WEBVTT - Selects: Some Nutso Fan Theories

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, it's Josh and for this week's select, I've

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<v Speaker 1>chosen our awesome episode on Not So Fan Theories. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a straight ahead, easy, breezy, beautiful episode and I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you enjoy it tremendously. Let's go Welcome to Stuff you

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<v Speaker 1>Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio. Hey, and welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. I almost forgot who I

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<v Speaker 1>was for a second. There's Charles w Chuck Bryant. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's Jerry or is she really there? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know anymore, because it just occurred to me.

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing a show on TV show Fan Theories, and

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<v Speaker 1>we have our own little fan theory here that Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't exist. Yeah, that's true. That's a fan theory which

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<v Speaker 1>is sort of a common thread. And a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these is either like, oh, they were really dead or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, or they didn't exist to begin with, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so we've heard from people for years to think

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<v Speaker 1>that Jerry's made up. I love it, yes, because they're right.

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<v Speaker 1>We're we're not saying no, actually, Jerry's totally real anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at it right now. So I was going

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<v Speaker 1>through the internet looking for think pieces, essays on why

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<v Speaker 1>people come up with fan theories or what about fan

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<v Speaker 1>theories make them, you know, make shows better. Couldn't find anything. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the answer is obvious. I think that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't find anything, too. People just have time on

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<v Speaker 1>their hands. That's not what I was gonna set an say.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say that it takes something that's already

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<v Speaker 1>pretty enjoyable and adds entirely new dimensions in depth to it.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes something familiar and you can go back and

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<v Speaker 1>rewatch it through different lens. Now. Yeah, and you have

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<v Speaker 1>time on your hands, right, It's definitely not something that

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<v Speaker 1>super busy people do, you know. No, And then I

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<v Speaker 1>also was like, maybe I should just calm down. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to explain everything. We can just have fun

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<v Speaker 1>sharing fan theories. That's what we're gonna do. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>a summer break one. Yeah, this feels like one of those.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm we're both drunk, sure, pretty drunk, just kidding kids

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<v Speaker 1>out there, We're just joking. Should we just get right

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<v Speaker 1>into these Yes, some of these are going to be shorter,

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<v Speaker 1>others are going to be a little longer, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna kind of jump around, right, Should we start

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<v Speaker 1>with the granddaddy or end with the granddaddy? Well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the granddaddy to you, um, say by the wall? No,

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<v Speaker 1>do you like that one though? Yeah? And I thought

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<v Speaker 1>maybe if I said it, Yeah, I think we'll start

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<v Speaker 1>with say by the bell. I don't know why. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought if I said it really fast, hopefully I would

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<v Speaker 1>know what you're saying. We'll start with say by the bell.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll finish with one that I know you're okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>that's very um click baby, I know, but so one

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<v Speaker 1>you won't believe the last one. One of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that is really hard to do when it comes up

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to fan theories, we should say, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess we should define A fan theory is basically, it's

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<v Speaker 1>where somebody who likes a show says, hey, you know

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<v Speaker 1>this show that you think means this or is about

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<v Speaker 1>all this, it's actually this is what's going on. Almost

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, it's just somebody's idea. But the part

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<v Speaker 1>of the backbone of a fan theory is that it

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<v Speaker 1>has to hold up in just about every circumstance. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll get one out of the way quickly. Is

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<v Speaker 1>a bad example. Okay, Because to me, a bad fan

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<v Speaker 1>theory is a murder. She wrote, she was really a

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<v Speaker 1>serial killer because you know, you never found out what

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<v Speaker 1>happened to her husband and all these people are dying

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<v Speaker 1>around her. I like that one, yeah, but it's just

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<v Speaker 1>too easy. It's not like to me, a good fan

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<v Speaker 1>theory is one you can say, and this happened, and

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<v Speaker 1>look at this, and what about this? Okay, about this,

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<v Speaker 1>so I know what you mean, and yes, you a

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<v Speaker 1>fan theory doesn't have to do there else it's just

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<v Speaker 1>some schmo saying something somewhere. Yeah, but murder, she wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>has a couple of things to back that up besides

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<v Speaker 1>the husband, and the husband I think is whatever. But

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<v Speaker 1>the point that I've seen here there number one is

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<v Speaker 1>Jessica Fletcher is a murder author, a murder mystery authoress,

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<v Speaker 1>and she murders follow her everywhere she goes. Right, think

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<v Speaker 1>about the last time you stumbled upon a murder, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just called TV. Okay, So that's one thing, hold on.

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<v Speaker 1>And then secondly, even when she travels, she stumbles upon

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<v Speaker 1>new murders. But more to the point, in her little

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<v Speaker 1>town of Cabot Cove, a population thirty five. Ye, a

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<v Speaker 1>significant number of the say, two hundred and seventy four

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<v Speaker 1>episodes of Murder, she wrote, took place there. If even

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred of those murders happened in a town of

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five hundred, yeah, it would be the murder capital

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<v Speaker 1>of the world percentage wise per capita. So I see

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<v Speaker 1>what you're saying by the fact that she's a writer.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like she's a detective. Like you can't say it. Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>the eighteen we're always getting in these crazy adventures like

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<v Speaker 1>they were hired to each Yeah, they were seeking it out.

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<v Speaker 1>She just happens to be sucked into it, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>she just happens to be there. Right. I've never seen

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<v Speaker 1>that at TV show either, so that probably something to

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<v Speaker 1>do with it. What never seen murder, she wrote, shuck

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<v Speaker 1>because I was a thirteen year old boy, not a

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<v Speaker 1>well sixty five year old person. It's even better now.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really, yeah, you're rewatching it. Oh yeah, it's on

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<v Speaker 1>Netflix and I think prime wow. Oh yeah, man, it's good.

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<v Speaker 1>Check it out. And I'm not saying, like, oh, murder,

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<v Speaker 1>she wrote's good. I'm a hipster. I've been watching murder,

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<v Speaker 1>she wrote for years and years now, pal, Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a beard. No, but hold on, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I want to extend this for a second. You raise

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<v Speaker 1>a very good point, and I feel like I defended murders.

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<v Speaker 1>She wrote with that same point that a fan theory

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<v Speaker 1>has to have meat on its bones. Yes, it can't

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<v Speaker 1>be an offhanded thing. It's prove what you just said.

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<v Speaker 1>Prove why Jessica Fletcher is a serial killer? Well that's

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<v Speaker 1>that they there's a couple of them. It's a little thin, granted, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's something to back it up, which makes it

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<v Speaker 1>a decent fan theory. Not the best, but a decent one.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing is it's really difficult to pinpoint the

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<v Speaker 1>origin of fan theories. Oh yeah, like who did this first? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>who came up with this idea? What loser? Well, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got one for you. So we were going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the saved by the bellfan theory, and people are

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<v Speaker 1>just like nervous with anticipation about that one. Now, as

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<v Speaker 1>far back as I can tell, it looks like a person.

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<v Speaker 1>A writer on the website Cracked Cracks website, a writer

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<v Speaker 1>named um Man I lost their name Logan Trent in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty and twelve wrote a post called Saved by the

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<v Speaker 1>Bell a conspiracy theory. Um. Oh, so he originated this one.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as I can tell, he gives zero credit

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<v Speaker 1>to anybody else. And the way that the post is written,

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<v Speaker 1>it really comes across like he is laying out his

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<v Speaker 1>argument himself. All right, So it's possible. And if if,

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<v Speaker 1>if you had this idea prior to twenty and twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're not Logan Trent, let us know. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>bestowing Logan Trent with the origin of the Saved by

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<v Speaker 1>the Bell fan theory, which is one of the best. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, big shout out to Cracked in Mental Floss

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<v Speaker 1>and our own article and who else is MeTV had

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<v Speaker 1>a good one? Yeah, um Paste Magazine one. Uh, there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of good fan theory articles out there,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. So at long last, Save by the Bell

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<v Speaker 1>and I like this one. And I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember watching this show at all, what but I know

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<v Speaker 1>these characters and the gist, so I had to have

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<v Speaker 1>watched it at some point. You didn't watch Saved by

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<v Speaker 1>the Bell. No, it wouldn't. That wouldn't in my wheelhouse,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess not a little older teenage boy slash college Um,

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<v Speaker 1>well they had saved by the Bell of college years.

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<v Speaker 1>They just for you. But I do know these characters,

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<v Speaker 1>so it had to have absorbed into me somehow. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So here's the deal. Pre saved by the Bell. This

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<v Speaker 1>I did not know. Um there was a TV show

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<v Speaker 1>was it called Good Morning Miss Bliss? Yes, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was unbearably bad? So he saw that too. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of this show is there's this boy named Zach.

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<v Speaker 1>This is an Indiana that just Zach Zach Morris. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>these Zach played by Mark Paul Gosler, Right, yeah, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>this was an Indiana, of course, not California. And he

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<v Speaker 1>was a troublemaker. And there was a teacher named Miss

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<v Speaker 1>Bliss who was super smart and always thwarted him. She

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<v Speaker 1>was what's the name of the lady who is in

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<v Speaker 1>the original Parent Trap played the two twins Hayley Mills.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it was her. Oh okay. Apparently, like Ben, when

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<v Speaker 1>you signed a contract with Disney as a child, they

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<v Speaker 1>own you for life. He has a couple of friends

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<v Speaker 1>named Mikey and Nicky. They're always putting him in his place.

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<v Speaker 1>He has a brother. His parents are divorced, and by

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<v Speaker 1>all accounts Zach Morris and good Morning Miss Bliss is

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a schlub who's always sort of getting

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<v Speaker 1>his come upance from other people. Yeah, kind of a loser. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>basically the opposite of Zach Morris and say By the Bell.

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<v Speaker 1>Did they ever say Zach attack just make that up? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I think so. I think there's a T shirt even

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<v Speaker 1>that said that. So flash forward and how many years

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<v Speaker 1>later was this couple? So good Morning Miss Bliss goes

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<v Speaker 1>off the air. I get the feeling it wasn't very popular,

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<v Speaker 1>or they wouldn't have rebooted it as say By the Bell.

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<v Speaker 1>They would have just you know, kept it going exactly. So,

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<v Speaker 1>say By the Bell comes along. And now Zach is

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<v Speaker 1>at Bayside in California. Right, he's mister everything. He's as

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<v Speaker 1>this article points out, he's the most popular kid in

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<v Speaker 1>school and excels in everything, sports, music, casual, racism, whatever. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's the logan Trent swording. He's the Alpha and

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<v Speaker 1>his circle friends Mikey and Nikki are gone. Yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 1>just gone. No explanation, right, And there's no explanation for

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<v Speaker 1>any of this, like how he got to California. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's the same character, right, it's the exact same character,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are some huge, huge changes, Like at his

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<v Speaker 1>core he is a different person. Actually, not necessarily at

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<v Speaker 1>his core, but as far as how he's treated and

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<v Speaker 1>viewed by his peers and everyone else. Yeah, he's the

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<v Speaker 1>differences night and day. He's not a dweeb anymore. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not a loser. He's he's a total winner. He's Zach

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<v Speaker 1>attack has logan. Trent points out, like, um, if he

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<v Speaker 1>were to miss a quiz, rather than fail, he would

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<v Speaker 1>convince the teacher to hold a bake off, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he would win the bake off by cheating like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That was how like he went through life. And also

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<v Speaker 1>very notably, his parents were no longer divorced, they were married,

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<v Speaker 1>and he didn't have a brother. He was an only

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<v Speaker 1>child and was beloved by all right, Yeah, he had

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<v Speaker 1>I think Slater was went from his rival to his

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<v Speaker 1>um sort of his pal, but his you know, his

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<v Speaker 1>second Yeah, his wingman, right, Screech was around him both,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think he was sort of screeching both, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and change much right, Yeah, his screech has always been screeched.

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<v Speaker 1>What can you do? Bill? Stab you in the bar,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, So what's the big reveal? What's the fan theory?

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<v Speaker 1>So the fan theory is that Saved by the Bell

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<v Speaker 1>is the daydream fantasy of Zach Morris who's actually living

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<v Speaker 1>in India, back in Indiana at John Kennedy Junior High,

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<v Speaker 1>and that the whole it's great man, and that the

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<v Speaker 1>whole um, the whole premise of this this fan theory

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<v Speaker 1>is revealed through the theme song, right, right, So in

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<v Speaker 1>the theme song, the theme song talks about like how

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<v Speaker 1>harried Zach is. Yeah, well it's all first person, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but you assume that it's talking about Zach, because the

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<v Speaker 1>whole show is it revolves around Zach. He's the narrator

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<v Speaker 1>um and he's having like a lot of trouble, like

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<v Speaker 1>getting ready and he gets out to the bus just

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<v Speaker 1>in time to see it fly by, and the teacher's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna pop a test and he knows he's in a

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<v Speaker 1>mess and doggate all his homework and if you actually

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<v Speaker 1>watch the show, nothing ever gets Zach. He's untouchable. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So in the theme song it says, it's all right

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm saved by the Bell, right, yes, which this

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<v Speaker 1>fan theory suggests that once once he settles in it

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<v Speaker 1>either settles into class and starts stage, or it gets

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<v Speaker 1>home at night and starts dreaming he can go off

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<v Speaker 1>to bay Side, where he's the biggest winner around. That

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<v Speaker 1>is the bell. Right. So the fact that these lyrics

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<v Speaker 1>by the time I grab my books and I give

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<v Speaker 1>myself a look, I'm at the corner just in time

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<v Speaker 1>to see the bus, and then eventually writing low in

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<v Speaker 1>my chair, so she won't know I'm there, meaning the teacher.

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<v Speaker 1>This all is Zach and Indiana, right. It describes a

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<v Speaker 1>different person. Doesn't make any sense that these lyrics if

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<v Speaker 1>you'd hadn't not known that that was a show that existed,

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<v Speaker 1>and all you knew was say by the Bell, these

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<v Speaker 1>lyrics don't make any sense exactly, but they do if

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<v Speaker 1>it is all a fantasy in his imagination. Sadly, it

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<v Speaker 1>also makes sense if you think that the producers hired

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<v Speaker 1>the composer before they were really aware of what the

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<v Speaker 1>show is going to be like, and that's what the

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<v Speaker 1>composer came up with lyrics. Wise, yeah, it's not nearly

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<v Speaker 1>as fun. Well. The other thing I like about fan

0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:04.800
<v Speaker 1>theory is that they are almost not real. It's just

0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:08.320
<v Speaker 1>fans having fun. Yeah, but I like the idea to

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<v Speaker 1>imagine like some subversive writer that's like, oh, well, here's

0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:15.280
<v Speaker 1>what we'll do exactly. It's all an elaborate fantasy of

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<v Speaker 1>this Zach guy. I've got one other thing that the

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Cracked article points out, if not someone

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<v Speaker 1>else came up with it later. They pointed out that

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<v Speaker 1>Zach has the power to stop time and address the

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<v Speaker 1>camera like he breaks the fourth wall fairly regularly, and um,

0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:36.680
<v Speaker 1>he can just stop time and move around within this

0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:41.200
<v Speaker 1>frozen time, which also, I mean, that's a weird thing

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<v Speaker 1>for somebody to be able to do if they're not

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of their own day dream, yeah or

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<v Speaker 1>night dream. I love it, man, that's a good one. Um.

0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:56.760
<v Speaker 1>And you know, things like Mikey and Nikki disappeared at

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<v Speaker 1>one point, Kelly is in love with him and then

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<v Speaker 1>she just is gone with no explanation. Yeah, people kind

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<v Speaker 1>of pop in and out sometimes with no explanation at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Kelly dumped him and then like all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, she's gone. And she was like one of

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<v Speaker 1>the characters throughout the entire saved by the bell, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she's just gone. Once she dumped Zack. He's

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<v Speaker 1>he's Terry. He's really bad at school, but he got

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<v Speaker 1>a fifteen o two in the SAT. Like all this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff is like dream dream stuff. Right. Well, that's another

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<v Speaker 1>point that Logan Trent makes is that a fifteen o

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<v Speaker 1>two is literally impossible, Like you can't score a fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>o two SAT. Yeah it's fifteen hundred right, Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's all it's even more evidence that all this is

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<v Speaker 1>made up, and by it apparently a not so smart

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<v Speaker 1>kid man. So that's saved by the bell man. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to take a break and then get get back

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<v Speaker 1>to it. I think so I could do this all day.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, all right, we'll go through a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>quicker ones here. The Fresh Prince is dead. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of really don't need to say anything else, do you. Well?

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<v Speaker 1>In the the TV's theme song where he talks about

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<v Speaker 1>getting in a fight and that's the whole reason he's

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<v Speaker 1>sent to Bill bel Air, Yeah, the Fresh Prince of

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<v Speaker 1>bel Air. It's a TV show from nineteen ninety ninety six,

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<v Speaker 1>and the rap that Will Smith, the real life Will

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<v Speaker 1>Smith actually plays a character named Will Smith, and he

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<v Speaker 1>talks about getting in a fight and getting sent off

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<v Speaker 1>to bel Air to get out, you know, to get

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<v Speaker 1>him away from the rough neighborhood and what Philly West, Philadelphia,

0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:56.480
<v Speaker 1>the Ford and raised. And so the theory is that

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<v Speaker 1>he was actually killed during this fight, right, and that um,

0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:05.280
<v Speaker 1>everything else is you know, his journey in the afterlife. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The cab that picks him up to take him in

0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:11.960
<v Speaker 1>bell Air, the rare cab is supposedly God or some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of um ethereal figure that's taking him to the afterlife,

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<v Speaker 1>which is bell Air. His parents are like basically non existent,

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<v Speaker 1>but they show up a couple of times. This is

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<v Speaker 1>explained away by the fan theory as his parents visiting

0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:32.200
<v Speaker 1>their son's grave. Right, it's pretty awesome. Yeah. And then

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<v Speaker 1>um boys, the men apparently showed up at one point,

0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:38.600
<v Speaker 1>but they were like a heavenly choir. Oh, I don't

0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:43.520
<v Speaker 1>remember that episode. So that put all that together. Fresh

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<v Speaker 1>Prince is dead? That's right. What do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>do next? Should we do? Do the two of them

0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:56.040
<v Speaker 1>from Gilligan's Island? Yeah? The drug one's super lame? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought so too. There's this one theory that the

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<v Speaker 1>and this one's right, it's just dumb that mister Howell

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<v Speaker 1>on Gilligan's Island paid Gilligan and the Skipper to take

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<v Speaker 1>him out to see to do a drug deal, which

0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:10.800
<v Speaker 1>is why he has a trunk load of cash. A

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<v Speaker 1>trunk full of cash. Ginger's got a drug habit. Marianne's

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<v Speaker 1>a federal agent. This just sounds like, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>someone smoked some weed and came up with like like

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<v Speaker 1>someone said, hey, what's your first idea of what Gilligan's

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<v Speaker 1>Island could have been? Other than what it was, they

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<v Speaker 1>would a drug thing. Man. I think he nailed it,

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<v Speaker 1>But there's a better fan theory for Gilligan's Island agreed.

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<v Speaker 1>Gilligan's Island is Hell. That this, like The Fresh Prince

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<v Speaker 1>of bel Air, takes place in the afterlife, but not

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<v Speaker 1>in Heaven, in Hell, or at least in purgatory. That

0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:55.600
<v Speaker 1>the Minnows shipwreck caused everyone on board to drown, and

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<v Speaker 1>that in Hell, each one of the characters represents one

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<v Speaker 1>of the seven Deadly sins. Ginger's lust, Marianne is envy,

0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:10.720
<v Speaker 1>Professors Pride, Thurston, Hell of course is greed. Missus Howell,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen his sloth and gluttony seen that too. I've

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<v Speaker 1>also seen Skipper as either gluttony or wrath. Wrath makes

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more sense. And then Gilligan is sloth or

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<v Speaker 1>is Satan himself? Yeah. And one of the giveaways for

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<v Speaker 1>Gilligan being Satan, well there's two of them. One is

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<v Speaker 1>that he's always wearing a red shirt. Oh well, so

0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:34.080
<v Speaker 1>obviously Satan because Satan wore a red Rugby shirt. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he's always although it seems like it's always accidental,

0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:42.600
<v Speaker 1>he's always thwarting their plans, like every time they get

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<v Speaker 1>something something going to get off of the island, right,

0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Gilligan is the one who somehow screws it up and

0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:50.720
<v Speaker 1>they're stuck there again. So he's keeping them in hell.

0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:56.879
<v Speaker 1>And this one actually has legs. Yeah, apparently. Sherwood Schwartz,

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<v Speaker 1>the creator of Gilligan's Island, in a book, confirmed that

0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:04.560
<v Speaker 1>they did. It was his idea that they did stand

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<v Speaker 1>for the Seven Deadly Sins. Yeah, is that right? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So there you go one of the rare fan theories

0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:14.280
<v Speaker 1>that actually was true. And I wonder whoever whoever thought

0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:18.040
<v Speaker 1>of that was like, no, yeah, I was right. Well

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<v Speaker 1>that makes me wonder if somehow it got out or

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<v Speaker 1>something maybe or he was retroactively just being like, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I meant. Here's a quick spot from Star

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<v Speaker 1>Trek one that I kind of liked. We'll do both

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<v Speaker 1>of the Star Trek ones about that. Okay, um and

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<v Speaker 1>Um on record is not having watched Star Trek Yeah,

0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:45.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean me neither. But in Star Trek six, the

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<v Speaker 1>Undiscovered Country, the Undiscovered Country. Sorry, people are so mad

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<v Speaker 1>at me right now, Trek He's yeah. Uh. And an

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<v Speaker 1>ancestor of mine maintained that when you eliminate impossible, whatever remains,

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<v Speaker 1>however improbable, must be the truth. And that was Spock

0:21:04.920 --> 0:21:07.920
<v Speaker 1>in that movie. And the source of that was Sherlock

0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Holmes himself, from the Sign of four, from an eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety book. And so the idea here is that Spock

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<v Speaker 1>is related to Sherlock Holmes. It's a little weird, how

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<v Speaker 1>about that? But I could see it. I mean they're

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<v Speaker 1>both pretty rational. Yeah. Well, Sherlock Holmes he loved his speedballs.

0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:28.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Spock was ever into those. No, he

0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:32.080
<v Speaker 1>was more evolved. You know, Sherlock Holmes loves speedballs, though,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you. I did not. Doesn't surprise me. It surprised

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<v Speaker 1>me at first. Really. Yeah, So there's another Star Trek one.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this one that Andy Griffith is the pre

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<v Speaker 1>apocalyptic world that leads into Star Trek and this one

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty awesome. So it's based on a Star Trek

0:21:57.480 --> 0:22:01.840
<v Speaker 1>episode Chuck Mirie m Iry like Syrie but with an M.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah and um. In this episode, the Star Trek crew

0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:12.440
<v Speaker 1>beams down to Earth and it's very obvious it's Mayberry.

0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:16.760
<v Speaker 1>But it's like a poke post apocalyptic Mayberry. It's peopled

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<v Speaker 1>entirely by kids. And the reason why it's people entirely

0:22:19.880 --> 0:22:23.760
<v Speaker 1>by kids because some disease has broken out where you

0:22:24.119 --> 0:22:28.440
<v Speaker 1>die at the onset of puberty. Yeah, and it's uh,

0:22:28.640 --> 0:22:32.359
<v Speaker 1>well it is Mayberry because it is Mayberry. It's literally

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<v Speaker 1>the same backlot that they shot both shows at and

0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:40.000
<v Speaker 1>they just outfitted Mayberry to be post apocalyptic right down

0:22:40.080 --> 0:22:43.200
<v Speaker 1>to like Floyd's barbershop. Yeah, but I think they just

0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:45.280
<v Speaker 1>scratched out Floyd. They scratched out the f and it

0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:47.440
<v Speaker 1>just said Lloyd. Oh did it? I don't know. I

0:22:47.520 --> 0:22:49.640
<v Speaker 1>think it's said Floyd's. Did it really? Yeah? Oh it's

0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:51.399
<v Speaker 1>that on the nose huh. I think. So, Oh, this

0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:55.480
<v Speaker 1>one's great. This is a great fan thing. Well there's

0:22:55.480 --> 0:23:02.600
<v Speaker 1>another Part two that the kid who played Barney's cousin, Virgil. Uh,

0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:07.760
<v Speaker 1>he actually appears in this Star Trek episode. What Yeah,

0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:11.320
<v Speaker 1>so it's full circle. Gene Roddenberry was like, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>come up with a fan theory. No one knows what

0:23:13.280 --> 0:23:15.720
<v Speaker 1>those are yet, but I'm going to lay it down

0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:19.560
<v Speaker 1>for him decades from now the internet comes around. I

0:23:19.600 --> 0:23:21.600
<v Speaker 1>don't know what that is, but it's going to be something.

0:23:21.960 --> 0:23:25.959
<v Speaker 1>I'm Gene Roddenberry. You know the beginning of Andy Griffith

0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:28.840
<v Speaker 1>when they're you know, walking down to the lake and

0:23:28.920 --> 0:23:31.000
<v Speaker 1>he skipped the stones on the lake. Yeah, it's like

0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:34.520
<v Speaker 1>right in the Hollywood Hills, is that right? Yeah? My

0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:36.800
<v Speaker 1>brother drove me up there one time and it's like

0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:40.280
<v Speaker 1>this look familiar and he started whistling the theme song

0:23:40.359 --> 0:23:42.960
<v Speaker 1>and I was like no, wow. He said yeah, and

0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:46.280
<v Speaker 1>he's like the bat Caves like over there. Oh yeah yeah,

0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:48.679
<v Speaker 1>and it's sort of you know, killed my dreams. Well,

0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:54.520
<v Speaker 1>the same with mash Too. That's like the Hollywood Hills. Well,

0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:58.920
<v Speaker 1>like the mountains behind Malibu Rum when you fly into

0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:01.280
<v Speaker 1>La you can and you're looking for You're like, oh,

0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:04.680
<v Speaker 1>I totally see that. That. What we're talking about is

0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:10.960
<v Speaker 1>the helicopter in the opening montage for Mash Yeah, was

0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:15.879
<v Speaker 1>like it's supposedly flying through Korea, but it's actually Yes,

0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:19.600
<v Speaker 1>it's California where they're shooting, which is way cheaper to shoot. Yeah,

0:24:19.680 --> 0:24:22.080
<v Speaker 1>we shot. I mean I shot a TV commercial over there,

0:24:22.760 --> 0:24:24.480
<v Speaker 1>and I think we talked about this before. There's you

0:24:24.560 --> 0:24:26.639
<v Speaker 1>know one of the jeeps is still out there. Oh no,

0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:29.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember that rusted out and overgrown with weeds.

0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Huh and um. But yeah, it's like an old army jeep. Yeah,

0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:34.960
<v Speaker 1>there are a couple of little remnants. Jamie Farr still

0:24:34.960 --> 0:24:37.400
<v Speaker 1>out there, like, hey, how you doing, Thanks for visiting.

0:24:37.640 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 1>You need anyone today? Can I get a lift back background?

0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I'll be I'm cheap. That's terrible. Is he still around?

0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm supposed to know this. He's like my hometown's favorite son.

0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh was he really from there? From Toledo? Yeah? Is

0:24:53.240 --> 0:24:54.920
<v Speaker 1>that why they did wrote that into the show. Yeah,

0:24:55.000 --> 0:24:57.080
<v Speaker 1>and he's always talking about Tony Paco's, which is a

0:24:57.119 --> 0:24:59.240
<v Speaker 1>real place. Oh yeah, I knew all that, but I

0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:01.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't know if it was. Yeah, I know, Jamie Farr

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:03.719
<v Speaker 1>is definitely from Toledo. Okay, well he saw they never

0:25:03.840 --> 0:25:07.760
<v Speaker 1>let you forget it. Yeah, he's eighty two. Hey, Jamie Farr,

0:25:07.880 --> 0:25:14.679
<v Speaker 1>godspeedzer Um what else we got? So? Um? This one

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:17.760
<v Speaker 1>is one of my favorites. This good one. Garfield, Oh yeah,

0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:22.880
<v Speaker 1>is dying alone in an abandoned house. Yeah, and everything

0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:27.399
<v Speaker 1>that you've seen in all except I believe six of

0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:30.440
<v Speaker 1>the Garfield strips, all of them that have been going

0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:34.720
<v Speaker 1>on since nineteen seventy seven, is the hallucination of a dying,

0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:38.440
<v Speaker 1>starving cat in an abandoned house. Yeah. I was way

0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:42.480
<v Speaker 1>into Garfield. Yeah, Garfield was great, but the books Garfield

0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:44.800
<v Speaker 1>and bloom County were my two biggies. I was never

0:25:44.880 --> 0:25:50.760
<v Speaker 1>into bloom County. Oh man, I loved it. I did

0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:52.920
<v Speaker 1>love Garfield, though, I mean it was a little bloom

0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:54.879
<v Speaker 1>County is a little more advanced, I think, sure, and

0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:58.639
<v Speaker 1>it's humor, which I still got. But Garfield was like

0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:01.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of perfect for ten year Chuck. It was perfect.

0:26:02.920 --> 0:26:05.159
<v Speaker 1>So what you're talking about is, in October of nineteen

0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:08.359
<v Speaker 1>eighty nine, Jim Davis, the creative Garfield, said, you know

0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:10.240
<v Speaker 1>what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna put out six strips

0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:15.119
<v Speaker 1>in a row that are not funny. No, they're actually

0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:17.359
<v Speaker 1>kind of unsightling. Yeah, very bleak. And if you go

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:19.399
<v Speaker 1>and look at these strips you can find them online.

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Obviously it's Garfield alone in an abandoned house and it's

0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:29.680
<v Speaker 1>really heavy. Yeah. Garfield wakes up in the first strip

0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:32.840
<v Speaker 1>and no one's around and he's starting to get a

0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:35.800
<v Speaker 1>little panicked, and then it just kind of continues on

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:39.639
<v Speaker 1>and his panic continues to build over the course of

0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:44.560
<v Speaker 1>this six strips, and finally in the last one, I believe,

0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:49.040
<v Speaker 1>he wakes up and John and Odie are there and

0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:52.280
<v Speaker 1>everything's back to normally so happy. Yeah, but leading up

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:54.760
<v Speaker 1>to that point in strip like three four to five,

0:26:55.400 --> 0:26:59.440
<v Speaker 1>it's it's getting a little freaky. Yeah, And again, like

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:01.800
<v Speaker 1>you said, there's nothing funny about it's not it wasn't

0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:04.159
<v Speaker 1>intended to be funny. It was intended to scare. And

0:27:04.600 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 1>the idea is is that what we're seeing in these

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:12.000
<v Speaker 1>six strips or the actual reality of Garfield and that

0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:14.960
<v Speaker 1>everything else he finally manages to go back to is

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:19.640
<v Speaker 1>basically dying fever dream. Yeah. Feature John and Odie. Yeah,

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:22.200
<v Speaker 1>but well they disappear though in that strip too at

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:24.480
<v Speaker 1>the end. Yeah, like they appear and then like he

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 1>goes to give him food and then they like disappear

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:30.200
<v Speaker 1>and he's alone again at the end of that sixth strip. Yeah,

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:34.399
<v Speaker 1>oh okay, So he's hallucinated them and then is alone,

0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:37.479
<v Speaker 1>okay and abandoned. So that's why okay, right, So then

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:40.639
<v Speaker 1>that backs up that whole idea that yeah, they're just

0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 1>a hallucination because they're demonstrated as an hallucination in that

0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:47.320
<v Speaker 1>sixth series strip. Yeah, and he's six strips series. That

0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:50.880
<v Speaker 1>was his intent was very much to do something sad

0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 1>and different, and I think he heard quite a bit

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:56.920
<v Speaker 1>from the fans like what is going on? Right, And

0:27:57.160 --> 0:28:00.320
<v Speaker 1>then apparently he kind of laughed at the idea when

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:04.560
<v Speaker 1>someone said, Hey, you realize what people think, that this

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 1>is all a big hallucination, like every other strip you've

0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 1>drawn as a hallucination of this dying cat. And he

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:12.880
<v Speaker 1>laughed about it. But like, what what else were people

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:15.920
<v Speaker 1>supposed to think? Yeah, that he just got really heavy

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 1>and weird for six strips. And I think the other

0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:20.560
<v Speaker 1>thing that was so off putting about it too, is

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 1>it resolves or there is no resolution. I think on

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:28.479
<v Speaker 1>that that seventh day, the Sunday one just picks up

0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:31.680
<v Speaker 1>like everything's totally normal, and it never saw, which makes

0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:34.879
<v Speaker 1>it even more unsettling. Yeah, and then Chuck, there's a

0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 1>there's a clear I don't know if it was a

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 1>reference to it or coincidence or whatever, but there's this

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 1>um animated movie called Allegro non Tropo and there's a

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:53.680
<v Speaker 1>segment in it, what's the name of the segment, valse

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 1>triste about a cat that turns out to be a

0:28:56.880 --> 0:28:59.240
<v Speaker 1>ghost cat. Have you ever seen it? No, it's very good.

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, haunting. But it sort of parallels this Garfield

0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 1>story very much. So, whether or not was purposeful, we

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:08.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know that part, right, or did Jim Davis like

0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 1>discount that too. I've never heard whether or not he

0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 1>discounts that. Yeah, but that's definitely go check out the

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Garfield strips. Just just look up like Garfield dead or

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 1>dying or whatever, Yeah, and it'll bring him up. But

0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:25.040
<v Speaker 1>um also, just I'm sure it's on YouTube. Just look

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 1>up vals va ls tres triste and it will. It'll

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 1>get to you. It's very sad and you should plug

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 1>your favorite thing ever, which is Garfield without Garfield. Oh yeah,

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:41.600
<v Speaker 1>that's great. Yeah, which in that case, it was John

0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:44.960
<v Speaker 1>who was just crazy and hallucinating right, Yeah, you could

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 1>make a pretty good case that John was out of

0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 1>his mind when you take Garfield out any given strip

0:29:51.560 --> 0:29:55.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's just John like, yeah, shouting out loud, like

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:57.880
<v Speaker 1>he's just like like putting his head down on the counter.

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Good stuff. Yeah, I forgot it about that. You want

0:30:01.680 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 1>to take a break, Yeah, we'll take a break and

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:06.720
<v Speaker 1>go through another couple of quickies and then the big Daddy.

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 1>All right, did you see this Breaking Bad one? Yeah?

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:40.440
<v Speaker 1>This one has spoilers for Breaking Bad and a little

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 1>bit of The Walking Dead, So if you haven't seen that,

0:30:42.560 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 1>tune out. But there is a theory that's actually, I

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 1>think kind of cool because I love both shows Breaking

0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Bad and Walking Dead, that the blue meth from Breaking

0:30:54.400 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Bad is what caused the zombie outbreak in the Walking Dead. Yeah,

0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 1>and I'm bad. Yeah, but I mean it seems like

0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 1>they're totally unconnected until you start digging in there. That's right.

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 1>When you look at season one, the character of Glenn

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Hey shout out to Stephen Young, he's a listener. Stuff

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 1>you should know. Yeah what up dog? Hopefully still is

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:25.280
<v Speaker 1>not anymore. He drives a Red Dodge Challenger in that

0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:30.200
<v Speaker 1>first season, which looks kind of like Walter White's car

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:33.640
<v Speaker 1>that he eventually ends up with, and then in Breaking Bad,

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:37.080
<v Speaker 1>when Walter White returns that dodge, he takes it back

0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:41.120
<v Speaker 1>and the managers. The dealership's general manager is named Glenn

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:46.720
<v Speaker 1>little Thin. The best one is it comes in season

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 1>two if you ask me, yeah, I agree, you take it, buddy,

0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Because why you didn't watch either one of these shows? No? No,

0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:55.240
<v Speaker 1>I did. Okay, I saw all Breaking Bad and I've

0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:59.040
<v Speaker 1>seen I can't remember how far I've seemed. Pretty far

0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:02.400
<v Speaker 1>into Walking Dead. I'm behind him Walking Dead by like

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 1>one season. Oh I need to go back catch up. Yeah, anyway,

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:13.640
<v Speaker 1>season two, Darryl played by Norman Ritas, is um trying

0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:18.200
<v Speaker 1>to take the fever down on tea dog. There's another character, right,

0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:24.000
<v Speaker 1>why's it funny saying dog? So his brother Merle is

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 1>m he is like this bag of drugs basically, so

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 1>he looks through the bag see if there's anything that

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:32.040
<v Speaker 1>can help bring the fever down. And there is that

0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:37.080
<v Speaker 1>blue crystal meth from Breaking Bath in his bag. So

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 1>that's a good little hint, yep. And then before the

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:46.720
<v Speaker 1>zombie Apocalypse, Merle, his brother, was actually a drug dealer

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:51.520
<v Speaker 1>and he described in one episode, his supplier was quote

0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 1>a jankie little white guy who threatened him with a

0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:58.320
<v Speaker 1>handgun and said, I'm gonna kill you. B word. Yeah,

0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 1>and that very much sounds like Jesse Pinkman. Yeah. The

0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:04.320
<v Speaker 1>only way it could have gotten it across more is

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:08.880
<v Speaker 1>if he'd mentioned fat stacks or something, right, that would

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 1>have been like super on the nose though. So that's

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:15.959
<v Speaker 1>that's a pretty fun theory. It is obviously meth equals

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 1>death everybody, that's right, especially Blue. Well. The one thing

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:20.840
<v Speaker 1>I didn't get was like, what are like all those

0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 1>people on meth? But then I thought, no, maybe just

0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 1>a certain amount. And then they infected other people with

0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:32.520
<v Speaker 1>their zombie juice. Yeah, okay, I got one. All right.

0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:35.080
<v Speaker 1>This is this is an old one, but I think

0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:38.600
<v Speaker 1>it's a good one. The Flintstones and the jet Sins

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 1>take place at the exact same time. It's a good one.

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 1>That the Flintstones are not prehistoric, they're actually set in

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 1>a post apocalyptic future. And you'd say that doesn't make

0:33:52.200 --> 0:33:55.680
<v Speaker 1>any sense, does it. The author, I think this came

0:33:55.760 --> 0:34:00.320
<v Speaker 1>from mental floss points out why would some cave people

0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 1>create record players with whatever they had on hand? No

0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:07.200
<v Speaker 1>one in prehistoric times knew what a record player was,

0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:11.000
<v Speaker 1>But if you were living in the post apocalyptic times,

0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:13.960
<v Speaker 1>you would want to be able to listen to records

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:16.640
<v Speaker 1>because they'd already been invented. Yeah, so you would figure

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 1>out how to make a bird put its beak on

0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:22.440
<v Speaker 1>a record and use that instead. Why do they celebrate

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Christmas in prehistoric times? Good question. Why Why does the

0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 1>music in the flint Stones any popular music has always

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:35.280
<v Speaker 1>like fifties, like English British invasion type of I forgot

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:40.360
<v Speaker 1>about that, twitch twitch Yeah. Why do they have a

0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:44.800
<v Speaker 1>banking system? Yeah? Set up. Yeah, that's fairly complex, it is.

0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Why are these animals talking? Well, that's just weird. Yeah,

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you can like place that at

0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 1>the feet of George Jetson the The thing about the Jetsons, though,

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:59.120
<v Speaker 1>is supposedly they are living up in It's not cloud

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:03.440
<v Speaker 1>City or orbit City, which is supposedly built in the

0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:07.359
<v Speaker 1>clouds above a small line, which is where the Flintstones

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:10.320
<v Speaker 1>live below the small line, and allegedly the thing that

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 1>divides them really more than anything is income. Yeah, that

0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:17.480
<v Speaker 1>the Jetsons are wealthy and part of the ones that

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:19.960
<v Speaker 1>can survive and live up in the clean air. The

0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Flintstones are a part that have to scrape by with

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 1>whatever they can find back here on Earth. Well, and

0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:29.680
<v Speaker 1>that George and Fred mirror one another, and that Fred

0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:33.400
<v Speaker 1>labors at this I mean, I don't even know what

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:36.160
<v Speaker 1>you call that, like a quarry, a quarry, yeah, with

0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:40.279
<v Speaker 1>mister sleet, whereas George works at spacely rockets and it

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 1>sess here in this article works for a total of

0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:45.600
<v Speaker 1>about nine hours a week. And then robots and computers

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:49.280
<v Speaker 1>handle everything else that's supposedly how our life is supposed

0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:51.839
<v Speaker 1>to be right now, but we're not doing it right.

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh really yeah, and now robots are just stealing everyone's job,

0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:58.360
<v Speaker 1>but we don't have anything to show for it except

0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:04.239
<v Speaker 1>for joblessness, but the bad kind. Right. There was a

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:07.400
<v Speaker 1>movie called The Jetsons Meet the flint Stones, And in

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:12.279
<v Speaker 1>that very movie, George Jetson visits the past and has

0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 1>a little kind of a throwaway comment when he sees

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:18.160
<v Speaker 1>green grass, and he says that it's something he remembers

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:22.000
<v Speaker 1>from ancient history. Right, so that one kind of undermines

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 1>the whole idea. Oh, I don't know, well, if he's

0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:30.000
<v Speaker 1>saying that he from ancient history, Oh, I see that part. Yeah,

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:32.240
<v Speaker 1>like there was an apocalypse and there is no grass.

0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:35.400
<v Speaker 1>But if he visits the past, I don't know. This

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:37.640
<v Speaker 1>is falling apart. Yeah, where we talk about it. It

0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 1>undermines that one. Remember the Great Kazoo? What was up

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:45.279
<v Speaker 1>with that guy? Yeah, well this is where stuff you

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 1>should know is devolved too. Remember the Great Kazoo? What

0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:54.840
<v Speaker 1>was up with that guy? The whole Christmas thing is

0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:57.600
<v Speaker 1>weird to me that the flint Stones would celebrate Christmas

0:36:57.920 --> 0:37:00.640
<v Speaker 1>when they were clearly supposedly before the birth of Christ

0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:04.440
<v Speaker 1>as being in prehistoric times. Right, No, it doesn't make

0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:07.880
<v Speaker 1>any sense. There's a lot of stuff the Flintstones didn't

0:37:07.880 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 1>make sense about. How about the Scooby Doo win I

0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:16.319
<v Speaker 1>thought this was pretty great, Yeah, and not Scooby Doo. See,

0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:18.279
<v Speaker 1>this is the difference between a good fan theory and

0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 1>a bad one. Bad one. Scooby and Shaggy are always

0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 1>stoned because look, they're bumbling, and they're always hungry for

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Scooby snacks, for Scooby snacks. Bad fan theory, good fan theory.

0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:36.120
<v Speaker 1>Scooby Doo takes place after the world economy has shattered, right,

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:40.399
<v Speaker 1>it's great. Yeah, and there's a lot to it right. Yeah,

0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:43.920
<v Speaker 1>So the idea is that these guys are driving around

0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:46.239
<v Speaker 1>and if you really look at the places that they visit,

0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:51.160
<v Speaker 1>everything's abandoned and run down, always like abandoned amusement park,

0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 1>abandoned ski resort, abandoned everything. And not only are these

0:37:56.719 --> 0:38:02.000
<v Speaker 1>places abandoned, they're they're populated did by people who are

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:06.080
<v Speaker 1>squatting basically in these abandoned places. They live in the

0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:10.960
<v Speaker 1>abandoned place, and the bad guys are yeah, and they

0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 1>have no means to support themselves other than by carrying

0:38:15.719 --> 0:38:20.080
<v Speaker 1>out these weird veiled crimes that they try to dress

0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:24.680
<v Speaker 1>up as something other world they which suggests that their geniuses. Right,

0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:30.839
<v Speaker 1>so very very smart people living in squalor and are jobless. Yeah,

0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:35.640
<v Speaker 1>was this cracked? Yeah? So it says that out of

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:38.719
<v Speaker 1>the twenty seven villains in the original Scooby Doo Where

0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 1>Are You Run, twenty three of the twenty seven are

0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:46.919
<v Speaker 1>motivated by monetary gain via theft, smuggling or land speculation.

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:52.200
<v Speaker 1>And like you said, if these people are geniuses, why

0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:54.759
<v Speaker 1>are they you know, like I'm going to squat in

0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:57.719
<v Speaker 1>this abandoned mansion so I can gain ownership of it. Right,

0:38:57.880 --> 0:38:59.840
<v Speaker 1>It's all very strange. Yeah, and they point out that

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:05.719
<v Speaker 1>the talents that these people have are indicate a very

0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 1>wide variety of specific schooling. Right, Yeah, two were PhDs,

0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 1>two or three were PhDs. Two were lawyers, one had

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:19.800
<v Speaker 1>an ability to produce forged paintings, one could repair boats,

0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 1>one was a magician, it's a stunt man. So these

0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:28.400
<v Speaker 1>are highly skilled, highly specialized professions that these people are

0:39:28.520 --> 0:39:32.239
<v Speaker 1>trained in or capable of doing. But yet they're out

0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:36.240
<v Speaker 1>of work and they're pulling off these very elaborate schemes

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:39.319
<v Speaker 1>rather than just having a job in their profession. Yeah,

0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:41.759
<v Speaker 1>and even Scooby Doo, like when they go into a

0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:45.080
<v Speaker 1>nice vacation spots, it's run down and abandoned. It's like

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Soviet level vacation spot. Yeah, pretty much. So I thought

0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:53.080
<v Speaker 1>this was a great one. That was good. At the

0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:55.960
<v Speaker 1>very least they had some reason to not just have

0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:58.719
<v Speaker 1>it be like normal society that they were living in,

0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:01.200
<v Speaker 1>and like they would you know, like when you go

0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 1>back and look at them, they were weird. Yeah, weird

0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:08.160
<v Speaker 1>settings for shows really sparsely populated because it's anime, there's

0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:10.080
<v Speaker 1>no reason to do that. Yeah, I could see if

0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 1>you were like, oh wait, not much of a budget,

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:14.480
<v Speaker 1>so we got to go shoot at this abandoned amusement park.

0:40:14.880 --> 0:40:18.080
<v Speaker 1>But they, like if they are at a restaurant, they're

0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:22.239
<v Speaker 1>almost invariably the only people there. Have you ever noticed that? Yeah,

0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:25.120
<v Speaker 1>it's like a really empty series. It's cool. It makes

0:40:25.120 --> 0:40:27.880
<v Speaker 1>it a little more haunting. I like it. Are you

0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:30.080
<v Speaker 1>ready for the last one? All right? I think we've

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:33.279
<v Speaker 1>waited well long enough. This one is based on the

0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:40.960
<v Speaker 1>television hospital procedural drama Saint Elsewhere, Right, which Saint Elsewhere

0:40:41.480 --> 0:40:43.200
<v Speaker 1>If you watched it, or even if you didn't and

0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:45.640
<v Speaker 1>you just are a fan of like famous endings of

0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:48.960
<v Speaker 1>TV series, Saint Elsewhere was very famous for its ending

0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:52.320
<v Speaker 1>in that also famous for having a bunch of like

0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:56.439
<v Speaker 1>big stars earlier in their careers. Yeah, Howie Mandel, Denzel, Yeah,

0:40:57.320 --> 0:41:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Ed Begley, Yeah, begs a lot of other people. But

0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:05.160
<v Speaker 1>it very famously ended with um. At the very end,

0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:07.919
<v Speaker 1>it showed a shot at the hospital with a snow

0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 1>falling and then you pull back and you realize that

0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:16.520
<v Speaker 1>that was actually a snow globe held by a boy, right,

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:19.319
<v Speaker 1>and it's kind of mind blowing. It's like, oh my god, right,

0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:24.440
<v Speaker 1>because again, this is real. If you watched er or anything, scrubs,

0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:28.600
<v Speaker 1>what any normal show about hospital life? Yeah, and it's

0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:31.799
<v Speaker 1>about hospital life. That's what Saint Elsewhere was about. Yeah,

0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:34.040
<v Speaker 1>you know it was weird and quirky, but it was

0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:37.240
<v Speaker 1>it was about a hospital. So the idea of drama

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:42.279
<v Speaker 1>that the last scene of I think six seasons, yes,

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:45.200
<v Speaker 1>six years, one hundred and thirty seven episodes about a

0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:48.400
<v Speaker 1>life at a hospital and the characters that inhabited and

0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 1>worked at this hospital. Yeah, the hospitals in a snow globe.

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:55.560
<v Speaker 1>This is totally out of left field, right, Yeah, make

0:41:55.640 --> 0:41:59.600
<v Speaker 1>it even weirder. In walks who had up to this

0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:06.239
<v Speaker 1>point been the director of surgery. I think Donald Westfall,

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:09.680
<v Speaker 1>he's the medical director of Saint Elsewhere. Yeah, he walks in.

0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:13.160
<v Speaker 1>He's clearly not a doctor. He's dressed, he's not dressed

0:42:13.200 --> 0:42:15.080
<v Speaker 1>like one. He's like a construction guy. Yeah. The way

0:42:15.080 --> 0:42:17.480
<v Speaker 1>he's talking, he's super like blue collar. All of a sudden,

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:20.880
<v Speaker 1>and he walks into the room where the boy holding

0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:23.040
<v Speaker 1>the snow globe, whose name we will find out is

0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:28.160
<v Speaker 1>Tommy Westfall. He is Donald Westfall's son in the series

0:42:28.160 --> 0:42:30.040
<v Speaker 1>sant Elsewhere. Yeah, he had been on the show, but

0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:33.400
<v Speaker 1>he was never like a big character, and he had autism,

0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:37.280
<v Speaker 1>and in walks Donald Westfall, who's now a construction worker,

0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:39.680
<v Speaker 1>and says he's talking to his own father. He's like,

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:41.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't get it, Pops. He just sits around and

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:43.920
<v Speaker 1>looks at that snow globe all day. I wonder what

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:49.239
<v Speaker 1>he's thinking in his head, which suggests pretty strongly. Yet

0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:53.680
<v Speaker 1>everything about Saint Elsewhere all one hundred and thirty seven

0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:58.320
<v Speaker 1>episodes took place in the mind of Tommy Westfall, this

0:42:58.520 --> 0:43:01.279
<v Speaker 1>boy with autism, who was sitting there staring at his

0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:04.239
<v Speaker 1>snow globe. Yeah, I mean, in fact, it's it's really

0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:06.279
<v Speaker 1>it was even more on the nose than that. He

0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 1>actually says, I don't understand this autism thing, Bob. He's

0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:11.960
<v Speaker 1>my son. I talked to him. I don't even know

0:43:12.000 --> 0:43:14.440
<v Speaker 1>if he can hear me. He sits there all day long,

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:17.560
<v Speaker 1>in his own world, staring at that toy. What's he

0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 1>thinking about? Right? Like, they didn't need to say all that.

0:43:21.200 --> 0:43:24.240
<v Speaker 1>They should have just to me, showed that and showed

0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:27.120
<v Speaker 1>him coming in as a construction guy and maybe just

0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:30.239
<v Speaker 1>looked longingly at the sun. But he's kind of like,

0:43:31.000 --> 0:43:37.480
<v Speaker 1>you get it. Everyone so America is sitting there like what. Yeah.

0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:40.880
<v Speaker 1>At the time, this is what nineteen eighty eight, I

0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:43.880
<v Speaker 1>think when it went off, all of America was just like,

0:43:44.080 --> 0:43:47.719
<v Speaker 1>what just happened? That's really weird. But then in two

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:51.359
<v Speaker 1>thousand and two it started to get even weirder, right, yeah,

0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:55.279
<v Speaker 1>because there's a TV writer named Dwayne McDuffie, and he

0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:58.960
<v Speaker 1>wrote a post called six Degrees of Saying Elsewhere and

0:43:59.080 --> 0:44:03.240
<v Speaker 1>he points out, wait, everybody, if all of Saint Elsewhere

0:44:03.239 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 1>it took place just in Tommy Westfall's mind, then that

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:10.840
<v Speaker 1>means that there's a significant amount of NBC shows that

0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:15.480
<v Speaker 1>also are just in Tommy Westfall's mind. It's come to

0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:18.560
<v Speaker 1>be called the Tommy Westfall hypothesis or the Tommy Westfall

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:24.480
<v Speaker 1>universe multiverse. Okay, Yeah, and it just spreads and spreads

0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:27.240
<v Speaker 1>and spreads. And there's a really good this Paste article

0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:30.400
<v Speaker 1>called Tommy's World, The TV Legacy of Saint Elsewhere's Tommy

0:44:30.440 --> 0:44:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Westfall Universe is pretty much the definitive outside post on it. Yeah,

0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:40.560
<v Speaker 1>and it lays out a pretty good thread of how

0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 1>shows are connected. And since they're connected, that means that

0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:48.080
<v Speaker 1>they're all taking place in the mind of this boy

0:44:48.160 --> 0:44:51.600
<v Speaker 1>with autism, Tommy Westfall. Right, and it goes a little

0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:56.480
<v Speaker 1>something like this. Some of the doctors from Saint Elsewhere

0:44:56.520 --> 0:44:59.080
<v Speaker 1>went to Cheers one time. Okay, so that means Cheers

0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:03.359
<v Speaker 1>is in Tommy westfall mine. Uh. Frasier was a spin

0:45:03.400 --> 0:45:06.839
<v Speaker 1>off of Cheers. Check. That means Frasier isn't real. Yeah,

0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:08.239
<v Speaker 1>you're getting this. We don't need to say that after

0:45:08.320 --> 0:45:10.400
<v Speaker 1>each one, due I think he early drives the point home.

0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:15.279
<v Speaker 1>The John Larocquette show, um, which was actually pretty good.

0:45:15.840 --> 0:45:19.320
<v Speaker 1>John Larrictt's great and that show was very underrated, but

0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:22.880
<v Speaker 1>the lead character played by John laraic Kett was John Hemingway.

0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:27.520
<v Speaker 1>He called in one time on Frasier's talk show. Yeah,

0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:30.600
<v Speaker 1>on Frasier he was one of the collins as that character. Right.

0:45:31.600 --> 0:45:36.799
<v Speaker 1>So now John lara Keett's universe is in Tommy Westfall's mine.

0:45:37.080 --> 0:45:41.640
<v Speaker 1>That's right. So on the John Larricquette show itself, they

0:45:41.760 --> 0:45:48.040
<v Speaker 1>mentioned Yo Yo Dine as a company, a tech company, right, Yeah.

0:45:48.160 --> 0:45:52.840
<v Speaker 1>And in Star Trek, Yo Yo Dine made technology used

0:45:53.440 --> 0:45:58.839
<v Speaker 1>by the Enterprise crew Yo Yo Dine, right, right, Yoyodyne.

0:45:58.960 --> 0:46:03.040
<v Speaker 1>So that means Star Trek is in Tommy Westfall's mind.

0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:06.680
<v Speaker 1>That's right. Yo Yo Dine was also appears again in Angel,

0:46:06.760 --> 0:46:10.840
<v Speaker 1>the TV's Joss Whedon's Angel. It was part of the

0:46:11.320 --> 0:46:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I think he was a client of the law firm

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Wolframan Heart right Angel, Okay, and then Wolfreman Heart was

0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:26.359
<v Speaker 1>representation to another tech company called whalan Utani which made

0:46:26.920 --> 0:46:30.640
<v Speaker 1>tech on the TV show Firefly. Things are getting deep now, right,

0:46:30.719 --> 0:46:33.839
<v Speaker 1>So now Firefly is in Tommy Westfall's mind as well?

0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Then whyland Utani ship was in a spaceship graveyard on

0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:44.759
<v Speaker 1>the series in Britain Red Dwarf Right, and then Bring

0:46:44.800 --> 0:46:48.000
<v Speaker 1>it Home and then the Tartists is in the hangar

0:46:48.080 --> 0:46:52.200
<v Speaker 1>bay of the ship Red Dwarf on the show. So

0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:58.239
<v Speaker 1>that means that Firefly, Red Dwarf, and then Doctor Who

0:46:59.160 --> 0:47:03.120
<v Speaker 1>are all in the mind of Tommy Westfall because all

0:47:03.200 --> 0:47:07.759
<v Speaker 1>of them are connected back to Saint Elsewhere. And as

0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:10.880
<v Speaker 1>the author of this paced article points out, this is

0:47:11.280 --> 0:47:15.279
<v Speaker 1>a normal thread. Yeah, it spread to something like more

0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:19.560
<v Speaker 1>than four hundred TV shows being implicated as being in

0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:22.759
<v Speaker 1>the imagination of Tommy Westfall. Yeah. I think the last

0:47:22.880 --> 0:47:25.879
<v Speaker 1>count I saw was four hundred and nineteen shows. It's

0:47:25.920 --> 0:47:29.560
<v Speaker 1>so amazing, which you know, if they just get one more,

0:47:29.719 --> 0:47:32.120
<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden it's a weed theory, right, yeah,

0:47:32.200 --> 0:47:35.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, pretty great. Tell him about John Munch though,

0:47:35.840 --> 0:47:39.600
<v Speaker 1>he's like the all star character from Tommy Westfall universe,

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:42.279
<v Speaker 1>all right. That was Belzer's character on Homicide Life on

0:47:42.320 --> 0:47:45.719
<v Speaker 1>the Street, right, and that was apparently a spinoff from

0:47:45.760 --> 0:47:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Saint Elsewhere. It was related to it somehow, Yeah, I

0:47:48.160 --> 0:47:51.480
<v Speaker 1>think so officially related. But then Munch was on a

0:47:51.520 --> 0:47:53.960
<v Speaker 1>bunch of different shows. Yeah, like his character, not just

0:47:54.040 --> 0:47:56.600
<v Speaker 1>the guy who played him. Yeah, but he got He

0:47:56.719 --> 0:47:59.399
<v Speaker 1>just popped up in different shows all over the place,

0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:01.800
<v Speaker 1>not even a necessarily just on NBC. Oh yeah. He

0:48:01.880 --> 0:48:04.799
<v Speaker 1>was on X Files and that was Fox, wasn't it. Yeah? Uh,

0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Law and Order, The Wire was on the Wire, Yeah,

0:48:08.560 --> 0:48:12.719
<v Speaker 1>and he was on thirty Rock yea. So Munch is

0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:15.440
<v Speaker 1>just sitting there since he was already connected to Saint Elsewhere,

0:48:15.680 --> 0:48:18.360
<v Speaker 1>any show he pops up on, he's obviously in the

0:48:18.440 --> 0:48:21.840
<v Speaker 1>same universe as Saint Elsewhere, which again is in Tommy

0:48:21.920 --> 0:48:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Westfall's mine. So most of the television in the United

0:48:25.960 --> 0:48:30.080
<v Speaker 1>States doesn't exist, come, you know, it doesn't exist except

0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:33.640
<v Speaker 1>in the mind of a boy with autism who likes

0:48:33.719 --> 0:48:36.960
<v Speaker 1>his snow globe. Back in nineteen eighty eight. I wonder

0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:40.760
<v Speaker 1>how much of that was I mean, not pre planned,

0:48:40.880 --> 0:48:45.160
<v Speaker 1>but zero from what I understand. Well, they clearly meant

0:48:45.200 --> 0:48:47.200
<v Speaker 1>to show though that Saint Elsewhere was a figment of

0:48:47.280 --> 0:48:50.040
<v Speaker 1>his imagination, right, But I don't think they even stopped

0:48:50.080 --> 0:48:55.239
<v Speaker 1>and thought, oh well, thats too right, you know. Wow. Well,

0:48:55.239 --> 0:48:57.480
<v Speaker 1>and then most of that stuff came after Saint Elsewhere too,

0:48:57.600 --> 0:49:00.640
<v Speaker 1>So I wonder then if someone kind of ran with it,

0:49:00.800 --> 0:49:03.880
<v Speaker 1>like if there's this inside Cabal and Hollywood and the

0:49:04.080 --> 0:49:07.160
<v Speaker 1>w GA where people are trying to like I'm sure

0:49:07.160 --> 0:49:09.360
<v Speaker 1>try these things together, so it's like putting a Wilhelm

0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:18.279
<v Speaker 1>scream in yeah, which we did incorrectly, very tried, tried, Jerry, Well,

0:49:18.520 --> 0:49:21.360
<v Speaker 1>yeah that was that was just that was in sys

0:49:21.440 --> 0:49:26.359
<v Speaker 1>k jam yep uh you got anything else, no, sir. Well,

0:49:26.440 --> 0:49:28.640
<v Speaker 1>if you want to know more about TV fan theories,

0:49:28.680 --> 0:49:31.440
<v Speaker 1>you can go find them on the internets or send

0:49:31.520 --> 0:49:33.200
<v Speaker 1>one in. Though, if you have one that we didn't

0:49:33.200 --> 0:49:36.120
<v Speaker 1>talk about, yeah, a good one though we defined what

0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:39.239
<v Speaker 1>a fan theory is ak so good one yeah, and

0:49:39.360 --> 0:49:44.200
<v Speaker 1>nothing from Lost Yeah, yeah, just don't bother if you

0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:46.960
<v Speaker 1>already said all that stuff. So since I said I

0:49:46.960 --> 0:49:49.040
<v Speaker 1>already said all that stuff. It's time for listener mail.

0:49:51.760 --> 0:49:54.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call this hidden Whiskey. Remember our live show

0:49:54.880 --> 0:49:58.080
<v Speaker 1>in Vancouver we talked about the Canadian Club had a

0:49:58.200 --> 0:50:00.840
<v Speaker 1>very special promo in the eighties where they hit cases

0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:04.000
<v Speaker 1>of whiskey all over the world like a big scavenger hunt,

0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:09.080
<v Speaker 1>and not all of that whiskey was found. Remember that? Yeah?

0:50:09.160 --> 0:50:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I remember. So. This guy, Chris Ortloff, writes in about that.

0:50:13.600 --> 0:50:16.400
<v Speaker 1>He said one of them was hidden in Lake Placid,

0:50:16.400 --> 0:50:18.480
<v Speaker 1>New York, a year before the nineteen eighty Olympics, and

0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:22.279
<v Speaker 1>supposedly was never found. And a few years ago, more

0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:25.960
<v Speaker 1>than three decades later, my mother picked up the trail

0:50:26.480 --> 0:50:29.000
<v Speaker 1>when she discovered that it was possibly still out there.

0:50:29.960 --> 0:50:33.120
<v Speaker 1>I love it. This guy's mom was like, what free whiskey?

0:50:33.920 --> 0:50:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I think she was just like, sounds like an adventure.

0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:39.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm just a kidding, you know. Maybe she

0:50:39.239 --> 0:50:43.920
<v Speaker 1>wanted the free whiskey too. A fan of cryptic crossword puzzles,

0:50:43.920 --> 0:50:46.520
<v Speaker 1>word games, and snowshoeing, the allure was too much for

0:50:46.600 --> 0:50:48.319
<v Speaker 1>her to pass up. Well there you have it. Yeah,

0:50:48.400 --> 0:50:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Plus she really liked whiskey. She tracked down a man

0:50:51.280 --> 0:50:53.239
<v Speaker 1>in Connecticut who had previously searched for it, spoke with

0:50:53.320 --> 0:50:56.279
<v Speaker 1>customer service at Canadian Club even and with a couple

0:50:56.320 --> 0:50:59.000
<v Speaker 1>of other leads. She spent months turning over the clues,

0:50:59.120 --> 0:51:02.080
<v Speaker 1>checking current in historical maps, and hiking through the woods

0:51:02.080 --> 0:51:05.439
<v Speaker 1>and fields around Lake Placid. I love this guy's mom. Yeah.

0:51:06.800 --> 0:51:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I sat down with her a few times with my

0:51:08.680 --> 0:51:11.480
<v Speaker 1>thinking cap on in hopes of unraveling the mystery, as

0:51:11.520 --> 0:51:13.759
<v Speaker 1>did many of her friends and relatives. We have lots

0:51:13.800 --> 0:51:16.480
<v Speaker 1>of research and speculation amassed as a result, and I

0:51:16.600 --> 0:51:18.200
<v Speaker 1>was really kind of nervous reading this. I was like,

0:51:18.360 --> 0:51:21.359
<v Speaker 1>she found it right, she didn't find it. Sadly, after

0:51:21.440 --> 0:51:23.239
<v Speaker 1>all the effort and intrigue, we still have no idea

0:51:23.320 --> 0:51:25.279
<v Speaker 1>where it is. Maybe some kids took it years ago,

0:51:25.680 --> 0:51:27.880
<v Speaker 1>could be completely buried by leaves and twigs by now,

0:51:28.719 --> 0:51:30.399
<v Speaker 1>or maybe it's still waiting to be found and someone

0:51:30.400 --> 0:51:32.600
<v Speaker 1>else can crack the case, so to speak. Blame it

0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:36.000
<v Speaker 1>on leaves and twigs. If you were any listeners want

0:51:36.000 --> 0:51:38.640
<v Speaker 1>a chance of some buy now vintage Canadian whiskey, though

0:51:39.080 --> 0:51:41.320
<v Speaker 1>for the very least and enriching walk through the Christine,

0:51:41.600 --> 0:51:45.560
<v Speaker 1>Northern New York wilderness. The clues, as originally printed in

0:51:45.680 --> 0:51:48.919
<v Speaker 1>the cc AD or as follows, and then he gave

0:51:48.960 --> 0:51:50.560
<v Speaker 1>them to me, so you can just look that up

0:51:50.600 --> 0:51:56.279
<v Speaker 1>in the internet. They're out there. It's really well, I

0:51:56.320 --> 0:51:59.040
<v Speaker 1>mean I can't read them all. It's get out your

0:51:59.120 --> 0:52:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Dakota pins, happy hunting, and do share one with me

0:52:02.840 --> 0:52:06.080
<v Speaker 1>if you find it. That is from Chris Ortloff. Thanks Ortloff.

0:52:06.120 --> 0:52:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Will appreciate that you have the last name of a

0:52:08.760 --> 0:52:11.720
<v Speaker 1>person who's only called by their last name, and missus

0:52:11.880 --> 0:52:14.359
<v Speaker 1>Ortloff for at the very least your mom. I don't

0:52:14.360 --> 0:52:18.000
<v Speaker 1>know if that's her name, Madame, Madame Ortlof, I like that.

0:52:18.160 --> 0:52:22.640
<v Speaker 1>It's a great explorer and adventure there. That's how she

0:52:23.080 --> 0:52:26.040
<v Speaker 1>frit Shelf forever be known in Yeah, well, thanks Ortloff

0:52:26.120 --> 0:52:28.960
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0:52:29.000 --> 0:52:31.120
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0:52:31.160 --> 0:52:32.920
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0:52:33.000 --> 0:52:36.200
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