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Speaker 1: Well, welcome everyone. It is the Local Toy Dealers KSR

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Speaker 1: postgame show, Final one of the UK football season. The

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Speaker 1: Cats get embarrassed in Louisville forty one to nothing, give

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Speaker 1: is what I said was purgatory. That's where we are.

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Speaker 1: You can give us a shout. We'll open up the

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Speaker 1: phones at the end of this segment. And here's the

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Speaker 1: way I'm going to do this today. Today, I think

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Speaker 1: I want to kind of talk about sort of the

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Speaker 1: game and my position on the program and then kind

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Speaker 1: of throw it to you all. And you know, in

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Speaker 1: the last few weeks we've talked a lot about what

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Speaker 1: would happen, what could happen. I think now is the

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Speaker 1: time for fans just to be able to say their

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Speaker 1: will open them when I finish, and then and then

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Speaker 1: let you go start with the game. I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to go into detail on it. We got just destroyed

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Speaker 1: forty one to nothing. That means in the last two

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Speaker 1: years we've lost to Louisville eighty two to seventeen eighty

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Speaker 1: two to seventeen against two Louisville teams that, towards the

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Speaker 1: end of the season for both of those years, were

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Speaker 1: on a downward trend. They still found a way in

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Speaker 1: consecutive years to not just beat us, but humiliate us.

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Speaker 1: Today is the most humiliating. Today is probably the most

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Speaker 1: humiliating Kentucky Louisville game of the Stoops era. Not necessarily

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Speaker 1: because of the margin, although it's an insane margin. I'll

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Speaker 1: note it's one point more than the Joker Phillips lost

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Speaker 1: to Vandy that basically ended his time here, but also

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Speaker 1: because of by game time, I think we were the favorite.

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Speaker 1: I think it flipped right at game time and we

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Speaker 1: were the one and a half point favorite. This was

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Speaker 1: a Louisville team that had lost three straight games, that

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Speaker 1: was without their time top four running backs. They started

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Speaker 1: Kentucky that at this week last year played against Corbin

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Speaker 1: what happened today. It's a humiliating loss, and it was

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Speaker 1: a game that was never close. The moment they blocked

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Speaker 1: then they quit for the second straight week, they quit,

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Speaker 1: which is in some ways even more embarrassing than the

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Speaker 1: final result that you quit against Vandy and Louisville in

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Speaker 1: back to back weeks, when winning any of the games

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Speaker 1: would have gotten you a Bowl birth you not only

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Speaker 1: got humiliated in both of them, you quit. So it's

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Speaker 1: a terrible loss and there's no hiding it. It's awful,

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Speaker 1: but it's also not worth breaking down because the team

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Speaker 1: field next year. Probably the most interesting thing coming out

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Speaker 1: of the game is that Vince Marrow tweeted at KSR

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Speaker 1: from the sidelines with six minutes to go, Billy was

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Speaker 1: That is I mean, that is incredible, and it's very

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Speaker 1: Vince Marrow. Vince, I'm sure you're listening right now. Congrats,

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Speaker 1: but six minutes to go, that's insane. So ultimately, talking

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Speaker 1: I am much more of an incrementalist than most people are.

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Speaker 1: should do with Mark Stoops? And you may remember I said,

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Speaker 1: But five wins would be the worst scenario. I was

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Speaker 1: That is probably the worst scenario. After the game's over,

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Speaker 1: Mark Stoops says, basically, actually, let me read the quote

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Speaker 1: gonna walk away? Are you kidding me? There's zero percent

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Speaker 1: as I'm concerned. Zero means zero zero percent chance I

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Speaker 1: this is my take Kentucky football and really even broader

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Speaker 1: Mark Stoops. And that's hard to say in some ways

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Speaker 1: think it's important to know what Stoops has done. Stoops

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Speaker 1: has been the best coach at Kentucky of my lifetime

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Speaker 1: for the majority of his career. When he came here,

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Speaker 1: this program was abysmal. It had two wins. The fans

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Speaker 1: He made Ohio's base and he created a program that

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Speaker 1: And think about all the NFL players he produced. At

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Speaker 1: focus on the past. You have to focus on the future.

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Speaker 1: And the reality is that going forward, I cannot see

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Speaker 1: He said, we're going to work like we always do.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna try to build this roster. You know, we've

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Speaker 1: the fans on their team. I have a question for you, Billy,

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Speaker 1: We're going to be in sixteenth because the teams that

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's time to get going, Matt you go.

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Speaker 6: I agree with David thing you said everybody, and I

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Called Louisville and Kentucky quit last week.

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Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, man, I agree with everything you said. Stoops

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I would have thought. I've never known

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Speaker 1: person not to take money a contract says they give them,

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Speaker 1: they don't have to do that. And so while I

435
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: part of me wants to ask him to, at the

436
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: end of the day, the fact we owe him thirty

437
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: seven million dollars if we do it, ultimately, that's Mitch

438
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: Marnhart's fault. It's not Mark Stoops's fault.

439
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 7: Right, you know, Yeah, I just fut, it's his fault.

440
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 7: We're in this same spot again, just just the whole

441
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 7: cow situation, and then you turn around have done it

442
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 7: to us again.

443
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 1: That's right.

444
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Speaker 7: Do you think that season ticket holders? Do you think

445
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 7: that takes a hit? And honestly, I would love to

446
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 7: have season tickets. I have a son at Eku right

447
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 7: now and he said, don't you dare buy season tickets

448
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 7: right now?

449
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

450
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 7: And I would love to buy them, but I just

451
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 7: don't want to in this kind of situation.

452
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Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I appreciate the call.

453
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: I think it will certainly lose some the questions how many?

454
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think some people have season

455
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Speaker 1: tickets for social reasons, so like, I don't know, I

456
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: don't know. I think attendance is usually a better measure

457
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 1: than actual tickets sale. But I don't know. Listen if

458
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: they do, if they do bring those, if they do

459
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Speaker 1: bring them back, like I mean, they they couldn't have

460
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 1: handled this offseason worse in pretty much every way possible.

461
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Speaker 1: And you know, how do you sell this to the

462
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Speaker 1: I just don't know how you sell this back to

463
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: the fans? How? I mean, what is there to be

464
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: excited about them? I guess Cutter, maybe some of these

465
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: young receivers, but I mean, they just got destroyed. So

466
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's go to uh, Isaac, what's up? Isaac?

467
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Speaker 3: Hi?

468
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Speaker 1: Am, Matt, how are you good? What's up?

469
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Speaker 8: I've just kind of been growing apathetic towards his team

470
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 8: this season, like it's I mean, it's time for a

471
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 8: change for sure. I mean, Barnestewkes has been the coach

472
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Speaker 8: for my whole life, but he's got to go. But

473
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Speaker 8: my main point is, if if I were Miss Barnhart

474
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Speaker 8: and Mark Steve's Agent's coming to me and putting that

475
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Speaker 8: provision on the table where we have to pay in

476
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Speaker 8: sixty days or who or Mark steps will walk if

477
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Speaker 8: that provision is not put in, how does Miss Barnhart

478
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 8: just not let him walk? In my opinion there's no

479
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Speaker 8: coach in the country that is worth putting that provision

480
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Speaker 8: in the contract.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I agree with you in hindsight, I

482
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: don't know what happened in that moment. I wasn't in

483
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: the room. Did he have another job offer? I think

484
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: when they did that contract there was a lot more.

485
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Speaker 1: I mean, Stoops was very popular, so it would have

486
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Speaker 1: been hard if he walked away. At the same time,

487
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Speaker 1: though part of me would say, since I don't know

488
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Speaker 1: of any other coach in the country that has that provision,

489
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Speaker 1: I think he got out bluffed by Jimmy Sexton. The

490
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: only other person that got that was Jimbo Fisher, who

491
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Speaker 1: was coming off a national championship. And while he was

492
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: a failure, he also today said his protege Mark Stoops

493
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Speaker 1: that Louisville was a racehorse and we were what a

494
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: wounded donkey or something, and that's his mentor right that

495
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: said that. So, yeah, I at best and I appreciate

496
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: the call. At best, Mitch got vastly out negotiated in that.

497
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: That's the best read of it. At worst, he's just

498
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: bad at that. You know, the other provisions in the contract.

499
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Speaker 1: I don't even mind. I don't even mind the money amount,

500
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Speaker 1: because at the time we didn't want him to leave.

501
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: I don't even mind the term of years. I just

502
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: mind that sixty day provision because nobody else has that.

503
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: That's not an industry norm. And I know of three

504
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Speaker 1: coaches that have gotten that, and two of them were here.

505
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: That just doesn't make sense, the hateful truth. What does

506
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Speaker 1: that mean?

507
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Speaker 2: Billy that's his name?

508
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: All right? Go ahead?

509
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Speaker 9: Yeah, fire Mark States and firebarn Heart, And I appreciate

510
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 9: the call.

511
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Speaker 1: Well, there you go. It's kind of what I thought

512
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Speaker 1: was when I saw that. When I saw that, I

513
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: just kind of thought that's what was coming. James, Go ahead, James, James.

514
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 5: After the game, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm here, hell looking here?

515
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: Yes, go ahead.

516
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 5: Sorry about that. So immediately after the game, despite the performance,

517
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 5: with all the noise going on, Tutter wants to stay.

518
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 5: Cutter wants to be a Wildcat, and I really like

519
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 5: seeing that. But my worry is if what if changes

520
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 5: do happen, how likely is he to stay or how

521
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 5: likely is he, you know, to leave or transfer out?

522
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 5: I mean, he could be a high target for some

523
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 5: really good football team.

524
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean Mark, So Mark clearly screwed up earlier

525
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: this week, saying that he was one hundred percent in.

526
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, how do you know he

527
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: screwed up because he walked it back in the postgame.

528
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: I kind of heard that the Bully folks didn't like that. Now,

529
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: with that said, Bully did say after the game he

530
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Speaker 1: wants to be at Kentucky. He did say wants to

531
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Speaker 1: be at Kentucky. I will note, I'm I can't help

532
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: but parse people's words. I do think it matters. He

533
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: said I want to be Kentucky. He did not say

534
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Speaker 1: I will be at Kentucky. Mark Stoops said we have

535
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: lots of players locked up, Billy. He did not say

536
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: we have Bowley locked up, right, So I mean those

537
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: those things matter. With that said, I think there is

538
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: a very very good chance Bowley is back, and I

539
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: think most of the young players that have done well

540
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: this year, if Stoops were to come back, would also

541
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Speaker 1: be back. But I don't think for me that's enough

542
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: to just say, well, let's just run it back.

543
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Speaker 5: I totally agree with that. Thank you for taking the.

544
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: Call, Appreciate the call and listen. You know, I think

545
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: people probably know this. It's not easy for me to

546
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: say that stuff because there's probably a good chance he

547
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: will be back and things are not going to be

548
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: great for me for saying that. You know, they're probably

549
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: not gonna be very happy, either Mark or the administ

550
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: like Barnhardt and those guys for me saying it. But

551
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Speaker 1: I also just have to tell you how I feel.

552
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,239
Speaker 1: And I really didn't get to the point that I

553
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: was like, we just have to do it until halftime

554
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: tonight because I still was like, well, it's a lot

555
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: of money. But the money was always the issue for me,

556
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: and the money is still an issue. I can't magically

557
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: say it's gonna appear. But I now am like, what

558
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: are we doing if we bring back? Like, what are

559
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,959
Speaker 1: we doing? What is gonna happen? What is gonna change?

560
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I could pull up that schedule next year,

561
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: do you I mean winning six games? I mean I don't.

562
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: Maybe you see it, I don't, Nick, go ahead and Nick.

563
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 3: Hey, Matt, what's up?

564
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 7: I was wondering, Uh, how do you think Mark Steeps

565
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 7: lost the locker room between from now in Tennessee Tech.

566
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if he lost the locker room.

567
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: I haven't heard that he lost the locker room. I

568
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: just think, you know, he wasn't able to get him

569
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,479
Speaker 1: to play that. I don't think that means like they

570
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: hate him. I actually think the opposite. I think those

571
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: guys want to succeed for him. I think, especially this group,

572
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: I think last year they lost the locker room. I

573
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: don't think they lost it this year, especially the young guys.

574
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 1: I just think, you know, they just couldn't do it.

575
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 1: You can, you can have like, you can have a

576
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: nice guys, and you just can't get it done. And

577
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: so I don't think he lost the locker room, at

578
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: least that I've heard. I appreciate the call. I do

579
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: think he lost the locker room last year, but I

580
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: don't think that happened at least from what I've heard

581
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: this year. Andrew, go ahead, Andrew.

582
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 10: That long time who I was getting kicked off a

583
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 10: computer's high school listening to J Lucas never called him before,

584
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 10: but uh on a football and basketball I'm fully prepared

585
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 10: to get whipped on Tuesday. I just want to know

586
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 10: where's this department called? Like, what what is the motivation

587
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 10: for me to continue to support the program? Donate to

588
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 10: in I l by pickets to both Ghost Sports.

589
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think the motivation for basketball is

590
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: we're only six games into the season. Football, though, I

591
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: think especially the donating nil, I think that's a fair

592
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 1: question where you like, who's excited to give to ANIL

593
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: for football next year?

594
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 11: Not me?

595
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: I mean who is excited for that? I don't know

596
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: who those people are?

597
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 12: Right?

598
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 10: I'm not poor? I mean I'm you know, I'm making

599
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 10: okay money UK grad with the with the bed listening

600
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 10: to the UK football games for me to sleep right

601
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 10: by the stadium as a baby. You know, I'm I'm

602
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 10: but I just don't understand why I'm at What is

603
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 10: what stoops have to go? You can't keep doing that.

604
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 10: I think Polk can get it right. That's a separate issue.

605
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 10: But but the stupid thing.

606
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 13: We got to make a move.

607
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: Appreciate it.

608
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 5: Call.

609
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people agree with you. Yeah,

610
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: I don't know how you. I don't know how you

611
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: would get in I old donations for next year for football.

612
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, maybe they will, but I don't know.

613
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: And I I just like just think about people sometimes

614
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: say we focus too much on PR but let me

615
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: just let me just give an example of where I

616
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 1: think Mitch is unbelievably behind the times. When's the last

617
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 1: time you all heard Mitch speak? Anybody know?

618
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 5: No?

619
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: I don't even know now counter that with other ads.

620
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: I've heard the ad at old miss speak like four

621
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: times in the last few weeks. Mitch Bornhardt says anything

622
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: we hear from him like twice a year. It's absurd.

623
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 1: Even during all of this happening with Stoops, he never

624
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: said a word, even when we were two and five, Like,

625
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: he never says anything. Can you remember the most passionate

626
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: Mitch Barnhart moment of the last five.

627
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 2: Years, maybe after hiring Pope?

628
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: Okay, but again that's an official press con Like true,

629
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: he was at football media Day, But has he said

630
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: a word since then? Like he needs to speak today.

631
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 1: Let me put it like this, if he's gonna bring

632
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 1: Mark Stoops back, he needs to say it right now.

633
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: Like every moment you don't say it, what happens, Billy, The.

634
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: Void is filled.

635
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: The void is filled. So if you're going to bring

636
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: him back, you need to say it right now now.

637
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: If you're not, or if you're thinking about it, then

638
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: that's a different question. But if Mitch knows he's bringing

639
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: Mitch Stoops back, he should be talking, because every moment

640
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: he doesn't talk, people are going to think, well maybe,

641
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: And I don't know that he ever thinks about the

642
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: pr aspect of any of this. I think they are

643
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: so bad at pr in the football and athletic department

644
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: that it's like sometimes I go listen, I volunteer to

645
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:30,439
Speaker 1: help you just do better, But they're just not good

646
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: at it. Let's go to Brad. Go ahead, Brad.

647
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 14: They three practical steps. Number one, get the attorneys in

648
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 14: the room to see if they can negotiate out of

649
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 14: the sixty or six or ninety.

650
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 1: Day sixty days.

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Speaker 14: That's step one. You can't get it. Next thing, you

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Speaker 14: go to the money number two. Number three if you can't.

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Speaker 14: If you can't get the money, I think you got

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Speaker 14: to make a switch with the I guess the border

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Speaker 14: show athletic department.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's a oh yeah, that's not an

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Speaker 1: impress I mean that's that's at least a logical plan.

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Speaker 1: I also think, look one more thing about both Stoops

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Speaker 1: and Mitch. Let's say you believe they're both have a

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Speaker 1: positive future. Let's say you believe they'll both turn it around. Billy,

661
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Speaker 1: how many years could they possibly have left. How many

662
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: years is Mitch really gonna go from now on? Right?

663
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: Like at Max at Ras not two three. So let's

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Speaker 1: just go ahead and do it right because this is

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Speaker 1: the most important year or two that this will set

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Speaker 1: up college sports for the next twenty years. There's something

667
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Speaker 1: about people who have a lot of success, Mario, that

668
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 1: they feel like no one else can do it, and

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Speaker 1: that's not true. You can be successful and then someone

670
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Speaker 1: after you can do it too. Remind me of this

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Speaker 1: billion like eight or ten years or maybe five. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when you give it up, right, But like for me,

673
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Speaker 1: it was really hard for me to like hand over

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Speaker 1: the website. It was like I built this, like can

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Speaker 1: I No, I need it? But you know what they

676
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Speaker 1: do fine, they're good. They don't need me. Mitch, He's

677
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Speaker 1: not the only person that can run an athletic department.

678
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Speaker 1: I saw no filter the cut man say on Twitter, like, well,

679
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Speaker 1: who you're gonna get? You think Mark Soops is the

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Speaker 1: only guy that can go five and seven. If we

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Speaker 1: were ten and two, Billy, that might be different. But

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Speaker 1: we're five and seven. Yeah, we can find other people

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Speaker 1: to go five and seven. So you know, just like

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Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell and Nancy Pelosi and like, you don't have

685
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Speaker 1: to do it forever. You can let someone else do

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Speaker 1: eight five nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven.

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Speaker 1: We'll take a break. Be right back. It's a Local

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Speaker 1: Toy Dealers KSR postgame show. Welcome back. It is the

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Speaker 1: Local Toy Deers KSR postgame Show. Eight five nine two

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Speaker 1: eighth twenty two eighty seven. One person says Matt, I

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Speaker 1: love you. I think you're very smart. But you own

692
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Speaker 1: a restaurant. It's built on a radio show, and you

693
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Speaker 1: cannot broadcast the radio show through the speakers without feedback.

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Speaker 1: Hire a smart person, like you tell Bernhardt to hire

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Speaker 1: a smart person to get it to work. Fairpoint, that

696
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Speaker 1: is a problem, touoche, Yes, touche. We can never get

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Speaker 1: the equipment to work. But that's why if I was

698
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Speaker 1: running like an audio department, I wouldn't hire me, right.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's kind of where we are. One

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Speaker 1: person rides Mat, I saw you walking downtown and I thought,

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Speaker 1: isn't the game on? True? I wasn't gonna watch a

702
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Speaker 1: second half. I mean, what was the point I watched

703
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: first half? I thought I had somebody. I texted somebody

704
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Speaker 1: said if if we come back, let me know, and

705
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Speaker 1: I'll pop in some and watching because I was trying

706
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Speaker 1: to think of what I was gonna say, and I

707
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: need to get my steps in. And then I had

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Speaker 1: to go shave.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you came in. You said you needed shaving crops.

710
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Speaker 1: I forgot shaved because, like you know, now, my beard

711
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: grows gray if I don't if I don't do it

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Speaker 1: all right, One person says, madam, have you a list

713
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Speaker 1: of names? Who is working at Kentucky on July first?

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Speaker 5: I like this?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Mark Stoops.

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Speaker 1: Bush Hamden, Uh, Brad White, Mitch Barnhardt. Okay, so this

717
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Speaker 1: is not a who I think should be working here,

718
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Speaker 1: but who I think will be. I think Bush Hampden

719
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Speaker 1: is almost not certainly, but very unlikely to be here

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Speaker 1: next year. At this point, I think he could have

721
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Speaker 1: been absent these last two games. Brad White, I think

722
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Speaker 1: is probably gonna no matter what Stoops does, do something else.

723
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Speaker 1: So that's another thing you got to think about. If

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Speaker 1: Stups comes back, we might have two new coordinators. Is

725
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Speaker 1: that good for a person that has one year to

726
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Speaker 1: kind of show it? I think Mitch Barnhardt is gonna

727
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Speaker 1: step away. I hope that's again. I'm not calling for

728
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Speaker 1: his job in the sense of like he should be fired,

729
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Speaker 1: but I hope he does. It's time. It's time for

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Speaker 1: him to move on. And then for Mark, I think

731
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Speaker 1: it's over, but I don't think he knows it's over.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not sure it's again. It's like a divorce, Okay,

733
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Speaker 1: husband and wife both in their hearts know it's over.

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Speaker 1: Husband's in denial, thinks maybe if he can just act

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Speaker 1: a little better and keep the wife around. Wife knows

736
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Speaker 1: it's over. Does she think she ought to stay a

737
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Speaker 1: couple more year for the kids, or do you just

738
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Speaker 1: go ahead and do it now? That's where I think

739
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Speaker 1: we are. That's the analogy in my opinion. And all

740
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Speaker 1: their friends are like, it's probably time. You know, you

741
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Speaker 1: two can't stop fighting. Yeah, Like, that's where we are.

742
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Speaker 1: I just it's it's over. It was a good run.

743
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Speaker 1: It was a really good run, and in Pitch Barnhardt's case,

744
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Speaker 1: it was a great run. But it's over. Let's go

745
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Speaker 1: to Robert. What's up, Robert?

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Speaker 15: What's going on that?

747
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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 15: I'm sorry I missed your intro. It sounded like it

749
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Speaker 15: was epic. I will go back and catch it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll happen up on YouTube and then Mario's making

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Speaker 1: a little video of it toobe go ahead.

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Speaker 15: I've got to ask, so earlier this week you've been saying, hey, Mitch,

753
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Speaker 15: maybe going after this this calendar or this sports a year,

754
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Speaker 15: like in May, June, whatever it may be. I mean,

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Speaker 15: if that's the case, then Stoops has got to say,

756
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Speaker 15: I don't see why we hire a coach Mitch go

757
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Speaker 15: away and then the new adea is stuck with the

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Speaker 15: new coach.

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Speaker 1: Well it's a very fair point. I mean, it's a

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Speaker 1: very fair point. But what do you do right? Like

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Speaker 1: like I mean, let's say let's say that Mitch. Let

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Speaker 1: me just put put a scenario. Let's say Mitch Barnhardt

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Speaker 1: in his in his mind knows he's gonna step away,

764
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Speaker 1: but he also thinks he should replace the coach. She

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Speaker 1: just keep the coach just cause? Or I mean, like,

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Speaker 1: what do you do? I don't I'm with you. I

767
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Speaker 1: don't really know the answer to that question. You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I think.

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Speaker 5: And I will.

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Speaker 15: I will tell you. I tested the text machine the

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Speaker 15: other day when Drew was on his rent and he

772
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Speaker 15: was right, you know, who needs to be ponying up

773
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Speaker 15: right now, mister Barnhart, and I know that that's a

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Speaker 15: snowballs chance and blank that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't think he has thirty seven million dollars

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Speaker 1: to give.

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Speaker 5: But.

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Speaker 15: He could, he could contribute those, Well, he doesn't.

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Speaker 1: I want it to be fair to Mitch. He contributes

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Speaker 1: a lot to you. But he's one of the few

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Speaker 1: ads I know that gives back to the university. I mean,

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Speaker 1: like part of why he has an amount of money

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Speaker 1: he's pledged I think, to give to the university every

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Speaker 1: year for like the last five years, and I think

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Speaker 1: that ends this year, which is I think part of

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Speaker 1: why I kind of think he resigns at the end

787
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Speaker 1: of it. But to be fair to him, he's actually

788
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Speaker 1: given a lot back to the university, more than almost

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Speaker 1: any other a d I bet has.

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Speaker 15: You make it tough on me.

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Speaker 1: I'm just I just want to be fair to him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just you know, I actually think he

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Speaker 1: has been and I appreciate the call. I think he's

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Speaker 1: been very generous in giving back. That doesn't excuse the contracts,

795
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Speaker 1: but I mean, one person on the text machine says,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's say Mitch leaves, who should be the

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Speaker 1: A D. So here's what I would here's what I

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Speaker 1: think should happen if he leaves. I'm a big believer

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Speaker 1: that the way you make a decision, especially hiring decisions,

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Speaker 1: you have a number of candidates, a set number. You

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Speaker 1: don't want to have too many because then you get like,

802
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Speaker 1: what is it? What's what's the frame? Billy like, well,

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Speaker 1: something leads to indecision if you have too many choices.

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Speaker 1: Too many choices can lead to indecision. So you have like,

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Speaker 1: let's say, let's just say five is the number. In

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Speaker 1: my opinion, two of those candidates, without questions should be

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Speaker 1: Mark Hill and Dwayne Peevee. They've not only earned it,

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Speaker 1: they know this school. They should be two of the candidates.

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Speaker 1: But there should be more. It should not be handed

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Speaker 1: to somebody just because they've been here. You should do

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Speaker 1: a search and have a couple more. Then you should

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Speaker 1: look at all of them and make the choice of

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Speaker 1: who would be the best one. And I would argue

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Speaker 1: it should not be Mitch Barnhardt making that choice. It

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Speaker 1: should be people apart. It should be a hiring committee.

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Speaker 1: They should do it like when they hired Mark Stoops,

817
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Speaker 1: they put a committee together. They interviewed like five people.

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Speaker 1: They chose stoops and I think that worked out. I

819
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Speaker 1: think Mark Hill and Dwayne Pevee should be two of them,

820
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Speaker 1: but they shouldn't be the only two. And I say

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Speaker 1: that even though Dwayne PvE is my great friend and

822
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Speaker 1: I get along with Mark Hill. There should be more

823
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Speaker 1: and then you should decide who's the best of the group.

824
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Speaker 1: You shouldn't just hand it to somebody no offense. Nobody's

825
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Speaker 1: earned that yet. Who's next, Rooney, Rooney, go ahead.

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Speaker 5: Rooney, Matt's cleaning the house tonight.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I love those guys, and if Mark

828
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Speaker 1: Hill or Dwayne pv becomes the AD, I'm gonna be

829
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Speaker 1: their biggest backer, hoping helping out, hoping I can make

830
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Speaker 1: them succeed. But like everybody should earn their.

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Speaker 5: Job, right, Yeah, I agree. I called in after the

832
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Speaker 5: Vanda game and I said, the only thing they have

833
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Speaker 5: to do, or the coach students has to do is

834
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Speaker 5: not get smoked by Louisville, which he did. Yeah, and

835
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Speaker 5: I'm kind of with Drew at this point. It's not

836
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Speaker 5: my money, but who are we gonna get because we

837
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Speaker 5: can't do another Billy g higher lot.

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Speaker 1: Of people we could get. Let me ask you a

839
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Speaker 1: question before uh Vandy hired what is it Lee Clark

840
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Speaker 1: Lee or whatever his name is, did you ever heard

841
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Speaker 1: of him? Had you ever heard of Kurt Signatty? Have

842
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: you ever heard of the new guy that that Oklahoma

843
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: State just hired from North Texas. There's a lot of

844
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Speaker 1: great coaches out there, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, Yeah, but I think you know, just just break

846
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Speaker 5: down one of those examples. You got Vandy. They got

847
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Speaker 5: a coach. I have no idea who he is, but

848
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Speaker 5: he got lucky with his n il and got a

849
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Speaker 5: great Damnit. He didn't get lucky.

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Speaker 1: He didn't get lucky. He picked him.

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Speaker 5: He didn't get lucky.

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Speaker 1: He picked the right but he picked the right guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, when people have success, and I'm not saying

854
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Speaker 1: you are like this, Rooney, but when people have success,

855
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: the loser mentalities to go. They got lucky. No, he

856
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Speaker 1: was smart. And by the way, Diego Pove is really good.

857
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: But like they're not tied at Tennessee right now because

858
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Speaker 1: he's the only good player they've got, right.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I agree with that. But there's lucky and everything

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Speaker 5: there is. But I'm lucky. But I'm lucky where I'm

861
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Speaker 5: at today, and you're lucky where you're at. You're exactly right.

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Speaker 1: But success is not one hundred percent. But success is

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Speaker 1: not one hun there's there's there's others that luck is

864
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: part of it, but like success is when talent.

865
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 5: Meets luck, right, that's right.

866
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: So I appreciate you. I mean it's easy to go. Well,

867
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: it didn't work out, so I'm unlucky. Yeah, I mean

868
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: I'm lucky. Patrick Patterson and Jay Lucas were there. I'm

869
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: lucky Instagram didn't exist when John Wall and DeMarcus Cousins

870
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: got here. But I also worked my ass off, right

871
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: like John Caliperry's lucky that this recruiter, that recruit hit,

872
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: but he also knew what he was doing to get

873
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: him here. You know, there's a lot like luck's part

874
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: of it, but it's not all of it. Let's go

875
00:50:55,560 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: to Noah, what's up? Noah? Hey, Matt, what's up?

876
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 5: So I'm making my way back home.

877
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 16: I was at the game today, sat up in the

878
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 16: nose leads. Took my brother to his first ever Kentucky

879
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 16: football game.

880
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 17: What to start?

881
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a tough well just till it's all it's

882
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 1: all down, it's all better from here.

883
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, hopefully.

884
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,479
Speaker 16: Because my first game that I went to was when

885
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 16: Kentucky got trounced forty to nothing to Vanderbilt, and Jokers.

886
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 5: Last game, well this is good.

887
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: It's yeah.

888
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 7: Yeah.

889
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 16: So what I'll ask is, with the success that we've

890
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 16: had in the past few years and the success that

891
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 16: we're seeing certain teams like Indiana, teams like Vanderbilt, is.

892
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 5: This a new low for Kentucky? Does this feel worse

893
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 5: than it did when Joker got fired?

894
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: No, because I didn't think there was any hope of

895
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 1: success when Joker got highed like none. I was excited

896
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: for a new era. But I just I never thought Kentucky.

897
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: I mean, if you listen to show, you know, I

898
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: thought Kentucky football would always be horrible. I just had

899
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: accepted it. I think in this new era, you can win.

900
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: We can go get somebody and win. We just have

901
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 1: to go get the right person. So yeah, so no,

902
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a new low. I mean, we

903
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: went five and seven. That's better than last year. So

904
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: this is a low. Last year was worse. But I

905
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: would say to you that now I'm not as hopeless

906
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 1: because I actually think you can win at this school,

907
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: Whereas I used to not think that, Yeah, I don't.

908
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 18: I guess it could be the fact that they were

909
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,240
Speaker 18: playing Grove Street Party on the left kickoff.

910
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: I didn't like that.

911
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 17: It really burned up you know.

912
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean they trolled us. Well, I appreciate

913
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,959
Speaker 1: the call that Grove Street. When I heard it, Billy

914
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: and I were sitting in here and we were like, oh,

915
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: but I would have done it too if I were them.

916
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: You know what's amazing is we rescued their season. Billy,

917
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,240
Speaker 1: they were like, I mean they were in the tank.

918
00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:00,280
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, they lost, they had lost three straight game,

919
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: and and like, just we're a disaster. I mean we

920
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 1: were favored at kickoff, we lost forty one. Let's go

921
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 1: to Jay, Go ahead, Jay.

922
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 19: Yeah, Matt disagreed with your intro. You're saying that Kentucky

923
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 19: is a business should look down the road. Well, their

924
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 19: basketball intro music is right here, right now, right here,

925
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 19: right now. Uh l A rams Dish Golf brought in

926
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 19: Stafford one right now. Dandy brings in their players wins

927
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 19: right now. Indiana brings in their players wins right now.

928
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: So what do you what do you disagree? Well, what

929
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 1: do you disagree.

930
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 19: With UK President? Can I say something here, UK President?

931
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 19: Are they going to have the cajonies to pull the

932
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 19: trigger to get read A Barnhart? So I believe is

933
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 19: on the one of the commissioners for the basketball selection committee.

934
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 19: But we got people with power do not leave their positions.

935
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: What do you disagree with?

936
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 19: Am I correct?

937
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: What do you disagree with? Though? I don't understand what

938
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: you're disagreement with?

939
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 3: You said you in your earlier statele your life.

940
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 19: We're not looking down down, We're not looking ahead. You

941
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 19: don't look ahead. You'd look for right now, you win

942
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 19: right now, not keep looking ten years down the road

943
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 19: when right now.

944
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I got a lot of right now. Yeah,

945
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: I don't. I still don't know that you. I mean

946
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: we came the same conclusion.

947
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 2: Sounds like he agreed with you honestly.

948
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that seems like an argument you would

949
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: make for keeping studs because you would go, I think

950
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: he can turn it around right now. I don't totally

951
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: understand this point, but you know, I think I saw

952
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: justin and say Mark Stoops has been the coach here

953
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: for thirteen years. Eli Cappeluto has been the president of

954
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: UK for sixteen years, which is an enormous amount of

955
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,720
Speaker 1: time for a college president. I bet there are almost

956
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: no college presidents in America that have been in their

957
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: job for that long. Usually it's like a four or

958
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: five year job. And then Mitch Barnhart's been the ad

959
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: for twenty three years. That's a lot of stagnation. You know,

960
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: that's a lot of like the same names for a

961
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 1: long time. I don't know, Sometimes you need to do

962
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: something different. What's next?

963
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 2: We got another j on the line.

964
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 20: Jay, go ahead, Hey Matt, so you stole a bit

965
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 20: of my thunder. But my whole thing is I want

966
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 20: soups in Michigan, obviously, but if steps away he has

967
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 20: that advisory role, how do we know that. You know,

968
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 20: he's not gonna get one of his boys, Mark or

969
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 20: Dwayne your buddy and them just do the same exact.

970
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 1: Things, because he shouldn't be the one. He shouldn't be

971
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: the one picking it. I mean Mark, Like like when

972
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: we go back to Mark and Dwayne, I'm not saying

973
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: they can't be good ads. I think they actually can't.

974
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,240
Speaker 1: But I think Mitch should have no role in picking

975
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: the replacement. I think they should pick a group of

976
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: people that are outside the athletic department and they should choose.

977
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 1: And then if they end up choosing one of those guys,

978
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: I'm good with it. Somebody has to choose, right, but

979
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 1: he shouldn't be the one to choose for the reasons

980
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: you're talking about.

981
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 20: Yeah, it just kind of scares me with that advisory role,

982
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 20: because you know, like everyone who is that successful has

983
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 20: a little bit of you know, control issues. They want

984
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 20: to control it.

985
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 3: And I think he's going to be the same way.

986
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 20: And I mean also Roland was talking a while ago

987
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 20: that Capoluto's on his way out and they're just going

988
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 20: to get one of his assistants too, to be the

989
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 20: next president. And so it's like we're not really moving

990
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,240
Speaker 20: forward if we get rid of Mitch and Capo Luto

991
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,760
Speaker 20: and have the same stuff. It's kind of like hiring

992
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 20: Brea wh as our next football coach. It's the same

993
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 20: exact thing.

994
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 3: We need a whole new start.

995
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 20: We need to get rid of everyone and just start over.

996
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I appreciate the call. I mean, Eli Cappoluto's

997
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: it's a little different because the job of a university

998
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,760
Speaker 1: president's a lot more than sports, and I think in general,

999
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: Eli Cappoluto has been a successful president University Kentucky. It's

1000
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: a much better school as a university now than it

1001
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: was when he got there. So, I mean sports is

1002
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: a small part of that job, and I actually think

1003
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: he's done a pretty good job at that job. Eight

1004
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,919
Speaker 1: five to nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven.

1005
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: We'll take a break and come back for a final segment.

1006
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: It's a Local Toy Dealers KSR postgame show. Walker back

1007
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: final segment, Local Toy Dealers KSR postgame Show. You know

1008
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 1: I cited a song in my opening. Do you think

1009
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: he was doing Billy that Van Halen song? Right now?

1010
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: Do you know that song?

1011
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 2: Song? What song you talking about?

1012
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: The Van Halen song? Right now? Do you know that's song?

1013
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 2: I think I've heard that before?

1014
00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: Right now? Hey tail tomorrow, you don't know that song?

1015
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 2: No, I think I do. But you think Stoops is

1016
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 2: doing that?

1017
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 9: No?

1018
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: I thought that caller that said right now fifteen short

1019
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: times that was saying.

1020
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 2: That was that was a little It was a lot

1021
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 2: of right now.

1022
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I still don't know what his point was. H

1023
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: Vandy and Tennessee tied at twenty one second half. Missouri

1024
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: Leeds Arkansas twenty seventeen might be the last time Bobby

1025
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: Petrino was a head coach today, uh and then LSU

1026
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: and Oklahoma just three to three. So to what of

1027
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 1: the game tonight? Alabama Auburn, what else? Anything?

1028
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 11: You know?

1029
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 2: Florida was playing Florida State, but that's already started, so

1030
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what's tonight?

1031
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, if I'm nine to two eight twenty

1032
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: two eighty seven, we'll go till just a little pit

1033
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: past six and then call it an evening. Thank you all.

1034
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I this is probably like a record number

1035
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: of listeners for posting. When you think, William, this has

1036
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: got to be up there. If not basketball, we probably

1037
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: had more today Cal lost and all that national title,

1038
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: but it's got to be close, wouldn't you think?

1039
00:58:57,960 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1040
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 2: These are these are biggies to the union one.

1041
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, biggest one we ever had was the h when

1042
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: we won the national championship. But I think that after

1043
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: we lost Oakland was probably pretty close. Nothing'll ever get

1044
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,919
Speaker 1: close to Katina Pale though, like that. The numbers there

1045
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: were just stupid. Terry and Shepherdsville go Terry.

1046
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 3: Well, the song the guy that the callers referencing is

1047
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 3: the one that goes right here, right now, right here,

1048
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 3: right now. Okay, So I came out to my happy place,

1049
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 3: that came out to my fire pit. I got my

1050
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 3: fire going, uh, hoping to look up and get some guys,

1051
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 3: some brothers South End State. I just I really did.

1052
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 3: I thought today win or loose. In my heart of hearts,

1053
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 3: I thought Stoops was going to walk away. I thought

1054
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 3: he was. I thought I thought he was going to say,

1055
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 3: I've done all I can do here, I'm going to

1056
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 3: hand it off to someone. The fact that he doubled

1057
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 3: down and said see four times really hurts me at

1058
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 3: my core because he still has to look in the

1059
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 3: mirror and ask himself, am I doing the Am I

1060
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 3: doing this? This fan base justice? And it has to

1061
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 3: be no. Every answer has to be no. It can't

1062
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 3: be anything other than that. Now, Matt, you're probably gonna

1063
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 3: agree with this what I'm going to say here, but

1064
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 3: if you go back and watch the second half, you

1065
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 3: might change your mind. My message to the fans, are

1066
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 3: you watching the games? Why do you care if Cutter

1067
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 3: Bowlie comes back. He's not good. He's not good. He

1068
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 3: misses wide open receivers. Across the middle. He forces the

1069
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 3: ball on the coverage, he can't run, and when he

1070
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 3: does run, he makes the wrong gay and he throws

1071
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 3: the ball to the other team. All the time, he's

1072
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 3: got like thirteen or fourteen interceptions and he didn't even

1073
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 3: start the year off shine.

1074
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: So I will say, you got two points here, Let's

1075
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: let's go back to the first one. I would not

1076
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 1: have thought he was going to walk away, but I

1077
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 1: was a little surprised by his kind of defiance in

1078
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: that answer. He kind of laughed when the question was

1079
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Speaker 1: asked and he was like zero. That was a little

1080
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: surprising to me. I mean, I would have thought he

1081
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 1: would have taken the view of, you know, this has

1082
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 1: not gone well, and I but I want to be

1083
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 1: here and hopefully, you know, we figure out a way

1084
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 1: to you know, something like that. I was surprised that

1085
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: because that was it reminded me of when Jim Calhoun

1086
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: was asked if he was going to give up any

1087
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: of his salary. Do you remember that? And he was

1088
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 1: like not one dollar or something like that, And it

1089
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: kind of reminded me of that, which is not a

1090
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: great memory. On your second thing, I disagree with you

1091
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 1: about Cutter I understand what you're saying. My like.

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01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 3: My, if he was if he wasn't from Kentucky, people

1093
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 3: wouldn't be there.

1094
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 21: May be true, I.

1095
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: Mean, that may be true. We do care a lot

1096
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 1: more about people can Tuck. What I would say to

1097
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 1: you is, I'd love Cutter to be back. I actually

1098
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: think Cutter has a lot of talent. I would say this, though,

1099
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: whatever decision you make can't be made because of Cutter

1100
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: bowling one way or the other. Well, I mean, I want,

1101
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: I want Cutter to come back, and I appreciate the call.

1102
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 1: I think he can be good here. But you don't

1103
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 1: make this decision, whatever it is, you don't make it

1104
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: based on Cutter Bowl. You make it based on what's

1105
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: good for Kentucky football, in Kentucky athletics long term. Going forward, Branson,

1106
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Branson, Tom, who what's up?

1107
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 11: Hey?

1108
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 5: Real quick?

1109
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 17: That last call just completely caught me off guard. But

1110
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 17: to respond to that, why in the world would he

1111
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 17: walk away from thirty seven million dollars?

1112
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 1: He wouldn't. He wouldn't and he shouldn't. But he maybe

1113
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 1: should be flexible to talk to us about saying, hey, man,

1114
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: do you have to we have to give it to

1115
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: you in sixty days, can we find a way to

1116
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 1: you know that, to me, that would be good of him.

1117
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 17: Completely agree with you there, And his answer in the

1118
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 17: press conference was kind of smug.

1119
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: I mean, he's called in here smug. I agree, it

1120
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 1: was kind of smug.

1121
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 17: Yeah, real quick. Just to get away from the big

1122
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 17: picture type of things in the NIL world, I think

1123
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 17: it's probably as important as ever to evaluate.

1124
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 1: Talent without question.

1125
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 17: We have a backup. We have a backup quarterback making

1126
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 17: one point five million dollars in the SEC.

1127
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 1: We are screwed up. We screwed up our evaluations, We

1128
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 1: screwed up. I mean, Devin Leary I think was okay,

1129
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 1: but probably not a good fit for our Liam Cohen

1130
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: at the time. Brock Vandergriff was a whiff, Zach Cauzida

1131
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 1: was a whiff. And they're not the only ones. We

1132
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,479
Speaker 1: have a lot of money sitting on the bench while

1133
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: we play freshman. I think this season is a perfect example.

1134
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 1: We got a lot of money sitting on the bench

1135
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 1: that are not playing because they didn't evaluate the transfer

1136
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: as well. And the guys that were surprisingly good were

1137
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: actually dudes that we recruited and developed. I wonder if

1138
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 1: Mark Stoops is a dude that's like kind of like

1139
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 1: Dabo Sweeney in the sense that he's really good. He's

1140
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: good at recruiting and developing, but he's not either w well,

1141
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 1: he's willing to take transfers, but he doesn't pick the

1142
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: right ones.

1143
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 17: And look into the future. I mean, we're we've heard

1144
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 17: all off season about how you know, the portal was

1145
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 17: used to add depth, depth, depth, and then Stoops after

1146
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 17: the game today all he talks about is how we

1147
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 17: have a lack of depth.

1148
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 1: Well, it's true, extremely concros Well, they also don't have

1149
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: a consist appreciate the call. They don't have a consistent

1150
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 1: philosophy of what they want to do. I mean, last okay,

1151
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 1: so go back two years ago twenty twenty three. The

1152
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: theory was, let's go get guys who are super talented

1153
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: and can come plug holes. But then they ended up

1154
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 1: getting a lot of guys. And then the next year

1155
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 1: it was like, well, they're not talented enough, so let's

1156
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 1: go get dudes who were backups at the big programs.

1157
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: But then that didn't work because they didn't have a

1158
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,919
Speaker 1: good attitude. Then this year it was like, all right,

1159
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 1: let's go get guys who were big time contributors at

1160
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,919
Speaker 1: small programs, and then that has really works. So now

1161
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 1: like they're saying, let's go get Juco guys, Billy, it's

1162
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: almost like they don't know what to get. They don't

1163
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 1: have a philosophy.

1164
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta pick one.

1165
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: You gotta have a philosophy. You know, you got to decide. Okay,

1166
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 1: what is what am I going to do? Because they've

1167
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 1: had like four different philosophies, which tells me they don't

1168
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 1: know what to do. Let's go to Paul. Paul, go ahead,

1169
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 1: Paul Stock, Carla all right, Carl.

1170
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 21: Matt first time, forever, long time?

1171
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 1: Who are.

1172
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 11: Who are?

1173
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 3: Okay, what we're talking about earlier?

1174
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 5: The recruit, I mean, why is why stupid? Is even terrible?

1175
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: You know what? I give him credit for knowing it

1176
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 1: wasn't going well, you know what I mean?

1177
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, admitted when he was down and he.

1178
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 1: Realized, so I'm just gonna stop. I give him credit

1179
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 1: for that. He knew when to fold them. Like, let's

1180
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 1: do six more of them. We'll call it a night. Jake,

1181
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 1: go ahead, Jake, Hey man, how are you doing this?

1182
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 1: This is Jake. I can't believe you got through this.

1183
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 1: Is the phone lines. This is the closest I've ever

1184
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 1: seen to like the moment we hang up Billy, another

1185
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 1: one rings like it's is it always like that? Big

1186
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 1: games yet unbelievable?

1187
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 12: Go ahead, Jake, Hey, I was curious what you have

1188
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 12: to say about the fan like me that hasn't seen

1189
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 12: the the lowest and the highest things. I just saw

1190
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 12: what David Leary did and what Brock did and what

1191
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 12: the what we did this year. But I'm not really

1192
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 12: really ready to get rid.

1193
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 3: Of Mark yet.

1194
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 1: Okay, So why is that?

1195
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 12: Well, because I haven't seen it. I haven't been where

1196
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 12: you guys are right. I haven't seen the worst that

1197
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 12: he's done, and I haven't seen the best he's done.

1198
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 12: What do you mean does that make it?

1199
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 5: Well?

1200
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 12: I haven't wait. The ten and two season that was

1201
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 12: was in twenty twenty one. If I'm doing my mask correct,

1202
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 12: there was two of them, one of the tenant that

1203
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 12: was the first that was one that was one of them,

1204
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 12: and he was and he was a coach then.

1205
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, but you were a fan then, Jay.

1206
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 12: No, I wasn't. I wasn't listening to the games yet.

1207
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't realize that. Okay, So you when did

1208
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 1: you smart?

1209
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 12: Uh? When I when I called you back in twenty

1210
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:40,479
Speaker 12: twenty three, Wow, I.

1211
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 1: Feel like you've been calling a lot longer than two

1212
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 1: or three years. I didn't realize that. Okay, all right,

1213
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 1: so you're well that means you've only seen a struggle. Yeah, okay,

1214
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 1: all right, Well, Jake, I thought you've been around a

1215
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 1: lot longer than two or three years.

1216
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 12: No, when I when I called you back in twenty

1217
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 12: twenty three, wanted to get the wanting to get the

1218
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 12: iHeart app was when I first started to listen to

1219
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 12: this to the games.

1220
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 1: Billy, Did you know it's only been a couple of

1221
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 1: years for I did not.

1222
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 2: I thought he'd well, you make.

1223
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:14,479
Speaker 1: Quite an impression in those couple of years, Jake. Well,

1224
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call you. We will put you down

1225
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 1: as a vote for keeping stoops. Okay, yes, sir, all right,

1226
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 1: now that's a shock to me.

1227
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 2: I didn't think you'd get a shock. In the last

1228
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:28,440
Speaker 2: segment of the tonight's postgam.

1229
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: The biggest shock in the history of KSR was when

1230
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 1: I saw how old Madison was. That's the biggest shock.

1231
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 1: But Jake, only having called for two years, I don't

1232
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 1: even know if I believe him.

1233
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 2: He's so genuine.

1234
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 22: Yeah, I do, all right, Jordan, Go ahead, Jordan, Hey,

1235
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:51,759
Speaker 22: Matt is really quick.

1236
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 18: What sort of emotions do you feel when on every

1237
01:08:55,920 --> 01:09:00,040
Speaker 18: single broadcast they show Mark Stoops, longest tenured head coach.

1238
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 5: The SEC Yeah.

1239
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if I have emotions, I will say

1240
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 1: I had today. I definitely had emotions of kind of

1241
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 1: sadness because it felt like to me, and now I

1242
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 1: can only speak for me personally that for me, it

1243
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:21,759
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, the last remaining hopes that I had

1244
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:25,759
Speaker 1: that this could be turned around, it's kind of over.

1245
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 1: And so that made me sad because I like, I've

1246
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 1: always liked Mark, and I also think this has been

1247
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 1: a really good time and I'm hoping we don't have

1248
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 1: what I'm worried is gonna happen, which he's gonna dig

1249
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 1: in and stay Mitch is gonna feel like he can't

1250
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 1: raise the thirty seven million, then he doesn't get rid

1251
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 1: of him, and we have this situation where the fans

1252
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:51,759
Speaker 1: are against the coach and a relationship that was really

1253
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 1: good turns like toxic in a way that's really not

1254
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 1: healthy for everybody.

1255
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 18: Yeah, I kind of leaning more toward like you know,

1256
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 18: a couple of years ago before I guess he was

1257
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 18: the longest coach and you know, before saving retired, it

1258
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 18: was like, oh, yeah, we've we've held onto our guy.

1259
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 18: You know, we kept him from going to you know,

1260
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 18: Texas A and in and I think Michigan State at

1261
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 18: one point was maybe tossed around. It was like, yeah,

1262
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 18: we've held onto our guy. We've we've had him for

1263
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 18: a while. But now it's almost like, you know, just

1264
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 18: looking at it in hindsight, it feels.

1265
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 5: Like his career has done.

1266
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 3: A bell curve, you know, like it, yeah, that's peak.

1267
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 18: With the two ten and two seasons and now it's

1268
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 18: just sort of on the way down. And if it

1269
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 18: was a stock, when would you sell it?

1270
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 6: Kind of thing?

1271
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's a really great way to put it.

1272
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 7: I agree.

1273
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 1: I had a stock once during the whole post COVID

1274
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 1: thing where I was like, made a lot of money

1275
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 1: and I should have sold it then, but I kept it.

1276
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 1: And then I was like, well, I'm not gonna I mean,

1277
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 1: it's I can't it's on its way down. I can't

1278
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 1: let it go now because what if it bounces back

1279
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 1: and I kept letting it and it Billy just kept

1280
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 1: going down and down and down, and then it was like, oh,

1281
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 1: I should have cut my losses a couple of years before.

1282
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 1: It just feels like the stoups things going down, and

1283
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 1: I appreciate the caul. I don't know who out there.

1284
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: I mean, Bill, do you think there are people out

1285
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,919
Speaker 1: there that are confident this will turn around for the positive?

1286
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 2: Sure there's somebody out there.

1287
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 1: Like, what's the case give me the case for not

1288
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 1: just he should be back. I do think there's a

1289
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 1: case for that, but what's the case for things are

1290
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 1: going to be better in the coming years?

1291
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 2: You know, new offensive coordinator?

1292
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 1: But I mean how many times are we going to

1293
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Speaker 1: have that? I mean, like, like, how many times.

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Speaker 2: Are I mean, you're right require here.

1295
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 1: I mean how many times can we do that?

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Speaker 6: You know?

1297
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brad White, he's been around for a while too,

1298
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 2: and that defense was abysmal these last two weeks. I

1299
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 2: get they had injuries, but that's embarrassing. It's a fifth

1300
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 2: string running back doing that again.

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Speaker 1: It's a walk on, a walk on freshman. Those playing

1302
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:01,480
Speaker 1: against Corbin last year.

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Speaker 2: Your metaphor was they were staying together for the kids. Well,

1304
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 2: this seems pretty detrimental to the kids, if you're standing together.

1305
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 1: You know, that's exactly right. I meant to say that

1306
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 1: in my little thing. When you stay together for the

1307
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 1: kids because you think it's for their best interest, you

1308
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 1: might actually make it worse for the kids. And I

1309
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 1: do wonder if, like you know, this will be worse

1310
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 1: for the if we do this again next year, it

1311
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 1: will be even worse than it is now. Who wants that? Dan?

1312
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:33,759
Speaker 1: Go ahead?

1313
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 5: Dan?

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Speaker 11: Hey, Matt, first time, long time? So you know, I

1315
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 11: go back to one of your first points where you know,

1316
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 11: you talk about how you know it was clear that

1317
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 11: the team had just quit in the second half, specially

1318
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 11: you know that that starts at the top. I mean,

1319
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 11: you know, kids, kids are watching their coaches, they see

1320
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 11: the attitude of their coaches. I just got to have

1321
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 11: a big question of about that. You know, I grew

1322
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 11: up in Columbus, came to the UK and decided that

1323
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 11: I was all in as a UK fan, and to

1324
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 11: this day I still catch hell about it from my dad.

1325
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 11: But you know, I got to think that what we

1326
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 11: see today, and as for all the good things that

1327
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 11: Mark Stupents has done for the program, you know, we

1328
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 11: we appreciate it, but everybody's got a timeline.

1329
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 1: Everybody has. Everyone has. That's a great way to put it.

1330
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:33,600
Speaker 1: Everybody to use a different point. Everyone has an expiration date, right, Yeah,

1331
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 1: for a job.

1332
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 11: I'm saying Mark, I.

1333
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 1: Can't still be a coach, but his expiration date for

1334
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 1: this job has it exactly.

1335
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 11: And you know, not say you know, we're going to

1336
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 11: go out and find a Ryan Day or whoever it is,

1337
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 11: but we might find a guy who is going to

1338
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:55,919
Speaker 11: be a Ryan Day someday. Yes, and maybe that's with us,

1339
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 11: and there's no reason why we can't do that. And

1340
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 11: I just hate the kind of the attitude to the

1341
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 11: program thinking that, or at least seeming that they think

1342
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:06,639
Speaker 11: that we can't make that happen.

1343
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 1: I didn't think we can make it happen, but I

1344
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 1: do now because the world has changed, and the college

1345
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:18,519
Speaker 1: football world, I appreciate the call has changed. It is

1346
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:23,680
Speaker 1: nil has made things possible that weren't possible before. Go

1347
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 1: ass Texas Tech, Go ask Indiana, go as Vandy. It's

1348
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 1: different now. You can do different things. And the traditional

1349
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 1: powers are not guaranteed success. They certainly have a leg up,

1350
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 1: but they're not guaranteed success. So you have a shot.

1351
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 1: And everything has an expiration day. That's right. You can

1352
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: have a perfectly great gallon of milk, Billy, that was great,

1353
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 1: but when it hits the expiration date, no matter how

1354
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 1: great it was, it'll be worse. Yes, it's a good

1355
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 1: That guy's analogy is good. Are you making fun of

1356
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 1: him in that?

1357
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 2: That's a good in that when's the last time you've

1358
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 2: had milk?

1359
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a different point, but the point, but this

1360
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:14,679
Speaker 1: is about his analogy. Let's go to James.

1361
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 22: Go ahead, James, Hey, guys, I'm calling from Louisville, and uh,

1362
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,639
Speaker 22: first off, a guy shout out, Ryan Lemmon, go Kentucky

1363
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 22: Wesleyan down here in Knownsboro.

1364
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Speaker 5: But uh, you know.

1365
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 3: We made Mirler Moss look like a Heisman contenaor today.

1366
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 21: And I'm tired of that.

1367
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 5: But how long do y'all think stupid is gonna be here?

1368
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 3: Man?

1369
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 16: He's the longest SEC coach, the longest tim you're SEC coach.

1370
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 5: I'm tired of that, and uh we we gotta quit that.

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01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 16: But I will say next year when we play him

1372
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 16: down there and down down here in Lexington, it's not

1373
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 16: gonna be forty one nothing, because it's gonna be forty

1374
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 16: four to nothing. We're gonna we're gonna lose bigger because.

1375
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 17: Go go cards.

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01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 3: Little brother.

1377
01:15:57,320 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 1: You got it was a good, a good, good attempt.

1378
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. Uh you think Ryan Lemon is

1379
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:12,680
Speaker 1: still it is? Still don't mean interesting? Should we end

1380
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 1: with a Ryan Liman what he thinks? Yeah, okay, I'll

1381
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 1: tell you what call get Logan next and quickly call

1382
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:22,639
Speaker 1: Ryan Limit and see if he'll I mean he answers any.

1383
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 2: Call, answer the hotline number.

1384
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 1: Uh, text him and say you're gonna call here. All right,

1385
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:29,559
Speaker 1: open the lines. Let's take one more person, so you

1386
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 1: have two calls to get Ryan Liman plus that was

1387
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 1: a card fan. He doesn't count eight five, nine, twenty

1388
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 1: two eighty seven, and we'll take one more. Then I'll

1389
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 1: have two calls and then Ryan. So we'll do Logan.

1390
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 1: All right, you got one right there to stop. Okay,

1391
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 1: come on, okay, Logan, go ahead, Logan.

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01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:47,640
Speaker 9: Well, first of all, you put me on after the

1393
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 9: Cardinals stand tell that dude to get lost.

1394
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 1: Yes, they don't.

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01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 9: Beat us hardly error. We'll give him his we'll give

1396
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 9: him a zoo. But my second, actually my first question

1397
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 9: to you is is does the Board of Trustees not

1398
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 9: also review those contracts they.

1399
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 11: Do, Garnhart approves they do, and we can't.

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01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 5: We can't put all this on Mitch because I think he's.

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01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:10,480
Speaker 9: Done a great job overall.

1402
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 1: Now those two, I mean, I'm gonna hold all right.

1403
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. When you have had a lot

1404
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 1: of success. My guess and I don't know this, I'm

1405
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 1: not at the Board of Trustee meetings, but my guess is,

1406
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,719
Speaker 1: because Mitch has done so well, they give him. They

1407
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 1: have given him a lot of difference over the years,

1408
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 1: and he's earned it, right, And so it's on you,

1409
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I mean, there are things

1410
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 1: iHeart lets me do with my show that no other

1411
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 1: host probably gets to do. But that means if it

1412
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:45,759
Speaker 1: messes up, it's on me. And I think that's probably

1413
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:46,679
Speaker 1: how this is with Mitch.

1414
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 5: All right.

1415
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 9: My second question is, so this is college football is,

1416
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 9: especially in il Era, is a rich man's game. So

1417
01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 9: you get your donors like Craft, for example, You think

1418
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 9: this didn't get under his skin a little bit like

1419
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 9: I think in the background right now, there's a ton

1420
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 9: of conversations going on, phone calls being made. I just

1421
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 9: don't think you can lose your arrival and get shut

1422
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 9: out like that and embarrassed and not stir up a

1423
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 9: hornos new Yeah.

1424
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 1: Well, I can't speak for Joe Craft. I appreciate the call.

1425
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 1: I mean, he has a big he plays a big

1426
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 1: part in all this. I mean he is a huge donor.

1427
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 1: I don't think he makes the final decision by any means,

1428
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 1: But I don't know what he thinks, to be honest

1429
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 1: with you, I really don't. But he's certainly very very

1430
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 1: involved in football, and it's without question probably the person

1431
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 1: that has had the most impact financially on the football

1432
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 1: program during the Stoops era. Adrian, go ahead, Adrian, all right.

1433
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 21: So Matt, I think you hit it right on the nail.

1434
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:56,719
Speaker 21: When you started out, Mitch was far behind being able

1435
01:18:56,760 --> 01:19:01,520
Speaker 21: to keep up with the new way college athletics were. Stutes,

1436
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 21: even in his comments later on, said hey, we're just

1437
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 21: going to keep recruiting, We're going to develop. Well, that's

1438
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 21: just not the way it works. His system works that way. Unfortunately,

1439
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 21: we're not in that error where we have a year

1440
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 21: or two for that to happen.

1441
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 1: It's a really good point. It's like it's like you're

1442
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 1: like Jim Beheim running the zone defense when everybody learned

1443
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 1: to shoot thirds, you know what I mean, Like that

1444
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 1: system just doesn't work anymore.

1445
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 21: That's right, and we have to find somebody who can

1446
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 21: adjust and adjust on the fly swords speak. Unfortunately, if

1447
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 21: this was let's just look at it in as basketball,

1448
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 21: you had some of the greats walk away because they

1449
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 21: couldn't keep up with it. You had Coach k you

1450
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 21: had Roy Williams. Now, let's go to Sabing and well.

1451
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 1: Let's use the better analogy. Let's use the better analogy

1452
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 1: because those guys were old. Think about Tony Bennett and

1453
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 1: Jay Wright. Okay, those those were guys that still had

1454
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 1: years left in them that just decide this isn't for me.

1455
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 1: And while I didn't like that they quit right before

1456
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:07,599
Speaker 1: the season, I do think with both those guys, they

1457
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 1: were just acknowledging what I do may not work.

1458
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 21: Now, that's right, that's right, And that's where UK is

1459
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 21: right now. And that was the point I think you

1460
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:18,599
Speaker 21: were trying to make earlier in the show that some

1461
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:19,719
Speaker 21: people may have missed.

1462
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:23,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate the coch That's exactly if I wasn't clear,

1463
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:27,639
Speaker 1: that's what I meant. Now, Ryan's here, because I started

1464
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:31,479
Speaker 1: with my Okay, it's time to change. Ryan was of

1465
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:34,639
Speaker 1: the opinion he was the most adamant on the show

1466
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:37,720
Speaker 1: last week that you bring him back after back to

1467
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 1: back drubbings to Vandy and Louisville and back to back

1468
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 1: years of Louisville. Ryan, are you still in the same spot?

1469
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 13: Well, you know, I mean my dad was a coach

1470
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:51,640
Speaker 13: and who got fired one time. And I've been you know,

1471
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:54,879
Speaker 13: I've been through that with your coach Blues the dougspar

1472
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 13: So maybe I definitely admit I had a longer lease

1473
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 13: that I probably should have when it comes to issues

1474
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 13: like this.

1475
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 23: The man, you know you sat right beside me. I said,

1476
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 23: I changed my tune after Cal lost to Oakland last year,

1477
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 23: And to be honest, I changed my tune after this loss.

1478
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 5: Today today you've changed.

1479
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 1: Now you're you think he shouldn't be the today flipped you.

1480
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 3: I think the program needs to change.

1481
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:21,679
Speaker 23: It's sad for me they have to fire a coach,

1482
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 23: But you can't run it back next year, won't There

1483
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 23: will not be anybody lining up for season tickets, there

1484
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 23: won't be anybody lining up for nil donation. The program

1485
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 23: needs a change, and to me, I changed today.

1486
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:38,839
Speaker 1: Wow, So Billy, he said last week, nothing would change.

1487
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 1: It was that bad today, don't you think it was?

1488
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:43,600
Speaker 5: I mean, that was an embarrassing I.

1489
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 1: Mean because I didn't think you would have flipped like that.

1490
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:51,559
Speaker 1: But to me, if you flipped, then I don't know

1491
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 1: who's left.

1492
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:55,680
Speaker 23: Like I said, I think, I admit I probably have

1493
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 23: a longer lease than most people, and I wanted to work.

1494
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:00,679
Speaker 15: And to be honest, man, I'm a little sad.

1495
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:03,559
Speaker 3: I'm sad.

1496
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:07,799
Speaker 1: I'm sad, without question, and I'm sad in part because

1497
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 1: I hate to see it in and in part because

1498
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 1: I think it's not going to end.

1499
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 15: And I think we're going to have who's going to

1500
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 15: be buying season tickets next year if they try to

1501
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 15: run it back again.

1502
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if anybody is, but I mean,

1503
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:22,639
Speaker 1: do you think I mean, look, we'll know. Let's put

1504
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 1: it like this. I'll ask the two of you, will

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01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 1: Mark Stoops to be the coach Monday morning when we

1506
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:29,639
Speaker 1: do KSR because if he's a coach Monday morning, he'll

1507
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 1: be the coach. So is he a coach Monday morning? Yes?

1508
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:38,760
Speaker 23: Ryan, I'm going to say no because I think if

1509
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 23: a change has to be made and it's got to

1510
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:44,679
Speaker 23: be made quickly, so it probably happens tomorrow.

1511
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 2: But it's Mitch that's making that decision. That's Mitch's guy.

1512
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 2: He's about to ride off in the sunset himself. Now

1513
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 2: he's going to make a whole new coaching search. Yeah,

1514
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 2: I just don't see that happen.

1515
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 1: Okay, let me be very clear, I do not know.

1516
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 1: I'm going to spend been preparing for this show and

1517
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 1: dealing with the show, so I've done no phone calls,

1518
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 1: no looks, no anything, So I have no notion. Now

1519
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 1: there's something though that sort of tells me that I'm

1520
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 1: kind of like with Ryan, I wonder if maybe it's

1521
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 1: gonna happen. The only reason I say that is I

1522
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 1: expected after that intro Ryan, you know how it goes

1523
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 1: like already blowback and I haven't.

1524
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 3: Gotten nothing yet.

1525
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:36,679
Speaker 1: Now that doesn't mean I won't get.

1526
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 21: It, but sign nobody's reached out, nobody.

1527
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 1: Said anything or not even like said anything. But like

1528
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 1: there's you. Sometimes there's people who would be like, Matt,

1529
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 1: I can't believe you did that because that ain't gonna happen,

1530
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 1: and how you know, like none of that Now that

1531
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 1: maybe that'll come, But that hasn't come yet, so that's

1532
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 1: the only reason I think maybe. But if he's the

1533
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:00,160
Speaker 1: coach when we come on Monday morning, then he he's

1534
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 1: the coach. So we'll find out. Stay tuned tonight and

1535
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 1: especially tomorrow. We'll see all right. Thank you guys, Ryan,

1536
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:09,639
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on. We will see it later.

1537
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 1: Thanks to everybody listening today. Terrible end of the season.

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01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. This has been the local Toy

1539
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 1: Dealers KSR postgame show