1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: This is the Bloomberg DAYBAC podcast. Good morning, It's Wednesday, 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 2: the seventeenth of December. I'm Caroline Hepkeitt in London and. 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 3: I'm Stephen Caroline Brussels. Coming up today, the US identifies 5 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 3: prominent European companies for potential retaliation over the way the 6 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 3: EU treats big tech firms. 7 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: President Trump says he is blocking all sanctioned oil tankers 8 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: from entering or leaving Venezuela. 9 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 3: Plus Jared Kushner's luxury dreams collide with political reality in 10 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 3: the Western Balkans. 11 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 2: Let's start with the roundup of our top stories. 12 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 3: The Trump administration is threatening retaliation against the EU in 13 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: response to efforts to regulate and tax American tech companies, 14 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: naming prominent European firms as potential targets. 15 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 4: Bloomberg's Uan Pots has. 16 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 5: More European efforts to crack down on big tech of 17 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 5: long being in the crossairs of the White House. Now, 18 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 5: the Office of the US Trade Representative says it has 19 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 5: no choice but to begin using every tool at its 20 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 5: disposal to counter what it calls the EU's unreasonable measures. 21 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 5: As issue of policies governing digital commerce, as well as 22 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 5: digital taxes imposed by individual countries. The role call of 23 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 5: European companies named for potential retaliation includes Accenture, Siemens, Spotify, DHL, 24 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 5: SAP and others. In response to the Commission says that 25 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 5: EU is an open market where rules apply equally and 26 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 5: fairly to all companies, but the tensions over tech regulation 27 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 5: and taxes look set to continue to hang over trade 28 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 5: negotiations in London. 29 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 4: I'm you in pots Spooberg Radio. 30 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: The price of crude oil has surged after President Trump 31 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: said that sanctioned oil tankers entering or leaving Venezuela would 32 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: be blockaded. Writing in a social media post, the US 33 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: leader added that he is also designating President Maduro's government 34 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: a foreign terrorist organization. It's an escalation of the Trump 35 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: administration's pressure on Maduro, who they accused of presiding over 36 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: a drug trafficking operation. Here is Bloomberg's oil reporter, Nicholas lua. 37 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 6: Heez threatened a blockade around Venezuela, and I think that's 38 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 6: a big deal because it represents an escalation on earlier 39 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 6: behavior hostile behavior between the US and Venezuela. The US 40 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 6: has earlier seized a oil tanker of Venezuela's cost and 41 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 6: as it is, things are very dicey, and now with 42 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 6: this new social media post and the threel of a 43 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 6: loca it thing, it looks like things are getting even disier. 44 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Nicholas Lewa speaking there, as the price of both 45 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 2: Brent and West Texas Intermediate both advanced from the lowest 46 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 2: level since twenty twenty one after the US President's comments. 47 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: Amazon has in talks to invest ten billion dollars or 48 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: more into open Ai in exchange for using its semiconductor chips. 49 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: Sources tell Bloomberg talks or at an early stage, but 50 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: the deal could value open Ai at more than half 51 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 3: a trillion dollars. In recent months, Wall Street have started 52 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 3: raising alarm bells about the scale of investment into the 53 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 3: AI space and whether it might be a bobble. Representatives 54 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: for open Ai and Amazon declined to comment. 55 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 2: Britain's labor government passed its flagship workers' rights package in 56 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 2: a major win for the party's left wing. The bill 57 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: entitled workers to stronger protection from unfair dismissal, sick pay, 58 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: and parental leave from day one at a new job 59 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: and empowers trade unions. Business Minister Kate Diden says it 60 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: marks the biggest overhaul of workers rise in Britain in 61 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: a generation. 62 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: Really really crowd there. As a government, we are delivering 63 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: this and really delighted that we are now out of 64 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: the parliamentary process and heading towards royal sense so we 65 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: can deliver for millions of working people across this country 66 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: and upgrade workers rights so it's fit for the twenty 67 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: first century. 68 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: Did and took over the bill after former Deputy Prime 69 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: Minister Angela Rayner resigned from government in the Autumnoi attack scandal. 70 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: Rainer is widely seen is a potential successor to Prime 71 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: minis a kiss starmer, and this bill was her flagship 72 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 2: piece of legislation. 73 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 3: Britain is sticking to ambitious electric vehicle targets right at 74 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 3: the point where carmakers decide where to invest in their 75 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 3: next factories. The EU announced plans to water down it's 76 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 3: combustion engine phase out planned yesterday. Bloomberg's Climate reporter John 77 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 3: Ainger says it's a bid to protect industry. 78 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 7: The mood music in Europe, I think has really changed 79 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 7: over the last couple of years. Or so, and there's 80 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 7: been a big push to focus on safeguarding industry and 81 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 7: of industry. Car makers, particularly those in Germany and also 82 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 7: the parts manufacturers that supply all the elements needed to 83 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 7: make cars have really they've really raised like the red flag. 84 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 7: They say that the market is not ready. 85 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 3: British consumers have embraced evs faster than other European countries, 86 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: but with the EU still being the main export market 87 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 3: for British cars, any split in rules adds uncertainty at 88 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 3: a sensitive moment. 89 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 2: Un present, Immanuel macart has told The Financial Times that 90 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: he believes tariffs on Chinese exports would be uncooperative. Writing 91 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: in an op ed, the French leader argued against using 92 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: tariffs and quotas to address the trade imbalance between the 93 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: world's second largest economy and the EU. Macro, however, said 94 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,679 Speaker 2: that rebalancing is still quote urgently needed, and he called 95 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 2: for measures to be taken on both sides. He added 96 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 2: that the EU must address competitiveness concerns and foster innovation 97 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: at home, while China should move towards a more favorable 98 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 2: fiscal policy to promote its domestic spending and bolster investment 99 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: in Europe. 100 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 4: Those are your top stories on the markets. 101 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 3: The msciosh Pacific Index is currently up by three tenths 102 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: of one percent, European stock futures pointing a little higher, 103 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 3: up by a ten for euro stocks fifty. At the moment, 104 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 3: we're keeping an eye on those oil prices brankcrewed one 105 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 3: point four percent higher, just below the sixty dollars a 106 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 3: barrel still though the Bloomberg Dollar Spot Index two tenths 107 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 3: stronger the euros two tenth weeker at one seventeen twenty eight. 108 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 2: Now in a moment, we'll bring you more on the 109 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: latest spike intentions between the US and the EU, plus 110 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 2: why Jared Kushner's big real estate projects in the Western 111 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 2: Balkans are colliding with the realities of doing business in 112 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: the region. But before that, another story is caught all 113 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: right today, how much are you willing to pay for 114 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 2: your coffee? 115 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 3: Stephen caroll Well, I mean, it's a question that I 116 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,559 Speaker 3: think a lot of people have been thinking about because 117 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 3: of the all of the reporting around the high price 118 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 3: of the commodity coffee. I suppose due to climate and 119 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 3: other issues as well that have made for poor harvest 120 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 3: and hitting supplies too. But our reporters Harry Black and 121 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 3: Lena Pang have been talking about how this is actually 122 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 3: affecting the coffee drinkers and looking at the changing habits 123 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 3: that people are, I suppose, adapting to this new trend, 124 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 3: like making coffee more at home. For example, They point 125 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 3: to a city group survey from trees around the world 126 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 3: from the US to Thailand showing that thirty seven percent 127 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 3: of people are making more coffee at home, and those 128 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 3: that aren't already doing so two thirds of them said 129 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 3: that they plan to in the next twelve months. As 130 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 3: well as the sales of coffee machines, there are people 131 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 3: are buying more order to home beans, for example in 132 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: the US, it's meant more people going to drive through locations. 133 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 4: Where it's cheaper to buy a cup of coffee too. 134 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 3: But I suppose that the take The part that I'm 135 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 3: taking away from this is that people aren't giving up 136 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 3: coffee because it's more expensive. They're just choosing different ways 137 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: to try and source it, which I think is probably 138 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 3: a bit concerning. At the same time, kind of this 139 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 3: is your big moment, does lobby everyone to move to tea? 140 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. My countertops in my kitchen is totally clear. 141 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: Does this mean I'm going to end up with a massive, 142 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: fancy coffee machine I have resisted so far. Yeah, I'm 143 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: not a coffee drinker. Anyone who comes into the radio 144 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: studio in London knows that it's al grade tea. Yes, 145 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: you have to join me. Lovely story though, But it's 146 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 2: not just coffee, is it. I mean there are other 147 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: commodities that have risen in price. I mean, I'm far 148 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 2: more fascinated by the rise in cocoa beam prices. 149 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 4: This affects me much more. 150 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 3: I think exactly if you were chocolate decorations on the 151 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 3: Christmas tree this year, I think as well. But I mean, 152 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 3: how consumers are adapting to persistent inflation is a theme 153 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 3: that we've been talking about all years. So great to 154 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: see our colleagues reporting there on what's happening to coffee drinkers. 155 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 3: Let's bring you more out though, on the latest trade 156 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: tensions between the EU and the United States. The Trump 157 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 3: administration is threatening to retaliate against European companies for their 158 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 3: efforts to tax American ferns. Our Chief Hero correspondent Oliver 159 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 3: Crooks with me in studio for more this morning. Oliver, 160 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 3: what are first of all, the measures that the US 161 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 3: is complaining about here and what is the Trump administration 162 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 3: saying about how it's planning to respond. 163 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 8: So they're taking aim of this idea of the digital taxes, 164 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 8: which are not levied across the EU at the moment, 165 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 8: but there are individual countries within Europe that do that. France, 166 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 8: for example, does target that in terms of ad revenues 167 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 8: from a lot. 168 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 4: Of these tech companies. 169 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 8: But it's not just about the digital tax right, that's 170 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 8: just one of the vast array of sort of non 171 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 8: tariff barriers that the United States is always talking about 172 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 8: within Europe. So it's a very sort of wide range 173 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 8: of things. It's not just taxes, it fines. For example, 174 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 8: Antitrust finds that the EU can levy against these massive 175 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 8: US tech companies, and the United States has aired their 176 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 8: displeasure a great many times on this particular topic, but 177 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 8: it doesn't always get pursued or sort of taken anywhere. 178 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 8: And so now we've heard from Jamison Greer from the 179 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 8: US Trade Representative's Office coming out on Twitter very sort 180 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 8: of emphatically saying that the European Union and certain U 181 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 8: member states have persisted in continuing a course of discriminatory 182 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 8: and harassing lawsuits, taxes finds directives against US service providers 183 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 8: and that basically if they don't stop doing this, not 184 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 8: only are they going to target EU companies, they've listed 185 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 8: into companies that they're going to target. They're going to 186 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:46,119 Speaker 8: be Accenturemideis, cap, Gemini, DHL, Mistral public SAP, Ziemans and Spotify. 187 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 8: So in that list you have mostly German and French companies, 188 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 8: a couple of others in there, so you know where 189 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 8: your butter bread is butter in terms of the power 190 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 8: within the EU, and saying that the United States will 191 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 8: have no choice but to begin using every tool at 192 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 8: its disposal to counter these unreasonable measures and should responsive 193 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 8: measures be necessary, the US law permits an assessment of 194 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 8: fees or restrictions on foreign services, among other actions. The 195 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 8: point that they make is basically, the US market is 196 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 8: fully open for European service providers. The European is not, 197 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 8: and that is what they're trying to take issue with. 198 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 8: Of course, the Trump administration is one that sees itself 199 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 8: as particularly aggrieved by the EU. 200 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's notable though that the EU uses language around fairness, 201 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,479 Speaker 2: things being fair and a focus on consumers. 202 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 4: How has the EU responded. 203 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, you won't be surprised to learn that the US 204 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 8: actually has a response to that too, right. The point 205 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 8: that they make is that though that the U and 206 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 8: as we spoke to Marsefkovic earlier this week and you know, 207 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 8: saying that basically all of these laws are applied fairly 208 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 8: and universally to any business that's operating within the EU. 209 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 8: They're not discriminatory against the United States. But what the 210 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 8: United States will say is that effectively, if you have 211 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 8: a speed limit on a road of one hundred and 212 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 8: fifteen miles per hour and only American cars go up 213 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 8: to one hundred and fifty miles per hour, you're effectively 214 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 8: targeting American cars. And that is what they're saying basically 215 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 8: about these tech regulations, because there are no other companies 216 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 8: in the world with the largest scale and the antitrust 217 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 8: concerns that a lot of these American companies have. What's 218 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 8: interesting about what the United States is doing is they're 219 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 8: linking these sort of digital taxes also with the other 220 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 8: parts of the trade deal, so steal in aluminum. Howard 221 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 8: Ludnik last time he was here in Brussels, he said 222 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 8: very explicitly to Bloomberg Television. The only way for you 223 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 8: guys to get these steal and aluminum tariffs down, which 224 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 8: are by the way, at fifty percent, very very elevated, 225 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 8: is to cool it, hit the brakes basically on tech 226 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 8: regulations within Europe, and that is so far with the 227 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 8: Europeans have said that they are not going to do that. 228 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 8: There is a question about if they're going a little 229 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 8: bit less hard on these fines. There's some anecdotal evidence 230 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 8: of that they're not pursuing these American companies quite as hard, 231 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 8: but they're still finding x for example, very recently one 232 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 8: hundred and twenty million dollars, and that has of course 233 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 8: received the iyre from the President and a number of 234 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 8: others in the US. 235 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 3: This is cited, as you say, in a wider context 236 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 3: of there being a reshaping of EUUs trade relations. We 237 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 3: have the deal that was announced during the summer, another 238 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 3: outline deal from the Trump administration. Negotiations over that are 239 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 3: still continuing. How does this latest threat, I suppose we 240 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 3: can describe it as from the US trade representatives, feed 241 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 3: into the broader conversation about those trade relations. 242 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 8: I think this highlights a couple of things. Well, one 243 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 8: is this idea of the non tariff barrier, the sort 244 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 8: of amorphist idea of basically anything the US doesn't like 245 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 8: in regard to their corporates will basically be considered a 246 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 8: non tariff trade barrier and as a consequence, will be 247 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 8: brought into a broader discussion about trade negotiations. So from 248 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 8: the European perspective, and again spoke to mar Sefkovich about this, 249 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 8: the Trade commissioner here in Europe earlier on Monday, that 250 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 8: basically the negotiation is never over. It can be reopened, 251 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 8: it can target new things, it can go into a 252 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 8: much wider scope of different sort of ideas that we're 253 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 8: not originally strictly speaking within the trade rubric, and that 254 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 8: is in a constantly evolving process. And then so you 255 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 8: get basically effectively things are never over stealing aluminum, not settled, 256 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 8: pharmaceutical still some major issues. And then of course you 257 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 8: get these sort of complete ambushes and surprises like Switzerland 258 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 8: experience where they thought they had a certain trade tariff 259 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 8: and then they had something completely different. But this is part, 260 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 8: broadly speaking of the Trump strategy. Trump knows that he 261 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 8: has the power in this sort of region, and he 262 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 8: keeps his adversaries or his competitors on their toes by 263 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 8: constantly being sort of unpredictable and being able to morph 264 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 8: the sort of plane of attack. 265 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 2: Ollie, thank you so much for being with us today. 266 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 2: Good to speak to you. That is Archief Europe Correspondent 267 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 2: Oliver Crook. So we'll keep across. Then the latest growing, 268 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: it would seem trade tensions between the EU and the US. 269 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,599 Speaker 2: Stay with us. More from Bloomberg Day Bakeupe coming up after. 270 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 3: This to the Western Balkans now, where Jared Kushner's splashy 271 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 3: real estate projects are colliding with the realities of doing 272 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 3: business in the region. Affinity Partner is the private equity 273 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 3: fund owned by Donald Trump's son in law, pulled out 274 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 3: of plans to build a Trump Tower and Serbia's capital, Belgrade, 275 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 3: but a different projects in Albania is still going ahead. 276 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 3: Our reporter grayce Akryer joins us now for more grace, 277 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 3: so good to talk to you. Firstly, with the Belgrade project, 278 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 3: what went there well. 279 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 9: What went wrong in Belgrade is that the project became 280 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 9: deeply politicized. It was promoted as a flagship investment by 281 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 9: Serbian President Alexander Bushich and his pushed through special legislation 282 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 9: to remove obstacles, including stripping protections from the site. That 283 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 9: approach reignited protests that had already been going on for 284 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 9: more than a year. In Serbia, things escalated further when 285 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 9: a government official who helped clear the path for the 286 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 9: development was indicted. In response, Affinity Partners, Jared Kushna's private 287 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 9: equity fund, said projects like this should unite rather than divide, 288 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 9: and that it was withdrawing out of respect for the 289 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 9: people of Serbia and the city of Belgrade. 290 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 2: So then that's for the Belgrade project. What is happening 291 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 2: with the Affinity Partners project in Albania. 292 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 9: In Albania, the project is still moving forward. The government 293 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 9: has approved plans for luxury resort and marinnounced Asa Island, 294 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 9: a former military base. Officials describe it as mission critical 295 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 9: for transforming the country's tourism sector. It is the largest 296 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 9: scale Western foreign investment of Prime Minister Edi Ramas twelve 297 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 9: years in power. The government presents it as part of 298 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 9: rebranding Albania as a destination that can compete with neighboring 299 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 9: Greece and Croatia. 300 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 3: This is happening, though at the time there are corruption 301 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 3: investigations ongoing across several aspects of public life in Albania. 302 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 3: How does that affect this project in the country's image. 303 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 9: More broadly, well, Albania is facing a wave of high 304 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:43,359 Speaker 9: level corruption investigations that touch some of its biggest infrastructure projects. 305 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 9: Deputy Prime Minister and Infrastructure Minister Belinda Baluku has been 306 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 9: indicted for aleged violations in public tenders covering projects directly 307 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 9: linked to the island. She's been suspended from her cabinet 308 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 9: roles apart from leaving the country while denying wrongdoings. Albeitian 309 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 9: officials save the resort project itself will continue. 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