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Speaker 1: And I'm telling you right now, it doesn't matter. If

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Speaker 1: it's freaking dominoes, it's page, it's bourey, it's croquet, it's chess,

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Speaker 1: it's preseason ass kicking. It does not matter. Man, Winning

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Hard Knocks Podcast, presented

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Speaker 1: by Around the NFL. I'm Dan Hansas and to my

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Speaker 1: left in studio, the tiny box to my tug boat,

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Speaker 1: tug box. She's pro grit AUNTI fragile. She's our airline

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Speaker 1: pilot with zero flight experience, Colleen Wolf, False, that's false.

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Speaker 1: I have almost a private pilot license, and I have

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Speaker 1: So you should be the one playing. I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: My fault. Oh, your old man worked as a air

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Speaker 1: traffic controller. Kind of know what's up, Colleen. We're together

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Speaker 1: for episode three of Hard Knocks here in Inglewood at

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Speaker 1: the Chris Westling podcast studio. And how beautiful it is.

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Speaker 1: And uh, I assume if you're listening to this you

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Speaker 1: all right, Dan Campbell's always pumped all times he's come,

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Speaker 1: he's his insanity or his intensity insanity. And uh, but

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Speaker 1: But when they're looking to get the defensive stop in

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Speaker 1: This is what Dan said freeing out turnover. Anybody gets

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Speaker 1: I mean, that is an interesting reward system that Dan

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Speaker 1: something we alluded to an episode two. That episode one

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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell is like a dream for Hard Knocks producers.

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Speaker 1: like that was so relatable because if I was exactly

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Speaker 1: what I would sound like if I was watching like

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Speaker 1: John out there, if I was watching any of my

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Speaker 1: close friends like you out there, like I would be

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Speaker 1: screaming just like that. It was my inner monologue during

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Speaker 1: the entirety of COVID just at all times. Big takeaway there,

432
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Speaker 1: But um, isn't it weird? I've thought about this before

433
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Speaker 1: in Hard Knocks. But when a family that obviously is

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Speaker 1: incredible family incredibly invested in their son or husband or

435
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Speaker 1: boyfriend's success on the field and trying to make the team,

436
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Speaker 1: and when they're on the offensive line, especially like I've

437
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Speaker 1: been come ring football for years and years and I

438
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Speaker 1: don't know the I lean on Brian Baldinger and people

439
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Speaker 1: like that to understand like what a guy's doing. You

440
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Speaker 1: could tell when a guy's a turnstyle, but the nuances

441
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Speaker 1: of that position are so fine. But when you're in

442
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Speaker 1: the two section and the person's career is on the line,

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Speaker 1: that has to be a special kind of like just

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Speaker 1: winging it. In terms of emotional support, are you doing

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Speaker 1: well or you're not doing well? Like who knows she's

446
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Speaker 1: the most supportive wife ever the way that she was

447
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Speaker 1: going crazy. I mean, just think about it though, if

448
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Speaker 1: you're married to someone who's a long snapper, like, how

449
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Speaker 1: do you well that know? But you do know that,

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Speaker 1: I guess yeah, long snap it snap pretty strap work

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Speaker 1: exactly Like his hand placement was terrible there, it's like

452
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Speaker 1: you need you almost need baldy next to you. You

453
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Speaker 1: need a baldy type you do everybody needs a baldy

454
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Speaker 1: or you just be supportive no matter what I just

455
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Speaker 1: mean in terms of critical nuance to studying your partners

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Speaker 1: play on the field. Or she's very invested. Maybe they

457
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Speaker 1: watch tape together. Who knows tae talk. Uh yeah, so

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Speaker 1: that was good. I thought it was interesting in the

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Speaker 1: coverage of the game from NFL Films perspective. Uh, we

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Speaker 1: got to see David blow have a moment at the

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Speaker 1: end of the first half, which was nice because Blouse

462
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Speaker 1: certainly seems like a nice guy and um, he had

463
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Speaker 1: to wear it at the end of the previous episode,

464
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Speaker 1: so showing him get the touchdown passing on a nice

465
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Speaker 1: throw in the back corner of the end zone at

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Speaker 1: the end of the half. I do wonder when is

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Speaker 1: my boy, Tim Boyle gonna get some run? Maybe the

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Speaker 1: show I mean, listen now, the clock's ticking. And on

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Speaker 1: that subject, no, Jared Golf Golf let me. I want

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Speaker 1: to say that for when you know predictions about it

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Speaker 1: coming up episodes, but I think Tim Boyle deserves some run.

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Speaker 1: Not to mentioned Ben Johnson where is the offensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: of How do we not I think graver? You said

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Speaker 1: at one point we might have seen him like at

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Speaker 1: the edge of a shot, in the side of a frame. Yeah, Like,

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Speaker 1: can we at least give Ben Johnson, offensive coordinator of

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Speaker 1: the Detroit lines, a tiny bit of run in a

478
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Speaker 1: preseason game before this is over? Right? Because Deuce actually,

479
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Speaker 1: I mean he's chewing a lot of scenery Aaron Glenn talking,

480
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Speaker 1: He's getting major segments of the show. You know what.

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Speaker 1: That was so interesting too, because, as you pointed out

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Speaker 1: when we were watching Dan, Deuce had his voice back

483
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Speaker 1: almost a couple of days later from those joint practices

484
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Speaker 1: when he had completely was wrap City. Yeah, our boy

485
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Speaker 1: Sewn Kelly had the good take that he was just

486
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Speaker 1: banging those lozenges, hammering him yep, tea and honey and lemon,

487
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Speaker 1: the voices and shutdown mode. I think you've probably been

488
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Speaker 1: in this boat before it happened to me last year. Um,

489
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Speaker 1: I've screened at the top of my lungs in my

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Speaker 1: house because gian Carlos Stanton hit a grand slam of

491
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Speaker 1: Fenway Park and then I woke up the next day

492
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Speaker 1: my voice is just shot, and I was like, oh,

493
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Speaker 1: I have like fourteen podcasts coming up this week, So

494
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Speaker 1: I and I just had to um not talk for

495
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Speaker 1: two days through the weekend, and then I just croaked

496
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Speaker 1: my way through the next couple of shows. The scene

497
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Speaker 1: has completely been deleted from my memory. I don't remember

498
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Speaker 1: anything that happened from there was There was a croakey

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Speaker 1: Sunday Night pod and then on uh we did a

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Speaker 1: power Rankings taping with Matt money Smith and he was

501
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Speaker 1: just laughing at me when I admitted my voice was gone.

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Speaker 1: I've only it's only happened to me one time, and

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Speaker 1: it was after my bachelorette party in Vegas and it

504
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Speaker 1: was my first trip to Vegas, and I lost my

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Speaker 1: voice for a full week and a half. I think

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Speaker 1: I was just screaming for four days. Like, yeah, it

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Speaker 1: sounds like you've ingested something funny enough. I'm going to

508
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Speaker 1: Vegas this weekend, so we'll see what happened. We'll be careful. UM,

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Speaker 1: all right, what else anything else from the preseason game

510
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Speaker 1: that you wanted to touch on? UM? I guess the

511
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Speaker 1: only thing was there was like a funny moment with

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Speaker 1: Aaron Glen on the sideline. UM that had us cracking up,

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Speaker 1: and we were watching him during the game. But it

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Speaker 1: was only one word that he kind of like erupted

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Speaker 1: with and we really play it. It wouldn't really make

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Speaker 1: sense as a drop. It's the mother of all swear words. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so when you watch you'll see um. So that was funny.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that's it um all right, Now let's move on.

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Speaker 1: Is it time for the Leef Schreiber Quote of the week.

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Speaker 1: I can feel it. It's time, right. Leef Schreiber is

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Speaker 1: not on this show. He's on Hard Knocks. He's not

522
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Speaker 1: on this show. But thankfully, my longtime friend Jason Zumwalt

523
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Speaker 1: is a voice artist and he does not I want

524
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Speaker 1: to make this very clear. He only gets I shoot

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Speaker 1: him the text. He does not know the inflection from Schreiber,

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Speaker 1: and every time it's spot on. Here is the latest

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Speaker 1: edition of the Leef Schreiber Quote of the Week. I'll

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Speaker 1: give a little just context. It's the Colts player or

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Speaker 1: the players for the lines of walking along a blue

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Speaker 1: pathway to Colts practice. This isn't oz. It's day two

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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, but it is time for the line ends

532
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Speaker 1: to double down on courage. It's so good. He is

533
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Speaker 1: so talented. We need a drop for that, just like, uh,

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Speaker 1: that's it's its own section, right, I think we do.

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Speaker 1: I think we need to send Jason Zumwaal some Detroit

536
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Speaker 1: style pizza by the end of this show. Are we

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Speaker 1: paying him anything for this? I'm working on it. It's

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Speaker 1: just Jason's done a lot of pro bono work for

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Speaker 1: around the NFL over But you know what a kind man.

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Speaker 1: We got him to the super Bowl. Okay, so that's

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Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah, all right, I mean it was to

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Speaker 1: see the Rams win the super Bowl and he's a

543
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Speaker 1: die hard Cardinals fans. Maybe we we'll figure something out. Okay, alright,

544
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Speaker 1: how about before we get to m v p vos,

545
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Speaker 1: how about some plot line predictions for episode four. Let's yeah,

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Speaker 1: circle back to Goff here, because my first thought he's

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Speaker 1: on the team stone the episode ended, my first thought was, Okay,

548
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Speaker 1: this is getting awkward. We need to get to Jared Goff.

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Speaker 1: But now, like I thought about it more, it's like, nah,

550
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Speaker 1: why not attempt the impossible? A Hard Knocks season where

551
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Speaker 1: the first string quarterback is not involved in any capacity. Well,

552
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: as we said, the offensive coordinator is also not involved.

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00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: But for the quarter of the quarterback is usually the

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Speaker 1: main character of the entire team. He especially for one

555
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Speaker 1: of these shows, the there's a line of Vince Lombardi.

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Speaker 1: I got it from Chris Westley because he said it

557
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Speaker 1: often that the only problem, if you want to call it,

558
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Speaker 1: with football is that the rules of football in the

559
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Speaker 1: sport of its sport itself, is that the quarterback is

560
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Speaker 1: so disproportionately important to the enterprise that it kind of

561
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Speaker 1: excused things a little bit. And yet here we are

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Speaker 1: three hours into Hard Knocks out of five hours, and

563
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: Jared Goff, his entire um impact on the show was

564
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Speaker 1: hitting Hutch on the shoulder pad and saying to Huch's dad,

565
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: he's doing great out there. That's it. Listen, the Hard

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Speaker 1: Knocks crew, they've dealt with Jared Goff a lot, and

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Speaker 1: they've probably exhausted a lot of Jared golf like personal

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00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: storylines and things, and they and they probably as a

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Speaker 1: service to the viewers, they don't want to be repetitive.

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Speaker 1: It's a service. I don't feel like we're missing a lot.

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Speaker 1: But aren't you curious to know if Jared Goff moved

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Speaker 1: to Detroit and also built a little golf course in

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Speaker 1: his backyard there too. I am curious. I don't need

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Speaker 1: a whole I don't you know how I'm gonna press

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00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: these television They'll they'll just follow one of the characters

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Speaker 1: for the entire hour, and it's like, oh, I don't

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Speaker 1: we actually just all right, I'll let indulge yourself. I

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Speaker 1: don't need like episode four to be fifty eight minutes

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Speaker 1: of Jared Goff, but I would like to check in

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Speaker 1: with Jared Goff, Like where's Jared Goff in? His former

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Speaker 1: number one overall pick. Clearly a bridge quarterback. He's probably

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Speaker 1: not the future, but he's very much the president, and

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Speaker 1: he has obviously a golden opportunity to re establish himself.

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Speaker 1: There is some meat on this narrative bone, maybe even

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Speaker 1: just a wellness check at this point, like Jared, are

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Speaker 1: you okay? How are you doing? Campbell ever talked to

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Speaker 1: you before? Like that would be my first question. Does

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Speaker 1: Dan know your name? That's terrible. I'm still waiting, and

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00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: I'll continue to say this until it happens, because I've

590
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: seen so many hard knocks seasons. Um a visit downtown

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Speaker 1: that pays homage to the Detroit music scene, soul, blues,

592
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Speaker 1: hip hop, garage, rock, something that's got to be coming, right,

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Speaker 1: and cars, that's what I want. Cars. I mean, even

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Speaker 1: the comedian that was in this episode, which we'll touch

595
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Speaker 1: on it a little bit. Yes, cars need to be involved.

596
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Speaker 1: Ford is a huge deal there, right, and I think

597
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Speaker 1: it's come on and it's in the open with the

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Speaker 1: tires and the cars and all of it. So that's

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Speaker 1: got to happen. To say, the Detroit Lions and their

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Speaker 1: OWNERSHROP Group do agree that Ford is a huge deal.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a massive part of the enterprise everybody. Also,

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Speaker 1: I think that coming up we'll see maybe a little

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Speaker 1: Jeffa kuda Um action because we haven't really seen anything

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Speaker 1: from him. So maybe the starting cornerback battle will be

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00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: a little bit of a storyline to we've in coming

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Speaker 1: up this week. But I will say that even though

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Speaker 1: there's some things that you know, Jamison Williams, who we

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Speaker 1: just learned in the news that you know he's expected

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Speaker 1: to start the season, I believe on the pup list

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Speaker 1: and we knew that because he's coming off the A C.

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Speaker 1: L Um would be interesting just to see this rookie

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Speaker 1: that everyone's so excited about. It is electrifying. Wide receivers

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Speaker 1: rehabs the knee. I don't know if we're going to

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Speaker 1: get that, But in general, I feel like the storytelling.

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Speaker 1: Storytelling in the season has felt fresh while at the

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Speaker 1: same time feeling like hard knocks. So I I don't

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Speaker 1: have any complaints. Um, I don't even I'm not even

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Speaker 1: like a big like, alright, send two players into the city. Guy,

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm just saying I'm so used to seeing it,

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Speaker 1: but I'm expecting it and it hasn't happened. I think

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Speaker 1: that's why this season has been so good, because it's

622
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Speaker 1: not they're not doing things because they have to do

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Speaker 1: it because they've done it before. Because it feels like

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Speaker 1: the viewers are used to it. They're just telling the

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Speaker 1: stories that are there and they're good and they are fresh,

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Speaker 1: and you know, we love this show. But if you

627
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: want to be fair, there is a criticism from some

628
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Speaker 1: people that say, sometimes there's a sameness if you watch

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Speaker 1: season after season. So yeah, maybe there's this is a

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Speaker 1: conscious effort to mix it up a little bit. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I like that. We all got to evolve, everybody. You

632
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: gotta learn, you gotta grow, you gotta develop, and then

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Speaker 1: maybe you will become an m V P. And remember remember,

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Speaker 1: oh that was your translation at m v P. It's time.

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Speaker 1: Remember this is vector voting, which is what again, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I forgot every vote counts. Grave Digger will

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Speaker 1: take care of it. There's addition above that was remember

638
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Speaker 1: you were asking me, what was the third thing I

639
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Speaker 1: had asked you or we asked for merch got it,

640
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Speaker 1: asked for Detroit pizza. I believe you're working on it,

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Speaker 1: coming soon. Right, here's the Oh my gosh, I love

642
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Speaker 1: my shirt. I just got it right before we started

643
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 1: this episode. I can't wait to wear it. It's so soft.

644
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Speaker 1: And the third request I had Graver was addition basic addition,

645
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Speaker 1: tallying up the votes throughout episode one through five. Yeah,

646
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 1: so anyway, um, it's a weighted voting system. Third place vote,

647
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Speaker 1: second place vote, first place vote, and at the end

648
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Speaker 1: of the year Graver does the math. We declare the

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Speaker 1: m v P of Hard Knocks. Let's go third place

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Speaker 1: vote starting with Connie. Okay, so third place for me,

651
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: this week was a little difficult the first two episodes,

652
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: you know, I think because the first episode was easy

653
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: for me, and then I think this week was even

654
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 1: a little bit more difficult than last week. My third

655
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: place vote is going to go to Jamal Williams because

656
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: he was such a character during those joint practices that

657
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: it was hard to not notice him, and his personality

658
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: is so big and his energy just pops off the screen.

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Speaker 1: So Jamal Williams for me is third place. It's a

660
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: good call. I don't have him on my list, but

661
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 1: I understand why you did it, because he is its.

662
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: He makes for entertaining television, and that's the goal here.

663
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 1: I was a little annoyed by him, like his antics

664
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: in the practice were a little much for me, Like

665
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: I I felt it would though like that him and Franklin,

666
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: I just wanted to shut up. It was like he

667
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: was so obsessed with settling scores. But maybe, again, this

668
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: is a professional athlete, Like this is maybe how he

669
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Speaker 1: gets juiced and this lets him play at his highest level.

670
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Speaker 1: I don't know, but yes, I found I watched that

671
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: with a smile on my face or more than just

672
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 1: like a huh, what's going on with this guy? Was

673
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: the smile turned into a grimace. It was like not

674
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Speaker 1: a grimace, but more like, uh, what's up with Williams today?

675
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Speaker 1: Um alright? Third place vote for Jamal Jamal Williams my

676
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: third place vote, and I think this is someone that's

677
00:37:54,400 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: on your list. Is Josh Adams, the Motown king of comedy. Absolutely, yeah,

678
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: that one. You know, it is very difficult to Uh,

679
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: that's a tough spot because Adams is going into this

680
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: room filled with professional athletes and macho guys and they're

681
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: very much in that mode in terms of competition. Was like,

682
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: that's a group, that's a family, that's a yeah, and

683
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: it's like impress us and he has to go there

684
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: and do it. And damn it did Josh Adams impress him.

685
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: He slayd, he killed and his set that we watched

686
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: here there, here's here's one um when he looked over

687
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Speaker 1: to the number two overall pick and addressed Hutchinson, hud,

688
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: what's up? What are you going? Just justin Timberlake coming off.

689
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Speaker 1: It's a big strong if as Adam's coming up on

690
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: your list. Okay, so we'll hold, we'll hold there. So

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Speaker 1: he's my vote because I just again I respect that

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00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: he went into that room and won the crowd over

693
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: and just was funny as well. So the third place vote,

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Speaker 1: Josh Adams, I absolutely loved him, but he was not

695
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Speaker 1: my second place, who really like so much. I loved

696
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,439
Speaker 1: him so much. He can't. I mean, at this point,

697
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Speaker 1: I would never want step on your first place vote.

698
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: But I never imagined the stand up comic that went

699
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: into the meeting room. He was my favorite. That was

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00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: he had so many good lines. I laughed so many times.

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00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm never not going to see Aidan Hutchinson as justin

702
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: timber Lake or a backstreet boy coming off the edge

703
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: like that. He called Dan Campbell like Hulk Hogan. He

704
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: was so good. He came in, he hooked everybody with

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Speaker 1: the signing votus was two hundred dollars line and like

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Speaker 1: that was it. That was his inn. So I gave

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Speaker 1: him a first place vote. I mean, we'll get to

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00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 1: we'll get to the first place. Um. But their second

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00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: place vote, second place vote, it was between Dan Campbell

710
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: and Deuce Staley, and I gave it to Dan Campbell.

711
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell is just it's so hard to to to

712
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 1: beat him because of the presence that he has. The

713
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: crazy things that he says that don't even make sense,

714
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: but I still love them and I still remember them.

715
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: I mean, paint your faces and sharpen your spears like that,

716
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Speaker 1: what's what are you talking about? Absolutely? Yeah, So he's

717
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 1: for me. Winning is everything to him and they finally

718
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 1: got to win for him. So it's a big week

719
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Speaker 1: for him. And I want Dan Campbell to be successful because,

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Speaker 1: you know, as a fan of a downtrodden team, eternally

721
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: downtrodden team, the Jets, I view the Lions as brethren.

722
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: I'd love to see it, and they're in the NFC,

723
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: so they're not my issue anyway. I would love to

724
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Speaker 1: see the Lions and Dan Campbell rise. But even if

725
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 1: it didn't work out, ultimately, Dan Campbell has proven himself

726
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: as a great kind of teacher of men and a

727
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: man who loves ball and loves the sport. He's going

728
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 1: to be around und NFL for as long as he

729
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: wants to be around NFL. I've really had he's flying

730
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: that plane. He is, he is flying the plane. Uh

731
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Speaker 1: second for me, I'm going to give it to Khalil Pimpleton. Yeah. Again,

732
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: his name is Khalil Pimpleton. He when he's trying to

733
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: think what am I gonna do in front of this team,

734
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: he says, I'm gonna juggle And again, I just thought

735
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: the gumption It's everything I teach my I try to

736
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 1: teach my son's you know, don't do what you think

737
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: makes you fit in. Just do what you feel you

738
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: should do and stand strong and just go do it.

739
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: And then he makes man in this world. Yeah, and

740
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: he made some plays in the joint practices and I

741
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 1: just thought, here's an underdog that I could get behind.

742
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: Pimp pimp too. Yeah that's right. Oh my gosh. I

743
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: just caught that because I was like, who's he calling

744
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: pimp out there? That makes a whole lot of sense. Um, yeah,

745
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: it's a good one. And um, your so your first

746
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 1: is gonna be Josh Adams. Do want to hear josh

747
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: on Dan Campbell? Yes, all right, let's hear it. Pop.

748
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 1: I know that big game we need doing special Dames family.

749
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: He walked up to me biggest you know, I'm so true.

750
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 1: It's also like the little elements of the joke that

751
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: you know, his routine kills like breaking up the wedge.

752
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: I just love that, Like he you know, you know

753
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 1: who knows ball, Josh Adams. He's really good. He was funny.

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00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: ALEXANDZELONEI thor, I mean it was just really it was

755
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: a good set. I enjoyed it. It was great set,

756
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: so good job, Josh Adams. Um, I do have Dan

757
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: Campbell with my first place vote for everything we've talked about.

758
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: It was weird. Did you think it was weird? I

759
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 1: know you thought it was weird because we talked about

760
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: it already before that we started talking to the mics.

761
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: Did you think it was weird, Connie that when Josh

762
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: Adams is going off on Dan Campbell in a lighthearted way,

763
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: but in a pointed way, we never got a reaction

764
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: shot to Campbell. Yes, And I was watching to see

765
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: the player's eyes and some of them were like had

766
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: a little bit of like they were nervous laughing, And

767
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: I was wondering if they were looking at Campbell because

768
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: maybe he wasn't happy about it, But I'm sure he

769
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: he seems like a guy that as take a joke

770
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: and let's let's just be fair because we are we've

771
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: been complimenting NFL films and how brilliant they are. If

772
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: there's an overhead shot of the entire coaching staff pulling

773
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 1: back maniacal Dan Campbell trying to race to the front

774
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: of the stage to beat the comedian uh into the ground,

775
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: we need to see it. He was sharpening his spear. Yeah, yeah,

776
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 1: he's like physically sharpening a spear in the corner while

777
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: the comedian is uh, lightheartedly insulting him. Yes, we need

778
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: to see it. I was really wondering about that because

779
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: they had cutaways of everyone else that he was ripping

780
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,919
Speaker 1: on unless he wasn't in the room, which doesn't sound

781
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: like Dan Campbell's style. We need to see how Dan

782
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: Campbell reacted to that unless he unless it was, you know,

783
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: a reaction, but they probably would have showed that. But

784
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: unless they had to take it out or something, unless

785
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: he didn't love it, and then the lions are like,

786
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: we don't love it. Oh little conspiracy theory. Alright, So

787
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell gets my first play Places vote because again

788
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: I think he's absolutely so far three episodes and lived

789
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: up to the hype of what we thought. He's a

790
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: quote machine, he's high energy, and he's just like he's

791
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: the sun in this universe. Yeah, he's the straw that

792
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: stars the drink. All right, that's it for this week.

793
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,240
Speaker 1: We'll be back next week next Tuesday night for another

794
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: recap for the penultimate episode of the seventeenth season of

795
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks. I can't believe it goes fast, goes fast,

796
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,919
Speaker 1: and uh, I hope people are sticking with the show

797
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: to the very end because they think they've built this

798
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: up and it's going to be a lot of on

799
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 1: to see how these underdogs come through the blowhard nations

800
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: standing up, maybe some more Jared Goff? Can we get

801
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: one more scream? Yes? Whoa? Oh my god? Loved it

802
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,919
Speaker 1: all right until next week later