WEBVTT - Democratic Russian Roulette

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, peet's and welcome to okay EP Daily with

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<v Speaker 1>Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording live from our podstream

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<v Speaker 1>studios in Times Square. Folks, I just want us to

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<v Speaker 1>remember that it has been nine months, nine months since

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<v Speaker 1>the insurrection, and not one fucking indictment has come down

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<v Speaker 1>from the Department of Justice. Nine months, and we are

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<v Speaker 1>still looking for people who have posted that they were

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<v Speaker 1>at the insurrection on social media. I just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>coming up in my interview with our friend was Jahat Alive.

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<v Speaker 1>The Daily Beast columnist Wash says this, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>we just want. We want that the Justice Department and

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<v Speaker 1>the criminal justice system would treat Trump and all his

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<v Speaker 1>accolades as badly as they treat black and brown innocent

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<v Speaker 1>people right like, for low level infractions. They throw the

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<v Speaker 1>book at these people. You just saw just recently that

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<v Speaker 1>Gavin Newsom, governor of California, decided that he was going

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<v Speaker 1>to do away with mandatory minimum sentencing because of how

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<v Speaker 1>it outside, how it harms right black and brown people

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<v Speaker 1>the most. So again, why is it that we will

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<v Speaker 1>throw the book at low level black and brown people,

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<v Speaker 1>low level drug offenders, but we won't do the same

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<v Speaker 1>for white collar quote unquote white collar crimes that threaten

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<v Speaker 1>our fucking democracy and the future stake that we have

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<v Speaker 1>on the global stage. I'm just I'm so outdone by this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm tired of the reports, I'm tired of the talking

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<v Speaker 1>heads in the commentary around this, and I want to

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<v Speaker 1>know where the fucking action is. You know, every week

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<v Speaker 1>we have Glenn Kirshner join us I MSNBC legal analysts

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<v Speaker 1>and host of Justice Matters talk about the fact that, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the Justice Department does not work as fast

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<v Speaker 1>as we would like them to, and oftentimes we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly what it is that they are working on.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would tell you that to ensure that people

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<v Speaker 1>do not lose faith in our democracy and do not

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<v Speaker 1>lose faith and hope in our agencies, namely the Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Justice, they may want to issue some fucking statements

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<v Speaker 1>that allow us to see that they are working on

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<v Speaker 1>behalf of securing our democracy and not just holding up

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<v Speaker 1>institutional ideals. I you know, I think that at some

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<v Speaker 1>point in time, at some point in time, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in the not too distant future, in the shambles right

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<v Speaker 1>of our democracy, somebody will be listening to this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and they'll say to themselves, you know, it was all

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<v Speaker 1>so clear of the steps that needed to be taken

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<v Speaker 1>and the action in order to secure our democracy and

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that a fascist, authoritarian, white supremaist, misogynist, islamophobic, transphobic,

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<v Speaker 1>homophobic piece of shit wouldn't become president of the United

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<v Speaker 1>States again. But you know, they just decided not to

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<v Speaker 1>not to end the filibuster, not to actually work on

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<v Speaker 1>behalf of the American people, and just roll the dice.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we talk often on this show about the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that essentially we're all just playing Russian roulette, right

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<v Speaker 1>The anti vaxers and the anti maskers and all of

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<v Speaker 1>these people are just friends paying just Russian roulette with

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<v Speaker 1>their lives. But you see, our Congress right now, which

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<v Speaker 1>is controlled by the Democrats, is playing Russian Roulette with

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<v Speaker 1>our democracy by not securing vote rights, by not going

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<v Speaker 1>after those that actually break the law in broad fucking daylight.

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<v Speaker 1>Because what you don't want to set what you believe

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<v Speaker 1>to be a partisan president of investigating a former president

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<v Speaker 1>even though he was twice fucking impeached. This man, dear friends,

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<v Speaker 1>he is running for office again in twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>If he is not placed in goddamn fucking handcuffs in

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<v Speaker 1>the next two years, this man is going to run

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<v Speaker 1>and most likely win again. Not win because I believe

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<v Speaker 1>that that many Americans are going to vote for him,

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<v Speaker 1>but win because our vote will no longer fucking matter.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's exactly what state Republican officials are hoping and

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<v Speaker 1>banking on. We are getting ready to aform an American

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<v Speaker 1>apartheid system where the minority is going to have rule

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<v Speaker 1>over the majority, not just in Congress, but in the

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<v Speaker 1>courts as well. And then they'll get the executive branch,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know what, Republicans will hold power for the

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<v Speaker 1>next twenty thirty, forty fifty years. Because the only way,

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<v Speaker 1>the only direction that I see this going in, if

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<v Speaker 1>we continue to see in action from our Department of Justice,

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<v Speaker 1>is revolution. That's the only way that this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to end. We are headed directly towards a civil war.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't say that as hyperbole. I say that

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<v Speaker 1>as reality. You have Facebook and other social media entities

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<v Speaker 1>that are doing nothing about misinformation. They are doing nothing

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<v Speaker 1>about their platforms being used as organizing tools for hate

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<v Speaker 1>groups right and militias. So you have that on one hand,

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<v Speaker 1>then you have a Democratic controlled Congress that can't get

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<v Speaker 1>their ship together to pass any type of legislation that

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<v Speaker 1>is going to affect the daily lives of the American

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<v Speaker 1>people and make sure that they secure our democracy on

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<v Speaker 1>the other hand, and then you have a president that

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<v Speaker 1>sits in the middle that believe that we're still operating

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<v Speaker 1>the twentieth century, where he's going to solve these problems

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<v Speaker 1>with a sit down summit over some fucking Scotch Wake

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck up. I can think of nothing more urgent

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<v Speaker 1>than securing our right to vote, because if we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have that, then we're not going to have climate change legislation,

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<v Speaker 1>We're not going to have infrastructure bills, we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to have a change right to ensure that all people

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<v Speaker 1>that are able to birth can have an abortion if

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<v Speaker 1>they need one. Everything that has come up over the

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<v Speaker 1>past nine months has pointed to one thing only that

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<v Speaker 1>our democracy is on life support. And frankly, the question

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<v Speaker 1>that I'll ask Wag later is whether or not America

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<v Speaker 1>is already dead and we're living in some type of

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<v Speaker 1>dystopian fucking sixth cents where we're all walking around talking

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<v Speaker 1>to each other and not realizing that we're just a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of apparitions, just a bunch of ghosts of democracy's past.

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<v Speaker 1>Fiona Hill outlined very clearly, very starkly, very stoically in

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<v Speaker 1>our testimony in Donald Trump's first impeachment that you need

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<v Speaker 1>look no further than modern day Russia to see the

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<v Speaker 1>direction that the United States is headed in. You need

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<v Speaker 1>look no further into the fact that the upcoming CEPAC

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<v Speaker 1>Conservative Conference is going to be held in Hungary because

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<v Speaker 1>they believe that hungry, right, a country that doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>real elections, right, they perform democracy, but it's a theater trick.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not something that actually has power driven for

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<v Speaker 1>and by the people. But that's where they're having their

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<v Speaker 1>next convention. So they are telling you all that they

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<v Speaker 1>are doing. They are telling you the dictators that they

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<v Speaker 1>believe in and want to hold up as a model

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<v Speaker 1>for the future of America. And we're all just sitting

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<v Speaker 1>around pretending that Biden can do all things when he

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<v Speaker 1>can barely get his agenda fucking past because he put

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<v Speaker 1>too much faith in the fact that everyone else was

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<v Speaker 1>going to want to do the quote unquote right thing.

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<v Speaker 1>No one does because at the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>What rules us is greed. What rules us is the

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<v Speaker 1>desire or the proximity to power. And like I said

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty sixteen, right on election night, that this was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be white supremacy's last stand. But white supremacy

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<v Speaker 1>is not going down without a motherfucking fight. They have

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<v Speaker 1>the courts, which is where all of us have received

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<v Speaker 1>any of the rights that we have. Now, it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>happen through policy. It happened through laws. It happened through

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<v Speaker 1>the court system. It happened through hard battles. And now

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<v Speaker 1>they own the courts because Democrats decided not to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that. They don't even want to have conversations about

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<v Speaker 1>the expansion of the Supreme Court because they think somehow

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<v Speaker 1>it's set in stone, the number nine. It's not. When

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<v Speaker 1>you think see that things are radically shifting in this

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<v Speaker 1>country at a pace that is neck break, then you

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<v Speaker 1>have to make radical choices. You have to be willing

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<v Speaker 1>to risk losing position, to being risk losing popularity in

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<v Speaker 1>order to get the right things done. But we are

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<v Speaker 1>living in a system where people are more concerned with

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<v Speaker 1>adding money to their pockets, more concerned with their little

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<v Speaker 1>fiefdoms than they are about collective and that's what began

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<v Speaker 1>right with the Tea Party that we all again wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to laugh off. That's what begat the tribalism right was

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<v Speaker 1>this idea that we are going to coalesce around a lie,

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<v Speaker 1>a lie that Barack Obama wasn't an American, a lie

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<v Speaker 1>that he didn't have claim to the presidency because he

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<v Speaker 1>was black, and because we refuse to face the truth

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<v Speaker 1>of white supremacy in this country and how it is

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<v Speaker 1>a part of every fucking agency and institution. We are

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<v Speaker 1>at this place. You know, Wash will say later that

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<v Speaker 1>he believes at this moment was inevitable right that we

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<v Speaker 1>were going to get to a point where our democracy

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<v Speaker 1>was not just going to bend, that it would in

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<v Speaker 1>fact break. He believes that there's still time, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying to you, I don't know that there is. We

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<v Speaker 1>have a handful of months until we begin campaigning for

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty two midterm cycle. We have at fifty

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<v Speaker 1>margin in the Senate, we have a razor thin edge

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<v Speaker 1>up in the House. But you see, Republicans don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to run on anything. That's what they showed us back

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<v Speaker 1>in the twenty twenty election. They didn't even bother running

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<v Speaker 1>on a platform. They said, Oh, we'll just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>rerun the same ship from twenty sixteen. Friends, We have

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<v Speaker 1>a deep problem here. We have a crisis. A constitutional

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<v Speaker 1>crisis was not averted because a couple of people in

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<v Speaker 1>the Justice Department did the right thing in the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>We're in the midst of a constitutional crisis. We're in

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<v Speaker 1>the midst of a moral crisis. We're in the midst

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<v Speaker 1>of a crisis of conscience in this country. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know who sees the urgency of now, because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that the current makeup of folks in Congress do.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that the current administration does, because nobody

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<v Speaker 1>is screaming from the rafters saying, look, folks, the comment

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<v Speaker 1>is coming. We are in armageddon. This is deep impact.

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<v Speaker 1>And it isn't aliens or comments that are going to

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<v Speaker 1>take us out. It is in action and apathy. Coming

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<v Speaker 1>up next, dear friends, is my conversation with wasajahat Ali,

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<v Speaker 1>the columnist at the Daily Beast. He is a friend

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<v Speaker 1>and he has so many thoughts. He makes me feel

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<v Speaker 1>less crazy. So I hope that you enjoy that conversation. Friends.

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<v Speaker 1>I am so happy to welcome back to woke. A

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<v Speaker 1>f daily friend and colleague and Daily Beast columnists was

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<v Speaker 1>Jahat Ali to discuss Guess what, folks, the nine month

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<v Speaker 1>anniversary of the attempted coup to overthrow the government by

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump and his fellow fascist was. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>just learned this week as well, which I'm sure is

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<v Speaker 1>not an accident of timing, that the Senate Judiciary Committee

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<v Speaker 1>had a three hundred and ninety four page report outlining

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<v Speaker 1>all the ways in which Bill Barr, Mark Meadows, Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump and others worked to try and get the Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Justice to say that there was fraud in the

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<v Speaker 1>election in order to subvert our democracy and keep Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump in power. It's been nine months since the insurrection

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<v Speaker 1>right this week, and not one of those people have

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<v Speaker 1>been indicted. And also we have heard that the people

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<v Speaker 1>that have been called upon by the one six Commission

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<v Speaker 1>to be subpoenad and be under oath, Steve Bannon, Cashpital

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<v Speaker 1>and and others have decided, you know what, they think

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<v Speaker 1>that the subpoenas by Congress are a suggestion that they

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<v Speaker 1>would rather not RSVP four. What is going on? Yeah, So,

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<v Speaker 1>what we're witnessing is the rough draft of an insurrection,

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<v Speaker 1>a failed first copy that will be rinsedon, repeated, and

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<v Speaker 1>perfected in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty four. And

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<v Speaker 1>people say, oh, you're you're just being hysterical. I was

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<v Speaker 1>just having a conversation with someone. They said, oh, you

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<v Speaker 1>were just being hysterical and reactionary. But all the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that you and your colleagues, oftentimes people of color were

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<v Speaker 1>seeing for the past four or five years turn out

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<v Speaker 1>to be true, even the effort fa fascism that you use.

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<v Speaker 1>I was so happy to hear it. I wrote a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of articles and tweets about it, and people like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you've gone too far. I had to make the pitch

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<v Speaker 1>to use the word fascism even a year ago. This

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<v Speaker 1>is why you have to really make the case for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what's the case. This is what's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>This is when Trump was in office, right, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is the future we're going to see is minority rule

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<v Speaker 1>to establish white Christian suprem see. And it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>an authoritarian government with the veneer of democracy putin, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>wins elections. No one's gonna say it's a democracy but

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<v Speaker 1>he wins elections. You know, Pustinia Bobari, the dictator of

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<v Speaker 1>Egypt one elections, Victor orbon Is Quoe unquote president of Hungary,

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<v Speaker 1>a hungry of the country which they love. Right now

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<v Speaker 1>the model for Trucker Carlson where they're gonna have sepack

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<v Speaker 1>the Annual Consertive Action political conference is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>in Hungary right like there's there's like a Defcon three,

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<v Speaker 1>Defcon two probably happening right now. But Steve Bennett did

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<v Speaker 1>something I'm gonna give him credit. Flood the zone with shit.

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<v Speaker 1>That was his strategy. If you flood the zone with shit,

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<v Speaker 1>you leave people confused, you leave people overwhelmed, you're able

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<v Speaker 1>to move the Overton window of what's acceptable and not acceptable.

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<v Speaker 1>You're supposed to you're you're supposed to numb the people.

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<v Speaker 1>There's just too many crisis what to believe, what not

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<v Speaker 1>to believe in our media establishment. Let's be honest in

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<v Speaker 1>this incestuous ecosystem where everyone's buddy buddy, and everyone has

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<v Speaker 1>to call balls and strikes, and everyone has the view

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<v Speaker 1>from nowhere. Oftentimes many white gate keepers, because it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>affect them, they say no, no, no, we have to

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<v Speaker 1>do both sides. There's no both sides here. We have

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<v Speaker 1>one side that is aggressively trying to subvert democracy through

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<v Speaker 1>a coup another word that you use that I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>glad that you used, and the other side, which is, yes, flawed,

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<v Speaker 1>but at least it's trying to be adults and raise

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<v Speaker 1>the dead ceiling to keep the government function. And so

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<v Speaker 1>what do you do when the entire conservative ecosystem, not

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<v Speaker 1>just the elected officials, but Fox News, which is celebrating

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<v Speaker 1>his twenty fifth anniversary this week, and also the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and also the strategists and also the lawyers are hell

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<v Speaker 1>bent on minority rule. You're going to have a constitutional

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<v Speaker 1>crisis and you're going to have most likely a civil

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<v Speaker 1>war in this country. And the Justice Department, which should

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<v Speaker 1>be aggressive af right now, has not arrested anybody. So

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<v Speaker 1>to answer your question, I echo your frustration because that

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<v Speaker 1>was my first tweet when this report came out, and

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<v Speaker 1>I tweeted, I'm like, how come nobody's in jail? And

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<v Speaker 1>that tweet kind of went viral and everyone was like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a very good question. I guess we should just

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<v Speaker 1>be black and brown, unarmed protesters protesting officers Chauvin, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>choking George Floyd to death. And then maybe then these

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<v Speaker 1>people will take it seriously. I mean, I could find

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<v Speaker 1>it absolutely shocking and disgusting that, first of all, the

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<v Speaker 1>longest sentence that we have seen come out of the

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<v Speaker 1>insurrectionists was it's four months. That's the longest goddamn sentence

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<v Speaker 1>that we have seen, right for two thousand people breaking

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<v Speaker 1>into the Capitol building, building a guilty and on the

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<v Speaker 1>steps of the Capitol saying and chanting that they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to hang Mike Pence, defecating in the halls of our democracy.

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<v Speaker 1>We have it on every goddamn video, every goddamn angle

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<v Speaker 1>we have seen that. We heard testimony from four police

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<v Speaker 1>officers right from the Capitol Police and DC Metropolitan Police

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the trauma of that day. We've had police

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<v Speaker 1>officers commit suicide following right the insurrection, and yet to

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<v Speaker 1>your point, to your tweet, why isn't anybody in jail?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not just talking about the people that were

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<v Speaker 1>on the steps that day. I'm talking about the people

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<v Speaker 1>that were on the dias at the stop, the Steel rally,

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<v Speaker 1>the Juliani's right, the Josh Hollies that wanted to give

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<v Speaker 1>a fist the Donald Trumps that talked about one six

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<v Speaker 1>being wild. How is it that Congress has the time

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<v Speaker 1>to put together three hundred and ninety some odd page report,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet I'm wondering whether or not they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>even support even enforce the subpoenas. Right, I'm just I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so outraged. I feel like, so I've said this before,

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrats bring a pencil to a knife fight, and

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<v Speaker 1>Mitch McConnell brings a bazooka, and who's gonna win ten

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<v Speaker 1>out of ten times? At the same time, you want to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, go high, like Michelle said, but you need

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<v Speaker 1>some brawlers. The problem is is when you have structural

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<v Speaker 1>deficiencies where we have a fifty fifty Senate and the

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<v Speaker 1>fifty Democrats represent nearly forty million more Americans, and yet

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<v Speaker 1>it's still fifty fifty. You have the electoral College, you

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<v Speaker 1>have massive voter suppression bier Republicans, you have jerrymandering, and

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<v Speaker 1>you literally have one entire gop ecosystem that has held

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<v Speaker 1>bent on obstructionism. Casement point. As we're recording this, we

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<v Speaker 1>just got a small reprief to December for the dead

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<v Speaker 1>ceiling but they're literally hijacking the nation because they have

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<v Speaker 1>admitted Centator till Us admitted it. We will run great

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<v Speaker 1>ads on this in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four that look at the Democrats, Look how much they

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<v Speaker 1>spend so much money. Yeah, because you're not raising the

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<v Speaker 1>dead ceiling for this country to pay off the debts

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<v Speaker 1>incurred under Donald Trump's administration. So you're dealing with nihilists,

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<v Speaker 1>this pro death nihilist movement that is attacking masks, attacking vaccines,

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<v Speaker 1>attacking science, all for their culture work. On the Democratic side,

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<v Speaker 1>you have this unweeling group that is trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>together a diverse coalition, but we are fed because we

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<v Speaker 1>have these coone core moderates. I hate to call them moderates,

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<v Speaker 1>their obstruction. I was gonna say they are And you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, there is a doctor abdul l say ed um,

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<v Speaker 1>he refers to them. He said, no, they're not, They're

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<v Speaker 1>not even there were. They're regressionist, right yea, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fine with the regressionist. I'll take it. So so

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<v Speaker 1>you have so this if we just like, let's give

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<v Speaker 1>Biden to put myself in Biden's shoes and democratsrihoes for

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<v Speaker 1>a second. This is what you're dealing with, a pandemic

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<v Speaker 1>that has killed more than seven hundred thousand people because

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump failed and lied to the American people. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>be honest, trying to reopen America. But you have this

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<v Speaker 1>right wing fringe nut now literally invoking violence upon school

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<v Speaker 1>teachers and physicians. You have a recession, you have this

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<v Speaker 1>debt ceiling. You have obstructionist Republicans. You got Republicans who

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<v Speaker 1>refuse to even take part in a bipartisan commission in

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<v Speaker 1>which this mob tried to kill them and the Vice

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<v Speaker 1>President Mike Pence, and you have massive voter suppression, and

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<v Speaker 1>you have corruption and by the way, you have a

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<v Speaker 1>propaganda network that refuses to be honest and is disinforming people.

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<v Speaker 1>And oh, by the way, you have one year to

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<v Speaker 1>pull it off, Danielle, because you have a razor thin

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<v Speaker 1>margin in the House, and according to all the data

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<v Speaker 1>and the stats and historical trends and voter suppression and jerrymandering,

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans isn't going to take the House and most likely

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<v Speaker 1>the Senate. And so just to like, you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you get so frustrated and people get so frustrated, and

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<v Speaker 1>I get frustrated. You have the Democratic Party which is

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<v Speaker 1>barely hanging onto its majority because you have people like

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<v Speaker 1>Cinema and Mansion and other que quote regressionists in the House,

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<v Speaker 1>not unified. Meanwhile, McConnell and the right wing, they whip

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<v Speaker 1>him into shape when it comes to the culture or

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<v Speaker 1>even Mitt Romney refuses to raise the dead selling you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's allegedly the colone quote moderate. And so it's so

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<v Speaker 1>frustrating that the majority is hijacked by a minority. We're

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<v Speaker 1>running out of time, we don't have the resources. Multiple fires,

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<v Speaker 1>multiple crises, and this is where Steve benn and won

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<v Speaker 1>flood the zone with shit. Now deal with the shit,

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<v Speaker 1>Mit Daniel, what shit do you want to deal with? First?

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<v Speaker 1>Climate change, income inequality, build back better, the January sixth insurrection,

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<v Speaker 1>voter suppression. You tell me what's the number one on

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<v Speaker 1>your list? You know, see, And that is such a

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<v Speaker 1>good that is such a good question, because one you

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<v Speaker 1>just gave us, you know, a partridge in a pear

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<v Speaker 1>tree of all the things that are fucking wrong and

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<v Speaker 1>are right. If I am Biden, right, if I if

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<v Speaker 1>I am the President of the United States, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>saying to me after that litany of things that are wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>things that are broken. First of all, I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know why the man ran for the job in the

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<v Speaker 1>first place, because I would run from it, not run

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<v Speaker 1>for it. Voting. Voting, to me, has got to be

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<v Speaker 1>number one because if to your point, if we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the huge margins necessary in order to get things done,

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<v Speaker 1>because we have two regressionists, right that are marauding as

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<v Speaker 1>if they are Democrats, but we know, good god damn

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<v Speaker 1>well that they are not. They're bought and paid like

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<v Speaker 1>by the pharmaceutical companies, by goal by just name it right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I continue to say this on social media as well,

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<v Speaker 1>to follow the money right, like why isn't Christen Cinema

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<v Speaker 1>talking to anybody? Why is Joe Manchin the only one

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<v Speaker 1>that is always in front of a microphone? Look at

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<v Speaker 1>their bank accounts, look and see where they're getting their

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<v Speaker 1>money from. But again, if I am dealing with all

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<v Speaker 1>of these problems, I'm going after voting because if I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the large enough margins, if people are not

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<v Speaker 1>able to show up and express their frustrations at the polls,

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<v Speaker 1>and none of these members are going to be held

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<v Speaker 1>accountable for their in action and their obstructionism, then I

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<v Speaker 1>can't get anything else done. I'm not passing infrastructure, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not passing a climate change bill. I'm not doing any

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that the American people say that they

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<v Speaker 1>desperately need. But for you, if you is what is

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<v Speaker 1>number one? For you? Yeah? So I wrote an article

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<v Speaker 1>about this with the Daily ABUSA couple months ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you have to nuke the filibuster, right, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>nuke could get rid of it. It's over, It's done

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<v Speaker 1>because of philibuster. Is this archaic relic of the Jim

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<v Speaker 1>Crow era that has been used predominantly by McConnell Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>to turn this sent into a graveyard. Just obstructionism. Nothing's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get done. If you get rid of the filibuster,

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<v Speaker 1>you got the fifty fifty, you can get Kamala to

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<v Speaker 1>come in as a tiebreaker, and you can pass a

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<v Speaker 1>John Lewis Voting Rights Act. Right, you can pass all

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<v Speaker 1>these bills that will strengthen voting, that will be a

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<v Speaker 1>buffer against these voter suppression bills across the nation, which

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<v Speaker 1>you buy it the way or even unpopular with Republican voters.

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<v Speaker 1>See that's where you have to gop flexes its muscle.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, we don't even care if our voters don't

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<v Speaker 1>like this. Hell, we'll even kill our voters for the

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<v Speaker 1>culture war. And you're dealing with this nihilistic movement. But

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately you said, we have mansion in Cinema were bought

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<v Speaker 1>and paid. I personally think Chris Cinema will tank it

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<v Speaker 1>all for christ and Cinema. People say, oh, eventually, if

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<v Speaker 1>she'll come around. I'm like, I don't buy it. People say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>she has to run for reelection, maybe she doesn't, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>she's a one term a dollar she goes. I'm out, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but what what what? People say? No? No, And I

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<v Speaker 1>think this is the analysis which with why people see

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<v Speaker 1>rose colored glasses of an America that doesn't exist, and

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<v Speaker 1>white people of color have called it out consistently, especially

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<v Speaker 1>for the past five years, is because we have experienced

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<v Speaker 1>both the American dream and the American nightmare. We have

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<v Speaker 1>seen the unfairness of it all, the hypocracy of it all.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, my people experienced the war and terror black people,

0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I've been experiencing the war in terror since forever. Latinos

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<v Speaker 1>get it, and so we say Yeah, this country can

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<v Speaker 1>turn on you on a dime. The people who are

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be the gatekeepers can be perverse and corrupted.

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<v Speaker 1>The guardrails won't be in place if they get bent

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<v Speaker 1>by the people who don't care about the guardrails, whill

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<v Speaker 1>remove it, right, And so we're saying, oh, you know

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump will be regulated by the Republican Party. We said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>he won't. Oh, the right wing movement will be moderated. Nope,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna get fascistic. That's what I said. And lo

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<v Speaker 1>and behold that's where we are, and we still haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>Really the fundamental problem is those folks in power, and

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<v Speaker 1>I really mean this, they still feel that they'll be protected.

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<v Speaker 1>They have sex with these people, they drink with these people,

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<v Speaker 1>they party with these people. Oh, they invite me to

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<v Speaker 1>the country club. Behind the scenes, they're moderate, they go

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<v Speaker 1>to my same church. You know, let's be honest. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a very incestuous ecosystem with big money media, and they

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<v Speaker 1>think we'll be fine. They won't come after me. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know them the way I know them. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's this type of human, if you will, subjectivity that

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<v Speaker 1>blinds them to the reality that they're witnessing in front

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<v Speaker 1>of us. Meanwhile, the rest of us don't have that privilege.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't get invite to those cocktail parties. We're like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>these policies affect our communities. We know white supremacy, we

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<v Speaker 1>know what's coming down the pipeline. You're gonna take this seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think they're gonna take it seriously. I

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<v Speaker 1>think imagine in cinema they're gonna get rich. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>do they won't do what's necessary. They won't do what's needed.

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<v Speaker 1>It's staring you right in the face. I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>If it was me, I would whip them up, you know, Pelosi, Biden, Schumer.

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<v Speaker 1>But they can't. They don't have the power kill the

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<v Speaker 1>fullibuster pass Voting Rights Act. We have one year left

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<v Speaker 1>of the twenty twenty two mid terms, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>can do that what you want, then what I would

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<v Speaker 1>do is say, Merrick Garland, you were appointed for a reason.

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<v Speaker 1>The Justice Apartment is here. You need to flex, and

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<v Speaker 1>you need to flex now. I want subpoenas, and if

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<v Speaker 1>they reject the subpoenas, I want you to flex, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to punish them. I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>find them, jail them, do what you would do to

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<v Speaker 1>poor black and brown people. Come on, that is it

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