1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Hey, lady, is doctor dom here. If you like this 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: show and you want to make your own, let me 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: tell you about the free platform Anchor. It's a creation 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: tool that allows you to record and edit your podcast 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: right from your phone or computer. You can add songs 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: from Spotify and create any type of content that you 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: are looking for. Anchor will distribute it all for you 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: so it can be heard on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more. 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: Download the free Anchor app or go to anchor dot 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: fm to get started. 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 2: On this week's episode of Cultivating her Space. 12 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: In those moments when you're trying to decide do our 13 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: walk away from this and truly walk away and stay away, 14 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: it is about figuring out your why and reassessing like, 15 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: is this truly my passion? Is this thing truly taking 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: me to where I feel I need to be in life? 17 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: And if the answer is yes, then even if it's 18 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: hard right now, then we stay with it. But if 19 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: the answer is no, then that's when we know, Okay, 20 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: maybe it's time that I do walk away from this. 21 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: Today's episode is sure to provide you with motivation, inspiration, 22 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: or a fresh perspective. If you have any AHA moments 23 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: or appreciate anything from this episode. Please leave us a 24 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,919 Speaker 2: review to let us know we're on the right track. Also, 25 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: we release episodes every Friday, so be sure to subscribe 26 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: on iTunes and visit cultivatingherspace dot com to access our 27 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 2: exclusive after show and other bonus content from the Patreon tab. 28 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cultivating her Space, a podcast dedicated to uplifting 29 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: women like you. We're your hosts, Doctor Dominique Brussard, a 30 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: college professor and psychologist. 31 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 3: And Terry Lomax, a techie and motivational speaker. In a 32 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 3: world where black women are often misrepresented and misunderstood, please 33 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: join us as we initiate authentic conversations on everything from 34 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 3: five roids to fake friends, and create a safe space 35 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: where black women can just be. 36 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: Hey, lady, it's Terry here from Cultivating her Space. Are 37 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: you tired of working hard for your money? Do you 38 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: want your business to run smoothly when you're out of office? 39 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: If you want to learn how to automate your business 40 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: cash flow and increase your impact and influence, join me 41 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 2: from our free workshop at Brand with Terry dot Com. Again, 42 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: it's Brand with Terry dot com. My name is Bell Teubri. 43 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: I hope to see you there, lady. 44 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 1: Okay, our quote of the day, Lady, if you've been 45 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: rocking with us for a little bit or have been 46 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: binging on some of our episodes, then our quote of 47 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: the day will definitely sound really familiar to you. Although 48 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: my plans may change, I will still stay committed to 49 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: my purpose. That was our season eight mantra, and we 50 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: are now embarking on our season nine. 51 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: So t. 52 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: That mantra. Yes, it was for season eight, but I 53 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: feel it is perfect for our conversation today. 54 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 3: Yes, I would agree. I'm just kind of looking at 55 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 3: the mantra like, just kind of taking it in, and 56 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 3: I definitely agree with you. I think it's a powerful 57 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 3: mantra because I think sometimes when plans change, we often 58 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 3: think that, you know, it will kind of question the journey, like, oh, wait, 59 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 3: in the right space, did I make a mistake? Was 60 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:03,839 Speaker 3: I supposed to do this right? 61 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 4: Like? 62 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 3: And I think as long as we remember that as 63 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: long as you're committed to your purpose, it doesn't matter 64 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 3: what title you have, It doesn't matter what the business 65 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 3: structure may look like now, like, as long as you're 66 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 3: committed to your purpose, you're still on track. And so 67 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: I think sometimes especially if we never covering control freak. 68 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: When things change up, it's nice to know that I 69 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 3: can still be in alignment even though it may look 70 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 3: different than I thought it was gonna look. So yes, 71 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 3: I would say this is perfect for our episode for 72 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 3: today because we have some big announcements to make. 73 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: Oh yes, some huge, huge announcements, and so let's just 74 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: hop to it. Let's just talk about this journey. 75 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, it has been a journey. 76 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 3: So the day that this episode airs, it is our 77 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 3: two year anniversary, which is so crazy to think that, 78 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, we've been releasing episodes every Friday for 79 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 3: two years. 80 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 4: Lady, thank you for being on the. 81 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 3: Journey with us, whether you have been listen to episodes, 82 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 3: whether you've been there from the beginning, or this is 83 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 3: your first episode. I mean, if it's your first episode, 84 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 3: you've got to go back to the archives because we 85 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 3: have a lot of content for you. But today we 86 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 3: just want to talk a bit about you know, what 87 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: to do or how to know when it's time to 88 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 3: walk away and share some of our experiences and then 89 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 3: also let you know how you can keep in touch 90 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 3: with us as we stay goodbye and close this chapter 91 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 3: and open a new chapter. 92 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 4: So that's kind of where we're going today. 93 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 3: So you've got to stay tuned until the end to 94 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 3: get the tea and figure out what's next. 95 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 4: But I guess I want. 96 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 3: To dive into, you know, giving up, Like if you 97 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 3: think about a moment in your life where you've given 98 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: up on something, or you've closed a chapter that you 99 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 3: maybe thought that you'd have opened for a long period 100 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 3: of time, Like what comes up for you, lady? I know, 101 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 3: for me personally, down when I think about this question, 102 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 3: I think about the blog that I had before we 103 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 3: started the podcast. And I had that blog for I 104 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 3: mean I started years ago. I had it for like 105 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 3: seven years, and when we started the podcast, I was 106 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 3: trying to maintain both and I was like, oh, this 107 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 3: is tough to try to, you know, show up for 108 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 3: us and do our work and then do the blog. 109 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 3: And there was a part of me that was like 110 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 3: afraid of failure, Like I was afraid of closing that chapter, 111 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: afraid of you know what it would look like, Afraid 112 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 3: of the fact that, wait, I started this journey. What 113 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 3: if people you know, who watched me, they're like, why 114 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 3: are you retiring it? Why are you closing it down? 115 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 3: And then thinking about the whole journey. But then the 116 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: thing I guess that encouraged me was, well, what is 117 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 3: my purpose? 118 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 4: Right? 119 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 3: When I think about my purpose and I think about 120 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 3: the ways in which I show up in the world 121 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,239 Speaker 3: and what we've built with the podcast, it felt good 122 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 3: to close that chapter because there was part of me, 123 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 3: the part that was like, well, I don't want to 124 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 3: be a quitter. I want to just keep pressing forward. Okay, 125 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 3: I could do that, but like, again, what is the purpose? 126 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 3: And am I just doing it just to do it 127 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 3: just to say that I have a blog? 128 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? 129 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 3: And so I think sometimes we just commit to something 130 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 3: or just stay in something because we don't want people 131 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 3: to see that we transitioned, or we don't want to 132 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 3: look like a failure. When it's like there, it's okay 133 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 3: sometimes to close the chapter and move into a new chapter. 134 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 3: And so, because I was basically doing the same thing 135 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 3: on each platform, I was like, Okay, the podcast has 136 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 3: taken off, we have a mission to uplift black women. 137 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 3: I think it's okay to close this chapter and focus 138 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 3: fully so I can show up fully for the podcast. 139 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 3: So that's like an example of something that I guess 140 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 3: you could technically say either gave up on or close 141 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 3: the chapter on or retired or stopped or quit. And 142 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 3: it doesn't have to be a bad thing. 143 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: No, it doesn't. And so you know, I'm curious about 144 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: how long did it take, like from like when that 145 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: thought first set in of like maybe it's time to 146 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: let this go to when you actually took the step 147 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,239 Speaker 1: to say to finalize and say this is done. 148 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 3: Yes, in fairness, I feel like I thought about there 149 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 3: were oftentimes when I had the blog, why I like 150 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 3: thought about quitting and I was just like what am 151 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 3: I doing? Like why am I doing this again? So 152 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: we started the podcast in January, I believe, and then 153 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 3: I stopped blogging in November. So it was a low 154 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 3: period of time when I actually made the official announcement. 155 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 3: But I definitely went back and forth with myself because 156 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 3: I was like, wait, like should I do this? And 157 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 3: thought about all the memories and thought about like how 158 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: do I do it in a classy way where it's 159 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 3: not just like f y'all, I'm out. 160 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 5: You know what I mean? 161 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 3: Like how do I do it and create this memory? 162 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 3: But no, it was definitely there were definitely many thoughts 163 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 3: time and I kind of went back and forth with 164 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 3: myself on is this really what I want to do? 165 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 4: You know? So there was a long period. 166 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: Of time and so I asked that question because I 167 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: think that like the key is that oftentimes it's not 168 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: an overnight process, right of like, Okay, so this is 169 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 1: something a chapter that I need to close and then 170 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: I wake up the next morning and like, bet let 171 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: me take these next five steps to shut this thing down. 172 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: And it can truly take a long time, like for you, 173 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: like it sounds like like almost a year to say, Okay, 174 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: here's what I'm doing to like fully be okay with 175 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: walking away from. 176 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 3: This and also domb I feel like laying the pros 177 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 3: and cons. And then also there was definitely, I want 178 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 3: to say, some type of like lull in the journey 179 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 3: where it wasn't as fun as it was when I 180 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 3: first started, Like the same passion, excitement and zeal that 181 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 3: I had initially that kind of dwindled. And that's where 182 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: I had to ask myself, why are you actually doing this? 183 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 3: Are you doing it to say your face that people 184 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 3: just you know what I mean, like, what is the 185 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 3: why behind it? So I think that's a big part. 186 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 3: What about you domits or anything in your life where 187 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 3: you're like, you know what, I closed this chapter. I 188 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 3: didn't finish this thing, because I think that comes up 189 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 3: a lot with goals. People are like me, I know 190 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 3: I should stop, and I think there's a lot of 191 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 3: messaging out there. I was looking at quotes for our 192 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 3: preparation and there were things that said like, if you. 193 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 4: Give up, it means you didn't want it. 194 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 3: I'm like, well, there are sometimes there are great lessons 195 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 3: when you quit, you know, sometimes that's part of the journey. 196 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 4: And so what about you? 197 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: So well, I want to go back to that quote 198 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: that you just mentioned of like people saying like, okay, 199 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: well if you quit, that means you didn't want it. 200 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: In all fairness, I think that that quote is bullshit. 201 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,599 Speaker 1: Right if I would just be I mean, if I 202 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: would just be honest, I feel like that quote is 203 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: bullshit because I think what that does is put blame 204 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: on people and makes people feel guilty when they to say, okay, well, 205 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: if you quit, that means you didn't want it. It's 206 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: like implying that not wanting it is a bad thing, 207 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: when in to me, sometimes the acknowledgement or the awareness 208 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: said you don't want something and you're walking away from it, 209 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: it's actually putting you closer in alignment with your true purpose, 210 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: what with what you were really passionate about. And so 211 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think that quitting is as bad as 212 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: people sometimes try to make it out to be. 213 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 3: Yes, I think you're right, And I mean I think 214 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 3: about the language I learned when I was growing up. 215 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 3: One of my mentors used to say, you have to 216 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 3: have the spirit of a finisher. So I remember looking 217 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 3: at books and I used to always think, like, if 218 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 3: you open a book, you have to finish it. And 219 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 3: for a long time I did that, and then there 220 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 3: was a point where I was like, well, is that most. 221 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 4: Efficient for me? 222 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 3: Some people may still believe that, and that's fine, But 223 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 3: like now I may you know, skim certain parts, or 224 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 3: I may like take out, depending on what type of 225 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 3: book it is, too, I may like go through and 226 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 3: highlight it for the sake of time, because time is valuable. Right, 227 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 3: So I think about this idea of you know, it's 228 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 3: okay to change our mind. You know, it's okay for 229 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 3: us to pivot. It's okay for you to be in 230 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 3: a relationship. For instance, I know where I talking about relationships. 231 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 3: But I mean, this is a place where people, I think, 232 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 3: put a lot of pressure and shame. I know, I've 233 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 3: had this experience in my life where you're in a 234 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 3: relationship and maybe you make a promise, maybe you you 235 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 3: know you're into it, and then something happened, something shifts, 236 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 3: and you realize. I know for me, I realized years ago, oh, 237 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 3: this relationship that I'm in this toxic and so I'm 238 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 3: going to change my mind. I'm going to get out 239 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 3: of this relationship. But then the other person may try 240 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 3: to manipulate you and get you back in. Well, you 241 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 3: said you loved me, you said this and this and this, okay, 242 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 3: and I changed my motherfucking mind exactly. 243 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 4: That's okay. 244 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 1: That part, yes, And I think too that yes, I 245 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: think you're absolutely right that this does apply to relationships 246 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: because as you were, you know, as we were propping 247 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: for this episode and now I was thinking about things 248 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: for myself where I may have like decided to walk 249 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: away from it. Relationships are That's one category where I 250 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: can think of instances where I've been like, this isn't 251 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: working for me anymore, and it is time to walk away, 252 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: even though this is not how I envisioned this going. 253 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: You know, I don't think that any of us when 254 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: we start a relationship think about it ending right. You 255 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: start a relationship because the intent is that the relationship 256 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: is gonna work out, that this is gonna be your 257 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: forever ever, and sometimes that's not what happens. And so 258 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: that's an instance where I think it's okay to walk away. 259 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: I think about like my licensing exam that we've talked 260 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: about on previous episode, there were multiple times where I 261 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: had that thought of like, Okay, I'm walking away, and 262 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: legit was like holler back, y'all, I'm out, and then 263 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 1: would come back to it, which is part of why 264 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: I think it has taken so it took so long 265 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: for me to get to that point of passing because 266 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: there are multiple points where I was like, now I'm done. 267 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: But I also think that it goes like why I 268 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: didn't give up, why I kept coming back, was about 269 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: my why. And so I think that like in those 270 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: moments when you're trying to decide do I walk away 271 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: from this and truly walk away and stay away, it 272 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: is about figuring out your why and reassessing like is 273 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: this truly my passion? Is this thing truly taking me 274 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: to where I feel I need to be in life. 275 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: And if the answer is yes, then even if it's 276 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: hard right now, then we stay with it. But if 277 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: the answer is no, then that's when we know, okay, 278 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: maybe it's time that I do walk away from this. 279 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 3: Yep, I cannot agree more. Down, I could not agree more. 280 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 3: And I feel like we should just dive into our 281 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 3: five signs to let you know when it's time to 282 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 3: walk away, because contrary to popular belief, it is okay 283 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 3: to walk away and to put sometimes yes yes. 284 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: And you know, I think also throughout this conversation so far, 285 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: we have definitely been kind of diving into those signs. 286 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: So I'll start us off with the first sign. You're 287 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: always exhausted and no longer have interest in it him 288 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: or her, So to me, like I think about like 289 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: you're in a job that you are no longer passionate about, right, 290 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: and every morning you wake up exhausted, Like you wake 291 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: up exhausted, like you get your normal amount of sleep, 292 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: but you still wake up exhausted, and you're like you're 293 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: starting your day off like like just not with it, 294 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: not having the energy for it. And you know, I 295 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: think that there's a distinction there between Okay, I'm exhausted 296 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: at the end of the day from all the work 297 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: I put in, and I'm waking up exhausted. I'm going 298 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: into it with a lack of energy, with a lack 299 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: of interest. And then that also applies to that can 300 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: also apply to a relationship. M if just the thought 301 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: of being with that person, or you roll over in 302 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: the morning you look at that person and you're like 303 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: just exhausted with their presence, like exactly like this, dude, 304 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: what like really, this is this is what I'm doing, 305 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: Then that's a sign that maybe it is time to 306 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: walk away. 307 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 3: I do want to add there, Donald, I will say 308 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 3: that I think that there are definitely phases of a 309 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 3: journey that you're not supposed to quit where you will 310 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 3: feel exhausted as well, because I know there are plenty 311 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 3: of days where as much. 312 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 4: As we love you ladies, as much as we love 313 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 4: the podcast, there are days where we be tired, right yes, 314 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 4: and it's. 315 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 3: Like, oh my gosh, whether it's like oh, we have 316 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 3: to edit this or do this thing or prepare for this, 317 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 3: but what we do come to realize and this happens, 318 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 3: you know, basically every time, dom and I'm a little 319 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 3: fearful about the day when it doesn't happen, but like 320 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 3: we come together and then we create something magical or 321 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 3: we get this magical feeling or sometimes like even today 322 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 3: with us recording, you know, we got up early and 323 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 3: it was like whow okay, I'm tired. But once we 324 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 3: remember our why and we dive into whatever we're doing, 325 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 3: it's like you get this sort of surge of energy. 326 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 3: But there will be times in a journey when you 327 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 3: do get exhausted, but that don't mean quit, right, So 328 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 3: it's like and really understanding yourself and like maybe even 329 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 3: if you're journaling or you're like jotting down, Okay, how 330 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 3: often am I feeling this way? 331 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? You're feeling that way every 332 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 4: damn day. 333 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 3: We may have to look into it and think, okay, 334 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 3: maybe this is a sign, right, but then don't confuse 335 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 3: that with just general exhaustion, because life is a lot 336 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 3: right now. 337 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 5: Okay, exactly exactly, And I like what you said about 338 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 5: and because I think this will probably take us into 339 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 5: our next tip of like yeah, the why, right, So, 340 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 5: like you're feeling exhausted, but you remember your why and 341 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 5: that gets you going. 342 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 3: Yes, oh okay number two, And the only reason you 343 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 3: haven't quit is because you're worried about what other people 344 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 3: will think. And that makes me think about the example 345 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 3: I share it with the blog about people. 346 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 4: Being like, well, what you quit? Why'd you give up? 347 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 3: And having to sort of, you know, entertain or respond 348 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 3: to those conversations. 349 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 2: But this, I know it's not. 350 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 3: A relationship episode, but I feel like this is the 351 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 3: real one when it comes to relationships. Yeah, where you're like, oh, 352 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 3: I don't want to I've been before you we were 353 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 3: like I don't want to look like a failure. You know, 354 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 3: I don't want to have to face people or I 355 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 3: told you so whatever it might be, this can definitely 356 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 3: come up. But the thing about this is that people 357 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 3: are always gonna have something to think, you know, They're 358 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 3: always going to think something, They're always gonna have something 359 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 3: to say, And so I think that when it comes 360 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 3: to this, I know one thing I've worked on for 361 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 3: a long time is freeing myself from the opinions of people. 362 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 4: So I'll give you an example. 363 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Okay, now I remember I don't know 364 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 3: if I talked about it on the podcast. I think 365 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 3: it was maybe in the Patreon Wisdom Wednesday. But I 366 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 3: got a puppy. You remember when we got the puppy. 367 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: Yes, I remember that. 368 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 3: I missed him so much. But we got our little puppy. 369 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 3: And this was in the midst of trying to get pregnant, 370 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 3: and we literally had the puppy for ten days and 371 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 3: my husband and I were sleep deprived. 372 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 4: We got the dog. 373 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 3: To be an emotional support animal for me, but we 374 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 3: didn't do enough research. We researched cute dogs to get 375 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 3: you know, easy dogs, all that, but we didn't realize 376 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 3: that we should not have got a puppy. We should 377 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 3: have got a trained dog that was already ready to 378 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 3: kind of coexist with us. So this little cute little 379 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 3: doggie kept us up all damn night. He was just 380 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 3: a shit and then being all over the place. It 381 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 3: was just like, oh my god, I did I never 382 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 3: had a puppy. I didn't know what to expect, and 383 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: so in the midst of working trying to get pregnant 384 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 3: and then managing him, it was a lot. It felt 385 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 3: like having a new born with no maternity leave. And 386 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 3: so we had it. We met and we were like, Okay, 387 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 3: what do we want to do, and so we were 388 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 3: literally looking at all of our options and I was 389 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 3: just like, like, I've already posted pictures of this dog. 390 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 4: I hadn't told people about the door. 391 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 3: I can't just give the dog back because the breeder 392 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 3: allowed us to, you know, a certain period of time, 393 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 3: a grace period to get the dog back. I was like, 394 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 3: that was the biggest thing for me, is like, what 395 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:45,239 Speaker 3: will I look like. 396 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 4: I will look like an. 397 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 3: Evil person who just gives puppies back. Like I was 398 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 3: so concerned about what my colleagues would say, what my 399 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 3: friends would say, what other people would say. And I 400 00:20:55,520 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 3: almost decided to be miserable for the sake of appearance 401 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 3: and for a perception. I actually worked through this in 402 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 3: therapy and I was like, let me tell you, I 403 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 3: was so honest. I was like, you know what, I 404 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 3: was fitting the live like, oh, my husband's allergic, so 405 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 3: that's why we had to do it. 406 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 4: And then I was like, no, let me be road myself, 407 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 4: like what is the reason. 408 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 3: And it was bad timing, and so somebody was talking 409 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 3: shit and they were like. 410 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 4: Oh, she gives dogs back. 411 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 3: Oh you know whatever, It's fine because I'm at peace 412 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:23,959 Speaker 3: with the decision. 413 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 4: I chose. 414 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 3: So I think that example that really reminds me of 415 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 3: this second tip right here, because that was such a 416 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 3: stressful time. 417 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 1: Yes, I remember that, and I remember being like I 418 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 1: was like, girl, you know, people give dogs back all 419 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: the time, but I also you know, not having owned 420 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: a dog since I was like a kid, but like 421 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: I just also knew like that piece that you were 422 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 1: pointing out about, like being concerned about, well, what are 423 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: people going to think about me if I do this right? 424 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: Am I not fit to be like a dog parent 425 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: because I gave this particular all back. And it's like, 426 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we have to truly 427 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: do what feels good for us and know that what's 428 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: happening in our home is what's happening in our home, 429 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: and no one truly knows one hundred percent what's happening 430 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: in our home but the people in our home. So 431 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: no one truly knows what the full circumstances were because 432 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: we can always say like, well, I mean getting up 433 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: and taking care of a dog at you know, that's 434 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: part of the process, true, but maybe that's not a 435 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: healthy part from my process. And so yeah, I'm totally 436 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: with you on like, you know what like we have 437 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: to release worrying about what other people may think or 438 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: what other people may say, because exactly, like you pointed out, 439 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 1: people talk no matter what you do, right, exactly like 440 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: everybody is in conversation about like things that people are 441 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: doing and whether it be good, bad, ugly anywhere in between. 442 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: And so the reality is, yes, we have to focus 443 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: on what is truly making us happy and aligning with 444 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: our purpose and not be focused, not be doing it 445 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: because of what other people will sink or what other 446 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: people will say. 447 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 3: That's right. I agree with you. Now, I just looked 448 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 3: at this third tip and I'm like, oh my gosh, 449 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 3: that is the deep one. Go ahead, down, go ahead, yeah. 450 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: Way, So our tip number three, now, you know, tip 451 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: to we you know, we're talking about what other people think, 452 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: but this one when the only reason you are sticking 453 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: with it is because you don't know who you are 454 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: without it or without that person. Woo, that's a heavy one. 455 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 3: It is who are you without that relationship? Who are 456 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 3: you without that job title? Who are you without that business? 457 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 3: That thing that you want to let go of? But 458 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 3: because it defines you? 459 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 4: Damn, damn, damn. 460 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: You know, I like to tell folks that like, I 461 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: like to compare relationships in your life like a cupcake. 462 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: Your life should be like a cupcake with no frosting, 463 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: just a plain cupcake. So let's take red velvet love 464 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: me a good red velvet cupcake, right, no frosting. That 465 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: shit is a bomb. It is so damn good. That's 466 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: what my life is like, all right? That on its own, 467 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: life is great, life is delicious. Okay, I add in 468 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 1: a relationship. That relationship is the frosting, that icing, that 469 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: oh so sweet, just right, butter cream frosting. Adding that 470 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: butter cream frosting, it just takes it legit over the top. Right. 471 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: But again, if I don't have that frosting, I'm still 472 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: gonna eat that red velvet cupcake and it's still a 473 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: red velvet cupcake. Right. My relationship, it shouldn't be the opposite. 474 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: My relationship shouldn't be the cupcake and my life is 475 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: the frosting. My relationship should be the frosting, so that 476 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: I know who I am on my own, and adding 477 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: a relationship is literally icing on the cake. 478 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 3: I freaking the love the way you explain that, don 479 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 3: I just want to add in First of all, Dan, 480 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 3: you got me thinking about red velvet cupcakes. 481 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 4: And then I'm like, oh, a lemon pound cake. 482 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 3: Oh, because and now you got to think about the 483 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 3: nice and lemon icing and or vanilla icing, and so 484 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 3: this is this is distracting, but it's very good because 485 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 3: I get what you're going. 486 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 4: But I'm like, I need to I need to order 487 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 4: where Oh my gosh. Okay, but no, that was so powerful. 488 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 3: Don You are a spot on and I think that, 489 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 3: you know, even as I go into like motherhood, I 490 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 3: think about that too, like yes, my child, that I'm 491 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 3: here to raise this child, but like my role as 492 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 3: a mom, that's not the cupcake, you know what I mean, 493 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 3: Like that's the icing on top. Even in marriage, I 494 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 3: believe it's the same way, like we should be two individuals, 495 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 3: two whole people coming together and yes, you know you're married, 496 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 3: you love one another, but outside of that, you should 497 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 3: still be a person. You should still have being an 498 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 3: individual with your own you know, interest and skills, and you. 499 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 4: Should be okay. 500 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 3: And my think is having lost a lot of people 501 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 3: in life as well, I think that sometimes when we 502 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 3: become so dependent in that way on anything, when you 503 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 3: lose that thing. We talked about this with I believe 504 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 3: to Shonda on one of our episodes about you know 505 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 3: what is it renting your title? 506 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: Yes, renting your title and owning your character? 507 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, renting your title, owning your character. It's like 508 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 3: you get so dependent on these different roles or these 509 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 3: different things in life that when something gets pulled away, 510 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 3: then there's an identity crisis, right, And I seeing identity 511 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 3: crises are bad because I've definitely gone through my own. 512 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 3: But it's just important to note. So I love the 513 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 3: way that you explain that. I love it spot. 514 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 1: On, thank you, thank you. I need to trademark that. 515 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: We will talk about trademarking in a little bit, but 516 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: I need to trademark yes. 517 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 4: Yes, you do go. 518 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 3: And that takes us to our fourth tip here, which 519 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 3: is you aren't able to visualize a positive outcome. 520 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: So if we think about it right, like we have 521 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: talked about visualizing, and like visualizations, we've talked about manifestation 522 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: in multiple episodes, particularly in eight and season seven, and lady, 523 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: if you tune in, we will have a couple of 524 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 1: episodes this season and season nine about visualization. If you 525 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,959 Speaker 1: are thinking about this thing that you are part of, 526 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: this goal or even this relationship, if you can no 527 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: longer see anything positive coming from it, so you know, 528 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: thinking about let's go back to using an example of 529 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: your blog. Right, if you are waking up and as 530 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: you think about your blog, you are no longer envisioning 531 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: anything positive. When you sit and you try to think 532 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: about what am I doing here and nothing positive comes 533 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: to mind, that's a sign to kind of let it go. Right. 534 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: If you're in a relationship and you're unable to visualize 535 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: anything positive with that person, that's a sign that it 536 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: may be time to let that relationship go. 537 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 4: That makes sense. 538 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 3: I think I would definitely believe with you there, and 539 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,959 Speaker 3: I think that there's part of me to cyc Well, 540 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 3: I think I was thinking about this in a different way, 541 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 3: but I think you hit the nail on the head 542 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 3: with that, so I don't have it going to add. 543 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 4: I think that was great. 544 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 3: I think we can close out with our last and 545 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 3: final tip, which is something we've already talked about, Yeah, 546 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 3: which is your why, right. 547 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 4: Like leaning into why am I doing what I do. 548 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 3: And getting clear on that, because I think that if 549 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 3: you can understand the why, that'll let you know if 550 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,719 Speaker 3: it's something that you need to like, continue to pursue 551 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 3: the goal even in the midst of exhaustion, right, Or 552 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 3: if you're like, you know what, I don't really know 553 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 3: why I'm doing this. 554 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm doing it for. 555 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 3: Other people, right, I'm doing it because of society or this. 556 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 3: So I think leaning into your why? 557 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 4: Right? Why did you get started in the first place? 558 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 4: Why are you doing this? What is the purpose? Right? 559 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 3: What is the end goal? We didn't clear on some 560 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 3: of those questions. Can let you know anything to add there? 561 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 2: Down? 562 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 3: Before we do a quick little recap of our five 563 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 3: signs and then dive into our. 564 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: Yes, I don't have anything to add because I think 565 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: I want to save it, or okay, when we dive 566 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: into more information on our why and where we're going next. 567 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 3: Okay, that sounds good, ladies, So real quick recap we 568 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 3: have Number one, they're always exhausted and no longer have 569 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 3: interest in it him or her or whoever it might be. 570 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,239 Speaker 3: And that is the first sign to let you know 571 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 3: when it's time to walk away. 572 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 4: Number two when. 573 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: The only reason you haven't quit is because you are 574 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: worried about what other people may think. 575 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 3: Number three, when the only reason you're sticking with it 576 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 3: is because you don't know who you are. 577 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 4: Without it, for them. 578 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: Number four, you aren't able to visualize a positive outcome. 579 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 3: And number five is leaning to your why, and that 580 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 3: takes us into us saying goodbye to the her Space podcast. 581 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 4: Lady. I know you're probably like, girl, what what what 582 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 4: are you doing? Y'all? 583 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: Wait, we're talking about We're talking about like knowing your why, 584 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: and y'all are shutting down. So y'all saying, y'all don't 585 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: know you why anymore? Just so we're here, we do 586 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: know our why? Yes, see what's our why? 587 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 4: Well? 588 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 3: This is literally the purpose of the podcast is to 589 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 3: create a space where we can have uplifting conversations for 590 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 3: the black woman. 591 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 4: That is it. It's that simple. That is our why. 592 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 3: That is why we do what we do. And it's 593 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 3: been such a rewarding journey. We've learned so much. But 594 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 3: if we're honest with ourselves, I would say that although 595 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 3: we've made such a great impact, right, which has been 596 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 3: amazing to have a global podcast with more than one 597 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 3: million downloads and people from all over the world that 598 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 3: are tuned in, Lady, thank you for that, we have 599 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 3: been doing the bare minimum because we've been working full time. 600 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 3: We've had our own life to manage. This is something 601 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 3: we didn't really we didn't really know what was going 602 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 3: to happen with this podcast. We were just like, Okay, 603 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 3: let's do this thing. Let's see what happens. And I 604 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 3: think we said in our first episode, who knows, two 605 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 3: years from now, we might just stop doing it. It 606 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 3: may not fulfill its purpose any longer. And so throughout 607 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 3: this journey, as we think about what we want to 608 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 3: do moving forward, we realize that there is an up 609 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 3: leveling that needs to take place. 610 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, so we both. 611 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 3: Have been doing things for our own brands to elevate ourselves. 612 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 3: We are now looking at the podcast in a more 613 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 3: strategic way and we're thinking about expansion, we're thinking about 614 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 3: up leveling, and throughout that process we've learned some lessons, 615 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 3: and one is that we will not be able to 616 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 3: trademark right and have ownership because y'all know, in our 617 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 3: community especially, ownership is a must. 618 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 4: Ownership is key. 619 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 3: We need to be owning our brands, our businesses, our 620 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 3: homes land. Okay, like we need to be having ownership 621 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 3: right because historically we've been robbed of that right for 622 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 3: so many different reasons. But when you think about the 623 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 3: trademark process. There were many conflicts that came up when 624 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 3: we met with our attorney around trademarking the Hearspace podcast, 625 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 3: and so we had to make a decision on okay. 626 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 4: With that in mind. 627 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 3: Yes, it was definitely a bittersweet moment of like, non, 628 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 3: We've invested so much into our imagery, into the social 629 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 3: media handles, the platform, all that, the website, but we 630 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 3: had to make a decision to pivot. And sometimes it 631 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 3: can be an emotional experience when you have to pivot 632 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 3: after you've invested so much. And so when we went 633 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 3: back to the drawing. 634 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 4: Board, we decided that you know what, the podcast, this 635 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,479 Speaker 4: what we're doing is still very much connected to our 636 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 4: con our Why what we're doing, we're transitioning, and it's 637 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 4: going to be a minor transition. 638 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 3: So we're not born nowhere. We're just changing things up 639 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 3: a little bit. And so we want to welcome you 640 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 3: to cultivating her Space. Yes, all right, yes, her space. 641 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: Yes, let that roll off your tongue a few times. 642 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: Cultivating her Space, Cultivating healing, empowerment and resilience. 643 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:37,919 Speaker 5: Yes. 644 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: And so lady, when you hear that name, you know, 645 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: for us, like Terry was saying, you know, if we're 646 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: going to be honest, it was heartbreaking to get the 647 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 1: news that we weren't going to be able to trademark 648 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: her space because, as you've heard us say before, this 649 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: podcast is our baby and we've been co parenting her 650 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: space for two years and for us to hear sorry, ladies, 651 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 1: you can't use that name, there was a moment of heartbreak, 652 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: of a little bit of devastation, a little bit of 653 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 1: grief and loss, right because we are attached. But you know, 654 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 1: like we've talked about in previous in our episode on 655 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: like ambiguous grief and loss, we let ourselves feel the 656 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: feelings yep. And then we said, okay, how do we 657 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 1: lean into this and use this as an opportunity, take 658 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:49,720 Speaker 1: this as an opportunity to up level? Yes, and part 659 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: of that up leveling means changing the name. But to me, 660 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like a drastic chain. It feels like growth. 661 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 4: Yes, for graduating, and. 662 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: I think that that is a beautiful thing. I think 663 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: that that is what we want in life, right, what 664 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: we are constantly asking of ourselves is to be able 665 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: to grow. And while change and transition can be hard, 666 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 1: sometimes I think that it's a normal part of life 667 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: and help we fast forward two years from now and 668 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: cultivating her Space is going to be rolling off our 669 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: tones with such ease, and it's going to have such 670 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: name recognition that people may forget that we were originally 671 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: called her Space. 672 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 3: Yes that's don you hit the nail on the head 673 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 3: and hopefulay that this can be a source of inspiration 674 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,399 Speaker 3: for you. Like even though we sort of hit that 675 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 3: set back because we didn't know what we didn't know, 676 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 3: we just jumped in, we got started. We didn't let 677 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 3: you know the small things I get or not small things, 678 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 3: but we didn't let the I want to say, ignorance. 679 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 4: There's nothing wrong with. 680 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 3: Being ingrid when you're just starting out, so you don't know. 681 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 3: We didn't let that stop us. We continue to leave 682 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 3: on this journey. But when we did learn that, we 683 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 3: were like, okay, we have to pivot. And so what 684 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 3: we're gonna do for you, lady. We're actually gonna bring 685 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 3: our trademark attorney, who is an amazing black woman from 686 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 3: that in the Bay Area. We're gonna bring rookie on 687 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 3: and we're gonna have her talk about what you need 688 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 3: to know for your own brand okay, and so to 689 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 3: give you an idea of when we say, like, what 690 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 3: does it mean to cultivate? Right, you think about the growth, 691 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 3: you think about raising, you think about really honing in, 692 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 3: like dom said on our acronym for her, the healing, 693 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 3: the empowerment, the resilience. So that means it's going to 694 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 3: require more from us, but also more from you. 695 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 4: Ladies. 696 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 3: If you're not already connected with us on social media, 697 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 3: you definitely want to stay connected. We should have a 698 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,800 Speaker 3: handle at her Space podcast, but also Cultivating her Space 699 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 3: will be our new handle. Do you want to connect 700 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:05,359 Speaker 3: with us there? 701 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 4: Domini? Okay, we have put some money down all right 702 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 4: in the podcast. 703 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 3: Okay, lady, we don't put our money where our mouth 704 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 3: is because we believe in the vision. I didn't quit 705 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 3: my full time job to pursue full time entrepreneurship, okay. 706 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 3: And so we are all about really taking this to 707 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 3: the next level. And so we really want to thank 708 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 3: you for being on this journey with us, and we 709 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 3: want you to just stay tuned for what's next, because 710 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 3: it's about to get real. 711 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 4: We are cultivating her Space. 712 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, hey lady, it's doctor dom here from the 713 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 1: Cultivating her Space podcast. Do you have a burning question 714 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 1: you're dying to get feedback on. Do you want an 715 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:53,439 Speaker 1: unbiased perspective on a situation you're facing. If so, visit 716 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: cultivatinghrspace dot com and click ask doctor Dom under the 717 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 1: start here option. Every Tuesday, I'll choose a few questions 718 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:08,240 Speaker 1: and answer them at random. Thanks for joining us today. 719 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: Please note that our show may contain conversations about self help, advice, 720 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: self empowerment, and mental health, but is by no means 721 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: meant to be a substitute for an ongoing formal relationship 722 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 1: with a trained mental health provider. If you are someone 723 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: you know is in need of mental health care, please 724 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: visit a Therapy for Black Girls directory Psychology today or 725 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: contact your insurance provider. 726 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 3: If you liked what you heard and want to keep 727 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 3: the conversation going, visit our website, cultivatingherspace dot com and 728 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,720 Speaker 3: be sure to click the Patreon tab to get access 729 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 3: to video content, bonuses, and our weekly after show. And 730 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 3: before we meet again, repeat after me, I'm aligned with 731 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 3: my inevitable outcome. 732 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: We'll see you next week, Lady