Speaker 1: What is up, everybody, and welcome back to another episode
Speaker 1: of Nerdificent Time and one half of your host if
Speaker 1: you are sitting across from me as always is Danny Fernandez,
Speaker 1: and what is good? I feel like we both have
Speaker 1: like really great radio voices right now. When you came in,
Speaker 1: you sounded like you were like working at a station.
Speaker 1: But do you My favorite thing about she's year round,
Speaker 1: but my favorite the thing that reminds me of Christmas
Speaker 1: is Delilah. Do you know Delilah? Oh my god, she's
Speaker 1: like syndicated. She's syndicated, but it's like Delilah, it's always
Speaker 1: like your local, like whatever the Christmas station has turned to. Um,
Speaker 1: let me know, y'all if you listen to Delilah. I
Speaker 1: definitely did when I was like in Dallas, but I
Speaker 1: know she's syndicated all over and so she'll be like
Speaker 1: this one is out to a special someone, Um, Richard
Speaker 1: and your loved one is sending in Santa Baby, please
Speaker 1: come home for Christmas, you know whatever. And so I
Speaker 1: always do the jazz one where he's like, hey, how's
Speaker 1: it going, y'all? This is Tony Jones over and T Jazz.
Speaker 1: This one goes out to Candice. Uh, you know this
Speaker 1: one comes from Bobby. He says, I know you're working late. Yes,
Speaker 1: come home. There's going to be a play to Rice
Speaker 1: for you. Oh my gosh. We should bring in our
Speaker 1: guys because he's also in comedy. It is writer comedian
Speaker 1: Joseph Scrimshaw. Hey, hey, hello, you also have I was
Speaker 1: listening to you talk and I know that you said
Speaker 1: you did a storytelling podcast and I'm like that so
Speaker 1: makes sense. I mean, you do a bunch of them,
Speaker 1: but like your voice is so we have a couple
Speaker 1: of those friends. Mark Ellis is another one. Like y'all's
Speaker 1: voices are very much Yeah, he's got a radio voice too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I spent years doing theater and then when I started
Speaker 1: doing podcasts and be like, oh I don't have to
Speaker 1: yell anymore. My voice is an octave lower than I
Speaker 1: thought last. You have the rich undertone. It's like a
Speaker 1: smooth cup of coffee with Bailey's in it. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Bailey's in me right now. Yeah. Well, we always start
Speaker 1: our show with what we're seeking out about. Joseph, what
Speaker 1: are you seeking out about this week? I am geeking
Speaker 1: out about Watchman. But if everybody has come in and
Speaker 1: said that to you, I mean other thing I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say it. I mean every week, it's just yeah, it
Speaker 1: gets better and just sticks in your head. I think
Speaker 1: the thing that I love so much is that the
Speaker 1: that original comic book also cares about the history of
Speaker 1: comic books. So that's what I was waiting to see.
Speaker 1: And I love that the Watchman story is using like
Speaker 1: the history of media and how like televised visual media
Speaker 1: affects people. And yeah, I think that's just like a
Speaker 1: brilliant layering into what it is. Were you a big
Speaker 1: fan of the comics, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I read them
Speaker 1: a lot over different ages, and like the first time
Speaker 1: I read it's like cool, some punching, Yeah, some people
Speaker 1: are angry, and yeah, I did not fully appreciate what
Speaker 1: it was, and so I've read lots of different times
Speaker 1: over my life. Yeah. I think what I really like
Speaker 1: about this last episode is Damon Lindelof went down even
Speaker 1: more than any any anime director ever of the best
Speaker 1: fan service I think anybody wants, because I think the
Speaker 1: moment that reveal happened, people were like wondering, like we're
Speaker 1: gonna see and um, yeah you do. Spoil alert you're
Speaker 1: gonna see that thing. Uh, Swan and a fine Watchman
Speaker 1: tradition was I know, I know, I love that. Every
Speaker 1: actor who's who's done it was like yep, yeah, we're
Speaker 1: just gonna do it. Uh. Um yeah, is there anything
Speaker 1: you're geeking out about, Danny? Is there anything like a
Speaker 1: favor one of your favorite heroes, one of their like, uh,
Speaker 1: their trailer for their movie came out. Yeah, I'm geeking
Speaker 1: out about two things. One definitely uh you know Wonder Woman.
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm excited to see what more eighties stuff
Speaker 1: they'll play. I kind of want more of that, uh
Speaker 1: like really showing the decade, but who knows. I know
Speaker 1: that they also have to make it feel relevant. Um,
Speaker 1: I think it's more playful. I'm I'm just fascinating to
Speaker 1: see what they're gonna do because it's like who is
Speaker 1: the big Like you know, they kind of did that
Speaker 1: thing last time where they tricked us about who the
Speaker 1: big bad was, so that I mean, I know we
Speaker 1: have Cheetah and like, uh yeah, I'm just I'm I'm fascinated. Um.
Speaker 1: Also very excited that I finally got to share my
Speaker 1: news today about my HBO Max show, which like if
Speaker 1: he has known about for a long time, and like,
Speaker 1: there's so much hard work that happens behind the scenes
Speaker 1: that nobody sees just for this moment. So it was
Speaker 1: like kind of just waited. It feels like my entire
Speaker 1: life to have my show announced. But yeah, so that
Speaker 1: that was a really great, cool day. Thank you, thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean we've talked about I've talked about like my
Speaker 1: history with depression and honestly also treatment a kind of
Speaker 1: guinea pig myself. Uh, And so I'm really glad that
Speaker 1: HBO Max like saw the value in telling this story
Speaker 1: about like the humor that can be found and also
Speaker 1: just like kind of making fun of the American health
Speaker 1: care system. And you know when people say get help,
Speaker 1: you know, ask for help, Like what does that look like?
Speaker 1: Because it's not like just one straight trajectory, Okay, everything's
Speaker 1: sunshine and rainbows. I asked for help. It's like a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of dark humor and failure along
Speaker 1: the way. And so yeah, I'm excited to tell that story.
Speaker 1: Thank you every single person that shared that and wrote me.
Speaker 1: But today we were talking about something that I've been
Speaker 1: seeking about technically extremely a lot into the Internet we're
Speaker 1: talking about yoday. And also I'm a slide in baby Yoda.
Speaker 1: As I'm a slide I'm gonna slide them in there.
Speaker 1: Still don't know if it's everyone says him? Does John
Speaker 1: Favreau refer to him as the child the doctor, the
Speaker 1: creepy perhaps cloning doctor. Dr Pershing says him, Okay, wow,
Speaker 1: So that's why people have been leading with that instead
Speaker 1: of the normal reason that people say him, which is sexism. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because the first couple of weeks of the Mandalorian, I
Speaker 1: was like, uh, well, this would be cool if it
Speaker 1: actually turns out to be a girl, like nobody expects it,
Speaker 1: and it was like always taking care of this little girl,
Speaker 1: daddy daughter, like whatever. So I'm still holding out of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is absolutely possible that the doctor did some bad
Speaker 1: readings for the brief time that they had with Yoda.
Speaker 1: This is like when I adopted my cat when I
Speaker 1: was like seven and they said it was a girl
Speaker 1: that we took it to the vet and they were like, no,
Speaker 1: it's a boy. I did the same thing. Really. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The cat came to us on fourth of July and
Speaker 1: we named it like a Liberty bell and then like
Speaker 1: the nope, and changed the cat's name to uncle. That's
Speaker 1: so funny. Um, So, I guess you know your profile
Speaker 1: pictures you with Yoda. Would you say that? That's like?
Speaker 1: What is your connection? Why do have you watched onto Yoda? First? Like,
Speaker 1: I think Yoda just spoke to me as a child
Speaker 1: and I had the action figure and I thought about
Speaker 1: him a lot, and you know, a lot of the
Speaker 1: wisdom certainly came through. But then when I got to
Speaker 1: be an adult and tried to reflect, like why did
Speaker 1: he grab me when he was when I was a kid.
Speaker 1: I think the way he's introduced in Empire strikes back
Speaker 1: where he seems weird and kind of grabby and like
Speaker 1: he's kind of acting like a child, but he is
Speaker 1: secretly wise. And I think that's the way a lot
Speaker 1: of kids feel like. They feel like they're kind of
Speaker 1: acting out, kind of being a weirdo, and people are like,
Speaker 1: can can you? Can you shut up and take me
Speaker 1: to the real important person, the adult? And then is
Speaker 1: a kid you feel like but no, I I'm wise,
Speaker 1: I have things to say. And I think that's why,
Speaker 1: especially when people are young, they connect with Yoda. He's
Speaker 1: a secretly wise, Weirdoh yeah, and kind of like a
Speaker 1: prankster to be honest, there's like so much humor filling him.
Speaker 1: And I think this is the best time to interject
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of uh, you know, debate because
Speaker 1: people get mad that they call the child baby Yoda.
Speaker 1: No one cares people and but I but you know,
Speaker 1: it's because Yoda's race is never just like you talked
Speaker 1: about like they they left it vague, so there isn't
Speaker 1: a name for Yoda's race. Fans came out with tridactyls.
Speaker 1: Uh oh, I haven't heard that fan theory. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: they have three toed feet, so they call them tridactyls,
Speaker 1: which I thoroughly reject. Uh, it's gonna be every one
Speaker 1: of them is a Yoda. And it's because and it's
Speaker 1: funny because like on the one level, it's just easier
Speaker 1: and simpler, but on the other other level, that's just
Speaker 1: like simple almost human linguistics, where if you the kind
Speaker 1: of um colloquialism. Yeah, you typically like when people say, uh,
Speaker 1: Q tip, like those are all every Q tip isn't
Speaker 1: a Q tip. A Q tip is a brand, but
Speaker 1: because it's the one that's more wide clean X to
Speaker 1: clean x to band, you know, like that's just a
Speaker 1: general thing you do. So, of course the one Yoda
Speaker 1: that we've seen, the first one, will refer to the
Speaker 1: race as Yoda. And I hope that whoever writes the
Speaker 1: movie that finally names the race just trolls everyone. It
Speaker 1: calls the race Yoda, so that all the baby And
Speaker 1: it's because it's so funny, because also it's like, um,
Speaker 1: because it's very it's such an obvious attempt to be pedantic,
Speaker 1: because if you're mad at people from for calling baby
Speaker 1: Yoda baby Yoda, you're you're purposely ignoring the fact that
Speaker 1: there is not a name for the race like your
Speaker 1: new Yeah Frankenstein's Monster. Yeah, pedantic, Like yeah, we could
Speaker 1: say baby of the same ambiguous species of Yoda that
Speaker 1: takes up a lot of doesn't sound funa, it's just yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, they they are known as uh from for
Speaker 1: some people, I'm not tridactyls. Yeah, I think that's a
Speaker 1: pretty deep fan conjecture type thing. Yeah, after Yoda, but
Speaker 1: before chronologically we saw Yoda with Yattle. Yes, yeah, who
Speaker 1: also used the force as well. Can you talk to
Speaker 1: us about Yattle for people that don't know, Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 1: So in the Phantom Menace, we see the Jedi Council
Speaker 1: and there Yoda is leading it, and then there's just
Speaker 1: a random lady Yoda in the background, like really, like
Speaker 1: just the puppet was actually designed to possibly be a
Speaker 1: younger Yoda. And they're like, we don't that doesn't work.
Speaker 1: But how about a lady Yoda And she has long
Speaker 1: auburn hair. She does not speak in the movie. Uh,
Speaker 1: And then in uh the Legends comic books back in
Speaker 1: the day she had some adventures and was fleshed out
Speaker 1: in comic books and eventually died. So unattracted it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the different legs are difficult. In that one, they're like,
Speaker 1: she got two broken legs, like she crossed the I'm
Speaker 1: not she looks like I don't know, like Mima, or
Speaker 1: she's like I don't know, about to pass out, like
Speaker 1: she's in the middle of telling a story, and then
Speaker 1: just like her eyes roll to the back of her head. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is also a good time, is you you've done
Speaker 1: collider and screen junkie stuff, right, And I can tell
Speaker 1: because you talk like a movie nerd, And I say
Speaker 1: I would love because you're not because you say movie.
Speaker 1: Then the year which is something I always forget. Phantom
Speaker 1: Menace and I was like, yeah, that that's that's that's
Speaker 1: how you win. I could never survive on those because
Speaker 1: I'm so bad with years, but gosh, yeah, that um
Speaker 1: Phantom Menace was I mean, what are your you know, sidebar?
Speaker 1: What is your general idea of the prequels? You know,
Speaker 1: I've gone a long journey with the prequels. Bottom line.
Speaker 1: I do think there's some rough writing, some rough dialogue,
Speaker 1: maybe some rough c g I here and there. But
Speaker 1: the more time I've spent with them, I have problems
Speaker 1: with the execution, but not the movies. Lucas created really
Speaker 1: specific theme and ideas, and I think it all ties
Speaker 1: together into a really great story and adds a ton
Speaker 1: to the Star Wars mythos. So I'm a big prequel fan.
Speaker 1: At his voice, like and it's even the stuff that
Speaker 1: I like, I'm not sure about that, like Yattle, Like
Speaker 1: I was like, why is there a Yeattle? What the
Speaker 1: deal with? You? Just so angry about it? And I
Speaker 1: was like, there's a lady Yoda and her names Yattle,
Speaker 1: and she's got weird chicken legs, awesome, what's not to enjoy?
Speaker 1: I do love the fact that George added another person
Speaker 1: to the Yoda race but still was like, we're not
Speaker 1: going to give a name real attention to the Baby
Speaker 1: Yoda thing of whether or not we're going to discover
Speaker 1: because Lucas kind of kept wanting to explain things, and
Speaker 1: he added Yattle, but he still didn't want to explain
Speaker 1: the race. So it's been one of the really really
Speaker 1: hands off things in all of Star Wars. Um. I
Speaker 1: just love the wire reminds me of Dragon Ball with
Speaker 1: like Goku goten Gohan, Like, I hope they keep doing that.
Speaker 1: I hope Baby Yoda is something with Yoda Yattle's saying.
Speaker 1: It's like basic on the naming function for both Yoda
Speaker 1: and Yattle. It has to be why vowel d vowel
Speaker 1: Like yeah, like if it'd be weird to change it
Speaker 1: now rule of threes, we have to keep it going.
Speaker 1: So maybe, yeah, how I would love Yado Yeddi Yeddi, Yeddi.
Speaker 1: Are you Yeddi? Oh um? So getting back to the
Speaker 1: creation of Yoda. So, the puppet version of Yoda from
Speaker 1: the O G series was designed by Jim Henson, voiced
Speaker 1: and performed by Frank Oz. The character went c g
Speaker 1: I for the two thousands prequel, Oz recounted how director
Speaker 1: Ryan Johnson courted his return for The Last Jedi that
Speaker 1: said quote, we had lunch and Ryan asked me if
Speaker 1: I wanted to be Yoda there, and I said sure.
Speaker 1: I thought it was c G I. So I was
Speaker 1: shocked when I found out they really wanted to do
Speaker 1: the real Yoda, because that's a huge mass of undertaking.
Speaker 1: But that's what they did. It just began with Ryan,
Speaker 1: and it made sense. You couldn't have c g I
Speaker 1: Yoda with Mark Luke because Luke wouldn't have a c
Speaker 1: g I Yoda. The only Yoda Luke knew was a
Speaker 1: puppet character. That's so sweet. Also, same thing happened with Mandalorian.
Speaker 1: I remember, um, I'm forgetting his name, the older general. Yes,
Speaker 1: I know where you're going and it's beautiful. Yeah. Do
Speaker 1: you want to tell them the what he said? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So he I mean, he said a lot of things
Speaker 1: about how beautiful the puppet is. But there's there was
Speaker 1: alleged report that they were wondering whether the puppet was
Speaker 1: working on set and talking about should they c G I,
Speaker 1: and apparently were hurts like your coward? Yeah, yeah, that
Speaker 1: was so funny, so great. So this is I don't
Speaker 1: know if you know this fact. George Lucas had originally
Speaker 1: conceived Yoda's full name as being Mint Yoda. Yeah, okay, um.
Speaker 1: And then the makeup artist Stewart Freeborn based Yoda's face
Speaker 1: partly on his own that's really cool, and partly on
Speaker 1: Albert Einstein's, which is not very I can totally a
Speaker 1: thousand percent see then also not very flattering at all. Um.
Speaker 1: In The Phantom Menace, he was redesigned to look younger.
Speaker 1: He was computer generated, as we said, for two distant shots,
Speaker 1: but he actually remained mostly a puppet. Yeah. So the
Speaker 1: Phantom Menace he he was a puppet for many years,
Speaker 1: and then they needed him to be digital for Attack
Speaker 1: the Clones for his big lightsaber fight, and then they
Speaker 1: went back and put digital Yoda into Phantom Menace. So
Speaker 1: if you buy the Blue Rays, now we're watch him
Speaker 1: on Disney. Plus, you're not going to see the the
Speaker 1: puppet from Phantom Menace. He's all all the time, and
Speaker 1: any prequels. Now, that's so interesting. I don't know why,
Speaker 1: I guess to match it, I guess I think so
Speaker 1: in that that that puppet was interesting. Okay, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: so this is just finishing up on what frank Oz said.
Speaker 1: He said, people don't realize that A great, a great
Speaker 1: part of the reason why Yoda works is because of Mark.
Speaker 1: It's because if Mark doesn't believe in that character, nobody
Speaker 1: else will. What he does there is extremely important, always
Speaker 1: has been. When we got together, it was just like
Speaker 1: old times. He never changed. He is just a wonderful guy.
Speaker 1: Very funny too. People forget that when you have c
Speaker 1: g I you're looking at a tennis ball. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean there's something to having frank Ozz literally being right there,
Speaker 1: like mastering a puppet. Oh yeah, I mean I did.
Speaker 1: There was an old show on Fox called Son of Zorn,
Speaker 1: which it was a a live action animated show with
Speaker 1: a Heman style character that was animated, and uh, I
Speaker 1: did an episode and it was my buddy Dan Lippert,
Speaker 1: who's like six something like has to be like, I
Speaker 1: don't know his actual hype a six three six four,
Speaker 1: And he was wearing this all silver suit and then
Speaker 1: he had like the like a kind of eyeline on
Speaker 1: his head so that people would look up and I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, this this definitely changes it because like
Speaker 1: I'm not looking at him and I'm looking at my
Speaker 1: friend in a weird silver suit, So so I can
Speaker 1: imagine like it's using like those puppets probably give you
Speaker 1: a better performance too, because especially if you've ever done
Speaker 1: anything like you know, hyper We'll do had like perception
Speaker 1: check of Perception Studios and now does it on their own,
Speaker 1: where you would do dn D with puppets, and after
Speaker 1: a while, it just kind of fades away and it
Speaker 1: feels like you're, yeah, you're interacting with a puppet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think puppets are so much better than
Speaker 1: c J I. But for Empire Strikes Back, I think
Speaker 1: there's that such credit to to Mark Hamill, because you know,
Speaker 1: sci fi and fantasy wasn't as big of a deal,
Speaker 1: and it certainly wasn't a big blockbuster movie to be
Speaker 1: taken seriously and like Star Wars breaks the mold actually
Speaker 1: having good effects. And then suddenly Mark Hamila has a
Speaker 1: chalnge like you're not Harrison and Carry. You're gonna be
Speaker 1: fallen in love and you're gonna be alone with the
Speaker 1: puppet for most of the movie, and it's going to
Speaker 1: be deep philosophy and it's gonna ride your back? Could
Speaker 1: you make everyone take that seriously? I don't think people
Speaker 1: ever give Mark Camila enough for what he did back
Speaker 1: back then. So can you tell us what we know
Speaker 1: about Yodo? Like a little bit of his history. I
Speaker 1: know that he lives to be nine hundred apparently his
Speaker 1: height is blow to be a half feet. That's around
Speaker 1: where they are. But like, I just don't I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm moving on. I guess what do we know of
Speaker 1: his lore before he meets uh Luke? Yeah, so it's
Speaker 1: a there's a little bits and pieces in modern cannon.
Speaker 1: So you know, there's the Legends of Star Wars, which
Speaker 1: there's all these comic books and various books that have
Speaker 1: been written in the years before Disney bought it, and
Speaker 1: then two thousand and twelve they buy it and say
Speaker 1: we're going to ignore that and call it legends. You
Speaker 1: can enjoy it if you want. And then there's modern
Speaker 1: Star Wars cannon. So were those written a Star Wars
Speaker 1: official Yeah, they were licensed by George Lucas. And then
Speaker 1: he sometimes would go like, oh, it's this level canon,
Speaker 1: this level canon. Other times you go like, I don't
Speaker 1: care that you said something different than what I'm going
Speaker 1: to say in the movie, because the movie comes first,
Speaker 1: so we kind of licensed them, but he never took
Speaker 1: them really seriously, you know, And I think when Disney
Speaker 1: takes over, they know the kind of nerds that exist now, like, oh,
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna wanting everything to be connected, and if one
Speaker 1: thing happens, it's true. So they have been, you know,
Speaker 1: they have a story group to keep everything consistent. So
Speaker 1: within the modern canon, we know a couple random adventures
Speaker 1: Yoda had as he was growing up and being a
Speaker 1: Jedi over hundreds of years, but for the most part,
Speaker 1: we kind of catch up with him mainly in The
Speaker 1: Phantom Menace, and he is leading the Jedi Council. He's
Speaker 1: been leading it for a while, and he's the Yoda.
Speaker 1: We know he's wise and kind, but he's also kind
Speaker 1: of stuck in his ways in getting a little bit rigid.
Speaker 1: And that's a large part of the story of the
Speaker 1: prequels and the story of the actual Jedi that they've
Speaker 1: been around for so long. Yoda has been leading it
Speaker 1: for so long that he's getting kind of stuck in
Speaker 1: his ways. In a part of Jedi philosophy is you know,
Speaker 1: you're never done learning that you should always be open
Speaker 1: to new things. And it's Yoda doesn't handle things as
Speaker 1: well as he could, which you know, you go to
Speaker 1: Phantom Menacing where he meets Anakin and he's he's a
Speaker 1: little cold to him. It's like, how do you feel?
Speaker 1: And and Anakin's like cold, sir, He's like fear fearing,
Speaker 1: like you know, he goes in on this kid right away,
Speaker 1: and you're like, damn Yoda. Uh. And that is part
Speaker 1: of the storytelling that Yoda has is getting a little
Speaker 1: stuck in his ways and a little a little fearful,
Speaker 1: a little like overly on guard for anything that might
Speaker 1: lead to the dark Side. And is this because it
Speaker 1: happens after Count Dooku goes to the dark Side on him. No,
Speaker 1: it's actually before Duko has left the Jedi Order because
Speaker 1: he has doubts in it. So I think that has
Speaker 1: maybe affected Yoda because he's that's his padawan of Doku
Speaker 1: as his padawan, and Doku basically said like, I don't
Speaker 1: think the Jedi Order is actually working well. You're two
Speaker 1: in league with the government and falling what they do
Speaker 1: instead of just listening to the will of the force.
Speaker 1: Duke has already got some problems, so yeah, they're probably
Speaker 1: affected Yoda. But I mean the story that Lucas is
Speaker 1: really interested in with the government, the Republic and with
Speaker 1: the Jedi Council is that he just doesn't like big organizations.
Speaker 1: And you go back there, like he had to leave
Speaker 1: the Directors Guild because they were fighting with him about
Speaker 1: where the director credit goes on Empire strikes back, and
Speaker 1: you know, he's an indie filmmaker who kind of made
Speaker 1: one of the biggest things ever kind of on his own.
Speaker 1: You know, he got distribution and all that. But so
Speaker 1: then he goes back to tell this story and what
Speaker 1: do you know, A lot of it's about big organizations
Speaker 1: eventually get all crusty, ridgid and full of themselves and
Speaker 1: fall apart. Three adventure movies about that. Do we know
Speaker 1: how or when he joined the Jedi We don't know
Speaker 1: details about that. The best thing that we can kind
Speaker 1: of infer is because he is says he Yoda says
Speaker 1: he's nine years, nine hundred years old and has been
Speaker 1: training Jedi for eight hundred years, that he joined sometime
Speaker 1: in before he turned one hundred and baby Yoda is
Speaker 1: fifty years. He has fifty yeah, yeah, So that's really interesting.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if Baby Yoda is suddenly gonna
Speaker 1: be like I've turned fifty. Hello, let's discuss literature. If
Speaker 1: he's suddenly going to be like totally advanced, that's so
Speaker 1: interesting because yeah, like the introduction of baby Yoda at
Speaker 1: fifty just presents so much information and questions about the race,
Speaker 1: because if at fifty you're still basically infantile, Like, at
Speaker 1: what point do you when are we going to see teenage? Teenage?
Speaker 1: I hope that season two of Men. Also, somebody tweeted
Speaker 1: and said, like, what if when baby Yoda starts talking,
Speaker 1: it's normal and then um, and then regular Yoda like
Speaker 1: just had to stroke or something. Yeah, it'll also talks
Speaker 1: that way. Okay, never mind, maybe that's just a part
Speaker 1: of the species having strokes. Um, we have to take
Speaker 1: a really quick break and then we're going to hop
Speaker 1: back into more Yota and of course me trying to
Speaker 1: shoohorn in Baby Yoda as much as possible. But first
Speaker 1: we wanted to talk to y'all about Audible, which if
Speaker 1: he I actually use a time. I have so many
Speaker 1: books on Audible. Yeah yeah, yeah, I have their membership,
Speaker 1: so oh so you're your fancy yeah, and just well
Speaker 1: I'm in my car a lot like here in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: literally like it takes like getting traffic everywhere. It's like podcasts,
Speaker 1: but audio books. Yes, And so I'm so excited because
Speaker 1: I get to tell other people about the gift of
Speaker 1: an audible membership, which I don't know if you're definitely
Speaker 1: treat yourself give it to a friend for the holiday season,
Speaker 1: because I use it religiously. Yeah, especially if you're somewhere
Speaker 1: a where there's a lot to a lot of commuting,
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Speaker 1: and we're back. We're still talking about Yoda. Yes, I
Speaker 1: had just a couple more quotes that I wanted to
Speaker 1: say from Frank Oz. I mean, it's just I think
Speaker 1: we really forget that he's the man behind this character.
Speaker 1: So he said it's a four person character. I flew
Speaker 1: back and forth to London about three times and rehearse
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks with them. It's very intense
Speaker 1: rehearsal because you have four people trying to do one
Speaker 1: thing very very specifically, so every single word, every single
Speaker 1: move had to be rehearsed again and again. Therefore we
Speaker 1: don't take time on the set. The last time I
Speaker 1: flew over there, I rehearsed with the three guys again
Speaker 1: and then we went and shot for a day and
Speaker 1: a half, night and a half. Yeah, I mean they're
Speaker 1: having they're having I even see this now with the
Speaker 1: Mandalorian with the little puppet, but like his ear moves,
Speaker 1: his eye moves, his map, like everything has to be
Speaker 1: SYNCD up. Yeah. Yeah, and that's it been like this
Speaker 1: grand tradition of Yoda is the ear wobble because when
Speaker 1: they made the original puppet, they're like, this looks good,
Speaker 1: but his mouth moves, his ears wobble a little bit,
Speaker 1: and then at the time it's like, what are we
Speaker 1: gonna do? And then that became really authentic. So when
Speaker 1: they made the digital Yoda, they build into the digital
Speaker 1: Yoda that his ears wabble. Yeah, So it's been great
Speaker 1: to see baby Yoda's ears being so very expressive. Yes,
Speaker 1: So would you say that he has a character trajectory
Speaker 1: or does he kind of stay the same. Oh? No,
Speaker 1: I think some of it is implied, but it's definitely there.
Speaker 1: You know, in the prequels, he goes through the Clone Wars,
Speaker 1: he knows that it's kind of that there's something fishy
Speaker 1: that he's been, you know, drawn into something. Jedi are
Speaker 1: supposed to defend and protect, but they're kind of drawn
Speaker 1: into being warriors in the Clone Wars and just the
Speaker 1: act of fighting sort of increases the dark side. He's
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what's going on with that. Eventually
Speaker 1: he realizes that they've been played by City as Palpatine.
Speaker 1: And you know, there's a scene in Revenge of the
Speaker 1: Sith where he says, so fail Divi, and he really
Speaker 1: is owning like, I screwed up. I was not looking
Speaker 1: at the big picture and I let fear get to me.
Speaker 1: So then when he goes to Dagiba in between the
Speaker 1: sequels and hides out in between the prequel trilogy and
Speaker 1: the original trilogy, So by the time that Yoda shows
Speaker 1: up or that Luke shows up to be rained, he's like,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I should train him. Maybe it
Speaker 1: maybe it'll only make things worse. Uh. So he really
Speaker 1: did take time to reflect. And if you watch the
Speaker 1: prequels and then compare them to all of Yoda's wisdom
Speaker 1: and empire, you can't see a real shift that he
Speaker 1: is trying to be much more open and flowing and
Speaker 1: really practice what he preaches. And a really fun detail
Speaker 1: that came out that I wanted to be sure to share. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's a book called From a Certain point of View
Speaker 1: that gives a bunch of different characters little chapters. Uh.
Speaker 1: In Yoda's chapter is kind of he's on Daga but
Speaker 1: and he's looking out and sensing everything going on in
Speaker 1: the galaxy, and he's wishing that he could train Skywalker.
Speaker 1: He wishes that Skywalker would come here because Skywalker is
Speaker 1: so disciplined and so ready to learn the ways of
Speaker 1: the force. And then you realize he's talking about Leah
Speaker 1: and it's this great twist and if you you really
Speaker 1: watch it all, it was like, Yeah, Luke's like, I
Speaker 1: want to have adventure. I want to go out there.
Speaker 1: I want to be uh, you know, a fighter like
Speaker 1: my dad and a warrior with a cool sword and lands.
Speaker 1: Just like I'm serious, I have to take care of things.
Speaker 1: I have to be selfless and put other people first,
Speaker 1: and like she is a perfect what a Jedi is
Speaker 1: supposed to be. Yeah, so he's like, all right, I
Speaker 1: was kind of hoping lay I would show up eventually,
Speaker 1: but I guess I'll take Luke. That's so neat. No,
Speaker 1: I definitely didn't know that. I also I'm fascinated. So
Speaker 1: I mean, if we're looking at the child slash, baby
Speaker 1: Yoda obviously is force sensitive. Was I don't remember this
Speaker 1: because I don't remember Yattle, but I'm guessing she was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's on the Jedi Council. Yeah, of course she is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, she doesn't Okay, Yeah, you don't get
Speaker 1: to see her, you know, throw things around or anything.
Speaker 1: That's what I mean about the old Light Saber, at
Speaker 1: least on screen. So I wonder if it's just more
Speaker 1: inherent in their race species. That's the big question that
Speaker 1: Baby Yoda is teasing for people who are, you know,
Speaker 1: into this level of Star Wars of like, oh, is
Speaker 1: that just two of those? Is that the only two
Speaker 1: that ever existed Yoda, Yattle or all of these creatures
Speaker 1: ever for sensitive of you know, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: people who think that Baby Yoda is going to be
Speaker 1: an actual clone of Yoda. Uh yeah, I know. That's
Speaker 1: the big thing is people think that that's a clone,
Speaker 1: possibly a clone. Yeah, Baby Yoda. Do you how do
Speaker 1: you fall on that spectrum of that conspiracy? I always
Speaker 1: it works in the history of Star Wars and in
Speaker 1: the timeline of Star Wars and all that. But I
Speaker 1: always think about, like for these kind of what if,
Speaker 1: like well, how would impact the story? And I don't
Speaker 1: see how it would super impact the story if it
Speaker 1: was it's another Yoda. Yodas had his story. It's completed,
Speaker 1: there's an arc, and I think it's much more interesting
Speaker 1: if we kind of get a little sense of maybe
Speaker 1: what this race is, but more importantly, like what does
Speaker 1: it mean for the Mandalorian? You know, I think Baby
Speaker 1: Yoda is all about Mandalorian going. I didn't really have
Speaker 1: my heart and being a bounty hunter because I'm kind
Speaker 1: of a noble guy and now now I gotta be
Speaker 1: a dad and I have no idea how to do that.
Speaker 1: But I know what it is to be an orphan,
Speaker 1: so I am not going to So I think having
Speaker 1: the the kid have his his own identity adds more
Speaker 1: to that relationship than suddenly the Mandalorian going yes, Yoda,
Speaker 1: I've looked at years old passed away like, yeah, it
Speaker 1: could happen. They might have a good storytelling reason. But
Speaker 1: I was going to say, what are some of your
Speaker 1: favorite quotes? Oh yeah, and you'd has got a lot
Speaker 1: of great quotes. Uh, empire strikes back. I think there
Speaker 1: is a ton that you know, people quote a lot
Speaker 1: that are really powerful to do or do not. There
Speaker 1: is no try, which I think just boils down to
Speaker 1: believe in yourself if you believe you can do it,
Speaker 1: if you believe you can sell script and allywood like,
Speaker 1: you have to believe that it can happen, right, I
Speaker 1: think that is just a great wisdom. I don't think
Speaker 1: I told. I can't remember if I told. The podcast
Speaker 1: is but Matthew Cherry, who's a director who if you
Speaker 1: don't follow, definitely do and he's a part of Monkey Pow,
Speaker 1: which is uh or he has worked under Monkey pot
Speaker 1: which is Jordan Peel's company. He tweeted months ago in
Speaker 1: the summer, sometimes you just have to bet on yourself.
Speaker 1: And that was literally when I was going into my
Speaker 1: pitch to HBO, Max and like there are a lot
Speaker 1: of things working against me with that, and I just
Speaker 1: was like, Nope, I'm going to do it. I know
Speaker 1: I haven't sold something before, but I'm gonna. You know,
Speaker 1: it was just like this thing of like kind of
Speaker 1: giving being undeniable, I would say, And if I had
Speaker 1: had any wavering sense, I don't think I would have
Speaker 1: sold it. And I think I just went in thinking
Speaker 1: that I would. So I totally agree. But also, Matthew Cherry,
Speaker 1: thank you for tweeting that. I told him so many times.
Speaker 1: I like it literally changed my life because it just
Speaker 1: changed the framework of changed my my brain when I
Speaker 1: was going in there, because I saw his tweet like
Speaker 1: right before I went in. Yeah, he was your Yoda.
Speaker 1: He was my own Matthew Cherry twitter Yoda. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: I think there's great things about like, yeah, just believing yourself.
Speaker 1: But I think he also like it just kind of
Speaker 1: there's that great scene and Empire strikes back where he
Speaker 1: Yoda brings Luke to these tree cave that has evil
Speaker 1: spirits in it, you know that that evil presence that
Speaker 1: and uh and Luke as him what's in it and
Speaker 1: he says, only what you take with you, which is
Speaker 1: like such a great idea of just being mindful yourself
Speaker 1: of well, what is in any room that you go in, well,
Speaker 1: at least what you take with you. You know he's
Speaker 1: in there. If you come in with negative energy, that
Speaker 1: will for sure be in the room. Um. Another quote
Speaker 1: I love is when Luke is asking about how the
Speaker 1: force works and how he'll know the difference between the
Speaker 1: light side and the dark side. Joda says, you will
Speaker 1: know when you are calm, at peace, passive. The Jedi
Speaker 1: uses the force for knowledge and defense, never for attack.
Speaker 1: And I remember hearing that when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: and it's just like I was kind of Luke and like,
Speaker 1: but I want to have adventured, and as I get older,
Speaker 1: just that idea of just like, Okay, any problem you have,
Speaker 1: take a deep breath, be calm, except that you can
Speaker 1: only do the things that you can do, So you're
Speaker 1: you're passive when other people are upset, and you act
Speaker 1: when you need to out of knowledge or defense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's just like that that kind of boils down
Speaker 1: to even just like having a nice conversation with people,
Speaker 1: being a decent driver in traffic, you know, like just
Speaker 1: kind of day to day real life stuff is where
Speaker 1: as well as deep philosophical. Also, since this is kind
Speaker 1: of our first time talking about Star Wars on the pod,
Speaker 1: I think we should really discuss the difference between Jedi
Speaker 1: and the Seth because I think anyone watching it just
Speaker 1: assumes it's good and bad when really it's a little
Speaker 1: more complicated than that, because where how it really breaks
Speaker 1: down as the Sith wants to take over completely and
Speaker 1: the Jedi actually wants balance. They don't want to wipe
Speaker 1: out the Sith because they because the Force, the way
Speaker 1: the Force works is you need the dark side for
Speaker 1: the light side to balance. Uh Is that correct? Did
Speaker 1: I goof that up? Well? I think there is a
Speaker 1: there's there's debate, and it's definitely Star Wars is art
Speaker 1: and you can take it the way you want, and
Speaker 1: I have opinions, and in Lucas has been saying some
Speaker 1: stuff about this that's been a resurfacing. I think that
Speaker 1: the idea of it is the Jedi do want balance
Speaker 1: in that accepting that there is light and dark naturally
Speaker 1: in the world. There's a cycle of life and death,
Speaker 1: and you know, certain trees have to die in order
Speaker 1: to be reborn and all that kind of thing. The
Speaker 1: Sith when they're like the dark Side, it's entirely selfish.
Speaker 1: They want to consume everything, so they want to be
Speaker 1: if they want to be on attack. And the Jedi,
Speaker 1: and this is another thing that I think is is
Speaker 1: great philosophy of the Jedi are like, we are passive,
Speaker 1: except with the Sith. They gotta die because otherwise they
Speaker 1: will take over everything. Lucas himself has said explicitly. Again,
Speaker 1: audiences can interpret it how they want, but Lucas has said,
Speaker 1: bringing balance to the force means killing the Sith because
Speaker 1: otherwise they will take everything. And that's what makes some
Speaker 1: of these quotes even more powerful to me, because he's like,
Speaker 1: it's knowledge and defense doesn't mean just never do anything,
Speaker 1: but it means only razor blade. Only get violent when
Speaker 1: you're actively stopping something evil and unnatural, like the Sith
Speaker 1: going we'll take all of it. It's not like we'll
Speaker 1: take fifty of the universe the galaxy and be evil
Speaker 1: over here and you guys have parties, they'll take it all. Well,
Speaker 1: this was so fascinating. As I was listening to you
Speaker 1: talk like some of his quotes, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: these reminds me of tenants of martial arts. They're supposed
Speaker 1: to us a self defense, right like that, I mean
Speaker 1: a ridge landing. People kind of use it for a
Speaker 1: lot of different things. But I feel like he's Yodo
Speaker 1: reminds me obviously of a guru, and I feel like, um,
Speaker 1: this teacher, and um, I feel like there's a lot
Speaker 1: of elements of martial arts that's like, um, you're only
Speaker 1: supposed to You're not supposed to use it for harm
Speaker 1: unless you're you're differ Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Um. Another
Speaker 1: quote that people really means a lot to people is
Speaker 1: the luminous beings? Are we not this crude matter? And
Speaker 1: again it's you know, it's Star Wars and it it
Speaker 1: pulls from lots of different ideas and religions, and you
Speaker 1: can take it how you want, but I think it's
Speaker 1: just a it's a very beautiful idea in the word
Speaker 1: luminous gets used a lot in Star Wars because of
Speaker 1: the power of that one moment in Empire strikes back
Speaker 1: of just that idea that we are more than the
Speaker 1: some of our parts, you know, and we are all connected. Yeah, yeah, gosh.
Speaker 1: I was going to say some one of the books
Speaker 1: that I mentioned, so one with Wayne and dire. He
Speaker 1: has something which I think a lot of people like
Speaker 1: actually hearing this, is that he like you said, there's
Speaker 1: there is dark and light, there's good and bad, and
Speaker 1: he said, so, um, that's just how life operates in cycles.
Speaker 1: And so if you're having a lot of bad luck,
Speaker 1: like if you're just really down, you're having a really
Speaker 1: hard time, imagine that good luck is leaning against it.
Speaker 1: And I really love that. It's like when you're like,
Speaker 1: how can I hold on for hope, I'm having like
Speaker 1: the worst time of my life, and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: if you're already down, it means you must be going up. Like,
Speaker 1: just imagine that good luck is on the other side
Speaker 1: waiting to happen. It's like waiting to take its cycle.
Speaker 1: So that's just love. It's that good stuff. That's that
Speaker 1: good stuff in that Bernie Brown. Um, we have to
Speaker 1: take another really quick break and then we're gonna hop
Speaker 1: back into more Yoda after this and we are back.
Speaker 1: One fact I just wanted to throw in here before
Speaker 1: we move on is Lego Yoda. His mini fig was
Speaker 1: the first of their figures to be shorter than the
Speaker 1: other toys in the Lego Star Wars. Love that So
Speaker 1: how small is Baby Yoda gonna be? I personally love
Speaker 1: the fact that Disney listened to Jon Favreau about not
Speaker 1: having merchandise because obviously that would have spoiled all of
Speaker 1: the Baby Yoda stuff. And I know everyone was like, well,
Speaker 1: it's just coming out in time for the holidays. I'm like,
Speaker 1: but it's not, though, because in order for that to happen,
Speaker 1: they would have had to have those cells, like make
Speaker 1: up the characters, the models. All of that takes months.
Speaker 1: So you're not going to see Baby Yoda merch until Yeah.
Speaker 1: I smashed that link for the Funko Pop and it's
Speaker 1: like May of next year. Yeah. So it costs Disney
Speaker 1: two point seven million with no Baby Yota products available
Speaker 1: for the holiday season. We're going to make that up
Speaker 1: next totally, no problem, no problem. They'll make back the
Speaker 1: price they paid for lucasfilm in the Baby Yoda merch So, Joseph,
Speaker 1: can you talk to us a little bit about Clone
Speaker 1: Wars Yoda specifically? Yeah, So the Clone Wars you get
Speaker 1: to spend a lot of time more time with the
Speaker 1: Jedi in particularly the Jedi Council and individual episodes with
Speaker 1: Yoda being a wise leader and having a little bit
Speaker 1: more of a sense of mirth and humor because that
Speaker 1: is a part of his character. But at the end
Speaker 1: of The Clone Wars, there's gonna be a new season
Speaker 1: coming out in uh February on Disney, plus a final
Speaker 1: season the Clone Wars. But in what is right now
Speaker 1: the last season of The Clone Wars, Yoda starts hearing
Speaker 1: the voice of Quagon Gin, the Jedi played by Liam
Speaker 1: Neeson from Phantom, Menace, and Uh. Lucas had always meant
Speaker 1: to tell this story in the movies, but he basically
Speaker 1: tells the story of how some Jedi can retain their
Speaker 1: existence within the Force and appears forced ghosts or force spirits.
Speaker 1: So sometimes people like Han should come back and be
Speaker 1: a ghost. And like this arc of Yoda is like
Speaker 1: no no in in or like Mace Window, like Mace
Speaker 1: Window didn't do the training. Uh. Long story short, UH,
Speaker 1: Quigan was very interested in this idea that if you
Speaker 1: were doing so for a selfless reason, you could retain
Speaker 1: your existence within the Force. Because the idea is everybody
Speaker 1: passes into the Force where part of the force we
Speaker 1: always will be, but you're not aware that, Hey, this
Speaker 1: is who I was, and I can talk to people
Speaker 1: and all that so quick and kind of half figured
Speaker 1: this out. He comes to Yoda and says, I have
Speaker 1: this additional train for you to do. You have to
Speaker 1: kind of face your dark self. You have to face
Speaker 1: the possibilities that you made some mistakes. You have to
Speaker 1: face your fear of the future. And through all this
Speaker 1: training you will eventually learn to become one with the Force,
Speaker 1: but still retain your your identity. And Obi Wan learns
Speaker 1: this from Quagon as well, meditating on Tautoween. So that's
Speaker 1: why in the original Star Wars movie, when Obi Wan
Speaker 1: Kenobi disappears, uh, he doesn't get cut in half by
Speaker 1: Darth Vader. He disappears, and later he appears as a
Speaker 1: four Spirit. And when Yoda dies in Return of the Jedi,
Speaker 1: he disappears, and when Luke dies in Last Jedi, he disappears.
Speaker 1: And a lot of this might be a little bit
Speaker 1: more relevant to Rise of Skywalker because a lot of
Speaker 1: people think there's gonna be a four Spirit party. So
Speaker 1: if people are watching, go like, why did my random
Speaker 1: favorite Jedi come back? That that Yo to Arc and
Speaker 1: that that wisdom the end experience that you need in a
Speaker 1: a particular idea that you need to have like a
Speaker 1: selfless reason to retain your Yeah, you can't just be
Speaker 1: like I just want like being me. I don't want
Speaker 1: to stop. And the idea is they learned this so
Speaker 1: they could help Luke finish his journey. And you know,
Speaker 1: that's why Yoda is showing up to Luke in the
Speaker 1: Last Jedi, because that's kind of the point of continuing
Speaker 1: to have your identity within the Force is to be
Speaker 1: able to help people. So everyone thinks that we're going
Speaker 1: to get a force ghost Luke. Yeah, I mean that's
Speaker 1: almost certain sense smart camels in the cast okay um
Speaker 1: but also other force ghosts. Yeah, possibly Leiah you mean no,
Speaker 1: because she's she could have trained. We don't know, but
Speaker 1: like we know that Quigan in theory, Liam Neeson in
Speaker 1: theory could appear um Obi one Kenobi. They've got some
Speaker 1: work to do on that. But I see what you mean.
Speaker 1: Because this is the last one of this chapter, there
Speaker 1: might be some of the past. Yeah. Yeah, and in
Speaker 1: theory because Anakin pops up right at the end of
Speaker 1: Return of the Jedi, his forced spirit appears to Luke.
Speaker 1: So like you know, everybody's the walks are dancing, everybody's partying,
Speaker 1: and Luke kind of looks off at the distance and
Speaker 1: he sees Obi one as a forced spirit. He sees
Speaker 1: Yoda and then he sees his father join him. So
Speaker 1: that suggests that Anakin has somehow learned to retain his existence.
Speaker 1: So then that your mind starts going like, I bet
Speaker 1: Anakin would maybe have some things to say about what
Speaker 1: his grandson's choices are, right, So there's a possibility of
Speaker 1: that as well. Also, Um, Force awakens. I was such
Speaker 1: a troll and I just kept calling her race Guywalker.
Speaker 1: We have yet to see the full truth. I love
Speaker 1: just being a edge lord. Um. So between this between
Speaker 1: Clone Wars and Rebels, are those two like beloved property?
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm not as in the I'm the
Speaker 1: general fan base, but I'm not like, you know, as
Speaker 1: hardcore as you are. Do our both of those shows,
Speaker 1: which are both animated. Um, are they both beloved the same?
Speaker 1: Do you feel like the fan base kind of latches
Speaker 1: onto one more than the other? I think they're pretty even. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so Clone Wars Lucas was just sort of like,
Speaker 1: I didn't get to do all the stories I want
Speaker 1: to do, I want to play, and he hired this
Speaker 1: young person is his kind of padawan learner Dave Filoni.
Speaker 1: So the Clone Wars are some great stuff because George
Speaker 1: Lucas would say, like, I have an idea, and then
Speaker 1: Feloni would kind of execute it. So it's kind of
Speaker 1: the best of both worlds. And then when Disney took
Speaker 1: over and they wanted the new animated series, Feloni ran Rebels,
Speaker 1: So there's a real connection in the Mandalorian. He's involved
Speaker 1: with the Mandalorian as well. Yeah, so there's a real
Speaker 1: like the Star Wars lore of there's always a wise
Speaker 1: master who passes on knowledge the young person, but then
Speaker 1: it's the young generations turned to pick up the mantle.
Speaker 1: Like that has literally happened in real life with George
Speaker 1: Lucas and Dave Foloni. Um. What about Yoda and Rebels. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he pops up, uh. I think at least once, maybe twice. Uh.
Speaker 1: And there's some interesting stuff there because Yo Dig admits.
Speaker 1: One of the big things is he admits that he
Speaker 1: made some mistakes in the in the prequel era, that
Speaker 1: he let his fear control him is a big thing
Speaker 1: in Star Wars that fear is the path to the
Speaker 1: dark side and another great kind of self help thing
Speaker 1: from Star Wars that as soon as you are afraid
Speaker 1: of losing something, then that makes you angry and hateful
Speaker 1: and all those kind of things. So, uh, that's a
Speaker 1: big part of his cannon, and that is kind of
Speaker 1: the place where he fully admits that he made some mistakes.
Speaker 1: You actually have a quote from him here from Rebels.
Speaker 1: It says, I lost my way for a long time,
Speaker 1: but now I have an opportunity to change things. And
Speaker 1: then he finishes with the last Chance. Um so I
Speaker 1: was just like what you were saying. Yeah, yeah, And
Speaker 1: he and he guides Ezra a little bit and guides
Speaker 1: him to his destiny, that he has a specific destiny,
Speaker 1: and he sort of implies that, yeah, it's okay to fight,
Speaker 1: but you need to figure out how to fight in
Speaker 1: and when to fight. So a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of continuing great Yoda wisdom, but he's not in Rebels
Speaker 1: a ton. It's just one or two pop ups. If
Speaker 1: you want fun gifts, if you're sitting around going how
Speaker 1: should I communicate with friends? There's so many great Yoda
Speaker 1: gifts that express disappointment, exasperation, wanting to go somewhere quickly.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite Yoda gifts. There's a moment in
Speaker 1: Revenge of the Sith when he's gonna confront Palpatine. He
Speaker 1: walks in and he does just a little hand gesture
Speaker 1: and two guards slam into the wall. It's great for
Speaker 1: when you're upset. Oh my gosh, I'm gonna handle this. Whoop.
Speaker 1: I think I gave I gave one of my ex
Speaker 1: is like a Yoda like Valentine. I think I said,
Speaker 1: like Yoda best Valentine or something. And now we're broken up,
Speaker 1: my dad humor. Um, so this is we talked. We
Speaker 1: kind of touched on Warner Warner her sog uh and
Speaker 1: it said, uh, that upond a bond seeing baby Yoda. Uh.
Speaker 1: He forgot. He was holding a puppet in again doing
Speaker 1: baby speak as the puppet had a song. I don't
Speaker 1: want to do someone have video of that. I really
Speaker 1: want all the weren't hurts behind the scenes, that audio
Speaker 1: of the cowards comment. I need that in my life.
Speaker 1: His baby cous Did you see that? Someone tweeted like
Speaker 1: the combination of it. It's a combination of animals and
Speaker 1: I think there's an actual voice being manipulated in that
Speaker 1: whole mix. So this tweet is from matthew Wood. It
Speaker 1: says Baby Yoda's voice by a combination of baby samples,
Speaker 1: bat eared Foxes, No wonder So Cute, Kinka Jews, and
Speaker 1: the sound design vocal talents of Dave Accord ps. He
Speaker 1: also voiced Baby Rohoda the Hutlet for the Clone Wars. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the jab the huts child. Well, and I saw
Speaker 1: the baby Java or whatever. Did you see that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that someone did of because it was like baby like,
Speaker 1: oh no, that's like, oh shoot, who else in Star
Speaker 1: Wars should have a baby kind of thing? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but there is. It's the Clone Wars movie that kicks
Speaker 1: off the whole series. Has got a lot of quality
Speaker 1: time with the job as Baby Rod of the Hutlet.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question? Why? So? Why does
Speaker 1: baby you to speak to you? Is it just the absolute,
Speaker 1: just intrinsic cuteness that you want to cuddle and take
Speaker 1: care of the baby. You know? I follow a lot
Speaker 1: of baby animals on Instagram, so yes, I mean I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be I follow a baby pig, I follow baby Fox,
Speaker 1: I follow Juniper the Fox. Shout out to everyone else
Speaker 1: that follows Juniper. Um, you know, I have my baby Molly.
Speaker 1: I think that he has this animal quality right too,
Speaker 1: and also like kind of baby like he's like a
Speaker 1: baby human hybrid, you know. Yeah, um, like just enough
Speaker 1: human qualities and movement, but also very much like a
Speaker 1: cute little animal. And um the cooing got me and
Speaker 1: his dumb little teeth that s his little teeth. I
Speaker 1: think he's just so innocent and needs Like yeah, he's strong,
Speaker 1: but like so innocent and just like calls to be
Speaker 1: protected and brings out like it's almost like he's a
Speaker 1: test himself, Like he's like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like attest to like the true your human nature, like
Speaker 1: if you're like you said with Mando, like that's his
Speaker 1: It's almost like he's called to protect this little thing
Speaker 1: like you cannot help you can't help it, and so
Speaker 1: like he's almost a testament himself of like to the
Speaker 1: good I guess, like it's like, oh, this was all
Speaker 1: a test just to see if you would take care
Speaker 1: of this, you know. It's like his species is innately
Speaker 1: like constantly testing people for the light that they have
Speaker 1: inside of them. Yeah, And I love that when we
Speaker 1: see him use the force, it just feels totally intuitive,
Speaker 1: like he saw this this guy who seems to be
Speaker 1: trying to protect him get hit by this big beast
Speaker 1: several times and look like he's going to I so,
Speaker 1: just out of total kindness and intuition, he reaches his
Speaker 1: little hand out and gives it as all and then
Speaker 1: has to take a picture nap his I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: lie his three footed feet, like I can't handle here something.
Speaker 1: He's normally wearing little brown loafers, but sometimes they're off
Speaker 1: and he has his little coffee and I hate it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh god, no, put it back unders out.
Speaker 1: Ryan Johnson presents claws out well if he is an
Speaker 1: actual parent. Do you get nervous about Mando's bad parenting
Speaker 1: of baby Yoda? No? No, I relate with Mando a lot,
Speaker 1: like especially when he that that trying to explain everything
Speaker 1: you need that child to do as if they're functioning
Speaker 1: adult and watching them like listen and then still do
Speaker 1: what they were going to do. Anyway, I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: all parents fall into that trap. I think, yeah, no logic.
Speaker 1: I want to hit that button and hands like I
Speaker 1: told you don't hit don't hit that, but oh my god,
Speaker 1: because it's bright. I'm not against all other franchises making
Speaker 1: baby versions of the ill but excepted. You see, someone
Speaker 1: made the baby Thanos and I was like, yes, snap,
Speaker 1: oh man, I was gonna say, is there anything else
Speaker 1: that we should mention that we left out? I know,
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of a mystery, to be honest,
Speaker 1: and that's why it was funny. Like um, our friend
Speaker 1: Ash Crossing who couldn't come on tonight, but she was
Speaker 1: going to be your your co guest and uh, I
Speaker 1: can't remember if it was her. Somebody like, well, actually,
Speaker 1: it's fascinating because there's not a ton known about the
Speaker 1: history of their species. Yeah, the species are really mysterious.
Speaker 1: And I think that's a big question of how deep
Speaker 1: is the Mandalorian going to go or is that going
Speaker 1: to be part of it? Of like, we don't know
Speaker 1: where this baby came from. Mean people wanted for I
Speaker 1: want to take some samples for it for something, and
Speaker 1: we don't know. And I think that's a big part
Speaker 1: of the fun, fun mystery. And I think it's possible
Speaker 1: that we won't learn a lot more and we'll stay
Speaker 1: mysterious in this will just be a new character we
Speaker 1: get to know. Oh, I have a question, do you
Speaker 1: think that they're from eggs. I would love them to
Speaker 1: just come from somewhere weird at one point the belly button.
Speaker 1: I want them to come from him. This mysterious unfound
Speaker 1: moon full of forest powers, and it's got some trees
Speaker 1: and every once in a while the trees just drip rows.
Speaker 1: Like I want it to be something like they are
Speaker 1: deeply connected, they are of the forest and like every
Speaker 1: you know, two thousand years four drips. I would love
Speaker 1: that because there's something just really I think, deep and
Speaker 1: fun and spiritual about them as as truly mysterious creatures,
Speaker 1: you know. And I don't want it to be like
Speaker 1: I mean, there was all the jokes and it's fun
Speaker 1: of like when did Yoden Yett to look up and
Speaker 1: like leave some mystery? Let him drink from a tree? Yeah? Never.
Speaker 1: They probably mate by touching fingers or something. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: if he in in dragon Ball, Piccolo his species, they
Speaker 1: like remember that scene where he's like coughing out an egg.
Speaker 1: He's like spitting up an egg. So I feel like
Speaker 1: that could be what happens. Oh yeah, yeah, I love that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe it's a Gremlins thing, like one of their rights.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the only other thing that
Speaker 1: that I don't know if we touched on a lot,
Speaker 1: that I'd like to say about Yoda is I think
Speaker 1: one of the great things about his character is that
Speaker 1: he does have a sense of humor, in a sense
Speaker 1: of whimsy and like when the character is relaxing at
Speaker 1: his best. There's a scene in Attack the Clones where
Speaker 1: Obi one is looking for information because he can't find
Speaker 1: a planet in the archive, and Yoda turns to all
Speaker 1: the little kids he's training. Master ob One has lost
Speaker 1: a planet. How embarrassing. How embarrassing. It's just like he
Speaker 1: feels like you're kind of your sweet old uncle who
Speaker 1: has this sense of Yeah, I've got all this wisdom,
Speaker 1: I know all this philosophy, I've got all these concerns
Speaker 1: and responsibilities. But the reason we're doing all this is
Speaker 1: because life is beautiful and it's good to be with
Speaker 1: people you care about and appreciate and have a sense
Speaker 1: of whimsy and joy. And I think that is a
Speaker 1: huge part of Yoda's character as well. Yoda, um, well,
Speaker 1: y'all have been asking us to touch on Star Wars
Speaker 1: and if he and I have put it off for
Speaker 1: almost two years, mainly just because it's such a huge thing,
Speaker 1: so we thought, okay, maybe we can tackle characters or um,
Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna so starting in the new year,
Speaker 1: we're actually going to do a multipart dive into Star
Speaker 1: Wars some of the things that don't always get talked about,
Speaker 1: like having an entire episode devoted to Yoda. Yeah, so
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