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Speaker 1: Hello, Hi.

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Speaker 2: What is your name?

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Speaker 3: Hi? This is Chelsea.

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Speaker 2: Chelsea. What's up, Chelsea? How's your night going?

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Speaker 4: It's good?

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Speaker 3: Is this Lyle?

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Speaker 2: This is yes? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Wow? No way have we spoken before?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: Never? Well?

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Speaker 2: How nice we How nice that we finally get to

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Speaker 2: get the chat. I'm here, you know what, Chelsea, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna let you know right now. I'm nowhere, but here

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Speaker 2: you have my full, complete, utter attention right now. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm I feel I feel very locked

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Speaker 2: in today, so so let's let's do that. I'm not

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Speaker 2: even I'm turning all the brightness on my computer down

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Speaker 2: and I've been looking at the fucking computer.

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Speaker 3: Uh on the phone.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Chelsea? How you doing?

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Speaker 3: I'm good. I'm just I'm hanging out with this cat

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Speaker 3: that I'm fostering. I just got home from being out

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Speaker 3: in the city. I also live in New York City.

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Speaker 2: What were you doing out? What were you doing out?

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Speaker 3: I was meeting up with a friend who we both

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Speaker 3: like working for each other, but like don't meet up

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Speaker 3: do this? So we we finally did it, and now

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Speaker 3: we're planning like an October fest you know, outing on partifle.

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Speaker 3: So we were we were kind of like bonding over

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Speaker 3: the fact that, like we have all these friends that

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Speaker 3: are like, let's hang out, and then we never do.

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Speaker 3: So we're trying to take action on that.

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Speaker 2: That's good. Yeah, it's always good to hang out with

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Speaker 2: your friends, unless if your friends are our serial killers.

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Speaker 2: I'm m I'm going to try to have a normal conversation.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why I'm feeling the need to do

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Speaker 2: to do that. Okay, let me ask you this, Chelsea,

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Speaker 2: And it's fine if not. We can go in a

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Speaker 2: million different directions with directions with this. But was there

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Speaker 2: anything specific that you uh you said You've been listening

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Speaker 2: to the podcast for a long time, so you've probably

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Speaker 2: heard all the things. And I'm not saying necessarily that

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Speaker 2: we have to talk about any depressing things from your life,

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Speaker 2: unless if you want to. But I am saying that, uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, you've been listening to the podcast, you kind

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Speaker 2: of understand, uh, what's up? So I'll ask you if

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Speaker 2: is there anything in particular that you wanted to dive

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Speaker 2: into while we're while I'm motherfucking locked in to the

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Speaker 3: Well, there was something I thought of so you know

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Speaker 3: that one caller that was talking about they were like

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Speaker 3: on their first date in the car.

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Speaker 2: I was just thinking of about that today, if you

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Speaker 2: would believe it?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I listened to that episode, and then I

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Speaker 3: was listening to the gek Mail episode where they followed

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Speaker 3: up on that. M Do you remember that?

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Speaker 2: How I do?

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Speaker 3: She was like, this is what, like, this is my

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Speaker 3: going through it like with just like a weird non

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Speaker 3: I mean it like not easy, Like it definitely took

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Speaker 2: So since you you've found in this secure relationship, you've

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was. I was telling my sister, like

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Speaker 2: How long have you been with this guy for?

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Speaker 3: I mean it's only it's only been a month, but

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is yeah, this is this is one of

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Speaker 2: the can I can I ask how old you are?

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Speaker 3: I'm thirty two.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and you just met this skuy a month ago? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and this is the this is the would you say

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Speaker 3: I was even telling him. I was like, I'm normally

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Speaker 3: I'm normally like really nervous around like guys or people

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Speaker 2: Are you are you? Do you feel calm in general?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which is kind of crazy because I definitely am, like,

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Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, yeah, this is really funny because there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of there's competing narratives that exist in the world,

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Speaker 2: each of them possessing their own validities. I promise I'm

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Speaker 2: going to say something. There's competing narratives in the world,

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Speaker 2: each of them possessing their own validities. One narrative says

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Speaker 2: You know, you want love, and then when you find it,

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Speaker 2: lies somewhere between those two places. Right, because I just

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Speaker 2: it's a weird, bullshit narrative. I think it's a bullshit

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Speaker 2: narrative that yeah, uh, you know you're supposed to be

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Speaker 2: But on the flip side is, of course, if your

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Speaker 2: just what's going through my mind as I'm hearing you

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Speaker 3: No, I was gonna say, like I saw something where

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Speaker 3: it's like everyone says that, you know, it takes a

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Speaker 3: point of like having those people is like you know,

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Speaker 3: I've thought about, you know, when it comes to like

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Speaker 3: But yeah, uh, it's a give and take, so you

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Speaker 2: This is the first time you're thirty two. This is

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Speaker 2: the first time you ever felt.

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Speaker 3: Calm, I mean relationship wise. Yeah, it's like I haven't

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Speaker 2: That's good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I was gonna say, but I got into your

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Speaker 3: just like listen to your podcast whenever I would be

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Speaker 3: And I would recommend it to my friends whenever they're

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm happy to be uh an accompaniment of

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Speaker 2: your emo walk. I treat I'm honored dear that hmm.

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Speaker 2: So this is the so after many years, you're like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: And yeah, and I think what really also clicked was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I told him, I was like, I

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Speaker 2: Your your your thing is that you want to be worshiped.

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Speaker 2: See how older or younger?

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Speaker 3: He's two years younger. But I'm a I am a

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Speaker 2: Mm hmmmm okay, okay, does that worry you at all?

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Speaker 2: Like do you risk? Can you have respect for someone

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Speaker 2: who blindly worships you?

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Speaker 3: I do in a sense of like we we really

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Speaker 3: but no, I I think I respect it because to me,

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Speaker 3: I feel like a man who can lean into his

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Speaker 3: I'm just like, what's the point, Like do you even

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Speaker 2: You know guys who won't hold your fucking hand?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? No, these exist, They're out there.

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Speaker 2: And crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't know, Like growing up, I would

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Speaker 3: be like eupda, But now that I'm in a relationship,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I like PDA, like to to a

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Speaker 3: and it's okay, how did you How did.

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Speaker 2: You meet this this gentlemen?

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Speaker 3: I met him on Hinge? I had the app for like,

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Speaker 2: Good good. Chelsea. There's a whole neighborhood in New York

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Speaker 2: Chelsea and Chelsea. Yeah, mm hmmm, well what now it's Chelsea? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: before we go? What now?

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Speaker 2: Uh? What now?

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Speaker 2: Chelsea?

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Speaker 3: I think we just have to be honest with ourselves

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Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the

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Speaker 3: Yes, I've thought about this. Get a bidet if you

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Speaker 2: We need a bidet sponsor. I'm dying to get a

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Speaker 2: good day. Man. I hate my asshole is always changing

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll change your life. It's a great feeling.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Chelsea. You have a good rest of the night.

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Speaker 4: Hello, what's up?

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Speaker 4: Hey? What's up?

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Speaker 2: What's your name?

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Speaker 4: Not much, man, I just wanted to see you. Know, No,

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Speaker 4: I feel like no one ever hass how you're doing?

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Speaker 4: How are you doing, buddy?

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Speaker 2: How am I doing?

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Speaker 4: Yes, sir?

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Speaker 2: My honest answer is that I actually I don't really

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Speaker 4: I just feel like a month in and wanting to

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Speaker 2: Tell Okay, it sounds like you're speaking from some form

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Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah, So basically, it just you know, you get

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Speaker 4: that makes any sense. Yes, and so I'm worried that,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I see what you mean. I see what you mean,

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Speaker 4: Can lead to a lot of really really tough decisions

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Speaker 4: I'm thirty one.

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Speaker 2: Did you have a woman in your life once you

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't say worshiped, but it was like a heavy codependency.

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Speaker 2: Sure, yeah yeah, or that want or or that wanted

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Speaker 4: Innocent. Yeah, like a big sense of not like what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny, I I I've had my own experience

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Speaker 4: To exactly that feeling of being needed is always it's fulfilling.

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Speaker 2: It's the best, it's the best. I mean, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you come back down to ground. Imagine and you

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Speaker 2: And why would you not do that? Why would you

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Speaker 2: if you get like the kid, the people who are like, yeah,

438
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: I met my uh, I met this lady at a

439
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 2: bar and we got married in two weeks afterwards. That's

440
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: not a weird story to me. There used to be

441
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: a weird story to me, And now it makes perfect sense.

442
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't know if it makes perfect sense. Yeah,

443
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: I don't even know if it makes perfect sense in

444
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: terms of this is a logistically good decision, but it

445
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: makes perfect sense as to why people are driven to

446
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 2: do that. It's perfect sense. You know.

447
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 4: Sometimes it just you know, it could just take that

448
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 4: one spark to you know, change something different in that

449
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 4: person's life, which could lead to a better life for

450
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 4: that person individually as well.

451
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I also I used to think it was

452
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 2: like stupid, but I sometimes it just you can you

453
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 2: can connect with the person if you really motherfucking connect

454
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: with a person, especially if you're like weird and you

455
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 2: don't connect with a lot of people and you finally

456
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 2: find someone you do kind of connect with, it's like, yeah,

457
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 2: I could get while you're like, well, fuck, let's go

458
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 2: all in. You know, when the fuck I've never felt

459
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 2: this way before, Let's keep going. But it also has

460
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 2: the potential to leave you high and dry. But you

461
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: know what else has the potential to leave you high

462
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 2: and dry? I mean, remember the lady a few episodes

463
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: ago who got divorced. She did everything right. That was

464
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: her whole thing. She did everything right. She dated for

465
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,239
Speaker 2: like she lived. She got married the way that like

466
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 2: my fucking parents did, in a way where they date

467
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 2: for a while, like the normal shit. You date for

468
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: a while, and then do you decide maturely, on a mature,

469
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: regular adult timeline to have children and to get married

470
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: and to do all these things, and then she then

471
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 2: you get left high and dry fucking doing it that way, right,

472
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 2: So no matter how you do it, no matter how

473
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: you do it, you risk being thrown in a dumpster.

474
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 2: So you know what I'm saying, Am I making any sense?

475
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 4: You absolutely are. I think you're speaking perfectly to be home,

476
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 4: because I mean it could it could happen anyway, and

477
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 4: whatever works for you works for you. But there is

478
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 4: always that risk. So whatever works for you, you just

479
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 4: gotta go with what you feel.

480
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: There's all the times where like a fucking like some

481
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 2: you know, this is one of the ways in which

482
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 2: I think I've matured, is like I I've been going

483
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 2: back and like because I there's like there's like calls

484
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: from like there's a bunch of calls from like twenty

485
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 2: twenty two that I recorded and never did anything with,

486
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: and I'm going back and putting them on the Patreon

487
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 2: and I'm like listening to some of them and I'm like,

488
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: in the like three years ago, if someone called me

489
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 2: and they're like, I'm eighteen and I'm getting married to

490
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: my other eighteen year old girlfriend, I'd be like, and

491
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: I still think I'm a little bit right, but I'd

492
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 2: be like, this is so, this is really stupid and

493
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 2: you shouldn't do this. It's not gonna work. And I

494
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 2: would be very, i think, convinced about that. But the

495
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: older I get, the more I realized I don't know

496
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: any everything's beyond me. And there's been plenty of I'm

497
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: sure relationships like that that crash and burn because of

498
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 2: the obvious reasons why they might crash and burn, but

499
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: then plenty that just keep going, you know. I Mean,

500
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 2: we had that guy on the podcast. He's thirty two,

501
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 2: been with the same lady since he was fucking sixteen,

502
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 2: So like, it's not a one size fits all solution. Well,

503
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stop talking in generalities. What's your name.

504
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 4: My name is Brandon.

505
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: How's your love life going? Brandon?

506
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 4: Right, now I'm single, very cautiously.

507
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 2: Single, cautiously single. You're thirty one, Yes, sir? What is

508
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: cautiously single? Man? What's the difference between single and cautiously single?

509
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 4: Well, when I was younger, you know, I just go

510
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 4: out have a good time, didn't really care about what

511
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 4: would have happen. You know, sometimes you meet a girl

512
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 4: and things just turn into situationship, relationship, whatever it may be.

513
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 4: But as you go on, you really have to start

514
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 4: putting things in perspective and realizing, like you know, sometimes

515
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 4: one good night is a good night, but you got

516
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 4: you gotta really focus on what what the goals are

517
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 4: in your life and who can match those and what

518
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 4: what's suitable for you?

519
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. What what did you get put through

520
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 2: the ringer.

521
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 4: A little bit? Yeah, it was just a lot of

522
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 4: ups and downs, moviescarriage, all different sorts of financial struggles,

523
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 4: mental struggles. So now it's just kind of like you know, you,

524
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,959
Speaker 4: I'm really focused on. Timing isn't really my issue. It's

525
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 4: more of hitting hitting the target where I need to,

526
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 4: If that makes any sense.

527
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: I explain a little more hitting the target when you

528
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: need to.

529
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 4: Like my goals, who I want in my life that

530
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 4: can help me achieve those goals. Who has goals themselves

531
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 4: that I can help them achieve. Work as a as

532
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 4: a team, not necessarily individuals, but you know, individually a

533
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 4: team if that makes any sense, where we can both

534
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 4: succeed and try and just build something together that's more

535
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 4: than just the initial feeling of oh my gosh, this

536
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 4: person is so great, I want to be with this person,

537
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 4: and more of like, all right, let's let's take things

538
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 4: real slow and see, you know how how are we

539
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 4: going to be feeling about this and in a month,

540
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 4: six months, a year, like, are we still on the

541
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 4: same page, same wavelength? Is everything working out? Things of

542
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 4: that nature.

543
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 2: M I still believe. I think I'm holding on hope

544
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 2: where I'm like, I'm gonna find someone and it's it's

545
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 2: just gonna be easy, you know what I mean.

546
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 4: I don't know, Oh yeah, that would be the goal.

547
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 4: But and that's why when you go through some really

548
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 4: hard hardships and tough relationships sometimes maybe I'm just a

549
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 4: little jaded, but sometimes I have to really slow down

550
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 4: and not just get caught up and wrapped up in

551
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 4: the emotion.

552
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 2: I've met people in a personal life and on the

553
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 2: show and then whatever where they're like, uh, some people,

554
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: some people that is easy. I think some people that

555
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 2: is just easy. And then other people, Uh, yeah, they're

556
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 2: a little they're a little more jaded about it. You

557
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 2: know that a lot of that ship, I feel like

558
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: depends on the luck of the draw of your own

559
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 2: personal experiences and whatever hand you got adults, as as

560
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: who you are.

561
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 4: Exactly.

562
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:20,959
Speaker 2: But I appreciate this sentiment, this was I appreciate your counterpoints.

563
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it and it's it's nothing against Chelsea, like

564
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 4: I don't think it is. Things work out for her,

565
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 4: and even if they don't, I mean, there's always time.

566
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 4: There's what eight billion people on the Earth. There's there's

567
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 4: plenty of time, people, So you just gotta find what's

568
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 4: good for you.

569
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 2: You know. I don't like the whole there's eight billion

570
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 2: people on Earth thing, because I mean some of them

571
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 2: are children, so that that you know, hopefully that hopefully

572
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 2: there that takes them out, hopefully they're not on the

573
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 2: So there's that. And then several billion of them only

574
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 2: speak Chinese, uh, which is fine, weill is fine if

575
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 2: you speak Chinese, but it probably difficult if you don't,

576
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 2: so uh. And then another few billion of them only

577
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 2: speak uh what, Spanish maybe and if you'll if you

578
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 2: don't speak Spanish, that you're fucked on that. So this,

579
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: I don't think there's really a there's not eight brilliant

580
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,240
Speaker 2: you don't have a billion. And then and then also

581
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 2: a lot of those billion people are just way hotter

582
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 2: than you and don't they would never consider being with you,

583
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: so you gotta So I'm gonna say there's probably and

584
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 2: then not also a lot of the I'm not done.

585
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: And then also a lot of them live in places

586
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: that you'll know some of them is some of those

587
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 2: a billion people live in Macedonia. So I think the

588
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 2: saying should really be that it's also a lot of

589
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 2: them are men or women, which I don't know if

590
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 2: you're gay or straight or whatever. But if you're not

591
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 2: that white out four billion people, uh so you probably

592
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: at least I think the more realistic way of saying

593
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 2: that is there's probably at least just four or five

594
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 2: other people who are willing to go on a date

595
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 2: with you the next two years, maybe more than that

596
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 2: if you're you know, if you if you get ripped.

597
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there's definitely variables. I agree with you on that.

598
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what's your name again, Brandon? Brandon? I appreciate you, Brandon.

599
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the

600
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go, No, sir, just.

601
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 4: I hope you all get the help that you need

602
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 4: from therapy get go, and I hope therapy Gecko is

603
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 4: doing good himself.

604
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 2: I'm trying my best, man. I appreciate you asking. I'll

605
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: see you around the universe.

606
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 4: All right. Bye?

607
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 2: That was Brandon. Eight billion people on the Earth. I

608
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 2: don't know. This is probably more than that now, but again,

609
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 2: it's like how many. I think there's websites that you

610
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 2: can go to where you can put in like what

611
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 2: you're looking for in a partner, and it narrows it down.

612
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 2: It's way, it's so much less than eight billion, you know. Anyway,

613
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 2: I just you know, I'm saying all this stuff to,

614
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: you know, make all you guys feel more optimistic. Do

615
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 2: do Do Do Do Do Do Do. Hi wile yes, Hi?

616
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 2: Who Who to whom am I speaking?

617
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 3: Hi?

618
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 5: This is Angie, Angie.

619
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 2: What's up, Angie? How's life going?

620
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 4: Yes?

621
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 5: Life is a fabulous I am currently in New York

622
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 5: City with a few co workers working at Music festival

623
00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 5: this weekend and just kind of trying not to let

624
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 5: my social anxiety get in the way of a great

625
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 5: opportunity because I'm kind of like sitting at tables with

626
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 5: directors and you know, like managers and supervisors, which is

627
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 5: the first time I've gotten to sit with them and

628
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 5: talk to them and get one on one time with them.

629
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 5: So I'm really just trying to put myself out there.

630
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 5: But I flew in today. I left this morning at

631
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 5: about six am, and now I'm here. I had some pizza,

632
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 5: it was really good. This is my first time in New.

633
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 3: York City as well.

634
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 5: And we were walking to this rooftop bar and it

635
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 5: shid ton of rats just came and ran across us

636
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 5: and scared the shit out of me.

637
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: There's a lot of rats.

638
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 3: I was like, what the hill I was in.

639
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 5: I came from Phoenix, and obviously I don't just see

640
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 5: rats scaring around anywhere, so it was pretty crazy. I

641
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 5: definitely helped and clenched onto somebody next to me because

642
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 5: that was a whole new experience for me because it

643
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 5: was not only one, it.

644
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 3: Was like seven of them.

645
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: So, what's this music festival happening this weekend?

646
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 5: So it's John Summit's music festival. It's called Experts Only.

647
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 5: It's going to be at Randall's Island. I have yet

648
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 5: to look at the site yet, and then to go

649
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 5: there tomorrow morning and get everything set up and kind

650
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 5: of get my areas set up as well and view

651
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 5: the site and stuff. So that's pretty exciting. I worked

652
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,439
Speaker 5: for I do festivals in Phoenix, Arizona, and they're doing

653
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 5: this event as well in New York. So they asked

654
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 5: me to join, and my first time traveling with work

655
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 5: for this, so I was ecstatic. I was so like

656
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 5: super excited, super happy and trying to make my way

657
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 5: in the industry and kind of dabbling in a different

658
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 5: areas and things to figure out what exactly I want

659
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 5: to do and network. But I'm just I know the

660
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 5: industry is a lot of networking and talking to people,

661
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 5: but that's not my forte. I really have to just

662
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 5: like okay, just say something, like talk about something, bring

663
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 5: something up or instead of just like wasting you know,

664
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,919
Speaker 5: an opportunity that I have with the side op directors

665
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 5: and the directors of the festival and marketing directors, so

666
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 5: I can, you know, so they at least know who

667
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 5: I am, but I just have I guess, social anxiety anyway.

668
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 5: So I think I was really just overthinking the strips

669
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 5: the entire time up until I was leading with it.

670
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 5: But now I'm here and I'm really just trying to,

671
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 5: you know, make conversation. And I kind of like go

672
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 5: back to you when you do you like your email

673
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 5: getts and You're like, I'm just going to sit here

674
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 5: and challenge myself and just continuously like talk and talk

675
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 5: and talk for the next sixteen minutes or whatever you

676
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 5: do on your emails. So I've been doing my best

677
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 5: and just you know, trying to stay out of my

678
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 5: head of trying to be like overthinking everything like oh

679
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 5: did I say something stupid, did I not say something correctly?

680
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 5: Or because I always overthink it and I come back

681
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 5: to it fucking at two o'clock in the morning, I'm like, God,

682
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 5: damn it, I didn't say X Y and Z or

683
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 5: I should have said X, Y and Z and it

684
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 5: didn't happen the way I thought it should happen. So

685
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 5: just kind of put myself out there, and you know,

686
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 5: I've been with the company for three years and I

687
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 5: feel really honored and really blessed that my manager thought

688
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 5: about me and decided to send me here. And now

689
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 5: I'm here. So just we're at this rooftop pop bar,

690
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 5: which is really cool. We walked through a semi sketchy neighborhood,

691
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 5: but I think that's the part of it. And now

692
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 5: we're at this cool rooftop bar.

693
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 2: You're at the rooftop bar right now.

694
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 5: I came downstairs.

695
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: I okay, okay, then I'll then, I'll, I will, I will,

696
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: I will make our conversation brief so that you may

697
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 2: continue to to network. I'll say this, I'll say this.

698
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 2: I Well, good on you, because a lot of people, uh,

699
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 2: they're they just won't even fucking try to overcome their

700
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 2: anxiety and doing things. But you're in a you're in

701
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 2: a cool spot. I appreciate you because you're you know,

702
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 2: going after it anyway. Uh and also, by the way,

703
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 2: you know you're good. You're totally gonna say stupid things

704
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: that don't make sense. That's like an inherent thing. And

705
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 2: I do this. I I lately. I'm I'm on a

706
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 2: big kick of you know what, if I said something

707
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 2: that was stupid, maybe I did, Maybe I'm insane, you

708
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 2: know what. That's how that's how I go into it. Now,

709
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 2: that's what we do. You know, if I if I say,

710
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 2: if I was weird, if I was, I don't know,

711
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 2: why do why do I have to be perfect? Maybe

712
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: I'm a little insane, and maybe that's fine if I'm not.

713
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 2: If I'm not fucking perfect, you know, so uh, I mean,

714
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 2: you try your best to throw yourself out there and

715
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 2: communicate with other human beings, but it's never I have

716
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 2: those interactions all the time where I'm like, that was

717
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:33,919
Speaker 2: a little weird. But you know, here's that. I'm gonna

718
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 2: get existential for a second, and I know, but it

719
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 2: applies to all of everything. You know, nobody, you don't

720
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 2: really colloquially you not you specifically, but colloquially you don't

721
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 2: matter that much to people, which is good, right, it's good.

722
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 2: So nobody even if the thing that you think people

723
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: are like, oh that was a little weird, they're not.

724
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 2: They don't even care, you know, unless if you're being

725
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 2: a dick. That's the only thing you can be like.

726
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: You can be kind of awkward, you can bet you can't.

727
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 2: You can be a little annoying, you can be kind

728
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 2: of awkward, and as long as you're not like an asshole.

729
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 2: No one really cares. That's why I hate television and movies.

730
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 2: I know that's such a broad thing to hate, and

731
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 2: this is a stupid thing to say, but I hate

732
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 2: we you know what it is. We've watched I'm gonna

733
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 2: this is such an old man ran. We've watched so

734
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 2: many movies and TV shows where every thing that everyone

735
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: says makes sense. That's where I like doing this podcast

736
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 2: is sometimes it's awkward. Sometimes we talk over each other

737
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 2: or someone calls and it's a little awkward or I'm

738
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 2: a little awkward. I'm saying things that don't make sense,

739
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 2: and it's that's good. I think there should be more. Uh,

740
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 2: we've we've we've modeled our ideas of what a conversation

741
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 2: should be like over like this kind of perfected version

742
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: of it instead of just accepting that we live in

743
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 2: a stupid, weird world. So, you know, all this to say,

744
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 2: you're you're You're fine, You're uh, you're going after it.

745
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: You know, you you don't have you don't have to

746
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 2: be you don't have to make a hundred percent success

747
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,479
Speaker 2: not success sense. You don't have to make one hundred

748
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 2: percent sense as long as you're just existing positively, you know,

749
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 2: because that's what most people I think care about is

750
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 2: you know, you're uh, You're you're easy. You know, you're

751
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 2: easy to be around. You're excited, excited to be alive.

752
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 2: You're not a dick or a bummer. So whatever you

753
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 2: say something it doesn't make sense, or a joke that

754
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 2: is stupid, you know who cares it gives a shit?

755
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 5: So uh yeah, And I'm just trying to put myself,

756
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 5: you know, there for so just so that you know,

757
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 5: the company knows that I value, you know, being a

758
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 5: part in the music industry and it's something I'm passionate

759
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 5: about and it's something i really want to branch out too.

760
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 5: So I'm just like trying to just make conversation and like,

761
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 5: you know, ask about how they got there or like

762
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 5: internships or just talking about the day or like shooting

763
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 5: shooting the ship, so that you know that I'm there

764
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 5: as not only a colleague and you know, but as

765
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 5: a friend as well. And so I'm trying. I'm You're right,

766
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 5: I just have to, you know, just go in it positively.

767
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 5: And and I think that's what I've been doing. And

768
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 5: I'm like I've shown that that I'm super excited to

769
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 5: be here. And I'm really enthusiastic about being here too, because.

770
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 3: I mean, what the fuck they sent.

771
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 5: Me to New York, you know, like that's crazy. I've

772
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 5: never been here and this is my first time like

773
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 5: flying out.

774
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 2: What do you.

775
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 3: Have?

776
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 2: You spent much time outside of Phoenix.

777
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've gone to like Mexico, I've gone to like

778
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 5: different states and stuff. I think the biggest city I've

779
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 5: been to is Chicago. But I mean, I've never been

780
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 5: to New York. So it's also a cool experience for me.

781
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 5: And in my downtime, I'm hoping it can check out

782
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 5: Central Park, so I'm gonna see my first subway experience,

783
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 5: which is gonna be cool. I had some pizza walking

784
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 5: down the street, saw some rats. Now I'm at a

785
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 5: rooftop bar with my amazing, beautiful, lovely coworkers that I

786
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 5: get to hang out for what's for the week. It

787
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 5: is really nice and I.

788
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 2: Really just sorry, go ahead, go ahead, And I'm.

789
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 5: Really just trying to remember that and and you know,

790
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 5: be blessed for where I'm at and not let my

791
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 5: stupid fucking social anxiety or you know, my weird awkwardness

792
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 5: that I think I have doesn't get in a way

793
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 5: because like you said, it's not that deep, you know,

794
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 5: like no, so people aren't gonna perceive it that way.

795
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 5: It's just myself that's perceiving it that way. And I

796
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 5: think that's what I'm I'm just working at so I.

797
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 2: Do, you know, I it's yeah, the more uh yeah,

798
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 2: you know, it's funny. Things are really about perspective, right

799
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 2: because uh yeah, New York is now just like uh,

800
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 2: like riding the subway. I do it every day, you know,

801
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 2: but I forgot it's like a thing, you know, or

802
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 2: like a lot of weird shit that you do. You

803
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 2: forget is like a thing you know.

804
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 5: Right because you do it so often.

805
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 2: Well, listen, Angie. I don't want to keep you waiting

806
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 2: from your friends. I think you should go up and

807
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 2: enjoy that that rooftop bar. But I'm glad that you

808
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 2: called and uh checked in. I'm glad. I you know.

809
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 2: Just remember you can be say whatever you want, no

810
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 2: no one cares. I mean, I maybe that might be

811
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 2: terrible advice, but I I feel it in my heart.

812
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 5: Is there anything to just say things? Just just talk?

813
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 3: You know?

814
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 5: I feel like I have important things to say. Some

815
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 5: might not be important for it. But you know, I

816
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 5: always I'm conversating.

817
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the

818
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 2: people of the computer but before we go, No, that

819
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 2: is it.

820
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 5: Thank you so much. I really appreciate it, and I

821
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 5: love you so much.

822
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Good luck

823
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 2: with the good luck with John Summitt. I heard he's

824
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 2: I heard he's heard he I heard he makes music.

825
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 3: Yes, he does make music.

826
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 5: A lot of people pop music.

827
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 2: Bye, Angie, have a good night.

828
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 5: Thanks by bank.

829
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 2: John Summitt. Uh who is I'm going to look him up?

830
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 2: John Summitt, John Summit, it's not John's. Oh look at

831
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: this guy. This is like a little This is a

832
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 2: little guy. He's a guy. He makes music. He plays

833
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 2: the what does he play? He plays dance music. He

834
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 2: was born in Naperville, Illinois, thirty one years old. What

835
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 2: a life? Isn't that crazy? Isn't that? I don't ever

836
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 2: thinking a lot about all the uh lives you could live?

837
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 2: Think about it? One, how many people have ever been born?

838
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 2: Hold on? This is where this is what we're doing tonight.

839
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 2: Hold on? How many? This is? How many people have

840
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:18,879
Speaker 2: ever been born? Okay, one hundred and twenty billion? Human

841
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 2: beings are estimated to have been born in all of history.

842
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 2: And if and if you're lucky, you get to be

843
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 2: and if you're the lucky one of one hundred and

844
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 2: twenty billion, you get to be John's summit. Look at

845
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 2: this guy. We uh he performed at Coachella. This guy.

846
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 2: Or you could be addicted to methamphetamine. John Summitt might

847
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 2: be addicted to methamphetamine. We don't know him that well.

848
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 2: It could be. You could live in uh Waterloo, Iowa

849
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 2: and work at a bank. You could be. You could

850
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 2: live in in Venezuela on like a farm. You could

851
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 2: just be. You could be an old Venezuelan man. You

852
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 2: could be John Summitt. You could. There's so many people,

853
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 2: there's so many people you can be, well, not really,

854
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 2: you could you really you only get to be one.

855
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 2: You only get to be one person. But there's so

856
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 2: many people that there that are being that one person

857
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 2: is a lot. Good for John Summitt. I hope, uh,

858
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,399
Speaker 2: I hope, yes, I hope he has sex today. Thank

859
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 2: you for calling Angie. Hello, Hye, how's it going?

860
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: You know better now than I'm talking to you. Actually,

861
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: I really can't believe I'm on the phone with you

862
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: right now. I was not expecting this.

863
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 2: Have we ever spoken before?

864
00:55:58,239 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 4: Uh?

865
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 2: No, no, we have not, sweet kick ass. What's your name?

866
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 3: Man?

867
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 1: Uh well, my name isn't Kevin, but let's we'll go

868
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: with Kevin.

869
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 2: Okay, Kevin. You sent me a text. You said I

870
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 2: have little faith in your advice on making friends and

871
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 2: finding community, even though you're probably right. So I want

872
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 2: to do so. I want to take this message you

873
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 2: sent me, and I want to do a few things.

874
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,240
Speaker 2: One is I want to get an idea of because

875
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 2: I say a lot of things and then I forget

876
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 2: what they are because I'm because I have dementia. And

877
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 2: so first what First tell me what your understanding of

878
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 2: my advice on how to make friends is, and then

879
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 2: tell me why you have a little faith in it?

880
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 2: And okay, I'm not saying And I want and I

881
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 2: want you to be fucking honest with me. I don't

882
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 2: want this is I if you think I want you

883
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 2: to notice for if you think you'll offend me, I

884
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 2: mean this with my soul. Is if you think you'll

885
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 2: offend me by disagreeing with me, you'll offend me so

886
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 2: much more by lying to me about your true feelings

887
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 2: about what I saw, so.

888
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: So I would never I would never lie to you.

889
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean I believe I'm you know what I'm choosing.

890
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 2: I'm trusting you that you want. I'm trusting you that

891
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 2: you want. So tell me why you have a little

892
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 2: faith in this.

893
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: Well, it might be hard for me to describe. It's

894
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: more just a gut feeling, but I guess I'll start with, uh,

895
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: what my impression of your advice on the topic is,

896
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: which is you know, it seems like I've heard you

897
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: express this multiple times to different people, but you usually

898
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: say something along the lines of like just going out

899
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: there and you know, finding a group that is centered

900
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: around like a hobby or interest you have and inserting

901
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: yourself in it and continuously going to it, even if

902
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: it's awkward and weird the first few times. And if

903
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: there isn't a group like that, then creating it yourself.

904
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: And you know, that sounds like it would probably work.

905
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: But you know, I've been trying that myself. Granted it

906
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: hasn't been very long, but I just it just really

907
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: feels like it's not going to go anywhere. And I

908
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: just started university and I really don't have any friends

909
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: or I do, but not where I'm living. And I

910
00:58:55,840 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: feel very lonely, very frequently. And you know, I've tried

911
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: going to multiple clubs because you know, university is a

912
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: great place to join these types of groups you're talking about,

913
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: but it's I don't know, it's so hard to talk

914
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: to people even when you're at these clubs, and I

915
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: always just go home from them, walking by myself as

916
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: always and just feeling like I didn't make any real connections.

917
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 2: Okay, how old are you? Nineteen? I'm eighteen, you're eighteen? Okay,

918
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 2: all right. I have a lot of questions. Did you

919
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 2: have friends when you were in high school?

920
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 4: I did.

921
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: I have very good friends. I'm still friends with them.

922
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 2: Oh great, buddy, Sorry, I have more questions. I have

923
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 2: more questions for you before I I have more questions

924
00:59:56,240 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 2: for you. But brother, it's September as a recording this,

925
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 2: that is September eighteenth, I know, which means which means

926
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 2: that you have been at school for less than a month.

927
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 1: Correct, Yes, no, I know.

928
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, let me tell you. I have more questions

929
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 2: for you. But let me tell you something I went

930
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 2: to almost hold of I what year is it? Where

931
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 2: do I live. September of twenty sixteen, I started going

932
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 2: to college at Temple University in Philadelphia. I've probably talked

933
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 2: about this a lot before, but I'll do it again.

934
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 2: And God, I hated. I hated those first UH. Hated

935
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 2: that first year. I had struggled a lot that first year,

936
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 2: feeling weird, fucking I didn't connect with any of these

937
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 2: fucking people that I was trying to connect with. I

938
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 2: tried to join a I tried to join a frat.

939
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 2: I remember being at a frat party once and like

940
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 2: trying to get a bartender's attention and just like standing

941
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 2: there with a cup at this frat party, being like

942
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 2: this is what, just feeling horrible, just feeling like I

943
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 2: didn't matter, and I was a I'm in this thing

944
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 2: that nobody gives it shit that I'm there, and I'm

945
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 2: just I just don't I have no identity. And I

946
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 2: walked home from I walked home that night alone, very sad.

947
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 2: And then I tried to meet people in my dorm

948
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,919
Speaker 2: and I felt like I didn't give a fuck about

949
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 2: any of those people, or or that those people kind

950
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 2: of had their groups figured out and I didn't. Uh.

951
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 2: And then I started playing super smash brothers. May and

952
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 2: I made a few friends there, but it what, it

953
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 2: didn't really pan out, and I hate it. I just

954
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 2: wanted to drop out of college and like go like

955
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 2: be a filmmaker or some ship. I just didn't have

956
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 2: any semblance of self I felt. I felt, I felt

957
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 2: sincerely unaligned. Yeah, and then I started doing Uh. And

958
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 2: I had been doing stand up comedy when I was

959
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 2: in high school and I and I stopped doing it

960
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 2: as much. Then I started doing it again. Then I

961
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 2: started hosting this comedy club in my basement. And then

962
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 2: once I started doing that, Uh, sophomore year, second half

963
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:50,479
Speaker 2: of sophomore year. Yeah, sophomore year. So it was about

964
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 2: a year. It took about a year, I mean, and

965
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 2: that that changed everything. Uh, And then I started I

966
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 2: really really feel like I found a place where I belonged.

967
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 2: So I have more questions for you, but I just

968
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 2: wanted to get throw that out there. That was my

969
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 2: college experience. It sucked. I hate it. I was miserable. Yeah,

970
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 2: and I, Uh, it takes a while, it's it's not

971
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 2: it takes a long time. So where have you been going?

972
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 2: What have you been doing?

973
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: I so I played guitar, I found the music club

974
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 1: that hosts weekly jam sessions, so I've been to that.

975
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: There's like not thirty I don't know. There was like

976
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: ten other people playing guitar that showed up, so we're

977
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 1: all like playing over each other and it just doesn't

978
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 1: sound good at all, which isn't really why I went,

979
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: so I guess kind of irrelevant. But you know, obviously

980
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: I spoke to a few people, and you know, it

981
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 1: was cordial and stuff. But you know, I don't know,

982
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 1: I mean.

983
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 2: How many, how many? How many times do you go?

984
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 2: How many times did you go to this guitar jam session?

985
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 2: If you say, if you say that was the only

986
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 2: time you went, well, was that the only time? Was

987
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 2: that the only time you went?

988
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: I've been once. Yeah, I'm sorry, I've been.

989
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 2: You know, No, you don't have to you know it. No,

990
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 2: it's not no, it's not embarrassing. It's not embarrassing. It's

991
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 2: just it's uh, or maybe it's a little embarrassing, but

992
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 2: it's who gives a ship. Okay, go on, keep going.

993
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 2: I want to hear more about your Okay.

994
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I intend to keep going to that. The other

995
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 1: thing I've been to is a club, I guess about telescopes.

996
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 1: It's like astrophotography and visual astronomy club. So I went

997
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: to one of those. There's just basically a guy with

998
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 1: one big telescope and a bunch of people standing around

999
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: and him just kind of talking about Saturn, and you know,

1000
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 1: everyone took a turn looking, and uh yeah, I just

1001
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: I didn't speak to many people at that. Either I

1002
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 1: just find it so hard to start conversations or I

1003
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: don't know, but.

1004
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 2: How often does the telescope man bring his telescope?

1005
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: Honestly, I don't know. Maybe once a week, Okay, okay, okay,

1006
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 1: what else? Well, those are the only clubs I've been

1007
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: to Other than that. I mean, I've interacted with my

1008
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 1: roommate obviously, I've interacted with a couple of people on

1009
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,959
Speaker 1: my floor. You know, I've spent time with them. I've

1010
01:05:56,440 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 1: gone out with them on the weekend. But again, I mean,

1011
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: you know, I don't have like zero faith that I'm gonna,

1012
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 1: you know, always I don't. I don't think I'm always

1013
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 1: going to be like alone and I'm never gonna make friends.

1014
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: Like you said, it took a year for yourself. But

1015
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 1: part of the reason I feel like I'm going to

1016
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 1: really struggle with this for a long time. Is because

1017
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 1: although I had really good friends in high school and

1018
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 1: still have them as my friends, I didn't really make them.

1019
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: They kind of made me. I sort of was adopted,

1020
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 1: I joined. I started high school with zero friends because

1021
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 1: I don't really know how to make friends, and a

1022
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 1: kid who remembered me from elementary school sort of almost

1023
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: made it his job to make himself and his friends

1024
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 1: my friend.

1025
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 3: And.

1026
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 1: You know, and then we did become very good friends.

1027
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 1: But that wasn't really my doing. I was just kind

1028
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 1: of lucky enough for that to happen to me. Yeah,

1029
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 1: but but but you.

1030
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 2: Know, you know, yes, oh my god, what's your name again? Kevin? Kevin? Yes, Kevin,

1031
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 2: you got very you know what I'm This is fun.

1032
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 2: I like having this conversation. Yes, yes, you got lucky.

1033
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 2: You did. That's what happens. That's kind That's the only

1034
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 2: way you successfully do anything. That's the only way that you,

1035
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 2: I think, find a relationship or start something or have

1036
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:50,439
Speaker 2: like a thing that you start, pop off or make

1037
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 2: friends is you get lucky. But one of the best

1038
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 2: ways to get lucky, and I do believe in and

1039
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be a bullshitter here because I

1040
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 2: do believe in inherent, blind, true, honest to god luck.

1041
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 2: I do believe in that. But also the more that

1042
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 2: you luck finds you, the more you put yourself in

1043
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 2: situations for it to find you. Yeah, and it's a

1044
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:38,639
Speaker 2: mother fucking grind. It's hard. You're also dealing with the

1045
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 2: throes of loneliness and they're actively eating your brain, in

1046
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 2: soul and your self esteem. And I know, guys, I

1047
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:58,679
Speaker 2: know what this feels like. So they're corroding you from

1048
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 2: with you know, I don't know if that I don't

1049
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 2: know if that's how you feel, but you know, yeah

1050
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 2: I feel yeah, yeah, yeah, you feel corroded. But you

1051
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 2: have to keep trying and you have to believe because

1052
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 2: you only went once to these fucking things. I mean,

1053
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 2: I'm I'm part of I'll tell you more. I'm you know,

1054
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 2: the thing I told you about with the thing in

1055
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 2: my college is just one exact I have so many

1056
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 2: examples of that from my life now that I'm even

1057
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:46,719
Speaker 2: thinking about it. I remember when I was sixteen, I

1058
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 2: started doing stand up and I went to like I

1059
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 2: would go to these bars and I would just I

1060
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 2: felt so uncomfortable. I wouldn't talk to anyone because I

1061
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 2: was like sixteen, these guys were like twenty one. Ever,

1062
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:05,560
Speaker 2: and I just kept going. I just kept going. Eventually

1063
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 2: you see the same people, and you know, I would

1064
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 2: just I I have a nice community now at this

1065
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 2: co working space that I edit my videos at. It's nice.

1066
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 2: And I I remember showing up. They were having this

1067
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 2: thing that they do where everyone like presents the stuff

1068
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 2: that they're working on. I remember the first time I

1069
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 2: showed up to that and I and I showed up

1070
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 2: kind of observing this culture that already existed without me,

1071
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 2: you know, and and and I'm just witnessing it and

1072
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 2: I'm seeing it, and I'm and I this is the

1073
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 2: first time, and I've I was like, fuck, man, I

1074
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 2: want to kill myself, like a fuck that. Like I

1075
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 2: just felt bad. I know, you know, I felt bad,

1076
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 2: But I kept going and I kept talking to people.

1077
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 2: And now I show up there, I feel so comfortable.

1078
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,719
Speaker 2: I feel great. I know people there. I feel great

1079
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 2: being there because I didn't because I let myself just

1080
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 2: keep going. And I even said this as part of

1081
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 2: my speel on it is that you is that it's

1082
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 2: part of the process to be sitting there while there's

1083
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 2: an while while you're observing this pre existing culture that

1084
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 2: doesn't need you and doesn't care about you, and because

1085
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 2: you just because you just showed up, and that's that's

1086
01:11:56,360 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 2: that's supposed to feel bad. It's supposed to feel bad

1087
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 2: and corrosive. So when so when you show up to

1088
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 2: guitar place for the first time, where you go to

1089
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 2: chess club and everyone has their jokes, everyone has their things,

1090
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 2: and they the first day, it's supposed to feel But

1091
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 2: if you do that and it feels bad, that's such normal,

1092
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 2: you know the way. I don't know where people are

1093
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 2: getting this idea that you're supposed to Uh, everything's supposed

1094
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 2: to be amazing off the bat. Sometimes you fucking get

1095
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 2: lucky and everything's amazing off the bat. You know. I'm

1096
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 2: doing this video right now about the gathering of the

1097
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:42,879
Speaker 2: Juggalos and uh, that's a place. That's a place where

1098
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 2: a lot of people show up and they're welcomed off

1099
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 2: the bat and they just feel Sometimes that happens if

1100
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 2: you're lucky. Sometimes that happens. If you're lucky. You show

1101
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 2: up and you assimilate into the culture immediately and the

1102
01:12:56,520 --> 01:13:00,799
Speaker 2: arms are wide open. Uh. And some times that happens,

1103
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 2: and you know what, you know what, you know how

1104
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 2: you get lucky into that happening is showing up to

1105
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 2: a bunch of different places. But even but if you

1106
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,520
Speaker 2: don't find a place where the arms are open immediately,

1107
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:16,799
Speaker 2: you still have to keep showing up like like five times,

1108
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 2: and not only show up five times, but also like

1109
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 2: be like, hey, everyone, like what guitar was a guitar club?

1110
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 2: What was the other one?

1111
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 4: Uh?

1112
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 2: Telescope telescope. You gotta also organize organize the things because

1113
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:38,759
Speaker 2: you're you're also not the only person that uh feels

1114
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 2: this way, So organize the thing because you have to

1115
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,640
Speaker 2: find it. You have to provide value to the community

1116
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 2: in some way, right, Like fucking if everyone like what

1117
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 2: uh crap, Okay, now I have telescope one and I

1118
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 2: forget the other one. I don't know why my brain

1119
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 2: Yeah hold on, so wait, this is I'm embarrassed, right,

1120
01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 2: let me can we pause for one second? Hold on?

1121
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 2: Telescope club and guitar club. Telescope Club and guitar club

1122
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 2: go to go to a fucking local bar and be like, Hey,

1123
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 2: we're gonna book, We're gonna put on a show for

1124
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 2: the guitar club, whatever, anything you can do to to

1125
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 2: to contribute to be a part of the culture. You

1126
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:28,600
Speaker 2: can't show up. You can't show up and expect to

1127
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 2: become part of part of the culture immediately. And you

1128
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 2: can't show up and expect to be part of the

1129
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 2: culture without contributing to it in some way, shape or form.

1130
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 2: But I swear on my life if you if you

1131
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 2: show up consistently and you creatively contribute to the culture,

1132
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 2: you're You're there. You're fucking there. And it's the the

1133
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 2: people that get fucked are the ones that that that

1134
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:07,440
Speaker 2: don't allow themselves to go past the the initial discomforts

1135
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 2: that you feel when you're in a place that you

1136
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 2: are just no, doesn't give a shit about you. But

1137
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 2: but you got but but yeah, but there's some so

1138
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 2: much lies beyond that, and you're you feel corroded because

1139
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 2: you had high expectations and you wanted everything fucking immediately,

1140
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 2: because that was, for for whatever reason, the way that

1141
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 2: you felt things were supposed to go, and that didn't

1142
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 2: didn't go that way. But that's but it's not supposed

1143
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 2: to it's not supposed to go that way. You're supposed

1144
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 2: to feel everything that you're feeling is normal feeling that

1145
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 2: you're supposed to feel. But you just keep going. But

1146
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:57,560
Speaker 2: just keep so keep going. You know, it's been a

1147
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 2: mon month. Man, it's been a month. You're eighteen, don't get.

1148
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 4: Don't don't yell at me.

1149
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:10,719
Speaker 1: Okay, no, But you know, it's funny because the friends

1150
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,599
Speaker 1: that I made in high school, actually when I first

1151
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 1: started hanging out with them, you know, they were already

1152
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 1: friends with each other and I wasn't friends with them.

1153
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 1: And actually it was the similar thing where the first

1154
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 1: few times I hung out with them, it was weird

1155
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 1: for me, and it did take a while, but yeah,

1156
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 1: now they're, you know, my best friends. So I do

1157
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 1: think you're right. Uh, yeah, I understand I'm very young

1158
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 1: and insecure and all that, but yeah, I don't know.

1159
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 1: There was a caller who, if you remember, I don't know, recently,

1160
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:59,639
Speaker 1: who talked about also feeling alone on the university campus

1161
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 1: and he would talk about, uh, always seeing other people

1162
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 1: in groups and him always being by himself, and I

1163
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 1: related to that. And then I've noticed, and I think

1164
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 1: he did as well, that if you look around, there

1165
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 1: really are a lot of other people walking around by

1166
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 1: themselves as well. But surprisingly. I thought that realization would

1167
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 1: bring me solace. But you know, the fact that other

1168
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 1: people are suffering doesn't really make me feel better about

1169
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 1: my stuffering.

1170
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I don't I don't. I don't like that.

1171
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 2: I well, I don't like that. For uh, I don't

1172
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 2: like looking at Here's what I don't like. I don't

1173
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 2: like looking at oh, everyone's probably having fun or and

1174
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 2: I also don't like looking at not everyone's having fun

1175
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 2: because both it it's detracting still from yourself, you know

1176
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 2: what I mean? This is about you. It's not about

1177
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 2: anyone else. So so who cares who's having fun and

1178
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 2: who's not. It's not it's not even a relevant thing

1179
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 2: to your uh plan of action? You know. Yeah, so

1180
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 2: I just put your put your put your blinders on,

1181
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:22,640
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, be a little entrepreneurial about it. Bring up,

1182
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 2: bring up fucking pie two uh to the crab and

1183
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 2: I forgot both of them. Guitar class.

1184
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:38,639
Speaker 4: And yeah, well I do bake.

1185
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 2: So you know you baked. You do so much. Ship, dude,

1186
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:50,559
Speaker 2: you'll be fine. Just keep going. I know. That's yeah,

1187
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:56,919
Speaker 2: So ship? Why am I why don't I know anything anymore?

1188
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 2: This all makes perfect sense to me. I think I

1189
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 2: think I did a good job of this phone call.

1190
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 2: I think I'm good at doing this podcast.

1191
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 1: I think so too, because otherwise I wouldn't listen to it.

1192
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 2: Kevin yep, Oh my god, Kevin, mhm Kevin, Kevin, Kevin, Yes, yes, yes, yes,

1193
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 2: uh yeah, just yeah. This is all, this is all

1194
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 2: part of the plan. Please call me in a year.

1195
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 2: I'm dead serious. I'm one hundred percent, So call me.

1196
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:41,679
Speaker 2: Email me in a year, Email me any when you're nineteen.

1197
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 2: If you email me any, I'll tell you. I'll tell

1198
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 2: you what If you email me in a year and

1199
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 2: you're like, I went to ten different events, and I

1200
01:19:55,360 --> 01:20:00,679
Speaker 2: went to each of them six times. I try talking

1201
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 2: to a bunch of people there, and I did. I

1202
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:06,560
Speaker 2: did X, Y and Z to contribute to the community,

1203
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 2: and I'm I still feel horrible. Then then I'll eat

1204
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 2: my own diarrhea. I really will. I will eat that. No. No, no,

1205
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 2: I no, no, I I You're not This isn't I'm

1206
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:25,759
Speaker 2: not asking you for permission for this. I'm just telling

1207
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 2: you what I'm going to do. If you send me

1208
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 2: that message, well I.

1209
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 1: Guess I can't let that happen then, because I don't

1210
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 1: want to see you do that.

1211
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:40,599
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's not about whether it's just it's not

1212
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:43,720
Speaker 2: if that, if that happened, if that is if you

1213
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 2: send me, if you send me that, No, it's not

1214
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 2: selfish at all. It's nothing. If you send me that

1215
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 2: message and you and it's not like a troll like

1216
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 2: it's actually what you did. I'll I'll diarrhea a little

1217
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 2: bit into a dixie cup and I'll eat it. I

1218
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 2: really will. I'm one hundred percent serious. So do all

1219
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 2: do all those things?

1220
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 1: I will, I will. I'm not giving up yet. I

1221
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:16,120
Speaker 1: just uh, you know, I think you know, I don't.

1222
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 2: Know, Kevin, is there anything else you want to say

1223
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 2: to the people of the computer before we go?

1224
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:27,440
Speaker 3: Uh?

1225
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 1: You know, I think the the lower class needs to unite,

1226
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 1: not to get political, but the left and right divide

1227
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 1: needs to change into the upper and lower divide.

1228
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 2: Kevin, where this is? This is like an entirely new conversation. Uh,

1229
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 2: but I'll be You're I I call me back and

1230
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 2: I'm dead serious. Call me back or send me an

1231
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 2: email therapy get go mail at gmail dot com in

1232
01:21:56,800 --> 01:22:02,719
Speaker 2: a year and tell me tell me if this worked. Okay, Okay, okay,

1233
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 2: good luck Kevin. I'm I'm rooting for you.

1234
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 1: Thank you. That means a lot.

1235
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 2: Have a good name, man, you too. I'll do it.

1236
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:18,680
Speaker 2: I will eat a dixie cup of diarrhea if he

1237
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 2: sends me and I'm gonna and I need a photo

1238
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:23,639
Speaker 2: idea that it's Kevin or that it's not, because someone's

1239
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 2: gonna now just message me in a year being like

1240
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 2: that I'm Kevin and I won't and I but I'm

1241
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 2: not gonnan't know if I believe it. Uh, friendship, Yeah, yeah,

1242
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 2: it's supposed to feel a little weird h for the

1243
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:47,559
Speaker 2: first bit, but you move you move past it, and

1244
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 2: you you show up with something. You gotta show up

1245
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 2: with something, you know, provide something, be a part of

1246
01:22:56,360 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 2: the thing. It's it's straightforward. It's a relative. It's kind

1247
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 2: of a you know what it is. It's like it's

1248
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 2: like all things in life where the process is relatively straightforward. Yeah,

1249
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 2: but it's his time consuming. It's like working out. It's

1250
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:19,799
Speaker 2: like going to the gym and expecting to be ripped

1251
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 2: after like two days, which I do. Oh man, thanks

1252
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 2: for listening to this podcast. I'm Lyle, I'm a gecko.

1253
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 2: Do I have anything else to say? Thanks? For everyone.

1254
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 2: Thank you guys for all of the awesome comments that

1255
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 2: you left on the last episode last Wednesday's episode with Steve.

1256
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 2: Steve's a fucking homie. Yeah, we talked for a little

1257
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 2: bit of our email. He said he got some emails

1258
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 2: that was crazy. That was the best episode. That might

1259
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 2: be that you know what, content for best episode of

1260
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 2: the podcast. I laughed, I cried. It was a good time.

1261
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 2: I appreciate this. I like this load of this community

1262
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 2: of people listening to this show. I'm grateful for it.

1263
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 2: I'm honored by it. I feel less insane than I

1264
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 2: did about two hours ago. So this was good for

1265
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 2: me to This was therapeutic. This was a good Thursday

1266
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 2: night spent in a dark room talking to strangers on

1267
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 2: my computer. I won't regret this when I'm old and decrepit. Okay,

1268
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 2: thank you all. Please show other people this podcast. Oh

1269
01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:46,759
Speaker 2: like it, subscribe it, pee on it. This rate five stars.

1270
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 2: I've been drinking so much fresca. The podcast is over. Please,

1271
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 2: if you're please, please please don't keep listening unless you

1272
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:03,719
Speaker 2: want to hear me say random bullshit until I've realized

1273
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:08,600
Speaker 2: that I've spoken too much. But this is not officially

1274
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 2: consider this not part of the podcast, even though it's

1275
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 2: gonna go in. Officially consider this not when you're evaluating

1276
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 2: the quality of this podcast. Please officially consider this not

1277
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 2: part of the listening experience, because I'm just gonna spend

1278
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:35,280
Speaker 2: the next I'm gonna spend until I get bored talking

1279
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 2: about how much I love Fresca. That's so awesome, it's great.

1280
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 2: It's grapefruit, soda water. Who owned is it? Coca Cola's

1281
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 2: Coca Cola. Fucking shit, I didn't know that. I didn't

1282
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:53,879
Speaker 2: know Coca Cola owned Fresco. Yeah, it's bottled in Atlanta.

1283
01:25:55,120 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 2: What the ingredients? Carbonated water, citric acid. This is not

1284
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 2: you can leave. You can go, it's over. Don't don't.

1285
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 2: If I see a fucking iTunes review that says like

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Speaker 2: he rambled about Fresco, I'm you didn't, then that's just

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Speaker 2: a person who didn't listen to the instructions. It's all

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Speaker 2: going in the podcast, but it's not. It's not officially anything.

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Speaker 2: All right, concentrated grapefruit juice, potassium situate. You can move

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Speaker 2: on to the next episode. Aspartame everyone's been talking about aspartame.

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Speaker 2: I'm googling this is aspertain, Actually that bad for you aspartame.

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01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:46,040
Speaker 2: Aspertame is a low calorie artificial sweetener which is two

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01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 2: hundred times sweeter than sugar. What the fuck? Okay. Scientific

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Speaker 2: evidence has continued to support the FDA's conclusion that aspertam

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Speaker 2: is safe for the general population when made under good

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Speaker 2: manufacturing practices and used under the improved conditions of use.

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Speaker 2: Studies suggest a link between long term aspartame consumption and

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Speaker 2: increased abdominal fat. That's so fucking that's fucking such bullshit.

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Speaker 2: Why can't anything be easy? And aspertame potassium sorbates acassia gum.

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Speaker 2: I drink like three of these a day. I'll wake

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Speaker 2: up in the middle of the night and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I'll wake up in the middle of the night. My

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01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 2: body wants water, and I give it Fresco. I love

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01:27:52,200 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 2: Fresco so much. There's no caffeine in it. There's a

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01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 2: caffeine free product. Fuck what else? Anything else? Please? Please

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01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 2: stop listening to this. Please, the episode's over. Please stop listening.

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Speaker 2: The episode's over. There's no more, there's nobody. This is

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Speaker 2: not part of the thing. Is there anything else? Uh?

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Speaker 2: Do I have any secrets I want to share? I no,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to. I don't really want to. I'm

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Speaker 2: putting out what days, Today's Today, Wednesday? Oh yeah, go

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Speaker 2: on Today's. Uh the I'm releasing this episode. Wait, no,

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Speaker 2: I don't know when I'm releasing this episode. It's either

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Speaker 2: we're going to be on a Sunday or a Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Like all the episodes are released, you can stop. I'm done.

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01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 2: There's no more content. It's just this. You can move

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01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 2: on nothing. At the end of this. If I go

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Speaker 2: onto my Spotify analytics and I don't see a strong

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01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 2: drop off around this part, I'll actually be upset that

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Speaker 2: people are still listening to this. There should be there objectively,

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01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 2: should be a strong audience drop off analytically about five

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Speaker 2: minutes ago. It should be like a ninety percent drop

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Speaker 2: off I could. I'm gonna look at the analytics and

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01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 2: if it's not, and if people are listening to this,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be pissed off. What's in this bottle of

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01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 2: water besides water, is what is the ingredients to these minerals? Okay,

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01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 2: the ingredients purified water. This is a Kirkland water bottle.

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Speaker 2: Purified water, potassium by carbonate, sodium by car been a

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01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:05,080
Speaker 2: calcium citrate. Why not just fucking water? Why do you

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01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 2: need all the other stuff? What are you guys gonna

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01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:15,439
Speaker 2: do tonight? What's everyone? What do you What's what's everyone

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01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:20,680
Speaker 2: doing tonight? The podcast is over. There's no more podcasts

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Speaker 2: of this What's everyone gonna do tonight? This is too long.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna go. Where else am I gonna go?

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Speaker 2: What am I gonna do? I'm gonna all right, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna go. I gotta leave where I could stay. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna go. Okay, thanks for listening to the Therapy Gicle podcast.

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Speaker 2: I love having sex with uh with with with uh

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Speaker 2: wicker baskets h. My name is Lyle and I am

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01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:07,640
Speaker 2: putting this on the internet. Okay, thank you for you.

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01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:12,160
Speaker 2: Next time goes on the line taking your phone calls

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01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 2: every night, the repon goes doing his hide's teaching you

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01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:18,759
Speaker 2: to a loud of your life, but he's not read

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Speaker 2: me an expert