a look to him.

1636
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 1: And they're writing those like tiny little banana skateboards like

1637
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 1: the seventies skateboards is so cute, Like I'm like, yes,

1638
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 1: you are killing people, but also you're adorable. Yes you're

1639
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 1: smoking hash and selling hashy.

1640
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 2: There's one scene where they confront their dealer and it's

1641
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 2: like watching two adults confront a dealer in meda yin

1642
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 2: like they're just taking out this little teenage kid and

1643
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:45,599
Speaker 2: reading him for fucking filth and threatening him, and his

1644
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:48,479
Speaker 2: mom's watching and it's just fucking he's on the porch

1645
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 2: of this planned community being treated like he's been selling

1646
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:54,799
Speaker 2: drugs in fucking Columbia for his whole life.

1647
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:57,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, it suddenly turns into like a Michael Mann movie.

1648
01:29:57,680 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 1: You're like, how reponsible?

1649
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 3: It is so great, such a classic.

1650
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 2: A good watch. I'm glad I watched it. I'd never

1651
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:09,480
Speaker 2: seen it before and I was shocked.

1652
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:12,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was fun to come up with these movies

1653
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:16,639
Speaker 1: this week, because yours is like Kids Gone Wild. Actually

1654
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:21,800
Speaker 1: in the wild, mine was Kids Gone Wild because they

1655
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:29,479
Speaker 1: have zero home training and truly out there.

1656
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:32,559
Speaker 2: They're experiencing the suburbs for the first time and they

1657
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 2: fucking hate it. Yeah. Well this was fun.

1658
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:40,760
Speaker 1: So we do not have an episode next week, and

1659
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 1: we'll announce those movies in just a second for the

1660
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 1: next episode. But in the meantime, if you want to

1661
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:46,840
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1662
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:50,560
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1663
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1664
01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:58,759
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1666
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1667
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1668
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1669
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:10,360
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1670
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:13,559
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1671
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1672
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1676
01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:26,120
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1677
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:29,000
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1678
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01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:34,200
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1681
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:40,719
Speaker 2: be like this week. Yeah, oh that's exciting.

1682
01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:47,920
Speaker 1: Oh shit, this next episode, yo, this is gonna be

1683
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:52,760
Speaker 1: your time to shine.

1684
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:57,000
Speaker 2: Ah or remember we don't have any episode next week

1685
01:31:57,040 --> 01:32:01,960
Speaker 2: but the week after. Our movies are The Guest from

1686
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:05,799
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen and Madhouse from nineteen ninety.

1687
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:06,760
Speaker 5: Yo.

1688
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:10,800
Speaker 1: All killer, no filler. I am so excited by this.

1689
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:14,599
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1690
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:17,599
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1691
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:22,559
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1692
01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:35,240
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1693
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1694
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1695
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