Speaker 1: From my arm Radio Common Enemy contendum with TV's They
Speaker 1: Pal podcast Pal, Hey Pal with Jared and Davon, Hey Pal,
Speaker 1: Hey Pal. Wow look at this. This is a little different,
Speaker 1: super weird. This is a little different. Um, you know
Speaker 1: my normal co host Jared Einstein, Jared Einsen, Jason Jared Einsen,
Speaker 1: Is eins Iceman, Ice Iceman, Jared Iceman. Yes, he unfortunately
Speaker 1: can't be here today. Um is some of you know,
Speaker 1: our good friend Captain Quinn, very talented photographer, and Jared.
Speaker 1: They have a a little bit of a fetish um
Speaker 1: but not in a in a negative sexual way. But
Speaker 1: they're big Mario Kart players. Oh that's true. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: love the Ramball run obsess, they love the Mario Kart
Speaker 1: and um, they actually flew out to a Mario Kart
Speaker 1: tournament uh in the West this weekend. I love that.
Speaker 1: That's a thing. And honestly, now that you're saying that,
Speaker 1: I'm jealous that I'm not there with them, so you'd
Speaker 1: rather be there with them than here with me. Hold,
Speaker 1: they be there, not with them, just there to play
Speaker 1: Mario Kart, fair enough. So if they're there, yeah, then
Speaker 1: all right, no, no no, I understand, I understand that. So
Speaker 1: now this is interesting today because, um, you know we've
Speaker 1: joked a lot on the show, and and and Kyle's
Speaker 1: our our amazing producer. Um, Jared and I are huge
Speaker 1: sports fans, I mean massive, massive sports fans. Uh. And
Speaker 1: obviously film and entertainment fans. And uh, Kyle really has
Speaker 1: no interest in sports whatsoever? Zero? How does how does
Speaker 1: that happen to one? Well, it's not like I'm not
Speaker 1: athletic or I don't like sports, right. I grew up
Speaker 1: playing hockey and baseball and skateboarding and all the stuff.
Speaker 1: What were your some of the positions that you played, Kyle,
Speaker 1: what were some of the Uh? Well, I was right
Speaker 1: wing in hockey, actually played goalie in US soccer wows
Speaker 1: they say football, footbootball, see um, and a striker as well.
Speaker 1: I love to at a great time, was the best.
Speaker 1: I was a total athlete growing up. But then you
Speaker 1: get older and you just I have a life, so
Speaker 1: you do things. So you're saying sports fans life, I
Speaker 1: would say that most sports fans are a little too
Speaker 1: obsessed with their fandom. Okay, do you have any teams
Speaker 1: that you enjoy? Like? Who did you root for the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl? You know who I have no idea who
Speaker 1: was in the Super Bowler? Oh no, Brady Brady one.
Speaker 1: And you only know that guy. He's got great hair.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, you know the guys with good hair. We
Speaker 1: just follow each other. We like, he's a friend of mine.
Speaker 1: We talked going trips together. And you guys talk about
Speaker 1: hair and conditioner only the only product, just just hair product.
Speaker 1: How technique you know when to get it cut, how
Speaker 1: to cut it? Well, what's your stance on leaving conditions?
Speaker 1: Is that? Is that a thing? No? Not a thing
Speaker 1: for us guys with real hair, we don't do. Wow,
Speaker 1: was the guy taking Jared? The Jared's of the world
Speaker 1: used used leaving leaving? Well, there's a lot of leaving
Speaker 1: going out with Jared leaving conditioner. He leaves us to
Speaker 1: go play Mario Kart does or go to a poker tournament? Yes,
Speaker 1: who knows what's gonna happen next? He wears many hats.
Speaker 1: Well he has to bad hair. Well that that that
Speaker 1: is true? That well very well, so it makes sense
Speaker 1: all right, So we are off and running. Um, we
Speaker 1: have an incredible guest today happens to be a very
Speaker 1: very dear friend of mine. We just came back from
Speaker 1: a trip to Miami recently and UM, incredibly talented actress.
Speaker 1: She's been in the business from a very very early age.
Speaker 1: Was on a couple of very popular Disney shows including
Speaker 1: Shake It Up, Shake It Up, My Buddy Brandon Johnson
Speaker 1: was on that show. Brandon was on there, Yes good
Speaker 1: Man and uh pow, Power of Yours and um, she's
Speaker 1: just done so much. And what's really cool for me
Speaker 1: as her friend is to see her growing to the
Speaker 1: woman that she's become. She's twenty three years old now,
Speaker 1: and she really does things her way and she doesn't
Speaker 1: back down from challenges, she doesn't back down from criticism.
Speaker 1: And uh, she she's a boss. And that's gonna be
Speaker 1: a little bit of a theme. She's bad. Um. So
Speaker 1: with that being said, super excited today to have Bella Thorne,
Speaker 1: Bella Thorne, let's go on the Hey Pal podcast. Hey Pal?
Speaker 1: So exciting alright, b So we're just gonna jump right
Speaker 1: into it because you're involved in so many different things. Um.
Speaker 1: In sports, there's athletes that they like playing offense, some
Speaker 1: athletes like playing defense. UM, As someone who is multitalented,
Speaker 1: what do you think would make you happier? Because you're
Speaker 1: so you do so many different things you do offense,
Speaker 1: you defense, Having a hit movie would make you happier
Speaker 1: or having a hit song? What excites you more? Uh?
Speaker 1: I think a hit song because then it's on the
Speaker 1: radio and you know that everyone's listening to it whether
Speaker 1: they like it or not. It's kind of forced in
Speaker 1: their years, which is kind of fun, right, Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe on the radio on the radio. Yeah. Well, it's
Speaker 1: it's interesting you say that because you know in sports,
Speaker 1: a lot of times a picture who's that's a defensive player.
Speaker 1: They like to bat sometimes, and and they get more
Speaker 1: excited about hitting a home run, which is not typically
Speaker 1: what they do, than getting a strike out. Well, but
Speaker 1: typically they're not batting, so it's like a new thing, right.
Speaker 1: So is that the reason why or is it because
Speaker 1: batting is way more exciting than you No. I think
Speaker 1: that's the reason why, because it's not their typical things.
Speaker 1: So I think also for Bella, and correct me if
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, you've been doing the acting thing for years
Speaker 1: and you have been seeing but you've been known more
Speaker 1: for being an actress than for being a singer. So
Speaker 1: I think for you that's probably why the singing side
Speaker 1: of it is a little bit more exciting, the success
Speaker 1: and that. Yeah, And I think it has to do
Speaker 1: with like, you know, how many times do you re
Speaker 1: watch your favorite movie? Where as opposed to how many
Speaker 1: times do you really listen to your favorite songs? You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's much higher there. So I know it is
Speaker 1: fun when you get it is fun and not fun
Speaker 1: when you get a song stuck in your head that
Speaker 1: you can't get out of your head. So I was
Speaker 1: just in Montana skiing and my friend's daughter kept playing
Speaker 1: that song by Testo Let's get down, Let's get down
Speaker 1: to business, and I could not get it out of
Speaker 1: my head. It drive me crazy. I've never heard it
Speaker 1: and now I definitely don't want to hear it. Hear you,
Speaker 1: you don't want to hear it. B. What's the last
Speaker 1: song that you got stuck in your head? Can you
Speaker 1: think of one? It's probably oh. Actually, Ben, he just
Speaker 1: recorded a new song um and it's oh my god,
Speaker 1: the chorus like, I can't get the chorus out of
Speaker 1: my head. And he was like, well, that's how I
Speaker 1: felt about s f B, So fuck you. That's awesome. Now.
Speaker 1: Ben Bell is referring to her fiance congratulations, which is awesome. Ring.
Speaker 1: There's the bling, there's the bling, that's the found phantom
Speaker 1: rolls Royce on the finger. Is that a pair cut?
Speaker 1: By the way, Oh, do we lose her? Oh? Your
Speaker 1: ring was so big it broke the sky. You actually
Speaker 1: it broke the show. This is the hay pal first. Uh,
Speaker 1: you're asking if it was a pair cut? A pausing, Yes,
Speaker 1: it's beautiful, it's my favorite. Yes, you wouldn't know anything
Speaker 1: about this because you're forever going to be single. Well,
Speaker 1: unfortunately it looks that way. But I do live in
Speaker 1: l A, So that might not be a bad thing.
Speaker 1: It might be a good thing. We'll see. I adoptive.
Speaker 1: I've seen your I've seen your lifestyle. I think you
Speaker 1: need to find somebody Asa buddy. Yeah, I don't understand
Speaker 1: why you still need to catch the great qualities of
Speaker 1: dating a person, like what what's tepening it? Well, for me,
Speaker 1: the problem is it's it's this city. I think if
Speaker 1: I lived in another city. I think if I lived
Speaker 1: in Iowa, I would be married for no doubt. So
Speaker 1: all right, So we're talking about sports entertainment and some
Speaker 1: athletes they have to overcome obstacles to reach their dreams
Speaker 1: and goals. Uh. Sometimes they're told they're not big enough.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they're told they're not fast enough, they're not tall enough,
Speaker 1: they're not strong enough. Now, you've had to overcome some
Speaker 1: things in your life, and you've been very very vocal
Speaker 1: about talking about that, which I really admire and is
Speaker 1: really brave of you. Um. You've openly talked about having
Speaker 1: to deal with dyslexia and having to overcome having acne
Speaker 1: growing up. Um, how did you overcome those things to
Speaker 1: become the success that you've become. Um, I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know that it's really like overcoming. It's more so
Speaker 1: like you learn to work with yourself. I think part
Speaker 1: of the thing is, you know, really getting mad at
Speaker 1: yourself for whatever that thing is that you don't you
Speaker 1: know have And mine in the beginning of acting was
Speaker 1: reading and writing and uh and numbers. I just like
Speaker 1: couldn't do any of them, and I just read everything
Speaker 1: I could the streets, stop signs, the billboards on the streets,
Speaker 1: the menu at dinner, and anything that I could read,
Speaker 1: I read. And even with acting, it took like a
Speaker 1: good amount of telling for me to be able to
Speaker 1: just read through on my own without having to sit
Speaker 1: with my mom and my mom be like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is what this word is, but not how you're saying it,
Speaker 1: um so. And with dancing, yeah, I didn't dance before
Speaker 1: I Shake it up. I had two left feet, I
Speaker 1: had no rhythm, and I completely learned how to dance
Speaker 1: on that show. Was singing. I couldn't sing for a
Speaker 1: long time, and Hollywood Records would and give me time
Speaker 1: to work on my voice. So then I said I
Speaker 1: hated singing because I didn't like my voice and I
Speaker 1: didn't want to use auto tune, which I don't on
Speaker 1: any of my album now, and getting back into singing,
Speaker 1: it was all just about learning how to breathe. I
Speaker 1: didn't realize that I had this, all these breathing problems
Speaker 1: that I that I that I wasn't using when I
Speaker 1: was singing, and they're like, that's how you can't hold
Speaker 1: a note bell or you're not breathing, And so it
Speaker 1: really just took finding the right teacher and the right
Speaker 1: work ethic to get me there, I think with anything
Speaker 1: in life, even with our label. So I just asked
Speaker 1: me to interview the other day, like what you know,
Speaker 1: what kind of talent do you look for? In your label.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I look for talent, now I look for
Speaker 1: hard work. You know, you could be a shitty ass artist,
Speaker 1: but if you're a hard worker, we'll take you on
Speaker 1: the label and we will put you with the right
Speaker 1: people to get the right sound that you want to make.
Speaker 1: Like you know, for me, a hard working person is
Speaker 1: much more interesting than a talented person because anybody can
Speaker 1: be talented. You just have to learn how to do
Speaker 1: whatever you're gonna do. And if you're a hard worker,
Speaker 1: you're gonna learn it no matter what and become great
Speaker 1: at it. And I just I love that about people.
Speaker 1: And that's incredibly well said. And you know, with a
Speaker 1: lot of your greatest athletes, you know the guys that
Speaker 1: have really become great, Yes they had the talent, but
Speaker 1: it was really the work ethic that set them apart.
Speaker 1: When people talk about Kobe Bryant's work ethic, Michael Jordan's
Speaker 1: work ethic, Tom Brady's work ethic, these were guys that,
Speaker 1: you know, Tom Brady's case, he wasn't even a top
Speaker 1: draft pick and he just worked his butt off to
Speaker 1: become as great as he did. So don't go anywhere, hey,
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Speaker 1: You're an author, you're a singer, you're a director, you're
Speaker 1: a movie star, you're a TV star, you're doing it
Speaker 1: all building a studio and um, you know, in the
Speaker 1: sports world, just like a team owner, you know, every
Speaker 1: every boss has a team, a great team around them,
Speaker 1: you know, to be the boss up. And so just
Speaker 1: like a sports team owner, you know, wants to provide
Speaker 1: a great locker room or great plane or you know,
Speaker 1: to treat their players as well so they perform, you
Speaker 1: have a team as well. And so what do you
Speaker 1: do as a boss too, you know, to get your
Speaker 1: team motivated and to make your team as as good
Speaker 1: as possible. That's a that's a good question. I think that, Uh,
Speaker 1: one of the best things I do as a boss
Speaker 1: is I don't harp, you know, and I just say, like,
Speaker 1: this wasn't done right, and you say, okay, I'll do
Speaker 1: it better next time, and I say, okay, what's next
Speaker 1: on the list? Like and you know, I think that
Speaker 1: when you're a boss, anytime someone does something that you like,
Speaker 1: you have to really reward them and let them know,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is amazing. You did this perfectly.
Speaker 1: Thank you. So much. Wow, I love this, thank you,
Speaker 1: and I think that it makes people want to work
Speaker 1: more with you. And everybody wants to be good at
Speaker 1: their job, so if you're not rewarding someone, people reward
Speaker 1: people with incentives or whatever. You know, this is also good.
Speaker 1: But I think that really it's the mental reward that
Speaker 1: people want. They want to feel like they're good at
Speaker 1: their fucking jobs. So like everyone wants to feel like that.
Speaker 1: So when someone tells you, hey, good job, and you
Speaker 1: respect their opinion, you're much more likely to do better
Speaker 1: next time as well and and want to do, you know,
Speaker 1: as good as you have been. Um. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: think as far as getting people hyped up, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm never that hyped. So it's it's kind of hard
Speaker 1: to hype my team up when someone's like, oh, Bella,
Speaker 1: you just spooke this huge thing that you wanted for
Speaker 1: a really long time, and I'm like really Sick's like
Speaker 1: that's so cool, and everyone's like, yeah, Well, I think
Speaker 1: one thing you know about you, and I've been around
Speaker 1: you enough to know that, I think with you, you're
Speaker 1: all about people taking responsibility, whether that's a good thing
Speaker 1: or bad things. So I've seen you if if someone
Speaker 1: screws up and they take responsibility and they say, you
Speaker 1: know what, I screwed up, you're like cool, like you
Speaker 1: don't freak out on them. You just don't want to
Speaker 1: hear as a boss like, oh no, no I didn't.
Speaker 1: It was actually someone so small and and here's the
Speaker 1: five reasons why I'm like, bitch, I don't care love you,
Speaker 1: but literally just do the job. We don't need to
Speaker 1: talk about the eighty million reasons why it got fucked up.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to be done better next time. Yeah, exactly, No,
Speaker 1: that's all. And that's why you're a boss. That's right,
Speaker 1: being a strong woman and doing things your way. In
Speaker 1: sports right now, there's a big debate over women athletes
Speaker 1: and male athletes not making the same amount of money.
Speaker 1: It's like a big, big topic of discussion right now
Speaker 1: in sports. It's it's been around for years. Uh and golf,
Speaker 1: you know, the main golfers they win a bigger prize
Speaker 1: in the female golfers. What's it's it's in every form
Speaker 1: of life, like you know, the pay gap, so in
Speaker 1: any jobs, you know, it's just now it's becoming bigger
Speaker 1: in each lane because people now is the time to listen.
Speaker 1: Now is the time that people are talking and people
Speaker 1: are actually taking it into consideration and hopefully moving the
Speaker 1: needle forward in the in the right area. But I mean,
Speaker 1: you know my thoughts on it obviously, which is very clear,
Speaker 1: you guys, we're not asking for more, We're asking for
Speaker 1: the same. And I think that's also why feminism, Like
Speaker 1: there's you know, such a bad connotation around the word
Speaker 1: feminism because people think that feminists want to kill all
Speaker 1: men on earth or to like make sure they have
Speaker 1: nothing and we have everything. And it's like, no, that's
Speaker 1: not the case. We just want to be treated equal.
Speaker 1: It's not that much to ask for. And actually I
Speaker 1: have a I have a question, and you feel free
Speaker 1: not to answer this either. You know, we can always
Speaker 1: edit this stuff, but um, you know, I do wonder like,
Speaker 1: as far as the pay gap goes in film, you know,
Speaker 1: when you're dealing with a big studio, do you feel
Speaker 1: like the pay gap is bigger or more prevalent in
Speaker 1: a big studio film than in indie films? Because I'm
Speaker 1: an indie predier. I've done a million indie films and
Speaker 1: I've never at least in my films it's always very
Speaker 1: like whoever is leading this movie, that's who's getting the paycheck, right,
Speaker 1: And so it's not about like always in a manner
Speaker 1: as it a woman or anything like that. So I
Speaker 1: just wonder in your experience, because you've done so many films,
Speaker 1: if you know, if you see a difference in the
Speaker 1: bigger movies. Mm hmm, yeah, I would say there is
Speaker 1: probably on the Indian movies that I've worked on, I
Speaker 1: haven't seen. Obviously you don't know everyone else's numbers. Of
Speaker 1: course that's like a legal thing. But as friends, it's
Speaker 1: like the Crown. You know, you've got these two actors
Speaker 1: and she's saying someone needs to pay any more and
Speaker 1: they're saying no, But you guys are both the lead,
Speaker 1: like you both take the show home, you take the cake,
Speaker 1: you know, you split it, and like that just really
Speaker 1: wasn't right, like that, that wasn't right. And I really
Speaker 1: respect her for, you know, um, for like leaving the show,
Speaker 1: you know, for you know, Hollywood is everyone wants to
Speaker 1: do their job, everyone wants to make it. Everyone signs
Speaker 1: a contract and feels like you know that that that
Speaker 1: they're now connected to this project. And if you have
Speaker 1: to step off a project to show yourself some self worth,
Speaker 1: to show others that you know, Like, she's definitely one
Speaker 1: of the first to really step off and say okay,
Speaker 1: if you're not if you're not going to treat me equally,
Speaker 1: then buy. Such a hard move to make, and in
Speaker 1: the industry is so frowned upon, so I just really
Speaker 1: respect her for for doing it. You know, it's one
Speaker 1: thing to say something, but then when they say we're
Speaker 1: not giving it to you, you gotta walk away. That's
Speaker 1: a hard thing to do. And she's, uh, class, mom,
Speaker 1: what is up? I agree? I agree? What's the name
Speaker 1: of your dog by the way, mommy? And there's Wolfie
Speaker 1: and there's Grumps. Yeah, that's a great Now. Um, you
Speaker 1: do all these different things, And how his doing all
Speaker 1: these different things made you a better How has it
Speaker 1: made you a better singer? Having, you know, being involved
Speaker 1: in so many different things. How has it made you
Speaker 1: a better actor? Um m hmm, good question. I think
Speaker 1: that one thing that's made me a better singer for
Speaker 1: sure and rapper is being able to because I've been
Speaker 1: raised so much in film. When I look at a story,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at story points, so I'm looking at a
Speaker 1: character arc. I'm looking at entertainment value, you know, and
Speaker 1: I think it's so fun when I bring that into
Speaker 1: my writing. I stopped the song to do a whole
Speaker 1: big thing that you're like, why are we even stopping
Speaker 1: the song to do this? But it's total entertainment value stuff.
Speaker 1: And as well as when I'm writing, it's so much
Speaker 1: about the story that I'm telling and each part of
Speaker 1: the story, not just oh, let's make a fun song today,
Speaker 1: you know, which I think is really has helped me
Speaker 1: a lot with my album because they're all stories. They're
Speaker 1: all like little movies. Yeah, and Phantom the video you know,
Speaker 1: Kyle watch Curlier. It's got millions and millions of downloads
Speaker 1: in a week already. Um, that's a perfect example, you know,
Speaker 1: the story that you're telling. What that yeo that goes
Speaker 1: with the song is awesome, so very cool. Um. Alright,
Speaker 1: So with all these things and all these things that
Speaker 1: you do. If I put a gun to your head
Speaker 1: and I told you you were a professional athlete, what
Speaker 1: sport would you play in? What position? Um? I would
Speaker 1: definitely play soccer or basketball, And I am not sure
Speaker 1: which position. When I played soccer, uh, when I sorry,
Speaker 1: when I played basketball. I did a her movie with
Speaker 1: Adam Sandler, and Adam is a great basketball player and
Speaker 1: every one of his producers and everyone on his team
Speaker 1: has to like play, which is really funny that he
Speaker 1: does this on every single movie. It's like really playing.
Speaker 1: And he taught me how to play. And within a
Speaker 1: week I was so good and everyone I was just
Speaker 1: shooting three pointers. I was doing up for here. Everyone
Speaker 1: was just like, Nora, that's awesome, let's go like there.
Speaker 1: We was so hyped, and I was like, oh, I
Speaker 1: actually I didn't know I would ever like basketball. I
Speaker 1: love baseball growing up. That's the sport that I watched.
Speaker 1: So I was just so like kind of shocked. And
Speaker 1: when it comes to soccer, my best friend has played
Speaker 1: soccer like uh, kind of her whole life. And whenever
Speaker 1: I played with you know, her and her friends growing up,
Speaker 1: every moment and just be like, you would be on
Speaker 1: the team, girl, you would be on the team. And
Speaker 1: I have really strong legs and I'm a pretty fast runner,
Speaker 1: so like my legs definitely like I have no arm strength, Okay,
Speaker 1: there's nothing here, but I can push like, uhred pounds
Speaker 1: on my legs. Do that? You know, when you do
Speaker 1: like the leg spot things. Yeah, awesome legs. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: let's say back to business. Yeah, well, Dave actually know
Speaker 1: as the producer, I have to stop the show. We
Speaker 1: this is a two part episode. All of our shows
Speaker 1: are two parts, So now we have to stop this episode.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be back on Thursday for part two of
Speaker 1: this for part two, and we'll have a lot of
Speaker 1: our favorite segments. Oh yeah, we got the playoffs. We
Speaker 1: have the playoffs seating spelling, B spelling be and I
Speaker 1: we're gonna see how you do with that. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: hopefully Jared doesn't come back, because I would actually want
Speaker 1: to finish this episode. Yeah, I think that's fair. I'd
Speaker 1: love to be here for this. Yeah, I think that
Speaker 1: works to I think I'm okay with that. Pal, And
Speaker 1: hopefully Jared and Captain Quinn or Mario karting away and
Speaker 1: doing well. Yeah, good luck man, What if they win
Speaker 1: like that would be amazing. It'll never happen. Good like
Speaker 1: a trophy probably. You know. The thing, no one would care.
Speaker 1: That's the main thing to take away from the whole experience.
Speaker 1: This is this is incredibly true. Yeah, nobody care, right,
Speaker 1: No one cares. No one cares alright, Part two Thursday,
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