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Speaker 1: So the party's dying down, and I grab Chan Gaily

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Speaker 2: And he goes, are you pointing at the cheese plate

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Speaker 2: or Brie Larson? I said, Chanty, I got no idea.

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Speaker 3: That's coach Chanfalo bit Hey. Welcome to Hollywood Handbook, an

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Speaker 3: insider's guide to kicking butt and dropping names in the

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Speaker 3: red carpet lined back hallways of this industry we call showbiz.

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Speaker 3: And what up? What up to all of you? And

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Speaker 4: And and what up?

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Speaker 3: What up?

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Speaker 4: From me as well?

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Speaker 2: And I'm hoping for your health and your happiness, and

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Speaker 2: I want to keep a positive energy going today.

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Speaker 3: Well, the truth about my health you can see it

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Speaker 3: to play Sammy Sosa in the new the Bio sixty one.

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Speaker 3: In the new sixty one, it's called sixty one two seventy.

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Speaker 2: And it looks it looks strange on the poster because

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Speaker 3: There is an asterisk, but it's kind of off to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's of course about Sammy Sosa in nineteen

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Speaker 2: so Hayes is gonna he's trying to get to America. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's gonna portray that struggle in that journey and you

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Speaker 3: And it is you know, like people say, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there is a lot of fakeness. And my friends

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Speaker 3: It's you know, it means you're trying to do something,

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Speaker 3: you're actually working on it, you're not just settling for

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Speaker 2: If nothing was fake, we all would literally be born

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Speaker 2: It would be like wid what that movie Surrogates maybe

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Speaker 4: Walking's fake? Talking to people's fake.

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Speaker 2: The telephone's a fakeused invention in history, and that is

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Speaker 4: And that's the truth.

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Speaker 2: And I think speaking of not knowing what things mean

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Speaker 2: truth in the face. Recently, about a week ago, my

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Speaker 2: Hashtag trending ah, and you probably know what we're talking about.

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Speaker 4: The yes all women yeah pound sign hashtag.

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Speaker 3: Very sobering for us to read a lot of stories,

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Speaker 4: We might get attacked.

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Speaker 2: Could there be a greater supportive action, a greater compliment,

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Speaker 3: Just weigh it in here.

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Speaker 2: And if you had mentioned this, we really could have

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Speaker 3: Why teasers, Teasers, teasers. Everybody's talking about teasers, and that's

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Speaker 2: Okay, So it's teasers are commercials for movies. When somebody

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Speaker 3: And so that's why we are doing the teaser Freezer,

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Speaker 2: We're not gonna get hurt or get frostbite because we

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Speaker 4: Them out, look at them and show them to you.

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Speaker 3: But it is good to don't try anything with your

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Speaker 2: Setting of a cinema place, you can find teasers there

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Speaker 2: And so that's what makes this a segment and we're

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Speaker 3: And the teaser for this week is Jersey Boys, which

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Speaker 2: Loved the musical and I'm gonna love the musical movie.

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Speaker 3: It's about these four guys and they sing songs and

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Speaker 2: And why has no one ever taken something from the

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Speaker 3: I don't know Cody, why because.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's just do It makes me want to throw

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Speaker 3: But every legend has a beginning.

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Speaker 5: If you want to hit a real story, I'm the

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Speaker 5: one you want to talk to, Tommy.

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Speaker 2: The veto wasn't for me.

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Speaker 5: We all would have wound up with a bullet on

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Speaker 3: So you can't see this.

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Speaker 3: That is that line, that the opening line of the

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Speaker 2: He's looking and we know this because we've been done movies.

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Speaker 3: And so you see him looking at you, and you

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Speaker 2: On the screen has just been seen by a camera.

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Speaker 3: And you everything that you are and your eyes are seeing.

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Speaker 2: And the camera man's eyes are also holding what is

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Speaker 3: Anyway. His name is Tommy DeVito and he is I

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Speaker 2: Let's find out Discovery of Mind, Frankie Valley, cream Flies.

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Speaker 4: I heard them all, but I never heard a voice

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Speaker 3: Thank you again.

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Speaker 2: He's taking this right to you. There's nobody else in

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Speaker 4: And I feel like I'm a Jersey boys.

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Speaker 2: He's this guy is talented, he's a great singer, but Hayes,

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Speaker 3: He is absolutely no Frankie. And it just goes to

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Speaker 3: I mean I am sure that's the best they could do.

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Speaker 2: Well no, and if they do ask you, you can

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Speaker 3: So you've got the voice, I got the songs. We

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Speaker 4: I think Frankie Tommy loose right, Then that's what you think.

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Speaker 3: You're not from Jersey? Wow?

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Speaker 3: You know Jersey. If you're from Jersey, then you know

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Speaker 6: If you do that, then you gotta be from somebody

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Speaker 6: the Jersey boys are intact. They catch you doing that

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Speaker 3: Go see that movie. It looks fun, it's very polite.

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Speaker 3: It does things the way they used to do them

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Speaker 2: And I guess that's what I'm most excited about, is

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Speaker 2: saying thank you, Tommy, that's interesting. I agree that the

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Speaker 2: So I would say, please do go and please do

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Speaker 3: We have a great guest. John Cochrane, the winner of Survivorman,

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Speaker 3: going to talk about it all on Hollywood Handbook, Hollywood Handbook.

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Speaker 3: So we go to Gary Sonise like Edge of Tomorrow,

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Speaker 3: Like what is it? It's like a Tomorrow's like a day.

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Speaker 3: who was Jesson Sean Hollywood?

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Speaker 2: Who?

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Speaker 4: I never heard of it?

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Speaker 2: Hi?

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Speaker 3: Hey, what up?

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Speaker 2: Hey?

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Speaker 4: Hey wait?

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Speaker 3: What up?

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Hollywood. I'm looking at Insider's Guide to kicking

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Speaker 4: We got a guess.

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Speaker 3: We got a great guest here today. John Cochran is here.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 3: Guys, Yes, no, it's a pleasure for us to have

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Speaker 3: people would hear that you're on here and say, well,

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Speaker 3: you're not famous, but you actually are famous.

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Speaker 5: Right, I'm exceptionally famous.

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Speaker 3: Because you won a TV show.

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Speaker 5: I won a TV show watched by millions of people. Yes,

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Speaker 5: I have one hundred and thirty two thousand Twitter followers.

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Speaker 5: I'm verified on Twitter.

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Speaker 3: That's huge.

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Speaker 5: I feel like that's evidence enough of my fame.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and you were on the show before that too, Right,

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Speaker 4: Had two different seasons, so they didn't see the season

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have a lot more followers than a lot

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Speaker 5: They're almost exclusively like really old women and like little kids.

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Speaker 2: It's but but more followers than a lot of people

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Speaker 3: They don't they don't measure. They don't say, like when

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Speaker 2: That's like not a click. It's still a click more

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Speaker 4: And these are people who've really done a lot more

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Speaker 3: Actually and worked very hard to do it more than

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Speaker 2: Yeah, more followers the DC And meanwhile d C has

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Speaker 2: Let's and you're here with all these followers.

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Speaker 3: Do you think he has more than Nick Thune? I

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Speaker 3: more followers than nickton? I? Bet? I? Bet I? Do

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Speaker 3: you do you have a lot more? Do you have

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Speaker 2: Boom, I don't know what I'm referring to, but I

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Speaker 3: So all these people who are saying you're not famous,

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Speaker 3: I just don't understand where they're coming from. You're very famous.

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Speaker 2: That's what I think now, Contran, we have a kind

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Speaker 3: To talk about more than Shelby Farrow, who is famous

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Speaker 2: Right, So Twitter celebrities have fewer Twitter followers than you.

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Speaker 4: You you find that that hard to believe.

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Speaker 2: I was saying that telling the other people that you

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Speaker 5: Who were.

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Speaker 2: And you're a little down on yourself when you came in,

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Speaker 2: I mean, let's pull back the curtain. You said, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm famous enough to do this show.

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Speaker 3: And you had sort of a hang dog expression.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you were kind of kicking at the ground

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Speaker 2: a little bit, sort of most big and we just

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Speaker 2: So here's the thing. It's not just that you won

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Speaker 3: That's not why we're having you here. We wanted you

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Speaker 3: to talk about other.

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Speaker 2: Stuff because this is a show that aims to educate

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Speaker 4: Huh.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 5: I'm a writer for the Millers on CBS. Will Arnett site.

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Speaker 4: Where the Millers starrying?

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Speaker 5: Will I don't know, I gotta stop pranis I gotta

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Speaker 2: I got it. Just blow right by and just get

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Speaker 4: Where the Millers it's a big TV show.

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Speaker 2: A guy gets bit on the dick by a tarantula

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Speaker 4: In the commercial, it looks.

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Speaker 2: Really good and I think that you're gonna love it,

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Speaker 2: go rent it.

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Speaker 5: You can watch it on TV on CBS.

445
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 2: Maybe it's on demand or something, and it's definitely on Netflix,

446
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 2: and so when you watch it, think, oh, John Cochran

447
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 2: actually wrote, you know, probably this scene where Jason Sudekus

448
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 2: is dealing with immigration or whatever at the border.

449
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 3: So Jennifer Anston she gets she's like pours water all

450
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 3: over herself and then it creates this sort of affect

451
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 3: And was that your idea? Where it makes her clothes

452
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 3: tantalizingly body in this way.

453
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 2: That is disgusting to me. It's like, why would you

454
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 2: want your clothes to stick? They should be loose and flowing.

455
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 2: But all that aside. The way a lot of people

456
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 2: get a job writing on a TV show like Where

457
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 2: The Miller's or Hall Pass.

458
00:24:54,960 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 4: Or what else? Bosses Horrible Boss is a great example.

459
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 6: Uh.

460
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 2: I mean, a lot of people get that is they

461
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 2: right to do it right, Yeah, which I feel like

462
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 2: is probably not the best way to do it.

463
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 5: I speak, I didn't write. So to give a little background,

464
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 5: a year ago, I was a law student at Harvard

465
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 5: Law School in Boston, just outside the Boston Oh And

466
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 5: and I was on yeah, as you said, on the

467
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 5: reality show Survivor twice and I won. And I'd never

468
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 5: written a word. I didn't even write in law school.

469
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 5: I'm like, always been kind of a verse to writing.

470
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 5: You wanted to be a judge ideally, I wanted to

471
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 5: be a judge, a.

472
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 4: TV judge like Judge Joe Brown or something like that.

473
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, more, I mean, yeah, probably more like Judge Mathis

474
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 5: was my big inspiration.

475
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 4: That's more your area.

476
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 3: Who's that?

477
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 5: It's just it's another it's another TV judge. Mills Lane

478
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 5: was actually Mills Lane somebody. He's the boxing referee that

479
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 5: became which is a kind of judge.

480
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 3: But he was also because you're saying who wins and

481
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 3: who loses? Right, and isn't that what judging is and

482
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 3: what is the rules?

483
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 4: He was also technically a judge, like a legal judge.

484
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 4: The judge is there to uphold the rules.

485
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 5: Right, So I I that was my goal, but just

486
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 5: kind of as a joke, just a little gag. On

487
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 5: the Survivor Union show, the host of the show, Jeff Probes,

488
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 5: said like, so what you just want to survive or

489
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 5: what do you want to do next? And I was

490
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 5: just kind of being sarcastic. I'm like, oh, you know,

491
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 5: it would be great to write, you know. And it's

492
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 5: like after achieving this like incredible fame and notoriety and

493
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 5: wealth from Survivor, I'm like, Okay, I would be the

494
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 5: most like degrading thing to say I do want to do.

495
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, like basically going like, oh, I guess I'd like

496
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: to eat a pilot dog shit, you know, Like that's

497
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 2: basically you wish you'd said, like I'd like to have sex.

498
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 3: Right. It's like with like Sidney Crawford.

499
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, Cindy Craft would be the best, uh yeah, or

500
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 5: like Jennifer Tilley or something yes with her boo, but

501
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 5: no as inn for Fortunately, I did say as a joke,

502
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 5: I want to be a writer. And then a day later,

503
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 5: I guess my sarcasmo was lost on the nation because

504
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 5: a day later Greg Garcia, the guy that created Raising

505
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 5: Hope and my Name Israel, called up CBS, and I

506
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 5: guess thought I was serious and I was like, oh,

507
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 5: I thought I thought this John Cochran guy was funny

508
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 5: and would he like to meet with me to possibly

509
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 5: write for the Millers And I'm out with him, and uh,

510
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 5: you know, one thing led to another and then I

511
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 5: ended up becoming a writer for this one thing led

512
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 5: to another. I mean, I'm just saying very logistically, it

513
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 5: was like one thing, like a phone call, led to

514
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 5: me like getting an uber ride to his house, which

515
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 5: led to a conversation.

516
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 2: Now, when you have that conversation with Greg Garcia, is

517
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 2: he does he already does he have the bones of

518
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 2: it figured out? Does he just go like, I've got

519
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 2: this idea tarantula bite dude.

520
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 4: Stick, bite dude, stick.

521
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: He's gonna like jump out the r V And then

522
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: he wants you to pitch on how big tarantula could

523
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: be or is it more he has the title.

524
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 5: During this initial meeting, Yeah, I didn't hear that much

525
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 5: talk about the tarantula stuff. It was more about like

526
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 5: a divorced couple and parents moving in. It's possible earlier

527
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 5: drafts the script had this tarantula bit you're referring to again, I.

528
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 4: Kind of bite, right, I kind of tried.

529
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 5: What did I say? I was saying bit as in

530
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 5: like like, uh.

531
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 3: Just the tenses.

532
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I have a yeah, but again I kind

533
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 5: of think bit sorry, ye the dude.

534
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 4: Taranula?

535
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 5: Okay, sorry, but again, I think you're referring to where

536
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 5: the Miller's which I can understand the confusion because like

537
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 5: two thirds of the where the Miller's title is the

538
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 5: exact title to show I'm writing for. But there actually

539
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 5: there's no connection between the two of them, apart from

540
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 5: the fact that there was writing involved in both their creations.

541
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 5: But I had nothing to do with the the Tarantula.

542
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 2: Film now parents moving back in?

543
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 4: Have anybody ever thought of that?

544
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 3: Did that happen to you?

545
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

546
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 4: Where'd you get that idea?

547
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 5: Again, I'm just I'm like a low level writer on

548
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 5: the show. I was not the person that can.

549
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,479
Speaker 2: See Okay, are you going to make us list all

550
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: the people? You got more Twitter followers? Then again, because Quinn,

551
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: you know, downplaying it well.

552
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 5: So I have a I think what what Greg was

553
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 5: attracted to in me was that I have a very

554
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 5: close relationship with my mother. She doesn't live with me,

555
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 5: but there was nice parallels between that and the show

556
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 5: premise of The Parents Hotel, Right, I mean so yeah, yeah,

557
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 5: I don't think she's Yeah, I mean, I mean the

558
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 5: Miller's is like mainly like a comedy. It's a sitcom.

559
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 5: So it's not like I feel like you're referring to Psycho,

560
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 5: the Alfred Hitchcock.

561
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 4: Well, the A and E's Baits motel. Oh oh oh oh,

562
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 4: tell us about.

563
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 3: Your scary mom.

564
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 5: I mean she's she's sixty five years old. She used

565
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 5: to be a preschool teacher and she and she fosters

566
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 5: dogs for a rescue.

567
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 3: Just spooky sounds. Yeah, just a scary wind. That was that?

568
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 5: What was that?

569
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 2: Cord?

570
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 3: Mom?

571
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 7: Like that's a head right, tu It was a two

572
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 7: week at the end.

573
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 4: It was like one of those whistle rings.

574
00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

575
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: What do you and your mom tell me chocolate? Oh no,

576
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 3: it's not sweet enough.

577
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 4: So, you know, some scary stuff like that.

578
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 5: My mom and I talk about At this point, she's

579
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 5: on the East coast, I'm on the West coast. I

580
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 5: call to catch up with her. I'm refurnishing my apartment now,

581
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 5: so I've been calling to get some advice from her,

582
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 5: and she was helping me with like accent pillows and

583
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 5: stuff because I might color blind, which is another one

584
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 5: of my issues. Right, yeah, I mean I feel like

585
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 5: you're probably like, I think you're imputing a lot of

586
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 5: traits to my mom that she really doesn't have. Like

587
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 5: she's like a perfectly pleasant lady. She has no like

588
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 5: murderous impulses.

589
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: I won't to help you pick your sheets.

590
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 4: That's actually pretty accurate.

591
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 3: But you know, she's a perfect She isn't feeling well.

592
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 3: Mother isn't feeling so well, but right now and her

593
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 3: head is let's call.

594
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean this is like, I mean, she's she's

595
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 5: actually feeling quite well. She's seeing a personal trainer now

596
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 5: and she's trying to get in better shape.

597
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 4: Is her head as a skull though, I mean like

598
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 4: she still has a skull, but her body is really

599
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 4: a skelington. I mean you.

600
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 5: Correct me early on the use of bit versus bite,

601
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 5: which I think was an not necessary correction. I do

602
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 5: have to point out that you keep saying both of

603
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 5: you actually are saying Skellington instead of skeleton. And is

604
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 5: that from the nightmare before Christmas?

605
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 3: Was his name Jack skelling Skellington is like bones, but

606
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 3: it's a bone man that will jump around and make

607
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 3: clattering dances.

608
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 5: That's not especially frightening though, right, I feel like that's

609
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 5: like a form of entertainment.

610
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,239
Speaker 3: Have you ever seen that before? If you saw the

611
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: bone dancing bones.

612
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 4: I've seen like animeate gifts.

613
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 3: You don't think that's for frightening.

614
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 4: I mean it's kind of okay.

615
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 3: Well maybe I guess because you're like every night you

616
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 3: go to sleep with your bone mom.

617
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 5: I mean, I think you're really going off in a

618
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 5: different direction with his mom stuff that it's not at

619
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 5: all accurate about. It's not an accurate description.

620
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 4: Well, it's actually is based on what you said.

621
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 2: And so when you're writing TV with your mom in

622
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 2: a rocking chair together or whatever.

623
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 4: Right, do you.

624
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 2: Reflect on all the different stunts that you tried before

625
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 2: Survivor and to get to get recognized by this town.

626
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, to get famous in Hollywood, we do reminisce a

627
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 5: lot because you know, as you pointed out, my path

628
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 5: to Hollywood has not been the traditional like write a specscript,

629
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 5: write a pilot, become a you know, writer's pa, and

630
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 5: right become a writer's assistant. It was kind of unconventional path, right,

631
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 5: you know, which Ultimately CULTI culminated in me being on

632
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 5: Survivor and achieving success through that. But it started off

633
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 5: with a lot more kind of outlandish stunts that we're

634
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 5: not always as successful.

635
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you do you want to speak on that.

636
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 3: When you I remember when you tried to be the

637
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 3: subway hero in order to get on TV and you

638
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 3: got quite a shock, an electric shock, right.

639
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 5: I mean I wasn't like I had spent some time

640
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 5: in New York, and so, you know, I thought, what's

641
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 5: the most viral way to get recognized. It's to be

642
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 5: in Manhattan, to be in the heart of the city.

643
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 5: And where are a lot of people the subway If

644
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 5: you go there, it's pack jam packed people. Who knows

645
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 5: whether there's a television executive among those people on the train?

646
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 5: Odds are that there is one, right, And so I

647
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 5: I saw some you know this, this young kid, this

648
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 5: punk kid, was sitting in the seat that's designated for

649
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 5: people that would be like, you know, handicapped. There's and

650
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 5: you know what, do you know? This old lady comes

651
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 5: pottering in and yeah, which is actually an act. I mean,

652
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 5: you were saying that my mom's just a skeleton presumably

653
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 5: incapable of any sort of movement unless she's a Scaling.

654
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 5: I actually know if she's a Skelington, then she would

655
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 5: be able to, you know, do a little dance in there.

656
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 4: That's bones. Yeah.

657
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 5: But no, I saw this lady, this lady coming and

658
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 5: the kid did not even.

659
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 4: Van Helsing's chasing her.

660
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean this is like the old lady just

661
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 5: was you know, she was had a walker. I don't

662
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 5: think there was a van Helston chasing her.

663
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 3: It's possible Van Helsing. There's more than one.

664
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 4: Go on, go on, please.

665
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 5: And so this kid didn't not for the seat, and

666
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 5: I got in his face and said, mind your manners, kid,

667
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 5: get up and forfeit the seat to the the lady.

668
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 5: And he said, you're not my dad, and that lady

669
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 5: isn't my mom. So you know, this is a free country.

670
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 5: And I said, I got this seat on my own.

671
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 5: And then he pulled out at you know, you kind

672
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 5: of gave way the ending to this. He said, I

673
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 5: got quite a shock, which is a chapp and he

674
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 5: had a backpack on and he reached into it and

675
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 5: I thought he was going to pull out, you know,

676
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 5: a gun or something, but fortunately it was just a taser.

677
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 3: Which is like an electric gun.

678
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he tased me and the lady. And you know,

679
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 5: there was no television executive nearby to capture this m

680
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 5: and my heroic act went completely uncelebrated.

681
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 2: And you even said and you said that, you said,

682
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: don't taste me bro right, And that didn't get captured.

683
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 5: Either, And that predated the now like by a lot,

684
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 5: by a lot several years.

685
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 2: Speaking of New York, I remember when you try to

686
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 2: fly a helicopter into the Statue of Liberty.

687
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that was first off, this is pre

688
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 5: nine eleven. So I don't want to make it sound

689
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 5: like this is like some insensitive.

690
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 3: Or that you were copying.

691
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 4: No, I don't completely original idea.

692
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 3: It was before those other guys did it.

693
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 5: Right, And my motive was completely My motive was to

694
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 5: get a writing job in Hollywood. It was not to

695
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 5: naturally hurt anybody, because you know, the Statue of Liberty

696
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 5: is not inhabited.

697
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 4: I aimed at the bottom. You were aiming for her feet.

698
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 5: Right, I wanted to Yeah, I was aiming for the

699
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 5: I was not doing a big theatrical hole at the

700
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 5: top of the Statue of Liberty or I just wanted to.

701
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 5: I wanted to go right into the feet, and I,

702
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 5: you know, I rented the helicopter, did some training, but

703
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 5: it turns out that like I really didn't know how

704
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 5: to maneuver it that well. So I actually just landed

705
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 5: safely by the Statue of Liberty's feet and offered some

706
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 5: tourists like a helicopter view of the Statue of Liberty.

707
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 2: And then you did that job for the next ten

708
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 2: to fifteen years, right where you're just flying people.

709
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 5: Right, I got I got caught in. I got caught up,

710
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 5: caught up into it, trying every time to right every

711
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 5: time I f every time I flew to Ellis Island,

712
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 5: I was trying to go into the feet. But I

713
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 5: safely landed perfectly next to like a line of tours

714
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 5: almost every time. And then you know, they got on

715
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 5: as you would if you know, And and I became

716
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 5: a you know, a healthy career, but not one that

717
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 5: I found that fulfilling.

718
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 2: Now, these kinds of stunts and doing Survivor as well,

719
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 2: isn't that a better way to get a writing job

720
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: than like a lot of people try to do it

721
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 2: With writing.

722
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 5: It's better in that it's faster and requires very little

723
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 5: effort what it does, and you.

724
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 3: Get a million dollars before you do the other thing.

725
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you get like famous and people love you

726
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 5: and you get a bunch of money.

727
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

728
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 5: The thing is you have to be special, you have

729
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 5: to be an exceptional person.

730
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 4: And going to Harvard you got a bunch of money anyway.

731
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 5: Huh right, I did not need the additional millionaire. This

732
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 5: was just adding you know, it's a it's a penny

733
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 5: dropping the bucket, what a joke?

734
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 3: What how much is a judge bringing in these days?

735
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,959
Speaker 4: It depends if it's a it's a television judge.

736
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 5: I judge Judy got like a five year, two hundred

737
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 5: million dollars deal. A local district judge would probably be

738
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 5: making significantly less five five figures or something six figures?

739
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 4: How much does judge On Hodgman make.

740
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 5: Judge John Hodgman, I'm not sure we could check celebrity net.

741
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 4: Worth and maybe a podcast?

742
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 3: Judge a podcast? Is that? Is that his job? Yes?

743
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 5: I don't see there being that big a market for that,

744
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 5: so I can't imagine he's making that much money.

745
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 4: Okay, thanks?

746
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 2: Now, isn't it true when people write all they have

747
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 2: afterwards is just a stack of paper and it's not

748
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 2: even money paper, right.

749
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's one of the misconceptions. Some people think that

750
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 5: you write a script and once you once you type

751
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 5: in that, once you put the D on the end,

752
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 5: that it just materializes until you see the Miller's on

753
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 5: TV or you see one of these celebrated shows. It's

754
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 5: in fact a much more drawn up prosprate to submit

755
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 5: the script to people and get an agent and have

756
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 5: it shuttled around. I didn't write a word, you know.

757
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 5: I didn't write a single word of comedy writing before

758
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 5: I got my job. And that's the way to go.

759
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 5: The money comes after you get the job.

760
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 3: It was pretty funny on Survivor when you called that

761
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 3: Filipino guy Gollum, right, because he was like culturally different, Yeah,

762
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 3: because he wore like a little cloth and he was

763
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 3: like kind of scampering around. Then he talked at a

764
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 3: funny boy.

765
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 4: Oh yes, and the words. I don't know about those

766
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 4: words because I wasn't.

767
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 5: Familiar with his.

768
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 3: So you said, do the impression, and so you said

769
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 3: he was like a little monster. Oh that was pretty funny.

770
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 2: That was good, And I thought I could see this

771
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 2: being on where the Millers maybe you know, spider bites

772
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 2: dude's dick, and then he could be like look at

773
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: that column and then like a Filipino guys, you know,

774
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 2: doing whatever they do.

775
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 3: And also how you were talking about how he was

776
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 3: going to think of the hugs he got from the

777
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 3: female cast members and masturbate to them later.

778
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 2: Right, because he was a little, well hug from a big,

779
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 2: tall white woman. I mean imagine it's like not even

780
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 2: It's like it must be for him like when the Indians.

781
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 2: Do you know this story of when the Indians first

782
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: saw the ships coming over Columbus ships they couldn't see them,

783
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 2: you know, because they had no context for a man

784
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 2: made structure that big, so they just couldn't pross it.

785
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 2: So for him, a big, tall white woman leaning in

786
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: for a hug, I mean, you're right, I don't even

787
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 2: know if it's masturbatory material as much as it's like

788
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: and not a body experience.

789
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 5: Speak on that, right, I mean, I I guess that

790
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 5: I it might have been a little bit culturally inappropriate

791
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 5: to compare him to Gollum. It had nothing to do

792
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 5: with the facts.

793
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 3: This was a guy.

794
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 5: It was a Filipino man, right, So say I get

795
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 5: some context. This was you win rewards on Survivor, and

796
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 5: one of the rewards we won was a local. They

797
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 5: called him like a woodsman or bushman sorry, bushman, sorry

798
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 5: a bushman who who who came and visited our camp

799
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 5: to help improve it, because you know, we're building our

800
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 5: own shelter and stuff, and he helped renovate our shelter

801
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 5: and everything.

802
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 3: He was trying to help.

803
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 5: He was trying to help. And I repaid that offer

804
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 5: by suggesting that his very cultural background made him sexually

805
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 5: not in control of himself and compared him to like

806
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 5: a greedy, monstrous goblin from fantasy novels.

807
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 3: And you said that he was going to jerk off later, right,

808
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 3: because he got.

809
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 5: Because I imagine he's kind of animalistic and can't control

810
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 5: himself that if he's exposed to an attractive woman, he

811
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 5: can't help but immediately internalize that and use it for

812
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 5: masturbation material.

813
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 4: Yes, should we get into the popcorn galry.

814
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 3: Yes, let's play the song. This is a segment, and

815
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 3: we're going to talk during the song, Yescorn.

816
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 2: The song is describing a segment we do on our show,

817
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:36,720
Speaker 2: Corn Gallery.

818
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 3: And that was the first he says the name of

819
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 3: the song. He says, it's a segment on the show,

820
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 3: and the way it works is we get questions from

821
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 3: our listeners, one of which is the person who was

822
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 3: actually singing the.

823
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 2: Song made the song to try to clarify that the forum,

824
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: the listeners are writing in questions to ask and so

825
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 2: they are in effect the popcorn gallery.

826
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 3: Which is like the peanut gall but we use popcorn

827
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 3: because popcorn.

828
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 4: Is if you go to We're the Miller's.

829
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 2: So if you know, or even if you're watching it

830
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 2: at home, you might heat up some nice.

831
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 5: Transcript is the lyrics, because I feel like your discussion

832
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 5: rendered the fact that it was clarifying the purpose of

833
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 5: the segment. It rendered the song lyrics.

834
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 4: No, there's no transcript.

835
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 2: So we have explained it, and if you could just

836
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: explain it back to us quickly, we'll know that you've

837
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 2: got it.

838
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 5: Uh, it's a it's a segment, I guess where people

839
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 5: submit questions.

840
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 2: Stop never mind, We're gonna get into the questions and

841
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 2: hopefully you can just deal with them and just not

842
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 2: know exactly what you're participating in. Because this is a

843
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 2: nightmare so far.

844
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 3: Let's reach into the bag and we'll pull out a question.

845
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 3: We just have so many.

846
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 5: My prescience. Dear.

847
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 3: Yes, this is a question from Skiezelo John Googling. You

848
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 3: got me to a blog on hair parting, which describes

849
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 3: you as the most quote powerful example of the way

850
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 3: the right part on the wrong person can lead to

851
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 3: a personality that is almost completely disliked by the peer group. Uno,

852
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 3: how do you respond?

853
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: Uh?

854
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 3: Never? Are you familiar with this blogs?

855
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 4: I've seen this, Yeah.

856
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 3: The blogs, it is real.

857
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 5: And then I yeah, and I did some research and

858
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 5: it does see I part my hair on the right side.

859
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 5: I mean, I feel like one side of my face

860
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 5: is actually significantly less attract than on the other side

861
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 5: of my face. So I put my hair to cover

862
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 5: the side of my face it's less attractive. So I

863
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 5: feel like I get the power thing that it's talking about,

864
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 5: But it's just from a practical thing of wanting to

865
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 5: cover the unattractive side of me as much as possible.

866
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 3: The actual quote is, was there ever any more powerful

867
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 3: example of the way the right part on the wrong

868
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 3: person could lead to personality that is almost completely disliked

869
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 3: by the peer group.

870
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, first, like, the thing is I won

871
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 5: a reality show that requires social graces and making people

872
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 5: like me I want unanimously. Shouldn't that Why should the

873
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 5: fact that my hair is part of the one side

874
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 5: be more evidence of my social miscalibration? And the fact

875
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 5: that the fact that I won over people and have

876
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 5: a ton of Twitter followers? Isn't that better evidence that

877
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 5: I'm like, actually likable?

878
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 4: We don't know, And that's why it's a question.

879
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 3: Was ever more powerful example, and it is almost completely

880
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 3: disliked by the peer.

881
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 5: Group, right, I mean, I just have to disagree with

882
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 5: that assessment. I feel like I'm pretty well liked.

883
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 2: But you agree to the premise that your hair part

884
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 2: has created your personality.

885
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 5: I agree that there might be like a correlation between

886
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 5: hair part and the way somebody's perceived. I don't think

887
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 5: there's a causal connection.

888
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 3: But can you argue with the pictures underneath the blog

889
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 3: that show what you would look like with your hair

890
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 3: parted on the other side? Look at that?

891
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 5: You think that looks significantly more likable?

892
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 4: Can I see? Oh? Baby, so that's more likable.

893
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 3: I like that guy.

894
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:17,919
Speaker 4: I'm willing to give it a shot.

895
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,280
Speaker 5: I'm just saying that I feel like I'm pretty well

896
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 5: like now to say I'm almost universally disliked by my

897
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 5: peer group. I think is a slight.

898
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 3: Let's reach back into the popcorn bag. This bag is empty, John,

899
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 3: This is from doctor doctorpus. John, your show featured a

900
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 3: subplot where the grandmother converts her vegan raised granddaughter into

901
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 3: a meat eater. The season one DVD extress has a

902
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 3: deleted scene where Jama Mays's character forces her daughter to

903
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 3: watch hidden camera slaughter house footage to get the child

904
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 3: back in line. How much of a bummer was it

905
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 3: for you when that scene got cut?

906
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 5: It was a bummer just because we in addition to

907
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 5: being there for last, we do want to kind of

908
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 5: be a social statement show. And we thought, you know,

909
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 5: one of our guiding principles, we have a post on

910
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 5: the wall. Watch that's the statement, right, I mean again,

911
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 5: that's like where they don't let them, don't.

912
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 3: Let them get you?

913
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 5: Where are all the Millers in a way, but we have

914
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 5: a poster on the wall that says, if slaughterhouses had

915
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 5: glass walls, everyone would be a vegetarian. And we view

916
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 5: the television as a glass wall. And so we hope

917
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 5: to have that slaughtering scene to not only convert Michael

918
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,240
Speaker 5: and explain her metamorphsis from me or from Vegan from sorry,

919
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 5: oh this is a oh wait jayme of mate.

920
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 4: Sorry, yeah, okay.

921
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 5: This is comprehensible. I was I was think of another subplot,

922
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 5: ja May.

923
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 3: I was getting very confused. Yeah.

924
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. It was pretty pissed off, and I'm still I'm

925
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 2: still calming down from being steamed.

926
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 5: I feel like part of your confusion is that you

927
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 5: still think I write for where the Millers as opposed

928
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 5: to the Millers. If you're aware of the difference between

929
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 5: the two media mediums, you're the grammar expertire between the

930
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 5: two media, it wouldn't be as confusing.

931
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 3: Let's reach back into the bag.

932
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 4: Yes, let's get back in there.

933
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 6: Wait a second.

934
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 2: If the bag is empty, then what's making that noise?

935
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's Cochran's ma right behind me. Oh god,

936
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 4: it'll be in Hellsy right behind her.

937
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 3: Holy Craul, That's what it is. Also for Rocter, Doctorpus John.

938
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 3: One of the stars of your show, Margot Martindale, also

939
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 3: has a role on the show The Americans. Would you

940
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 3: ever consider writing an episode of that show?

941
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 5: It would be difficult for me to write it because

942
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 5: I've actually never seen the Americans.

943
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 2: Okay, we've heard sort of a big slap on the

944
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 2: butt Margot Martindale.

945
00:49:54,960 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 5: Wouldn't you say, Margot Martindale. I mean she's an unbelievab actress.

946
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 5: I think the fact that, But how would you even know?

947
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 5: I get to work with her on a weekly basis

948
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 5: and I see her.

949
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 3: But you've only seen her play the one character.

950
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 2: She might actually be that person, you know, unless you

951
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: see her do something else.

952
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 3: And wouldn't it be nice for you to check out

953
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 3: maybe some of her other work?

954
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 2: Right?

955
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 5: And it is critically acclaim it's something that I should watch.

956
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 5: I'm just saying in terms of wanting to write it

957
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 5: a difference between appreciating Margot Martindale's work and wanting to

958
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 5: write an episode of The Americans.

959
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 2: You wouldn't say, no, it's one of the ten best

960
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 2: shows of the year, and you wouldn't want to write

961
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 2: for it.

962
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 4: It's that and far going. I think eight others you.

963
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 3: Would not write an episode of The Americans.

964
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 5: I'm happy with my current job.

965
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 2: Oh, that's the sound of a that's the contract we

966
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 2: had for you to write.

967
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 4: The season premiere.

968
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 2: And season finale for next year's We wanted you to

969
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 2: bookend the Americans next year. Margo was excited about it,

970
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 2: Carrie Russell and you were really looking forward to seeing

971
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 2: what you do with it.

972
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 4: And it's for just a ton of dough. Makes your

973
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 4: Survivor Prize.

974
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 5: Look like it's a very big contract.

975
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 4: Fucking well.

976
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 2: There was a lot of stipulations to protect you in there,

977
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 2: and that's all out the window.

978
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 4: Now. Zeros, Yeah, a lot of zeros.

979
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 2: And now there's zero one because this one zero, just

980
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 2: one zero, and it's you and you, and you seem

981
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 2: a fool.

982
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 5: Why are you so much to invest in the Americans?

983
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: Okay, don't try to cycle analyze me. Boy, you ain't

984
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 2: got the firepower. Oh no, I want to see this ryet. Yeah,

985
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 2: you know I would love John. I would love to

986
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 2: see you try. Oh this will be a treat. I

987
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 2: haven't working, I haven't waxed it jump like you in ages.

988
00:51:59,160 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 2: You know.

989
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 4: I've stayed above this.

990
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 3: But just head out your little tools, and why don't

991
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 3: you just pick apart Sean.

992
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, take one, crack at it. I actually this is

993
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 4: gonna be fun for me. Let me crack my knuckles

994
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 4: real quick.

995
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 5: Oh uh sorry, I repeat my question of all you're

996
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 5: so muchly invested in the Americans, which I don't think

997
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 5: was actually like that trying to psychle, you know, analyze you.

998
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 5: You seem very distraught that I was not willing to

999
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 5: write an episode of it.

1000
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:34,720
Speaker 4: Whatever. See uh deuces bro kick rocks.

1001
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 3: That's reached back into the bag. Oh so many more times.

1002
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 4: Now I got all the popcorn.

1003
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 3: I'm Cochran's mom.

1004
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 4: Oh my god, did you hear that?

1005
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 2: It sounds like in the sound drop Cochran's mom killed Mark,

1006
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:52,760
Speaker 2: who records all our sound drops.

1007
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 4: I don't know what happened to Ben Helsig.

1008
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,240
Speaker 5: That's only one of many those.

1009
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 3: Questions from Pat smear. John. You have been heralded as

1010
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 3: a myriad of great descriptors by the international media world,

1011
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 3: class writer, super survivor at all. But I'd like to

1012
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 3: focus on your work as one of our country's greatest millennials.

1013
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 3: Would you be able to help me figure out how

1014
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 3: to take a screenshot on my Apple Macintosh computer?

1015
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's you just hold down command shift and then

1016
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,439
Speaker 5: he press four and that'll bring up a little drop

1017
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 5: box and you can drag the area of the screen

1018
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 5: you want to take a picture of.

1019
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 3: Back in the bag.

1020
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 2: Now I'm eating the popcorn with my steak. Now, I

1021
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 2: wonder that sounds like Van Helsig to me. Now, I

1022
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 2: wonder if he's eating it with a side of steak.

1023
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 3: Or if he's using it to spear the popcat.

1024
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 4: He's spearing the popcorn.

1025
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's what it is. M This question

1026
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 3: is from Michael bayat pigs Hey, John, you and I

1027
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,959
Speaker 3: recently got it. You and I recently got a chance

1028
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 3: to meet. Well. I was shitting on a toilet and

1029
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 3: you just walked right in to wash your hands. I

1030
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 3: told you it was a one person restroom. You laughed

1031
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 3: and said, browed out of your butt, brout of my head.

1032
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 3: Let's grab a drink when this airplane lands. But when

1033
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 3: the flight landed, you were nowhere to be found. Why

1034
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 3: did this happen? How could I have prevented it?

1035
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 5: I thought that it was clear that we would meet

1036
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 5: at the airport bathroom, and I waited there for quite

1037
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 5: a period of time and you didn't show up. I

1038
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 5: don't know where you thought we were going to meet.

1039
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 5: I thought the fact that our initial meeting was in

1040
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 5: the bathroom made it clear that our follow up meeting

1041
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 5: would be in another bathroom.

1042
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 2: And you got inside the stall and then got up

1043
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 2: on top of one of the seats, and then.

1044
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 4: That might have been my father knocked the door.

1045
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 5: That was probably another problem because by getting up on

1046
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 5: the seat, he wouldn't have been able to see my

1047
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 5: feet were.

1048
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 4: You were wearing pretty distinctive footwear.

1049
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 5: Huh, Yeah, I was wearing I was wearing. Yeah, I

1050
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 5: was wearing very distinctive foot.

1051
00:54:58,320 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 2: You don't have to embarrass you can say what it

1052
00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 2: was us. You had some big t Rex slippers off.

1053
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I was wearing t Rex slippers, primarily because

1054
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 5: they get they're comfortable in a long flight. But I

1055
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 5: got I got out, and I didn't want them touching

1056
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 5: the floor of the bathroom, so I got up on

1057
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 5: the toilet, which seemed like the cleaner alternative. Mm hmm,

1058
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 5: I'm someone. I'm sorry that this meeting did not take place.

1059
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,439
Speaker 3: What's that rhyme you like to say?

1060
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 5: Uh, brown on my hands, brown on your face? Uh,

1061
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:28,919
Speaker 5: this is going to be a fun race.

1062
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 3: Those lines.

1063
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 2: Like brown faces, Yeah, race, Like you're saying brown on

1064
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 2: your face. This is gonna be a fun race, like

1065
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 2: kind of like when you're talking about the pushman, Like

1066
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 2: his face was.

1067
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 4: A little browner than yours and then he's he's.

1068
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 3: Like a goblet.

1069
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting. That's an interesting perspective. I don't see

1070
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,240
Speaker 2: things that way, but it's always interesting to talk.

1071
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 4: To someone who sees things differently.

1072
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 5: This is more about scat playing us about like racial relations.

1073
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 3: I don't know. Yes, skidily doobop all the way to

1074
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 3: the end of the show. And thank you for joining us,

1075
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 3: John and and it's been thank you everyone else for

1076
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 3: rating us on iTunes and for and for chatting with

1077
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 3: us on the forums, and uh and uh and for

1078
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 3: buying the the pro version of the show. Jacob c

1079
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 3: brought the pro version this week in his first week

1080
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 3: on the forums, and he wins a big prize.

1081
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 2: Which is Jacob cy your prize uh for buying the

1082
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 2: pro version is you're going to get to hear Cochrane

1083
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 2: finally apologize to that poor bushman.

1084
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 3: Why do you apologize to that little man who you

1085
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 3: called a goblet?

1086
00:56:55,320 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 5: His name was Tata and Tatak. You're listening to this,

1087
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 5: I am sorry. It was not a comparison that I

1088
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 5: meant to make.

1089
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 4: But also if he's listening to this, I'm scared. How

1090
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 4: do you get this?

1091
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 5: Which I feel like that's an unfair I mean, that's

1092
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 5: that's kind of a cultural thing. You don't think that

1093
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 5: he's access to the internet.

1094
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 2: Don't try to cycle analyze me path Okay, you don't

1095
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 2: got the fucking juice homes. Sorry, Bye, Sussis.

1096
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Speaker 8: This has been an Earwolf Media production Executive producers Jeff

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00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 8: Olrick and Scott Ackerman. For more information, visit earwolf dot com.

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Speaker 3: Ear Warf Radio, Boom dot com, The Wolf Dead