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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio. Carson is a first time caller checking in

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Speaker 1: from Minneapolis. Good morning, Carson. How's it going, Richard? Very well, sir, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to talk about a little bit about

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Speaker 1: aliens and kind of our existential crisis as a human

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Speaker 1: civilization and how we indoctrinate ourselves in the place in

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Speaker 1: the universe. All right, that sounds like a weighty topic. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I've always kind of them, I guess the perspective.

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Speaker 1: So a little background with me. I'm younger, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm twenty seven years old, but uh just recently received

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Speaker 1: my pH d and aerospace engineering. A lot of these

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Speaker 1: these questions when it comes to flight and space and

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Speaker 1: all these things, I contemplate quite a bit, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: when I think about like what could be the future

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Speaker 1: of what are you know, human time to do? And

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Speaker 1: I quite often think when it comes to the topic

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Speaker 1: of aliens that, yeah, you know, it's very difficult for

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Speaker 1: me to think about because I think about these things

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Speaker 1: and I think that we're at a very beginning point

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Speaker 1: kind of in our you know, exploration of what can

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Speaker 1: be done when it comes to spaceflight. And it's very

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Speaker 1: interesting to me when people bring up aliens because it's

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Speaker 1: almost as if I think that at this point we're

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Speaker 1: at such a beginner stage that I don't even know

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Speaker 1: if that you know, advanced civilizations would even consider us

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Speaker 1: to be technologically advanced. I mean, if you were to

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Speaker 1: give our society one hundred thousand years in the scope

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Speaker 1: of universal time, I mean, the universe is conceptualized three

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Speaker 1: point eight billion years ago, which is just insane to

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Speaker 1: even nationalize as a human being. For to give ours

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Speaker 1: society one hundred thousand years. I mean, we could be,

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Speaker 1: you know, traveling the expanse of our galaxy, and at

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Speaker 1: this point in time, that is an absolutely asinine topic

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Speaker 1: to even consider, considering relativity and all the scientific topics

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Speaker 1: we've know, we've discovered to us point. Okay, the Carson,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. Then,

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Speaker 1: what do you make of the statements by Ben rich

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Speaker 1: on his deathbed regarding and he was, of course the

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Speaker 1: director of Skunk Works. His comments about things like if

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Speaker 1: if you've seen it on Star Trek or Star Wars,

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Speaker 1: we've been there, we've done that, or decided it wasn't

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Speaker 1: worth the effort or. He also said, we have things

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Speaker 1: and hangers out in the desert that our fifty years

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Speaker 1: beyond your wildest imagination. And then he said, we have

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Speaker 1: the technology to take et home. What do you make

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Speaker 1: of that? So, UM, So I do work for people

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Speaker 1: that I can't exactly um divulge. However, UM, I would

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Speaker 1: like to say I'm at the absolute cost of technological

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Speaker 1: advance right now. I'm not gonna like, den'ty any of

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Speaker 1: that any of that stuff, because I genuinely believe in it,

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Speaker 1: and I think that there's very and the one thing

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Speaker 1: that very frustrates me because I've involved myself in physics

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Speaker 1: quite a bit and in academia, Um, I've done quite

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Speaker 1: a bit with physics. A lot of the scientists today

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Speaker 1: are very close minded and like, um, everything to be

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Speaker 1: quite elegant um and and as far as equations conceptions go,

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Speaker 1: um and and want everything to be beautiful as they

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Speaker 1: conceptualize them into reality. And I think people are very

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Speaker 1: close minded in the way that we view conscious reality

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Speaker 1: um and and honestly egotistical and and that's a huge

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Speaker 1: issue with the scientific community. That's the whole other topic. UM.

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Speaker 1: But you know, like you know you take your Einstein's,

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Speaker 1: you take your Neils bores Um, all those people. They

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Speaker 1: went into scientific scientific community with a very open mind.

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Speaker 1: And I believe that in today's society it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: not very um, it's not the way it needs to be.

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Speaker 1: Everyone has their own cliques and it was. But in

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Speaker 1: regards to what you said, UM, I absolutely believe that

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Speaker 1: those capabilities are more than more than possible. I mean

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Speaker 1: even today, I mean when you look at them, I'm

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Speaker 1: not I don't know if you're familiar with what the

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Speaker 1: Alcuberi drive is, that is a under general relativity or

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Speaker 1: um Enstonian mechanics, that's what's been conceptualized to be able

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Speaker 1: to warp space time and in very recent years, in

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Speaker 1: the past two or three years, UM, what was believed

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Speaker 1: to be, you know, the energy vironments or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Initially when that the theory was proposed, was you know,

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Speaker 1: multiple times what the energy the sun was. And you know,

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Speaker 1: in the past two years, they've you know, worked around

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Speaker 1: the equations and figured stuff out to make the energy

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Speaker 1: requirements much much less than what we initially thought. And

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Speaker 1: you know, it all comes back to the theory of innovation.

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Speaker 1: You know, sixty years ago, they thought that the Earth

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Speaker 1: was going to starve with overpopulation. But then we develop

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Speaker 1: new farming technology that created much easier situations to provide

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Speaker 1: food for the Earth. And I believe that to be

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Speaker 1: the same with the scientific community that comes to space flight.

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Speaker 1: You know, we believe things initially to be almost impossible,

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Speaker 1: but as we give it more time, and as we

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Speaker 1: have more unbelievable minds working towards the project, we start

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Speaker 1: to refine initial theory again to a point to where

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Speaker 1: it becomes feasible or possible. All right, So do you

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Speaker 1: think that what ben Rich was talking about when he

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Speaker 1: said we have the power to take et home? Do

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Speaker 1: you think we were already involved in deep space exploration.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps we even have deep space platforms. As much as

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Speaker 1: I would like to believe that right now, if there

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Speaker 1: were one thing I were to believe, you know, you

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Speaker 1: have the whole area fift you want the Roswall stuff,

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Speaker 1: I would totally in my perspective from my field of work,

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Speaker 1: I would totally believe that we have. You know, like

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Speaker 1: I find it really hard to believe when you're written,

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Speaker 1: look at the Roswall stuff and all the other UFO

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Speaker 1: encounters that we haven't had some sort of contact with

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Speaker 1: technology that we don't understand at this point in time.

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Speaker 1: I would would very much believe that we may have

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Speaker 1: technology in our in our possession in the federal government

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Speaker 1: or you know, in the or other governments within with

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Speaker 1: within the United Nations. Uh, that could potentially have that capability.

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Speaker 1: Now I need you understand it absolutely not. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, when we really think about our scientific perspective

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Speaker 1: in the community, because perspective is really important, especially in

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Speaker 1: a in a universal perspective, because the universe has been

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Speaker 1: was conceived about thirteen point eight billion years ago, I

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Speaker 1: guess in modern scientific understanding, and we're in the latter

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Speaker 1: I think it's you know, thirty thirty three percent of

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Speaker 1: the universal conception. There's a lot of time in between

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Speaker 1: that you know, um, intelligent life could have developed and

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Speaker 1: you know, we only developed calculus three hundred years scale

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Speaker 1: and in the universal scale, that's nothing. So when it

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Speaker 1: comes to the human races understanding of how the universe works,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we are we are show written and that

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Speaker 1: is a very very conserved vestment. I mean, we real

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Speaker 1: children at best at universal understanding. Do we have technology

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Speaker 1: that we that we possess potentially Do we understand it?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely not? I mean you have to look at you

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Speaker 1: have to look at it from a military perspective, because

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Speaker 1: the military is where that's where the forefront of technology is. UM.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure we have we have stuff that you

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Speaker 1: and I couldn't even possibly imagine as being What about

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Speaker 1: the t R three B, uh, Carson, is that for real?

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Speaker 1: This TR three B, this uh triangular shaped craft that

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Speaker 1: can hover silently. Um, it's got antrew gavitic technology associated

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Speaker 1: with it. Um. Maybe what's behind the Phoenix lights and

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Speaker 1: other mass UFO sightings? Do you believe the t R

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Speaker 1: three B is real? Do we have that technology? See?

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Speaker 1: That's that's a typical question to answer because when you

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Speaker 1: really think about like I guess, like when you look

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Speaker 1: at the the capability to extend power or extend reach

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Speaker 1: with within the world government with a capability like that,

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Speaker 1: it's hard for me to believe that the United States government,

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Speaker 1: with how corrupt they are, because they wouldn't you know,

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Speaker 1: abuse that power and keep it as secretive as it is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean there's a there's a definite potential

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Speaker 1: that they could one hundred percent conceal technology like that

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Speaker 1: to you know, hyper extensive degree to where that you know,

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Speaker 1: it would be undeniable that we don't have some stuff

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Speaker 1: like that, But I would like to believe, I mean,

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Speaker 1: because you know, obviously, like technology like that would be

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Speaker 1: world changing. You know, you know when it look at

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Speaker 1: it from a structure's perspective, you know, we have tons

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Speaker 1: of places that are susceptible to earthquakes. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: technology like that was readily available and you know, build

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Speaker 1: the boy, I mean, every building would be built on that,

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Speaker 1: there'd be no reason in earthquake desceptible areas that you

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Speaker 1: would right well, there'd be no reason to be sending

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Speaker 1: astronauts up using rocket fuel. You know that that's all

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Speaker 1: just obviously would be just it's window dressing or whatever

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Speaker 1: you want to call it. There's you know, we get

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Speaker 1: into a discussion about the secret space program and how

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Speaker 1: the Space Shuttle program and Mercury and Apollo we're all

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Speaker 1: just a diversion because meanwhile, while we're flying astronauts up

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Speaker 1: into space with rocket fuel and sometimes meeting and with

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Speaker 1: tragic ends, they have andrew gravitics. And if that's the case,

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Speaker 1: if that's the case, this call it a breakaway civilization

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Speaker 1: if you will. Like Richard Dolan likes to refer to them,

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Speaker 1: they've got blood on their hands. They've got blood on

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Speaker 1: their hands. We've got astronauts dying in these horrible explosions

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Speaker 1: because of rocket fuel, and they have they're sitting on

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Speaker 1: anti gravitics. It would be, it would be inexcusable. Carson

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Speaker 1: got a run hitting the top of the hour. Great

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