Speaker 1: Hello, Hi.
Speaker 2: What is your name?
Speaker 3: Hi? This is Chelsea.
Speaker 2: Chelsea. What's up, Chelsea? How's your night going?
Speaker 4: It's good?
Speaker 3: Is this Lyle?
Speaker 2: This is yes? Yes?
Speaker 3: Wow? No way have we spoken before?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: Never? Well?
Speaker 2: How nice we How nice that we finally get to
Speaker 2: get the chat. I'm here, you know what, Chelsea, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna let you know right now. I'm nowhere, but here
Speaker 2: you have my full, complete, utter attention right now. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm I feel I feel very locked
Speaker 2: in today, so so let's let's do that. I'm not
Speaker 2: even I'm turning all the brightness on my computer down
Speaker 2: and I've been looking at the fucking computer.
Speaker 3: Uh on the phone.
Speaker 2: What's up, Chelsea? How you doing?
Speaker 3: I'm good. I'm just I'm hanging out with this cat
Speaker 3: that I'm fostering. I just got home from being out
Speaker 3: in the city. I also live in New York City.
Speaker 2: What were you doing out? What were you doing out?
Speaker 3: I was meeting up with a friend who we both
Speaker 3: like working for each other, but like don't meet up
Speaker 3: that often, and we were just like, why don't we
Speaker 3: do this? So we we finally did it, and now
Speaker 3: we're planning like an October fest you know, outing on partifle.
Speaker 3: So we were we were kind of like bonding over
Speaker 3: the fact that, like we have all these friends that
Speaker 3: are like, let's hang out, and then we never do.
Speaker 3: So we're trying to take action on that.
Speaker 2: That's good. Yeah, it's always good to hang out with
Speaker 2: your friends, unless if your friends are our serial killers.
Speaker 2: I'm m I'm going to try to have a normal conversation.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I'm feeling the need to do
Speaker 2: to do that. Okay, let me ask you this, Chelsea,
Speaker 2: And it's fine if not. We can go in a
Speaker 2: million different directions with directions with this. But was there
Speaker 2: anything specific that you uh you said You've been listening
Speaker 2: to the podcast for a long time, so you've probably
Speaker 2: heard all the things. And I'm not saying necessarily that
Speaker 2: we have to talk about any depressing things from your life,
Speaker 2: unless if you want to. But I am saying that, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, you've been listening to the podcast, you kind
Speaker 2: of understand, uh, what's up? So I'll ask you if
Speaker 2: is there anything in particular that you wanted to dive
Speaker 2: into while we're while I'm motherfucking locked in to the
Speaker 2: phone right now.
Speaker 3: Well, there was something I thought of so you know
Speaker 3: that one caller that was talking about they were like
Speaker 3: on their first date in the car.
Speaker 2: I was just thinking of about that today, if you
Speaker 2: would believe it?
Speaker 3: Okay, So I listened to that episode, and then I
Speaker 3: was listening to the gek Mail episode where they followed
Speaker 3: up on that. M Do you remember that?
Speaker 2: How I do?
Speaker 3: She was like, this is what, like, this is my
Speaker 3: message to everyone else out there, and like I was
Speaker 3: going through it like with just like a weird non
Speaker 3: relationship thing, and then that like really inspired me to,
Speaker 3: you know, make an effort in like fully putting myself
Speaker 3: out there and what I really want, and I think
Speaker 3: I found it. And it's like it's weird, like a
Speaker 3: plot twist happened, but yeah it's I gained hope from
Speaker 3: that and it worked out really well.
Speaker 2: It sounds it was that easy.
Speaker 3: I mean it like not easy, Like it definitely took
Speaker 3: like a bunch of trials and errors, and like after
Speaker 3: an error, I would go like months or maybe even
Speaker 3: like years without trying anything. But then this time I
Speaker 3: was just like, Okay, I'm just gonna be honest and
Speaker 3: be like, you know, I'm a very emotional, romantic person
Speaker 3: and like I don't want to date people that are
Speaker 3: super nonchalant about stuff and pretending like we don't like
Speaker 3: each other. And then I was like, I guess I
Speaker 3: got lucky, or I mean, who knows, maybe this person
Speaker 3: is also crazy. You never know, but it's crazy how
Speaker 3: when you feel secure in something that you're not like
Speaker 3: constantly spiraling and like feeling anxious all the time. Because
Speaker 3: I definitely have anxiety over things calm.
Speaker 2: So since you you've found in this secure relationship, you've
Speaker 2: been feeling more calm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was. I was telling my sister, like
Speaker 3: she lives in California, and I was like, yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't really call you as much because normally I'm like
Speaker 3: sirling out over something, but now I'm just, you know,
Speaker 3: I feel great, so I feel bad.
Speaker 2: How long have you been with this guy for?
Speaker 3: I mean it's only it's only been a month, but
Speaker 3: it's been a very promising and consistent month, Like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is yeah, this is this is one of
Speaker 2: the can I can I ask how old you are?
Speaker 3: I'm thirty two.
Speaker 2: Okay, and you just met this skuy a month ago? Yeah,
Speaker 2: and this is the this is the would you say
Speaker 2: this is the calmest you've felt in a while.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was even telling him. I was like, I'm normally
Speaker 3: I'm normally like really nervous around like guys or people
Speaker 3: that I'm meeting up with, and like, I'm strangely calm.
Speaker 2: Are you are you? Do you feel calm in general?
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is kind of crazy because I definitely am, like,
Speaker 3: like I have anxiety, I'm being treated for it. But yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's nice, It's very refreshing.
Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, yeah, this is really funny because there's
Speaker 2: a lot of there's competing narratives that exist in the world,
Speaker 2: each of them possessing their own validities. I promise I'm
Speaker 2: going to say something. There's competing narratives in the world,
Speaker 2: each of them possessing their own validities. One narrative says
Speaker 2: that all you have to do to become happy is
Speaker 2: to get what you want, and that's what makes sense.
Speaker 2: You know, you want love, and then when you find it,
Speaker 2: you feel better. And then there are narratives that go,
Speaker 2: you actually need to not want anything, and you have
Speaker 2: to be okay with being alone and poor and living
Speaker 2: in a tree. And the answer, as I understand it,
Speaker 2: lies somewhere between those two places. Right, because I just
Speaker 2: it's a weird, bullshit narrative. I think it's a bullshit
Speaker 2: narrative that yeah, uh, you know you're supposed to be
Speaker 2: totally okay being alone. I think it pisses people off.
Speaker 2: But on the flip side is, of course, if your
Speaker 2: whole life mission is to uh find someone to make
Speaker 2: you not anxious, then there's something weird. It's not a
Speaker 2: it's like very not black and white in either direction.
Speaker 2: That's just what I don't That's just what's going That's
Speaker 2: just what's going through my mind as I'm hearing you
Speaker 2: talk about this. What did you see?
Speaker 3: No, I was gonna say, like I saw something where
Speaker 3: it's like everyone says that, you know, it takes a
Speaker 3: village and everyone needs their village. But nowadays people can't
Speaker 3: really deal with being inconvenienced. But that's kind of the
Speaker 3: point of like having those people is like you know,
Speaker 3: you would go out of your way to make them
Speaker 3: feel included. And I think that's like it's something that
Speaker 3: I've thought about, you know, when it comes to like
Speaker 3: having people in your life, Like, am I getting back
Speaker 3: as much as I put in? And I feel like
Speaker 3: nowadays people are so quick to write things off as like,
Speaker 3: you know, well, I'm not really getting anything in return,
Speaker 3: so like I'm just not gonna put any effort into it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, uh, it's a give and take, so you
Speaker 3: feel calm. Yeah, it's very strange.
Speaker 2: This is the first time you're thirty two. This is
Speaker 2: the first time you ever felt.
Speaker 3: Calm, I mean relationship wise. Yeah, it's like I haven't
Speaker 3: had much experience in adult relationships, but yeah, it feels nice.
Speaker 4: Mm hm hm hmm.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was gonna say, but I got into your
Speaker 3: podcast because I used to go on long walks and
Speaker 3: just like listen to your podcast whenever I would be
Speaker 3: like crashing out over something, and it really helps to,
Speaker 3: you know, just listen to other people's stories and perspective.
Speaker 3: And I would recommend it to my friends whenever they're
Speaker 3: going through something. I would be like, I go on
Speaker 3: these things called email walks, and I would just put
Speaker 3: on my headphones and walk around the city and listen
Speaker 3: to a podcast. That way, I'm not like thinking about
Speaker 3: my own situations.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm happy to be uh an accompaniment of
Speaker 2: your emo walk. I treat I'm honored dear that hmm.
Speaker 5: Hmmm.
Speaker 2: So this is the so after many years, you're like, Okay,
Speaker 2: let me finally really try to put myself out there.
Speaker 3: And yeah, and I think what really also clicked was
Speaker 3: like being honest with myself and like it's okay that
Speaker 3: I'm I feel like I'm needy in relationships and you know,
Speaker 3: now I've learned, like you know, you'll find some You'll
Speaker 3: find someone that is okay with that. Because this guy
Speaker 3: was like, I want to worship you, and you know,
Speaker 3: I want to be with you. And he was very
Speaker 3: you know, vocal about he said.
Speaker 2: He said he wanted to worship you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I told him, I was like, I
Speaker 3: think that's like my thing, I think, and that's I
Speaker 3: think that's a thing that people have, your.
Speaker 2: Your your your thing is that you want to be worshiped.
Speaker 3: Yes, and yeah. We had a whole conversation about it,
Speaker 3: and she's on board.
Speaker 2: Wow. Interesting, what is that? What does that mean to
Speaker 2: you to be worshiped?
Speaker 3: I mean like so far, it's just like it's the attentiveness.
Speaker 3: You know, he'll text me every night and every morning
Speaker 3: like good morning, beautiful, Chelsea, good night beautiful Chelsea. It's
Speaker 3: very it's very sweet and romantic and yeah, I feel
Speaker 3: like I have this full attention a lot of times,
Speaker 3: which is great.
Speaker 2: See how older or younger?
Speaker 3: He's two years younger. But I'm a I am a
Speaker 3: benevolent goddess, not malevolent.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmmm okay, okay, does that worry you at all?
Speaker 2: Like do you risk? Can you have respect for someone
Speaker 2: who blindly worships you?
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 3: I do in a sense of like we we really
Speaker 3: had a connection before this conversation came up, and you know,
Speaker 3: we were both like, is it love bombing if we're
Speaker 3: both on board with it and into it? I don't know,
Speaker 3: but no, I I think I respect it because to me,
Speaker 3: I feel like a man who can lean into his
Speaker 3: romantic side. Like I like that because I've dated guys
Speaker 3: before where like they won't even hold my hand, and
Speaker 3: I'm just like, what's the point, Like do you even
Speaker 3: like me?
Speaker 2: You know guys who won't hold your fucking hand?
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, these exist, They're out there.
Speaker 2: And crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't know, Like growing up, I would
Speaker 3: be like eupda, But now that I'm in a relationship,
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I like PDA, like to to a
Speaker 3: reasonable extent, But it's I feel like it's just been
Speaker 3: a process of like being honest with myself and like, no,
Speaker 3: I like feeling this way or I like these things,
Speaker 3: and it's okay, how did you How did.
Speaker 2: You meet this this gentlemen?
Speaker 3: I met him on Hinge? I had the app for like,
Speaker 3: I've downloaded it and deleted it many a time, and
Speaker 3: this time I redownloaded it and it was about like
Speaker 3: a weekend and he seemed nice.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmmm, that's really nice. It sounds uh, this sounds good.
Speaker 2: This sounds like a good thing. Maybe probably probably probably
Speaker 2: it's probably a good thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean it gives you hopefully optimistic.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3: Uh, pautiously optimistic good things.
Speaker 2: Happening in your life is good? Yeah, yes, right, right right.
Speaker 2: I don't know where. I don't know where I came.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I hope. I feel like this is connected
Speaker 2: to what you're saying. At least in my brain it is.
Speaker 2: But I think I somewhere along the line fell into
Speaker 2: some stoic ideation that you know, you should enjoy life
Speaker 2: however it is. But and there's truth to this, truth
Speaker 2: to that, but also uh, falsehood to it. I think, Yeah,
Speaker 2: be careful. I guess I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm definitely like I feel like I've had
Speaker 3: enough experiences dabbling in relationships and like I yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: seeing green green flags.
Speaker 2: Good good. Chelsea. There's a whole neighborhood in New York
Speaker 2: called Chelsea.
Speaker 3: I know I work in that neighborhood. I have to
Speaker 3: really like close my ears all the time.
Speaker 2: Chelsea and Chelsea. Yeah, mm hmmm, well what now it's Chelsea? Yeah,
Speaker 2: before we go? What now?
Speaker 4: What's?
Speaker 2: Uh? What now?
Speaker 5: What now?
Speaker 2: Chelsea?
Speaker 3: I think we just have to be honest with ourselves
Speaker 3: in what we want and at the same time, you know,
Speaker 3: be cautious, but don't stop yourself from putting yourself out there,
Speaker 3: you know, Yollo.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go? Chelsea?
Speaker 3: Yes, I've thought about this. Get a bidet if you
Speaker 3: don't have one.
Speaker 2: We need a bidet sponsor. I'm dying to get a
Speaker 2: good day. Man. I hate my asshole is always changing
Speaker 2: covered in diarrhea. I'm trying to get a good day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll change your life. It's a great feeling.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Chelsea. You have a good rest of the night.
Speaker 3: Bye. Thank you.
Speaker 4: Hello, what's up?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 4: Hey? What's up?
Speaker 2: What's your name?
Speaker 4: Not much, man, I just wanted to see you. Know, No,
Speaker 4: I feel like no one ever hass how you're doing?
Speaker 4: How are you doing, buddy?
Speaker 2: How am I doing?
Speaker 4: Yes, sir?
Speaker 2: My honest answer is that I actually I don't really
Speaker 2: want to talk about how I'm doing, to be honest,
Speaker 2: but I want to talk about how you're doing. You
Speaker 2: texted me? Can I tell? You texted me? And you
Speaker 2: said Chelsea was kind of crazy, a lot of red
Speaker 2: flags in her and that relationship. And yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: know if I necessarily agree, but I would love to
Speaker 2: have the conversation as to why you believe that.
Speaker 4: I just feel like a month in and wanting to
Speaker 4: be worshiped is kind of something I wouldn't necessarily think
Speaker 4: is the most healthy thing. M Being in a situation
Speaker 4: that I have been in before, where you know, you
Speaker 4: get a little bit obsessed about someone, not necessarily obsessed,
Speaker 4: but really enthralled with it can lead to some really
Speaker 4: hard times.
Speaker 2: Tell Okay, it sounds like you're speaking from some form
Speaker 2: of personal experience. Do you do you care to share?
Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah, So basically, it just you know, you get
Speaker 4: you get really attached to someone, and then when things
Speaker 4: aren't always ideal, you know, health issues, things of that
Speaker 4: nature start to occur. A lot of hardship happens. And
Speaker 4: when someone grows accustomed to being quote unquote worshiped, it
Speaker 4: tends to lead to a lot of troubled times when
Speaker 4: you know you can't you can't do that for them,
Speaker 4: when you need to try and focus on yourself, If
Speaker 4: that makes any sense. Yes, and so I'm worried that,
Speaker 4: you know, and I mean no disrespector but it's just
Speaker 4: it can lead to a lot of really hard times
Speaker 4: down the road when that's what your relationship is kind
Speaker 4: of become and almost based on, and it no longer is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see what you mean. I see what you mean,
Speaker 2: because something can start off with a dynamic of I
Speaker 2: want to worship you, and then you can debate as
Speaker 2: to how uh fuck you can debate as to how
Speaker 2: sustainable that dynamic is. Yes, I agree, exactly, I agree exactly.
Speaker 2: I agree, And that.
Speaker 4: Can lead to a lot of really really tough decisions
Speaker 4: and hard times, you know, a little bit farther down
Speaker 4: the road. Not necessarily saying that it will always happen,
Speaker 4: but it definitely can, and most times it leads to
Speaker 4: really tough decisions that are later in life. I mean,
Speaker 4: I know that she was in her early thirties, so
Speaker 4: you know, if it happens when you're forty, these things
Speaker 4: can become even more like stating how old are you, sir,
Speaker 4: I'm thirty one.
Speaker 2: Did you have a woman in your life once you
Speaker 2: you worshiped.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say worshiped, but it was like a heavy codependency.
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah yeah, or that want or or that wanted
Speaker 2: you to worship her.
Speaker 4: Innocent. Yeah, like a big sense of not like what
Speaker 4: you do for me, but always expecting me to, you know,
Speaker 4: be the provider of financial or emotional or mental help.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny, I I I've had my own experience
Speaker 2: with something like this, and it was hard to gauge
Speaker 2: because I actually I enjoy I enjoyed it. I'd lie
Speaker 2: if I say if I said I didn't enjoy it,
Speaker 2: because I liked I liked the idea of providing, and
Speaker 2: I liked it. It made me super happy too to
Speaker 2: do things for this person and.
Speaker 4: To exactly that feeling of being needed is always it's fulfilling.
Speaker 2: It's the best, it's the best. I mean, yeah, I
Speaker 2: was thinking of today there was this I went to
Speaker 2: like pick up a like a shirt for for for
Speaker 2: this lady late at night, and she was like, you're
Speaker 2: my hero. And I was like, Oh, that's the best
Speaker 2: feeling in the world, you know. Yeah, but I and
Speaker 2: so there's actually you know, I I know, I know
Speaker 2: from the guy's perspective as to why that feels so good,
Speaker 2: then why that you know, even though I guess it
Speaker 2: doesn't on paper sound like a good arrangement, but it
Speaker 2: can feel really amazing to you know, feel needed, to
Speaker 2: feel like you're really taking care of somebody else and whatnot.
Speaker 2: But I also, again from that perspective, understand why that
Speaker 2: can be unsustainable over over a long period of time. Yes,
Speaker 2: I don't think that that's a Yeah, people change and
Speaker 2: feelings change in situations changed, and I can see why. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's not I think it can be an element of
Speaker 2: a relationship, but if it's the basis of it, it can. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it can lead to to to resentments and all these
Speaker 2: other things. But it's enticing, and it's enticing on both sides.
Speaker 2: It's enticing for the for the woman who is you know,
Speaker 2: getting that kind of treatment. It's enticing for the man
Speaker 2: who uh is enthralled by his opportunity to provide that
Speaker 2: kind of treatments. You know, some people some people make it.
Speaker 2: Some people fucking make it work. Some people really are
Speaker 2: just like, everyone has different modest operendis I think I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Is am I saying that? Hold on, I'm gonna completely
Speaker 2: interrupt discovercy? Is it modus operendi? Okay, all right, I
Speaker 2: got it right. Some people have different em os and
Speaker 2: for someone, their mo might be I want to fucking
Speaker 2: like that's their thing, Like that's their addiction, like like
Speaker 2: like it's actually kind of funny and and works, and
Speaker 2: honestly is probably the basis of like inherent human biology.
Speaker 2: That It's like there are a lot of there are
Speaker 2: a lot of women out there who are like I
Speaker 2: just want I want to be taken care of. I
Speaker 2: want to be a princess, I want to be worship
Speaker 2: That's like the thing that I want. And there are
Speaker 2: guys out there, and then and then for every one
Speaker 2: of those women, there's a guy out there who's like,
Speaker 2: I want to just give all of my money to someone,
Speaker 2: just have all of my money, have all of my
Speaker 2: money and look at me sometimes and that would make
Speaker 2: me so so happy. And I don't know, I don't
Speaker 2: think any of I don't I place no moral value
Speaker 2: judgment on either of those emos. But yeah, they coexist. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure there's fucking long term relationship will however,
Speaker 2: long term ish relationships that operate that way. But they
Speaker 2: have kinks, for sure, what you're saying, they have kinks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, really sput on advice with being cautious. It can
Speaker 4: be a little bit dangerous when it's you know, a
Speaker 4: month in right and that's going on, especially like not
Speaker 4: saying that Chelsea is or any by any means, but
Speaker 4: if somebody could be emotionally unstable and then having this dynamic,
Speaker 4: it could turn into something very toxic and really hurtful.
Speaker 2: Dan h Yeah, I see what you man, and I
Speaker 2: appreciate you going at this from a logical perspective, because, yeah,
Speaker 2: the emotional roller coaster is kind of running high. But
Speaker 2: for Chelsea as someone and I don't know if I
Speaker 2: dove too deep into it with her, but as somebody
Speaker 2: who you know, I get it if she's been so
Speaker 2: anxious for so long to be like I mean, at
Speaker 2: thirty two to fucking just be like, why do I
Speaker 2: just have to find something that kind of works? And
Speaker 2: for like a month you have a thing where you're like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, am I I did. I didn't know
Speaker 2: it was physically possible to feel peaceful. It's a crazy
Speaker 2: moment if you're and I get it, if you're a
Speaker 2: person who's been like in a in a in an
Speaker 2: anxious spiral for their entire life, thirty two years, this
Speaker 2: so long time to find it's it's it's it's so
Speaker 2: so exciting, this idea that you might be relieved of
Speaker 2: this fucking burden. But it comes back. You know, it
Speaker 2: comes back. It doesn't leave, It doesn't.
Speaker 1: Leave you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you come back down to ground. Imagine and you
Speaker 2: might it might be a kind of a two steps forward,
Speaker 2: one step back kind of a coming back. But you
Speaker 2: got to be wary because I've experienced this multiple times
Speaker 2: in my life where yeah, you enter a new relationship
Speaker 2: or you think of you have just a new lease
Speaker 2: on something external to yourself or fucking internal to yourself,
Speaker 2: gives you a new lease on life, and then you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is great. Everything's gonna be amazing forever. I fucking
Speaker 2: finally figured it out. Oh my god. They all told
Speaker 2: me I couldn't, but I did it. I found a
Speaker 2: man to worship me. I found a woman to worship.
Speaker 2: I'm so calm, I'm so happy. Everything's great, and it's
Speaker 2: gonna be like this forever. Let's get married, let's have
Speaker 2: three kids, have all my money, joint bank accounts, vegas,
Speaker 2: shotgun wedding. Everything is gonna be great because of course,
Speaker 2: And why would you not do that? Why would you
Speaker 2: not if you've been going insane for thirty two years?
Speaker 2: This is nothing. I'm not not pointed at Chelsea by
Speaker 2: the way. This is actually just uh, I'm drawing this general.
Speaker 2: I'm drawing this general and from you know, my own life,
Speaker 2: and you know, just knowing whatever I know about the
Speaker 2: human condition is of course not of course, yeah, of
Speaker 2: course you get if you have finally you find something
Speaker 2: that gives you some sort of relief, you're gonna be
Speaker 2: drawn to it like it like it's like it's oxygen.
Speaker 2: So of course, And I don't blame anyway if you're like,
Speaker 2: if you get like the kid, the people who are like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I met my uh, I met this lady at a
Speaker 2: bar and we got married in two weeks afterwards. That's
Speaker 2: not a weird story to me. There used to be
Speaker 2: a weird story to me, And now it makes perfect sense.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't know if it makes perfect sense. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't even know if it makes perfect sense in
Speaker 2: terms of this is a logistically good decision, but it
Speaker 2: makes perfect sense as to why people are driven to
Speaker 2: do that. It's perfect sense. You know.
Speaker 4: Sometimes it just you know, it could just take that
Speaker 4: one spark to you know, change something different in that
Speaker 4: person's life, which could lead to a better life for
Speaker 4: that person individually as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I also I used to think it was
Speaker 2: like stupid, but I sometimes it just you can you
Speaker 2: can connect with the person if you really motherfucking connect
Speaker 2: with a person, especially if you're like weird and you
Speaker 2: don't connect with a lot of people and you finally
Speaker 2: find someone you do kind of connect with, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I could get while you're like, well, fuck, let's go
Speaker 2: all in. You know, when the fuck I've never felt
Speaker 2: this way before, Let's keep going. But it also has
Speaker 2: the potential to leave you high and dry. But you
Speaker 2: know what else has the potential to leave you high
Speaker 2: and dry? I mean, remember the lady a few episodes
Speaker 2: ago who got divorced. She did everything right. That was
Speaker 2: her whole thing. She did everything right. She dated for
Speaker 2: like she lived. She got married the way that like
Speaker 2: my fucking parents did, in a way where they date
Speaker 2: for a while, like the normal shit. You date for
Speaker 2: a while, and then do you decide maturely, on a mature,
Speaker 2: regular adult timeline to have children and to get married
Speaker 2: and to do all these things, and then she then
Speaker 2: you get left high and dry fucking doing it that way, right,
Speaker 2: So no matter how you do it, no matter how
Speaker 2: you do it, you risk being thrown in a dumpster.
Speaker 2: So you know what I'm saying, Am I making any sense?
Speaker 4: You absolutely are. I think you're speaking perfectly to be home,
Speaker 4: because I mean it could it could happen anyway, and
Speaker 4: whatever works for you works for you. But there is
Speaker 4: always that risk. So whatever works for you, you just
Speaker 4: gotta go with what you feel.
Speaker 2: There's all the times where like a fucking like some
Speaker 2: you know, this is one of the ways in which
Speaker 2: I think I've matured, is like I I've been going
Speaker 2: back and like because I there's like there's like calls
Speaker 2: from like there's a bunch of calls from like twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two that I recorded and never did anything with,
Speaker 2: and I'm going back and putting them on the Patreon
Speaker 2: and I'm like listening to some of them and I'm like,
Speaker 2: in the like three years ago, if someone called me
Speaker 2: and they're like, I'm eighteen and I'm getting married to
Speaker 2: my other eighteen year old girlfriend, I'd be like, and
Speaker 2: I still think I'm a little bit right, but I'd
Speaker 2: be like, this is so, this is really stupid and
Speaker 2: you shouldn't do this. It's not gonna work. And I
Speaker 2: would be very, i think, convinced about that. But the
Speaker 2: older I get, the more I realized I don't know
Speaker 2: any everything's beyond me. And there's been plenty of I'm
Speaker 2: sure relationships like that that crash and burn because of
Speaker 2: the obvious reasons why they might crash and burn, but
Speaker 2: then plenty that just keep going, you know. I Mean,
Speaker 2: we had that guy on the podcast. He's thirty two,
Speaker 2: been with the same lady since he was fucking sixteen,
Speaker 2: So like, it's not a one size fits all solution. Well,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stop talking in generalities. What's your name.
Speaker 4: My name is Brandon.
Speaker 2: How's your love life going? Brandon?
Speaker 4: Right, now I'm single, very cautiously.
Speaker 2: Single, cautiously single. You're thirty one, Yes, sir? What is
Speaker 2: cautiously single? Man? What's the difference between single and cautiously single?
Speaker 4: Well, when I was younger, you know, I just go
Speaker 4: out have a good time, didn't really care about what
Speaker 4: would have happen. You know, sometimes you meet a girl
Speaker 4: and things just turn into situationship, relationship, whatever it may be.
Speaker 4: But as you go on, you really have to start
Speaker 4: putting things in perspective and realizing, like you know, sometimes
Speaker 4: one good night is a good night, but you got
Speaker 4: you gotta really focus on what what the goals are
Speaker 4: in your life and who can match those and what
Speaker 4: what's suitable for you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. What what did you get put through
Speaker 2: the ringer.
Speaker 4: A little bit? Yeah, it was just a lot of
Speaker 4: ups and downs, moviescarriage, all different sorts of financial struggles,
Speaker 4: mental struggles. So now it's just kind of like you know, you,
Speaker 4: I'm really focused on. Timing isn't really my issue. It's
Speaker 4: more of hitting hitting the target where I need to,
Speaker 4: If that makes any sense.
Speaker 2: I explain a little more hitting the target when you
Speaker 2: need to.
Speaker 4: Like my goals, who I want in my life that
Speaker 4: can help me achieve those goals. Who has goals themselves
Speaker 4: that I can help them achieve. Work as a as
Speaker 4: a team, not necessarily individuals, but you know, individually a
Speaker 4: team if that makes any sense, where we can both
Speaker 4: succeed and try and just build something together that's more
Speaker 4: than just the initial feeling of oh my gosh, this
Speaker 4: person is so great, I want to be with this person,
Speaker 4: and more of like, all right, let's let's take things
Speaker 4: real slow and see, you know how how are we
Speaker 4: going to be feeling about this and in a month,
Speaker 4: six months, a year, like, are we still on the
Speaker 4: same page, same wavelength? Is everything working out? Things of
Speaker 4: that nature.
Speaker 2: M I still believe. I think I'm holding on hope
Speaker 2: where I'm like, I'm gonna find someone and it's it's
Speaker 2: just gonna be easy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I don't know, Oh yeah, that would be the goal.
Speaker 4: But and that's why when you go through some really
Speaker 4: hard hardships and tough relationships sometimes maybe I'm just a
Speaker 4: little jaded, but sometimes I have to really slow down
Speaker 4: and not just get caught up and wrapped up in
Speaker 4: the emotion.
Speaker 2: I've met people in a personal life and on the
Speaker 2: show and then whatever where they're like, uh, some people,
Speaker 2: some people that is easy. I think some people that
Speaker 2: is just easy. And then other people, Uh, yeah, they're
Speaker 2: a little they're a little more jaded about it. You
Speaker 2: know that a lot of that ship, I feel like
Speaker 2: depends on the luck of the draw of your own
Speaker 2: personal experiences and whatever hand you got adults, as as
Speaker 2: who you are.
Speaker 4: Exactly.
Speaker 2: But I appreciate this sentiment, this was I appreciate your counterpoints.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it and it's it's nothing against Chelsea, like
Speaker 4: I don't think it is. Things work out for her,
Speaker 4: and even if they don't, I mean, there's always time.
Speaker 4: There's what eight billion people on the Earth. There's there's
Speaker 4: plenty of time, people, So you just gotta find what's
Speaker 4: good for you.
Speaker 2: You know. I don't like the whole there's eight billion
Speaker 2: people on Earth thing, because I mean some of them
Speaker 2: are children, so that that you know, hopefully that hopefully
Speaker 2: there that takes them out, hopefully they're not on the
Speaker 2: So there's that. And then several billion of them only
Speaker 2: speak Chinese, uh, which is fine, weill is fine if
Speaker 2: you speak Chinese, but it probably difficult if you don't,
Speaker 2: so uh. And then another few billion of them only
Speaker 2: speak uh what, Spanish maybe and if you'll if you
Speaker 2: don't speak Spanish, that you're fucked on that. So this,
Speaker 2: I don't think there's really a there's not eight brilliant
Speaker 2: you don't have a billion. And then and then also
Speaker 2: a lot of those billion people are just way hotter
Speaker 2: than you and don't they would never consider being with you,
Speaker 2: so you gotta So I'm gonna say there's probably and
Speaker 2: then not also a lot of the I'm not done.
Speaker 2: And then also a lot of them live in places
Speaker 2: that you'll know some of them is some of those
Speaker 2: a billion people live in Macedonia. So I think the
Speaker 2: saying should really be that it's also a lot of
Speaker 2: them are men or women, which I don't know if
Speaker 2: you're gay or straight or whatever. But if you're not
Speaker 2: that white out four billion people, uh so you probably
Speaker 2: at least I think the more realistic way of saying
Speaker 2: that is there's probably at least just four or five
Speaker 2: other people who are willing to go on a date
Speaker 2: with you the next two years, maybe more than that
Speaker 2: if you're you know, if you if you get ripped.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there's definitely variables. I agree with you on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what's your name again, Brandon? Brandon? I appreciate you, Brandon.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go, No, sir, just.
Speaker 4: I hope you all get the help that you need
Speaker 4: from therapy get go, and I hope therapy Gecko is
Speaker 4: doing good himself.
Speaker 2: I'm trying my best, man. I appreciate you asking. I'll
Speaker 2: see you around the universe.
Speaker 4: All right. Bye?
Speaker 2: That was Brandon. Eight billion people on the Earth. I
Speaker 2: don't know. This is probably more than that now, but again,
Speaker 2: it's like how many. I think there's websites that you
Speaker 2: can go to where you can put in like what
Speaker 2: you're looking for in a partner, and it narrows it down.
Speaker 2: It's way, it's so much less than eight billion, you know. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I just you know, I'm saying all this stuff to,
Speaker 2: you know, make all you guys feel more optimistic. Do
Speaker 2: do Do Do Do Do Do Do. Hi wile yes, Hi?
Speaker 2: Who Who to whom am I speaking?
Speaker 3: Hi?
Speaker 5: This is Angie, Angie.
Speaker 2: What's up, Angie? How's life going?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 5: Life is a fabulous I am currently in New York
Speaker 5: City with a few co workers working at Music festival
Speaker 5: this weekend and just kind of trying not to let
Speaker 5: my social anxiety get in the way of a great
Speaker 5: opportunity because I'm kind of like sitting at tables with
Speaker 5: directors and you know, like managers and supervisors, which is
Speaker 5: the first time I've gotten to sit with them and
Speaker 5: talk to them and get one on one time with them.
Speaker 5: So I'm really just trying to put myself out there.
Speaker 5: But I flew in today. I left this morning at
Speaker 5: about six am, and now I'm here. I had some pizza,
Speaker 5: it was really good. This is my first time in New.
Speaker 3: York City as well.
Speaker 5: And we were walking to this rooftop bar and it
Speaker 5: shid ton of rats just came and ran across us
Speaker 5: and scared the shit out of me.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of rats.
Speaker 3: I was like, what the hill I was in.
Speaker 5: I came from Phoenix, and obviously I don't just see
Speaker 5: rats scaring around anywhere, so it was pretty crazy. I
Speaker 5: definitely helped and clenched onto somebody next to me because
Speaker 5: that was a whole new experience for me because it
Speaker 5: was not only one, it.
Speaker 3: Was like seven of them.
Speaker 2: So, what's this music festival happening this weekend?
Speaker 5: So it's John Summit's music festival. It's called Experts Only.
Speaker 5: It's going to be at Randall's Island. I have yet
Speaker 5: to look at the site yet, and then to go
Speaker 5: there tomorrow morning and get everything set up and kind
Speaker 5: of get my areas set up as well and view
Speaker 5: the site and stuff. So that's pretty exciting. I worked
Speaker 5: for I do festivals in Phoenix, Arizona, and they're doing
Speaker 5: this event as well in New York. So they asked
Speaker 5: me to join, and my first time traveling with work
Speaker 5: for this, so I was ecstatic. I was so like
Speaker 5: super excited, super happy and trying to make my way
Speaker 5: in the industry and kind of dabbling in a different
Speaker 5: areas and things to figure out what exactly I want
Speaker 5: to do and network. But I'm just I know the
Speaker 5: industry is a lot of networking and talking to people,
Speaker 5: but that's not my forte. I really have to just
Speaker 5: like okay, just say something, like talk about something, bring
Speaker 5: something up or instead of just like wasting you know,
Speaker 5: an opportunity that I have with the side op directors
Speaker 5: and the directors of the festival and marketing directors, so
Speaker 5: I can, you know, so they at least know who
Speaker 5: I am, but I just have I guess, social anxiety anyway.
Speaker 5: So I think I was really just overthinking the strips
Speaker 5: the entire time up until I was leading with it.
Speaker 5: But now I'm here and I'm really just trying to,
Speaker 5: you know, make conversation. And I kind of like go
Speaker 5: back to you when you do you like your email
Speaker 5: getts and You're like, I'm just going to sit here
Speaker 5: and challenge myself and just continuously like talk and talk
Speaker 5: and talk for the next sixteen minutes or whatever you
Speaker 5: do on your emails. So I've been doing my best
Speaker 5: and just you know, trying to stay out of my
Speaker 5: head of trying to be like overthinking everything like oh
Speaker 5: did I say something stupid, did I not say something correctly?
Speaker 5: Or because I always overthink it and I come back
Speaker 5: to it fucking at two o'clock in the morning, I'm like, God,
Speaker 5: damn it, I didn't say X Y and Z or
Speaker 5: I should have said X, Y and Z and it
Speaker 5: didn't happen the way I thought it should happen. So
Speaker 5: just kind of put myself out there, and you know,
Speaker 5: I've been with the company for three years and I
Speaker 5: feel really honored and really blessed that my manager thought
Speaker 5: about me and decided to send me here. And now
Speaker 5: I'm here. So just we're at this rooftop pop bar,
Speaker 5: which is really cool. We walked through a semi sketchy neighborhood,
Speaker 5: but I think that's the part of it. And now
Speaker 5: we're at this cool rooftop bar.
Speaker 2: You're at the rooftop bar right now.
Speaker 5: I came downstairs.
Speaker 2: I okay, okay, then I'll then, I'll, I will, I will,
Speaker 2: I will make our conversation brief so that you may
Speaker 2: continue to to network. I'll say this, I'll say this.
Speaker 2: I Well, good on you, because a lot of people, uh,
Speaker 2: they're they just won't even fucking try to overcome their
Speaker 2: anxiety and doing things. But you're in a you're in
Speaker 2: a cool spot. I appreciate you because you're you know,
Speaker 2: going after it anyway. Uh and also, by the way,
Speaker 2: you know you're good. You're totally gonna say stupid things
Speaker 2: that don't make sense. That's like an inherent thing. And
Speaker 2: I do this. I I lately. I'm I'm on a
Speaker 2: big kick of you know what, if I said something
Speaker 2: that was stupid, maybe I did, Maybe I'm insane, you
Speaker 2: know what. That's how that's how I go into it. Now,
Speaker 2: that's what we do. You know, if I if I say,
Speaker 2: if I was weird, if I was, I don't know,
Speaker 2: why do why do I have to be perfect? Maybe
Speaker 2: I'm a little insane, and maybe that's fine if I'm not.
Speaker 2: If I'm not fucking perfect, you know, so uh, I mean,
Speaker 2: you try your best to throw yourself out there and
Speaker 2: communicate with other human beings, but it's never I have
Speaker 2: those interactions all the time where I'm like, that was
Speaker 2: a little weird. But you know, here's that. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: get existential for a second, and I know, but it
Speaker 2: applies to all of everything. You know, nobody, you don't
Speaker 2: really colloquially you not you specifically, but colloquially you don't
Speaker 2: matter that much to people, which is good, right, it's good.
Speaker 2: So nobody even if the thing that you think people
Speaker 2: are like, oh that was a little weird, they're not.
Speaker 2: They don't even care, you know, unless if you're being
Speaker 2: a dick. That's the only thing you can be like.
Speaker 2: You can be kind of awkward, you can bet you can't.
Speaker 2: You can be a little annoying, you can be kind
Speaker 2: of awkward, and as long as you're not like an asshole.
Speaker 2: No one really cares. That's why I hate television and movies.
Speaker 2: I know that's such a broad thing to hate, and
Speaker 2: this is a stupid thing to say, but I hate
Speaker 2: we you know what it is. We've watched I'm gonna
Speaker 2: this is such an old man ran. We've watched so
Speaker 2: many movies and TV shows where every thing that everyone
Speaker 2: says makes sense. That's where I like doing this podcast
Speaker 2: is sometimes it's awkward. Sometimes we talk over each other
Speaker 2: or someone calls and it's a little awkward or I'm
Speaker 2: a little awkward. I'm saying things that don't make sense,
Speaker 2: and it's that's good. I think there should be more. Uh,
Speaker 2: we've we've we've modeled our ideas of what a conversation
Speaker 2: should be like over like this kind of perfected version
Speaker 2: of it instead of just accepting that we live in
Speaker 2: a stupid, weird world. So, you know, all this to say,
Speaker 2: you're you're You're fine, You're uh, you're going after it.
Speaker 2: You know, you you don't have you don't have to
Speaker 2: be you don't have to make a hundred percent success
Speaker 2: not success sense. You don't have to make one hundred
Speaker 2: percent sense as long as you're just existing positively, you know,
Speaker 2: because that's what most people I think care about is
Speaker 2: you know, you're uh, You're you're easy. You know, you're
Speaker 2: easy to be around. You're excited, excited to be alive.
Speaker 2: You're not a dick or a bummer. So whatever you
Speaker 2: say something it doesn't make sense, or a joke that
Speaker 2: is stupid, you know who cares it gives a shit?
Speaker 5: So uh yeah, And I'm just trying to put myself,
Speaker 5: you know, there for so just so that you know,
Speaker 5: the company knows that I value, you know, being a
Speaker 5: part in the music industry and it's something I'm passionate
Speaker 5: about and it's something i really want to branch out too.
Speaker 5: So I'm just like trying to just make conversation and like,
Speaker 5: you know, ask about how they got there or like
Speaker 5: internships or just talking about the day or like shooting
Speaker 5: shooting the ship, so that you know that I'm there
Speaker 5: as not only a colleague and you know, but as
Speaker 5: a friend as well. And so I'm trying. I'm You're right,
Speaker 5: I just have to, you know, just go in it positively.
Speaker 5: And and I think that's what I've been doing. And
Speaker 5: I'm like I've shown that that I'm super excited to
Speaker 5: be here. And I'm really enthusiastic about being here too, because.
Speaker 3: I mean, what the fuck they sent.
Speaker 5: Me to New York, you know, like that's crazy. I've
Speaker 5: never been here and this is my first time like
Speaker 5: flying out.
Speaker 2: What do you.
Speaker 3: Have?
Speaker 2: You spent much time outside of Phoenix.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've gone to like Mexico, I've gone to like
Speaker 5: different states and stuff. I think the biggest city I've
Speaker 5: been to is Chicago. But I mean, I've never been
Speaker 5: to New York. So it's also a cool experience for me.
Speaker 5: And in my downtime, I'm hoping it can check out
Speaker 5: Central Park, so I'm gonna see my first subway experience,
Speaker 5: which is gonna be cool. I had some pizza walking
Speaker 5: down the street, saw some rats. Now I'm at a
Speaker 5: rooftop bar with my amazing, beautiful, lovely coworkers that I
Speaker 5: get to hang out for what's for the week. It
Speaker 5: is really nice and I.
Speaker 2: Really just sorry, go ahead, go ahead, And I'm.
Speaker 5: Really just trying to remember that and and you know,
Speaker 5: be blessed for where I'm at and not let my
Speaker 5: stupid fucking social anxiety or you know, my weird awkwardness
Speaker 5: that I think I have doesn't get in a way
Speaker 5: because like you said, it's not that deep, you know,
Speaker 5: like no, so people aren't gonna perceive it that way.
Speaker 5: It's just myself that's perceiving it that way. And I
Speaker 5: think that's what I'm I'm just working at so I.
Speaker 2: Do, you know, I it's yeah, the more uh yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, it's funny. Things are really about perspective, right
Speaker 2: because uh yeah, New York is now just like uh,
Speaker 2: like riding the subway. I do it every day, you know,
Speaker 2: but I forgot it's like a thing, you know, or
Speaker 2: like a lot of weird shit that you do. You
Speaker 2: forget is like a thing you know.
Speaker 5: Right because you do it so often.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, Angie. I don't want to keep you waiting
Speaker 2: from your friends. I think you should go up and
Speaker 2: enjoy that that rooftop bar. But I'm glad that you
Speaker 2: called and uh checked in. I'm glad. I you know.
Speaker 2: Just remember you can be say whatever you want, no
Speaker 2: no one cares. I mean, I maybe that might be
Speaker 2: terrible advice, but I I feel it in my heart.
Speaker 5: Is there anything to just say things? Just just talk?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 5: I feel like I have important things to say. Some
Speaker 5: might not be important for it. But you know, I
Speaker 5: always I'm conversating.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 2: people of the computer but before we go, No, that
Speaker 2: is it.
Speaker 5: Thank you so much. I really appreciate it, and I
Speaker 5: love you so much.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Good luck
Speaker 2: with the good luck with John Summitt. I heard he's
Speaker 2: I heard he's heard he I heard he makes music.
Speaker 3: Yes, he does make music.
Speaker 5: A lot of people pop music.
Speaker 2: Bye, Angie, have a good night.
Speaker 5: Thanks by bank.
Speaker 2: John Summitt. Uh who is I'm going to look him up?
Speaker 2: John Summitt, John Summit, it's not John's. Oh look at
Speaker 2: this guy. This is like a little This is a
Speaker 2: little guy. He's a guy. He makes music. He plays
Speaker 2: the what does he play? He plays dance music. He
Speaker 2: was born in Naperville, Illinois, thirty one years old. What
Speaker 2: a life? Isn't that crazy? Isn't that? I don't ever
Speaker 2: thinking a lot about all the uh lives you could live?
Speaker 2: Think about it? One, how many people have ever been born?
Speaker 2: Hold on? This is where this is what we're doing tonight.
Speaker 2: Hold on? How many? This is? How many people have
Speaker 2: ever been born? Okay, one hundred and twenty billion? Human
Speaker 2: beings are estimated to have been born in all of history.
Speaker 2: And if and if you're lucky, you get to be
Speaker 2: and if you're the lucky one of one hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty billion, you get to be John's summit. Look at
Speaker 2: this guy. We uh he performed at Coachella. This guy.
Speaker 2: Or you could be addicted to methamphetamine. John Summitt might
Speaker 2: be addicted to methamphetamine. We don't know him that well.
Speaker 2: It could be. You could live in uh Waterloo, Iowa
Speaker 2: and work at a bank. You could be. You could
Speaker 2: live in in Venezuela on like a farm. You could
Speaker 2: just be. You could be an old Venezuelan man. You
Speaker 2: could be John Summitt. You could. There's so many people,
Speaker 2: there's so many people you can be, well, not really,
Speaker 2: you could you really you only get to be one.
Speaker 2: You only get to be one person. But there's so
Speaker 2: many people that there that are being that one person
Speaker 2: is a lot. Good for John Summitt. I hope, uh,
Speaker 2: I hope, yes, I hope he has sex today. Thank
Speaker 2: you for calling Angie. Hello, Hye, how's it going?
Speaker 1: You know better now than I'm talking to you. Actually,
Speaker 1: I really can't believe I'm on the phone with you
Speaker 1: right now. I was not expecting this.
Speaker 2: Have we ever spoken before?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: No, no, we have not, sweet kick ass. What's your name?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: Uh well, my name isn't Kevin, but let's we'll go
Speaker 1: with Kevin.
Speaker 2: Okay, Kevin. You sent me a text. You said I
Speaker 2: have little faith in your advice on making friends and
Speaker 2: finding community, even though you're probably right. So I want
Speaker 2: to do so. I want to take this message you
Speaker 2: sent me, and I want to do a few things.
Speaker 2: One is I want to get an idea of because
Speaker 2: I say a lot of things and then I forget
Speaker 2: what they are because I'm because I have dementia. And
Speaker 2: so first what First tell me what your understanding of
Speaker 2: my advice on how to make friends is, and then
Speaker 2: tell me why you have a little faith in it?
Speaker 2: And okay, I'm not saying And I want and I
Speaker 2: want you to be fucking honest with me. I don't
Speaker 2: want this is I if you think I want you
Speaker 2: to notice for if you think you'll offend me, I
Speaker 2: mean this with my soul. Is if you think you'll
Speaker 2: offend me by disagreeing with me, you'll offend me so
Speaker 2: much more by lying to me about your true feelings
Speaker 2: about what I saw, so.
Speaker 1: So I would never I would never lie to you.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean I believe I'm you know what I'm choosing.
Speaker 2: I'm trusting you that you want. I'm trusting you that
Speaker 2: you want. So tell me why you have a little
Speaker 2: faith in this.
Speaker 1: Well, it might be hard for me to describe. It's
Speaker 1: more just a gut feeling, but I guess I'll start with, uh,
Speaker 1: what my impression of your advice on the topic is,
Speaker 1: which is you know, it seems like I've heard you
Speaker 1: express this multiple times to different people, but you usually
Speaker 1: say something along the lines of like just going out
Speaker 1: there and you know, finding a group that is centered
Speaker 1: around like a hobby or interest you have and inserting
Speaker 1: yourself in it and continuously going to it, even if
Speaker 1: it's awkward and weird the first few times. And if
Speaker 1: there isn't a group like that, then creating it yourself.
Speaker 1: And you know, that sounds like it would probably work.
Speaker 1: But you know, I've been trying that myself. Granted it
Speaker 1: hasn't been very long, but I just it just really
Speaker 1: feels like it's not going to go anywhere. And I
Speaker 1: just started university and I really don't have any friends
Speaker 1: or I do, but not where I'm living. And I
Speaker 1: feel very lonely, very frequently. And you know, I've tried
Speaker 1: going to multiple clubs because you know, university is a
Speaker 1: great place to join these types of groups you're talking about,
Speaker 1: but it's I don't know, it's so hard to talk
Speaker 1: to people even when you're at these clubs, and I
Speaker 1: always just go home from them, walking by myself as
Speaker 1: always and just feeling like I didn't make any real connections.
Speaker 2: Okay, how old are you? Nineteen? I'm eighteen, you're eighteen? Okay,
Speaker 2: all right. I have a lot of questions. Did you
Speaker 2: have friends when you were in high school?
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 1: I have very good friends. I'm still friends with them.
Speaker 2: Oh great, buddy, Sorry, I have more questions. I have
Speaker 2: more questions for you before I I have more questions
Speaker 2: for you. But brother, it's September as a recording this,
Speaker 2: that is September eighteenth, I know, which means which means
Speaker 2: that you have been at school for less than a month.
Speaker 1: Correct, Yes, no, I know.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, let me tell you. I have more questions
Speaker 2: for you. But let me tell you something I went
Speaker 2: to almost hold of I what year is it? Where
Speaker 2: do I live. September of twenty sixteen, I started going
Speaker 2: to college at Temple University in Philadelphia. I've probably talked
Speaker 2: about this a lot before, but I'll do it again.
Speaker 2: And God, I hated. I hated those first UH. Hated
Speaker 2: that first year. I had struggled a lot that first year,
Speaker 2: feeling weird, fucking I didn't connect with any of these
Speaker 2: fucking people that I was trying to connect with. I
Speaker 2: tried to join a I tried to join a frat.
Speaker 2: I remember being at a frat party once and like
Speaker 2: trying to get a bartender's attention and just like standing
Speaker 2: there with a cup at this frat party, being like
Speaker 2: this is what, just feeling horrible, just feeling like I
Speaker 2: didn't matter, and I was a I'm in this thing
Speaker 2: that nobody gives it shit that I'm there, and I'm
Speaker 2: just I just don't I have no identity. And I
Speaker 2: walked home from I walked home that night alone, very sad.
Speaker 2: And then I tried to meet people in my dorm
Speaker 2: and I felt like I didn't give a fuck about
Speaker 2: any of those people, or or that those people kind
Speaker 2: of had their groups figured out and I didn't. Uh.
Speaker 2: And then I started playing super smash brothers. May and
Speaker 2: I made a few friends there, but it what, it
Speaker 2: didn't really pan out, and I hate it. I just
Speaker 2: wanted to drop out of college and like go like
Speaker 2: be a filmmaker or some ship. I just didn't have
Speaker 2: any semblance of self I felt. I felt, I felt
Speaker 2: sincerely unaligned. Yeah, and then I started doing Uh. And
Speaker 2: I had been doing stand up comedy when I was
Speaker 2: in high school and I and I stopped doing it
Speaker 2: as much. Then I started doing it again. Then I
Speaker 2: started hosting this comedy club in my basement. And then
Speaker 2: once I started doing that, Uh, sophomore year, second half
Speaker 2: of sophomore year. Yeah, sophomore year. So it was about
Speaker 2: a year. It took about a year, I mean, and
Speaker 2: that that changed everything. Uh, And then I started I
Speaker 2: really really feel like I found a place where I belonged.
Speaker 2: So I have more questions for you, but I just
Speaker 2: wanted to get throw that out there. That was my
Speaker 2: college experience. It sucked. I hate it. I was miserable. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I, Uh, it takes a while, it's it's not
Speaker 2: it takes a long time. So where have you been going?
Speaker 2: What have you been doing?
Speaker 1: I so I played guitar, I found the music club
Speaker 1: that hosts weekly jam sessions, so I've been to that.
Speaker 1: There's like not thirty I don't know. There was like
Speaker 1: ten other people playing guitar that showed up, so we're
Speaker 1: all like playing over each other and it just doesn't
Speaker 1: sound good at all, which isn't really why I went,
Speaker 1: so I guess kind of irrelevant. But you know, obviously
Speaker 1: I spoke to a few people, and you know, it
Speaker 1: was cordial and stuff. But you know, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: How many, how many? How many times do you go?
Speaker 2: How many times did you go to this guitar jam session?
Speaker 2: If you say, if you say that was the only
Speaker 2: time you went, well, was that the only time? Was
Speaker 2: that the only time you went?
Speaker 1: I've been once. Yeah, I'm sorry, I've been.
Speaker 2: You know, No, you don't have to you know it. No,
Speaker 2: it's not no, it's not embarrassing. It's not embarrassing. It's
Speaker 2: just it's uh, or maybe it's a little embarrassing, but
Speaker 2: it's who gives a ship. Okay, go on, keep going.
Speaker 2: I want to hear more about your Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I intend to keep going to that. The other
Speaker 1: thing I've been to is a club, I guess about telescopes.
Speaker 1: It's like astrophotography and visual astronomy club. So I went
Speaker 1: to one of those. There's just basically a guy with
Speaker 1: one big telescope and a bunch of people standing around
Speaker 1: and him just kind of talking about Saturn, and you know,
Speaker 1: everyone took a turn looking, and uh yeah, I just
Speaker 1: I didn't speak to many people at that. Either I
Speaker 1: just find it so hard to start conversations or I
Speaker 1: don't know, but.
Speaker 2: How often does the telescope man bring his telescope?
Speaker 1: Honestly, I don't know. Maybe once a week, Okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: what else? Well, those are the only clubs I've been
Speaker 1: to Other than that. I mean, I've interacted with my
Speaker 1: roommate obviously, I've interacted with a couple of people on
Speaker 1: my floor. You know, I've spent time with them. I've
Speaker 1: gone out with them on the weekend. But again, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't have like zero faith that I'm gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, always I don't. I don't think I'm always
Speaker 1: going to be like alone and I'm never gonna make friends.
Speaker 1: Like you said, it took a year for yourself. But
Speaker 1: part of the reason I feel like I'm going to
Speaker 1: really struggle with this for a long time. Is because
Speaker 1: although I had really good friends in high school and
Speaker 1: still have them as my friends, I didn't really make them.
Speaker 1: They kind of made me. I sort of was adopted,
Speaker 1: I joined. I started high school with zero friends because
Speaker 1: I don't really know how to make friends, and a
Speaker 1: kid who remembered me from elementary school sort of almost
Speaker 1: made it his job to make himself and his friends
Speaker 1: my friend.
Speaker 3: And.
Speaker 1: You know, and then we did become very good friends.
Speaker 1: But that wasn't really my doing. I was just kind
Speaker 1: of lucky enough for that to happen to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but but but you.
Speaker 2: Know, you know, yes, oh my god, what's your name again? Kevin? Kevin? Yes, Kevin,
Speaker 2: you got very you know what I'm This is fun.
Speaker 2: I like having this conversation. Yes, yes, you got lucky.
Speaker 2: You did. That's what happens. That's kind That's the only
Speaker 2: way you successfully do anything. That's the only way that you,
Speaker 2: I think, find a relationship or start something or have
Speaker 2: like a thing that you start, pop off or make
Speaker 2: friends is you get lucky. But one of the best
Speaker 2: ways to get lucky, and I do believe in and
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be a bullshitter here because I
Speaker 2: do believe in inherent, blind, true, honest to god luck.
Speaker 2: I do believe in that. But also the more that
Speaker 2: you luck finds you, the more you put yourself in
Speaker 2: situations for it to find you. Yeah, and it's a
Speaker 2: mother fucking grind. It's hard. You're also dealing with the
Speaker 2: throes of loneliness and they're actively eating your brain, in
Speaker 2: soul and your self esteem. And I know, guys, I
Speaker 2: know what this feels like. So they're corroding you from
Speaker 2: with you know, I don't know if that I don't
Speaker 2: know if that's how you feel, but you know, yeah
Speaker 2: I feel yeah, yeah, yeah, you feel corroded. But you
Speaker 2: have to keep trying and you have to believe because
Speaker 2: you only went once to these fucking things. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm part of I'll tell you more. I'm you know,
Speaker 2: the thing I told you about with the thing in
Speaker 2: my college is just one exact I have so many
Speaker 2: examples of that from my life now that I'm even
Speaker 2: thinking about it. I remember when I was sixteen, I
Speaker 2: started doing stand up and I went to like I
Speaker 2: would go to these bars and I would just I
Speaker 2: felt so uncomfortable. I wouldn't talk to anyone because I
Speaker 2: was like sixteen, these guys were like twenty one. Ever,
Speaker 2: and I just kept going. I just kept going. Eventually
Speaker 2: you see the same people, and you know, I would
Speaker 2: just I I have a nice community now at this
Speaker 2: co working space that I edit my videos at. It's nice.
Speaker 2: And I I remember showing up. They were having this
Speaker 2: thing that they do where everyone like presents the stuff
Speaker 2: that they're working on. I remember the first time I
Speaker 2: showed up to that and I and I showed up
Speaker 2: kind of observing this culture that already existed without me,
Speaker 2: you know, and and and I'm just witnessing it and
Speaker 2: I'm seeing it, and I'm and I this is the
Speaker 2: first time, and I've I was like, fuck, man, I
Speaker 2: want to kill myself, like a fuck that. Like I
Speaker 2: just felt bad. I know, you know, I felt bad,
Speaker 2: But I kept going and I kept talking to people.
Speaker 2: And now I show up there, I feel so comfortable.
Speaker 2: I feel great. I know people there. I feel great
Speaker 2: being there because I didn't because I let myself just
Speaker 2: keep going. And I even said this as part of
Speaker 2: my speel on it is that you is that it's
Speaker 2: part of the process to be sitting there while there's
Speaker 2: an while while you're observing this pre existing culture that
Speaker 2: doesn't need you and doesn't care about you, and because
Speaker 2: you just because you just showed up, and that's that's
Speaker 2: that's supposed to feel bad. It's supposed to feel bad
Speaker 2: and corrosive. So when so when you show up to
Speaker 2: guitar place for the first time, where you go to
Speaker 2: chess club and everyone has their jokes, everyone has their things,
Speaker 2: and they the first day, it's supposed to feel But
Speaker 2: if you do that and it feels bad, that's such normal,
Speaker 2: you know the way. I don't know where people are
Speaker 2: getting this idea that you're supposed to Uh, everything's supposed
Speaker 2: to be amazing off the bat. Sometimes you fucking get
Speaker 2: lucky and everything's amazing off the bat. You know. I'm
Speaker 2: doing this video right now about the gathering of the
Speaker 2: Juggalos and uh, that's a place. That's a place where
Speaker 2: a lot of people show up and they're welcomed off
Speaker 2: the bat and they just feel Sometimes that happens if
Speaker 2: you're lucky. Sometimes that happens. If you're lucky. You show
Speaker 2: up and you assimilate into the culture immediately and the
Speaker 2: arms are wide open. Uh. And some times that happens,
Speaker 2: and you know what, you know what, you know how
Speaker 2: you get lucky into that happening is showing up to
Speaker 2: a bunch of different places. But even but if you
Speaker 2: don't find a place where the arms are open immediately,
Speaker 2: you still have to keep showing up like like five times,
Speaker 2: and not only show up five times, but also like
Speaker 2: be like, hey, everyone, like what guitar was a guitar club?
Speaker 2: What was the other one?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Telescope telescope. You gotta also organize organize the things because
Speaker 2: you're you're also not the only person that uh feels
Speaker 2: this way, So organize the thing because you have to
Speaker 2: find it. You have to provide value to the community
Speaker 2: in some way, right, Like fucking if everyone like what
Speaker 2: uh crap, Okay, now I have telescope one and I
Speaker 2: forget the other one. I don't know why my brain
Speaker 2: Yeah hold on, so wait, this is I'm embarrassed, right,
Speaker 2: let me can we pause for one second? Hold on?
Speaker 2: Telescope club and guitar club. Telescope Club and guitar club
Speaker 2: go to go to a fucking local bar and be like, Hey,
Speaker 2: we're gonna book, We're gonna put on a show for
Speaker 2: the guitar club, whatever, anything you can do to to
Speaker 2: to contribute to be a part of the culture. You
Speaker 2: can't show up. You can't show up and expect to
Speaker 2: become part of part of the culture immediately. And you
Speaker 2: can't show up and expect to be part of the
Speaker 2: culture without contributing to it in some way, shape or form.
Speaker 2: But I swear on my life if you if you
Speaker 2: show up consistently and you creatively contribute to the culture,
Speaker 2: you're You're there. You're fucking there. And it's the the
Speaker 2: people that get fucked are the ones that that that
Speaker 2: don't allow themselves to go past the the initial discomforts
Speaker 2: that you feel when you're in a place that you
Speaker 2: are just no, doesn't give a shit about you. But
Speaker 2: but you got but but yeah, but there's some so
Speaker 2: much lies beyond that, and you're you feel corroded because
Speaker 2: you had high expectations and you wanted everything fucking immediately,
Speaker 2: because that was, for for whatever reason, the way that
Speaker 2: you felt things were supposed to go, and that didn't
Speaker 2: didn't go that way. But that's but it's not supposed
Speaker 2: to it's not supposed to go that way. You're supposed
Speaker 2: to feel everything that you're feeling is normal feeling that
Speaker 2: you're supposed to feel. But you just keep going. But
Speaker 2: just keep so keep going. You know, it's been a
Speaker 2: mon month. Man, it's been a month. You're eighteen, don't get.
Speaker 4: Don't don't yell at me.
Speaker 1: Okay, no, But you know, it's funny because the friends
Speaker 1: that I made in high school, actually when I first
Speaker 1: started hanging out with them, you know, they were already
Speaker 1: friends with each other and I wasn't friends with them.
Speaker 1: And actually it was the similar thing where the first
Speaker 1: few times I hung out with them, it was weird
Speaker 1: for me, and it did take a while, but yeah,
Speaker 1: now they're, you know, my best friends. So I do
Speaker 1: think you're right. Uh, yeah, I understand I'm very young
Speaker 1: and insecure and all that, but yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: There was a caller who, if you remember, I don't know, recently,
Speaker 1: who talked about also feeling alone on the university campus
Speaker 1: and he would talk about, uh, always seeing other people
Speaker 1: in groups and him always being by himself, and I
Speaker 1: related to that. And then I've noticed, and I think
Speaker 1: he did as well, that if you look around, there
Speaker 1: really are a lot of other people walking around by
Speaker 1: themselves as well. But surprisingly. I thought that realization would
Speaker 1: bring me solace. But you know, the fact that other
Speaker 1: people are suffering doesn't really make me feel better about
Speaker 1: my stuffering.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I don't I don't. I don't like that.
Speaker 2: I well, I don't like that. For uh, I don't
Speaker 2: like looking at Here's what I don't like. I don't
Speaker 2: like looking at oh, everyone's probably having fun or and
Speaker 2: I also don't like looking at not everyone's having fun
Speaker 2: because both it it's detracting still from yourself, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? This is about you. It's not about
Speaker 2: anyone else. So so who cares who's having fun and
Speaker 2: who's not. It's not it's not even a relevant thing
Speaker 2: to your uh plan of action? You know. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: I just put your put your put your blinders on,
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, be a little entrepreneurial about it. Bring up,
Speaker 2: bring up fucking pie two uh to the crab and
Speaker 2: I forgot both of them. Guitar class.
Speaker 4: And yeah, well I do bake.
Speaker 2: So you know you baked. You do so much. Ship, dude,
Speaker 2: you'll be fine. Just keep going. I know. That's yeah,
Speaker 2: So ship? Why am I why don't I know anything anymore?
Speaker 2: This all makes perfect sense to me. I think I
Speaker 2: think I did a good job of this phone call.
Speaker 2: I think I'm good at doing this podcast.
Speaker 1: I think so too, because otherwise I wouldn't listen to it.
Speaker 2: Kevin yep, Oh my god, Kevin, mhm Kevin, Kevin, Kevin, Yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: uh yeah, just yeah. This is all, this is all
Speaker 2: part of the plan. Please call me in a year.
Speaker 2: I'm dead serious. I'm one hundred percent, So call me.
Speaker 2: Email me in a year, Email me any when you're nineteen.
Speaker 2: If you email me any, I'll tell you. I'll tell
Speaker 2: you what If you email me in a year and
Speaker 2: you're like, I went to ten different events, and I
Speaker 2: went to each of them six times. I try talking
Speaker 2: to a bunch of people there, and I did. I
Speaker 2: did X, Y and Z to contribute to the community,
Speaker 2: and I'm I still feel horrible. Then then I'll eat
Speaker 2: my own diarrhea. I really will. I will eat that. No. No, no,
Speaker 2: I no, no, I I You're not This isn't I'm
Speaker 2: not asking you for permission for this. I'm just telling
Speaker 2: you what I'm going to do. If you send me
Speaker 2: that message, well I.
Speaker 1: Guess I can't let that happen then, because I don't
Speaker 1: want to see you do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's not about whether it's just it's not
Speaker 2: if that, if that happened, if that is if you
Speaker 2: send me, if you send me that, No, it's not
Speaker 2: selfish at all. It's nothing. If you send me that
Speaker 2: message and you and it's not like a troll like
Speaker 2: it's actually what you did. I'll I'll diarrhea a little
Speaker 2: bit into a dixie cup and I'll eat it. I
Speaker 2: really will. I'm one hundred percent serious. So do all
Speaker 2: do all those things?
Speaker 1: I will, I will. I'm not giving up yet. I
Speaker 1: just uh, you know, I think you know, I don't.
Speaker 2: Know, Kevin, is there anything else you want to say
Speaker 2: to the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: You know, I think the the lower class needs to unite,
Speaker 1: not to get political, but the left and right divide
Speaker 1: needs to change into the upper and lower divide.
Speaker 2: Kevin, where this is? This is like an entirely new conversation. Uh,
Speaker 2: but I'll be You're I I call me back and
Speaker 2: I'm dead serious. Call me back or send me an
Speaker 2: email therapy get go mail at gmail dot com in
Speaker 2: a year and tell me tell me if this worked. Okay, Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: good luck Kevin. I'm I'm rooting for you.
Speaker 1: Thank you. That means a lot.
Speaker 2: Have a good name, man, you too. I'll do it.
Speaker 2: I will eat a dixie cup of diarrhea if he
Speaker 2: sends me and I'm gonna and I need a photo
Speaker 2: idea that it's Kevin or that it's not, because someone's
Speaker 2: gonna now just message me in a year being like
Speaker 2: that I'm Kevin and I won't and I but I'm
Speaker 2: not gonnan't know if I believe it. Uh, friendship, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's supposed to feel a little weird h for the
Speaker 2: first bit, but you move you move past it, and
Speaker 2: you you show up with something. You gotta show up
Speaker 2: with something, you know, provide something, be a part of
Speaker 2: the thing. It's it's straightforward. It's a relative. It's kind
Speaker 2: of a you know what it is. It's like it's
Speaker 2: like all things in life where the process is relatively straightforward. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but it's his time consuming. It's like working out. It's
Speaker 2: like going to the gym and expecting to be ripped
Speaker 2: after like two days, which I do. Oh man, thanks
Speaker 2: for listening to this podcast. I'm Lyle, I'm a gecko.
Speaker 2: Do I have anything else to say? Thanks? For everyone.
Speaker 2: Thank you guys for all of the awesome comments that
Speaker 2: you left on the last episode last Wednesday's episode with Steve.
Speaker 2: Steve's a fucking homie. Yeah, we talked for a little
Speaker 2: bit of our email. He said he got some emails
Speaker 2: that was crazy. That was the best episode. That might
Speaker 2: be that you know what, content for best episode of
Speaker 2: the podcast. I laughed, I cried. It was a good time.
Speaker 2: I appreciate this. I like this load of this community
Speaker 2: of people listening to this show. I'm grateful for it.
Speaker 2: I'm honored by it. I feel less insane than I
Speaker 2: did about two hours ago. So this was good for
Speaker 2: me to This was therapeutic. This was a good Thursday
Speaker 2: night spent in a dark room talking to strangers on
Speaker 2: my computer. I won't regret this when I'm old and decrepit. Okay,
Speaker 2: thank you all. Please show other people this podcast. Oh
Speaker 2: like it, subscribe it, pee on it. This rate five stars.
Speaker 2: I've been drinking so much fresca. The podcast is over. Please,
Speaker 2: if you're please, please please don't keep listening unless you
Speaker 2: want to hear me say random bullshit until I've realized
Speaker 2: that I've spoken too much. But this is not officially
Speaker 2: consider this not part of the podcast, even though it's
Speaker 2: gonna go in. Officially consider this not when you're evaluating
Speaker 2: the quality of this podcast. Please officially consider this not
Speaker 2: part of the listening experience, because I'm just gonna spend
Speaker 2: the next I'm gonna spend until I get bored talking
Speaker 2: about how much I love Fresca. That's so awesome, it's great.
Speaker 2: It's grapefruit, soda water. Who owned is it? Coca Cola's
Speaker 2: Coca Cola. Fucking shit, I didn't know that. I didn't
Speaker 2: know Coca Cola owned Fresco. Yeah, it's bottled in Atlanta.
Speaker 2: What the ingredients? Carbonated water, citric acid. This is not
Speaker 2: you can leave. You can go, it's over. Don't don't.
Speaker 2: If I see a fucking iTunes review that says like
Speaker 2: he rambled about Fresco, I'm you didn't, then that's just
Speaker 2: a person who didn't listen to the instructions. It's all
Speaker 2: going in the podcast, but it's not. It's not officially anything.
Speaker 2: All right, concentrated grapefruit juice, potassium situate. You can move
Speaker 2: on to the next episode. Aspartame everyone's been talking about aspartame.
Speaker 2: I'm googling this is aspertain, Actually that bad for you aspartame.
Speaker 2: Aspertame is a low calorie artificial sweetener which is two
Speaker 2: hundred times sweeter than sugar. What the fuck? Okay. Scientific
Speaker 2: evidence has continued to support the FDA's conclusion that aspertam
Speaker 2: is safe for the general population when made under good
Speaker 2: manufacturing practices and used under the improved conditions of use.
Speaker 2: Studies suggest a link between long term aspartame consumption and
Speaker 2: increased abdominal fat. That's so fucking that's fucking such bullshit.
Speaker 2: Why can't anything be easy? And aspertame potassium sorbates acassia gum.
Speaker 2: I drink like three of these a day. I'll wake
Speaker 2: up in the middle of the night and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'll wake up in the middle of the night. My
Speaker 2: body wants water, and I give it Fresco. I love
Speaker 2: Fresco so much. There's no caffeine in it. There's a
Speaker 2: caffeine free product. Fuck what else? Anything else? Please? Please
Speaker 2: stop listening to this. Please, the episode's over. Please stop listening.
Speaker 2: The episode's over. There's no more, there's nobody. This is
Speaker 2: not part of the thing. Is there anything else? Uh?
Speaker 2: Do I have any secrets I want to share? I no,
Speaker 2: I don't want to. I don't really want to. I'm
Speaker 2: putting out what days, Today's Today, Wednesday? Oh yeah, go
Speaker 2: on Today's. Uh the I'm releasing this episode. Wait, no,
Speaker 2: I don't know when I'm releasing this episode. It's either
Speaker 2: we're going to be on a Sunday or a Wednesday.
Speaker 2: Like all the episodes are released, you can stop. I'm done.
Speaker 2: There's no more content. It's just this. You can move
Speaker 2: on nothing. At the end of this. If I go
Speaker 2: onto my Spotify analytics and I don't see a strong
Speaker 2: drop off around this part, I'll actually be upset that
Speaker 2: people are still listening to this. There should be there objectively,
Speaker 2: should be a strong audience drop off analytically about five
Speaker 2: minutes ago. It should be like a ninety percent drop
Speaker 2: off I could. I'm gonna look at the analytics and
Speaker 2: if it's not, and if people are listening to this,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be pissed off. What's in this bottle of
Speaker 2: water besides water, is what is the ingredients to these minerals? Okay,
Speaker 2: the ingredients purified water. This is a Kirkland water bottle.
Speaker 2: Purified water, potassium by carbonate, sodium by car been a
Speaker 2: calcium citrate. Why not just fucking water? Why do you
Speaker 2: need all the other stuff? What are you guys gonna
Speaker 2: do tonight? What's everyone? What do you What's what's everyone
Speaker 2: doing tonight? The podcast is over. There's no more podcasts
Speaker 2: of this What's everyone gonna do tonight? This is too long.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna go. Where else am I gonna go?
Speaker 2: What am I gonna do? I'm gonna all right, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go. I gotta leave where I could stay. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go. Okay, thanks for listening to the Therapy Gicle podcast.
Speaker 2: I love having sex with uh with with with uh
Speaker 2: wicker baskets h. My name is Lyle and I am
Speaker 2: putting this on the internet. Okay, thank you for you.
Speaker 2: Next time goes on the line taking your phone calls
Speaker 2: every night, the repon goes doing his hide's teaching you
Speaker 2: to a loud of your life, but he's not read
Speaker 2: me an expert