WEBVTT - Building a Farm from Scratch: Lessons and Advice from Kenya

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<v Speaker 3>And it was a tea farm, so I'm asking.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, okay, well how much are you actually well, fine,

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<v Speaker 4>you're producing tea a gat it? Okay, so how much

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<v Speaker 4>you what's your revenue a year? And it just did

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<v Speaker 4>not It didn't add up at all, like at all.

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<v Speaker 4>But for them, it's like a lot of times the

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<v Speaker 4>herritage land, which I totally respect, I get that right,

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<v Speaker 4>And if they don't have to sell, then there's no

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<v Speaker 4>motivation there, you know what I mean. It's not like

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<v Speaker 4>I think, it's just a different system here, right, so

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<v Speaker 4>you just have to adjust to that.

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<v Speaker 3>So there are deals one thousand percent.

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<v Speaker 4>You can absolutely find land that is comparable I would

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<v Speaker 4>say some parts of California, and like I keep comparing

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<v Speaker 4>it to like Texas, right, Like you can get great land.

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<v Speaker 2>I I heard like ten thousand and acre on it

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<v Speaker 2>is that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's like a good yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And then sometimes though, like there might be land that's

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<v Speaker 4>like ten thousand a plot, but it'll be because it's

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<v Speaker 4>like they really value the road, right, so like it'll

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<v Speaker 4>be like things that we don't really think about, but

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<v Speaker 4>like if it's close, they'll tell you how close it

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<v Speaker 4>is to the main road, and the closer it is

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<v Speaker 4>to the main road, the higher the price will be.

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<v Speaker 3>So I've seen plots that.

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<v Speaker 4>Are like, say you could go anywhere from like three

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<v Speaker 4>hundred square meters, which is like I guess the size

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<v Speaker 4>you would like build a house, right, And they'll be

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<v Speaker 4>like it's ten thous dollars for that plot, which you're like, wait,

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<v Speaker 4>I just could buy an aggre for They're like yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>but not here.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like, where's the road, yeah exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that a lot of people, especially

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<v Speaker 1>away from ignorant to is how profitable farming can be. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you said, we went to a tea farm, we got

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<v Speaker 1>to see your farm, and we brought down the onion thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about that and why people should really be looking

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<v Speaker 1>at this as a business opportunity.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh man, I mean like when you think about I

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<v Speaker 4>knew it had to be profitable because you see it

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<v Speaker 4>and you're like, these guys are doing it because it's

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<v Speaker 4>making money. But I couldn't really wrap my brain around it.

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<v Speaker 4>But my lawyer again who's been super helpful, he's a farmer,

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<v Speaker 4>and he was like, I make way more money farming.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like this is a short fire. So he started

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<v Speaker 4>to break it down for me. When I started to understand, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>it's like this is something that especially here because I

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<v Speaker 4>think it, Yeah, really I think here, like this is

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<v Speaker 4>so much agriculture like opportunities here, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>the younger people are not doing it as much that

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<v Speaker 4>they need it right and so like, for example, the

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<v Speaker 4>reason I decided to do onions is because a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of you know, they were getting like a year ago,

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<v Speaker 4>they were getting a lot of the onions from Tanzania,

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<v Speaker 4>and then recently they kind of banned the onions from Tanzania.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's like they need onion farmers here. I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>I can do that, right, So things like that. But

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<v Speaker 4>for example, like you know after your costs, right, if

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<v Speaker 4>you if you put in five acres of onions, right

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<v Speaker 4>and with everything, so you got your with the exception

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<v Speaker 4>of the borehole, which will make your money back within

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<v Speaker 4>the year. But say like just all of your driplines

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<v Speaker 4>and all of that stuff, right for five acres, if

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<v Speaker 4>you once you spend all that, which is like say

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<v Speaker 4>eleven thousand dollars, you can make between let's say thirty

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<v Speaker 4>conservatively till like thirty five thousand dollars within let's say

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<v Speaker 4>a quarter. Right, so at minimum you have two harvests

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<v Speaker 4>a year for only five acres. That's a good you

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<v Speaker 4>can live on that, right, it's a good living. And

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<v Speaker 4>then say you add another five acres, like so it's

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<v Speaker 4>it is actually extremely profitable.

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<v Speaker 3>They're looking for farmers. They want people to farm.

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<v Speaker 4>It's such a good opportunity, especially Kenya. Kenya has so

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<v Speaker 4>much flat land, you know, and it's great soil.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Africa.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like you throw a seed in the ground and

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<v Speaker 4>stuff just grows, you know what I mean. Like literally,

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<v Speaker 4>like it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>It takes.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't take as much as we've ruined our soil

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<v Speaker 4>in the States, you know, And it took me so

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<v Speaker 4>much to I mean even thinking about that, Like when

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<v Speaker 4>I think about my farm in California, it took me

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<v Speaker 4>a year before I could plant anything because the soil

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<v Speaker 4>was so depleted and it was just so ruined.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I had to go.

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<v Speaker 4>Through this whole process of like fixing the soil just

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<v Speaker 4>so I could grow stuff. Whereas here it's like, I

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<v Speaker 4>mean I could put anything in the ground. You're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>look it's a tree. You should see my backyard right now.

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<v Speaker 4>I a little in an apartment. My backyard is like

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<v Speaker 4>a jungle I have, but I ended up have been

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<v Speaker 4>here a year, right, So I've banana trees that are

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<v Speaker 4>like literally like twenty five feet tall, and like I

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<v Speaker 4>had to cover them to keep the monkeys from taking

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<v Speaker 4>all the fruit.

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<v Speaker 3>And I made It's amazing, you know. So it's just

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<v Speaker 3>to show the difference.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, so I was gonna acually, what is the process

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<v Speaker 5>that actually said, because buying land is one thing, but

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<v Speaker 5>having an operational farms another thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to like have an irrigation system.

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<v Speaker 5>You gotta you know, I'm assuming you to plant the seas,

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<v Speaker 5>you gotta have people that's working it. You gotta have

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<v Speaker 5>pesticite control. Perhaps you gotta put the fence. Like I

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<v Speaker 5>think people don't understand how complex farming. They look at

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<v Speaker 5>farming is something that's like especially people from cities, right

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<v Speaker 5>as something that's like backwards, right or something that. But

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<v Speaker 5>it's like it's so people don't associate technology with farming,

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<v Speaker 5>But that's like the first form of tech.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, it is farming.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, And like I said, it's also real money, right,

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's real money.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's also like.

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<v Speaker 4>When you think about like food safety and just like

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<v Speaker 4>no matter what's happening in the world, if you're farming,

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<v Speaker 4>you've got this.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean honestly, like the only thing that's.

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<v Speaker 4>Gonna be could be the weather, right, But even that,

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<v Speaker 4>like there's there's safeties that you can you know, take

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<v Speaker 4>to get around that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think, like for me like buying all

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<v Speaker 3>this stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>One thing I have to say is that like especially

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<v Speaker 4>in the farming areas, people are people want to work.

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<v Speaker 4>So it wasn't even hard, Like I got an agronomous

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<v Speaker 4>and these are people would like full on like degrees

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<v Speaker 4>in agronomy and like farming stuff that I was just

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<v Speaker 4>kind of like fumbling through it, like they really know

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<v Speaker 4>what to do, you know, And so I ended up

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<v Speaker 4>I ended up finding someone. It was very again, it's

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<v Speaker 4>just random, like because Naivasha specifically is a farm area.

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<v Speaker 3>So like my car broke down and.

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<v Speaker 4>I was talking to the mechanic and then he was like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>this is a good This guy's a good agriculture like

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<v Speaker 4>he's a horticulturist actually, and I was like okay, cool.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I talked to him and he was like.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, well, who can I have help me?

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<v Speaker 4>Like really do this and.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like why no guy?

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<v Speaker 4>And then I just like what snapped him? And he

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<v Speaker 4>was like I'll be there on Sunday. I was like great.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's also like you have to talk to people.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to like some people are not gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>as good.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>You just got to kind of get out there. You

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<v Speaker 4>can't be afraid to speak to people and kind of

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<v Speaker 4>figure it out. It is something you have to learn, right,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I'm still learning, but it's totally doable. One thing

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<v Speaker 4>I will say to you different here than anywhere else.

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<v Speaker 3>And people are so willing to help. They're so well,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, they really are.

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<v Speaker 4>There's like no dumb questions because I asked tons of

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<v Speaker 4>questions and they're just so willing to help. And they

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<v Speaker 4>don't want you to mess up, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>They're like, no, no, no, that's terrible, don't do that, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>And you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, oh, I was going there because as you were

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<v Speaker 1>talking and we spent a few days together, I'm thinking, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're really knowledgeable in this. So there's been an education process,

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<v Speaker 1>but even when we are with our drivers, they're knowledgeable

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<v Speaker 1>about everything. And how has the impact that the locals

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<v Speaker 1>had on the process of you saying all right, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got this acreage. I want to add more. They gave

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<v Speaker 1>me some ideas. I'm going to add this. Wait, how

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<v Speaker 1>do I power this? This might be a new idea.

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<v Speaker 1>How much is the impact you had on you so much?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, when you think about even moving to a

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<v Speaker 4>place where it's like the people, That's one of the

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<v Speaker 4>first things that I fell in love with here was

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<v Speaker 4>the people, and like these people are loving and care

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<v Speaker 4>and they care and it's just from the top to

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<v Speaker 4>the bottom, like you could be in the mall, bump someone,

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<v Speaker 4>and just how that interaction goes, you know, to really

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<v Speaker 4>needing someoney, to be like, I need help.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how to do this. Help me, do

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 4>Like, it's just so it's so different culturally, I think

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<v Speaker 4>from that perspective, it's like welcoming, right, it's warm.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think too, like what I.

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<v Speaker 4>Really appreciate and what's made this so feasible is that

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<v Speaker 4>there is a process. Even if it takes a long time,

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<v Speaker 4>it's the same. They'll be like, no, this is what

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<v Speaker 4>you have to do.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got to do this.

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<v Speaker 4>And so whenever one keeps giving me this same answer,

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<v Speaker 4>you're like, okay, you know you're not being taken for

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<v Speaker 4>a ride. It's like, this is how you have to

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<v Speaker 4>do it. And so then it becomes like, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>well this is the way to do it. This is

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<v Speaker 4>how we do it, and they, like I said, what

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<v Speaker 4>you don't know? People will help and even you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll talk to random people. They're like did you plant this?

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<v Speaker 4>And are you putting this around it? And oh no, no, no, sister,

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<v Speaker 4>you gotta put baking soda. And I was like, I

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<v Speaker 4>did hear that? They're like yeah, yah, yeah, I put

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<v Speaker 4>baking soda if you don't want those. But you know,

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<v Speaker 4>little things like that and you're just like, oh okay.

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<v Speaker 4>But they're always willing to help. So it makes something

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<v Speaker 4>that could feel really daunting and new. It makes it

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<v Speaker 4>easier because it's not like it doesn't feel like crabs

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<v Speaker 4>in a barrow where everyone's just like, you know, fighting

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<v Speaker 4>to win.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like they're like, we're farm't we farm?

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<v Speaker 4>It happens you you can't drive up a road and

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<v Speaker 4>can you not see some sort of someone selling some

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<v Speaker 4>fruit or vegetables or something, right, Like, there's so many

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<v Speaker 4>things people are just they're farmers and so it's great,

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<v Speaker 4>Like you learn a lot just by regular conversations.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like, so, what's the hardest part of farming? Right,

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<v Speaker 5>even from you learning in America to now having a

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<v Speaker 5>farm and can't like what is the heart? Dealing with droughts,

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<v Speaker 5>even animals off your font? Like, what's the hardest part

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<v Speaker 5>that you had to figure out?

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<v Speaker 3>I think I keep saying that.

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<v Speaker 4>Like my farm in California was like my like training

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<v Speaker 4>ground for this, right because it was smaller and I

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<v Speaker 4>had major pests there too, So like it's just figuring

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<v Speaker 4>out like, Okay, what am I dealing with here? I

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<v Speaker 4>think water has been a challenge, Like the rain, No

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<v Speaker 4>rain is great, it rains so much here. I think

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<v Speaker 4>getting like the borehole says like that system is so.

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<v Speaker 2>What is that?

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<v Speaker 4>So a borehole is like, well, right, so it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>basically they're digging into the ground and well, first you

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<v Speaker 4>have to get like a water analysis to see if

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<v Speaker 4>there actually is water there, right, So you'll pay someone

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<v Speaker 4>to come. Then you need a geologist to check and

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<v Speaker 4>make sure like see what the rock situation is. And

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of people will say, oh, you don't need that.

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<v Speaker 4>I did it, so I just was like I need

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<v Speaker 4>to know, like what's happening. It is an extra cost obviously,

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<v Speaker 4>but you need to check like if there's water there,

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<v Speaker 4>and then you need to have someone come. And what

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<v Speaker 4>I learned was someone will tell you like they can

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<v Speaker 4>do it for cheaper, but you don't really necessarily want

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<v Speaker 4>that because then your borehole is gonna break down. And

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<v Speaker 4>so essentially there they come, they check the water, and

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<v Speaker 4>then they have to dig down between two hundred to

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<v Speaker 4>three hundred meters and then they put the casing in

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<v Speaker 4>there and then you've got this pump that's gonna bring

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<v Speaker 4>the water up.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a well, it's like a well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like a smaller well essentially.

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<v Speaker 2>And it pumps up. But what is the purpose of that?

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<v Speaker 2>To keep the crops?

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<v Speaker 3>It wills to irrigate?

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<v Speaker 4>And also because even if you're gonna build a house there,

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<v Speaker 4>gonna need water, right because a lot of the land

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<v Speaker 4>that you're gonna buy is rule right, so there's been

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<v Speaker 4>nothing there before, so you need to make sure because

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of land like there was. I was about

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<v Speaker 4>to sign papers on this other land and then I

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<v Speaker 4>and the guy was like, you should just check. And

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<v Speaker 4>that's when I was like, I wasn't gonna do the jelige,

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<v Speaker 4>but the guys.

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<v Speaker 3>You should just do it. That's okay. I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 3>keep doing it for all the land. And I ended

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<v Speaker 3>up doing it.

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<v Speaker 4>And he's like, there are these massive boulders up to

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<v Speaker 4>seven meters down, so my farming would have been a wash.

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<v Speaker 2>How much water is under it? Like does it?

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<v Speaker 3>It just depends?

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<v Speaker 4>Right? So like for me, right now, that first borehole

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<v Speaker 4>that we saw that we just dug pulls up. It's

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<v Speaker 4>like ten point four cubit feet of water or whatever

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<v Speaker 4>every day, right, So that's so then that's how we

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<v Speaker 4>did the math. So then I know they said that

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<v Speaker 4>that amount of water, if you're continually getting that can

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<v Speaker 4>cover up to maybe ten acres. Me wanted to be

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<v Speaker 4>on the safe side. I decided to do five right,

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<v Speaker 4>and then I'll put another borehole, so I know that

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<v Speaker 4>no matter what, we'll have water.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's also solar.

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<v Speaker 4>So then you have to figure out if you're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>get a generator or if you're going to hook into

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<v Speaker 4>Kenya Power, which is also an option. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things we kind of like breezed over

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<v Speaker 1>was the animals, and you know we grow up in farms,

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<v Speaker 1>is like, hey, hopefully these groundhogs don't eat this or

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<v Speaker 1>the birds don't eat it.

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<v Speaker 2>You have a whole different set.

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<v Speaker 1>Of animals hienas zebras.

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<v Speaker 3>How is that now?

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<v Speaker 2>Again?

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<v Speaker 1>That and making sure that they're protected because it was

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<v Speaker 1>their land.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely absolutely.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the thing that I've learned so much about

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<v Speaker 4>being here too, and it's funny actually even being in California,

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<v Speaker 4>is that there is a way, and people have been

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<v Speaker 4>doing it for millennia, right, there's a way to farm

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<v Speaker 4>and not completely like ruin the ecosystem, but become a.

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