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Speaker 1: chosen our awesome episode on Not So Fan Theories. It's

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Speaker 1: a straight ahead, easy, breezy, beautiful episode and I hope

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Speaker 1: you enjoy it tremendously. Let's go Welcome to Stuff you

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Speaker 1: Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio. Hey, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. I almost forgot who I

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Speaker 1: was for a second. There's Charles w Chuck Bryant. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's Jerry or is she really there? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know anymore, because it just occurred to me.

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Speaker 1: We're doing a show on TV show Fan Theories, and

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Speaker 1: we have our own little fan theory here that Jerry

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Speaker 1: doesn't exist. Yeah, that's true. That's a fan theory which

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Speaker 1: is sort of a common thread. And a lot of

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Speaker 1: you know, or they didn't exist to begin with, right,

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Speaker 1: And so we've heard from people for years to think

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Speaker 1: that Jerry's made up. I love it, yes, because they're right.

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Speaker 1: We're we're not saying no, actually, Jerry's totally real anymore.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at it right now. So I was going

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Speaker 1: through the internet looking for think pieces, essays on why

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Speaker 1: people come up with fan theories or what about fan

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Speaker 1: theories make them, you know, make shows better. Couldn't find anything. No,

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Speaker 1: I think the answer is obvious. I think that's why

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Speaker 1: I couldn't find anything, too. People just have time on

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Speaker 1: their hands. That's not what I was gonna set an say.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say that it takes something that's already

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Speaker 1: It takes something familiar and you can go back and

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Speaker 1: rewatch it through different lens. Now. Yeah, and you have

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Speaker 1: time on your hands, right, It's definitely not something that

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Speaker 1: super busy people do, you know. No, And then I

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Speaker 1: also was like, maybe I should just calm down. We

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Speaker 1: don't have to explain everything. We can just have fun

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Speaker 1: sharing fan theories. That's what we're gonna do. It's like

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Speaker 1: a summer break one. Yeah, this feels like one of those.

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Speaker 1: I'm we're both drunk, sure, pretty drunk, just kidding kids

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Speaker 1: out there, We're just joking. Should we just get right

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Speaker 1: into these Yes, some of these are going to be shorter,

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Speaker 1: just gonna kind of jump around, right, Should we start

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Speaker 1: with the granddaddy or end with the granddaddy? Well, it's

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Speaker 1: the granddaddy to you, um, say by the wall? No,

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Speaker 1: do you like that one though? Yeah? And I thought

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Speaker 1: with say by the bell. I don't know why. I

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Speaker 1: know what you're saying. We'll start with say by the bell.

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Speaker 1: We'll finish with one that I know you're okay, cool,

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Speaker 1: that's very um click baby, I know, but so one

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Speaker 1: that is really hard to do when it comes up

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Speaker 1: when it comes to fan theories, we should say, I

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Speaker 1: guess we should define A fan theory is basically, it's

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Speaker 1: where somebody who likes a show says, hey, you know

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Speaker 1: all this, it's actually this is what's going on. Almost

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Speaker 1: all the time, it's just somebody's idea. But the part

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Speaker 1: of the backbone of a fan theory is that it

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Speaker 1: has to hold up in just about every circumstance. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I'll get one out of the way quickly. Is

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Speaker 1: a bad example. Okay, Because to me, a bad fan

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Speaker 1: theory is a murder. She wrote, she was really a

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Speaker 1: serial killer because you know, you never found out what

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Speaker 1: too easy. It's not like to me, a good fan

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Speaker 1: look at this, and what about this? Okay, about this,

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Speaker 1: some schmo saying something somewhere. Yeah, but murder, she wrote,

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Speaker 1: And then secondly, even when she travels, she stumbles upon

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Speaker 1: It's not like she's a detective. Like you can't say it. Boy,

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Speaker 1: She just happens to be sucked into it, all right,

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Speaker 1: well sixty five year old person. It's even better now.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, yeah, you're rewatching it. Oh yeah, it's on

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Speaker 1: Netflix and I think prime wow. Oh yeah, man, it's good.

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Speaker 1: Check it out. And I'm not saying, like, oh, murder,

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Speaker 1: she wrote for years and years now, pal, Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: don't have a beard. No, but hold on, I think

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Speaker 1: I want to extend this for a second. You raise

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Speaker 1: She wrote with that same point that a fan theory

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Speaker 1: has to have meat on its bones. Yes, it can't

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Speaker 1: be an offhanded thing. It's prove what you just said.

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Speaker 1: Prove why Jessica Fletcher is a serial killer? Well that's

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Speaker 1: that they there's a couple of them. It's a little thin, granted, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but there's something to back it up, which makes it

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Speaker 1: a decent fan theory. Not the best, but a decent one.

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Speaker 1: The other thing is it's really difficult to pinpoint the

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Speaker 1: origin of fan theories. Oh yeah, like who did this first? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: who came up with this idea? What loser? Well, I've

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Speaker 1: got one for you. So we were going to talk

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Speaker 1: A writer on the website Cracked Cracks website, a writer

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Speaker 1: and um, big shout out to Cracked in Mental Floss

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Speaker 1: all right. So at long last, Save by the Bell

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Speaker 1: So here's the deal. Pre saved by the Bell. This

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Speaker 1: was it called Good Morning Miss Bliss? Yes, and it

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Speaker 1: That was how like he went through life. And also

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Speaker 1: So the fan theory is that Saved by the Bell

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Speaker 1: in India, back in Indiana at John Kennedy Junior High,

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Speaker 1: let you forget it. Yeah, he's eighty two. Hey, Jamie Farr,

420
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 1: godspeedzer Um what else we got? So? Um? This one

421
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: is one of my favorites. This good one. Garfield, Oh yeah,

422
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 1: is dying alone in an abandoned house. Yeah, and everything

423
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 1: that you've seen in all except I believe six of

424
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 1: the Garfield strips, all of them that have been going

425
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: on since nineteen seventy seven, is the hallucination of a dying,

426
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 1: starving cat in an abandoned house. Yeah. I was way

427
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 1: into Garfield. Yeah, Garfield was great, but the books Garfield

428
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: and bloom County were my two biggies. I was never

429
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: into bloom County. Oh man, I loved it. I did

430
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: love Garfield, though, I mean it was a little bloom

431
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 1: County is a little more advanced, I think, sure, and

432
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: it's humor, which I still got. But Garfield was like

433
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: kind of perfect for ten year Chuck. It was perfect.

434
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 1: So what you're talking about is, in October of nineteen

435
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 1: eighty nine, Jim Davis, the creative Garfield, said, you know

436
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna put out six strips

437
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 1: in a row that are not funny. No, they're actually

438
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: kind of unsightling. Yeah, very bleak. And if you go

439
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 1: and look at these strips you can find them online.

440
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 1: Obviously it's Garfield alone in an abandoned house and it's

441
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 1: really heavy. Yeah. Garfield wakes up in the first strip

442
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: and no one's around and he's starting to get a

443
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: little panicked, and then it just kind of continues on

444
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: and his panic continues to build over the course of

445
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: this six strips, and finally in the last one, I believe,

446
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: he wakes up and John and Odie are there and

447
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: everything's back to normally so happy. Yeah, but leading up

448
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: to that point in strip like three four to five,

449
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: it's it's getting a little freaky. Yeah, And again, like

450
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: you said, there's nothing funny about it's not it wasn't

451
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: intended to be funny. It was intended to scare. And

452
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: the idea is is that what we're seeing in these

453
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: six strips or the actual reality of Garfield and that

454
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: everything else he finally manages to go back to is

455
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 1: basically dying fever dream. Yeah. Feature John and Odie. Yeah,

456
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: but well they disappear though in that strip too at

457
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: the end. Yeah, like they appear and then like he

458
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: goes to give him food and then they like disappear

459
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: and he's alone again at the end of that sixth strip. Yeah,

460
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: oh okay, So he's hallucinated them and then is alone,

461
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,479
Speaker 1: okay and abandoned. So that's why okay, right, So then

462
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 1: that backs up that whole idea that yeah, they're just

463
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: a hallucination because they're demonstrated as an hallucination in that

464
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: sixth series strip. Yeah, and he's six strips series. That

465
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 1: was his intent was very much to do something sad

466
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: and different, and I think he heard quite a bit

467
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: from the fans like what is going on? Right, And

468
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: then apparently he kind of laughed at the idea when

469
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: someone said, Hey, you realize what people think, that this

470
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: is all a big hallucination, like every other strip you've

471
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: drawn as a hallucination of this dying cat. And he

472
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 1: laughed about it. But like, what what else were people

473
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: supposed to think? Yeah, that he just got really heavy

474
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: and weird for six strips. And I think the other

475
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: thing that was so off putting about it too, is

476
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: it resolves or there is no resolution. I think on

477
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,479
Speaker 1: that that seventh day, the Sunday one just picks up

478
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: like everything's totally normal, and it never saw, which makes

479
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: it even more unsettling. Yeah, and then Chuck, there's a

480
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: there's a clear I don't know if it was a

481
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: reference to it or coincidence or whatever, but there's this

482
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: um animated movie called Allegro non Tropo and there's a

483
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: segment in it, what's the name of the segment, valse

484
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: triste about a cat that turns out to be a

485
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: ghost cat. Have you ever seen it? No, it's very good.

486
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, haunting. But it sort of parallels this Garfield

487
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: story very much. So, whether or not was purposeful, we

488
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: don't know that part, right, or did Jim Davis like

489
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: discount that too. I've never heard whether or not he

490
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: discounts that. Yeah, but that's definitely go check out the

491
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: Garfield strips. Just just look up like Garfield dead or

492
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: dying or whatever, Yeah, and it'll bring him up. But

493
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: um also, just I'm sure it's on YouTube. Just look

494
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: up vals va ls tres triste and it will. It'll

495
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: get to you. It's very sad and you should plug

496
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: your favorite thing ever, which is Garfield without Garfield. Oh yeah,

497
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: that's great. Yeah, which in that case, it was John

498
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: who was just crazy and hallucinating right, Yeah, you could

499
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: make a pretty good case that John was out of

500
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: his mind when you take Garfield out any given strip

501
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: and it's just John like, yeah, shouting out loud, like

502
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: he's just like like putting his head down on the counter.

503
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: Good stuff. Yeah, I forgot it about that. You want

504
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: to take a break, Yeah, we'll take a break and

505
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: go through another couple of quickies and then the big Daddy.

506
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: All right, did you see this Breaking Bad one? Yeah?

507
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: This one has spoilers for Breaking Bad and a little

508
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: bit of The Walking Dead, So if you haven't seen that,

509
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: tune out. But there is a theory that's actually, I

510
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: think kind of cool because I love both shows Breaking

511
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: Bad and Walking Dead, that the blue meth from Breaking

512
00:30:54,400 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: Bad is what caused the zombie outbreak in the Walking Dead. Yeah,

513
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: and I'm bad. Yeah, but I mean it seems like

514
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: they're totally unconnected until you start digging in there. That's right.

515
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: When you look at season one, the character of Glenn

516
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: Hey shout out to Stephen Young, he's a listener. Stuff

517
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: you should know. Yeah what up dog? Hopefully still is

518
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: not anymore. He drives a Red Dodge Challenger in that

519
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: first season, which looks kind of like Walter White's car

520
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: that he eventually ends up with, and then in Breaking Bad,

521
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: when Walter White returns that dodge, he takes it back

522
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: and the managers. The dealership's general manager is named Glenn

523
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: little Thin. The best one is it comes in season

524
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: two if you ask me, yeah, I agree, you take it, buddy,

525
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: Because why you didn't watch either one of these shows? No? No,

526
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: I did. Okay, I saw all Breaking Bad and I've

527
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: seen I can't remember how far I've seemed. Pretty far

528
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: into Walking Dead. I'm behind him Walking Dead by like

529
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: one season. Oh I need to go back catch up. Yeah, anyway,

530
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: season two, Darryl played by Norman Ritas, is um trying

531
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: to take the fever down on tea dog. There's another character, right,

532
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: why's it funny saying dog? So his brother Merle is

533
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: m he is like this bag of drugs basically, so

534
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: he looks through the bag see if there's anything that

535
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: can help bring the fever down. And there is that

536
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: blue crystal meth from Breaking Bath in his bag. So

537
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: that's a good little hint, yep. And then before the

538
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: zombie Apocalypse, Merle, his brother, was actually a drug dealer

539
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: and he described in one episode, his supplier was quote

540
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: a jankie little white guy who threatened him with a

541
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: handgun and said, I'm gonna kill you. B word. Yeah,

542
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: and that very much sounds like Jesse Pinkman. Yeah. The

543
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: only way it could have gotten it across more is

544
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: if he'd mentioned fat stacks or something, right, that would

545
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: have been like super on the nose though. So that's

546
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,959
Speaker 1: that's a pretty fun theory. It is obviously meth equals

547
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: death everybody, that's right, especially Blue. Well. The one thing

548
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: I didn't get was like, what are like all those

549
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: people on meth? But then I thought, no, maybe just

550
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: a certain amount. And then they infected other people with

551
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: their zombie juice. Yeah, okay, I got one. All right.

552
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: This is this is an old one, but I think

553
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: it's a good one. The Flintstones and the jet Sins

554
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: take place at the exact same time. It's a good one.

555
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: That the Flintstones are not prehistoric, they're actually set in

556
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: a post apocalyptic future. And you'd say that doesn't make

557
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: any sense, does it. The author, I think this came

558
00:33:55,760 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: from mental floss points out why would some cave people

559
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: create record players with whatever they had on hand? No

560
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: one in prehistoric times knew what a record player was,

561
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: But if you were living in the post apocalyptic times,

562
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: you would want to be able to listen to records

563
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: because they'd already been invented. Yeah, so you would figure

564
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: out how to make a bird put its beak on

565
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: a record and use that instead. Why do they celebrate

566
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: Christmas in prehistoric times? Good question. Why Why does the

567
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: music in the flint Stones any popular music has always

568
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 1: like fifties, like English British invasion type of I forgot

569
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: about that, twitch twitch Yeah. Why do they have a

570
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 1: banking system? Yeah? Set up. Yeah, that's fairly complex, it is.

571
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: Why are these animals talking? Well, that's just weird. Yeah,

572
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can like place that at

573
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: the feet of George Jetson the The thing about the Jetsons, though,

574
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: is supposedly they are living up in It's not cloud

575
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: City or orbit City, which is supposedly built in the

576
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 1: clouds above a small line, which is where the Flintstones

577
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 1: live below the small line, and allegedly the thing that

578
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: divides them really more than anything is income. Yeah, that

579
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: the Jetsons are wealthy and part of the ones that

580
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: can survive and live up in the clean air. The

581
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: Flintstones are a part that have to scrape by with

582
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: whatever they can find back here on Earth. Well, and

583
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: that George and Fred mirror one another, and that Fred

584
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: labors at this I mean, I don't even know what

585
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: you call that, like a quarry, a quarry, yeah, with

586
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: mister sleet, whereas George works at spacely rockets and it

587
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: sess here in this article works for a total of

588
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: about nine hours a week. And then robots and computers

589
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 1: handle everything else that's supposedly how our life is supposed

590
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: to be right now, but we're not doing it right.

591
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: Oh really yeah, and now robots are just stealing everyone's job,

592
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: but we don't have anything to show for it except

593
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: for joblessness, but the bad kind. Right. There was a

594
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: movie called The Jetsons Meet the flint Stones, And in

595
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: that very movie, George Jetson visits the past and has

596
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: a little kind of a throwaway comment when he sees

597
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: green grass, and he says that it's something he remembers

598
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: from ancient history. Right, so that one kind of undermines

599
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: the whole idea. Oh, I don't know, well, if he's

600
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: saying that he from ancient history, Oh, I see that part. Yeah,

601
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 1: like there was an apocalypse and there is no grass.

602
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: But if he visits the past, I don't know. This

603
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: is falling apart. Yeah, where we talk about it. It

604
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: undermines that one. Remember the Great Kazoo? What was up

605
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: with that guy? Yeah, well this is where stuff you

606
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: should know is devolved too. Remember the Great Kazoo? What

607
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: was up with that guy? The whole Christmas thing is

608
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: weird to me that the flint Stones would celebrate Christmas

609
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: when they were clearly supposedly before the birth of Christ

610
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: as being in prehistoric times. Right, No, it doesn't make

611
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: any sense. There's a lot of stuff the Flintstones didn't

612
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: make sense about. How about the Scooby Doo win I

613
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: thought this was pretty great, Yeah, and not Scooby Doo. See,

614
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: this is the difference between a good fan theory and

615
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: a bad one. Bad one. Scooby and Shaggy are always

616
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: stoned because look, they're bumbling, and they're always hungry for

617
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: Scooby snacks, for Scooby snacks. Bad fan theory, good fan theory.

618
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: Scooby Doo takes place after the world economy has shattered, right,

619
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 1: it's great. Yeah, and there's a lot to it right. Yeah,

620
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: So the idea is that these guys are driving around

621
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: and if you really look at the places that they visit,

622
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: everything's abandoned and run down, always like abandoned amusement park,

623
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: abandoned ski resort, abandoned everything. And not only are these

624
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: places abandoned, they're they're populated did by people who are

625
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: squatting basically in these abandoned places. They live in the

626
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: abandoned place, and the bad guys are yeah, and they

627
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: have no means to support themselves other than by carrying

628
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: out these weird veiled crimes that they try to dress

629
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: up as something other world they which suggests that their geniuses. Right,

630
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 1: so very very smart people living in squalor and are jobless. Yeah,

631
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: was this cracked? Yeah? So it says that out of

632
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: the twenty seven villains in the original Scooby Doo Where

633
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: Are You Run, twenty three of the twenty seven are

634
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 1: motivated by monetary gain via theft, smuggling or land speculation.

635
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: And like you said, if these people are geniuses, why

636
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: are they you know, like I'm going to squat in

637
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: this abandoned mansion so I can gain ownership of it. Right,

638
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: It's all very strange. Yeah, and they point out that

639
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: the talents that these people have are indicate a very

640
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: wide variety of specific schooling. Right, Yeah, two were PhDs,

641
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: two or three were PhDs. Two were lawyers, one had

642
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: an ability to produce forged paintings, one could repair boats,

643
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: one was a magician, it's a stunt man. So these

644
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: are highly skilled, highly specialized professions that these people are

645
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: trained in or capable of doing. But yet they're out

646
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 1: of work and they're pulling off these very elaborate schemes

647
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: rather than just having a job in their profession. Yeah,

648
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: and even Scooby Doo, like when they go into a

649
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: nice vacation spots, it's run down and abandoned. It's like

650
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: Soviet level vacation spot. Yeah, pretty much. So I thought

651
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: this was a great one. That was good. At the

652
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: very least they had some reason to not just have

653
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: it be like normal society that they were living in,

654
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: and like they would you know, like when you go

655
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: back and look at them, they were weird. Yeah, weird

656
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: settings for shows really sparsely populated because it's anime, there's

657
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: no reason to do that. Yeah, I could see if

658
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: you were like, oh wait, not much of a budget,

659
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: so we got to go shoot at this abandoned amusement park.

660
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: But they, like if they are at a restaurant, they're

661
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: almost invariably the only people there. Have you ever noticed that? Yeah,

662
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: it's like a really empty series. It's cool. It makes

663
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: it a little more haunting. I like it. Are you

664
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: ready for the last one? All right? I think we've

665
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: waited well long enough. This one is based on the

666
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: television hospital procedural drama Saint Elsewhere, Right, which Saint Elsewhere

667
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: If you watched it, or even if you didn't and

668
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: you just are a fan of like famous endings of

669
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: TV series, Saint Elsewhere was very famous for its ending

670
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 1: in that also famous for having a bunch of like

671
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,439
Speaker 1: big stars earlier in their careers. Yeah, Howie Mandel, Denzel, Yeah,

672
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: Ed Begley, Yeah, begs a lot of other people. But

673
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: it very famously ended with um. At the very end,

674
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 1: it showed a shot at the hospital with a snow

675
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: falling and then you pull back and you realize that

676
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: that was actually a snow globe held by a boy, right,

677
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: and it's kind of mind blowing. It's like, oh my god, right,

678
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: because again, this is real. If you watched er or anything, scrubs,

679
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: what any normal show about hospital life? Yeah, and it's

680
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: about hospital life. That's what Saint Elsewhere was about. Yeah,

681
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: you know it was weird and quirky, but it was

682
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 1: it was about a hospital. So the idea of drama

683
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: that the last scene of I think six seasons, yes,

684
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: six years, one hundred and thirty seven episodes about a

685
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: life at a hospital and the characters that inhabited and

686
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: worked at this hospital. Yeah, the hospitals in a snow globe.

687
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: This is totally out of left field, right, Yeah, make

688
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: it even weirder. In walks who had up to this

689
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: point been the director of surgery. I think Donald Westfall,

690
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: he's the medical director of Saint Elsewhere. Yeah, he walks in.

691
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: He's clearly not a doctor. He's dressed, he's not dressed

692
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: like one. He's like a construction guy. Yeah. The way

693
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: he's talking, he's super like blue collar. All of a sudden,

694
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: and he walks into the room where the boy holding

695
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: the snow globe, whose name we will find out is

696
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: Tommy Westfall. He is Donald Westfall's son in the series

697
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: sant Elsewhere. Yeah, he had been on the show, but

698
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: he was never like a big character, and he had autism,

699
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 1: and in walks Donald Westfall, who's now a construction worker,

700
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: and says he's talking to his own father. He's like,

701
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: I don't get it, Pops. He just sits around and

702
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: looks at that snow globe all day. I wonder what

703
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: he's thinking in his head, which suggests pretty strongly. Yet

704
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: everything about Saint Elsewhere all one hundred and thirty seven

705
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 1: episodes took place in the mind of Tommy Westfall, this

706
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: boy with autism, who was sitting there staring at his

707
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: snow globe. Yeah, I mean, in fact, it's it's really

708
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: it was even more on the nose than that. He

709
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: actually says, I don't understand this autism thing, Bob. He's

710
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: my son. I talked to him. I don't even know

711
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: if he can hear me. He sits there all day long,

712
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: in his own world, staring at that toy. What's he

713
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: thinking about? Right? Like, they didn't need to say all that.

714
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 1: They should have just to me, showed that and showed

715
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: him coming in as a construction guy and maybe just

716
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: looked longingly at the sun. But he's kind of like,

717
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: you get it. Everyone so America is sitting there like what. Yeah.

718
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: At the time, this is what nineteen eighty eight, I

719
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: think when it went off, all of America was just like,

720
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: what just happened? That's really weird. But then in two

721
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: thousand and two it started to get even weirder, right, yeah,

722
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: because there's a TV writer named Dwayne McDuffie, and he

723
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: wrote a post called six Degrees of Saying Elsewhere and

724
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 1: he points out, wait, everybody, if all of Saint Elsewhere

725
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: it took place just in Tommy Westfall's mind, then that

726
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 1: means that there's a significant amount of NBC shows that

727
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: also are just in Tommy Westfall's mind. It's come to

728
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: be called the Tommy Westfall hypothesis or the Tommy Westfall

729
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: universe multiverse. Okay, Yeah, and it just spreads and spreads

730
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 1: and spreads. And there's a really good this Paste article

731
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: called Tommy's World, The TV Legacy of Saint Elsewhere's Tommy

732
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: Westfall Universe is pretty much the definitive outside post on it. Yeah,

733
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: and it lays out a pretty good thread of how

734
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: shows are connected. And since they're connected, that means that

735
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: they're all taking place in the mind of this boy

736
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: with autism, Tommy Westfall. Right, and it goes a little

737
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: something like this. Some of the doctors from Saint Elsewhere

738
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: went to Cheers one time. Okay, so that means Cheers

739
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: is in Tommy westfall mine. Uh. Frasier was a spin

740
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 1: off of Cheers. Check. That means Frasier isn't real. Yeah,

741
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: you're getting this. We don't need to say that after

742
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: each one, due I think he early drives the point home.

743
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: The John Larocquette show, um, which was actually pretty good.

744
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 1: John Larrictt's great and that show was very underrated, but

745
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: the lead character played by John laraic Kett was John Hemingway.

746
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: He called in one time on Frasier's talk show. Yeah,

747
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: on Frasier he was one of the collins as that character. Right.

748
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: So now John lara Keett's universe is in Tommy Westfall's mine.

749
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: That's right. So on the John Larricquette show itself, they

750
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: mentioned Yo Yo Dine as a company, a tech company, right, Yeah.

751
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: And in Star Trek, Yo Yo Dine made technology used

752
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: by the Enterprise crew Yo Yo Dine, right, right, Yoyodyne.

753
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: So that means Star Trek is in Tommy Westfall's mind.

754
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: That's right. Yo Yo Dine was also appears again in Angel,

755
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: the TV's Joss Whedon's Angel. It was part of the

756
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: I think he was a client of the law firm

757
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: Wolframan Heart right Angel, Okay, and then Wolfreman Heart was

758
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: representation to another tech company called whalan Utani which made

759
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: tech on the TV show Firefly. Things are getting deep now, right,

760
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 1: So now Firefly is in Tommy Westfall's mind as well?

761
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: Then whyland Utani ship was in a spaceship graveyard on

762
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: the series in Britain Red Dwarf Right, and then Bring

763
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: it Home and then the Tartists is in the hangar

764
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: bay of the ship Red Dwarf on the show. So

765
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: that means that Firefly, Red Dwarf, and then Doctor Who

766
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: are all in the mind of Tommy Westfall because all

767
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: of them are connected back to Saint Elsewhere. And as

768
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: the author of this paced article points out, this is

769
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: a normal thread. Yeah, it spread to something like more

770
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: than four hundred TV shows being implicated as being in

771
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: the imagination of Tommy Westfall. Yeah. I think the last

772
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 1: count I saw was four hundred and nineteen shows. It's

773
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: so amazing, which you know, if they just get one more,

774
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden it's a weed theory, right, yeah,

775
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, pretty great. Tell him about John Munch though,

776
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: he's like the all star character from Tommy Westfall universe,

777
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: all right. That was Belzer's character on Homicide Life on

778
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: the Street, right, and that was apparently a spinoff from

779
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: Saint Elsewhere. It was related to it somehow, Yeah, I

780
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: think so officially related. But then Munch was on a

781
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: bunch of different shows. Yeah, like his character, not just

782
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: the guy who played him. Yeah, but he got He

783
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 1: just popped up in different shows all over the place,

784
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 1: not even a necessarily just on NBC. Oh yeah. He

785
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: was on X Files and that was Fox, wasn't it. Yeah? Uh,

786
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: Law and Order, The Wire was on the Wire, Yeah,

787
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: and he was on thirty Rock yea. So Munch is

788
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: just sitting there since he was already connected to Saint Elsewhere,

789
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: any show he pops up on, he's obviously in the

790
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: same universe as Saint Elsewhere, which again is in Tommy

791
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: Westfall's mine. So most of the television in the United

792
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: States doesn't exist, come, you know, it doesn't exist except

793
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: in the mind of a boy with autism who likes

794
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: his snow globe. Back in nineteen eighty eight. I wonder

795
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 1: how much of that was I mean, not pre planned,

796
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: but zero from what I understand. Well, they clearly meant

797
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: to show though that Saint Elsewhere was a figment of

798
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: his imagination, right, But I don't think they even stopped

799
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: and thought, oh well, thats too right, you know. Wow. Well,

800
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: and then most of that stuff came after Saint Elsewhere too,

801
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: So I wonder then if someone kind of ran with it,

802
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: like if there's this inside Cabal and Hollywood and the

803
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: w GA where people are trying to like I'm sure

804
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: try these things together, so it's like putting a Wilhelm

805
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: scream in yeah, which we did incorrectly, very tried, tried, Jerry, Well,

806
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: yeah that was that was just that was in sys

807
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 1: k jam yep uh you got anything else, no, sir. Well,

808
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: if you want to know more about TV fan theories,

809
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: you can go find them on the internets or send

810
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: one in. Though, if you have one that we didn't

811
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: talk about, yeah, a good one though we defined what

812
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: a fan theory is ak so good one yeah, and

813
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: nothing from Lost Yeah, yeah, just don't bother if you

814
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: already said all that stuff. So since I said I

815
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: already said all that stuff. It's time for listener mail.

816
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call this hidden Whiskey. Remember our live show

817
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: in Vancouver we talked about the Canadian Club had a

818
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: very special promo in the eighties where they hit cases

819
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: of whiskey all over the world like a big scavenger hunt,

820
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: and not all of that whiskey was found. Remember that? Yeah?

821
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: I remember. So. This guy, Chris Ortloff, writes in about that.

822
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: He said one of them was hidden in Lake Placid,

823
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: New York, a year before the nineteen eighty Olympics, and

824
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: supposedly was never found. And a few years ago, more

825
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: than three decades later, my mother picked up the trail

826
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: when she discovered that it was possibly still out there.

827
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: I love it. This guy's mom was like, what free whiskey?

828
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: I think she was just like, sounds like an adventure.

829
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just a kidding, you know. Maybe she

830
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: wanted the free whiskey too. A fan of cryptic crossword puzzles,

831
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: word games, and snowshoeing, the allure was too much for

832
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: her to pass up. Well there you have it. Yeah,

833
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: Plus she really liked whiskey. She tracked down a man

834
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: in Connecticut who had previously searched for it, spoke with

835
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: customer service at Canadian Club even and with a couple

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Speaker 1: of other leads. She spent months turning over the clues,

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Speaker 1: checking current in historical maps, and hiking through the woods

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Speaker 1: and fields around Lake Placid. I love this guy's mom. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I sat down with her a few times with my

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Speaker 1: did many of her friends and relatives. We have lots

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Speaker 1: she found it right, she didn't find it. Sadly, after

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Speaker 1: could be completely buried by leaves and twigs by now,

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Speaker 1: on leaves and twigs. If you were any listeners want

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Speaker 1: a chance of some buy now vintage Canadian whiskey, though

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Speaker 1: for the very least and enriching walk through the Christine,

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Speaker 1: Northern New York wilderness. The clues, as originally printed in

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Speaker 1: the cc AD or as follows, and then he gave

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Speaker 1: them to me, so you can just look that up

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Speaker 1: in the internet. They're out there. It's really well, I

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Speaker 1: Dakota pins, happy hunting, and do share one with me

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Speaker 1: if you find it. That is from Chris Ortloff. Thanks Ortloff.

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Speaker 1: Will appreciate that you have the last name of a

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Speaker 1: Ortloff for at the very least your mom. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if that's her name, Madame, Madame Ortlof, I like that.

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Speaker 1: It's a great explorer and adventure there. That's how she

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Speaker 1: frit Shelf forever be known in Yeah, well, thanks Ortloff

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Speaker 1: and Madame Mortloff. If you want to get in touch

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Speaker 1: with us to tell us something cool that your mom's done,

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Speaker 1: time for Mother's Day too. Yeah. You can tweet to

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