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Speaker 1: Welcome to Wellness Unmask. I'm doctor Nicole Saffire, Board certified doctor.

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Speaker 1: I'm a mom, I'm a woman, and I'm just one

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Speaker 1: of those forever truth seekers as we embark on this

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Speaker 1: podcast journey together. It is our first episode. I thought

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Speaker 1: it's going to be important to talk about why I

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Speaker 1: am so into wellness. Sure, I'm a doctor and I'm

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Speaker 1: supposed to care about health and all of that medical stuff.

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Speaker 1: But it really wasn't until I found myself on the

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Speaker 1: other side of the exam table as the patient that

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Speaker 1: I decided to dig a little bit deeper. And let

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Speaker 1: me tell you, when they say doctors make the worst patients,

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Speaker 1: we absolutely do. So now I find myself living my

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Speaker 1: life a combination of traditional Western medicine, but I have

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Speaker 1: also done a deep dive into more Eastern techniques wellness,

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Speaker 1: natural remedies. I'm all about it. And let me tell

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Speaker 1: you a little bit about why.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 1: I would say for the last ten years of my life,

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Speaker 1: I had some very obvious symptoms and if it was

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Speaker 1: written in like an exam format, like if I was

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Speaker 1: sitting down taking my medical boards and they listed out

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Speaker 1: the symptoms lam dunk, I would have known exactly what

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Speaker 1: it was is so classic. Looking back, living it was

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Speaker 1: an entirely different experience. I would complain a little bit,

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Speaker 1: oh this hurts a little bit my eye. I would

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Speaker 1: wake up one morning and would be beat red and

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Speaker 1: incredibly painful, and ah, you know what, I'd give it

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Speaker 1: some time, give it some time. Year after year after year.

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Speaker 1: I would just kind of deal with it, tell my

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Speaker 1: husband a little bit about it. And then finally, when

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Speaker 1: symptoms kind of got pretty unbearable, I had to have

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Speaker 1: that big sigh and say, something's going on. And while

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Speaker 1: I love that I'm trying to manage myself being the

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Speaker 1: doctor and the patient, it's not working. I'm failing as

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Speaker 1: my own doctor and the patient, and also me is

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Speaker 1: suffering because of it. So I decided to go see

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Speaker 1: a rhumatologist. And one of the hardest things for me

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Speaker 1: going to see a doctor is I walk into the

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Speaker 1: room and I automatically think I know more than them,

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Speaker 1: which is ridiculous because, by no strets of the imagination,

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Speaker 1: do I know anything about rheumatology and autoimmune diseases other

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Speaker 1: than what I learned in medical school. And let me

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Speaker 1: tell you, at this point, just about everything I learned

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Speaker 1: in medical school is pretty outdated. It's quite antiquated. So

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Speaker 1: I'm going to remind myself that I am an expert

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Speaker 1: in one thing, and that's cancer. So it wasn't cancer

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Speaker 1: that was causing my symptoms. So I had to take

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Speaker 1: a back seat real fast and realize I don't even

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Speaker 1: I don't know anything about me, and I really needed

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Speaker 1: some help. That's really hard for people is to recognize

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Speaker 1: when you need help. For me specifically, I find it

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Speaker 1: very hard to admit that I'm not running at one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent, that I don't know what's going on, and

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Speaker 1: even more, I don't know how to fix it. But

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Speaker 1: thankfully I was able to find a doctor who did.

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Speaker 1: I had to go to a couple of rhumatologists. You

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Speaker 1: always you know, if you don't have that bond with

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Speaker 1: your doctor, if you don't feel like it's clicking, they're

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Speaker 1: not the right one for you. They may be brilliant,

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Speaker 1: they may be at the biggest name institutions, but it's

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Speaker 1: a feeling. It's a relationship. You have to have a

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Speaker 1: relationship with your doctor. You have to trust them, and

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Speaker 1: you have to trust that they are going to give

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Speaker 1: you honest advice and respect your decisions. You know, it

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be a paternalistic relationship. It has to be a conversation.

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Speaker 1: So I am very grateful that I have found someone

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Speaker 1: who calls me out on my bad behavior when I

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Speaker 1: have bad behavior, but she's also led me on a

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Speaker 1: path to feeling better. We started out with kind of

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Speaker 1: the very mildest of the medications. I had terrible side

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Speaker 1: effects of it, one being when I use the restroom

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Speaker 1: it looked like there was coffee from my yarn. It

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Speaker 1: was no longer ye yellow, it was brown, and it

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Speaker 1: was all because of the medication. So we have to

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Speaker 1: remember sometimes the treatments can be worse than the disease.

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Speaker 1: So I certainly had some side effects from the medications.

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Speaker 1: Over the years, I've gotten onto injections biologicals, which is

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Speaker 1: something I tried to put off for so long because

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Speaker 1: something that I didn't want to relinquish myself. Too. It

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Speaker 1: also makes you somewhat immunal compromised, and I just didn't

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Speaker 1: I was convinced to finally do it, and I'm glad

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Speaker 1: And so I was really dependent just on the medications

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Speaker 1: in the beginning. That's what I was doing. That was

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Speaker 1: my treatment plan. It was all about the METS just fine,

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Speaker 1: because it's one of those illnesses where you know, you

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Speaker 1: do need some of the western medicines to help you sometimes.

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Speaker 1: But then COVID hit. And while I continued to work

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Speaker 1: full time during COVID as a physician, I had three kids.

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Speaker 1: I also found myself playing with some natural stuff a

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Speaker 1: little bit more. One of my favorite things is a

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Speaker 1: glass of champagne. Yes, yes, yes, I know.

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Speaker 1: I'm a doctor. I have an autommune disease. I shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be saying I enjoy alcohol, But you know what, I've

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Speaker 1: always said, everything in moderation, and I enjoy champagne. That's

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Speaker 1: the reality. But I also knew that champagne has a

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Speaker 1: pretty high sugar content, maybe not as high as like

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Speaker 1: some of the wines. Certainly not as high as some

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Speaker 1: of your SODA's or your fruity sweetened other bever, but

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Speaker 1: it definitely has a higher sugar content. And so I

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Speaker 1: wanted to do what I can to decrease my sugar

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Speaker 1: consumption because sugar in the body, obviously it raises your

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Speaker 1: blood sugar, and having an elevated blood sugar causes inflammation. Well,

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Speaker 1: an autoimmune disease is exactly that is inflammation in your body,

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Speaker 1: and your body's going crazy because it's so inflamed. So

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Speaker 1: you have to decrease that inflammation to help control that disease.

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Speaker 1: So I decided I wanted to decrease my champagne intake.

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Speaker 1: And one of the things that I did was I

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Speaker 1: actually switched to drinking a blanco tequila, which I know

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Speaker 1: that sounds so funny, like you don't go from champagne

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Speaker 1: to tequila for health reasons, but the reality is you

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Speaker 1: don't have the sugar boosts the same way. So that

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Speaker 1: was the first thing that I did, was I really

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Speaker 1: tried to decrease my sugar consumption by switching to a

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Speaker 1: very clean, smooth, blanco tequila. Now I didn't add anything

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Speaker 1: But that was one thing that I did. But in

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Speaker 1: addition to that, I also started to dabble with some

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Speaker 1: natural herbs, which I'm not talking about natural herbs that

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Speaker 1: talking about the herbs that you buy like rosemary, lavender, turmeric, ginger,

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Speaker 1: making them into liquid tinctures, and then I started taking them,

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Speaker 1: and I found that by putting certain herbs together and

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Speaker 1: using them for various different things. You know, you can

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Speaker 1: use herbs to decrease your bodily inflammation, you can use

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Speaker 1: herbs to boost your immune system, grow your hair, your nails,

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Speaker 1: pain relief, verymenopausal symptoms. Who knew natural herbs could actually

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Speaker 1: help you with all of this? And some people say,

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Speaker 1: you know, natural stuff, it's a little bit. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's snake oil and all that stuff, and it's not real. Well,

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Speaker 1: let me tell you there's centuries of reports and data

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Speaker 1: know what, they don't have nearly the same side effects

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Speaker 1: as some of our Western medications. Nothing's affected my urine

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Speaker 1: my autoimmune disease. So, for me, it's been about decreasing

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Speaker 1: has helped keep my disease in check. Yes, I'm still on.

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Speaker 1: I'm still on injections. I have to be when I

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Speaker 1: like to do this little test. My rheumatologist hates me

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Speaker 1: Let's just see what happens well without fail every time

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Speaker 1: I flare. So I have relinquished myself to accept that

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Speaker 1: it is a combination between traditional Western techniques as well

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Speaker 1: overweights on the rise, and all of a sudden, all

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Speaker 1: of this illness is on the rise, and the question

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Speaker 1: So certainly the way that we are living is contributing

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Speaker 1: was concerned because going into COVID I was relatively immunocompromised.

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Speaker 1: bone marrow transplant, not even close. But there is still

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Speaker 1: course because I, quote unquote was one of those in

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Speaker 1: then bringing it home. My husband went to the hospital

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Speaker 1: getting COVID like everyone else did. It wasn't until like

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Speaker 1: pretty sick. I certainly got more sick than anybody else

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Speaker 1: just fine. And then the vaccine came out about six

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Speaker 1: weeks later, it became available for healthcare workers. I obviously

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Speaker 1: just recovered from COVID. I saw no utility to get

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Speaker 1: I have antibodies to this virus. It's a coronavirus. And

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Speaker 1: of course it was mandated from the hospitals. The hospital

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Speaker 1: And I tried to reason with people, saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure why we would vaccinate someone so recent

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Speaker 1: after an infection, especially if they have like an autoimmune disease,

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Speaker 1: because at that point their immune systems already been activated

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Speaker 1: by the virus. And like mine, I was sick with COVID.

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Speaker 1: My immune system was it was quite active during that time.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you, I had all the feelings, all

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Speaker 1: of the symptoms. So why did I want to go

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Speaker 3: individual And now we understand too that what causes you know,

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Speaker 3: you understand that certain type of you know, immunotherapists can

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Speaker 3: do that, a certain type of instantly resistance. We know

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Speaker 3: that we can do that. Certain age gender can do

436
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Speaker 3: that as well too. You know, we're getting you know,

437
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Speaker 3: we're being much more you know, like you know, smarter,

438
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Speaker 3: I guess, and we're able to identify this kind of

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Speaker 3: new pathologies and obviously treatment based on that.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting because you're right, we're smarter. We're able

441
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Speaker 1: to identify illness a little bit earlier, and so that's

442
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 1: you know, one of the criticisms of medicine is that, oh,

443
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: diseases aren't on the right rise, We're just diagnosing more,

444
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: and so it's really important to acknowledge the fact that, yes,

445
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Speaker 1: it's true we are able to diagnose more. We have

446
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: expanded diagnostic criterias which also allow for this increased prevalence.

447
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: But there's no denying that we have more disease. I mean,

448
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Speaker 1: you said something very interesting about COVID. I know I

449
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Speaker 1: want to talk more about it, and I know everyone

450
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Speaker 1: listening wants to. But pre COVID, we were already seeing

451
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Speaker 1: a rise in auto antibodies and the markers and autoimmune

452
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Speaker 1: disease in younger people. There was like a twenty twenty

453
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Speaker 1: NH study that kind of said that that was before

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Speaker 1: COVID type one diabetes, like you mentioned, ciliac, rheumatoid hashimodis, thyroiditis,

455
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Speaker 1: all have been increasing for the past few decades. So

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Speaker 1: you know, we have a lot of theories as to

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Speaker 1: why that is.

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Speaker 2: As well too.

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Speaker 3: We believe like this kind of microplastics they play a

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Speaker 3: big role as well too. But I thoroughly not only

461
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Speaker 3: on the diet on part of you know, the chemo exposures,

462
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Speaker 3: you know, fertilizer set et cetera. You know, American society

463
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 3: have traded to a much more sedentary lifestyle, much more.

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Speaker 2: Much more overweight. Our b and must have been going up.

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Speaker 2: You know, we have become.

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Speaker 3: Extremely instantly resistant, and that has been the key which

467
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Speaker 3: I believe it's the main problems that instantly resistance that

468
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Speaker 3: driven us to this kind of pendogenum and auto immune

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Speaker 3: issues right now.

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Speaker 1: As in a constant state of inflammation because the blood

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Speaker 1: sugars up and sugar causes inflammation, and that state of

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Speaker 1: inflammation is not good.

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 3: And this is just on my own you know, my

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Speaker 3: own practice that I see many patients that are for example,

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Speaker 3: in this new medications on the GLP ones et cetera,

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Speaker 3: they're actually they're becoming much more you know, they're losing weight,

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Speaker 3: and I seen.

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Speaker 2: A lot of them just.

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Speaker 1: Being GLP ones, being like the Wagovis and the Manjarro

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Speaker 1: and ozempic quote unquote everyone's taken.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, correct.

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Speaker 3: And not only that, we also be that the medications

484
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Speaker 3: response as well, to work on this, you know, different

485
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Speaker 3: in this population as well too. We saw that the

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Speaker 3: recent medications that we had he had a certain type

487
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Speaker 3: of effectiveness. But now that we've see you know, a

488
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Speaker 3: certain type of patients using this kind of treatment, they

489
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Speaker 3: are actually they're becoming less insolent resistance. We're actually seeing

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Speaker 3: a much more better response in this as well.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting, you know, heading into COVID, one of my

492
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Speaker 1: big concerns was what are we doing by shielding the

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Speaker 1: kids so much from all the pathogens? Like we couldn't

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Speaker 1: they didn't we didn't have anything. Flu wasn't circulating, colds

495
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: weren't circulating. Everyone was so afraid of COVID that putting

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Speaker 1: us in the state of isolation. I mean, don't get

497
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Speaker 1: me started. Obviously, the mental health component was that's a

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Speaker 1: whole another episode. But this, this whole hygiene phenomenon is

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Speaker 1: one of those things that that hygiene hype of. This

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Speaker 1: has to do with autoimmune diseases too. And do you

501
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Speaker 1: think that maybe that can you explain what that is

502
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Speaker 1: and like maybe how that also played a role.

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Speaker 3: You know, if you like think one of the reasons

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Speaker 3: to that point is not known nowadays.

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Speaker 2: You know, back in the days, we used to have

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Speaker 2: the chicken pox, you know, get to get in times.

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Speaker 3: You know, if you happen that, you know, Jimmy, you

508
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 3: know your neighbor used to get chicken pox. I want

509
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Speaker 3: to make sure that Alex go with GM so he

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Speaker 3: can get some chicken So, yeah, we did.

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Speaker 1: Not recommend chicken pox parties.

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Speaker 2: Why I that's how I used to do.

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Speaker 3: That's how he used to be the smart way back

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00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 3: then in how the image just to recognize this, right,

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Speaker 3: we stopped doing that.

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Speaker 2: And you know, we are into a state of uh.

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Speaker 4: You know, a septic you know, areas that we have

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Speaker 4: to we clean, you know, enhance everyone, you know, kids

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Speaker 4: and table and please don't do that, Please don't go on.

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Speaker 2: Make sure that you wear a mask, make sure you

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Speaker 2: don't What.

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Speaker 1: About the hand sanitizer that you see everyone putting on constantly.

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00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: I'm like that rubbing rubbing alcohol. That can't be good

524
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Speaker 1: for you. Like, get some drums around you.

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Speaker 2: You know, I will tell you this.

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Speaker 3: And again, you know, there's many smart people out there.

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Speaker 3: There are you know, working in r eune system and

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Speaker 3: INFECTIOUSY sees people and you know, look.

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Speaker 2: Like my heart goes through them. But when you are

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Speaker 2: in the trenches.

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Speaker 3: In my office or my practice is basically in the trenches,

532
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Speaker 3: we serve underserved population here in Central Florida. I was

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Speaker 3: able to see something that I was not able to see.

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Speaker 3: And I think that once this virus came through the

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Speaker 3: way that we handle ourselves, it was not consonant.

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Speaker 2: But what that we're telling us, I was.

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Speaker 3: Not seeing, you know, most of our patient population that

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Speaker 3: were wearing masks, and I noticed I was noticing right

539
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Speaker 3: away that they were not. You know, there was still

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Speaker 3: contracting you know, COVID as well. Then vaccine came through

541
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Speaker 3: in and we had some our issues. You know, we

542
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 3: thought it wouldn't work, but then I noticed in my

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Speaker 3: patients that it didn't work.

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Speaker 2: And I noticed that a way like.

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Speaker 1: Well do you think do you think so?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 1: First, of all, it's well documented people with autoimmune diseases

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Speaker 1: who got infected had the covid infection that could cause

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Speaker 1: a flare. That makes sense. Obviously, being infected with the

550
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Speaker 1: coronavirus causes inflammation and you could get a flare. But

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Speaker 1: do you think you know then come the vaccine. I

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Speaker 1: mean it's kind of twofold one. The vaccine itself was

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Speaker 1: kind of causing more of an inflammatory response than the

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Speaker 1: actual infection. So people with autommune diseases, did you see

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Speaker 1: that they were having more flares from the vaccine than

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Speaker 1: the actual infection? And then did you also see that

557
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Speaker 1: maybe the vaccine didn't work as well because maybe the

558
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Speaker 1: medications they were on or what do you think it was?

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Speaker 2: It was both ways.

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Speaker 3: First and foremost, most of this missions they are immune

561
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Speaker 3: suppress in a way, right, They're also even incompetent in

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Speaker 3: a way. So I didn't think they had a good

563
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 3: evening response, but also activated a very you know, erratic

564
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 3: immune system to start having symptoms I didn't have before,

565
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Speaker 3: and it was from the vaccine.

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Speaker 1: They had new symptoms as well too.

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Speaker 2: It was non consonant of what they usually have.

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Speaker 3: So for a patient, for example, if a psient only

569
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 3: always had inflammation or arthritis. Now they're starting having raynos,

570
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 3: starting having some rash there, sat hand, some dry dry mouth,

571
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 3: dry eye, which is secondary symptoms of these raumatic conditions

572
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 3: as well too.

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Speaker 1: It's like they're picking little they're picking symptoms from various

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Speaker 1: other diseases.

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Speaker 2: For example, this is my own experience.

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Speaker 3: I was completely healthy before, and I remember I received

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Speaker 3: my second shot shot of the COVID vaccine.

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Speaker 1: Do you have m RNA.

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Speaker 2: In two weeks after.

580
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Speaker 3: I'm a I'm a running so I like to you know,

581
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 3: train for you know, half marathons and marathons, and I

582
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 3: was running out. Remember it was around December that the

583
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 3: vaccine came around that and I started developing rainox myself.

584
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Speaker 1: Rainot's being where your blood vessels and your fingers when

585
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: it's cold, you have blood flow.

586
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Extremely, it was just nothing. It was just simple.

587
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Speaker 2: It was very very extreme, very quite evident.

588
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 3: It was a trifasic discoloration of my hands turning completely white,

589
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 3: then blueish and then then red.

590
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Speaker 2: And I didn't even have that before.

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Speaker 3: Another observation that I noticed that those symptoms that I

592
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 3: was having, they're weging off as well. So it seems

593
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Speaker 3: like a way hot my immune system is somehow resettling

594
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 3: to what it used to be before. So that's another

595
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,479
Speaker 3: observation that I have seen the same way with my patients,

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Speaker 3: those patients that I have here well documented post vaccination

597
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 3: that developed some sort of an erratic immune system then

598
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 3: noble or nuancet or subsequent you know symptoms, those symptoms

599
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 3: are somehow you know, start getting somehow more quiet right now,

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Speaker 3: which is you know, pretty quite interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So were you recommending then for these patients, because

602
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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of the you know, the colleges,

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Speaker 1: I think even rheumatology recommended obviously full vaccination but then boosters.

604
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Speaker 1: But we have so many documented published papers now showing

605
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Speaker 1: that the vaccine itself was not could potentially worsen existing

606
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: autommun disease, but also as you're mentioning, they could start fresh. Like,

607
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Speaker 1: how do you have that conversation with your patients about

608
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: there the formal recommendation of getting all these boosters, but

609
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Speaker 1: when it could potentially be causing a problem.

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Speaker 3: You wants a trimming challenging because the trenches that were

611
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Speaker 3: it was not consonant of what that may source that

612
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 3: were telling us, right, they were telling us that.

613
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 2: This is what you need to do.

614
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 3: You need to do these vaccinations and then you have

615
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 3: to boost yourself every so quite often. And I was

616
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Speaker 3: I was not seeing that you needed that first and foremost,

617
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Speaker 3: and too it was causing a lot of problems. I

618
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 3: was seeing that on my patients and my visions that

619
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 3: I had to make a medical decision. Say look, doc,

620
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Speaker 3: but they're telling me to do this. In TV, I

621
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 3: had to actually sit down with our patients completely frustrated

622
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 3: about it. That this is something that is between the

623
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Speaker 3: patient and the doctor is extreme. It's like going to confession.

624
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 3: You know, it's something that is between you and the priests.

625
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 3: Then you have to create that bond with a patient

626
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 3: and you have to you know, you have to create

627
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 3: that bond and confidence with the patient. And I used

628
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Speaker 3: to tell them what I used to see with my

629
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Speaker 3: patient and what they were going through. And I had

630
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Speaker 3: to deal with that because they were all lost, you know,

631
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 3: they were confused on what they were telling that on

632
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 3: one end and now what I was seeing on one end.

633
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Speaker 3: And for me, I continued my practic to say way

634
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Speaker 3: I thought it was the best way because that's the

635
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 3: way that I was seen on a daily basis.

636
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: So in my case, I stopped recommending the vaccine.

637
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 3: On my rheumatic patients way before it was announced because

638
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 3: I was seeing something that it was not.

639
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 2: It was not nice.

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00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 3: A lot of patients that were very upset because, for example,

641
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 3: we had a lot of patients with you know, rheumatic issues.

642
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: That they developed it.

643
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 3: They then they have the the immunotherapy after or immuno

644
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 3: globlins after, and that's somehow neutralized.

645
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: They want to clonal adding bodies that were.

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00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 5: Given to them so they can not only with you know,

647
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 5: post COVID vaccination symptoms, but also they came with major

648
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 5: flairs because they were treated in the hospital for COVID

649
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 5: and even know therapy or.

650
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 2: Imuno globbles in order to kind of counter like that.

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Speaker 2: And that was that was the problem, you know. And

652
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Speaker 2: also to look at this Nicoll.

653
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 3: The beauty of this how things we were able to

654
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 3: identify that these vaccinations that were causing some post traumatic

655
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: conditions or some post traumatic accpurs events is that we

656
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 3: eventually decided to use tasignu zoom map, which is an

657
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 3: interlooken six blocker for you know COVID, you know, cytokind release,

658
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 3: you know, which is a medication that we give for

659
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 3: our patients and rumor to our threads. And that's when

660
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 3: we kind of figured out. So I said, look, something

661
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 3: is wrong here and this vaccination must be completely carefully

662
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 3: decided between a doctor and the patient. Could it's something

663
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 3: that you just couldn't be just thrown out there. Hey,

664
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 3: everyone needs to do this. Kids, especially kids, kids that

665
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 3: had the best immune system ever.

666
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: Let them be what they have to be.

667
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 3: You know, like we talked about the hypothesis, you know,

668
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 3: the hygiene hypothesis. You know, we saw the kids, kids

669
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 3: that we're not you know, the mortality rating kids, it

670
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 3: was extremely, extremely low.

671
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: And vaccinating these kids starts seeing patients.

672
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 3: I don't see pediatric patients that I had to do

673
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 3: it because again, you know, patients that are underserved.

674
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 2: So they were coming to me pasions that were nine, thirteen.

675
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 3: Years old, fifteen years old with rahmatic conditions that they

676
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 3: never had before post vaccination.

677
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's really upsetting, kind of post COVID

678
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: to kind of learn all about that. But I certainly

679
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: think that while again there's been a rise in autoimmune

680
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: diseases pre COVID, certainly the covid infections as well as

681
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: the vaccines have contributed to that rise. So we've touched

682
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: on the hygiene hypothesis, the fact that we don't let

683
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 1: our kids eat dirt anymore that could potentially have increased

684
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: their risk of autommune diseases and infections. You've touched upon

685
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 1: the fact that we live in a world of microplastics,

686
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: and microplastics are inserting themselves into all parts of our bodies.

687
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: But what about what about gut health and the microbio

688
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: What is your take on that in it's linked autommune.

689
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: Disease, sobinume it.

690
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 3: It's a very hot topic the same way ass you know,

691
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 3: microplastics as well too and post covid vaccinations, et cetera.

692
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 2: Microbiome.

693
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 3: It's very very interesting and complex to the fact that

694
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 3: we're we're altering our own normal flora based on the

695
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 3: recent or basically the last twenty five years diet. We're

696
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 3: becoming much more instantly resistance. We're seeing a lot of

697
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 3: patients with certain type of what we call glutent you know,

698
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 3: sensitivities or some real full blown sedate disease. We're seeing

699
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 3: a lot of patients with inflammatory arthritis that they're coming through,

700
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 3: you know, problems that they have that they start of overgrowth.

701
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: We believe in some sort of a growth overgrowth.

702
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 3: Of bacteria and that kind of like genetical code is start,

703
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 3: you know, kind of changing and creating this kind of

704
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 3: cascade of inflammatory response. So the microbiome or the or

705
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 3: the gut health is extremely important also in rahmatic conditions.

706
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 2: So we're learning that more often now.

707
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: So for people who are listening who maybe they have

708
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: an autom disease or they think that they might have one,

709
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: you know, what are some early indicators or what should

710
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: they do if they're kind of having some symptoms and

711
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: they're not really sure what they are.

712
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 3: I think that we always look, you know, if I

713
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 3: would to be their physicians, right of this big population

714
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 3: that comes to you as a dog in eyes to

715
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 3: feel pretty good. I have any gout issues, but lately

716
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 3: I am feeling this way. I'm feeling a little bloated.

717
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 3: I cannot tolerate it any specific type of food. But

718
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 3: every time I eat this kind of food or whatever,

719
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 3: I'm getting this X y Z symptoms. I'm getting more fatigue.

720
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 3: We're seeing a lot of more chronic fatigue. You know,

721
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 3: population insomnia, more inflamma or whatever. Why it's based on

722
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 3: process period as well too. So my recommendations is that

723
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,959
Speaker 3: we still don't have the technology to I really identify

724
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 3: this kind of triggers in terms of what triggers any fly,

725
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 3: my chort or thritis orright not or in conditions are

726
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 3: based on what they eat.

727
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 2: We tell. What I tell to my patients is that look,

728
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 2: you know, your body warned than anyone else. So if

729
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 2: you happen that you eat, you know.

730
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 3: For example, I had a patient that doctor, every time

731
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 3: I eat white rice, I get my knuckles that get

732
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 3: completely inflamed. And for me, I'm trying to figure it

733
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 3: out exactly what is the main you know, path of

734
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 3: physiology on this.

735
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,439
Speaker 2: It was like a white rice, why would you happen

736
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: over here? I basically tendure that to them. I constant nutritionist.

737
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 3: Obviously, I do the whole you know panel in terms

738
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 3: of fire issues and other gun autoimmune blood work as

739
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 3: well too, and then I refer to the gastrienteologiest as well.

740
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: So if someone's starting out kind of having some symptoms,

741
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: they're vague, they don't really know what's going on, do

742
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: you recommend putting together like a food diary for like

743
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: a few weeks or a month, just to see if

744
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: it's triggered by anything I do.

745
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 2: I do.

746
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 3: I am actually a fan of fasting, so I do

747
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 3: a little bit of a fasting usually. You know, you

748
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 3: know sixty eighteen six on occasion and televisions who identified

749
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 3: exactly what what are they're eating, what are they're eating

750
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 3: differently this time, what are they're doing that they were

751
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 3: not doing before? And when did they notice those symptoms?

752
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 3: So history is extremely important in this population to identify

753
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 3: those kind.

754
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 2: Of you know, trigger factors.

755
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, rarely when autoimmune patients present, I imagine is it

756
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: very text white, textbook black and white. It's kind of

757
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: like an enigma and you get to be the little

758
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: puzzle puzzle put together a person trying to figure it

759
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: all out.

760
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 2: There's not that anymore.

761
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 3: It's it's impressive, like I have my residence, I'm my

762
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 3: medical students with me, and my medical students are always

763
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 3: you know, expecting, oh doctor, right, you know you have

764
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 3: that positive with positive A and a ssas straggin. But

765
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 3: the reality is not The reality they may have is

766
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 3: subtle A and A test, you know, and they may

767
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 3: have some stick of manifestations from dry and dry mouth.

768
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 2: And they still could have some short ones.

769
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 3: Uh.

770
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 2: So we're seeing a lot.

771
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 3: Of inflammatory arthritis and not necessarily will give you a

772
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 3: positive blood work. Uh.

773
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're getting smarter, like like like like I just mentioned.

774
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 3: Uh, and we're able to identify certain type of you know,

775
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 3: auto any bodies that we're able to recognize, and you know,

776
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: through different you know labs, they're you know, providing us

777
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 3: you know, to health these patients.

778
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 2: But I will say six out of ten patients you

779
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: may have a negative blood work. We've seen a.

780
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 3: Lot of sponding arthritis patients, a lot of what people

781
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 3: we call SERA negative.

782
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

783
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: Hi, I'm one of those those sero negative, sero negative

784
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: spondal orthrop but the waste waste basket term patients. We

785
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 1: don't fit in a box.

786
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 3: But it's real, it's real, and we're we we're you know,

787
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 3: I'm doing I'm doing some political trials over here.

788
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 2: Responding authritis. We're working on a lot of signals central

789
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 2: Lugan's you know twenty three.

790
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,720
Speaker 3: We're actually we're having possibly we're going through the process

791
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 3: right now, getting a phase one. We're working with a

792
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 3: cart therapy so or natural killer in Karta Carti.

793
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: Just for anybody listening is an amazing therapy that we've

794
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: used in pediatric cancers. But I mean it certainly is

795
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: a good starting point for a lot of things.

796
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 3: Yes, so we're seeing some evidence already they can work

797
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 3: incredibly on type of arthritis such as you know, lupus,

798
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 3: nefritas or certain type of fascularity.

799
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 2: So that's going to be we're going to be conducting

800
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: to us Studdi's pretty soon over here in phase one.

801
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: Well, I mean we've come a long way in terms

802
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: of treatment for these patients, and thankfully there's still people

803
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: like you doing a lot of research. Alex. Some takeaway

804
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: for those who either have an autommune disease or who

805
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: don't but they want to do everything they can to

806
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: try and prevent it. If you have just you know,

807
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: like three, what you should do, how you should live

808
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: your life? What you or what's your advice for people?

809
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 2: I think the number one, you know advice for me's

810
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 2: lifestyle changes.

811
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 3: If you think that you know you're Sedentarya, I think

812
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 3: it's important for anyone that may feel that they need

813
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 3: to kind.

814
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: Of reset everything.

815
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 3: Lifestyle changes such as a certain type and much more

816
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 3: healthy diet. It is extremely important low ser basically and

817
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 3: aerobic exercises. We're experience, you know, I basically advising every

818
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 3: one of my patients to do a lot of aerobic

819
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 3: or low aerobic exercises and want to try to implement.

820
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: Give it an example, what's an aerobic exercise?

821
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 3: So what I try to explain to my patients is

822
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 3: that in order for us to decrease the insulin resistance,

823
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 3: you not only just the diet, but we have to

824
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 3: improve what we call the lower aerobic you know, or

825
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 3: Zone two exercises.

826
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 2: And basically what that means is that loans low or.

827
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 3: Low aerobic exercise or zone to exercises induces your mitochondro

828
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 3: replication and mitochondra replications. Most of it the energy is

829
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 3: fatty acids or fatty oxidation. And what happens when you

830
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 3: do that, when you do that cardiovascular you decrease your

831
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 3: metabolically to improve dramatically, and you're decreasing insulin resistance. And

832
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 3: I strongly believe by decreasing insulin resistance, those general symptoms

833
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 3: of inflammatory response or auto immune response, if we want

834
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 3: to call it out way. Anything that is inflammatory, it's

835
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 3: not immune so I encourage that from our patients. So

836
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 3: I set them certain type of workouts that we lead

837
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 3: to that kind of like low or zone two or

838
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 3: low aerobic exercise about twenty to thirty five minutes at

839
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 3: least four times or five times a day.

840
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we wait four or five times

841
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: a day or right, right?

842
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 2: Wow? Get doesn't mean I'm like, oh my.

843
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: God, I mean I think you're right. I mean, you

844
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: don't have to be a gym rat. You don't have

845
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: to be like the most fitness person, but you do

846
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: have to get your body moving a little bit more.

847
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: And as you're saying, we have to keep our sugars

848
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: down because sugar causes inflammation, and inflammation causes autoimmune disease.

849
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 2: Incredible, and that's I think people they don't they haven't

850
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 2: realized yet.

851
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 3: But autommute and systemic inflammatory process is the main you know,

852
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 3: you know, culporative almost every condition nowadays.

853
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: Everything well, isn't it truth? So by what we eat,

854
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: by if we take in less sugar or you know,

855
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: less ultra processed foods and like the processed breads and

856
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: sugar sugary sweet drinks, that decreases the sugar intake. But

857
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: the exercise actually upregulates some of the receptors on ourselves

858
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: so that we are able to use our insulin more efficiently.

859
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: Right, well, obviously instantly insular resistances and.

860
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 3: You should and how did we actually help that insulin

861
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 3: resistant to become you know, or resensitizers. There's a lot

862
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 3: of studies out there like if we do a little

863
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 3: bit of an insulin pulse.

864
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 2: Therapy, became resensitizos receptors again. And we've seen a lot

865
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 2: of study on that.

866
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 3: H It seems to be good when you have to

867
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 3: reset that body by a doing you know, lifestyle changes

868
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 3: like fasting, it could be a great form of resensitation

869
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Speaker 3: as well too, as well as zone to aerobic or

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Speaker 3: lower aerobic you know exercises.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Well, you heard it here, folks. If you want to

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Speaker 1: resensitize your body the insulin, you have to start your

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Speaker 1: fasting and you got to get exercising, all right. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much, doctor Alexander Torres, rheumatologists, colleague and friend

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Speaker 1: of mine. We really appreciate you coming on wellness unmasked

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Speaker 1: and giving us all of your expert advice. It's great

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Speaker 1: seeing you more coming up on wellness and masked with

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Speaker 1: doctor Nicole Sapphire. Well, that was a lot to unpack

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Speaker 1: from doctor Alexander Torres, my friend and colleague. I certainly

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Speaker 1: learned a lot from him, and it is validating to

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Speaker 1: hear an expert say, yes, it is not just, you know,

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Speaker 1: intrinsic to us. It's not that we're just diagnosing more

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Speaker 1: autoimmune disease. We are seeing more autoimmune disease. And we

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Speaker 1: can point fingers all we want, and there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of finger pointing to do, but it boils down

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Speaker 1: to our lifestyle, the sedentary way we're living. We're not

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I wrote all about it in my book Make America

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Speaker 1: Healthy Again from twenty twenty. I talked about the foods

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Speaker 1: And as doctor Torres just told us, insulin is not

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Speaker 1: working in our body because of this, and therefore we

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Speaker 1: have baseline higher blood sugars than we should. And when

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Speaker 1: you have too much sugar in the blood, it's going

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Speaker 1: to cause inflammation. Inflammation leads to bad things, one of

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Speaker 1: which are autoimmune diseases. And autoimmune diseases. While they may

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Speaker 1: They can also be deadly, and so we have to

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Speaker 1: do everything we possibly can to decrease the inflammation in

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Speaker 1: our body. You know, for me, it is getting my

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Speaker 1: body moving, trying to reduce the all of the crap

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Speaker 1: that we're eating, the process foods. As we know, I

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Speaker 1: love to incorporate natural herbs into my diet. I use

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Speaker 1: ginger and tumoric on a daily basis to get that

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Speaker 1: inflammation down in my body. And I also use lavender

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Speaker 1: to relax me. And I do everything I can to

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Speaker 1: get a good night's sleep because your sleep is so important.

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Speaker 1: And that's a wrap on this episode of Wellness on Mass.

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Speaker 1: I wanted you to learn a little bit about myself,

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Speaker 1: so you know why I'm on this wellness journey with you.

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Speaker 1: Just remember your health isn't a trend, it's our foundation.

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Speaker 1: If today's conversation is something that resonated with you, I

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Speaker 1: ask you please share it with someone you care about.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to Wellness on Mass on America's number

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Speaker 1: one podcast network, iHeart. Follow Wellness on Mass with doctor

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Speaker 1: Nicole Saffire and start listening on the free iHeartRadio app.

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