1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Freeway Fanom, a production of iHeartRadio, 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Tenderfoot TV, and Black Bar METSVHAH. The views and opinions 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: expressed in this podcast are solely those of the podcast 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: author or individuals participating in the podcast, and do not 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: represent those of iHeartMedia, Tenderfoot TV, Black Bar, MITZVAH, or 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: their employees. This podcast also contains subject matter that may 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: not be suitable for everyone. Listener discretion is advised. 8 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: I'm just a guy who grew up in DC saw 9 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: a lot of things. I wanted to make a difference. 10 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 2: I wanted to do better. I wanted to help families. 11 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: I know how I feel to be out there, you know, 12 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: searching for your loved one. It's heartbreaking, especially when the 13 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: little girls go missing and daddy looking for him, and 14 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: you know, mama looking for him, and you know, they 15 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: feel like the police ain't doing nothing. 16 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 3: You know what are y'all doing? Because they don't see anything. 17 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 3: It's heartbreaking. 18 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: The homicide detectives termed the cases the little Girl case. 19 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: This child was laying on the side of the road. 20 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: I wouldn't go no way. 21 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 2: I would call my house. Those first five murders should 22 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: have been a huge warning bell for the police. 23 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 4: We just want to know what happened. 24 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 3: This person must have saw that. 25 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 4: They were thinking that maybe it's just one person, and 26 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 4: he says, they need to know. 27 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 3: This is me. 28 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: I thought that they would catch him. 29 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 3: I thought it was just a matter of time. 30 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 4: I'm Celeste Headley and this is Freeway Phantom. In the 31 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 4: early stages of our Freeway Phantom investigation, we consulted Henderson, 32 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 4: long of DC's Missing Voice. Henderson helped us understand the 33 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 4: systemic and regional issues that affected the Freeway fantas investigations 34 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 4: in the nineteen seventies and current cases of missing and 35 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 4: murdered children. 36 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: The foundation never changes with any kind of investigative work 37 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 2: through roots of it and. 38 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 3: What it's about, the core stuff. Never it's still it'll 39 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: never changed. 40 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 4: As a DC native with deep roots in the community 41 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 4: and years spent building relationships, Henderson is an invaluable source 42 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 4: of support and expertise for the families who are searching 43 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 4: for answers or coping with loss. For this bonus episode, 44 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 4: we dig into his story to learn more about what 45 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 4: led him to the work he does today and the 46 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 4: hard fought battle for change in DC's justice system. 47 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 2: Basically, what I do is I work right alongside with 48 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: the lead detective that's working to find a missing person 49 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:57,399 Speaker 2: here in DC. I'm actually going behind him or sometimes 50 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: ahead of him to interview witnesses. Is to do self 51 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: owned traces, to do surveillance, to take singer friends and 52 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: DNA and all this kind of stuff to make sure 53 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: it's submitted. 54 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 3: It's very rewarding. 55 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 2: Whatever the case may be, whatever we're looking for, that's 56 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 2: our number one objective is to stay on that track 57 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: to look for missing people. So what I'm learning about 58 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: investigating cases, you have to have a certain character to 59 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: do this work because it can be very frustrating. 60 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: You have to kiss a little bit of behind sometime 61 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 3: to get the information you want. 62 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 4: Henderson's nonprofit works on missing persons cases in Washington, DC, 63 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 4: and he often acts as a liaison between the Metropolitan 64 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 4: Police and black communities. The work is hard. It's taken 65 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 4: years of emotional and physical labor to establish the trust 66 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 4: Henderson now enjoys. But this work is personal. It's directly 67 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 4: connected to his upbringing in DC and tragedies within his family. 68 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: I was born in nineteen sixty eight open Southeast Washington, 69 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: d C. The Warding sector of Washington, d C. We 70 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: all lived in a like a little one bedroom apartment 71 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 2: with my grandmother, my mother's mother, and my father got 72 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: a good job and we moved over to ward Fire, 73 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: which is another northeast sector of DC, and that's where 74 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,679 Speaker 2: I grew up. My father still lives in the same house. 75 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: As a kid, I grew up in the crack era 76 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: of d C. I grew up here where crackhead came 77 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 2: into our communities in the eighties and the. 78 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 3: Late seventies is when it was starting. 79 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: So as a kid, I got a chance to kind 80 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: of see all that at a low level, you know, 81 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 2: just from my eyes seeing it. I never was involved 82 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 2: in it, never got involved with nothing like that as 83 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: far as no homicide or nothing, but I saw it. 84 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: I saw my friends get involved growing up. I saw 85 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: a lot of my friends who are dead now or 86 00:04:58,839 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: most of them are in car. 87 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 3: I just saw a lot of death here in DC. 88 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: I'll be quite frankly, quite honest with if you was 89 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 2: a lot of violence here in DC trying to control 90 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 2: the drug trade. Everybody wanted to get a piece of it, 91 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 2: and as a result, we saw a rise in homicides. 92 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: As a kid growing up, I got a chance to 93 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: lose loved ones. I'm probably a seven time loser. I've 94 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 2: lost seven or eight people to homicide. And when I 95 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 2: tell you I seen violence, I saw it with my 96 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: own eyes. I lost my kid, my oldest son. His 97 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 2: mother was murdered by a fifteen year old back in 98 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety two, ninety three. I know about death's firsthand 99 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: and violent crimes. I know how I feel for the 100 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: community to have information on your homicide, but won't nobody 101 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 2: come forward. So as a person, this kind of motivated 102 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: me to do the work I'm doing. 103 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 3: And also being in the military. 104 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,239 Speaker 4: Growing up surrounded by violence, and Henderson wasn't always sure 105 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 4: he would make it out. He thanks his father for 106 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 4: emphasizing the importance of structure and discipline. 107 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 3: He was tough. 108 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 2: My father was really tough, and he laid the law 109 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: down in the house. Immediately after high school, after graduating, 110 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: you know, my father told me I had to get out. 111 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 2: I had to either go to work or I had 112 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: to go to school. And I didn't really want to 113 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: go to college. So I went to the military and 114 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 2: I did about seven years, and I came back home 115 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: I got a chance to work with different people and 116 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: meet different people and see the goodness in people, because 117 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 2: most people are good people, you know. For the most part, 118 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 2: my main aspect of my story was the core was 119 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: my father and my grandmother. They were at the core 120 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: of me growing up because you know, sometimes you need 121 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: a man to tell a man how to be a man, 122 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: and so my father was probably the biggest example that 123 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 2: I had growing up and the reason why I was 124 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: able to make the decisions that I made. 125 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 4: Henderson decided he wanted to be that kind of example 126 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 4: for his community too. He eventually established DC's Missing Voice 127 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 4: with a focus on finding missing and exploited persons, another 128 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 4: issue that hits painfully close to home. In nineteen ninety nine, 129 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 4: his aunt Aileen went missing. 130 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: My aunt was last seeing September fifteenth, nineteen ninety nine. 131 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: Family couldn't reach her, you know, they kept calling her 132 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: and calling her and calling her with no answer. 133 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 3: So we called. 134 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: We got the rental office to do a wellness check, 135 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: and when we got to the apartment, my little cousin 136 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: was there in the apartment alone, Drone and his baby 137 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 2: Sea because he was a baby at the time and 138 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: he was strapped in. He had been there for a 139 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: couple of hours, and you know, my family knew something 140 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 2: was wrong. We called the police, and the police got 141 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: involved to no avail, researched her, search and search, and 142 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: at the time, we weren't where we are now with 143 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: missing persons. In nineteen ninety nine, we didn't have social 144 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 2: media like we have social media now. 145 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 3: We didn't have some of the tools we have now. 146 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: My family was they just thought that the police was 147 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 2: gonna take care of it. 148 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 3: The police know, the police got you to allow on. 149 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: The police come to find out a lot of things 150 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: probably could have been done better by the police department. 151 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 3: They never asked them for DNA, never asked. 152 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 2: All this time, my family told me, look, don't talk 153 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: about this no more. We're not getting no answers. Just 154 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 2: don't talk about it. It was just so painful. 155 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 4: When Aileen went missing in the nineties, the federally funded 156 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 4: databased National Missing and Unidentified Person System or NEMUS had 157 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 4: not yet been established, and the Combined DNA Index System 158 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 4: or CODIS was brand new. Henderson uses both systems in 159 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 4: his work today. He said that had they been available 160 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 4: earlier on, it could have saved his family years of 161 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 4: pain and uncertainty. 162 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: We had three unidentified remains found here in DC, and 163 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 2: we just knew one of them probably was a Leen 164 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 2: because it was in the same street that she would 165 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 2: frequent I told my family, you know, we got to 166 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 2: get our DNA and if we're going to have approve 167 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: that that's her and get some kind of closure. Well, 168 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: in the process when we put our DNA in, we 169 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 2: got a hit on a body that was found in 170 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: two thousand, So she had been in the Moore from 171 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: two thousand to twenty and nineteen before she was identified. 172 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: Now we tell you about good detective work. My detective 173 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 2: took a shot in the dark. He had some remains 174 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: up there at the Maryland Cortner's office. They kind of 175 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 2: fit the same description height of her. He asked them 176 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 2: test those bones. Went and test the bones. It turned 177 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: up a snake. 178 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 3: It was her. 179 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 2: So my family went through a lot of hearted because 180 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: we didn't know about all the different technology that was 181 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 2: available and what we should be using to solve her case. 182 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 3: And they quite frankly didn't want to talk about it. 183 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 2: They didn't even want This woe was so deep and 184 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 2: so painful. It was still wide open, but we just 185 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: ignored it. We still wanted answers. We still we was 186 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: the more desperate for the answers. So they had to 187 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 2: go ahead and they went on and they put their 188 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 2: DNA in. They got a match, and then we convinced 189 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 2: the sun drone to put his in and that was 190 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: a real match. Then they were positive that it was her, 191 00:10:38,040 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: and that's how we got the answers. 192 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 4: Even though Henderson found an answer to his ant's mystery, 193 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 4: his personal tragedies didn't end there. His niece went missing 194 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 4: around twenty twelve, and at that point Henderson was fed 195 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 4: up with the cycle of searching and waiting for answers. 196 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 4: He decided to get involved with the investigation. 197 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 3: I had a niece twelve years old. 198 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: She kept running away from home, and you know, the 199 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: police were working on it, and you know, they got 200 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: eighty million kids that's missing. So I was out there 201 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 2: on the ground talking with dope dealers. What was going 202 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 2: through my head was that this is what the police 203 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 2: go through, and they probably go through it worse than 204 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. She was missing off and on, I say, 205 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 2: about three or four years. She's twenty one now. 206 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 3: She got four kids. 207 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 2: But the trauma that she went through, the domestic violence, 208 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 2: you know, leaving names out, the domestic violence and all 209 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 2: that stuff that she went through. You know, did they suffer? 210 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 2: They suffer? It changed. 211 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 4: After this his mission was clear. 212 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 3: Looking for her. 213 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 2: Is what got me involved in is I saw how 214 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:18,119 Speaker 2: hard it was for investigators to acquire and get information, 215 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: to get information that they need to solve these cases. 216 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 2: And it really drove me to do more and to 217 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: want to do more to assist them. So I realized 218 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 2: I had to learn more about the logistics of investigating cases, 219 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 2: and I had to know. You got to know what 220 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: you're doing because sometimes you really can mess up a 221 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 2: case unintentionally. So I had to learn. I had to 222 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 2: I had to ask a lot of questions from to 223 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 2: on law enforcement officers that are investigators and sit down 224 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 2: with them talk with them. I had to do my 225 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: own study, and I had to go through various courses 226 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 2: to learn how. 227 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 3: To do this in a professional man and not just 228 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 3: as a citizen. 229 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 4: Henderson began working part time as a Trace investigator. He 230 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 4: now offers his services to families at no cost. 231 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 3: You don't want any money. This is all pro bona 232 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 3: work I did, and all the materials and stuff. 233 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 2: Some of the stuff is from the police department, some 234 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 2: of us from But you do all this out of 235 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 2: your own pocket, because you know what it's like. I 236 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 2: don't really want to work by contract because I don't 237 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: want to charge no family to look for a missing person. 238 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 3: Unless they're rich, they can pay. 239 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: But nobody's test driving me. I'm doing this without funding. 240 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 4: Part of his work includes running platforms to publicize cases 241 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 4: in DC. 242 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 3: Platforms are important when they come to missing people. 243 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 2: I have DC's Missing Boys and Missing expl the East 244 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 2: of the River Missing ex for the East of the 245 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 2: River gives focus to East of the River residents where 246 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: they can just focus on they missing people because they 247 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: hit me up when they told me, look, we getting 248 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 2: tired of here about all these missing people. It's happened 249 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 2: all over here when we got the highest number of 250 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 2: missing people east of the River. So I created that 251 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 2: page to get more eyes on the street in that area. 252 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 2: The more eyes you have, the more you can get 253 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: that call. Then now DC's missing voice is all of 254 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: the missing people in DC. When you talk about an 255 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 2: investigative tool, we're in the modern world now in this 256 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 2: Internet is something It can be very powerful when you're 257 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: doing these public inquiries. When you're asking the public, the 258 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: Metropolitan Police Department is seeking the public's assistance locating so 259 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: and so, so and so. Eighty million people may see that. 260 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 2: So that's now a public inquiry and we get a 261 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: lot of chips. We have a lot of chips that 262 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 2: we follow up on. That's why we have them. For 263 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: the main reason, that's to promote and to publicize and 264 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 2: to give MPD a greater reach in terms of audience 265 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: to their missing people in Washington DC. 266 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 4: As we've talked about throughout the season, an investigation has 267 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 4: many moving parts. It's complicated and constantly moving, like a 268 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 4: clockwork mechanism. Details can get lost or overlooked. Henderson wanted 269 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 4: to get the best training he could to make sure 270 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 4: he was on top of his game. 271 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: A god named that name is Palmer and Great Britain 272 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: created a professional course for regular people to go through 273 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: to learn how to operate within the private sector to 274 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 2: do trace investigation. 275 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 3: All the necessary paperwork that you need to fill out. 276 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: Like if you're my client, I need to know what 277 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: paperwork to fill out, because that's what separate the regular 278 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: citizen from the private professional investigator. He has documentation meaning 279 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 2: he has an intake for him, he has a contract, 280 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: he knows all the lead considerations when he's doing surveillance, 281 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 2: so he doesn't violate anybody's constitutional rights. If you out 282 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: to investigating the case, and let's just say it's a 283 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 2: case that this criminal malice involved, if you know the 284 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 2: aspects of the law, you can protect that data from 285 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: being disqualified and thrown out. 286 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 3: If you know what you're doing. 287 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 2: You know, so certain things you have to know in 288 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: terms of the legal considerations. 289 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 3: And these are just some of the things you learn. 290 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: How to promptly interview people, what questions to ask, you know, 291 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 2: the theory behind an interview, for example, when you go 292 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 2: into before you even go in the door, you got 293 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 2: to have an objective. You got if you want a confession, 294 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 2: if you want to just build some rapport with him 295 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 2: and hit him up back up later again. 296 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 3: Knowing all this before. 297 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: You go in, it's a part of your preparation to 298 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 2: be an investigator. 299 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 3: You know, there's certain principles that we operate off of. 300 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 2: You know, before we go in, we've tried to learn 301 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 2: all these different things before we go and start formally 302 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 2: interviewing people. 303 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 4: Much of Henderson's work as a trace investigator involves gathering 304 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 4: information and he's had to hone his skills in interviewing 305 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 4: and note taking, even organizing data. 306 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 2: You can't just jump out and these are some of 307 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: the things you learn when you go through this certification. 308 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 3: How to document your paperwork. 309 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 2: You know, how to make sure it's in order, how 310 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 2: to write up a report to submit the law enforcement. 311 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 2: What's the fabric of it would that sworn officer need 312 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: to have? 313 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 3: What is he looking for? 314 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 2: You're supposed to know the basic stuff so there's something 315 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 2: useful when it comes in. You learn all this going 316 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 2: through this certification, and it's an international certification, meaning all 317 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 2: the trades investigators got together and they started compowering methods 318 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: and stuff like that. For the guy who may not 319 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 2: be working in law enforcementer who may want to go 320 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: into the private sector. He can understand how to do 321 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 2: it and they can't with a manual. You know, you 322 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 2: have online tutoring, you can call it, you can ask questions. 323 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 2: Your gold mine when you're any investigator, it's staying in 324 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 2: contact with senior investigators. I've learned that you want to 325 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 2: call them, you want to say hey, I got this, 326 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 2: and they usually not going to give you the answer, 327 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 2: but they'll point you in the right direction. They'll help you. 328 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: They've been there before, they've already done it. Your case 329 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 2: ain't the first case under the sun. 330 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 4: He got into this work because of his passion for 331 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 4: service and its emotional work. But after a decade of experience, 332 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 4: there's also a familiar pattern. 333 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: To the job. 334 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 2: Well, I might get off from work, i might get 335 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 2: a call and I might go in through a general 336 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 2: intake with a family. It may be over the internet, 337 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 2: it might be over the phone. They'll throw me some 338 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 2: known location with the person frequent We'll go there with 339 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 2: set surveillance because we're all creatures, are habit and we 340 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 2: may head out. I might do some reverse phone checks. 341 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 2: They may be getting calls from their loved one from 342 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 2: a given number, and they may want me to find 343 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 2: out what's the location, where are they at? So we'll 344 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 2: go and try to figure out where they are. We'll 345 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 2: use social media to look at the background or where 346 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 2: they took a picture at, and we'll try to figure 347 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 2: out where they are, where they may be hanging out 348 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 2: at a lot of my work involves surveillance. Because you 349 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 2: got the lead detective to sworn law enforce an officer. 350 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 2: He's lived doing the heavy lifting in the office. I 351 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 2: might go out there day to day and I might 352 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 2: just be sitting at a location and our positivity ID 353 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,479 Speaker 2: to missing person. They never see me or know anything 354 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 2: about I'm there. I call nine one one MPD Patrol Services, 355 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 2: come contact the missing person, bring them back in if 356 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 2: they're under eighteen. If they're over eighteen, they'll notify the 357 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 2: family and missing person has been located. So a lot 358 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 2: of it is surveillance and and light investigating work. 359 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 4: Henderson took us on a ride along through his patrol routine. 360 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,719 Speaker 4: My producer Jamie and I sat in his suv as 361 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 4: Henderson drove around the neighborhoods doing standard surveillance. 362 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 2: So we're just gonna ride there and you know, you 363 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 2: guys can take a look. This is every day what 364 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 2: you're gonna see every single day, sun up the sundown. 365 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 2: This is what's going on in the community, and it's perpetuating. 366 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 3: Our most severe cases. 367 00:20:40,680 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 4: Are, Henderson long says, the tasks and become routine, but 368 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 4: every case is different. There are abductions like the case 369 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 4: of Relitia Rudd, an eight year old girl who went 370 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 4: missing in twenty fourteen and runaways like Henderson's niece. On 371 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 4: our ride along, he talked about other cases he's worked on. 372 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 2: Right now, we at nineteenth and Benning Road. Between nineteenth 373 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 2: and Benning Road and fifteenth and Benning Road, it's kind 374 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 2: of like an area where we have a lot of 375 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 2: missing persons that we find In this area, there's a 376 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 2: lot of drugs, a lot of heroin. I don't know 377 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 2: whether you guys know about K two and PCP. K 378 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 2: two is a drug that's killing. 379 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 3: A lot of people. 380 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 2: When I know you might know about PCP, it makes 381 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: you hallucinate, and so it's a lot of the usage 382 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 2: of that drug here and that's prompting some of the 383 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: missing person's cases. It's prompting some of the violence assaults 384 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 2: because sometimes they think things are happening that are not 385 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: happening because they're hallucinating. Just the fact that they're out 386 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 2: here unsupervised. It's a big can of worms. You never know, 387 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 2: snake eyes. It could turn up snake eyes and we 388 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 2: find a young person either in jail or dead. I 389 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: had another missing person's case, Dominique Franklin. He was murdered, 390 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: he was missing, and he was located. He went before 391 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 2: the judge and judged gave him some orders to do something. 392 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 2: He said, screw the judge and screw everybody and walked off. 393 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 3: And the day later he was found dead, shot in 394 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 3: the head. He left on his own. 395 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 2: Nobody targeted him, but in the end he still wound 396 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 2: up losing and he was sixteen. 397 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 3: So Dominique Franklin is another. 398 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 2: Case that I kind of worked in the end of it, 399 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: the last part of it. I kind of got involved 400 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 2: with it a little bit. But missing persons can lead 401 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 2: to anything. It could turn up them getting arrested for 402 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 2: something for the rest of their life, or them loosing 403 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 2: their life or taking somebody else's life. 404 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 4: The discrepancy between the number of cases and the resources 405 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 4: available to solve them mean many slip through the cracks. 406 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 4: In episode ten, we talked about Relasia Rudd. She was 407 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 4: missing for weeks before her case received any media attention, 408 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 4: and she has still not been found. Henderson says publicity 409 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 4: can bring children home safely. 410 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 2: Keeping the cases out there and the public's eye educating 411 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 2: them about it. That's what really expired, and put the 412 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 2: pressure on the police to do something them. 413 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 3: Families have to pressure. 414 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 2: The police, you know, they have to continue to press 415 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 2: the police and anybody who can help publicize their case. 416 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 3: That's what keep your case alive. I mean, you know, 417 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 3: that's what keep these cases alive. 418 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 2: That's why we the way we all with relaship uds 419 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 2: because we don't want the community to go to sleep 420 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 2: on people will forget about the start them. You don't 421 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 2: say nothing, and you don't keep making noise about it, 422 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 2: they'll forget. 423 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 3: They will forget. 424 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 4: There's a big question that hangs over Henderson's work. What 425 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 4: issues in the community are contributing to the more than 426 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 4: two thousand cases of missing children each year in DC? 427 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 4: Why do so many cases slip through the cracks, and 428 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 4: how can we begin to solve the socioeconomic issues at play. 429 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 2: You do have people who've become victim of their circumstance, 430 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 2: whatever's around them. That there's drugs, if it was domestic 431 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 2: violence in the home, if it was poverty in general, 432 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 2: because poverty is our motivating factor here when we start 433 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 2: talking about these issues. The Mayor of Washington, DC formed 434 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 2: a task force that we was examining and we started 435 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 2: looking at missing persons and we started looking at solutions, 436 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 2: and we couldn't find it. Cookie cutter one fits all 437 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 2: because we've realized, Man, you talking about a great, big 438 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 2: social issue. The family structure is the number one pre 439 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: person and what drives that generational wealth gaps shoot domestic 440 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 2: violence in the home. Maybe the new boyfriend is touching 441 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 2: the daughter, or maybe the new boyfriend is hitting the mother, 442 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 2: or maybe it's lack of affordable houses. We got eighty 443 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 2: people living in one home. Somebody going out of there 444 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 2: and use as the kids. It's a lot of stress, 445 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 2: you know. We don't have a lot of hardcore solutions 446 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 2: and real outreach in terms of services for mental health. 447 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 3: You know. 448 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 2: So you see crazy cases you get out of here, 449 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 2: like Militia Rudd, and you start wondering, how could the 450 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 2: mama do this? 451 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 3: Not when you look at the family. 452 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 4: Henderson says, sometimes kids run away from home because something 453 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 4: drives them away, domestic violence, drug use. Sometimes they're lured 454 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 4: away by predators like the freeway phantom. But he says, 455 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 4: no matter the reason why they left home, all missing 456 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 4: persons cases need to be treated with the same level 457 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 4: of seriousness. 458 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's a lot of coercion, you know. 459 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 2: Sometimes it's a lot of dynamics within the person walking 460 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 2: out the door on their own, Just because they left 461 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 2: on their own. 462 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 3: I got another case for you. 463 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 2: Jolie Musa from Virginia voluntarily walked out of her home 464 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 2: to go meet a young man and never return. Now, 465 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: just because she voluntarily left, we don't need to down 466 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 2: play her case and think that she's a runaway, see 467 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 2: because at that point, when you do that, a lot 468 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 2: of the action that's supposed to be taken isn't taken. Now, 469 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 2: have we started looking for her sooner? Could we have 470 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 2: found her alive and maybe saved her. 471 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 3: We'll never know. 472 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 4: Begins at home. It's staying in touch with our communities. 473 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 2: When someone goes missing, especially a child, is chaos. You 474 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 2: don't know how to put your left shoe on from 475 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 2: the right. Y're some things you think you will remember, 476 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 2: you won't remember. We should know our patterns, our loved 477 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 2: ones patterns. We should check up on them. You know, 478 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 2: we shouldn't be so distant. And you know the technology 479 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 2: now on the phones and everybody email, and you know 480 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 2: you got to give people a call and see, you know, 481 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,239 Speaker 2: just how they're doing. I got the older sister and 482 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 2: you know, she called me and let me know she home, 483 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 2: you know, and stuff like that. So we got to 484 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 2: check on each other. We have to take care of 485 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 2: each other. 486 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 3: In the communities and our families. 487 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 2: This is important because you we have some cases where 488 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 2: the missing person wasn't reported missing for oh they were 489 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 2: last seeing one year ago, by the families being so 490 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 2: estranged times of the essence and the missing person's case, 491 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 2: getting that report in and getting the investigation going early 492 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 2: to trace going. 493 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 4: When we attended one of Henderson's community outreach events in 494 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 4: Southeast DC, he laid out the Metropolitan Police Department's five 495 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 4: steps to prepare you in the event your loved one 496 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 4: goes missing. 497 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: The biggest problem with having in the District of Columbia 498 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 2: they not being reported in a timely manner. 499 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 3: So much time elapsed. 500 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 2: The case of Karan Jones, it was two days the 501 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 2: dumpster was gone on to China. So that, I mean, 502 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 2: that's the first step, is just reporting them. 503 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 4: In episode nine, we mentioned the case of Kayon Jones, 504 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 4: a two month old whose mother confessed that she rolled 505 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 4: over on Chaon and he stopped breathing. She later placed 506 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 4: his body in a dumpster. Kayon's remains were sadly never recovered. 507 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 2: What we're trying to do is trying to get people 508 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 2: to understand, call for help, call the police, because seeing 509 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 2: after the medical examiner it came out and examined his 510 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 2: body and realized there was no trauma to the body. 511 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 2: Everything jobs that we had just been an accident, but 512 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 2: by him being thrown into a dumpster and they never 513 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 2: been able to find him to do any kind of 514 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 2: examination or determine anything with any kind of medical certainty. 515 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 2: It just looks suspicious. And then you give us eighty 516 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 2: ninety different stories and we don't know what to believe. 517 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 2: And then you know, you throw a little bit of 518 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 2: substance abuse in there, and you know, the social things, 519 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 2: and then you got yeah, man, you got some stuff. 520 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 4: As for Henderson's future in this line of work, he 521 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 4: told us he's looking to transition into doing it full time. 522 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 2: Well, I always had a vision that that DC would 523 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 2: lead the country and take the leadership role on missing persons. 524 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 3: That it should. 525 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 2: We're going to continue to work and work and work 526 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 2: and never be complacent about missing person and what more 527 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 2: we can do to. 528 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 3: Locate missing persons quickly? 529 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 2: You know we can We can never rest, you can 530 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 2: never rest on this stuff. There's never a situation of complacency. 531 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 2: The more you go through it, you learn because every case, 532 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 2: every single case got a different twist in it, which 533 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 2: requires certain level of readiness. So talking about all these 534 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 2: different things and implementing all these different tools that we 535 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 2: can use. It's so much work to be done. But 536 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 2: I'm hoping that DC will continue on. I'm gonna keep 537 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 2: pushing legislators to get legislation. Going back to initial investigations, obstruction, 538 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 2: lying to investigators, I think that there should be a 539 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 2: penalty for that if we find out your line or 540 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 2: you don't provide correct information, And in Washington, DC, there's 541 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 2: really no penalty for that. 542 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 3: In Maryland, if. 543 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 2: Your child is missing and they under the age of 544 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 2: eighteen or thirteen, you better be. 545 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 3: Reporting and within twenty four hours if. 546 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 2: They investigate and they find out you knew and as 547 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 2: a result of your negligence, the child suffers trauma cal 548 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 2: on the felony. 549 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 3: And here in DC they don't have that. So we 550 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 3: hope in DC will step it up legislatively. 551 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 2: Were hoping they'll step it up from a law enforcement perspective, 552 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 2: and definitely the community. 553 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 3: Community is huge, way bigger than law enforcement. 554 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 2: Get the community involved and active in the use of 555 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 2: the technology and the tools and stuff. 556 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 3: Are we cooking with gas then that's what I'm hoping. 557 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 4: We want to give special thanks to Henderson Long for 558 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 4: all his work on the Freeway Phantom case and his 559 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 4: support of this podcast. He's been instrumental in helping us 560 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 4: tell the story of these young girls, both from the 561 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 4: nineteen seventies and today. Henderson's work in the community is vital. 562 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 4: His organization, DC's Missing Voice, is an official five oh 563 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 4: one C three nonprofit. If you want to support the 564 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 4: work he does, reach out at Henderson dot Long twenty 565 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 4: two at iCloud dot com, or you can find the 566 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 4: DC's Missing Voice Facebook page and stay up to date 567 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 4: on current missing persons cases. 568 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: Freeway Fantom is a production of iHeartRadio, Tenderfoot TV, and 569 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: Black Bar MITZVAH. 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A new total reward of 587 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: up to three hundred thousand dollars is now being offered. 588 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: If you have any information relating to these unsolved crimes, 589 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: contact the Metropolitan Police Department at area code two zero 590 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: two seven two seven nine zero ninety nine. For more information, 591 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: Please visit freewayanom dot com for more podcasts from iHeartRadio 592 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: and Tenderfoot TV. Visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or 593 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Thanks for listening.