Speaker 1: Good morning, peet's and welcome to okay EP Daily with
Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording live from our podstream
Speaker 1: studios in Times Square. Folks, I just want us to
Speaker 1: remember that it has been nine months, nine months since
Speaker 1: the insurrection, and not one fucking indictment has come down
Speaker 1: from the Department of Justice. Nine months, and we are
Speaker 1: still looking for people who have posted that they were
Speaker 1: at the insurrection on social media. I just you know,
Speaker 1: coming up in my interview with our friend was Jahat Alive.
Speaker 1: The Daily Beast columnist Wash says this, you know what
Speaker 1: we just want. We want that the Justice Department and
Speaker 1: the criminal justice system would treat Trump and all his
Speaker 1: accolades as badly as they treat black and brown innocent
Speaker 1: people right like, for low level infractions. They throw the
Speaker 1: book at these people. You just saw just recently that
Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom, governor of California, decided that he was going
Speaker 1: to do away with mandatory minimum sentencing because of how
Speaker 1: it outside, how it harms right black and brown people
Speaker 1: the most. So again, why is it that we will
Speaker 1: throw the book at low level black and brown people,
Speaker 1: low level drug offenders, but we won't do the same
Speaker 1: for white collar quote unquote white collar crimes that threaten
Speaker 1: our fucking democracy and the future stake that we have
Speaker 1: on the global stage. I'm just I'm so outdone by this.
Speaker 1: I'm tired of the reports, I'm tired of the talking
Speaker 1: heads in the commentary around this, and I want to
Speaker 1: know where the fucking action is. You know, every week
Speaker 1: we have Glenn Kirshner join us I MSNBC legal analysts
Speaker 1: and host of Justice Matters talk about the fact that, yes,
Speaker 1: you know, the Justice Department does not work as fast
Speaker 1: as we would like them to, and oftentimes we don't
Speaker 1: know exactly what it is that they are working on.
Speaker 1: But I would tell you that to ensure that people
Speaker 1: do not lose faith in our democracy and do not
Speaker 1: lose faith and hope in our agencies, namely the Department
Speaker 1: of Justice, they may want to issue some fucking statements
Speaker 1: that allow us to see that they are working on
Speaker 1: behalf of securing our democracy and not just holding up
Speaker 1: institutional ideals. I you know, I think that at some
Speaker 1: point in time, at some point in time, you know,
Speaker 1: in the not too distant future, in the shambles right
Speaker 1: of our democracy, somebody will be listening to this podcast,
Speaker 1: and they'll say to themselves, you know, it was all
Speaker 1: so clear of the steps that needed to be taken
Speaker 1: and the action in order to secure our democracy and
Speaker 1: make sure that a fascist, authoritarian, white supremaist, misogynist, islamophobic, transphobic,
Speaker 1: homophobic piece of shit wouldn't become president of the United
Speaker 1: States again. But you know, they just decided not to
Speaker 1: not to end the filibuster, not to actually work on
Speaker 1: behalf of the American people, and just roll the dice.
Speaker 1: You know, we talk often on this show about the
Speaker 1: fact that essentially we're all just playing Russian roulette, right
Speaker 1: The anti vaxers and the anti maskers and all of
Speaker 1: these people are just friends paying just Russian roulette with
Speaker 1: their lives. But you see, our Congress right now, which
Speaker 1: is controlled by the Democrats, is playing Russian Roulette with
Speaker 1: our democracy by not securing vote rights, by not going
Speaker 1: after those that actually break the law in broad fucking daylight.
Speaker 1: Because what you don't want to set what you believe
Speaker 1: to be a partisan president of investigating a former president
Speaker 1: even though he was twice fucking impeached. This man, dear friends,
Speaker 1: he is running for office again in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: If he is not placed in goddamn fucking handcuffs in
Speaker 1: the next two years, this man is going to run
Speaker 1: and most likely win again. Not win because I believe
Speaker 1: that that many Americans are going to vote for him,
Speaker 1: but win because our vote will no longer fucking matter.
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what state Republican officials are hoping and
Speaker 1: banking on. We are getting ready to aform an American
Speaker 1: apartheid system where the minority is going to have rule
Speaker 1: over the majority, not just in Congress, but in the
Speaker 1: courts as well. And then they'll get the executive branch,
Speaker 1: and you know what, Republicans will hold power for the
Speaker 1: next twenty thirty, forty fifty years. Because the only way,
Speaker 1: the only direction that I see this going in, if
Speaker 1: we continue to see in action from our Department of Justice,
Speaker 1: is revolution. That's the only way that this is going
Speaker 1: to end. We are headed directly towards a civil war.
Speaker 1: And I don't say that as hyperbole. I say that
Speaker 1: as reality. You have Facebook and other social media entities
Speaker 1: that are doing nothing about misinformation. They are doing nothing
Speaker 1: about their platforms being used as organizing tools for hate
Speaker 1: groups right and militias. So you have that on one hand,
Speaker 1: then you have a Democratic controlled Congress that can't get
Speaker 1: their ship together to pass any type of legislation that
Speaker 1: is going to affect the daily lives of the American
Speaker 1: people and make sure that they secure our democracy on
Speaker 1: the other hand, and then you have a president that
Speaker 1: sits in the middle that believe that we're still operating
Speaker 1: the twentieth century, where he's going to solve these problems
Speaker 1: with a sit down summit over some fucking Scotch Wake
Speaker 1: the fuck up. I can think of nothing more urgent
Speaker 1: than securing our right to vote, because if we don't
Speaker 1: have that, then we're not going to have climate change legislation,
Speaker 1: We're not going to have infrastructure bills, we're not going
Speaker 1: to have a change right to ensure that all people
Speaker 1: that are able to birth can have an abortion if
Speaker 1: they need one. Everything that has come up over the
Speaker 1: past nine months has pointed to one thing only that
Speaker 1: our democracy is on life support. And frankly, the question
Speaker 1: that I'll ask Wag later is whether or not America
Speaker 1: is already dead and we're living in some type of
Speaker 1: dystopian fucking sixth cents where we're all walking around talking
Speaker 1: to each other and not realizing that we're just a
Speaker 1: bunch of apparitions, just a bunch of ghosts of democracy's past.
Speaker 1: Fiona Hill outlined very clearly, very starkly, very stoically in
Speaker 1: our testimony in Donald Trump's first impeachment that you need
Speaker 1: look no further than modern day Russia to see the
Speaker 1: direction that the United States is headed in. You need
Speaker 1: look no further into the fact that the upcoming CEPAC
Speaker 1: Conservative Conference is going to be held in Hungary because
Speaker 1: they believe that hungry, right, a country that doesn't have
Speaker 1: real elections, right, they perform democracy, but it's a theater trick.
Speaker 1: It is not something that actually has power driven for
Speaker 1: and by the people. But that's where they're having their
Speaker 1: next convention. So they are telling you all that they
Speaker 1: are doing. They are telling you the dictators that they
Speaker 1: believe in and want to hold up as a model
Speaker 1: for the future of America. And we're all just sitting
Speaker 1: around pretending that Biden can do all things when he
Speaker 1: can barely get his agenda fucking past because he put
Speaker 1: too much faith in the fact that everyone else was
Speaker 1: going to want to do the quote unquote right thing.
Speaker 1: No one does because at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: What rules us is greed. What rules us is the
Speaker 1: desire or the proximity to power. And like I said
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, right on election night, that this was
Speaker 1: going to be white supremacy's last stand. But white supremacy
Speaker 1: is not going down without a motherfucking fight. They have
Speaker 1: the courts, which is where all of us have received
Speaker 1: any of the rights that we have. Now, it didn't
Speaker 1: happen through policy. It happened through laws. It happened through
Speaker 1: the court system. It happened through hard battles. And now
Speaker 1: they own the courts because Democrats decided not to talk
Speaker 1: about that. They don't even want to have conversations about
Speaker 1: the expansion of the Supreme Court because they think somehow
Speaker 1: it's set in stone, the number nine. It's not. When
Speaker 1: you think see that things are radically shifting in this
Speaker 1: country at a pace that is neck break, then you
Speaker 1: have to make radical choices. You have to be willing
Speaker 1: to risk losing position, to being risk losing popularity in
Speaker 1: order to get the right things done. But we are
Speaker 1: living in a system where people are more concerned with
Speaker 1: adding money to their pockets, more concerned with their little
Speaker 1: fiefdoms than they are about collective and that's what began
Speaker 1: right with the Tea Party that we all again wanted
Speaker 1: to laugh off. That's what begat the tribalism right was
Speaker 1: this idea that we are going to coalesce around a lie,
Speaker 1: a lie that Barack Obama wasn't an American, a lie
Speaker 1: that he didn't have claim to the presidency because he
Speaker 1: was black, and because we refuse to face the truth
Speaker 1: of white supremacy in this country and how it is
Speaker 1: a part of every fucking agency and institution. We are
Speaker 1: at this place. You know, Wash will say later that
Speaker 1: he believes at this moment was inevitable right that we
Speaker 1: were going to get to a point where our democracy
Speaker 1: was not just going to bend, that it would in
Speaker 1: fact break. He believes that there's still time, and I'm
Speaker 1: saying to you, I don't know that there is. We
Speaker 1: have a handful of months until we begin campaigning for
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two midterm cycle. We have at fifty
Speaker 1: margin in the Senate, we have a razor thin edge
Speaker 1: up in the House. But you see, Republicans don't have
Speaker 1: to run on anything. That's what they showed us back
Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty election. They didn't even bother running
Speaker 1: on a platform. They said, Oh, we'll just you know,
Speaker 1: rerun the same ship from twenty sixteen. Friends, We have
Speaker 1: a deep problem here. We have a crisis. A constitutional
Speaker 1: crisis was not averted because a couple of people in
Speaker 1: the Justice Department did the right thing in the moment.
Speaker 1: We're in the midst of a constitutional crisis. We're in
Speaker 1: the midst of a moral crisis. We're in the midst
Speaker 1: of a crisis of conscience in this country. And I
Speaker 1: don't know who sees the urgency of now, because I
Speaker 1: don't think that the current makeup of folks in Congress do.
Speaker 1: I don't think that the current administration does, because nobody
Speaker 1: is screaming from the rafters saying, look, folks, the comment
Speaker 1: is coming. We are in armageddon. This is deep impact.
Speaker 1: And it isn't aliens or comments that are going to
Speaker 1: take us out. It is in action and apathy. Coming
Speaker 1: up next, dear friends, is my conversation with wasajahat Ali,
Speaker 1: the columnist at the Daily Beast. He is a friend
Speaker 1: and he has so many thoughts. He makes me feel
Speaker 1: less crazy. So I hope that you enjoy that conversation. Friends.
Speaker 1: I am so happy to welcome back to woke. A
Speaker 1: f daily friend and colleague and Daily Beast columnists was
Speaker 1: Jahat Ali to discuss Guess what, folks, the nine month
Speaker 1: anniversary of the attempted coup to overthrow the government by
Speaker 1: Donald Trump and his fellow fascist was. You know, we
Speaker 1: just learned this week as well, which I'm sure is
Speaker 1: not an accident of timing, that the Senate Judiciary Committee
Speaker 1: had a three hundred and ninety four page report outlining
Speaker 1: all the ways in which Bill Barr, Mark Meadows, Donald
Speaker 1: Trump and others worked to try and get the Department
Speaker 1: of Justice to say that there was fraud in the
Speaker 1: election in order to subvert our democracy and keep Donald
Speaker 1: Trump in power. It's been nine months since the insurrection
Speaker 1: right this week, and not one of those people have
Speaker 1: been indicted. And also we have heard that the people
Speaker 1: that have been called upon by the one six Commission
Speaker 1: to be subpoenad and be under oath, Steve Bannon, Cashpital
Speaker 1: and and others have decided, you know what, they think
Speaker 1: that the subpoenas by Congress are a suggestion that they
Speaker 1: would rather not RSVP four. What is going on? Yeah, So,
Speaker 1: what we're witnessing is the rough draft of an insurrection,
Speaker 1: a failed first copy that will be rinsedon, repeated, and
Speaker 1: perfected in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty four. And
Speaker 1: people say, oh, you're you're just being hysterical. I was
Speaker 1: just having a conversation with someone. They said, oh, you
Speaker 1: were just being hysterical and reactionary. But all the stuff
Speaker 1: that you and your colleagues, oftentimes people of color were
Speaker 1: seeing for the past four or five years turn out
Speaker 1: to be true, even the effort fa fascism that you use.
Speaker 1: I was so happy to hear it. I wrote a
Speaker 1: couple of articles and tweets about it, and people like, oh,
Speaker 1: you've gone too far. I had to make the pitch
Speaker 1: to use the word fascism even a year ago. This
Speaker 1: is why you have to really make the case for it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's the case. This is what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: This is when Trump was in office, right, and this
Speaker 1: is the future we're going to see is minority rule
Speaker 1: to establish white Christian suprem see. And it's gonna be
Speaker 1: an authoritarian government with the veneer of democracy putin, for example,
Speaker 1: wins elections. No one's gonna say it's a democracy but
Speaker 1: he wins elections. You know, Pustinia Bobari, the dictator of
Speaker 1: Egypt one elections, Victor orbon Is Quoe unquote president of Hungary,
Speaker 1: a hungry of the country which they love. Right now
Speaker 1: the model for Trucker Carlson where they're gonna have sepack
Speaker 1: the Annual Consertive Action political conference is going to be
Speaker 1: in Hungary right like there's there's like a Defcon three,
Speaker 1: Defcon two probably happening right now. But Steve Bennett did
Speaker 1: something I'm gonna give him credit. Flood the zone with shit.
Speaker 1: That was his strategy. If you flood the zone with shit,
Speaker 1: you leave people confused, you leave people overwhelmed, you're able
Speaker 1: to move the Overton window of what's acceptable and not acceptable.
Speaker 1: You're supposed to you're you're supposed to numb the people.
Speaker 1: There's just too many crisis what to believe, what not
Speaker 1: to believe in our media establishment. Let's be honest in
Speaker 1: this incestuous ecosystem where everyone's buddy buddy, and everyone has
Speaker 1: to call balls and strikes, and everyone has the view
Speaker 1: from nowhere. Oftentimes many white gate keepers, because it doesn't
Speaker 1: affect them, they say no, no, no, we have to
Speaker 1: do both sides. There's no both sides here. We have
Speaker 1: one side that is aggressively trying to subvert democracy through
Speaker 1: a coup another word that you use that I'm so
Speaker 1: glad that you used, and the other side, which is, yes, flawed,
Speaker 1: but at least it's trying to be adults and raise
Speaker 1: the dead ceiling to keep the government function. And so
Speaker 1: what do you do when the entire conservative ecosystem, not
Speaker 1: just the elected officials, but Fox News, which is celebrating
Speaker 1: his twenty fifth anniversary this week, and also the podcast,
Speaker 1: and also the strategists and also the lawyers are hell
Speaker 1: bent on minority rule. You're going to have a constitutional
Speaker 1: crisis and you're going to have most likely a civil
Speaker 1: war in this country. And the Justice Department, which should
Speaker 1: be aggressive af right now, has not arrested anybody. So
Speaker 1: to answer your question, I echo your frustration because that
Speaker 1: was my first tweet when this report came out, and
Speaker 1: I tweeted, I'm like, how come nobody's in jail? And
Speaker 1: that tweet kind of went viral and everyone was like,
Speaker 1: that's a very good question. I guess we should just
Speaker 1: be black and brown, unarmed protesters protesting officers Chauvin, you know,
Speaker 1: choking George Floyd to death. And then maybe then these
Speaker 1: people will take it seriously. I mean, I could find
Speaker 1: it absolutely shocking and disgusting that, first of all, the
Speaker 1: longest sentence that we have seen come out of the
Speaker 1: insurrectionists was it's four months. That's the longest goddamn sentence
Speaker 1: that we have seen, right for two thousand people breaking
Speaker 1: into the Capitol building, building a guilty and on the
Speaker 1: steps of the Capitol saying and chanting that they wanted
Speaker 1: to hang Mike Pence, defecating in the halls of our democracy.
Speaker 1: We have it on every goddamn video, every goddamn angle
Speaker 1: we have seen that. We heard testimony from four police
Speaker 1: officers right from the Capitol Police and DC Metropolitan Police
Speaker 1: talking about the trauma of that day. We've had police
Speaker 1: officers commit suicide following right the insurrection, and yet to
Speaker 1: your point, to your tweet, why isn't anybody in jail?
Speaker 1: And I'm not just talking about the people that were
Speaker 1: on the steps that day. I'm talking about the people
Speaker 1: that were on the dias at the stop, the Steel rally,
Speaker 1: the Juliani's right, the Josh Hollies that wanted to give
Speaker 1: a fist the Donald Trumps that talked about one six
Speaker 1: being wild. How is it that Congress has the time
Speaker 1: to put together three hundred and ninety some odd page report,
Speaker 1: and yet I'm wondering whether or not they're going to
Speaker 1: even support even enforce the subpoenas. Right, I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: so outraged. I feel like, so I've said this before,
Speaker 1: the Democrats bring a pencil to a knife fight, and
Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell brings a bazooka, and who's gonna win ten
Speaker 1: out of ten times? At the same time, you want to,
Speaker 1: you know, go high, like Michelle said, but you need
Speaker 1: some brawlers. The problem is is when you have structural
Speaker 1: deficiencies where we have a fifty fifty Senate and the
Speaker 1: fifty Democrats represent nearly forty million more Americans, and yet
Speaker 1: it's still fifty fifty. You have the electoral College, you
Speaker 1: have massive voter suppression bier Republicans, you have jerrymandering, and
Speaker 1: you literally have one entire gop ecosystem that has held
Speaker 1: bent on obstructionism. Casement point. As we're recording this, we
Speaker 1: just got a small reprief to December for the dead
Speaker 1: ceiling but they're literally hijacking the nation because they have
Speaker 1: admitted Centator till Us admitted it. We will run great
Speaker 1: ads on this in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty
Speaker 1: four that look at the Democrats, Look how much they
Speaker 1: spend so much money. Yeah, because you're not raising the
Speaker 1: dead ceiling for this country to pay off the debts
Speaker 1: incurred under Donald Trump's administration. So you're dealing with nihilists,
Speaker 1: this pro death nihilist movement that is attacking masks, attacking vaccines,
Speaker 1: attacking science, all for their culture work. On the Democratic side,
Speaker 1: you have this unweeling group that is trying to get
Speaker 1: together a diverse coalition, but we are fed because we
Speaker 1: have these coone core moderates. I hate to call them moderates,
Speaker 1: their obstruction. I was gonna say they are And you
Speaker 1: know what, there is a doctor abdul l say ed um,
Speaker 1: he refers to them. He said, no, they're not, They're
Speaker 1: not even there were. They're regressionist, right yea, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm fine with the regressionist. I'll take it. So so
Speaker 1: you have so this if we just like, let's give
Speaker 1: Biden to put myself in Biden's shoes and democratsrihoes for
Speaker 1: a second. This is what you're dealing with, a pandemic
Speaker 1: that has killed more than seven hundred thousand people because
Speaker 1: Donald Trump failed and lied to the American people. Let's
Speaker 1: be honest, trying to reopen America. But you have this
Speaker 1: right wing fringe nut now literally invoking violence upon school
Speaker 1: teachers and physicians. You have a recession, you have this
Speaker 1: debt ceiling. You have obstructionist Republicans. You got Republicans who
Speaker 1: refuse to even take part in a bipartisan commission in
Speaker 1: which this mob tried to kill them and the Vice
Speaker 1: President Mike Pence, and you have massive voter suppression, and
Speaker 1: you have corruption and by the way, you have a
Speaker 1: propaganda network that refuses to be honest and is disinforming people.
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, you have one year to
Speaker 1: pull it off, Danielle, because you have a razor thin
Speaker 1: margin in the House, and according to all the data
Speaker 1: and the stats and historical trends and voter suppression and jerrymandering,
Speaker 1: Republicans isn't going to take the House and most likely
Speaker 1: the Senate. And so just to like, you know, when
Speaker 1: you get so frustrated and people get so frustrated, and
Speaker 1: I get frustrated. You have the Democratic Party which is
Speaker 1: barely hanging onto its majority because you have people like
Speaker 1: Cinema and Mansion and other que quote regressionists in the House,
Speaker 1: not unified. Meanwhile, McConnell and the right wing, they whip
Speaker 1: him into shape when it comes to the culture or
Speaker 1: even Mitt Romney refuses to raise the dead selling you know,
Speaker 1: he's allegedly the colone quote moderate. And so it's so
Speaker 1: frustrating that the majority is hijacked by a minority. We're
Speaker 1: running out of time, we don't have the resources. Multiple fires,
Speaker 1: multiple crises, and this is where Steve benn and won
Speaker 1: flood the zone with shit. Now deal with the shit,
Speaker 1: Mit Daniel, what shit do you want to deal with? First?
Speaker 1: Climate change, income inequality, build back better, the January sixth insurrection,
Speaker 1: voter suppression. You tell me what's the number one on
Speaker 1: your list? You know, see, And that is such a
Speaker 1: good that is such a good question, because one you
Speaker 1: just gave us, you know, a partridge in a pear
Speaker 1: tree of all the things that are fucking wrong and
Speaker 1: are right. If I am Biden, right, if I if
Speaker 1: I am the President of the United States, and you're
Speaker 1: saying to me after that litany of things that are wrong,
Speaker 1: things that are broken. First of all, I don't even
Speaker 1: know why the man ran for the job in the
Speaker 1: first place, because I would run from it, not run
Speaker 1: for it. Voting. Voting, to me, has got to be
Speaker 1: number one because if to your point, if we don't
Speaker 1: have the huge margins necessary in order to get things done,
Speaker 1: because we have two regressionists, right that are marauding as
Speaker 1: if they are Democrats, but we know, good god damn
Speaker 1: well that they are not. They're bought and paid like
Speaker 1: by the pharmaceutical companies, by goal by just name it right,
Speaker 1: And I continue to say this on social media as well,
Speaker 1: to follow the money right, like why isn't Christen Cinema
Speaker 1: talking to anybody? Why is Joe Manchin the only one
Speaker 1: that is always in front of a microphone? Look at
Speaker 1: their bank accounts, look and see where they're getting their
Speaker 1: money from. But again, if I am dealing with all
Speaker 1: of these problems, I'm going after voting because if I
Speaker 1: don't have the large enough margins, if people are not
Speaker 1: able to show up and express their frustrations at the polls,
Speaker 1: and none of these members are going to be held
Speaker 1: accountable for their in action and their obstructionism, then I
Speaker 1: can't get anything else done. I'm not passing infrastructure, I'm
Speaker 1: not passing a climate change bill. I'm not doing any
Speaker 1: of the things that the American people say that they
Speaker 1: desperately need. But for you, if you is what is
Speaker 1: number one? For you? Yeah? So I wrote an article
Speaker 1: about this with the Daily ABUSA couple months ago, and
Speaker 1: I said, you have to nuke the filibuster, right, I said,
Speaker 1: nuke could get rid of it. It's over, It's done
Speaker 1: because of philibuster. Is this archaic relic of the Jim
Speaker 1: Crow era that has been used predominantly by McConnell Republicans
Speaker 1: to turn this sent into a graveyard. Just obstructionism. Nothing's
Speaker 1: gonna get done. If you get rid of the filibuster,
Speaker 1: you got the fifty fifty, you can get Kamala to
Speaker 1: come in as a tiebreaker, and you can pass a
Speaker 1: John Lewis Voting Rights Act. Right, you can pass all
Speaker 1: these bills that will strengthen voting, that will be a
Speaker 1: buffer against these voter suppression bills across the nation, which
Speaker 1: you buy it the way or even unpopular with Republican voters.
Speaker 1: See that's where you have to gop flexes its muscle.
Speaker 1: They're like, we don't even care if our voters don't
Speaker 1: like this. Hell, we'll even kill our voters for the
Speaker 1: culture war. And you're dealing with this nihilistic movement. But
Speaker 1: unfortunately you said, we have mansion in Cinema were bought
Speaker 1: and paid. I personally think Chris Cinema will tank it
Speaker 1: all for christ and Cinema. People say, oh, eventually, if
Speaker 1: she'll come around. I'm like, I don't buy it. People say, oh,
Speaker 1: she has to run for reelection, maybe she doesn't, maybe
Speaker 1: she's a one term a dollar she goes. I'm out, yeah,
Speaker 1: but what what what? People say? No? No, And I
Speaker 1: think this is the analysis which with why people see
Speaker 1: rose colored glasses of an America that doesn't exist, and
Speaker 1: white people of color have called it out consistently, especially
Speaker 1: for the past five years, is because we have experienced
Speaker 1: both the American dream and the American nightmare. We have
Speaker 1: seen the unfairness of it all, the hypocracy of it all.
Speaker 1: You know, my people experienced the war and terror black people,
Speaker 1: I've been experiencing the war in terror since forever. Latinos
Speaker 1: get it, and so we say Yeah, this country can
Speaker 1: turn on you on a dime. The people who are
Speaker 1: supposed to be the gatekeepers can be perverse and corrupted.
Speaker 1: The guardrails won't be in place if they get bent
Speaker 1: by the people who don't care about the guardrails, whill
Speaker 1: remove it, right, And so we're saying, oh, you know
Speaker 1: Donald Trump will be regulated by the Republican Party. We said, no,
Speaker 1: he won't. Oh, the right wing movement will be moderated. Nope,
Speaker 1: it's gonna get fascistic. That's what I said. And lo
Speaker 1: and behold that's where we are, and we still haven't.
Speaker 1: Really the fundamental problem is those folks in power, and
Speaker 1: I really mean this, they still feel that they'll be protected.
Speaker 1: They have sex with these people, they drink with these people,
Speaker 1: they party with these people. Oh, they invite me to
Speaker 1: the country club. Behind the scenes, they're moderate, they go
Speaker 1: to my same church. You know, let's be honest. It's
Speaker 1: a very incestuous ecosystem with big money media, and they
Speaker 1: think we'll be fine. They won't come after me. Oh,
Speaker 1: you don't know them the way I know them. Right.
Speaker 1: It's this type of human, if you will, subjectivity that
Speaker 1: blinds them to the reality that they're witnessing in front
Speaker 1: of us. Meanwhile, the rest of us don't have that privilege.
Speaker 1: We don't get invite to those cocktail parties. We're like, no,
Speaker 1: these policies affect our communities. We know white supremacy, we
Speaker 1: know what's coming down the pipeline. You're gonna take this seriously.
Speaker 1: And I don't think they're gonna take it seriously. I
Speaker 1: think imagine in cinema they're gonna get rich. They don't
Speaker 1: do they won't do what's necessary. They won't do what's needed.
Speaker 1: It's staring you right in the face. I agree with you.
Speaker 1: If it was me, I would whip them up, you know, Pelosi, Biden, Schumer.
Speaker 1: But they can't. They don't have the power kill the
Speaker 1: fullibuster pass Voting Rights Act. We have one year left
Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty two mid terms, and if you
Speaker 1: can do that what you want, then what I would
Speaker 1: do is say, Merrick Garland, you were appointed for a reason.
Speaker 1: The Justice Apartment is here. You need to flex, and
Speaker 1: you need to flex now. I want subpoenas, and if
Speaker 1: they reject the subpoenas, I want you to flex, right.
Speaker 1: I want you to punish them. I want you to
Speaker 1: find them, jail them, do what you would do to
Speaker 1: poor black and brown people. Come on, that is it
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