WEBVTT - What's a Rune? (S1 E12, “Double Date”) 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:17.520 I am all in. Oh, thank you. I am all 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:22.159 in with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. All right, 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:26.040 hevery everybody, welcome back. This is Scott Patterson and this 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:30.000 is the I Am All In podcast I Heart Radio. 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:34.440 What an episode? My god? Was this episode fun? Or what? 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:38.120 We're gonna bring in Riley now? And we're going to 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:43.840 do synopsis of Double Date? So twelve, go ahead, Roley. 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:48.960 This is episode twelve, Double Date Air date, January one. Lane, 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:52.000 convinced that Dean's friend is the boy for her, convinces 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:55.280 Rory to double date with her. Laura. Laie reluctantly accepts 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:59.880 a double blind date with Jackson, Sukie and Jackson's cousin. Rude. 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:05.760 You asked out? You asked out? I did twice twice, 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:10.120 and and not denied twice but interrupted twice. What it 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:15.280 was like asking out? Datus interrupt us, Mrs Mrs Kim 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:19.920 comes storming in looking for Lane, like throwing a mom 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:22.880 fit right in the middle of my asking out, Laurel. Right, 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:26.320 it just it just I just kept getting jammed up. Oh, 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:28.000 we listen to it? Why don't we listen to that? 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:37.000 Let's go ahead, you know, maybe sometime we could again 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:47.400 Eastern playing it again, you know, maybe sometime we could moments. 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:53.680 Do you remember it? I don't, and I really like 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:56.920 and I don't like watching myself, but I like watching 0:01:56.920 --> 0:02:00.480 this stuff because it's so underplayed, and I really like it. 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.920 It's it's small, you know, the acting is small, so 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:07.600 it can be big, and it's just I really liked it. Um. 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:12.000 I enjoyed that and her look when after waitingnute at 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:14.920 the end he does it again and he's successful. Right 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:17.520 at the end of it, he's successful. She's wearing that 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:19.880 she's she has a ponytail, and she's wearing that top, 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:23.839 that cool looking top that she had on. And yeah, 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:25.400 that time, it was more like, oh, we'll do it 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:28.960 again sometimes right right, right right. It was more casual. 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:31.800 But didn't she look so good when she when she 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:36.919 looked at me as I was going back behind the counter. 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:40.480 You mean tall, tall Lorea Lie, tall tall Lorea Lie 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.160 with her big ears, right tall, her size and what 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:47.399 size shoe do you wear? So we're gonna get into 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:50.800 all this. We're gonna get into uh uh double date. 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:53.800 What an episode, guys. This was. This was just a 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:56.680 laugh riot from beginning to end. It could have been 0:02:56.720 --> 0:03:01.360 called double double date. Yes, could have been all, you know, 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:06.840 the attack of Lane's mom. I had such higher hopes 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:10.440 for Lane's date, and then that didn't turn out how 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:15.760 I hoped it would. Yeah, she tried, She tried, Lane tried. 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:18.320 It was a valiant effort to try to get some 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:23.400 kind of intelligence out of this boy. Um, there was 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:28.800 no intelligence to be had out of this young boy, 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:33.600 Dean's friend. I guess he's a bro, he's a good 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:35.920 dude and all that, but man, I tell you he's 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:40.160 not yet turned into dating material. Yeah, he wasn't the 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:45.400 he wasn't the word smith. Lane was hoping he's no Dean. 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:47.720 Let me tell you. Watching this episode, I was like, 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:51.720 Dean is such a babe, like kissing her and doing 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:53.440 all that kind of stuff. I was like, if I 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:56.800 was Rory, I would be all about Dean, which she is. 0:03:56.920 --> 0:04:02.640 But major hot points for in this episode. He was, 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:07.320 you know, quite adamant that he wanted to chew on 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:11.640 her face when he wanted to do it. He didn't 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:14.760 want to listen, he didn't want to do favors. He 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:19.560 just wanted to mc daddy, mcdaddy, mcdaddy, let's break down, 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:23.440 Mrs Kim because what do we think of Mrs Kim? 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:27.119 Is she way too strict? Is she just look looking 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:31.160 out for her daughter's best interest? Is she just out 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:34.760 of her mind? Mrs Kim is so strict. But it 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:37.920 puts Rory in this predicament that we've seen a couple 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:41.039 of times where she has to lie to do what 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:44.400 Lane wants, you know, or Lane is always hiding out 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:50.440 at their house or uh. In this case, even Rory's 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:54.159 in trouble because she lied, which makes lore Lie upset. 0:04:55.000 --> 0:05:00.800 So it is sort of a situation ship. What was 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:06.720 the lie? She she lied? Date? Right? We right, she 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:08.360 couldn't go on a date. It's supposed to be at 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:11.160 Rory's house, and she's at the movies with the boy 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:14.080 and she's not supposed to be and and and and 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:16.800 Rory didn't tell Laura Liae that Lane was going to 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:19.720 be on the date either yeah, or she didn't tell 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:23.400 her that Lane wasn't allowed to go. Yeah, because Rory 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:26.000 told Laura Lee, I'm going We're going to the movies 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:31.000 with Dean, but didn't fail to or didn't say that, Hey, 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:34.440 Mrs Kim doesn't know this play right? And then you 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:36.600 know that puts Laura in a bad spot because now 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:39.560 Mrs Kim can't trust her going forward. And I don't 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:42.480 think Laura Lee will lie as a mom to another mom. 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:47.839 She won't do it. Yeah, she definitely has mom code. 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:51.800 So I think it's there are challenging elements for Rory 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:56.640 and Lane because they want to do things and they 0:05:57.200 --> 0:05:58.880 you know, it goes back to even the candy bar. 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:04.279 Oh that's mine. They've a lion to Mrs Kim since uh, 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:07.919 episode two or whatever episode that was, But that was 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:11.240 that when Laura I went to see Mrs Kim. That 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:14.919 was a powerful scene. It was a beautifully acted scene 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:20.480 by Emily Corona. Wow. Yes, And it's it could be 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:25.000 hurtful to Laurel that there's judgment. Even though Laura LA 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:29.240 has proven herself to be in a really excellent mother, 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:34.200 Mrs Kim still has judgment, right, she's blaming Laureala for 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:36.159 that when it's not her faults. And Laura LA shows 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:39.960 up and now Emily mrs Kim sees her as like, 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:43.520 you're a screw up and Laura I admits that, yeah, 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:47.200 I screwed up and I'll never be what the mom? That? 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:50.680 What did she say? She sails? She said something so 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:54.440 self deprecated. She goes and very nasty, but she handled 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:57.680 it beautifully. Mrs Kim said, I hope I don't want 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:02.240 Lane to turn out like you, And she said, you 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:04.240 know what, I don't want Lane to turn out like 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:10.080 me either, And what a what a moment? My god? Um, 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:11.760 and I don't want and I don't want Rory to 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:14.880 turn out like me either. Again, Yeah, Mrs Kim has 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:20.400 the best of intentions, she just has a first way. Well, 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:24.680 I mean, you know, trust is a big deal. I 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:27.920 mean it's it's a big deal. I think it's also 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:30.960 a respect thing, at least with you know, mother daughter. 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:33.440 With my family, it's the same thing. You know. It's 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:36.720 like if your dad gives you these rules, you follow them. 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:39.760 And Lane wasn't doing that. So I think Mrs Kim 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:43.080 saw red when she found out that not only was 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:46.400 her daughter lying, but she also wasn't obeying her and 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:51.480 respecting her. Very interesting dynamic and what a powerful actress 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:56.680 coming into Luke's diner, breaking up my moment, my moment? 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:59.640 Where is my moment? Here we go? You know, maybe 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:06.960 sometime we could. I wonder what would have happened had 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:10.040 Mrs Kim not just like barged into the diner. Would 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:16.920 you have gotten your kiss you years earlier? No? I 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:19.440 think she delayed it a little bit, not much. Who 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:28.200 knows if if things were to go stay on his plans, Um, yeah, 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:32.560 would have happened probably that year, that season. But yeah, 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:36.640 life got in the way for four years. We weren't 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:40.600 ready for it. Wait, what card game was that you 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:45.880 guys were playing? Five card draw? Is that coker? But 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:48.880 you let her break the rules but I did. I 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:54.760 gave her four extra and if you want four cards, 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:56.400 you have to show your ace. The only way you 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:58.400 can get four cards is to have an ace. And 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:00.520 I didn't require that. She showed me right, So I 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:02.720 was just like, really, just like you, just you just 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:07.880 really like her? Yeah, I like her scene I did. 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:09.480 I liked when he pulled when he pulled out the 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:11.920 deck of cards. I think that was cool because I mean, 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:14.600 when I grew up playing cards, That's what we do 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:16.520 on these coasts. We played a lot of cards when 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:18.880 our kids. We gambled when our kids. It was unbelievable. 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:22.640 Do we feel that Jackson and Suki are on their 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:28.280 way now? That was some of the best acted stuff 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:32.960 I've seen yet. Those two together were magic. That was hysterical, 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:36.200 and the moment that laurelized just like not she doesn't 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:37.720 know what's going on. She's just trying to figure out 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:41.000 why these two are being so awkward and and tentative 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:45.360 with one another. It was hysterical. Was that a great scene? Oh? Sure, no, 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:48.440 you can lie to No, thank you? Right? It was 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:52.400 completely different behavior with their normal and everyone can relate 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:55.000 because Suki did throw it out there and then they 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.840 never get the day and she doesn't want to be 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:00.880 the one to say it again. Yeah, but come on, 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:03.320 he's gotta he's got to grow a pair and and 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:06.920 call him like, come on, I agree? What the heck 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:09.720 was that all about? Like she should like be be 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:12.559 a modern woman and you call him no, you want 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:16.520 to go out sometime? Yeah? What about Suki's palm hair 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:23.720 upd favorite? It was so like promsk in her dress, 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:27.120 she looks I loved, I loved everything about the whole 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:30.000 double day. How can you not love Melissa McCarthy, I mean, 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:34.960 what what a performance? What what a just incredibly likable 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:41.720 actress person, so vulnerable, so sweet, you can't not root 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:45.119 for her? I mean it's it's impossible. It's humanly impossible 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:49.480 not to root for her. Um, just just great stuff, 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:55.760 really great stuff. Um, what else can and there was 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:58.199 there was no Emily in this at all? Was there? 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:01.600 I noticed there was no only no clown pillow either. 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:04.600 It was very It was less stressful an episode, even 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:08.800 with the Max Parlick stuff and going after Laurela that way. 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:11.760 It was it just seemed like, you know, Emily's character 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:17.400 does introduce an element of stress, um, very entertaining where 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:21.040 he needed um, but the tension really ratchets up when 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:24.480 she comes on screen. That was missing in this episode. 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:28.600 There was far less tension um because I think what 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:32.760 what what Mrs Kim was doing was real and powerful, 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:35.760 but sort of more comedic, you know what I'm saying. 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:39.800 It was more um, Oh, it was just funnier stuff. 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:49.520 You know. Maybe sometimes we could Oh my god, did 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:57.600 you hear the accent so much? You know, maybe some 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:08.760 time we could sometime you had an accent? What is 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:14.280 that accent? Gilmore? Yeah, that's the Gilmore. I was trying 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:16.040 to find the character, you know, in the beginning of 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:26.319 the series, and uh, you know, sometime you good, it's 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:34.280 how you're doing. Maybe sometime God, you guys, I would 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:38.240 so shook when it happened. I think I didn't remember 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:41.080 from the other five times I've seen this episode, and 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:42.880 then all of a sudden, I'm like, oh my god, 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:46.000 like alone, I'm talking to the TV. Oh my god. 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:51.959 Oh he's asked around twice. I mean, I was going 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:53.600 to the hoop. I don't know if I was going 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:57.200 to hoop very strong, but I was going to the hoop. Yes, 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:01.079 I agree with it. I got foul. Mrs Kim fouled 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:04.560 me and she found I couldn't get to the hope. 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:08.160 Maybe it wasn't strong, but it was real. It was real, Yeah, 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:11.880 but I think it was strong. It was like, I mean, 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:16.920 let's compare the methodology of a Max mctina versus a Luke. 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:20.520 I mean, what do you guys prefer. Yeah, Max is 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:23.240 coming in hot, and it's coming too hot, like just 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:25.640 like he's going to get called for an offensive foul. 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:28.760 He's coming too strong to the hoop. You know, we 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:31.920 called that quick out of the shoots, so you never 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:36.520 want to trust too quick out of the shoots. It's like, oh, 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:41.000 dial it back. Yeah, he came in too hot, and 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:44.880 that's why it's if you want a girl like Laurela, 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:47.760 you better be a little crafty about it. You better 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:50.720 be kind of you know, just subtle, under the radar 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:53.720 when she least expect it, like boom. You know what 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:58.640 I mean? Can I give an off the wall comparison? Different, different, 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:03.720 but yet the same Carrie and Mr Big because she 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:06.800 did not come quick out of the shoots. And it's like, 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:14.160 that's why it worked for all those years. Oh, get yourself. 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:19.000 I know what it is. I've seen episodes. I like it, 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:22.120 but I just never watched it from beginning. Then it's 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.640 just that dance. It's that dance that you and Lorela 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:28.800 are going to do, and it's going to last because 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:32.920 you're not just like in our face. I didn't realize 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:35.160 I was on her this quick. I'm trying to close 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:38.440 that deal started in episode two when she asked if 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:43.640 you were cute? That was the biggest dead giveaway of anything. 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:46.560 Do you think Luke is cute? I'll never forget it. 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.160 I got a full bucket of golf balls, have only 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:50.600 hit a couple of balls. I got a lot of 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:54.360 balls left. It's a really unfortunate way of putting it. 0:14:54.400 --> 0:15:00.200 I just heard myself say that, really, really, what what 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:03.360 is a rune. What is a ruin? The name my 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:05.480 parents gave me, that's what it is. No, No, what 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:08.680 is it rune? How did they name you Ruin? What 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:12.320 is it ruin? You see it? Do? At the counter? 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:17.960 She's like says up about what's a room? What's a rune? God? 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:21.560 I mean, did she just want to smack him? Or 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:23.880 what I mean? Did he? He's so deserved it. When 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:26.560 she wanted to powder her nose, he said to her, 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:28.040 he under his breath, he looked at her, goes he 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:30.160 better get a lot of powder. Gonna need a lot 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:35.880 of powder for that. No, no, he Danielle caught something 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:40.120 amazing that I did not notice that she can reveal 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:43.360 to the world. What what is this? When they were 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:50.600 at dinner, did you see rune beheading the butter and 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.760 then and then in another shot and then another shot. 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:58.000 The swan was still still had a head. So he 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:01.080 that was a little against us, as he Yeah, he's 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:08.440 beheading the swans butter. Swans. Fancy. I had to rewind 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:10.720 it like five times because it's like he did not 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.720 just do that. Now, what is your gut that he 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:15.880 was directed to do that? Or he thought of it? 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:19.960 Because we will ask him. We will ask him. I 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:25.040 think I'm gonna put my money on that's his choice. 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:29.600 I think he came up with that. If he did, 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:33.840 he is a genius. Yes, there's, there's and worthy of 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.320 the award he won. He won an Independent Spirit Award 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:39.160 for Best Supporting Mail on drug Store Cowboy by the Way, 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:43.400 Little fact toy. Yes, he's just he's he's he's quite 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:46.200 and he was in blow with Johnny Depp. He's the 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:48.200 guy that gave him up at the end of the film. 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:51.840 He was in Ferrispieler's Day Off and Can't Buy Me Love. Yeah, 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:53.640 I know that, but I see he's also in blow 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:59.280 with Johnny Depp. He's so I love Max Perlck's so icon. 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:05.960 He's that guy gonna I need more, I need more? 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:07.920 What what do you want me to do? It's like, 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:10.399 you know, you only make one flight, a couple of 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:16.880 flights a week. We need more, We need more. What 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:23.080 he's on Today's part way? Max Perlock is coming on today? Alright, alright, 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:25.320 let's get Max on right now. Can't wait to talk 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:30.720 to him. Let's get him on. Run Run buddy, Hello, 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:37.480 hey budd, what's happening? Where are you I'm at home 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:42.159 in Okay, cool by the piano. There you go, Buddy, 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:46.479 Nice to see you, Max Perlick, Ladies and Gentlemen. Here 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:48.960 he is. He appeared as Ruining a total of three episodes. 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:53.439 He's an American film television actor's career began when he 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:55.960 dropped out of high school to pursue a small part 0:17:56.080 --> 0:18:00.639 in Ferris Bueller's Day Off, and then appeared and Can't 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:05.800 Buy Me Love? Playing Close eight drug Store Cowboy eighty nine. 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:08.960 He won the Independent Spirit Award for Best Supporting Mail 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:15.040 and Drugs Store Cowboy. Wow Um. And also it doesn't 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:18.000 mention here, but one of my favorite movies Blow Uh 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:20.879 you were You were also in Blow opposite Johnny Depp, 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:23.520 and I have some questions for you about that on 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:27.080 television here and Gilmore Girls Charmed. My name is Earl Terminator, 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:32.600 Sarah Connor Chronicles, Luscious Jackson, Max, Welcome to I Am 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:37.360 All In podcast. How you doing pal? Huh? Thank you? 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:44.320 So so you've appeared in in some iconic projects, uh 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:47.240 like Ferris bure Loose, Day Off and Charms. How how 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:50.080 did you get tell us about the process of getting 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:58.560 the role of Roon on Gilmore Ruin was put to me. Uh, 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:05.600 and I was really excited about the professionals and the 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:12.879 skill sets that they had. Uh Palladino uh uh Lauren 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:19.200 uh uh ed ed Edward Herman is it Edward Herman? 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:26.600 I mean amazing casting, amazing production staff, writing staff. They 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:31.040 had a system that was just locked in and all 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:33.840 you had to do is basically, in my opinion, to 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:37.040 show up and be able to make it sing. And 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:39.720 if you had to have that cadence, you know, with 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:43.920 their with the material was just if you understood any 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:48.680 kind of any kind of tone, if you had any 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:52.640 kind of musical inclinations, you did well with with their 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:57.600 writing because it was really just about the tempo. You know. Yeah, 0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:00.280 it felt it felt like an Iambic almost, you know, 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:03.440 there was there definitely was a rhythm to it. Absolutely, 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:07.879 um yeah, you know, and you know I've been on 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:10.399 you know, I did a sign Feld that I was 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:13.400 very organized and buttoned down. I did All and Will 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:15.280 and Grace. I did some other stuff before I got 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:18.680 Gilmore and it was all really smooth, sailing, great cruise. 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:22.359 Did Gilmore more of the same. But then after after 0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:24.760 I did Gilmore, I did a couple of series and 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:28.080 it was just kind of a mess, you know. It 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:31.240 was I really missed that whole Gilmore crew and how 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:34.520 how cracked they were, you know, and how they really 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:36.520 had it or it was kubricky and you know, it's 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:39.840 like Stanley Kubrick was known for his organization and that 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:41.760 that's what you need to bring to bear on a 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:44.280 on a TV set. So tell us a little bit 0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:46.880 about your first day on set. What you can remember 0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:51.960 being a first day on set. I remember being nervous 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:59.880 um because I felt, you know, it was high bar two. 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:03.119 I was always just nervous because there was a lot 0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:06.439 of people, uh that You're always used to seeing the 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:12.199 positions of the the different guys crew, but when it 0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:17.800 comes to being in touch with the material, I always 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:21.520 just felt like I needed to really be it focused 0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:24.520 and I just wanted to to just watch as much 0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:30.240 as possible and absorb their process, the workings for the 0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:33.520 cast and how you guys were working to just kind 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:36.200 of tap into that so that I could do my 0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:39.920 my due diligence. And I was just trying to mesh 0:21:39.960 --> 0:21:42.199 with you know, get a get a good feel, you know, 0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:45.000 and it's always it's like you're the new kid in 0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:48.560 school because you're you know, your guests are you know 0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:52.360 that feeling that you kind of I built my resume 0:21:52.840 --> 0:21:56.960 in the nineties on guest starring on big sitcoms, and yeah, 0:21:56.960 --> 0:22:00.880 it's nerve wracking, really nerve wracking. I did a Einfeld 0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:03.359 and that was really nerve wracking, because that's like getting 0:22:03.359 --> 0:22:04.800 called up to the big leagues and you don't know 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:09.080 if you're ready or not, you know, but I get it. Yeah, 0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:13.680 I just know that I aspire to be with it 0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:18.280 and be in, you know, for the greater good and 0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:21.840 be able to to tap into what the writer has 0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:27.720 put down and at the very least expects the cadiens 0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:30.760 to be there. And you you hope, and you wish 0:22:30.760 --> 0:22:34.199 you can hire the right athletes to go to that 0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:36.879 for you. And and I just felt really lucky, and 0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:40.359 I felt like I was in good a really good company, 0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:43.160 and I wanted to I wanted to do well, that's 0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:45.119 kind of what I remember. Well, you hit it out 0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:48.200 of the park, pal, what a great episode. Hysterically funny. 0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:52.000 I mean, just you know, being so contentious with with 0:22:52.080 --> 0:22:55.600 Laurel I and he's calling her an East German basketball 0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:59.119 player and she's too tall, and I mean that was hysterical, 0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:04.159 absolutely hysterical, to be fair. I mean, Room, you know, 0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:07.879 really had great aspirations of becoming a you know, a 0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:12.520 top rate cort of culturist and caret grower, and he, uh, 0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:17.080 you know, he didn't tell Jackson about his aspirations, but 0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:21.240 he was going to take over Jackson's business. And you know, 0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:23.000 if they would have let him go, Jackson would have 0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:25.119 been out on his heels, and you know, ruined had 0:23:25.160 --> 0:23:29.120 taken over his identity. So that's so let me ask 0:23:29.160 --> 0:23:32.639 you this. Uh, A lot of people on this staff 0:23:32.720 --> 0:23:35.080 want to know. His producers want to know. Was it 0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:38.520 your idea to cut the heads off the butter Swans? Yeah? 0:23:38.720 --> 0:23:40.520 I knew, I knew it. I was right. I won 0:23:40.600 --> 0:23:43.080 the bet, I won the I didn't know whether I 0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:45.880 get captured. But then I remember the deep going, oh, yeah, 0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:49.160 we gotta go around and get a single the the 0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:51.439 the butt because I was just like, what can I do? 0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:54.200 Because I'm just saying over here, what what kind of 0:23:54.240 --> 0:23:56.879 business can I? You know, they do back? You know, 0:23:57.160 --> 0:24:01.720 I'm just trying to think about the editor, you know, true. Yeah, 0:24:01.800 --> 0:24:03.720 that's that's one of the things actors have to think 0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:08.159 about as the editor by accident. I guess it was 0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:10.000 by accident, but I just kind of was looked it 0:24:10.080 --> 0:24:12.160 up so I could watch the episode before I got 0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:15.960 a link. And somebody who's a reviewer or like a fan, 0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:19.560 a really big fan of your of the show, was 0:24:19.680 --> 0:24:22.280 reviewing the episode and when my scene came on, when 0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:24.600 he saw me, he's like, who's that guy think he is? 0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:28.720 That guy is a little prick? Is he? What a 0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:33.160 lame punk? Really? Really know? Is that what you think? 0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:39.399 And he was just like and then it was hilarious. 0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:45.120 It was really good. That's very colorful language from from 0:24:46.880 --> 0:24:50.119 I Take my Head Off America. There you go? And 0:24:50.160 --> 0:24:52.320 what was it like working with Lauren Graham? Did you 0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:57.280 did you? Did you enjoy that? Professional h just amazing 0:24:57.320 --> 0:25:00.960 girl had a lot of weight on her shoulders and 0:25:01.080 --> 0:25:06.679 she just handled it like class acts, smooth, smooth the operator, 0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:13.640 really a nice, well mannered, down to earth What more 0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:16.000 can you want? You know? She just she made it 0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:18.800 releasy on me, as did everyone else there. And all 0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:20.960 I had to do with my eyes would show up 0:25:20.960 --> 0:25:24.240 into a part of this great happening right right? Did 0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:27.000 you know that? Did you know that you were going 0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:28.800 to do more episodes or what they just book you 0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:32.040 one at a time, as I remember, I think they 0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:36.199 were one at a time, right, I just remember I 0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:39.840 had Ted Demi passed away on the last episode I 0:25:39.920 --> 0:25:42.720 was doing. It, just passed them at the basketball playing 0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:46.360 basketball down in Venice, runt of mine and we had 0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:50.119 we were we had a working relationship in them and uh, 0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:55.240 I was really tore up about it and I couldn't 0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:58.040 get finished this episode, this last episode I was doing, 0:25:58.200 --> 0:26:01.760 which was a holiday episode. I did my best, you know, 0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:03.919