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Speaker 1: three quarters of it, right, that's the passing grade. Huh?
Speaker 1: Good enough? All right? Where I come from at LSU.
Speaker 1: Does that get to your degree? Oh? Absolutely awesome. We
Speaker 1: welcome to the Cowboys Break. We're out here celebrating three
Speaker 1: day grand opening events of the entertainment district here at
Speaker 1: the Star. I'm Mike Marsha. I don't know if you're
Speaker 1: familiar with me or not. That's all right, you'll do
Speaker 1: my best. This is Nick Eatman to my rights. You're
Speaker 1: left Abar Garcia over here and David Hellman the normal
Speaker 1: crew here trying to entertain you for an hour or
Speaker 1: so as you enjoy all that we have up here
Speaker 1: at the Star. Fancy huh, Hey, guys, I'm three everybody, yeo, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: I'll say this this is great weather for any American people,
Speaker 1: my people. This is kind of too chilly for me,
Speaker 1: but this is weather, treny weather. Are you insane? You're
Speaker 1: cold right now? This is too chilly for you a
Speaker 1: little bit, But it's great for American right. You guys
Speaker 1: are feeling good. It's a little worried this morning about
Speaker 1: the fog. But look what we got. Yeah, every got
Speaker 1: people out here walking around. You got you know, ten
Speaker 1: different restaurants are open. Guys and coats. Yeah, we wore blazers.
Speaker 1: That's how you know it's a big Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: you wore your ordor of light. Now handing out this
Speaker 1: jacket that I see sometimes this is the swag jack
Speaker 1: whenever you bring the rolled shrimp, the bacon rolled shrimp
Speaker 1: around the people. You're wrong? That the jacket that I see. No,
Speaker 1: I think I got the memo. By the way, I
Speaker 1: know this was such a pansy event. You're always dressed backway,
Speaker 1: where's your coat? A little nice? Where's your coat? Well,
Speaker 1: as you see behind us, there will be a Pat
Speaker 1: Green concert tonight. We might just go back there and
Speaker 1: break open some instruments and see how bad we can
Speaker 1: sound to drive people away. Pat Green, aren't you it's
Speaker 1: a cool thing, man? Yeah, it's a pretty cool thing text.
Speaker 1: Why not it's opening day Baseball. We're like, oh, watch us,
Speaker 1: we got our own opening day, got our own opening
Speaker 1: day out here, and it's the entertainment district. We got
Speaker 1: Connie Rossum making some contributions, city Works, Concrete, Cowboy cow
Speaker 1: Tipping Creamery tomorrow. I'm not gonna name them all, but
Speaker 1: some fantastic stuff up here. If you want to get
Speaker 1: your buns up here and have a good day this
Speaker 1: weekend Thursday, Friday, Saturday, three day grand opening, Uh, come
Speaker 1: join us up here at the Star in Frisco. We
Speaker 1: get this stuff every day, so it's kind of old
Speaker 1: hats us. But I think if you come up here
Speaker 1: for the first time, you're gonna go wow. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's pretty neat. Well, even if you haven't been here
Speaker 1: in two weeks, it's like, oh, I didn't know that
Speaker 1: open up or that place opened up, I mean, and
Speaker 1: a new dancing place for you, Well, that's not the
Speaker 1: one I go to. But if it's just this convenience
Speaker 1: right across the street from the office, yeah, how have
Speaker 1: you not? Definitely I'm definitely gonna switch something else over
Speaker 1: here that's right over there. So conveniency is there some
Speaker 1: boots over there. Maybe I can see you in some boots.
Speaker 1: How many boots you own? Um? Zero, zero boots, no boots.
Speaker 1: You've lived in Texas your whole life. People think it's
Speaker 1: weird that I've lived in Texas for five years and
Speaker 1: I don't have a pair of boots. A little weird,
Speaker 1: I know. Sorry, Dave and I had this hypothetical. You
Speaker 1: get hired at your dream job. Oh yeah, but you
Speaker 1: have to wear a cowboy hat to work every single day,
Speaker 1: and boots and boots the whole get up every single
Speaker 1: do you got dressed like rowdy every day? Like, oh hey,
Speaker 1: there's Jaymachick. I'm in the winner. He was the winner
Speaker 1: of our Top Moves of March bracket. Was he the
Speaker 1: real winner though? Or just the people's champ? What's the difference?
Speaker 1: It leads a difference. Okay, you know, um, all right,
Speaker 1: we'll be here for the next hour. There might be
Speaker 1: a player who knows, I don't know where we're gonna
Speaker 1: fit them over here. They might just stand down there
Speaker 1: and just like look at us and yell back and forth.
Speaker 1: We'll make it work. Though, Well, they gotta find a
Speaker 1: way to get it their way up to the front
Speaker 1: here right. Pretty cool and thank you for everybody to
Speaker 1: put this together. Chris Beam working his butt off this
Speaker 1: morning getting this together. Other guys out there. We're gonna
Speaker 1: try and entertain you for about an hour if that's possible,
Speaker 1: and do a cowboys break thing like y'all usually do.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna fill in for Derek and see if
Speaker 1: we can get him kicked off the podcast permanently. You're
Speaker 1: doing a better job into perpetuity. Just stay in La.
Speaker 1: It's totally fine. We got this. Just take some time
Speaker 1: off during I'm beating the one of the biggest weeks
Speaker 1: of the year, no doubt. Me and Dave are working
Speaker 1: on I don't know, six hours asleep. Got in last
Speaker 1: night from the Texas Triangle Tour, which you will know
Speaker 1: more about when they come in days. It was pretty cool, man,
Speaker 1: It was fun. It was pretty cool. We'll do a
Speaker 1: whole We'll do we'll do a whole block on it.
Speaker 1: Here in a little bit Clifshouse version real quick, thirty seconds,
Speaker 1: thirty seconds. Um. A lot of players, not a lot
Speaker 1: of great players, but still fun to stand to a
Speaker 1: scout while they're watching a dude and taking notes and
Speaker 1: going ah, this, this, this, and you're like picking his brain.
Speaker 1: It's pretty neat. Yeah. If you're big on the draft,
Speaker 1: it's it's a good time. Well yeah, and like Mike said,
Speaker 1: we'll have some more content on it soon. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean more not so much A and M, but
Speaker 1: more players than I'm used to seeing a Texas in
Speaker 1: the time I've lived here. Yeah, I mean we've seen
Speaker 1: some that we've seen them go over a few times
Speaker 1: in the years that I've been down here. I don't
Speaker 1: think that's gonna happen. Four guys got in a truck,
Speaker 1: went down to College station, went then went to Austin
Speaker 1: the next day, came back. Yep, good times, and we'll
Speaker 1: have a cool little video. Bug. The heck out of
Speaker 1: some scouts made us give them, made them give us
Speaker 1: some access. I talk to a lot of NFL people. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: talk to some players I might go first, second round,
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, Molikue, Jefferson. So a lot of coverage last
Speaker 1: couple of days, and we're gonna turn that into something
Speaker 1: real fancy for you to put your eyeballs on in
Speaker 1: the next coming days. But let's get to some pressing topics.
Speaker 1: Owners meetings said it was Chili. She did, but she's
Speaker 1: he's got the got the shoulders. Yeah, you need Seve
Speaker 1: guns out guns out of here, guns out guns out. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: We'll make it work, though. Um, all right, I want
Speaker 1: this Dez thing to go away, and it just won't. Nope.
Speaker 1: And I think it's because we all assumed the tough honey,
Speaker 1: we need to talk conversation had already happened, maybe a
Speaker 1: week ago. We were we we assumed this was water
Speaker 1: under the bridge. And then we go to the owner's
Speaker 1: meeting in Orlando. We send producer Kent down there and
Speaker 1: he sticks a camera in front of Steven's face, and
Speaker 1: Steven's very uh, hey, we'll talk about Dez whenever we
Speaker 1: need to talk about Dez. Next question, We'll talk about
Speaker 1: Dez whenever we need talk about Dez. If you're ready
Speaker 1: for the Dez thing to go away? Oh, can I
Speaker 1: share a quote with you from Jerry Jones from five
Speaker 1: minutes ago? Yeah, he said, he said, he's kidding, it's
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones. He's not being one hundred percent serious, but
Speaker 1: he said, I actually told Dez not to come in
Speaker 1: because I don't want to talk to him, because I
Speaker 1: want the questions to keep going because I want us
Speaker 1: to stay in the news. That's so, I mean some
Speaker 1: truth and some jokes sometimes like the truth is buried
Speaker 1: underneath the joke. Yeah, that's kind of that type of deal.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I want it to go
Speaker 1: away too. I just want to know. I don't know
Speaker 1: what this team's game plan is a wide receiver, because
Speaker 1: you could convince me of anything right now, Like I really,
Speaker 1: the only thing I'm positive of right now is that
Speaker 1: Alan Hearns is going to be on this team in
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. He's gonna wear number seventeen. Other than he's
Speaker 1: gonna play wide receiver. Other than that, you could really
Speaker 1: convince me just about anything. Like I don't think wide
Speaker 1: receivers off the table in the draft. I don't think
Speaker 1: DZ's job security is secure. I think this team would
Speaker 1: listen to offers for their other receivers if somebody wanted
Speaker 1: to give them one. Not that they have any, but
Speaker 1: if somebody called, I think they'd listen. As just it's
Speaker 1: clear that they're not satisfied with their wide receiver corps
Speaker 1: as it's currently constructed. That's kind of my impression as
Speaker 1: it is right now, and they're trying to act nice.
Speaker 1: They're playing nice, right, Yeah, they're saying one him back,
Speaker 1: He's gonna be here. Love the guy. But then at
Speaker 1: the end of every you know that fourth question that
Speaker 1: gets asked on the same topic. You can't help but
Speaker 1: be a little honest on it. And Jerry yesterday how
Speaker 1: today or not yesterday before yesterday had an interesting quote
Speaker 1: that said, we can live with how much money that
Speaker 1: we have allocated to the wide receiver position right now.
Speaker 1: We can live with that so long as we get
Speaker 1: better production from that position and that allows Zeke to
Speaker 1: be the player Zeke needs to be. Yeah, I thought
Speaker 1: that was pretty interesting that the focus everything rounds its
Speaker 1: curve and points right back to the running game and
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott. So I don't know what it shouldn't. I
Speaker 1: don't think so. I mean we've again, Yeah, Zeke has
Speaker 1: been pretty calm this off season. He hasn't been on
Speaker 1: any headlines or anything like that Cobo trip last week.
Speaker 1: Do you see that took offensive lineman. Yeah, that's chill though,
Speaker 1: nothing you know that we're still talking about or anything
Speaker 1: like major You know it's candalous, right, But the point
Speaker 1: here is we've seen how this team reacts when Zeke
Speaker 1: is not there on the field, and we've seen how
Speaker 1: they react when certain other players are not there, like
Speaker 1: Sean Leet, but specifically Zeke. They need to be better
Speaker 1: at the wide receiver position, regardless of the running game.
Speaker 1: So when that time comes that you need to throw
Speaker 1: the ball, you can throw it and not always be
Speaker 1: dependent on the running game. I feel you. I feel
Speaker 1: your third and long comes along and it's we can't
Speaker 1: hand off to Zeke on third and long. We gotta
Speaker 1: have somebody get open. I understand, Yeah, you don Are
Speaker 1: you done guessing? No? I just think that good words.
Speaker 1: It's really simple. I mean, even though it's really complicated.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be simple at the same time,
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, they're not talking about sixty
Speaker 1: five other players that they need to have meetings with,
Speaker 1: and they need to meet with Dez. They're gonna try
Speaker 1: to lower his salary. That's what they're gonna do. And
Speaker 1: they're gonna say, let's lower this salary, and then when
Speaker 1: he says no, then they're gonna figure out from there. Okay,
Speaker 1: because Jerry just said, we can live with it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can live with it as long as the production
Speaker 1: is better, but the production is not gonna be better
Speaker 1: before you have to make the decision. You have to
Speaker 1: make the decision now. So I think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: pretty much take it or leave it, like this is
Speaker 1: what we want to lower your salary to. I think
Speaker 1: that there's strategies why they're waiting. You know that they're
Speaker 1: letting other players and other people sign and spend their
Speaker 1: money and they're gonna I mean, it's pretty much lowballing
Speaker 1: them saying this is this is what's gonna happen. I think.
Speaker 1: I think you're right, and it's business and there's a
Speaker 1: strategy to it. But just just do whatever you're gonna do,
Speaker 1: like have the conversation, Release him, if that's what you
Speaker 1: want to do, keep him. I just do something. Because
Speaker 1: this wasn't Jerry Jones. This is just a conversation I
Speaker 1: had with somebody over at this press conference for the
Speaker 1: grand opening, and they were like, well, they're gonna figure
Speaker 1: it out. They're not gonna let him twist. And I
Speaker 1: was like, I kind of feel like he's been twisting
Speaker 1: for about three months. Yeah, So for you to say
Speaker 1: that they're not gonna let him twist, what do you
Speaker 1: think's been happening since the season ended, because that's how
Speaker 1: I view it. You know, when the Media Guide and
Speaker 1: the next year comes out and it's gonna have all
Speaker 1: time leading receivers and catches and touchdowns, des Brian's gonna
Speaker 1: be number one on that list. And that's not to
Speaker 1: cut you off, but that was kind of my point
Speaker 1: is he's des Brian is not on the level of
Speaker 1: Demark Swear. Uh. Just in turn, you know, DeMarcus Squear
Speaker 1: is going to the Hall of Fame. I don't know
Speaker 1: if Dez Bryant is yet, but I mean you're talking
Speaker 1: about a guy that has etched in Cowboy history forever,
Speaker 1: regardless of whether or not he plays another down. So
Speaker 1: it kind of like, just be a little bit more
Speaker 1: above board with one of your greatest players in recent memory.
Speaker 1: I mean, Dez is one of the five or six
Speaker 1: best players of the post Triplets era, right, That's that's unquestionable, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he is the face of the modern franchise,
Speaker 1: one of them at least that's for sure. Like production wise,
Speaker 1: you know, it's debatable top five, but in the fans hearts,
Speaker 1: he's he's one, absolutely one of them, if not the one.
Speaker 1: He's one of about three. So just be a little
Speaker 1: bit more more above board, figure this thing out like
Speaker 1: I would. It would be a shame if they waited
Speaker 1: until after the draft to see what they get in
Speaker 1: the draft. I could totally see it. It's it's smart business.
Speaker 1: I mean, that makes sense to me. It's very smart business.
Speaker 1: But I just I think there's a certain level of
Speaker 1: decorum expected when you're dealing with a franchise great, and
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I would be disappointed to see that happen.
Speaker 1: So the assumption is that they are waiting for the draft.
Speaker 1: Now that's the only conclusion I can come to. Now
Speaker 1: he knows that they haven't had the talking right. So
Speaker 1: let's suppose they're not able to get a top wide
Speaker 1: receiver that you would want on this team. Are you
Speaker 1: still wanting to make that decision to figure out what
Speaker 1: death or are you keeping him right? I think that's
Speaker 1: why Jerry says we can live with it like that.
Speaker 1: Phrasing to me implies, we would like to better our circumstances,
Speaker 1: but we can deal with this if we have to.
Speaker 1: One thing Stephen Jones was saying too, is that they
Speaker 1: pretty much they have four or five priorities going into
Speaker 1: free agency. They wanted to get some linebacker depth. This
Speaker 1: is not in order, but they wanted to get some
Speaker 1: wide receiver depth. They wanted to get some depth and
Speaker 1: linebacker after losing Hitchens and Wilbur. They wanted to get
Speaker 1: some offensive lines depth for sure, and they wanted to
Speaker 1: get a quality safety that can start. So they haven't
Speaker 1: done that yet and that's still out there. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I think I think this whole thing comes down to
Speaker 1: that Des is that card that they're waiting. If they can,
Speaker 1: they can live with playing with Dez, nothing else comes along,
Speaker 1: they go to the draft, they get a safety. Maybe, hey,
Speaker 1: they're feeling good about things. Des can stay on this roster.
Speaker 1: But if Seattle calls and says, you know what, we'll
Speaker 1: take just a second. So okay now, but you still
Speaker 1: have to fit that money in the cap. And what's
Speaker 1: the best way to shave that money. So I think
Speaker 1: I think there's still He's not gonna stop the Earl
Speaker 1: Thomas thing until he makes it happen. Honestly, it's it's
Speaker 1: not just in cloth. Rather have another guy. Actually, Oh,
Speaker 1: go ahead, I don't care what he does. Really, I
Speaker 1: know the Cowboys care about what players do before the game,
Speaker 1: but I don't out in San Francisceric Reed, I don't
Speaker 1: think you can sell me on that. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't think fans do either, you know. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: he's not if he can not, if he's playing well
Speaker 1: at safety, they don't know. I think he's a better
Speaker 1: player than than Earl Thomas. Like I'm sorry, he's a
Speaker 1: better investment to make than Earl Thomas. Earl Thomas would
Speaker 1: be better right now. But I think Eric Reed can
Speaker 1: I feel the same way about Kenny Vacaro. And you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's like the true center field or
Speaker 1: safety that you would prefer, but what he brings to
Speaker 1: the table, and you could package him with the other
Speaker 1: safeties on this team. We know they like to play
Speaker 1: three safeties. I think that would be a great signing
Speaker 1: at a fraction of the price. I'm honestly stunned he's
Speaker 1: still available. The whole the whole safety market, to me,
Speaker 1: is is stunning. The way that they're getting a raw deal.
Speaker 1: They really are. They're really really good players, and they're
Speaker 1: getting left out in the cold. And I've read stuff
Speaker 1: that like they're getting one year, three million dollar offers.
Speaker 1: I think the reason why is because there are two
Speaker 1: really good studded safeties that are sitting in the draft
Speaker 1: that for a team that needs a safety and is
Speaker 1: sitting anywhere between seven and fifteen, you're like, what if
Speaker 1: one of these guys is here? I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I don't want to. That's why I'll do a one
Speaker 1: year deal with something with you know, Withcaro or whoever.
Speaker 1: Because what if Derwin James is sitting there? What if
Speaker 1: Micca Fitzpatrick is there? Yeah? So I think I think
Speaker 1: those those two really good. That does it drop off
Speaker 1: pretty much after that? Yeah? Yeah? Um and somewhat. I
Speaker 1: mean you could make a pitch for like Justin Reid
Speaker 1: out of Stanford. I never heard of him. There's a
Speaker 1: significant Wayne Wayne Golden out of Tennessee is a second
Speaker 1: or third round guy that a lot of people really love.
Speaker 1: But if yeah, it's there's a gap. There's there's a
Speaker 1: gully there between the top two if you want to sure,
Speaker 1: if you want to surefire day one starter. Hey guys,
Speaker 1: it's those two. But yeah, no, it's okay, Hey, what's
Speaker 1: up everybody in the entertainment district at the Star. I
Speaker 1: hope you're having a fantastic first afternoon. Hey are you
Speaker 1: doing out there? No? But I think that's a I
Speaker 1: think that's a realistic thought. I mean, the draft changes things.
Speaker 1: That's that just the conversations change, the prices change, and
Speaker 1: like I said, it's it's smart business to wait until
Speaker 1: the draft to do something with Dez. But just me personally,
Speaker 1: I would like it's annoying being being hung out there,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure Dez feels the same way right now. No,
Speaker 1: like we feel hung out there because we want to
Speaker 1: know and yeah, imagine pretty sorry though he's staying here,
Speaker 1: I think des is just a piece with whatever happens,
Speaker 1: whether he's here or whether something I mean, what what's
Speaker 1: he gonna do? So I think it's more so that
Speaker 1: I was talking abrought us last at peace as at
Speaker 1: ever as at pieces he can be. Let's put it
Speaker 1: that way. I was talking about us when we were
Speaker 1: driving around the last two days and I was like,
Speaker 1: I can't imagine the Cowboys without Dez Bryant. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I can't imagine Dez Bryant not having being a cowboy
Speaker 1: as part of his identity. No, I know, like that's
Speaker 1: in him, like that's him, That's Lufkin, that's Oklahoma State,
Speaker 1: that's that guy. If he goes somewhere else, like yeah,
Speaker 1: we joke like, oh, he'll blow up for fifteen touchdowns
Speaker 1: and make us through the day that he left. But also,
Speaker 1: I mean, different guy, different situations too. It's it's hard
Speaker 1: to imagine des commuting to work in in North Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: but I mean, like it's hard to picture that he's
Speaker 1: such a Texas guy. I think the most damning thing
Speaker 1: that came out of all the information we're we're just
Speaker 1: trying to read tea leaves like one day at a
Speaker 1: time like this and that, and then we got random
Speaker 1: h Yahoo dot com guy saying oh, they'll cut him
Speaker 1: for sure, and I'm like, who are you? Yeah? But
Speaker 1: it's never, never, never once heard your name in a
Speaker 1: respectable manner like who are you? Yeah? And then the
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins thing. I can't get over that. No, it's
Speaker 1: that's bizarre. I can't get over the we almost had
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins. Sammy Watkins didn't want to replace Deaz and
Speaker 1: uh no, everything's cool. We still definitely definitely won him
Speaker 1: back forever and ever and ever. Yeah, that's the most
Speaker 1: of that that's my first exhibit. You're saying, if you
Speaker 1: tried to get in for him. Yeah, yeah, you just
Speaker 1: tried to replace me. He didn't want to do it.
Speaker 1: But we're still cool, right, So you parted ways with
Speaker 1: him in your mind and your mind you said, you
Speaker 1: said goodbye. It's all right. It's opening day in MLB.
Speaker 1: I'll try to use a baseball analogy. You come to
Speaker 1: the plate and you need, you're needing a run. Maybe
Speaker 1: you got a guy on base in a crucial situation.
Speaker 1: First pitch, fastball, you just hack at it like you're
Speaker 1: just trying to get it out park. You miss your
Speaker 1: your down one in the count and it's like two outs.
Speaker 1: So maybe you change your strategy there. You're a little
Speaker 1: Now you're just just trying to get on base. Now
Speaker 1: you're trying to make the pitcher throw nine balls instead
Speaker 1: of just strike out on three pitches. So you're explaining
Speaker 1: a heat check. This is running a play you basically
Speaker 1: you mean you swing for the fences. You don't get it.
Speaker 1: You change the strategy a little bit. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: it's pretty that's the way I read it. Okay, question
Speaker 1: when they got off the field at the end of
Speaker 1: last season, which was seems like a whole year ago,
Speaker 1: but it's only a couple months ago. Dez Bryant and
Speaker 1: standing Pat or Alan Hearns and a I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: give you a first round wide receiver. I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you a second round Anthony Miller DJ Chark type character.
Speaker 1: Is that a better team? Oh, Herns or the second
Speaker 1: round round? Herns and the second round second Rogie or
Speaker 1: de yep and Dez and the rest of the guys
Speaker 1: stay pat like they probably are gonna know. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I think it is better sides. I think the
Speaker 1: hern I think Hearns and then because you're getting younger,
Speaker 1: you are, you're getting younger all the way around, and
Speaker 1: you're getting cheaper eventually once the dead money clears. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's the better round. I think.
Speaker 1: I mean, I want to know who that second round
Speaker 1: guy is. It's well, maybe DJ Moore. Let's say DJ Moore,
Speaker 1: just to make you more interested, to stop Dave. It
Speaker 1: makes me less interested because it's impossible, Dave. Dave is
Speaker 1: not going to let that happen. DJ Moore's not falling.
Speaker 1: He's trying to will him into like the top fifteen
Speaker 1: Dj Moore. If he's not the pick at nineteen, he's
Speaker 1: going at twenty. Canna get you a little conductor head,
Speaker 1: DJ Moore. Kirk, Christian Kirk is a guy I would
Speaker 1: draft it fifty. I would draft Christian with this team
Speaker 1: right now. I mean, and you got two slot guys.
Speaker 1: I don't love three slut guys to have three guys.
Speaker 1: It's true, I don't. I don't me personally, I'm scared
Speaker 1: about trying to push to translate Christian Kirk's game to
Speaker 1: the pros. That's just like, but I'm not an expert.
Speaker 1: That's just how I feel. But if you told me
Speaker 1: hearns and in the second round draft pick the top
Speaker 1: of what they already have, like from a salary cap standpoint,
Speaker 1: from a youth standpoint, I feel better about it. And
Speaker 1: I mean there's no way around it. Based on the
Speaker 1: way they played last year. It's hard for me to
Speaker 1: just be like, well, obviously, does it's better. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: where are you justifying that with? Yeah, just show me
Speaker 1: show me where he was yea. And if if it's
Speaker 1: not inside the ten yard line throwing a throwing a
Speaker 1: jump ball, because I don't know if it's there, I
Speaker 1: just there. There were so many plays left on the
Speaker 1: field last year, it's just hard to ignore. I think
Speaker 1: we need to be fair. The whole passing game needs
Speaker 1: to get better. Dez didn't stop learning how to run
Speaker 1: round stuff. Hey, this is this is it's everything's changed
Speaker 1: when Tony left and Decks come in and the first
Speaker 1: year everything they did with gold And are we just
Speaker 1: worrying too much about the wide receiver position in general
Speaker 1: when we know the identity of this team true, which
Speaker 1: I think. I mean to go back to what Jerry said,
Speaker 1: I think he's right. If if the line's playing well
Speaker 1: and Zeke's doing his thing, nobody cared that Dez only
Speaker 1: had eight hundred yards and eight touchdown in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: Like he did his thing, he caught three or four
Speaker 1: balls a year, played well, and the running game took
Speaker 1: center stage. Like that's fine, And I think they can
Speaker 1: win that way with Dez or with somebody else. But
Speaker 1: your backup plan needs to always work. Your backup plan,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, should be a better O line and
Speaker 1: a better running game. That's why I love what they
Speaker 1: did with their O line signings. That's why I still
Speaker 1: think guard is a draft priority and that's why I
Speaker 1: would draft a running back this year. Let's jump to that.
Speaker 1: But I want to add one more thing on the
Speaker 1: des Alan Hurns thing. People look at Alan Hurns, they
Speaker 1: see eighty eight, they see six three, they see a
Speaker 1: big body kind of receiver. Yeah, seventy three percent of
Speaker 1: his routes last year, we're ran out of the slot. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: that's not where Dez plays not. He's never played in there.
Speaker 1: Now that we have a different idea for him, the
Speaker 1: sun Jay get him and go, yeah, you're not playing
Speaker 1: in there, You're going outside your opposite Dez. That's how
Speaker 1: this works. I'm just telling you both those guys can
Speaker 1: be on the field at the same time. I can.
Speaker 1: But has Hearn's ever been the best receiver on his team?
Speaker 1: Whenever Alan Robinson got hurt that one in entire year,
Speaker 1: I think the teams still running out of the slot
Speaker 1: that year. I don't know that that's and that's you know,
Speaker 1: if he comes to the dalyst with with Dez, you know,
Speaker 1: you can make the argument who's the best receiver doesn't
Speaker 1: really matter. But you know, but the thing about it
Speaker 1: is is you know where Cole's gonna line up. That's
Speaker 1: where Cole's gonna be or Switzer or whatever. So yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no there's no maybe he's on that like Cole
Speaker 1: Beasley slot guy. They said they had a great wide
Speaker 1: receivers coach y Sanjay Laos supposed to be a great teacher,
Speaker 1: and that's what that's what he's got. He's got a
Speaker 1: lot of people now to to to work with um
Speaker 1: and you know, we'll see what happens with the draft.
Speaker 1: I mean there's about nine or ten receivers right now
Speaker 1: and we haven't even gotten to pick a guy, and
Speaker 1: getting get three or four free agents. Yeah, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a crowded room. And uh in Oxnard this year,
Speaker 1: there's no doubt, which no doubt. I'm gonna throw in
Speaker 1: one more thing if I may, because I mean, you're
Speaker 1: of course going about des speculating on his future, guessing
Speaker 1: whether or not he's gonna get cut like it's and
Speaker 1: some of it's warranted, but it's the classic scapegoat phenomenon.
Speaker 1: I mean, Dead was three lockers down from Brandon Car
Speaker 1: for the you know, the whole time they've been here
Speaker 1: at the Star, and I think where the secondary's problems,
Speaker 1: Brandon Car's fault entirely while he was here. No, but
Speaker 1: he had the biggest cap hit by far, and that's
Speaker 1: just kind of that's the burden you bear when the
Speaker 1: team's not living up to expectations. All right, let's knock
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Speaker 1: let's talk about Cameron Fleming, how to get your five
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Speaker 1: might imagine. All right, So Cameron filming something came out though.
Speaker 1: It was kind of interesting to me, you know, yesterday,
Speaker 1: day before because everyone was saying, okay, three and three
Speaker 1: something million, three or three and a half, one year
Speaker 1: and three and a half one year, three and a
Speaker 1: half for a starting right tackle, Like the money doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense if he's gonna be a starting right tackle.
Speaker 1: And then you find out there's a little clause in
Speaker 1: his contract that can bump him up a whole million dollars.
Speaker 1: There you go. If he's a he starts the majority
Speaker 1: of the games a right tackle. Tell me how we
Speaker 1: get our best five offensive linemen on the field, Nick Well,
Speaker 1: I think that it's it's great competition, and it all
Speaker 1: starts to me with Tyron Smith. Tyron Smith's the guy
Speaker 1: that you know, he was hurt three or four game
Speaker 1: while he was hurt probably ten to twelve games last year,
Speaker 1: but missed three or four games last year, and that
Speaker 1: really just kind of held them hostage all season long.
Speaker 1: And so I think that when you're you're trying to
Speaker 1: figure out, how do we make sure we've got some
Speaker 1: depth at the tack position, Fleming looks like the guy
Speaker 1: that could come in and start, But I don't think
Speaker 1: Lyle Collins is ready to just give that position up,
Speaker 1: nor should he. So I think we're gonna have a
Speaker 1: good battle there. Marcus Martin's gonna be able to compete
Speaker 1: at the guard spot. Maybe Lyle slides in there, maybe
Speaker 1: they'd draft someone. So we don't really know who all
Speaker 1: the guys are in plays are. But how do you
Speaker 1: to answer the question. You'd go out there and I'll
Speaker 1: start in and you compete. You get a chance to
Speaker 1: play in the game. You don't, don't you know? You
Speaker 1: see Dak Prescott when he's trying to throw, make sure
Speaker 1: he's standing after the play, because if he's down on
Speaker 1: the ground then that's not good for you as alignman. Yep,
Speaker 1: what do you think, Dave? I would like to think
Speaker 1: that this team learned a lesson from what happened last year,
Speaker 1: because I the thought of best five makes me nauseous,
Speaker 1: to be completely honest with you, And at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I don't care if it's Cam Fleming
Speaker 1: or Lyle Collins. But with that signing, I think you
Speaker 1: have three really quality tackles. You have three guys who
Speaker 1: could probably start at all three spots. I mean, Tyrn
Speaker 1: definitely can, and I think the other two probably couldn't
Speaker 1: a pinch. You're gonna move even let's say Fleming even
Speaker 1: wins the job, You're gonna move lyle to card. I
Speaker 1: mean that what they did with Chaz Green last year.
Speaker 1: Didn't he played pretty well at tackle when that was
Speaker 1: the only thing he's supposed to be doing, And wasn't
Speaker 1: he not good at it when they needed him later?
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you rather have three guys who can handle two
Speaker 1: jobs as opposed to just all right, we're good here,
Speaker 1: even though our left tackle has been hurt in the
Speaker 1: last two years. We're good. We'll move you, and now
Speaker 1: we've got two good tackles instead of three. I hate that.
Speaker 1: I really don't like it. I think it's getting out
Speaker 1: over your skis a little bit. It's it's presumptuous at best.
Speaker 1: I mean, if Tyrn Smith had never missed a game
Speaker 1: in his career, I'd be all for it. But that's
Speaker 1: not the case. That's not the reality you're living in.
Speaker 1: Assuming that Kimeron Fleming is a better starting right tackle
Speaker 1: at this very moment than Lel Collins, maybe it's true,
Speaker 1: but come Week five, when you don't have a left
Speaker 1: tackle when you used to assume you can reshuffle everybody
Speaker 1: and everything just be fine. I get that either way.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, let's say again, Fleming beats Lyle.
Speaker 1: Seven eight million is a lot of money to pay
Speaker 1: your backup tackle. It's better than the alternative, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: And you know that's that's pro football. These guys. I
Speaker 1: can live with it if that's the way the cookie crumbles.
Speaker 1: But I don't like the thought of turning a strength
Speaker 1: into a weakness by shuffling guys around. Especially you drafted
Speaker 1: a guy in Marcus Martin who is capable of starting,
Speaker 1: and that's you know. I told Amber in the first segment,
Speaker 1: I would still maybe not pick nineteen, but somewhere in
Speaker 1: the draft I would draft a guard and try to
Speaker 1: have a competition there too. But I don't like you
Speaker 1: tackle looks like a position of strength right now, and
Speaker 1: I don't like the thought of weakening it. So in
Speaker 1: your scenario of Lyle not winning the job on the
Speaker 1: right right side, who's your left guard, well, Marcus Martin
Speaker 1: or a draft pick. That's my point, Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: I don't Maybe maybe Lyle can do that job better
Speaker 1: than those guys. But again, I love the knowledge that
Speaker 1: I've got a capable backup tackle that is worth a
Speaker 1: lot in the NFL for a lot of reason. I think, Mike,
Speaker 1: I think you hit it on the head there. To me,
Speaker 1: the swing tackle stick is going to be Um Fleming.
Speaker 1: I think he's living, yes, he just I mean he's
Speaker 1: going to be coached by a guy named Mark Colombo
Speaker 1: who was supposed to be the fourth tackle one year
Speaker 1: in two thousand and five, and he comes out and
Speaker 1: he's just better than everyone else and he ends up
Speaker 1: playing like six years. So if Fleming is that guy,
Speaker 1: that's fine. But I think we know who the best
Speaker 1: and smartest football coach in the world is, and he
Speaker 1: didn't really decide to want him. So I don't know
Speaker 1: if if I don't, I don't know if if it's
Speaker 1: a given he's gonna come in and start at right tackle.
Speaker 1: I think he's your swing tackle. And you know, the
Speaker 1: quotes coming out of the owner's meetings are that they're
Speaker 1: gonna let it resolve itself, like may the best man win,
Speaker 1: which they should. My hope you know when train camp
Speaker 1: rolls around or when training camp ends, is that it's
Speaker 1: tyring Travis zach Lyell Fleming as your swing and then,
Speaker 1: like I said, may the best man win between Marcus Martin,
Speaker 1: a draft pick Joe Looney if they want to give
Speaker 1: him a shot or they don't want to say, I
Speaker 1: don't think they do. But if they do, throw him
Speaker 1: in there too or not. Yeah, hey, hey, if if
Speaker 1: you want to go back to the Chaz Greenwell whatever,
Speaker 1: just have a let let the best man win it
Speaker 1: left guard and don't move the rest of these guys
Speaker 1: sons getting kind of crazy on you there day. Like
Speaker 1: I said, going back to the Chaz green Well, I
Speaker 1: think really will calm down. I'm weary of using Chaz
Speaker 1: green Atlanta game as the rule, though I agree, I
Speaker 1: think that's the exception. I think you put almost anybody
Speaker 1: out there that day left tackle and you don't get
Speaker 1: six sacks from Adrian Clayborne. And I don't think that
Speaker 1: it should be the rule. I should be the exception
Speaker 1: that happened one time and it's scarred is so bad
Speaker 1: that we're like adjusting the offensive land. It's only happened
Speaker 1: like three times in the history of professional Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand the exception to the rule thing
Speaker 1: on three sacks, like what happened to him, Like the
Speaker 1: year before in Chicago or whenever he filled in for Tyring.
Speaker 1: Oh that's my point. Well, you could make the argument
Speaker 1: that the position changed messed with his abilities. So that's
Speaker 1: the one thing that that's the variance in there. I
Speaker 1: am not ready to close the book on Chaz Green
Speaker 1: being a capable of football. No, he's gonna be here
Speaker 1: next year, but I think that probably depends on how
Speaker 1: training camp plays out. But yeah, I'm I am ready
Speaker 1: to close the book on depending him on him to
Speaker 1: potentially play left tackle for me. Like I mean, if they,
Speaker 1: like I said, if they want to throw him into
Speaker 1: the mix at left guard, I don't care whatever. Give
Speaker 1: him a chance, but um but I wouldn't lean on
Speaker 1: him as as my plan A or B. Probably this team.
Speaker 1: They don't play the Rams this year, No, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: a season. Interesting you guys, You guys know how I
Speaker 1: feel about playing starters. I'm not playing starters in an
Speaker 1: exhibition game against Sue and Donald. Just no. We do
Speaker 1: have the books this year, though, that's j JPP. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true in the house. No, nice. Yeah, We're going
Speaker 1: into Mike Evans down there at the point to that
Speaker 1: game that Texas Triangle Tour yeah, hung out, hung out
Speaker 1: with Mike Evans. I was, well, you know, nice guy, cool,
Speaker 1: cool dude coming here. I wanted to it's coming, he's
Speaker 1: coming here this season? He said yeah. He said, what's
Speaker 1: going on with this? And we were like, you told
Speaker 1: me us, he'll probably answer your texts. How many times
Speaker 1: do you get that question? Just anyways? So seriously, what's
Speaker 1: going on with des? Like, yeah, and we're not we're
Speaker 1: not holding anything back, but we're telling you everything we know. Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Mom, can I just sit here and
Speaker 1: hang out with you? Yeah? She wants to know about death.
Speaker 1: Everyone wants to know about death always. I don't I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't blame it. It is. It was. It's like
Speaker 1: Tony Romo last year, like you can't deal with anything
Speaker 1: else going on around this team until you answer that question.
Speaker 1: To put a bow on the offensive line adds in
Speaker 1: the situation. I think it's pretty savvy what they've done.
Speaker 1: I like it a lot. You create competition, you figure
Speaker 1: it out as you go. You let competition dictate how
Speaker 1: your lineup is gonna work. And that's how football is
Speaker 1: supposed to happen. Right it is? I draw I make
Speaker 1: a caveat with the thought of position changes and again
Speaker 1: like messing with your depth. I don't love that, but
Speaker 1: I the signings they've made to their old line overall,
Speaker 1: I love it. And I think, you know, people were
Speaker 1: worried about the strength of it. I think when the
Speaker 1: draft is done, you're gonna look at the line and
Speaker 1: think like, oh, yeah, these guys are gonna kick some
Speaker 1: butt this year, and it's turn that unit to me
Speaker 1: into one of the one or two best units on
Speaker 1: the football team again, no matter what happens in the draft, right, yeah, No,
Speaker 1: that's I I agree, And that's your identity. You know,
Speaker 1: you look at Philadelphia and they lost probably their best
Speaker 1: linemen and they still went and won the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: because there was no drop off and or there was
Speaker 1: probably a small drop off, but and that that's what
Speaker 1: you're trying to do. You know, injuries were going to happen,
Speaker 1: and I think that they've created some some strong depth
Speaker 1: there at the offensive line position. So if everything goes
Speaker 1: right and Tyrn plays sixteen and Leo plays sixteen a
Speaker 1: right tackle, you're not gonna sit there Week seven and
Speaker 1: go dang, I wish we weren't paying Cameron Flimming three
Speaker 1: and a half. No, nobody's gonna care. We would be like, man,
Speaker 1: that was smart, that yeah, got themselves such a nice insurance.
Speaker 1: Good job, good job guys. That guy really helps in
Speaker 1: the jumbo Again again, go back to Philadelphia. Nobody would
Speaker 1: have cared. You. Nobody would care if they would have
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl with Wentz and had three million
Speaker 1: dollars or whatever with foals, you know, and so that
Speaker 1: that's that's kind of what they did. A quarterbacks obviously
Speaker 1: a different position, but I mean, you're just trying to
Speaker 1: protect yourself. It's why people buy insurance for their house
Speaker 1: and car. You want insurance, and that's that's what I
Speaker 1: think Fleming could do. The things you worry about when
Speaker 1: you go ninety seven. Yep, that's the kind of stuff
Speaker 1: because nine and seven is like, you know, especially with
Speaker 1: the six game suspension to your best offensive player, you know,
Speaker 1: two wins here in your in your playoffs, and probably
Speaker 1: Dez's numbers could be the exact same thing. But if
Speaker 1: you are eleven and five and made the playoffs on
Speaker 1: of course talking about this, of course, it's it's the
Speaker 1: problem of the offense as a whole, right, and you
Speaker 1: look at the highest paid guy and it's easy to
Speaker 1: point at him and go, Yep, that's the problem. Yep,
Speaker 1: it's not. It's not more complicated than that. To me.
Speaker 1: The problem that I that I have with with this
Speaker 1: team in the cap structure is that your your quarterbacks
Speaker 1: making about a million and a half, you know, a year,
Speaker 1: and most of these teams that are dealing with twenty
Speaker 1: million dollars quarterbacks and still getting everything under the cap
Speaker 1: because he's not gonna be making one point five billion
Speaker 1: for right, So yeah, you need to take advantage of that,
Speaker 1: right you gotta jump on that, you'd like to think. So,
Speaker 1: all right, So yesterday the Cowboys coaching staff basically as
Speaker 1: a whole, almost outside of our our guy Keith O'Quinn,
Speaker 1: who we were hanging out with yesterday, we're down in Tuscaloosa,
Speaker 1: Alabama for not a not Alabama pro day that was
Speaker 1: already over. This was a private. Hey, we're gonna set
Speaker 1: up shop union your universe Universe university. Good god, Um,
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna take residency here. We're gonna be
Speaker 1: to r A telling you to clean your bathroom for
Speaker 1: one day. And uh so they went down to Alabama
Speaker 1: obviously like eight to ten draftable guys down there. I
Speaker 1: think more draftable guys than that, probably. I mean Texas
Speaker 1: had seven or eight draftable guys. Bama's probably got twelve
Speaker 1: or thirteen, if I had to guess. And the last
Speaker 1: time they did something like this was two years ago
Speaker 1: when they went to Ohio State for Bosa for what
Speaker 1: Mali Cooker for Ezekiel Elliott, yep, because he had the
Speaker 1: fourth overall pick. Now, I look at the guys on
Speaker 1: the Alabama list and out of nineteen's a little rich
Speaker 1: for Rashaun Evans. To me, nineteen's a little rich for
Speaker 1: Durron Payne, the guy everyone remembers because the playoff games
Speaker 1: in college football that he had, he just destroyed people.
Speaker 1: Mika Fitzpatrick interests me a lot. If you're talking about
Speaker 1: moving up a little bit, moving up, Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: would go down there and send my entire coaching staff
Speaker 1: to look at a guy that I would consider moving
Speaker 1: up for. Yeah. And you know, the Calvin Ridley is
Speaker 1: also Ridley. He seems to be dropping down a little
Speaker 1: bit into that range of nineteen and probably even past that,
Speaker 1: but who knows, I mean, who knows what this time
Speaker 1: of year all it takes is guys saying one or
Speaker 1: two things, trying to position these players around. But I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I'm not I'm not a big
Speaker 1: fan of moving up to that range. But you know,
Speaker 1: if say he's still a position of need, I mean what,
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna have to throw your first in your
Speaker 1: second round pick to go get that sitting on the spot.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Minka is gonna go high enough
Speaker 1: that it might take more than that. And that's on
Speaker 1: the thirteen, the last one I looked at. Okay, Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: how about this. How about you're sitting there in thirteen,
Speaker 1: the first twelve picks are gone and he's still there.
Speaker 1: You could trade the nineteenth pick and your second round
Speaker 1: pick to move up to that spot and you can
Speaker 1: take him. Or sounds a lot like mo Clayboy. At
Speaker 1: this point, Seattle is just getting anty. Here goes with
Speaker 1: Seattle again, and all you have to do is get
Speaker 1: You give them a second, just one second, but then
Speaker 1: you gotta then you gotta pay the band. Okay. That
Speaker 1: is the greatest type. It's a great hypothetical because, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're essentially spending the same resources on a twenty nine
Speaker 1: year old who's going to cost you a boatload of money,
Speaker 1: who you know is a great player, or a twenty
Speaker 1: three year old who's not gonna cost you anything in
Speaker 1: the relative scheme of things, who might be a great player.
Speaker 1: A great player that's I don't know, and I don't
Speaker 1: because you can convince me. Doesn't mean he's gonna be
Speaker 1: a great player. No, but it certainly could mean that
Speaker 1: it could. But I'm just saying that there's there's cases
Speaker 1: out there of these dominating players that come and for
Speaker 1: a team for as good as they are in the
Speaker 1: college game, Like Alabama's track track records not awesome, but no,
Speaker 1: Julio Jones went Tobama, Landon Collins went to Obama, like,
Speaker 1: they're damn good players that come out of there too,
Speaker 1: for all the misses that they've had. I mean, if
Speaker 1: they Mo Claiborne, Minka Fitzpatrick and they say best defensive
Speaker 1: player in the draft and he starts getting to twelve,
Speaker 1: I'm doing it. I'm I'm in and I don't like
Speaker 1: trading up either, to be honest with you, but I
Speaker 1: think there's a sizeable gap between the first ten to
Speaker 1: twelve talents in this draft and then what comes after that.
Speaker 1: So I'm in especially and I know a lot of
Speaker 1: there's a lot of doom and gloom among the fan base,
Speaker 1: it seems like. But I don't think this team is
Speaker 1: that many pieces away from being really really good. No,
Speaker 1: I don't either, And so I mean, give me a guy.
Speaker 1: If if that's the guy that you think is gonna
Speaker 1: be a badass in a starting spot, bring them on.
Speaker 1: That being said, that's why I would go and actually
Speaker 1: pay for a veteran for that for that reason'll get
Speaker 1: your charles. Yeah, I think that's crazy. I think this
Speaker 1: stuff going on because his dog would be running through
Speaker 1: there comes storming out of the Luke Casey stool or
Speaker 1: trade of fun. There's some I mean, that's something I've
Speaker 1: seen go around a little bit, and I think there's
Speaker 1: some truth to it. Like I mean, obviously this is
Speaker 1: a really young team. You've got your veteran leadership. I mean,
Speaker 1: Jason Witten's here, but this team doesn't have a guy
Speaker 1: that's even played in the Super Bowl that well, Cameron Fleming, Now,
Speaker 1: yeah there's a guy, you got one. Uh. This defense
Speaker 1: has so many youngsters on it that I think that
Speaker 1: could benefit them greatly. As if you could bring in
Speaker 1: a guy who's kind of been been there before and
Speaker 1: can impart some wisdom on you. But is that worth
Speaker 1: nine million dollars a year or more than that, because
Speaker 1: Earl would need a new contract. I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's for the record. If it's just a second, I'm on,
Speaker 1: I'm on Nick's boat over here. It's just as opposed
Speaker 1: to a first an a second. Yeah, opposed to a
Speaker 1: first and a second for a guy that might be
Speaker 1: you know, a stud safety price tag goes down when drafted.
Speaker 1: It always does. Seattle doesn't have a second if you
Speaker 1: jump in there. I mean so, I like the pieces
Speaker 1: that we have on the defense. I like how they're
Speaker 1: building it. I think they can be good. Not a
Speaker 1: top five unit, but maybe top fifteen unit. You throw
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas in there. That's the rug that pulls the
Speaker 1: room together. Yeah, it was what that is Jeffrey Lebowski.
Speaker 1: Uh No, two people got that reference. I got it
Speaker 1: the dude. So let's let's give the folks and Nick
Speaker 1: and Ambar a little behind the scenes of what we
Speaker 1: did the last uh forty eight seventy two hours. Dave,
Speaker 1: I don't mean leave your toiletries in College Station. I
Speaker 1: did do that. Thank you for telling the world. I'm
Speaker 1: just reminding you so you can get them shipped back. No,
Speaker 1: I need to do that. I'm just like a good friend.
Speaker 1: Um over here. Well, yeah, you just let you left
Speaker 1: your toothbrush and Austin hasn't brushed his teeth since. So
Speaker 1: you're gonna get them to ship it back and not
Speaker 1: go to the store and get well No, I mean
Speaker 1: I got contacts in there. I got solution Man hair cream,
Speaker 1: I got all kinds of stuff on hair. How did
Speaker 1: he do his hair today? Guys? I invest in backup products.
Speaker 1: It's fine. Jeez, there you go. We talked about backups
Speaker 1: all day long. You need a good backup. That's right.
Speaker 1: You went to your cam flaming product and you don't
Speaker 1: use your hair cream is face wash? You know? You
Speaker 1: keep backups, you don't just move your depth around. That's
Speaker 1: my point. It's gotta jump off for everything. Next cream up?
Speaker 1: All right, Well we went down to College Station Monday night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because the them Texas Aggies, we're having a pro day
Speaker 1: Tuesday morning. What was it? Nine to twelve is kind
Speaker 1: of when it was scheduled something like that, which means
Speaker 1: chickens like eight, so you're getting up at six six thirty. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it was. It was a really cool look into the
Speaker 1: you know, the world of scouting, and that's you know,
Speaker 1: I keep going back to like we did it for
Speaker 1: two days. These guys do it for like nineteen days. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're just tired already, like one after the other, Like
Speaker 1: the scouts we were with, one of them took caught
Speaker 1: a flight to Provo, Utah on Wednesday afternoon, like left
Speaker 1: Texas's facility, got on a plane to Utah. Yeah. Me
Speaker 1: and Dave are like, get us home. Whatever bus is
Speaker 1: going directly to Frisco. We want to come home and
Speaker 1: our and our and our guys Sam and Walter. Sam
Speaker 1: was like all right, time to go to San Antonio. Bye,
Speaker 1: and then Walter's like I got a six o'clock to
Speaker 1: Utah and I'm like, no, man, No, we just did
Speaker 1: like back to back, like ten hour days, just straight through.
Speaker 1: But it's really cool, like getting to know those guys
Speaker 1: a little bit and them being cool enough and nice
Speaker 1: enough with us to let us just pick their brain.
Speaker 1: What are you looking at, wide receiver? What are you like?
Speaker 1: What are you trying to do here? Like there are
Speaker 1: a thousand dude standing over there like doing the same
Speaker 1: exact job. Why do we need two of you guys here?
Speaker 1: What are you doing? U? What player did you come
Speaker 1: down here to see? They didn't tell us directly, obviously. No.
Speaker 1: We tried, we tried, We tried to get him to
Speaker 1: slip up, but it was really neat. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, not that they haven't had great players, but
Speaker 1: this year Texas a and him, I think it was
Speaker 1: pretty obvious who they're there to see. Yeah, well he
Speaker 1: made it sound like there weren't a lot of guys.
Speaker 1: There's two were there were two that that's who people
Speaker 1: were there to see. And then we're not talking about
Speaker 1: people were joking, you know, Johnny Manzel was there and
Speaker 1: all the scouts were like, that's pro personnel. He's no
Speaker 1: longer college Scouting's problem. I forgot he was there. He's
Speaker 1: pro personnel. But Christian Kirk, your guy. Took a hard
Speaker 1: look at him, Armani Watts is another guy. And then
Speaker 1: Texas had six or seven guys. I know a lot
Speaker 1: of our fans I love Malik Jefferson took a hard
Speaker 1: look at him. Um lot to like, No, I mean
Speaker 1: there's a lot to like about both schools. Really, Like
Speaker 1: I said, I mean, I think UM Texas was quality
Speaker 1: or quantity over quality and him was a little more
Speaker 1: quality over quantity. But definitely some good looking prospects of
Speaker 1: both spots. It's to talk to the kids and they
Speaker 1: get advice from everywhere, right, Like everyone's trying to tell
Speaker 1: them they've got they got an agent, they got they
Speaker 1: got a family friend, they used to play in the league,
Speaker 1: they got this, they got that, and to see what
Speaker 1: they did, Like Armani Watts put on twenty pounds between
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl in his pro day. Yeah, and guys
Speaker 1: are like, why what are you doing? Who gave you
Speaker 1: this advice? Somebody told him he's gonna play linebacker? Yeah,
Speaker 1: someone someone said you're gonna be a Arizona Cardinal linebacker.
Speaker 1: You're gonna you're gonna get down in the box. We're
Speaker 1: gonna use you as a tweeter in a three four.
Speaker 1: Who are you most impressed with that? At? Ain't him Kirk?
Speaker 1: Just because that's I mean, that's what everybody was there
Speaker 1: to see. Yeah, And I don't know, it's it's like
Speaker 1: broad Us always says, it's like ice cream, Like I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't love him. I don't. I just it's kind
Speaker 1: of like the whole T. J. Watt thing, which is
Speaker 1: a terrible analogy because he actually had a fantastic rookie season,
Speaker 1: but you know, people were worried, can he put his
Speaker 1: hand in the dirt. I'm worried about moving Christian Kirk
Speaker 1: outside and this team doesn't need slot receivers. I worry
Speaker 1: about just expecting him to do something he didn't really
Speaker 1: do in college on a regular basis in the pros.
Speaker 1: But there's no question that he's a dynamic athlete. Cool
Speaker 1: moment when they went outside. So they're inside in this
Speaker 1: bubble and you're getting all these workouts, you're getting routes run,
Speaker 1: you're getting forties, you're getting shuttle drills, and they'd start
Speaker 1: taking everybody outside because both teams had punters. It was
Speaker 1: a tripuco from a M and Dixon. Australian kid from
Speaker 1: Texas actually came out early as a punter. He's gonna
Speaker 1: be a Day two pick as a punter. Yeah, that's crazy,
Speaker 1: It's insane. And so they go outside and they start
Speaker 1: kicking to Christian Kirk and the only special teams guy
Speaker 1: there is our special teams guy. It's Keith, and watching
Speaker 1: Keith do hands on drills of what he wants to
Speaker 1: see a returner do, he'd walk over there and say, no,
Speaker 1: do it this way. I'm gonna do this to you
Speaker 1: face that way, the balls coming opposite direction, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you when to turn around. You turn around, go
Speaker 1: track the ball. That's the kind of stuff they're looking for. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Christian Kirk was awesome at that, And don't they
Speaker 1: have another workout with him? They went down some members
Speaker 1: of the staff went down and worked him out yesterday actually,
Speaker 1: which that's you know, That's another thing people forget about
Speaker 1: is like these prodays are scheduled for one day in March,
Speaker 1: but these guys scheduled workouts with every team. Not every team. No,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're a good prospect, you might have
Speaker 1: anywhere from ten to fifteen private workouts with teams. So,
Speaker 1: you know, Cowboys fall. The Cowboys didn't have anybody at
Speaker 1: A and M's pro day. Don't worry, They're going down
Speaker 1: there to look at Christian Kirk in private. So and
Speaker 1: then Texas was a little weirder because they got a
Speaker 1: fence and basically they're practicing down there by the police
Speaker 1: car and we're over here, and you kind of got
Speaker 1: to figure out what's going on. Yeah, and they let
Speaker 1: you slide down the sideline a little bit and then
Speaker 1: they're like no, no, no no, get back. So it was
Speaker 1: it was a little weirder, but it was a cool experience.
Speaker 1: That's once Tom Herman showed up and some other like Texas, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, big heads showed up, and the the the
Speaker 1: universities guys had to pay attention to them. They didn't
Speaker 1: care what we were doing. We were staying on the
Speaker 1: field like as a guy's running his drills, like right
Speaker 1: next to our scouts and just go on, what's that?
Speaker 1: What's that? What is that? What's wrong here? Whenever they'd
Speaker 1: make a noise. So it was really cool. It was interesting.
Speaker 1: But to go back to your original point, you know, Alabama,
Speaker 1: not that we got to go, but if you can,
Speaker 1: if there's a sports book that takes bets on that,
Speaker 1: I'm going and putting money that the Cowboys draft Obama player.
Speaker 1: I just I mean, okay, you don't do that. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's gonna be at nineteen by they'll
Speaker 1: draft one of those guys. I bet. So where are
Speaker 1: we gonna see this Texas Triangle? And when? Well, I'm
Speaker 1: going to town next Thursday, so it'll be done by then.
Speaker 1: Why why Yeah? Why a Mike getting married? You know why?
Speaker 1: Settling down? Nick? Wow? Okay, the older pertinent question question. Well, awesome,
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Speaker 1: be on the floor. How many Margarita references did he
Speaker 1: making his press con He made a lot. Jerry Mark's
Speaker 1: on the mind. Mister Jones was in rare form today.
Speaker 1: It was really it was the most entertaining introductory press
Speaker 1: conference I've ever yeah been, I love it. Spice it
Speaker 1: up talking about margarite. What's your pick on on margarita? Mbo?
Speaker 1: What kind you going with? I don't like tequila? Like
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Speaker 1: in the middle of parking lot. Um. All right, it's
Speaker 1: a little bit of news besides the margaritas. Yes at
Speaker 1: the press conference, ribbon cutting, whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 1: from the Jones family. And the news is Randy Gregory
Speaker 1: working on reinstatements, possibility that he could be playing as
Speaker 1: soon as next football season. I don't know if it
Speaker 1: qualifies as like breaking news or just a repack to
Speaker 1: hit the sounder. Yeah, I mean Jerry Jerry Jones did
Speaker 1: talk about Randy Gregory said, you know, he's preparing to
Speaker 1: apply for reinstatement with the league. No timeline timetable on
Speaker 1: what that means, but there is reason to hope he
Speaker 1: could be available for twenty eighteens. I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: as plainly as anybody said that to this point, like
Speaker 1: it's as plain language as there has been about Randy's situation.
Speaker 1: But I'm taking all of that with a grain assault
Speaker 1: until I see some real movement. But it is, you know,
Speaker 1: and that you know, Stephen Jones said at the combine
Speaker 1: that you have to prepare for the worst case scenario,
Speaker 1: which is that he won't be available. You know, you're
Speaker 1: not banking on him to be available, but obviously that
Speaker 1: would be a tremendous was to the pass rush if
Speaker 1: he if he were to make it back. Do you
Speaker 1: care if Randy's back, I mean, yeah, if he's back,
Speaker 1: I'm I think that Charles Tapper has a better chance
Speaker 1: to contribute to this team than than Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: don't really think that's gonna happen either, So saying and
Speaker 1: both of him, I mean, believe it when you see
Speaker 1: it type thing. And you know, he's got to deal
Speaker 1: with a lot more things than than just being a
Speaker 1: good football players. So of course if he can get
Speaker 1: to that point, that that's great. You know what we've
Speaker 1: seen it in Cleveland. We saw I'd never thought Josh
Speaker 1: Gordon would ever play again, and he did. So if
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory can can go that route. That would be great.
Speaker 1: And you know he he would uh, he would help
Speaker 1: this this bass rush for sure. Michael Vick came back
Speaker 1: from jail prison, not prison. Prison. I love that. That's
Speaker 1: just getting thrown out this whole Yeah, yeah, prison real
Speaker 1: prison in the back. All right, we're about at a time.
Speaker 1: Anything else we need to get to. Okay, I'm sweating,
Speaker 1: I got a coat on. You did good work. Thanks,
Speaker 1: say you're no, Hey, you're I mean Derek. Derek's not
Speaker 1: that awesome at this Mikey, I thought you did a
Speaker 1: good job. I'm gonna email that to him. Good now
Speaker 1: he's watching, so Hey, I think Derek think you did
Speaker 1: a great job. I say those things just for you, Derek.
Speaker 1: All right, well, thank you guys. That was fun. I'll
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