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Speaker 1: Welcome to the special edition of the Jack Doyle Podcast.

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Speaker 1: We got the off season edition, and I'm lucky to

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Speaker 1: be joined by the great Anthony Costanzo.

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Speaker 2: Ac. How's it going, man, It's great to have you

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Speaker 2: here and excited to catch up. Man, Yeah, this is

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Speaker 2: this is great. Like I like we have talked about.

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Speaker 2: You know, I always knew that your trajectory would end

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Speaker 2: up as a media personality because you were always so

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Speaker 2: gregarious to the media throughout your entire career, and I

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Speaker 2: know you were always just itching to get on camera. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I joke with my friends it's like my resume is

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Speaker 1: I really didn't work in high school. I was you know,

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Speaker 1: locked in on you know, sports and football. So it's

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Speaker 1: like Colts player podcaster. It's like, yeah, I did not

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Speaker 1: I did not see the trajectory of my life going

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Speaker 1: this way. But I'm having a ton of fun doing

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Speaker 1: it and especially you know, excited for this and getting

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Speaker 1: to catch up with you.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's great. So all right we'll start here.

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Speaker 3: Ac.

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Speaker 1: I always love hearing about you know, football players and

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Speaker 1: you know, their youth experience and and specifically an offensive

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Speaker 1: lineman because you know, at some point in your life

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Speaker 1: you know, you fell in love with football and then

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Speaker 1: at some point you have a coach tell you, hey,

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Speaker 1: you're never gonna touch the ball. You're gonna be you're

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Speaker 1: gonna be blocking.

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Speaker 2: All the time.

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Speaker 1: So you know, give us a little, uh a little

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Speaker 1: insight on on your kind of you know, youth growing

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Speaker 1: up and fall in love with the game of football.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think my my earliest football memory is, uh just

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Speaker 2: I would repeat constantly telling my dad that I want

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Speaker 2: to crush.

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Speaker 3: The quarterback like Richard Dent.

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Speaker 2: That's so I grew up in Chicago, so you know,

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Speaker 2: all I wanted to do was crush the quarterback. That

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Speaker 2: was like my dream was through a quarterbacks standing back there.

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Speaker 2: I needed to crush him. So obviously you see the

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Speaker 2: irony in that, but you know it kind of went

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Speaker 2: from that to kind of My next memory is just

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Speaker 2: always having a football in my hands. I was, I

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Speaker 2: was watching TV, I was throwing the football up, I was,

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Speaker 2: you know, just constantly playing with it. And my hands

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Speaker 2: actually got really good from that. And my brother was

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Speaker 2: a quarterback and was four years older than me, and

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Speaker 2: he could absolutely rifle the ball. So I don't know

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Speaker 2: if if this happened to you, but when I was

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Speaker 2: first learning to catch the ball, I would get those

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Speaker 2: giant bruises right here from my brother's passes when I

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Speaker 2: would like miss it and it would just drill me

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Speaker 2: right in the wrist. So I would just I'd have

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Speaker 2: those giant bruises. But all I wanted to do was

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Speaker 2: catch the ball. Then, so I went from wanting to

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Speaker 2: crush the quarterback to wanting to catch the ball. So obviously,

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Speaker 2: you know, scoring touchdowns and crushing the quarterback were kind

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Speaker 2: of my dreams, and so I tried to play all.

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Speaker 3: The other positions.

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Speaker 2: And then once my growth spurt hit around eighth grade ish,

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Speaker 2: my knees started to hurt. Suddenly, I couldn't run as

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Speaker 2: fast as I could when I was little. It was like, hey,

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Speaker 2: why don't you go on the line. It's like, but

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Speaker 2: I could catch the ball really well, and so I

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Speaker 2: was still chasing the tight end dream when I got

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Speaker 2: to high school. Actually we ran the triple option there.

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Speaker 2: I was more of a pocket quarterback, also trying to

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Speaker 2: follow my brother's footsteps. So we got to high school,

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Speaker 2: I was like, Hey, I'm gonna try out for quarterback.

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Speaker 2: We ran the triple option.

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 2: I did not have the linear speed to run the

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Speaker 3: I was pretty good at it.

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Speaker 2: The next year I went out for wide receiver, which

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Speaker 3: Finished up high school, had no scholarship offers.

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Speaker 2: Ended up going to Fourteenion Military Academy, which is my

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Speaker 2: after I think I had negative YAK so like all

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Speaker 2: was there, I'd catch it, but like there was nothing

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Speaker 2: happening afterwards, Like you're not getting recruited at a tight

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Speaker 2: end to go to college if you got no yact skills.

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Speaker 2: About halfway through the season, my coach, who I respected greatly,

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Speaker 2: He's like, I think you can make a lot of

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Speaker 2: I trust you. I you know you you've you've seen

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Speaker 2: a lot of guys do this. I think that that

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Speaker 2: kind of the rest is history. So yeah, it was

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Speaker 2: a long journey to finally accept that I was aligneman.

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Speaker 3: But once I did, uh, you know it that that

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Speaker 3: definitely became my entire life.

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Speaker 2: And uh, I went from wanting to crush the quarterback

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Speaker 2: kind of a funny journey for me. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So it sounds like, so your NFL stats, you know,

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Speaker 1: besides all your pancakes blocks and locking people down, you know,

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Speaker 1: week in week out, you have one catch for one

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Speaker 1: touchdown and we have your brother to think, right, so

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Speaker 1: he was you know at a young age.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, uh you know, it wasn't just one catch

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Speaker 2: one touchdown. It was also one target, so you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean it's basically eight point three. Uh, you know

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Speaker 2: when throwing to Anthony Costanzo, and my I claim to

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Speaker 2: fame throughout for the rest of my life will be

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Speaker 2: that Reggie Wayne was used.

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Speaker 3: As a decoy for me so that I could to

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Speaker 2: So that was yeah, yeah, crossed the bill for chucking

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Speaker 2: that ball at me. My whole life and throwing about

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Speaker 2: one hundred miles per hour so I could get those

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Speaker 2: soft hands to scare that touchdown. Oh that's so great.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, brother Bill, good job, Andrews thanking you as well.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure I know you used to remind

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Speaker 1: Andrew Andrew luck we're speaking of that, you know, you

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Speaker 1: know when I you know, you threw my way, you know,

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Speaker 1: perfect passer rating. So you know, maybe I should drop

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Speaker 2: I was in Andrew's ear, I was in Syriani's ear,

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Speaker 2: I was, I was. I was in Pep's ear before

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Speaker 2: I was. I'm like, hey, I mean long before that.

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Speaker 2: I was in my high school coach's year. I'm like, hey,

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Speaker 2: the ball in the red zone and I'll score a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, you know, didn't really happen until the NFL,

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Speaker 3: Yeah awesome.

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Speaker 1: So well, let's talk about your career, Anthony, because you know,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, your career, you were always underappreciated. You know,

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Speaker 1: you didn't get the accolades that probably you deserve, not

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Speaker 1: that you cared, you cared about you know, how you

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Speaker 1: I think it'd be cool for people to hear, you know,

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Speaker 1: just kind of your process. You know, everyone's got a routine,

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Speaker 1: you know, week in week out, just kind of how

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Speaker 1: you went through that process to be just you know,

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Speaker 1: the definition of consistency at left tackle, a very difficult

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess it kind of starts.

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Speaker 2: I believe that games were won in the off season

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Speaker 2: what you've prepared for. So in my in my estimation,

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Speaker 2: when I was in the off season, I was working,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to I wanted there to be nothing that

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Speaker 2: wanted to prepare myself for every situation in practice so

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Speaker 2: at one hundred percent. And I got to get again

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Speaker 2: got to give props to my to my scout team

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Speaker 2: defensive ends that I played against my whole career, guys

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Speaker 2: who would bring it constantly. You know, I think about

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Speaker 2: in my career. Mario Addison went on to have a

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Speaker 2: later on. Unfortunately it didn't work out for Daniel Adongo,

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Speaker 2: but you know he would bring it every every every

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Speaker 3: Would bring it. It was just guys.

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Speaker 2: You know, I appreciated, in my estimation, you should hate

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Speaker 2: but you should also deeply love them more than anyone

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Speaker 3: It's like that that relationship was so important to me.

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Speaker 2: And I recognize that you only get so many reps

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Speaker 2: just gonna make it harder for you on Sunday. So yes,

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Speaker 2: practice was extremely important to me. The off season was

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Speaker 2: I kind of felt like I owed it to myself

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Speaker 2: because it was my you know, it was my dream

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and ac people say, or you know, they say,

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Speaker 1: you know, practice is most important, and you know can

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Speaker 1: say the things that you just said, but you truly

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Speaker 1: lived it like there was no brother in law going

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Speaker 1: on with you. You weren't ever telling a guy like,

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Speaker 1: you know, hey, take it easy. You know, my knees

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Speaker 1: a little banged up. Like I always admired the way

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Speaker 1: you practice, man, like you said, you live that out

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Speaker 1: and we're dedicated to football, like you said three sixty five.

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Speaker 1: And it kind of brings me to my next question

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Speaker 1: and being so you know, being so locked into your craft.

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Speaker 1: You were known for doing a pass set anywhere and everywhere.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen you do a passe set. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'd be laying in the locker room before game, you know,

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Speaker 1: getting stretched out and here comes a sea like, oh crap,

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Speaker 1: like you know you're about to step on me, or

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Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I've seen you do it in

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Speaker 1: the cafeteria. I've seen you do it in the training room.

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Speaker 1: I've seen you do a pass set just about anywhere.

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Speaker 1: So I gotta know when's the last you did one?

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Speaker 1: And I got also have to know where's the weirdest

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Speaker 1: place you've ever done a pass set?

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Speaker 2: All right, So I did one yesterday because I like to,

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Speaker 2: to try to figure out how what the perfect passet

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Speaker 2: That's cool. But I was deleting videos on my phone

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Speaker 1: So what what hobbies you up to now? You know

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Speaker 3: Like I'm not used to that happening.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I've really I've really enjoyed that in the

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Speaker 2: Fifty my fifty year plan, trying to single handedly write

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Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome, man. Yeah, so you have you found something?

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Speaker 1: You know, because I always say people always like, oh,

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Speaker 2: It doesn't move. So yeah, i'd love to see you

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Speaker 2: it's it's it's fun though. Oh that's awesome.

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Speaker 3: Well, the I'm watching every game.

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Speaker 2: I just want to help you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So hopefully I can figure out some way to

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean, just listening to that, I think

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Speaker 2: it's like you'd love to like have a consult seen

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Speaker 2: out of you. And you know, your body. It feels

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Speaker 2: like once you start to figure out football, your body

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Speaker 2: starts going right and then you can't, you know, practice right.

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Speaker 1: It's like you can do what you figure out. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: just mess it all together, all right. So let's let's

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Speaker 1: get your thoughts on the Colts. You know, you say

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Speaker 1: you're just watching offensive line plays, So let's let's go there.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk to me about the current state of the

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Speaker 1: Colts offensive the line and your thoughts on them.

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Speaker 2: So, I mean, I'm happy to say that I don't

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Speaker 2: have to lie that I think it's you know, I

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Speaker 2: think it's good. Yes, you know, you've got they've got

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Speaker 2: they've got pieces in place, they've got good young talent.

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Speaker 2: You know, I kind of just go from left to right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I absolutely watch Bernard a lot. I really

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Speaker 2: like the way that he plays. He's he's rarely out

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Speaker 2: of balance, he's I think the key what I discovered

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Speaker 2: as a left tackle getting later on in my career,

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Speaker 2: the key is to never get beat cleanly. You get

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Speaker 2: beat cleanly as a left tackle, it you know, that's

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Speaker 2: just the sack fumble. That's the stuff that literal nightmare.

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Speaker 2: I legitimately still have nightmares about stuff like wake uping

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Speaker 2: at me, like waking up in a cold sweat, yeah yeah,

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Speaker 2: or my my wife wakes me up because I'm screaming

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Speaker 2: my sleep and it's like, oh yeah, I was giving

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Speaker 2: up the sack again, you know, something like that.

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Speaker 3: So that's you.

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Speaker 2: You rarely have ever seen Bernard get clean, get beat cleanly,

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Speaker 2: so I you know, I love watching him play. Obviously, Quentin.

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Speaker 2: I think Quenton had his best year this year, probably

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Speaker 2: since twenty maybe since twenty nineteen in terms of past blocking.

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Speaker 2: He was like a he was like a wall in there. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean he I really really enjoyed watching

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Speaker 2: him play. The two young guys borderlinemed him solve this.

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Speaker 2: I think both have a lot of promise. You know,

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Speaker 2: they're they're young, They've they've got they've got growing to do.

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Speaker 2: But you know, you kind of can tell if a

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Speaker 2: guy's got it. Orf he doesn't got it, and I think, sorry,

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Speaker 2: here's something in the background, my dog and rolling around.

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Speaker 3: Like it like Jack, but you're good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I mean those two guys both,

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Speaker 2: I think they've got it. They they they move people

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Speaker 2: in the run game. They're they're stout in the past game.

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Speaker 2: And obviously there's Braiden's been there forever. But he's a

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Speaker 2: free agent this year and I don't know what they're

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Speaker 2: gonna do with Braiden. Braiden, he's obviously coming off of

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Speaker 2: an injury. You were talking about me being underappreciated. I

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Speaker 2: think Braiden Smith is one of the most underappreciated players

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Speaker 2: in the NFL. I watch games constantly. Nobody no offensive line.

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Speaker 2: Maybe a couple guys like I'm thinking, like maybe like

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Speaker 2: a pinay Sewel can physically move a person from point

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Speaker 2: A to point B against their will like Braiden Smith

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Speaker 2: can in the run game.

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Speaker 3: Like it is.

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Speaker 2: I think if you were to ask Jonathan Taylor, you know,

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Speaker 2: like how much does Braiden Smith mean to the run game,

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Speaker 2: I think he'd give you a pretty confident answer because, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he absolutely ejects people. So if if he does leaving

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Speaker 2: free agency. That'll be a big hole to Phil, and

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Speaker 2: I liked what I saw to Travis. I mean, he

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Speaker 2: he plays really well. Again, it's it's he's gonna have

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Speaker 2: to get loan. He's gonna have to drive, because to

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Speaker 2: fill the shoes of Brandon Smith is a big one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean shout out Braden. Like you said, he's

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Speaker 2: been doing that since you know, he got locked into

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Speaker 2: that right tackle position. And I remember him just like

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Speaker 2: even in practice, just really pissing off our defensive linement

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Speaker 2: because they just they didn't know what to do.

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Speaker 1: He gets his hands on you and like you said,

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Speaker 1: just moves you against your will. I mean, he's just

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Speaker 1: a stud. He's a stud. So, like you said, hopefully,

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Speaker 1: hopefully he's back. But then here, we've been closing out

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Speaker 1: these podcasts with a basketball question, right, you know, basketball

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Speaker 1: gets debated a lot in the NFL locker room, and

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Speaker 1: I've been asking Moe was my first guest on the

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Speaker 1: you know, on the podcast.

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Speaker 2: So I've been asking, guys, could they beat Moe ali

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Speaker 2: Cop one on one in basketball? And if so, how

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Speaker 2: would you do it?

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't beat one on one because his strength is

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Speaker 2: my strength, which is physically on the block, so like,

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be able to like, yeah that that

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Speaker 2: he's he's better at that than I am. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: let's just uh, I'd probably just be trying to pop

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Speaker 2: threes and hopefully we'll go in. But I'm not beating

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Speaker 2: Mo in a legitimate game of basketball.

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Speaker 3: So hats off to you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you'd be the Cinderella story, right, we're jacking

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Speaker 2: up threes exactly, like, hey, this guy's got no business

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Speaker 2: jacking up threes. Like yeah, okay, so that is that's

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Speaker 2: pretty much my only shot. Oh well, you see, this

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Speaker 2: was a lot of fun. Man. It felt like, like

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Speaker 2: I said, it felt like we were back at the

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Speaker 2: at the snack table night before game getting to you know,

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Speaker 2: a little slap happy and have a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: I really appreciate it, my pleasure. Thanks for listening, guys,