WEBVTT - Celebrating the holidays music sampler

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast, play Good, celebrating the holidays with the Taken a

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<v Speaker 1>Walk podcast and celebrating our music friends. Well, Billy Payne,

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<v Speaker 1>it is so great to be with you taking a walk?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you my friend? You know, I feel good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been an intense month or so. It's the anniversary

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for Columbus Tour kind Disorder, right, Yeah, it's forty

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<v Speaker 1>five years, which is, you know, an interesting US a

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<v Speaker 1>way till fifty years. But I think I think choosing

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<v Speaker 1>forty five years is a good thing. I just turned

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<v Speaker 1>seventy three in March. I play like I'm a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>year old. But facts or facts, I love it. I

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<v Speaker 1>love how you're playing. I love how the band is playing.

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<v Speaker 1>So when did you first realize that you were hooked

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<v Speaker 1>on being a music Well, I think that's an excellent questions.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll twist it just a little bit and say that

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<v Speaker 1>I realized that I was a musician first when my

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<v Speaker 1>workshop teacher, mister O'Connell said, I'll give you a passing grade, Bill,

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<v Speaker 1>but stay away from the sauce. I was an iconic

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<v Speaker 1>photographer of our time. He didn't just capture the scene,

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<v Speaker 1>he was part of the scene. Bob grew and it's

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<v Speaker 1>so nice to meet you, and I'm glad to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. I went to the Pollo Theater for a

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<v Speaker 1>benefit concert and much toomuch said, was John Yoga over there?

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<v Speaker 1>And I took a couple of pictures when they were

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<v Speaker 1>on stage, and then they were waiting for their car backstage,

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<v Speaker 1>and a bunch of people were taking pictures, snapshots, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like selfies were calling now and John at one point said,

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<v Speaker 1>people are always taking our picture and we never see it.

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<v Speaker 1>What happens with these pictures? And I said, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>live around the corner from me. I'll show you my pictures.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said you live around the corner. I said yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, well slip them under the door then, and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was very neighborly, you know, And that

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<v Speaker 1>was our first conversation, if you call out a conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>When I went by the house, and I didn't quite

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<v Speaker 1>slip under the door, I rang the bell. Much to

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<v Speaker 1>my surprise, Jerry Rubin answered the door. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>he did that sort of thing, but he asked if

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<v Speaker 1>I was if they were expecting me, and I said no,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just left the pictures. And later when we

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<v Speaker 1>did get to friends. Joko mentioned that they were very

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<v Speaker 1>aware of that, like, who was that, who didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to meet us? Who just dropped something off? You know? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Henry Dilts, it's so great to be with you here

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<v Speaker 1>at Studio City taking a walk, yes, now crowded Ventura Boulevard,

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<v Speaker 1>that first Crosby Stills Nash session. How did all that

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<v Speaker 1>come together in that particular iconic album company. Gary Burton,

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<v Speaker 1>my graphic artist partner, and myself both knew these three guys.

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<v Speaker 1>We all know each other, especially in La. We all

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<v Speaker 1>hang out of the troubador. Everybody knew what was what

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<v Speaker 1>was going on, and we knew they were recording an

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<v Speaker 1>album together, you know, and they needed pictures. Nobody had

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<v Speaker 1>taken any pictures of them even to announce that they're

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<v Speaker 1>singing together. So Gary and I said, up, let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on. We're getting this old Ford station wagon fifty

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<v Speaker 1>something Ford station wagon and drive around La looking for

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<v Speaker 1>a little spots to take interesting photos. And we found

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<v Speaker 1>that little house. Graham had seen that house sometime earlier

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<v Speaker 1>and said, I know, there's this great little house around here.

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<v Speaker 1>And we found it and it was a couch in

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<v Speaker 1>front of it. They sat there, we took a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of pictures, and Gary said the other thing that he

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<v Speaker 1>said to me. The first thing was just shoot, everything

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen filmed the Juba part. Second thing he

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<v Speaker 1>always said to me was back up, back up, get

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<v Speaker 1>the whole house. That Gary could saw that that whole

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<v Speaker 1>house is interesting, and he said, back back up. I

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<v Speaker 1>backed up across the street and I could see them

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<v Speaker 1>on the couch at the bottom and the whole house

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<v Speaker 1>around them. And so that's how that happened. To story

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<v Speaker 1>with that is that they hadn't even named themselves yet,

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<v Speaker 1>so when they sat on the couch randomly, it happened

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<v Speaker 1>to be Nash Kills and Crosby. And then we looked

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<v Speaker 1>at that in a slide show a few days later,

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<v Speaker 1>it said, boy, someone said that would be a great

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<v Speaker 1>album cover. But we're in the wrong order because now

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<v Speaker 1>we just decided to be Causby filled in that that

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<v Speaker 1>rolls off the tom right. So I said, no problem,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just go back there. How long would it take

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<v Speaker 1>for you to jump on the couch in the right order.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go click, click click, we'll have the same shot

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<v Speaker 1>in the right order. And so we did a few

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<v Speaker 1>days later, gotten Gary's Ford station wagon drove back and

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<v Speaker 1>the house wasn't there with an empty lot. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of sticks in the back of the lot.

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<v Speaker 1>They bulldoed the whole thing down and made a parking

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<v Speaker 1>lot at them. So they're sitting in the wrong order.

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<v Speaker 1>And on that cover, La based singer, songwriter, multi instrumentalist

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<v Speaker 1>and producer Grace gosted, thank you so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>This is like the most unique, probably interview podcast experience

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever had. Take us back to the earliest point

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<v Speaker 1>you could remember where you knew and I've heard you

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<v Speaker 1>in other interviews describe this that you were going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a musician. Gosh, well, you know, there's two points

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<v Speaker 1>really that I speak about quite a bit, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think that the biggest one for me. I was riding

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<v Speaker 1>in the car with my dad and I heard Just

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<v Speaker 1>Dance for the first time by Lady Gaga and sort

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, this was in that same time period

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<v Speaker 1>where I Kissed a Girl by Katie Perry came out

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<v Speaker 1>and I was just getting exposure to like these big

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<v Speaker 1>pop sounds as big pop musicians, and I just remember

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<v Speaker 1>hearing that song and I listened to it four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>more time, and I announced to my parents that that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I was going to do. One day, I was like, Mom, Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be a pop star. And they were like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know sure, Danny Fields. It's so nice to be

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<v Speaker 1>taking a walk with you in the lovely West village. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that used to be a little more racy and avant

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<v Speaker 1>garde and experimental and young and gay and hold in

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<v Speaker 1>next century. This was a famous worker story. Okay, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>a little read. Wait, this is the best called to

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<v Speaker 1>see how the rep ricks Yep, he lived in that apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh he did after oh and one night after his concert.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of mind. Who brought home the tape

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<v Speaker 1>of the commons. I loved him very much, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying anything derogatory bout lovers. I never woulder. I

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<v Speaker 1>loved in Romich, and he was a three guy. We

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<v Speaker 1>put the tape on. The shows are a overt at all.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like one or two in the morning, and you

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<v Speaker 1>come by here. The windows were open. I swear the

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<v Speaker 1>speakers were pointed out. Who was listening? There is performance

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<v Speaker 1>earlier that night, and it's always everybody else within the

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<v Speaker 1>square mile I'm taking a walk with Yrma Calcane. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you touched on teaching, and you've been a teacher really

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<v Speaker 1>since the beginning of your career. Absolutely, So I moved

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<v Speaker 1>to California in nineteen sixty two, and I've been playing

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<v Speaker 1>the guitar for a while by that time, but but

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<v Speaker 1>just hanging out. And you know, I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>the University of Santa Clair at the time, and I'd

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<v Speaker 1>already become friends with Paul Canner, who got me in

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<v Speaker 1>the Jefferson airplane, which is another story, but but I

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<v Speaker 1>was just you know, I got I played it open

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<v Speaker 1>mics and stuff all the time, but you never got paid.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember Paul said, did you ever think about teaching?

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<v Speaker 1>And I went, no, what would I teach? And he said,

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<v Speaker 1>how about what you know? And I thought, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a bad idea. So he got me into

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<v Speaker 1>this little music store in San Jose and Stavi's Creek

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<v Speaker 1>Boulevard and I started teaching. And I taught well into

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<v Speaker 1>the first year of the airplane was together, and you

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<v Speaker 1>really took to it. I really enjoyed the process, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but was it really like seeing, you know, the glow

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<v Speaker 1>in somebody's eyes when they really connected with something. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you were chanting, absolutely, you know. Yeah. It wasn't just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, showing up and teaching some poor, hapless kid

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<v Speaker 1>who really didn't want to take piano lessons, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because everybody really wanted to learn. But yeah, seeing people

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<v Speaker 1>get it, it's still exciting. Taking a Walk with Buzznight

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