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Speaker 3: How's everybody doing this morning?
Speaker 2: Excellent? God?
Speaker 3: Good?
Speaker 5: All right, we had a lot to talk about Cowboys
Speaker 5: versus Eagles. Will wrap that whole conversation up and get
Speaker 5: you guys ready for the matchup this weekend. We'll have
Speaker 5: some injury updates here in just a few moments as well.
Speaker 5: We got a little YETI time with ag that'll happen
Speaker 5: in our second segment, and and we'll see where the
Speaker 5: show goes. If we have time and Amber doesn't talk
Speaker 5: too much, we will get to maybe some questions from you.
Speaker 5: Guys already have a couple that have rolled in on
Speaker 5: Twitter or x or whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 5: and so maybe we'll get to some of those in
Speaker 5: the final segment.
Speaker 3: What's up, Ryan, No.
Speaker 2: I had a question real quick.
Speaker 4: Sure, is it okay to start looking at draft film
Speaker 4: for you?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, jump in me to do whatever you want.
Speaker 4: I just wondered because I think people kind of are
Speaker 4: getting in that mode. But I've had people like listening.
Speaker 4: The season ain't over, So I just kind of wondered
Speaker 4: what you guys.
Speaker 2: Thought about that.
Speaker 4: Well'sase I've already looked at five guys look at it.
Speaker 5: I look at it in two different ways. Number One,
Speaker 5: I don't think necessarily like the Break is not about
Speaker 5: to become the Draft Show right now. We're gonna still
Speaker 5: We're gonna play this thing out because that's what we do.
Speaker 5: We're going to talk about it every week. Sure, but
Speaker 5: that doesn't mean that I don't want the folks that
Speaker 5: are going to be on the Draft Show to not
Speaker 5: be working on Draft Show stuff because that may come,
Speaker 5: that may up a little faster than we think from
Speaker 5: the standpoint of when we get that show cranked up, right, So.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's two different things.
Speaker 5: Absolutely good and start watching, but we're not going to
Speaker 5: turn the break into into the drift.
Speaker 4: Well, I just you know, like I say, I usually
Speaker 4: start on December first, and here I am starting on
Speaker 4: November seven.
Speaker 3: Now, they're honestly like, here's the thing.
Speaker 4: I feel bad for the people that are still fighting
Speaker 4: in the season. You know, they still feel like, hey man,
Speaker 4: wait till the last game. And I and I respect that.
Speaker 4: I respect that, but I also see in my reality
Speaker 4: where I think this thing might go.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but here's the thing, and I've I've learned this
Speaker 5: over the years, and it's how I approach sports now.
Speaker 5: It's not just with the Cowboys, it's also with the Longhorns.
Speaker 5: For me, I look at sports as sports is my entertainment,
Speaker 5: and I refuse to let it become my consternation. I
Speaker 5: refuse to let it become my problem. Right, And so
Speaker 5: that means every game I'm just watching to see if
Speaker 5: I can enjoy something out of that game.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 5: That's it's nothing more, nothing less, because that's the healthy
Speaker 5: way for me to be able to consume sports because
Speaker 5: I've been in a place where I wasn't healthy, man,
Speaker 5: and it ain't good for me or my family for
Speaker 5: me to bene.
Speaker 2: Now I know, but every weekend is going to be.
Speaker 5: Yes and by the way, and by the way, that's
Speaker 5: the way I look at it is that weekend is
Speaker 5: isolated to that weekend. I'm not letting myself look forward
Speaker 5: back whatever. I'm going to enjoy that weekend for that weekend.
Speaker 5: If we win, great, if we don't, onto the next one,
Speaker 5: Like I just I can't live in that world of
Speaker 5: being too down about whatever is going wrong.
Speaker 4: I just think there's a lot of fans out there
Speaker 4: that are there still holding hope, and I don't want
Speaker 4: to kill any hope. But I'm trying to also get
Speaker 4: ready for something that might be really really major this spring,
Speaker 4: you know, when you start to talk about where this
Speaker 4: team needs to go and stuff. So I apologize if
Speaker 4: all of a sudden draft talk breaks out on other
Speaker 4: platforms I'm on, but here we are.
Speaker 5: You know, Well, either way, there's there's a if the season.
Speaker 5: Let's say the season does turn around. Oh obviously that's
Speaker 5: a good thing.
Speaker 3: Say it doesn't. Let's say it doesn't.
Speaker 5: If it doesn't, then that means you probably get a
Speaker 5: pretty good draft picks. So then so then it does
Speaker 5: have some intrigue of Okay, you're up there, closer to
Speaker 5: the top of the of the draft. How do you
Speaker 5: get what? What kind of player can you really get?
Speaker 5: That changes things?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: I think with the I think with the Dack injury,
Speaker 4: I think that's where people.
Speaker 2: Might have flipped.
Speaker 4: You know it minds you der reminiscent of when we
Speaker 4: dealt with the Romo injury against Carolina on Thanksgiving Day.
Speaker 4: I just remember looking at David Hellman and him and man,
Speaker 4: he goes, we're got to start working on the draft now.
Speaker 4: We can't. We can't do this anymore. We're not gonna
Speaker 4: We're not gonna be okay here, you know. And and
Speaker 4: so I kind of when your quarterback gets knocked out
Speaker 4: like that, and and you know, listening to to the
Speaker 4: owner general manager talk on the radio today, you know,
Speaker 4: there's still kind of debating on you know, he wants
Speaker 4: to play, he is you know, is it gonna be surgery?
Speaker 4: Is there no surgery?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 4: And then see there's just so much of that. There's
Speaker 4: just no real cut and dry thing. There's so many
Speaker 4: things still in the air, and it makes you kind
Speaker 4: of like your season, you feel like it's kind of
Speaker 4: in the air that way as well.
Speaker 6: Well, you see, even though I can see the clear
Speaker 6: path of it just continuing going downhill based on what
Speaker 6: we've seen this first half of the season, especially after
Speaker 6: Dak getting hurt, part of me and the dreamer part
Speaker 6: of me there it still comes up with, well, you
Speaker 6: never know, let's wait until this weekend and see how he,
Speaker 6: like Cooper Rush looks and we talked about it. It's
Speaker 6: more I mean, the offensive lineman, those are the guys
Speaker 6: you're still working with, so that's not going to change
Speaker 6: for right now. But at the same time, I'm like,
Speaker 6: there's so many things that have occurred in the past
Speaker 6: that you didn't expect it to happen, and then it happened.
Speaker 6: You have so many different areas working against you currently,
Speaker 6: but at the same time, part of them is just like,
Speaker 6: you never know. The play calling might change based on
Speaker 6: you having to adjust with the quarterbacks that you're having
Speaker 6: to work with, and that could potentially somehow become positive.
Speaker 6: I don't know. I just keep going back and forth,
Speaker 6: but that I should learn my lesson though, because.
Speaker 4: No, see the thing about it is, I think the
Speaker 4: one thing that is not the same as when Cooper
Speaker 4: Rush was quarterback and is the defense.
Speaker 2: And you said the offensive line. Yeah, I know you'll
Speaker 2: say offensive line. Yeah. The defense kept them alive, kept
Speaker 2: you alive in those games.
Speaker 4: It kept you it It made the games where it
Speaker 4: wasn't always on Cooper Rush. You know, it was like, hey,
Speaker 4: somehow we're gonna hold this thing to seventeen. Find a
Speaker 4: way to get three touchdowns here?
Speaker 6: You know, now you're about to get Mike.
Speaker 3: That's what I saying. Can Micah provide that for you?
Speaker 2: What do you think their boss?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 8: I think you can certainly, especially the left tackle hole
Speaker 8: that they have the Eagles have.
Speaker 7: Are we talking about this weekend specifically?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm talking about like this week Look, let's part
Speaker 5: of this in what the whole conversation what we just said,
Speaker 5: I think revolves, as Amber even mentioned, kind of revolves
Speaker 5: around what happens this weekend. Right, you're all your your
Speaker 5: If they go out and they lose this weekend, then
Speaker 5: I think there are going to be a lot of
Speaker 5: people are going to be like, okay, well, whereas there's
Speaker 5: not really much. It's hard to find the hope at
Speaker 5: that point. Right, if they go out and they play
Speaker 5: well and they win, now, then the hope change is to, well,
Speaker 5: you got Micah back, and Cooper Rush is playing. I
Speaker 5: would assume if if they win, he's playing somewhat well.
Speaker 6: He's a bunch of division games.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's all those things that still keep hope there,
Speaker 5: keep hope alive. Right, So you know, look, sports fandom
Speaker 5: is like Christmas. Right, It's like it's the anticipation. It's
Speaker 5: the excitement of the hope that maybe I'm gonna get
Speaker 5: that thing I really really want. But by the way,
Speaker 5: that's right or wrong. I'm not saying it's right. I'm
Speaker 5: saying that I think for a lot of fans that's
Speaker 5: what sports is. It's like, that's why every year, the
Speaker 5: beginning of the season, I don't care how good or
Speaker 5: bad your.
Speaker 3: Team is projected to be. You're like, there's always that
Speaker 3: there's always that chance. I think that magic strikes and
Speaker 3: we are in the super Bowl.
Speaker 6: Right ten weeks ago, Slow down, No, I'm saying that's.
Speaker 4: Ten weeks ago we were an ox stard with hope. Yea,
Speaker 4: Now take it forward ten weeks man, this ended quick.
Speaker 6: Yeah, what is without hope?
Speaker 7: I think I think to your point, I think sports hope.
Speaker 2: I never bring the subject up again.
Speaker 8: Sports fandom is more like, uh, you weren't expecting this
Speaker 8: whole thing to go like.
Speaker 2: This bleeding hearts right.
Speaker 8: I think sports fandom is more like Christmas Eve, because
Speaker 8: you have the hope, whereas like the fandom itself can
Speaker 8: sometimes feel like day have.
Speaker 7: The like, yes, it's not necessarily Christmas Day.
Speaker 8: I had to come back on that thought because I
Speaker 8: was like, I was like, I don't know, I've been
Speaker 8: a lot happier on instances of Christmas than I have
Speaker 8: been on uh yeah, fast sports fandom.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I just didn't know.
Speaker 4: I didn't know because I I kind of feel like
Speaker 4: our fan base is split on this right now.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 2: I think they really are. I think they wanted.
Speaker 4: I think half the fan base wants to believe that
Speaker 4: Cooper Rush and the defense and the offensive line and
Speaker 4: the running game is gonna get going, and then the
Speaker 4: play caller is going to be back on track. You know,
Speaker 4: there's that's our hope right now. And then you got
Speaker 4: me who's like went through those five and eleven seasons.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen it, so.
Speaker 4: I kind of understand it, you know. And I'm not
Speaker 4: trying to big time anybody here, but you know, I
Speaker 4: just you just don't. I could say there's just too
Speaker 4: many signs. There's is too many signs that that the
Speaker 4: way things are going, that it's and especially losing your quarterback,
Speaker 4: that's never never a good thing to have to do with.
Speaker 3: That's always the one that can just take the wind
Speaker 3: out of here.
Speaker 2: That's the one that got me.
Speaker 4: That's the one that got me that you know that
Speaker 4: maybe you were going to kind of figure out some things,
Speaker 4: and you know, and and if it was a loss
Speaker 4: against Philadelphia, I hate the Eagles more than anything, I
Speaker 4: really do, and so and I dread what's about to.
Speaker 7: Happen, even as a former employee.
Speaker 4: On another they got rid of me, fair fair they
Speaker 4: didn't they don't know they didn't that.
Speaker 2: They didn't even let us have a chance.
Speaker 4: I mean I introduced him to Andy Reid, and then
Speaker 4: Andy Reid was there for fourteen years as a coach,
Speaker 4: just beating up on everybody in the NFC East. You know,
Speaker 4: didn't even get that well, yeah, didn't even get a chance.
Speaker 4: I mean, Andy and our neighbors in Green Bay, Jeff Lourry,
Speaker 4: Joe Banner. They didn't know who Andy Reid was. Like,
Speaker 4: They're like, hey, well there's this guy in Green Bay
Speaker 4: you might want to consider. You know, well we get
Speaker 4: let go what they do next year. The hi Andy Reid.
Speaker 4: They didn't know Andy Reid who he was. So to me, Yeah,
Speaker 4: there's there's a side of me that I'm pissed that
Speaker 4: we didn't get to finish this thing off, you know,
Speaker 4: with the draft and all the things that we were
Speaker 4: able to do to kind of turn it around. And
Speaker 4: you know, Andy benefit from and he's a damn good coach.
Speaker 2: We're seeing it today doubt so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, mister Lurry, I'm upset with you, sir. His wife
Speaker 4: is super nice by the way, ex wife.
Speaker 3: Excuse me real quick.
Speaker 5: I did have another topic I wanted to hit on
Speaker 5: that Jerry brought up on his call this morning on
Speaker 5: one on five DOWT three the Fan.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 5: He was talking about Jonathan Mingo and said he's a
Speaker 5: DAK friendly wide receiver.
Speaker 3: Says he'll be.
Speaker 2: Involved in that one.
Speaker 5: Off Yeah, right, he'd be involved in the offense sooner
Speaker 5: rather than later. What would you guys in looking at
Speaker 5: the film of him and know what you know about him.
Speaker 5: What do you think Jerry means when he says he's
Speaker 5: a DAK friendly receiver.
Speaker 8: I was trying to think in my head and Brian,
Speaker 8: you could probably have a better sigh for it here.
Speaker 8: So I was thinking size and how it translates to
Speaker 8: getting him the ball quick because this this offense and
Speaker 8: Jerry Jones has talked about many times Mike McCarthy about
Speaker 8: if Dak and operate under that two point three window, then.
Speaker 7: He is at his best.
Speaker 8: And so if he can get a weapon like a
Speaker 8: mingo who's a little bit more physical, who can create
Speaker 8: separation in less than two point three seconds, then maybe
Speaker 8: he sees that as a DAK for an or receiver.
Speaker 8: That's just me theorizing, though I don't necessarily have the
Speaker 8: full remedy of what he's trying to say.
Speaker 4: No, I think now you you, I think you went
Speaker 4: down the right path there. I think he's looking for
Speaker 4: a big body guy that throws the ball short and
Speaker 4: all of a sudden it's run after catch. You know,
Speaker 4: that's kind of his strength. What's this offense kind of become?
Speaker 4: It's last week it was throw any thing short, and
Speaker 4: then run after catch yep, you know, so a little
Speaker 4: bit too much of that going on for my taking,
Speaker 4: but but yeah, that's why I think that I think
Speaker 4: you've you've nailed this.
Speaker 8: Aside from the dack point, I was thinking about this
Speaker 8: last night, just kind of going through what Mingo has
Speaker 8: done over the course of his career. If there's an
Speaker 8: opportunity for Trey Lance and Jonathan Mingo to run a
Speaker 8: read option, y'all might hear me clapping the press box
Speaker 8: like I might get kicked out of the press box,
Speaker 8: because that that that is the creativity we're looking for,
Speaker 8: especially here down the stretch, like figure out what you
Speaker 8: got in t Lance and figure out what you got
Speaker 8: in Jonathan mean running game way to do it? Yeah,
Speaker 8: I think it could be. I think it could be
Speaker 8: a lot of fun if those two lines, is that your.
Speaker 2: Is that your hope?
Speaker 3: That's where he's open?
Speaker 2: Is that your hope?
Speaker 8: It's not Christmas Eve, it's November seventh for me or
Speaker 8: November eighth for sure.
Speaker 2: It's all fools days that it's April.
Speaker 5: I've heard this question before. I'd love to know y'all's
Speaker 5: thoughts on this. Do you think the trade for Jonathan
Speaker 5: Mingo is an indictment on Tolbert or Brooks or even
Speaker 5: Turpin or maybe none of the above. It's more just
Speaker 5: he's just a different kind of receiver.
Speaker 4: This organization will do one thing. There's something really consistent
Speaker 4: throughout this organization. They will trade for a wide receiver
Speaker 4: and a heartbeat. This owner is. This owner has always
Speaker 4: done that. I mean when I work for him, you
Speaker 4: with the going back to Joey Galloway, Roy Williams, Maury Cooper,
Speaker 4: he will always try and go get a wide receiver.
Speaker 4: So no, it doesn't surprise me, shock me any of that.
Speaker 3: It just and it's not about those other guys. I
Speaker 3: don't think it's I don't think it.
Speaker 4: Now me personally, I think it's so something that they
Speaker 4: to me, I still like Tolbert better than this kid.
Speaker 2: I do too, I really do.
Speaker 4: So to me, it was it's Jerry and them looking
Speaker 4: at it and thinking long term, is what I was saying.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think they do need a little bit more
Speaker 8: physicality in that room. I think there's a little bit
Speaker 8: of an indictment on the Brooks, Turpin Flinoy part of
Speaker 8: that room, not necessarily CD and Tolbert whereas like they
Speaker 8: need a guy that can be an established physical wide
Speaker 8: receiver three, whereas you know, he has an opportunity to
Speaker 8: do that.
Speaker 7: The rest of the rest of the way.
Speaker 4: Well, they they moved on from guys like you know
Speaker 4: Wilson and Noah Brown and people like that that that
Speaker 4: played that role.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, so I think they try to force
Speaker 8: Brooks into that role at times. They try to force
Speaker 8: Flinoy into that role at times in the preseason, and
Speaker 8: even Tolbert they've they've given him one on one opportunities
Speaker 8: and sure he's come down with but I think they
Speaker 8: really do need that guy who can just kind of yeah,
Speaker 8: buff his shoulders.
Speaker 2: You're in a.
Speaker 4: Situation where we we always talk about this with the
Speaker 4: how why do you play?
Speaker 2: You're asking these guys to do things.
Speaker 4: They're probably yeah, you know, condense the thing, you know,
Speaker 4: let them put them in position to make some plays,
Speaker 4: don't spread them out there, and then maybe played not
Speaker 4: play to their skill sets.
Speaker 6: I think to me, the way I see it is, well,
Speaker 6: Brendan Cooks is this is last year.
Speaker 7: It is last year of his contract.
Speaker 6: His contract, so we know wide receiver, that's an area
Speaker 6: where you very much needed but at the same time,
Speaker 6: and we've talked about the money, when you look at
Speaker 6: the off season, you're not going to break the bank
Speaker 6: on paying a veteran wide receiver to come in here,
Speaker 6: especially after you just paid Ceedy Lamb. So the way
Speaker 6: I just see is nothing against the other wide receivers
Speaker 6: are currently on the list. It's just more them knowing
Speaker 6: that they're going to have to draft a wide receiver,
Speaker 6: but now they used one of the draft picks on
Speaker 6: somebody that has already had some kind of experience around
Speaker 6: the league or being around you know, practicing and all
Speaker 6: that stuff. So it just it puts you just a
Speaker 6: little bit ahead as far as timeline and development than
Speaker 6: it would if you were drafting a wide receiver right
Speaker 6: off the draft.
Speaker 4: Can I be honest with you, Yeah, I just hate
Speaker 4: everything you just said.
Speaker 2: Okay, and I hate it, and I.
Speaker 4: Hate it from the fact about maybe you'll keep them
Speaker 4: from drafting somebody, you know, when you sign somebody, like
Speaker 4: you know, when you bring somebody in, you trade for somebody.
Speaker 4: I think I think bringing in Zeke kept them from
Speaker 4: potentially drafting a running back.
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes it's that And.
Speaker 6: I think I think it's all I don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't. I don't personally hate you. I
Speaker 2: mean it's what I said.
Speaker 3: You disagree. You hate the thought. I hate it.
Speaker 6: Because you value draft so high and so much. But
Speaker 6: the thing is that I think we're forgetting. Everyone has
Speaker 6: different perspective and different views and different how you great
Speaker 6: different players. So again, from their perspective, maybe this is
Speaker 6: a player that they highly like and and see it
Speaker 6: so they they see it differently than the value that
Speaker 6: you're trying to put in drafting another wide receiver. And
Speaker 6: I don't think it prevents him from even I mean, crap,
Speaker 6: you have so many positions of need that it limits
Speaker 6: you there. But at the same time, maybe it's just
Speaker 6: they clearly value him very highly to be able to
Speaker 6: give up a fourth round.
Speaker 2: I need him to play well in these games, though.
Speaker 4: I need him to play well, because what will happen
Speaker 4: is well, you know we do doesn't No, No, He'll
Speaker 4: still be here and then they'll be the hopium.
Speaker 2: You know, they'll be.
Speaker 4: And and and and you know, one day we're going
Speaker 4: to look back on this this season.
Speaker 2: We're gonna look back. We're going to look back on
Speaker 2: the season, and we're gonna say Okay, what went wrong?
Speaker 2: What went wrong with this? You know?
Speaker 4: And then it's oh, we we misevaluated our own players.
Speaker 4: We misevaluated. We thought, oh, this guy is going to
Speaker 4: have his best season. Oh, this guy's going to do
Speaker 4: his he's gonna his season is going to There were
Speaker 4: too many to me, there were too many times now
Speaker 4: where it was, you know, everybody they thought about probably
Speaker 4: gonna have its best season, probably gonna make that jump probably,
Speaker 4: you know, And then how.
Speaker 2: Many people really really made that jump? So far?
Speaker 4: We haven't seen it, you know, the Mazzie Smith, you know, Mazzi,
Speaker 4: he's gonna make that jump. Well he hasn't, you know.
Speaker 4: But to me, this is where, like I say, the
Speaker 4: running backs, I use the running back situation, Zeke is
Speaker 4: going you know, we got Zeke asin the hole, Zeke
Speaker 4: as in the hole. Maybe we don't have to look
Speaker 4: at some every one of these running backs that he
Speaker 4: and I talked about in the fourth, fifth round have
Speaker 4: come on and played well for teams. You know, they're
Speaker 4: thinking like, well, we've already gotten Zeke. You know, we've
Speaker 4: already got We've got Rico Daddle, We've already got you know,
Speaker 4: please don't be where man, we've got Mingo not going
Speaker 4: to take a look at that receiver because we you know,
Speaker 4: oh this guy's six ' three, that Mingo's just like him.
Speaker 4: Please Mingo play well. But it's still probably gonna happen
Speaker 4: where he'll be here and maybe it'll keep him from
Speaker 4: drafting a receiver that might be bad.
Speaker 6: I don't disagree with you, But at the same time,
Speaker 6: it's like, as we sit here and I'm trying to
Speaker 6: make sense of the decision they made, that's the only
Speaker 6: reasoning that comes to mind why this happens. So it
Speaker 6: is what it is, This is where we're at, and
Speaker 6: this is what we gotta deal with, and none of
Speaker 6: us make those decisions, and we just got to sit
Speaker 6: here and talk about it.
Speaker 2: No, I just that's and you're absolutely right.
Speaker 4: The thing that that just bothers me is that you
Speaker 4: you just sit there and you feel like they put
Speaker 4: so much on their roster of that guy's gonna that
Speaker 4: guy's gonna make the jump, that guy's gonna make the jump,
Speaker 4: that guy's and then you know, they lose depth and
Speaker 4: then now they're expecting all every one of their players
Speaker 4: to make a jump. If you, if you, if I
Speaker 4: went around the room and ask you, guys, what player
Speaker 4: on this team, what players on this team has exceeded
Speaker 4: your expectations?
Speaker 7: Jordan Lewis, there's one for se there's two.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say that's pretty much.
Speaker 2: There's three.
Speaker 5: I don't think Tolver's necessarily exceeded my expectations. I think
Speaker 5: he's been kind of what I expected him to be.
Speaker 2: Other three or four guys then, right, Carl, So where
Speaker 2: was the bar? Right? Exactly?
Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: We didn't go into the season thinking there was going
Speaker 4: to be Aubrey there.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 4: That's that's that's where we're at. That's where we're at.
Speaker 4: There's how many offensive players did you name?
Speaker 2: By the way?
Speaker 4: I mean, So, that's that's what I'm saying here. You know,
Speaker 4: they they put all their eggs into man. Our CAP's
Speaker 4: not very good right now. We've drafted a lot of guys.
Speaker 4: We're gonna they're having to play a lot of young
Speaker 4: guys because they're hurt. Their team's hurt, you know, that's why.
Speaker 4: But they were they were thinking like they were thinking
Speaker 4: all this about their team. In actuality, their team was
Speaker 4: right here. That's that's where the that's where to me
Speaker 4: and then you make a trade, and it's like, maybe
Speaker 4: keeps you from trying to get the team back up
Speaker 4: to hear because you're like, well, Mingo, we got this
Speaker 4: Mingo kid. We liked him coming out, you know, and
Speaker 4: it keeps you from maybe getting a kid from you know,
Speaker 4: from another school that might be a little bit better player.
Speaker 5: Well, the difference is it got a shorter time line
Speaker 5: on this one. It's not going to be like you
Speaker 5: would do and you normally that could be a good
Speaker 5: and a bad thing like you do with a normal
Speaker 5: rookie ye, where you got four years where you got
Speaker 5: to play that out before they get to that contract.
Speaker 5: They got two years to figure this out on this
Speaker 5: kid before he's going to be a free agent. So
Speaker 5: they got to figure out something pretty quick as to
Speaker 5: whether he really is a legitimate player or not.
Speaker 8: I got to give this personnel department credit, and I
Speaker 8: really do respect when people believe in themselves so much
Speaker 8: so that even they continue to believe whenever they've been wrong,
Speaker 8: and with how wrong. At least as it appears so far,
Speaker 8: this twenty twenty three draft class has been for them
Speaker 8: to go right back to that twenty twenty three board
Speaker 8: and be like, no, we still believe in our evaluation
Speaker 8: of that guy and Jonathan Mingo, we want to bring
Speaker 8: him in and spend forth. I think that's a very
Speaker 8: interesting point. This personnel department is still very you know,
Speaker 8: dependent on.
Speaker 2: Either that or you have job security. That's another thing.
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Speaker 6: So for this game, it's a little guess who. I'm
Speaker 6: gonna start off with the quote that I'm going to
Speaker 6: read to you guys, and then if you decide you
Speaker 6: want a clue, I will hand you one and you
Speaker 6: read it aloud. And there's like basically three clues. So
Speaker 6: but you can only ask for one clue.
Speaker 7: So we're guessing the player that's quote. How recent are.
Speaker 6: These let's just say you might lose Okay, so it's
Speaker 6: more than two years?
Speaker 7: Okay, first, Oh, hold on, hold on, one more question.
Speaker 7: Are all these players active?
Speaker 6: Let's just get into it.
Speaker 8: Okay, Okay, Sorry, lord, I'm trying to frame my mind here.
Speaker 6: I don't know. We'll see how this turns out, all right.
Speaker 6: I always said my paths talk, My paths did the talking.
Speaker 6: I don't have to be rambunctious, rambunctious and talk. I
Speaker 6: don't have to say anything.
Speaker 2: It's Michael Parsons. Um it's not. Oh is that how
Speaker 2: we're playing? Do I have to guess like that?
Speaker 6: You just guess? But if I have three clues, three
Speaker 6: more clues. If you guys want a clue, I will
Speaker 6: hand it to you.
Speaker 7: I certainly need a clue.
Speaker 3: Are these you said? It doesn't necessarily have to be
Speaker 3: current players. It doesn't.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, DeMarcus? Where yes? Wow?
Speaker 6: How the heck did you get that?
Speaker 2: Boss?
Speaker 3: I'm very good at knowing things.
Speaker 2: What were the clues? Please? No things?
Speaker 6: One?
Speaker 2: Can you read the clues?
Speaker 6: How did you get that? Though?
Speaker 5: It's not that hard, like if you think about what
Speaker 5: he just said, like that's DeMarcus. DeMarcus is a nice
Speaker 5: guy and everybody always wanted him to be meaner, like
Speaker 5: that's it sounds like something.
Speaker 7: Well, three clues where I'll keep score back.
Speaker 6: None. I'm none for my speed and my power on
Speaker 6: the field from a small town, you knowl buta ima
Speaker 6: my skills were revealed.
Speaker 2: So that's that would have got it. I would have
Speaker 2: given it all right, all right.
Speaker 6: Next one? All right. I never felt comfortable playing dot
Speaker 6: dot dot those first two years. I was fighting for
Speaker 6: my life out there. Then they switched me to dot
Speaker 6: dot dot, where I was a lot more comfortable, and
Speaker 6: from there my career just took off.
Speaker 5: I remember that from a documentary we did. Did you
Speaker 5: get it from a documentary we did?
Speaker 3: I remember that from a documentary?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 15: Is it?
Speaker 7: Drew Pearson?
Speaker 16: No?
Speaker 3: Oh, hold on, okay, let me think who I can
Speaker 3: give you a clue?
Speaker 5: No, hold on, give me a second. So why just
Speaker 5: switch positions.
Speaker 15: That?
Speaker 7: Thanks appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Clue. Yeah, all right, I'll read the clue out loud.
Speaker 2: All right, here we go. Did you pick that one
Speaker 2: for a reason? This is some hard words? Oh? Here
Speaker 2: we go.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: Landry said his performance range from anywhere from spectacular to spectacular.
Speaker 4: He could outmatch anybody's intensity from game to game because
Speaker 4: this is from my era.
Speaker 8: Yeah, we're going like Walt Garrison, like, how back are
Speaker 8: we going?
Speaker 3: It's back, It's back.
Speaker 8: I can't guess anymore that have been Randy White.
Speaker 2: From from linebacker to defensive Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, said, never was never comfortable playing linebacker.
Speaker 7: Imagine that happening today? Like Eric, like, you know what right, it's.
Speaker 5: A different game, different bodies, different different body type.
Speaker 6: All right, the competition is what I love. That makes
Speaker 6: me a lot more tense. Personalities don't enter into it
Speaker 6: at all. My objective is to get the man with
Speaker 6: the ball. Nobody better get in my way.
Speaker 7: My objective is to get the man with the ball.
Speaker 7: Nobody get in my way.
Speaker 2: It's a tank.
Speaker 8: No, I'll take a clue. I didn't run the ball
Speaker 8: or catch it for scores, but when it came to stopping,
Speaker 8: I opened the doors.
Speaker 7: That's a bar. First off, Yeah, is.
Speaker 2: That Moose Johnson?
Speaker 6: Nope? Uh?
Speaker 3: Who is the linebacker?
Speaker 2: Is it a defensive player?
Speaker 7: I think it's a defensive guy.
Speaker 2: Open the door.
Speaker 4: I didn't run the ball or catch it for scores,
Speaker 4: but when it came to stopping, I opened the door.
Speaker 6: I think this last one will give it away completely.
Speaker 8: Well, hold on, say, okay that I kind of thought
Speaker 8: it was like somebody.
Speaker 3: Got a lot of turnovers.
Speaker 5: I would think because they opened the door to scoring.
Speaker 5: So are we talking about?
Speaker 2: Was that Evers non Bland?
Speaker 7: He's never said that. Many words in his entire life
Speaker 7: read from Bryan all right.
Speaker 5: From the sixties to the seventies, I dominated the game
Speaker 5: and earned the nickname that brought me great fame.
Speaker 3: Too tall.
Speaker 2: There's another Minster that's that's that's Randy White.
Speaker 3: Bob Lily.
Speaker 2: Bob Lily.
Speaker 8: Oh okay, probably my favorite cowboy, full time legitimately cowboy.
Speaker 6: Yeahs, you only got two. I just said, I guess,
Speaker 6: but you started throwing names, so you're like, let me
Speaker 6: just guess what that works until going back to the back.
Speaker 2: To the day.
Speaker 5: All right, recounting that for Derk, Yes, we're counting that
Speaker 5: for sure.
Speaker 6: Let's just go through the roster. Yes, a small quote,
Speaker 6: welcome to the Mile High City. And I really am what.
Speaker 7: Does he mean by that?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 3: Hollywood Henderson, Welcome to the Mile High City.
Speaker 8: Pac Man Jones. No, let me get a clue. Let's see,
Speaker 8: I can guess. Okay, before I was a cowboy, I
Speaker 8: played in the South at s m U.
Speaker 7: I opened the playbook's mouth.
Speaker 2: This is Don Meredith.
Speaker 3: Yes, good job, right, all right.
Speaker 7: So you made these little quotes here?
Speaker 3: Of course she did.
Speaker 7: Okay, I'm all confused.
Speaker 8: I was like man, Bob Lily, he was poet.
Speaker 6: Yes, the initial quotes our quotes that I just I thought.
Speaker 7: I never Lily is a wordsmith.
Speaker 6: I'm on the board, Brian's on the board.
Speaker 8: Yeah, this is bad for me.
Speaker 7: History lessons are not great for me, all right. Born
Speaker 7: two thousand, we were.
Speaker 2: Losing eleven games.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, this is the last one. I was small,
Speaker 6: but I was, but I was one that was afraid.
Speaker 6: When you're scared, you can run really fast.
Speaker 7: Mm hmm.
Speaker 6: I was small, scared, but I ran fast.
Speaker 7: No, I'm trying to think of a small player. No,
Speaker 7: mm hmm. Let's see what we got.
Speaker 4: Though I'm often forgotten, my greatness still stands. They love
Speaker 4: to have me now with the ball in my hands.
Speaker 8: So it's a running back. It's a running back. Okay,
Speaker 8: I think that tells.
Speaker 2: The greatness Walter Payton, he was sweetness.
Speaker 7: So he's like a short running back.
Speaker 2: Short running back.
Speaker 7: Julius that big. No, Julius wasn't that big, right. Julies also,
Speaker 7: wasn't there a right But I don't know if he'd
Speaker 7: be saying it'd be better than what they have right
Speaker 7: now with.
Speaker 5: Big Yes, I would take right now, no doubt about it.
Speaker 5: But for that statement, I'm trying to think of the
Speaker 5: best running backs in Cowboy's history. Before the stars in Glory,
Speaker 5: I was the first to show that the Cowboys had
Speaker 5: a back who could who could go toe to toe.
Speaker 7: So he's a running back.
Speaker 6: That confirms the position is running back.
Speaker 7: You didn't help us there this one.
Speaker 3: Was he a fighter?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 6: Was he a this one? Will give it?
Speaker 7: What can you tell us? A decade he played in?
Speaker 6: Here?
Speaker 7: Okay, all right here.
Speaker 6: They will tell you the decade right there?
Speaker 7: Oh okay.
Speaker 8: He was one of the best blocking fullbacks in the league,
Speaker 8: said former teammate Bob Lily.
Speaker 3: Robert Newhouse.
Speaker 5: A fullback that was great. That wasn't Robert Newhouse or
Speaker 5: or Moose.
Speaker 6: That's what the closes said.
Speaker 7: I am Garrison.
Speaker 8: No here, al was making fun of wal Garrison earlier,
Speaker 8: and you don't almost ended up being an answer.
Speaker 6: Poor guy gets forgotten.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's definitely getting forgetting.
Speaker 2: It President.
Speaker 4: No, Bob, Bob Lily, So that would be like into
Speaker 4: the seventies. But that's Robert Newhouse, right.
Speaker 2: New House.
Speaker 3: That's that's why I assumed it was new House.
Speaker 7: But Chucky Withers, I don't know. I'm just saying that.
Speaker 3: Sounds give us an.
Speaker 6: How's the same name as the current president elect.
Speaker 2: Don Donald don oh Don Perkins.
Speaker 3: Yes, Wow, Yes, I would have never there's.
Speaker 7: A lissoner out there that was like he's dumb.
Speaker 2: It was Don Perkins Little, he wasn't big.
Speaker 6: Let me see his side.
Speaker 2: I don't think he was here.
Speaker 7: We go, Yeah Don Perkins.
Speaker 3: Yes, but back in the day like that.
Speaker 5: That was an NFL player, Like yeah, it's not like
Speaker 5: he was out of place.
Speaker 7: Little his first team all uh all pro.
Speaker 2: He's a whole, he's a ring of Yeah.
Speaker 3: He's definitely ring.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Obviously I never saw him play, but.
Speaker 6: Well, I'm glad we got to speak about him today
Speaker 6: because I think his last year was like.
Speaker 2: Nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that before my birth.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well part of history, part of Cowboys history.
Speaker 2: Good job of getting part of history on up front.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought, you know, you got to remember some of.
Speaker 2: The that's important. I lost one. I went for two.
Speaker 2: You didn't get it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Wow, y'all having to know Bryce Perkins, the quarterback
Speaker 8: that's kind of been bounced around a few times in
Speaker 8: the league.
Speaker 7: Last three quarterback. Yeah yeah, it's his great nephew.
Speaker 8: Really yeah, interesting or you know, anyways interesting here.
Speaker 6: All right, Well, thank you guys.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Sheeddy, Thankseddy.
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Speaker 2: Huh, they're giving Austin Eckler the ball.
Speaker 5: Sorry, guys, we've just taken a fantasy football argument onto
Speaker 5: the air and they're trying to decide. They're talking about
Speaker 5: trades here, so we're not going to get into that.
Speaker 3: We'll talk about this off the air.
Speaker 5: Uh, Let's talk about Cowboys versus Eagles. Let's start with it.
Speaker 5: I have some questions for you guys and about the matchup.
Speaker 5: Looking at the Philadelphia offense, what would you say is
Speaker 5: more challenging matchup for Dallas when it comes to stopping
Speaker 5: Philadelphia's passing game, Dallas Goddard or Devonte Smith.
Speaker 4: I think they're gonna look at Smith first, but if
Speaker 4: Dallas continues to show an inability. Now, last week it
Speaker 4: worked out because you moved some cats. Pitts did not
Speaker 4: do much one catch and they actually credited nearest receiver
Speaker 4: was Digs or nearest defender defender was Diggs. If you know,
Speaker 4: if you're the thing that I worry about with with
Speaker 4: Goddard is.
Speaker 2: He does similar things to what you see with Kittle.
Speaker 4: The act like we're blocking, kind of delay and then
Speaker 4: run out in a route or flex out and then
Speaker 4: cross And I do worry about that. But Smith the
Speaker 4: post routes, the drag routes, the crossing routes, the hitch routes.
Speaker 10: It.
Speaker 4: He's a problem and he is going to be a problem.
Speaker 4: But man, I I would I worry about that tied
Speaker 4: end too, because you really this last week you were
Speaker 4: good at it, but previous so that it's been a
Speaker 4: little bit of a struggle.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would go with Smith with the receiver just
Speaker 6: because of how much you struggle with the cornerbacks. And
Speaker 6: I think that's another area that the Eagles can definitely
Speaker 6: try to exploit this weekend. I think with Goddard, like
Speaker 6: because you have kind of more players around you defensively
Speaker 6: in that area, you could potentially get more help where
Speaker 6: you're just not leaving it up to let's say Carson
Speaker 6: or even Digs on his own over there. So I
Speaker 6: think I would slightly put him above as a priority
Speaker 6: for this weekend.
Speaker 7: You asked which one am I scared of more?
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is a more challenging.
Speaker 8: Challenging matchup for Dallas. Okay, I like the Jordan Lewis
Speaker 8: Devonte Smith matchup. I think they will both get some
Speaker 8: wins against each other, but I think I think Lewis
Speaker 8: can hold his own there. I think I worry maybe
Speaker 8: a little bit more about Goddard in the sense that
Speaker 8: you know, I need to see it a little bit
Speaker 8: more than one time against Kyle Pitts, just because that
Speaker 8: George Kittle instance was still two weeks ago. So and
Speaker 8: Goddards had a couple of big games this season.
Speaker 5: So I lean Goddard, which is a more challenging matchup
Speaker 5: from the running game perspective. Saquon Barkley or Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 8: Yes, I uh uh Barkley, I mean, yeah, Barkley. I
Speaker 8: think about Jalen Hurts only in the sense that the
Speaker 8: Cowboys have had issues with quarterbacks escaping the pocket this year.
Speaker 8: I mean, look at Brock Perdy. It made him look
Speaker 8: like Jalen Hurts in that game. And then also, Jalen
Speaker 8: Hurts is playing a lot healthier this year. He's lowering
Speaker 8: his shoulder again, he's fighting for extra yardage. He's a
Speaker 8: tough guy to bring down, like if he was a
Speaker 8: running back, he would be a very difficult task to
Speaker 8: take on week on, weekend and week out. But Saquon
Speaker 8: Barkley has just been unreal. I think he's on a
Speaker 8: pace to be Offensive Player of the Year if he
Speaker 8: if he continues his s pace.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think, uh, when you have a running back
Speaker 6: that's been so successful, you don't you're not forced to
Speaker 6: having to rely or put your quarterback in a position
Speaker 6: where you need him to be scaping or running for
Speaker 6: his life or trying to get out of the pocket
Speaker 6: and doing all that and using his running game. I
Speaker 6: think we'll see some of that because that just adds
Speaker 6: to the game and it's been a challenge for Cowboys
Speaker 6: defense to stop mobile quarterbacks. But with Saquon, you don't
Speaker 6: need any of that. He can handle that job and
Speaker 6: do it all himself. I think I would put him
Speaker 6: as number one, but obviously you cannot not pay attention
Speaker 6: to hers either.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: My biggest fear was that Barkley was going to go
Speaker 4: much like McCaffrey leaving Carolina, who's always banged up, and
Speaker 4: then he goes well, he goes to San Francisco and
Speaker 4: then he has Now he's banged up again. But he's
Speaker 4: had some years of some good health, and now here's Barkley.
Speaker 4: He's getting looks like his health. Usually when the Cowboys
Speaker 4: play Barkley, he's been banged up or he gets banged
Speaker 4: up in the game. You know, So I kind of
Speaker 4: he's the one that scares me because of just Dallas's
Speaker 4: a bill to really set that edge and play play
Speaker 4: really good run defense.
Speaker 5: All right, let's get to some picks here. What do
Speaker 5: you think is gonna happen this weekend? Cowboys versus Eagles.
Speaker 7: Hmm, I've had this weird gat feeling.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pick the Cowboys, aren't you.
Speaker 7: I've had this weird gat too.
Speaker 2: I have too.
Speaker 8: I think the Cowboys get it done. I have no reason,
Speaker 8: yeah to give you why. I just think they get
Speaker 8: it done. I think they rally around Cooper Rush. I
Speaker 8: think Michael Parson's coming back will be able to help
Speaker 8: them in the past Rush for some reason. And look,
Speaker 8: they could get beat by thirty on Sunday, but hey,
Speaker 8: I'm seven to one on the year. I'm gonna maybe
Speaker 8: we can take some chances here. I think the Cowboys win, right,
Speaker 8: I think they do right.
Speaker 4: I want I mean seriously, I mean Philadelphia is you
Speaker 4: know me, Philadelphia is gonna win this game. It's gonna
Speaker 4: be thirty one to uh, It's gonna be thirty one
Speaker 4: to twenty one. I think they're gonna probably beat.
Speaker 2: Him by ten.
Speaker 6: Unprofessional and totally biased opinion, But no matter what, you
Speaker 6: will never catch me. And I hope I haven't said
Speaker 6: that in the past. But I'm just not picking the Eagles.
Speaker 6: I'm not picking them, even if they are currently in
Speaker 6: a better spot than the Cowboys. If I'm not picking
Speaker 6: the Eagles, and you never know, I want to see
Speaker 6: what Cooper Rush can do in this offense, and I
Speaker 6: want to see if Mike McCarthy can't adjust his playbook
Speaker 6: and see what that looks like. But this week, I
Speaker 6: am definitely not picking the Eagles.
Speaker 8: Okay, can I give you some real hashtag analysis from
Speaker 8: my thought and this team. They have clawed back into
Speaker 8: games in the fourth quarter the last two weeks. If
Speaker 8: they can just play solid coming out of the half,
Speaker 8: this is a team that can still be capable of
Speaker 8: beating anybody in the league. You look at the third
Speaker 8: quarters and losses, You look at the Ravens third quarter,
Speaker 8: you look at the forty nine or third quarter of
Speaker 8: the Falcons. Those are three games right there where if
Speaker 8: you just play average football you have a chance at
Speaker 8: winning those games. You go from three to five potentially
Speaker 8: to the six and two type of outcome. Yes, you
Speaker 8: don't have your quarterback in this situation, but the Eagles
Speaker 8: haven't seen that quarterback in two years either, So I
Speaker 8: I do feel like there's playing well in.
Speaker 7: The third quarter.
Speaker 2: Make sure it will keep you in this.
Speaker 8: Sick Sirianni will keep you in the game. That is,
Speaker 8: that is always a fact.
Speaker 5: All right, I appreciate you guys. Jonas will be back
Speaker 5: on Monday.
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, yeah, Cowboys.
Speaker 5: I'm like Ambro, like, there's no way I will ever
Speaker 5: pick the Eagles forteen.
Speaker 3: I know, absolutely never picked the Eagles anything.
Speaker 2: I hate that somebody on the shows.
Speaker 3: That's fine, go for it.
Speaker 5: I make lots of the points, but when it comes
Speaker 5: to I ain't never picking the clip that.
Speaker 7: So when the Cowboys went on Monday being we could.
Speaker 4: Play this weird thing, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: I'm like, you know, like I ain't doing that.
Speaker 2: Pat McAfee, get me Alabama.
Speaker 7: You know they're using your brain.
Speaker 2: It's right.
Speaker 5: I appreciate you guys joining us back on money will
Speaker 5: take you right it wrong for the Cowboys. So that
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