1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: Well, in the words of Oliver Wendell Holmes, man's mind 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 2: stretched to a new dimension never returns to its original state. 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 2: And on that note, it's right you heard the band 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: that time of week. My name is Bernie Fredderwork, coming 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 2: to you live from the tirac dot com Fox Sports 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: Radio studios here in Las Vegas, Nevada. Tyraq dot com 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: will help you get there, an unmatched selection, fast free 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: shipping for your road hazard protection and over ten thousand 10 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: recommended installers tireract dot com the way tire buying should be. 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 2: And yes, we will stretch your mind the next four hours. 12 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: We break some ground tonight, beginning with the AFC West odds, 13 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 2: and over the next eight weeks we'll have a divisional 14 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: preview for every NFL team. We dive heavily into Major 15 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: League Baseball, the NBA, the NFL, college football. One am, 16 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: I'm going to give a tribute to the late great 17 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: Kurt Flood. You would not be hearing about these free 18 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: agent contracts without Kurt Flood. Much more on the show tonight, 19 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 2: of course, brand new fool and what my name and 20 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 2: as you know, as they say in Kirby Puckett, Minnesota. 21 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 2: It's it's gonna be lit. But we are in the 22 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: throws of Major League Baseball second half. It's now officially 23 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 2: started the All Star breaks. In the rearview mirror, ish 24 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: is gonna get real. Teams are back in action. There's 25 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 2: been some great series the last two days. Marlin's, Orioles, Diamondbacks, 26 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: Blue Jays, Reds, Brewers, Astros, Angels. How about the Angels 27 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: thirteen to twelve tonight someone missed an extra point. Finally, 28 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 2: don't give up on the Angel just yet, That's what 29 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,559 Speaker 2: they say. So what do we pay attention to most? 30 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: What are the headlines over the next Well, let's see, 31 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: we've got the remainder of July, August and September, so 32 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: plenty of baseball left, about seventy ish games per team, 33 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: maybe a little less forst and foremost Shoheo Tani, most 34 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: compelling player in baseball, and even though the Angels have 35 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: been very disappointing in the last couple of weeks, he's 36 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: having the best offensive season of his career. Hit his 37 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: thirty third home run tonight. Not out of the question. 38 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 2: He could make a run a judge's sixty two. It's 39 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 2: a little bit of a long shot, not out of 40 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 2: the question. I get it. Otani's pitching numbers have slipped 41 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 2: a bit compared to last season. Still he's excellent. Leads 42 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: the majors with just six hits allowed per nine innings. 43 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: Otani has a chance to do something no other player's 44 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: ever done before, lead the majors in both the hitting 45 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 2: and a pitching stat in the same season. Okay, Also, 46 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: you can't dismiss the possibility, as August First gets closer, 47 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 2: that Otani is potentially traded. I'm on record, I'm not 48 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 2: changing my mind. I say it's unlikely. They pay me 49 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: to have opinions. That's my opinion. It's an educated opinion. 50 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: I don't think the Angels are gonna trade him, but 51 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: you can't rule out the possibility that some team would 52 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: send the proverbial offer. The Angels can't refuse because they 53 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: need Otani for a playoff run, even though they're risking 54 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: things as well. You might only run him for a 55 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: couple of months. But hey, hey, look what the Yankees 56 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 2: did back in twenty sixteen. They trade the Cubs, acquire 57 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 2: Ralda's Chapman, win the Pennant, and the Yankees signed chapping 58 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 2: back in free agency and as part of the Hall 59 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: they got labor tours, but the Yankee stuff won anything since, 60 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 2: so you get the point. Cincinnati Reds, they've been a 61 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: tremendous pleasant surprise. Yes, they've dropped their last couple of Milwaukee. 62 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: It's like a defective playoff series. They're won back now. 63 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 2: They had a you know, twenty twenty decent season in 64 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: the expanded playoff field. Reds have made the postseason for 65 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: real in ten years. They're fifteen to forty three. They've 66 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: they're owing too since their break. They let the Brewers 67 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: catch them a couple times, but they're only one game back. 68 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: So the key to their success. You gotta love their 69 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: youth movement. Man, their top prospects have made their debuts 70 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: this season. They stepped right into the major leagues. Like 71 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 2: veterans Matt McClain he's sitting over three hundred and fifty games, 72 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: or shortstop Spencer Steer fourteen home runs that he plays 73 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: first base. In case you didn't know, Andrew Abbott a 74 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: two point three era. He's only had seven starts, but 75 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: he's been outstanding. And then of course Ellie de la 76 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: Cruz in thirty games He's made a compelling case. He 77 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,119 Speaker 2: might be right now the most electrifying player in the game. 78 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: And when he did that, he had that stealing three 79 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 2: bases in two pitches last week, that was epic. Okay, 80 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: he has power, he has speed, he has flair, he 81 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 2: has an incredibly high baseball like you. He's turned the 82 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 2: Great American Ballpark an exciting place to watch a game. 83 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 2: The Reds are what, averaging seven thousand in April? Look 84 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 2: at him now? The owner was threatening to move, laughed 85 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 2: at the fan said, where you're gonna go. I'll say 86 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: we're gonna go. You're going down with a Great American 87 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: ballpark and grab yourself a Huta pole and a met 88 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,119 Speaker 2: and a brot and you're gonna sit there and cheer 89 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: for the Red That's what you're gonna do. How about 90 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: Lewis a rise? Okay, I don't think he's gonna hit 91 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 2: four hundred, but he's sitting three eighty. Six weeks ago, 92 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: he was hitting four to one. Plenty of conversation. Could 93 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: he be the first four hundred hitter since Ted Williams? 94 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: You know, had a bit of a cold streak. He 95 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: was only hitting like two ninety one in his last 96 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 2: fourteen games, but he's still about three eighty six. Look, 97 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 2: even if Arez doesn't make history, the Marlins are still 98 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,119 Speaker 2: one of the more fascinating teams to watch as well. 99 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: This guy swings the magic Womp two hits in the 100 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: All Star Game. It's cheerful. This is great for baseball. 101 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 2: Do you wonder why a tenants is up? Revenues are up, 102 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 2: fans are getting younger. The rule changes have worked well 103 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 2: over the final two months of the season. Okay, the 104 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: Marlins are going to be one of the fascinating teams 105 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 2: to watch. Who saw this. They're fifty three and thirty nine. 106 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: They're winning percentage is five to seventy six. They're on 107 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: a pace to win about ninety three games. And I 108 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: would say in this man's playoffs, that's good position to 109 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: get them, you know, to be in the playoffs, to 110 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 2: be maybe be a wild card if they don't win 111 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: their division and their negative run differential is not good. 112 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: But they're twenty one and six and one run games, 113 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: so they could come back down to earth like the 114 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings might. But for now you are watching. You 115 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: are very much watching Luis Aures and the Miami Marlins. 116 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 2: How about the AL East Gauntlet not out of the question. No, 117 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: this is not. Do not change that dial. Four out 118 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: of five teams in the AL East could end up 119 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: making the playoffs. That's right, four of the five teams 120 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 2: could make the playoffs. The Rays lead the division, but 121 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: the last place Red Sox still five games over five 122 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: thirty nine games back. Now, the Orioles currently hold the 123 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 2: top wildcard card spot their fifty six and thirty five, 124 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: and the Blue Jays and Astros retired for the last two. 125 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 2: But the Yankees are one game out of the wildcard 126 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: and the Red Sox are only two games out. So 127 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 2: a Major League Baseball's new balance schedule, well, it reduces 128 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: the number of games with team division opponents, so it's 129 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: going to be a dogfight over the and a half 130 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 2: of the season. Finally, this is why these things are 131 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 2: so tough to predict. Like Yogi Berra said, it's tough 132 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: to make predictions, especially if it's about the future. Two 133 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: Major League Baseball's highest spending teams are facing a tremendous 134 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: uphill battle just to make the playoffs after entering the 135 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: season as very trendy World Series picks. We start with 136 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: the Mets. We don't need to go any further. You 137 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 2: know what's happening with them. And then the Padres, who 138 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: I said before the season, I like the composition of 139 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: this team. This is fantasy baseball. I don't like the Padres. 140 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: Both Mets and Padres well under five hundred. They have 141 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: baseballs first and third highest payrels, respectively. Both teams are 142 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: scrambling just to sneak into the playoff playoffs. Padres six 143 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 2: and a half games behind the Diamondbacks for the final 144 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: wildcard spot. Mets are eight games out. Can't either of 145 00:07:55,080 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: them get hot before August? Or Dare I say? Might 146 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: either of those teams be sellers at the trade line? 147 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 2: Surely you jes no, don't call me. Surely, and yes 148 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: it's possible. Steve Cohen said he'd had about enough. He 149 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: spent the money. Look, you can't buy love you, Canyon. 150 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: This is a beauty of baseball. Sparky Anderson said it best. 151 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 2: It's a marathon, great evening out process. One hundred and 152 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: sixty two games. You gotta throw strikes, put it in play, 153 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 2: run the bases and catch the ball night in, not out. 154 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: It's a simple game. Don't beat yourself. More games are 155 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 2: lost than one. I don't know what the hell happened 156 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 2: to the Mets. I don't They're a good team on paper. 157 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 2: Potres different story. It's against a law of practice psychology 158 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: without a license, so I won't tell you what I 159 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 2: really think about that team. They were better last year, 160 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 2: and I think it's a beautiful place to see a game, 161 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 2: and they got plenty of luminaries, plenty of show ponies, 162 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 2: but they're not winning games on the field, and I 163 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 2: don't think they can start anytime soon. Cut up big 164 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: doings this week in college football. You heard what happened 165 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 2: in Northwestern. I think this book's missed in the chapter. 166 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 2: We're gonna take a deeper dive Aaron Torres and join 167 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: us in about five minutes. At the end of your 168 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: first year, Discover credit cards automatically double all the cash 169 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: back you've earned. That's right, everything you've earned doubled. Seriously 170 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: see terms. Check it out to yourself at Discover dot com. 171 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 2: Slash match. I'm Bernie Frattle, coming to you live from 172 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Tirack dot com studios. 173 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: Keep it locked. 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The 194 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 2: case of West Virginia Don Wright bizarre. Who better to 195 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 2: bring in than our college guru, Aaron torres erin how 196 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: you doing, Buddy. 197 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 4: So Bernie, It's funny that you frame it that way. 198 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 4: I was telling my wife about three or four days 199 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 4: ago about the whole Bob Huggins situation, and then we 200 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 4: were doing a little FaceTime with my mom last night, 201 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 4: and she asked me about the Northwestern situation. All this 202 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 4: coach gets fired, but now he's trying to get all 203 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 4: his money, and my wife assumed that it was the 204 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 4: other coach that I had told her about that's trying 205 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 4: to get his money at his place. So obviously it's 206 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 4: two completely different stories. Essentially, it's the same story as 207 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 4: coach gets fired. Both feel like it's unjust whether it 208 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 4: is or not we can get into, but they want 209 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 4: their money, and it's gonna be fascinating to watch each 210 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 4: story unfold. 211 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 2: In this case, let's come in the back door and 212 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 2: start with the Huggins story because it was very much 213 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: overshadowed a few days ago when Northwestern fired Pat Fitzgerald. 214 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 2: But we're gonna get to that in a second. Bill 215 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 2: Huggins seemed to me as bizarre because he's saying he 216 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: didn't resign, but even if he didn't resign, he had 217 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:38,119 Speaker 2: the homophobic slur, a misstep sound the radio, got suspended 218 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: for three games, got a salary, reduced and he's facing 219 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: a DUI charge. What is happening at West Virginia. How 220 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 2: is it that Bob Huggins believes he can get his 221 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 2: job back and is just headed to court. 222 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't even really know what to 223 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 4: say to that, Bernie, because I don't, like, I think 224 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 4: there's a little bit of delusion. I think what's kind 225 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 4: of disappointing is and I'm not a moralist by any stretch, 226 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 4: but I don't think Bob Huggins understands the severity of 227 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 4: what he did. Like like, Bob Huggins is acting like 228 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 4: you know, he I don't know whatever he did something 229 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 4: that isn't like you know, like if you look into 230 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 4: the Bob Huggins story, this was a guy that blew 231 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 4: almost three times a legal limit blood alcohol level, didn't 232 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 4: not a city he was in, thought he was in Columbus, Ohio. 233 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 4: He was in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, blows out a tire in 234 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 4: the middle of a busy road, was a danger to 235 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 4: everyone around him. And so the only thing I can 236 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 4: really think of Bernie, I don't necessarily believe that he 237 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 4: truly believes he should get his job back, but I 238 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 4: do think what ends up happening is there's some complications 239 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 4: about firing somebody or or you know, accepting a resignation 240 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 4: if you will, with the substance abuse thing, and that's 241 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 4: something for the lawyers to get figured out. But essentially, 242 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 4: you know, there are state laws that protect people who 243 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 4: are going through some kind of substance abuse situation from 244 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 4: being fired, basically from being discriminated. Again that I can say. 245 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 4: Living in Los Angeles, I remember this was a story 246 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 4: when Steve's Sarkisian was fired at USC because of alcohol 247 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,479 Speaker 4: related offenses, and he basically sued the schools saying, you're 248 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 4: violating my rights to seek help from my addiction. Now, 249 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 4: I don't remember Steve's Sarkisian winning. I don't think Bob 250 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 4: Huggins is going to win. And the one thing I 251 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 4: can definitively say Bob Huggins is not getting his job back. 252 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 4: He might win some court case, or he might get 253 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 4: some portion of his salary back, but he is not 254 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 4: getting that job back. Just a totally totally bizarre story 255 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 4: burning well. 256 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 2: Under the contract Huggins signed in twenty twenty one, there's 257 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 2: a stipulation that the university could fire him for cause 258 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 2: regarding your little conduct resulting in criminal charges your respective 259 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 2: there's a conviction that. Then the Huggins thing to me 260 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 2: is just bizarre. I mean not didn't as goodhead. 261 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 5: You know. 262 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 4: All I was going to really add is you're exactly right, 263 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 4: and they're and Bernie, you've been covering this stuff. He've 264 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 4: belonging than I have. There's a clause in every contract 265 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 4: which is very vague about basically you can be fired 266 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 4: with cause for any conduct detrimental, like anything that basically 267 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 4: puts the university in a bad light. This clearly did. 268 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 4: Now again, I think he's arguing I never really resigned. 269 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 4: It was sent from my wife's email address. Whatever the 270 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 4: case is, the bottom line is he's never coaching another 271 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 4: game for West Virginia again. And I don't. I don't. 272 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 4: The one thing I can't really put my finger on 273 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 4: is this really uh Does he really have some sort 274 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 4: of delusion that he's going to get this job back 275 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 4: or does he just want to try to get some 276 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 4: some last minute money out of it. My guess would 277 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 4: it be is that it's the latter, because I think 278 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 4: if he thinks he's getting his job, that's the most 279 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 4: delusional thing. 280 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 2: I've ever heard, believe it or not. I think he's 281 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 2: trying to get his job. But we'll see. Let's slip 282 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 2: back to Northwestern because this is also very awkward and 283 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 2: I'm not taking any sides here, nor am I condoning 284 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 2: what the allegations were at Northwestern. It's incredulous when you 285 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: hear some of these rituals. But here's what throws me 286 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 2: for a loop, Aaron, I feel like this book is 287 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 2: missing a chapter. They go from a two week suspension 288 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: two days later they fire him. What changed in the 289 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: interim between the suspension and the firing. Do you have 290 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 2: any idea? 291 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 4: The only thing that I think changed is that you 292 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 4: have a school president new to the school, has probably 293 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 4: never faced any sort of public scrutiny, and I think 294 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 4: he buckled under the public pressure. I really do, because 295 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 4: for people who don't know the backstory, and I'll try 296 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 4: to be brief here, Bernie, I know you know it, 297 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 4: but essentially, there was allegations of hazing, and actually to 298 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 4: the school's credit. As soon as the allegations came forward 299 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 4: in November, the school hired a private investigator or an 300 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 4: outside investigative group to look into it. And that's what 301 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 4: you're supposed to do in the situation, is you hire 302 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 4: somebody outside so that there's no ifsands or boughts about 303 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 4: are you doing this the right way or you're trying 304 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 4: to cover something up. The problem is is that the 305 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 4: investigation found that Pat Fitzgerald didn't know about what was 306 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 4: going on, and so, you know, to keep a simple 307 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 4: equation is whatever. I'm not even gonna make an analogy, 308 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 4: but the point is is that if the investigator finds 309 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 4: that the coach doesn't know, and then to your point, 310 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 4: you let him go. You decided to suspend him because 311 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 4: you felt that he had an obligation to know more. 312 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 4: Nothing changed, no facts change. And that's why I think 313 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 4: that Bubba and Pat Fitzgerald kind of had a very 314 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 4: interestingly worded statement through his lawyer, which is that you know, 315 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 4: the president acted unilaterally and went back on our decision. 316 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 4: I think Pat Fitzgerald is going to fight this thing 317 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 4: tooth and nail and basically say, like, we had an agreement. 318 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 4: I did not know about this, and I don't think 319 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 4: I should be held responsible for things that I didn't 320 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 4: know about. I actually think there's an interesting conversation about 321 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 4: you know what a coach should know what he's expected 322 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 4: to know. Because we're gonna have the coach of the 323 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 4: two time national champion, Kirby Smart, at SEC media Days 324 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 4: this week after about a dozen of his players have 325 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 4: been arrested this offseason. He's gotten one to one hundredth 326 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 4: of the negativity that Pat Fitzgerald has gotten, despite the 327 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 4: fact that an outside investigator did not find that Pat 328 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 4: Fitzgerald knew what was going on with this hazing situation. 329 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 4: So I think it's an interesting conversation about what a 330 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,239 Speaker 4: coach is expected to know, should know, does know. But 331 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 4: I believe based on the information that we have, unless 332 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 4: there's some information that Northwestern is hiding or hasn't revealed yet, 333 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 4: I don't believe Pat Pat Fitzgerald should. 334 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: Have been fired. It's interesting. So the president of Northwestern, 335 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 2: I believe after the firing indicated what you said more 336 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 2: having to do with Pat Fitzgerald should have paid more attention. 337 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 2: If he didn't know, he should have known. Here's where 338 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 2: it gets hazy for me, because let's draw a parallel. 339 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 2: When Tennessee fired Jeremy Prewt in twenty twenty one, they 340 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 2: negated as bout, which is almost thirteen million, and I 341 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 2: believe it held up. And then it was a year 342 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 2: later that the NCAA notified Tennessee there were eighteen rules 343 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 2: violations under pruit. So with that as a template, do 344 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 2: you think Northwestern fights hard to not pay fitzgerald is 345 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 2: fifty six million? Do they have an agreement, do they 346 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 2: find a settlement or do you think this sends up 347 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 2: in court? 348 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 4: I think they eventually settled on something. I mean, the 349 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 4: thing with Jeremy Prewitt is is that you know, he 350 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 4: broke NCAA rules, and so obviously there was still a 351 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 4: fine and they still had to pay a significant amount 352 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 4: of money to Jeremy Prewitt, even though it wasn't the 353 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 4: full thirteen million. I would buy out with Pat Fitzgerald, 354 00:18:58,200 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 4: you know, again, it comes down to kind of what 355 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 4: he just said a minute ago, Bernie with Bob Huggins, 356 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 4: is is there something in the contract? Is there something 357 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 4: that explicitly states that essentially that he can be fired 358 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 4: simply for some sort of conduct that's detrimental to the 359 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 4: university or whatever verbie is they want to use. That's 360 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 4: going to be interesting to me because again, I just 361 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 4: don't understand why you're hiring an outside investigator saying, whatever 362 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 4: you decide, we're going to stick with. And then the 363 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 4: investigation comes back that Pat Fitzgerald didn't know, and then 364 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 4: the school president said he's expected to know, he should 365 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 4: have known. I just something doesn't add up there. And 366 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 4: again Pat Fitzgerald is another one. Definitively this one, I 367 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 4: can say for sure. He's absolutely gonna fight it, and 368 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 4: I think he's got a little bit of a case 369 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 4: to be perfectly honest. 370 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 2: Oh, there's no question, and I think you nail it 371 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 2: with respect to Hill backtracking after the backlash in public pressure. 372 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 2: So this story is far from over. I know that 373 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 2: Pat Fitzgerald is taking legal action against Northwestern and he's 374 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 2: I think he's going to claim breach because after the 375 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 2: two weeks suspension turned into the determination, there's supposed to 376 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 2: be some sort of prior notification which didn't happen, so 377 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 2: they breached the process. 378 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 4: Are Bernie really quick to you agree that? It feels 379 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 4: more like the school president felt a bunch of public pressure, 380 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 4: and he's an academic that's probably never really doubt anything 381 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 4: like this before I do. 382 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 2: I do, Aaron, because they bury the suspension in the 383 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 2: middle of summer two weeks, all right, so they can 384 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 2: chomp on and move on on a Friday, and then 385 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 2: all of a sudden there's tremendous public backlash and then 386 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: he fires Fitzgerald. So there's a there's a definite correlation. 387 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 2: There's a definite nexus between those two. Final thing on 388 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 2: this And I'm being dead serious, believe it or not. 389 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 2: And this may be out there, not that I'm some guru, 390 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 2: but my moles are telling me. Ed Orsern he's already 391 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 2: contacted the university and he wants the job. I come on, man, 392 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 2: ed orgs around at Northwestern? What's better than that? Have 393 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 2: you heard about that? 394 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 5: Well? 395 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 4: You know Coacho denied it, and I know Bruce Felman 396 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 4: has a great relationship with him, wrote a book with them, 397 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 4: maybe two books. Claim that there was nothing to it, 398 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 4: But listen, burn you know, I know when ed Orgeron 399 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 4: resigned at LSU, he called it his dream job. They 400 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 4: give him twenty million. He said, what door do you 401 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 4: want me to leave? But you know, when you listen, 402 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 4: when you do something your entire life. And by the way, 403 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 4: I bring it up because ed Orgeron said, I never 404 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 4: planned to coach again. But at the same time, when 405 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 4: you do something your entire life. When you are as 406 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 4: powerful as ed Orgeron was in the state of Louisiana, 407 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 4: I think it's just hard to just go into retirement 408 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 4: and just being a civilian is forget forget the monetary, 409 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 4: you know, forget being paid millions of dollars. I think 410 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 4: it's the power that comes with it, the importance where 411 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 4: all of a sudden you go from the most important 412 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 4: person in your respective state to just another guy that 413 00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 4: has a lot of money. But what does money buy? 414 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 4: And so you know, Orgeron's in his sixties, his kids 415 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 4: are out. 416 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 6: Of the house. 417 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 4: You know, he went through a divorce. You know the cliches, 418 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 4: But I think it's true. There's only so much golf 419 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 4: you can play, There's only so many vacations you can 420 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 4: play at Orgzeron is very clearly a healthy sixty one 421 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 4: sixty sixty two year old. He works out every day. 422 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 4: I don't think this guy is just a guy that 423 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 4: wants to play golf and hang out at the beach 424 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 4: every day for the next ten to fifteen years. So 425 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 4: I remember when the Colorado job first opened, there was 426 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 4: like a very faint hint that he might be interested 427 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 4: that went away very quickly. But it wouldn't surprise me 428 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 4: if he continues to be linked to these jobs, because again, 429 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 4: I just I don't think most of these guys, when 430 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 4: you've been doing something, when you've been putting in twenty 431 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 4: hour days since you were twenty one twenty two years old, 432 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 4: I think it's hard to just step away and be 433 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 4: totally content. I mean, I don't go along here. But 434 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 4: as an example, even Bob Stoops he stepped away and 435 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 4: said the grind was too much for him. Well, what 436 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 4: a Bob Stoops do this summer? Who's coaching the XFL. 437 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 4: So I think that Itch is always going to be there. 438 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,479 Speaker 4: And whether he really wants this job or not, I 439 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 4: know he said when LSU fired him that he was 440 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 4: done in coaching. I don't think I believe it. 441 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 2: Good stuff, Aaron, get some rest. 442 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 4: Buddy, all right, thank you, Barny, I have a grady. 443 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 4: They have a great rest of the show. 444 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: Thanks Aaron. Taurus are college guru. And look, I believe 445 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 2: that Ordron has interest. Do I know for sure? No? 446 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 2: But I think he just ran up the flagpole. See 447 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 2: if I onny of it had saluted. Do I think 448 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 2: it'll happen? Probably not? But man, I love the seat. 449 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 2: I love Coacho. Everybody loves Coacho, trust me, especially the 450 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 2: players who played for him. Another guy everybody loves. Do 451 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 2: I think he's going to be traded. No, but if 452 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: he is, there are only five teams I think they 453 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 2: could possibly make sense. We'll dive into that in just 454 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 2: a second, but first it's going our guy Steve the 455 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 2: Seger with the latest. 456 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 7: You're talking about me here? What trade rumers? 457 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 2: Why No, you're untradeable, my friend, we don't want to 458 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 2: trade you. 459 00:23:58,520 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 7: I'm not sure about that either. 460 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 8: Well, let's get to the baseball and it was an 461 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 8: incredible final game tonight on the schedule in the Major 462 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 8: leagues in Anaheim, Angels with a comeback ten inning victory 463 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 8: over Houston thirteen to twelve. Got three runs bottom of 464 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 8: the ninth to tie that included a Shoheo Tani home 465 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 8: run is thirty third to lead the Majors. The game 466 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 8: winning run in the ten scored on a throwing air. 467 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 8: Yankees were up six to one in the second inning 468 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 8: at Colorado and beat the Rocky six to three. Gen 469 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 8: Carlos Stanton a three run homer. He's betting two thirteen 470 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 8: Detroit one at Seattle six nothing, holding the MS offense 471 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 8: to three for twenty eight with twelve strikeouts. Milwaukee's first 472 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 8: in the NL Central game over the red shutout Cincinnati 473 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 8: again three nothing held the Reds to one hit for Milwaukee. 474 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 8: That's three straight shutout wins this past week. Minnesota lone 475 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 8: and first in the AL Central game and a half 476 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 8: over Cleveland. Minnesota won at Oakland ten to seven. A's 477 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 8: have lost six in a row. Attendance there today was 478 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 8: ten thousand. Baltimore won at seventh straight six ' five 479 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 8: over Miami despite the four hits from Luis Aarriaz to 480 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 8: the Marlins, who's batting three eighty six. White Sox held 481 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 8: on for a win at Atlanta six to five, beating 482 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 8: All Star pitcher Spencer Strider, who was eleven and two. 483 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 8: Ronald Acunya hit two home runs in the loss. Dodgers 484 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 8: won their sixth in a row. Giants won their fourth straight. 485 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 8: Toronto beat Arizona five two, so the Diamondbacks now two 486 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 8: games back of the first place Dodgers in the NL West. 487 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 8: Wins today for the Cubs and Texas, Washington and Saint 488 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 8: Louis split a doubleheader. Tampa Bay won two at Kansas 489 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 8: City and Philadelphia, swept a twin bill against the Padres. 490 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 8: Rory McElroy leads the Scottish Open by one stroke going 491 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 8: into the final round. He'll tee off in about an 492 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 8: hour and a half. Overseas, Steph Curry leads the Celebrity 493 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 8: Golf Tournament in Lake Tahoe. The Wimbledon Men's Final is. 494 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 7: At nine a m. 495 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 8: Eastern time. It'll be number two Novak Djokovic against number 496 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 8: one seed Carlos Alcarez. The ladies champions Marquette van Drusiva 497 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 8: the first unseated woman to take the title there. On 498 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 8: the women's side, she won six four to sixty four 499 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 8: over On Shibor, who's now lost three Grand Slam finals 500 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 8: in roughly the last one year. She defeated three top 501 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 8: ten opponents to get to this final. And Yes, Vegas 502 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 8: did have the WNBA All Star Game tonight. Brianna Stewart's 503 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 8: team one game MVP Jewel Lloyd thirty one points. Nearly 504 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 8: every shot she took was a three point attempt. She 505 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 8: was ten of twenty one from long distance. 506 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 2: Back to you, Steve, quickly your thoughts on Shohei Otani. 507 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 2: Put on your general manager Cap would you trade Otani or. 508 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 8: Not tonight if they had lost a game like tonight's. 509 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 8: In other words, continuing the wretched couple of weeks that 510 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 8: the Angels have had, then we're still on the path 511 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 8: to trading him by the time we get to the deadline, 512 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 8: which is only two and a half weeks away. This 513 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 8: ended a six game losing streak, this Halo's victory tonight. 514 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 8: I don't see if you have instead of a bad 515 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 8: two weeks, a bad four weeks to the deadline. I 516 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 8: don't see how you can live with yourself as a 517 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 8: front office person by having this bad a tanking. 518 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 7: And I don't mean on purpose. 519 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 8: I just mean their season is done after a stretch 520 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 8: like this, and not get something for Otani because clearly 521 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 8: he would not be returning to a franchise like this. 522 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 2: So let me run this by you because I had 523 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 2: kind of a brain cramp the other night. Remember what 524 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 2: the Cubs did in twenty sixteen. They traded for Eraaldus Chapman, 525 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 2: The Yankees let them go, The Cubs win the World Series. 526 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 2: Then in free agency, the Yankees sign eraalas Chapman back 527 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 2: and as part of the Hall they got they even 528 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 2: got glabor Taurus, which was probably the Cub's best prospect 529 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 2: at the time. Could the Angels dare they consider a 530 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 2: maneuver like that where they trade Otani get the best 531 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 2: haul they can, but then go back in free agency 532 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 2: and try to resign him. 533 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 8: They would try to resign him, certainly, as they would 534 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 8: even if they hold on to him, try to resign it. 535 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 8: The bad news is is Mike Trout's track record, for example, 536 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 8: as the star of the Angels for the last well 537 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 8: over a decade, how many players as he won? 538 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 7: The answer is zero. 539 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 8: It's not that O'tani can't make the playoffs there You 540 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 8: just know, as JD. Martinez said when he joined the Dodgers, 541 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 8: I'm here because you guys are always in it. You 542 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 8: guys are always having the chance for the thing that 543 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 8: I want. And that's why he and now he's an 544 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 8: All Star DH this year as a Dodger. That's why 545 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 8: he went to that place, chose that place. And I 546 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 8: remember that the Dodgers when Otani was first coming over 547 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 8: here at a younger age to the major leagues, the 548 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 8: Dodgers made a big stink of having Kershaw there present 549 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 8: and trying to convince him, and they had their meetings 550 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 8: with him, but there was no DH in the National 551 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 8: League back then. I don't think the Dodgers had a 552 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 8: realistic chance at all to get him back then. They 553 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 8: do now. 554 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 2: No, it's very true. All right, good stuff, Steve. I 555 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 2: you know, every time I think about this, the Bunyan's 556 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: act up. I just I just can't see them trading him. 557 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 2: I will see, we will see, Steve said two and 558 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: a half weeks. It's one of those situations, since this 559 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 2: is show business, and I would try to build around him, 560 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 2: even if this season goes off a cliff, even if 561 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 2: you do your best to sign on free agency. We 562 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 2: hear the group think echo Chambier and narrative, Oh, you 563 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 2: can't let him go against the sevent eighth pick. Look, 564 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 2: the Angels are all of a sudden can get a haul. 565 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 2: This is a front office it's been able that hasn't 566 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: been able to really scout and develop in fifteen years. 567 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 2: But all of a sudden, they're gonna magically bring in 568 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 2: a bunch of prospects and start over and they're gonna 569 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 2: be contenders in three years. I'm just not buying it. 570 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 2: I need to wait and see what happens. I hope 571 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: they don't trade Otani. Interestingly enough, I think there are 572 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 2: only five teams that make sense if he ends up 573 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 2: elsewhere in twenty twenty four. And as Steve said, the Dodgers, 574 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 2: it's a real possibility if Atani wants stream in on 575 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 2: the West Coast, he could stay in Los Angeles join 576 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 2: the Dodgers that they immediately become a super team. They 577 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 2: are World Series favorites, you know, just throw their mits 578 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 2: on the field and they're World Series favorites. Right, Can 579 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 2: you Mookie Bets Freddie Freeman Choi Atani on the same 580 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 2: team not only must see television, I mean, Mookie Bets. 581 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 2: The ball must look like a beach ball to him. 582 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 2: Now he's got like fourteen home runs in his last 583 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 2: twenty seven games. Is going crazy. It's just a tantalizing idea. 584 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 2: Now do I think the Angels would trade to the Dodgers. 585 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 2: I don't think so. If you know the history of 586 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 2: those two franchises, they don't particularly like each other. The 587 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 2: Dodgers are able to draw fans in Orange County, but 588 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 2: the Angels in their history have never really been successful 589 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 2: in drawing fans from Los Angeles. They're not that far apart. 590 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 2: They're in the Greater La Orange County area. But the 591 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 2: Dodgers own that market. They just simply do. So it 592 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 2: would be inn an ethma. I think Frati Moreno to 593 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 2: see Otani end up in a Dodger uniform, so I 594 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 2: don't think he trade him there. Could he end up 595 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 2: there in free agency? Possible another team, the New York Yankees. 596 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 2: You could conceivably see a ton in New York. You 597 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 2: pair him up with Aaron Judge. That would make the 598 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 2: Yankees exciting, at least on paper, since the heyday of 599 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 2: Jeter and Aron. Okay, New York the perfect market for 600 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 2: someone of Otani's talents. He'd be very appreciated in New York. 601 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 2: You know, the Yankees would go all in. I'm maximizing 602 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 2: having Otani on their roster. They could pay him just 603 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 2: about anything they'd want. And I think it would be 604 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 2: annoying for Yankee haters, but come on, the opposite of 605 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 2: love is not hate, it's indifference. People would hate watch 606 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 2: the Yankees to see if they could pull this off. Remember, 607 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 2: the Yankees haven't exactly won anything in a while either, 608 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 2: and Otani could probably help them. So the Seattle Mariners. 609 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 2: The All Star Game was in Seattle this past week. 610 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 2: It won. The reporter asked Otani about wondering if he'd 611 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,239 Speaker 2: like to join the Mariners, and Otani kind of had 612 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 2: the cheapest look on his face and kind of shrugged, 613 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 2: and that became a minor story over all Star weekend. 614 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 2: But again, Seattle, a good looking team designs on making 615 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 2: the playoffs this year. They've got an excellent chance to 616 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 2: do it. He'd immediately they make Seattle a more likely 617 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 2: contender in the American League. And if, again, if Otani 618 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 2: wants to go to a team where he'd become the 619 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 2: face of the franchise instantly, Seattle might be the best 620 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 2: fit of any of them. How about the Atlanta Braves. Now, 621 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: the Braves aren't really talked about much in all this 622 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 2: hypothetical Otani sweepstakes. It is theoretical because they've already got 623 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 2: a stacked roster. But what the hell? This is Major 624 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 2: League sports circa twenty twenty three. You hear about super 625 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 2: teams all the time. You pare Otani with some of 626 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 2: the game's most talented players that Atlanta has right now, 627 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 2: and they're already what sixty two and twenty nine. I'm 628 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 2: not gonna talk dynasty because you know they got to 629 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 2: win two or three to do that. But you've been 630 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 2: at a world class talent like shohe Atani joining the Braves. 631 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 2: That'd be one of the best baseball moves of the decade, 632 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 2: and it would make Atlanta an easy pick to most 633 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 2: likely win the World Series his fall. It's fanciful, it's 634 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 2: fun to talk about, and it's Steve mentioned a second ago. 635 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 2: You've got the DH in the National League, so it's 636 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 2: not all the Rema possibility. Finally, the fifteen and again, 637 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 2: this is a little on the borderline crazy, but can 638 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 2: you imagine if Otani ended up with the Cincinnati Reds 639 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 2: on the same rosters Ellie da la Cruz, the future 640 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 2: in Cincinnati would be the brightest it's ever look since 641 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 2: the Big Red Machine. They'd sell out every night, which 642 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 2: you're kind of doing. Now. You've got Otani Da Cruz. 643 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 2: By the way, you got Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase 644 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 2: in the same city. You've got some big names in 645 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 2: the Queen City that all of a sudden becomes an 646 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 2: electric sports city. Look, the Reds, they're one game back 647 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 2: behind the Brewers, They're an outside contender, They're quirky, They're 648 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 2: becoming a team to reckon with. If somehow, you know, 649 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 2: the Angels could pull out or the Reds could pull 650 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 2: off a trade in gett Otani this year, the future 651 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 2: is now. The Reds caught lightning at the bottle this year, 652 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 2: that would be something to see. Be that as it may. 653 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 2: I'm sticking to my guns. I just don't think the 654 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 2: Amess are gonna trade Otani and we're gonna see, We're 655 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 2: gonna see August first. I believe it's two weeks from Tuesday, 656 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 2: something along those lines. Yeah, two weeks from Tuesday. So 657 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 2: it'll come fast and furious, and uh, you know, it's 658 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 2: all speculation right now. But I do you really want 659 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 2: to be the geam who traded Otani and people? You 660 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 2: know I talked about Harry Frazy who sold Babe Ruth 661 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 2: to the Yankees for one hundred thousand dollars back in 662 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 2: nineteen eighteen so we can finance the play. No no, no, 663 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 2: Neete never lived it down. Never And the Curse of 664 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 2: the Bambino was born, by the way, for scoring a 665 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 2: home hope you are that was Babe Ruth sixth year 666 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 2: in the major leagues. This is Otani's sixth year in 667 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 2: the Major leagues. That was the first year Ruth got 668 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 2: the hit and play every day hit twenty nine home runs, 669 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 2: drove in one hundred and twenty bad at about three 670 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 2: fifty you may say, well, those aren't great numbers. Oh yeah, 671 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 2: that's when we're hitting like twelve home runs a year. 672 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 2: And at that point Ruth had already won ninety four 673 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 2: games on the mound. And they made of an everyday 674 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 2: player similarities. Huh, well, coincidence, I think not. We shall 675 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,879 Speaker 2: see what we shall see. Stranger things have happened coming up. 676 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 2: The NFL's around the corner. Some folks they're looking at 677 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 2: their team schedules, one particular city they might want to 678 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 2: travel to to see their hometown team. Have a little 679 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 2: road trip, little nach, little party, you get my drift. Well, 680 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 2: guess which stadium, by far, is the most expensive ticket 681 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 2: in the National Football League. I'll share that with you. 682 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 2: Coming up, I'm Bernie Fraddlewhor coming to your life from 683 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio tire rot dot Com studios. 684 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,240 Speaker 2: Keep it locked right here. You're listening to the Bernie 685 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 2: Frattle Show on Fox. 686 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: Sports Radio Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk 687 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at 688 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 1: foxsports Radio dot Com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search 689 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: FSR to listen. 690 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 2: Live all right back on the Bernie Frattle Show. Fox 691 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 2: Sports Radio come to you live from the Tyrek dot 692 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 2: Com studios here in Las Vegas, ten minutes away from 693 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 2: Medina Magic at midnight. Lots to chop up. I'm just 694 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 2: gonna tell you right now, a very reputable organization, the 695 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 2: Oakview Group, who has a lot of success. They're very 696 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:28,760 Speaker 2: successful arena builder and developer. They've acquired property on Blue 697 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 2: Diamond and Las Vegas Boulevard, which is a a few 698 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 2: miles south of say, the Tropicanada, not far. They plan 699 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 2: to build a ten billion dollar casino resort on that area, 700 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 2: two thousand room hotel, twenty thousand seat NBA ready arena, 701 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 2: and if all goes according to plan, they'll wrap up 702 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 2: their entitlement and then permitting paperwork with Clark County and 703 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 2: they'll break ground in twenty twenty four. These guys have 704 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 2: done this now, it's my understanding the CBA has ratified 705 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 2: the NBA once the new television contract is negotiated in 706 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. It's my belief people I trust. We 707 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 2: believe that the NBA will expand in Seattle and Las 708 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 2: Vegas will beginning teams. Now, this Oakview group built the 709 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,760 Speaker 2: Climate Pledge Arena in Seattle, and they plan to build 710 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 2: in here in Las Vegas without the commitment of a 711 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 2: professional sports tenant. But I think they've got a pretty 712 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 2: impressive track record, and I don't think they would do 713 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,760 Speaker 2: it unless they knew that there was a high probability 714 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 2: that this was going to happen. Much more seamless, much 715 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 2: more fluid, much more linear than the process you heard 716 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 2: about with the Oakland A. So I would take this 717 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 2: very serious. We'll chop this up with Mark Mendina in 718 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 2: a few minutes here, but I trust the people I've 719 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,879 Speaker 2: talked to, and I don't think you get this far. 720 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 2: I think where there's smoke, there's definitely definitely fire. So 721 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 2: keep an eye on those names, the Oakview Group here, 722 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,439 Speaker 2: Blue Diamond, Las Vegas ten billion dollar project. All right, 723 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 2: if you're a fan of the Las Vegas Raiders, you 724 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 2: may have one distinction that you may may not be 725 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 2: proud of. They are the most expensive NFL team to 726 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 2: support in person. The Raiders have always been expensive here 727 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 2: in Vegas, but the cost of attending a game in 728 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 2: the past ten years for the Raiders, who as i 729 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 2: arguably the greatest fan base in all sports on the 730 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:30,240 Speaker 2: Raider Nation, it's jumped ninety three percent, or an average 731 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 2: of an additional three hundred and fifty seven dollars per 732 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 2: seat per ticket to now an average of seven hundred 733 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 2: and thirty eight dollars and thirty six cents per game 734 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:45,720 Speaker 2: according to US Batting Report. Now that's about thirty seven 735 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 2: percent above any other team in the National Football League. Now, 736 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 2: a Legia Stadium was built here the Raiders relocated in 737 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two billion dollars stadium. It's been a massively 738 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 2: huge success. Raiders games at Allegiance Stadium have been ranked 739 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 2: among the best in customer satisfaction number one in twenty 740 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 2: twenty two. So clearly the experience, the fan experience is everything. 741 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 2: Now seven hundred and thirty nine bucks. What does that mean? 742 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 2: And if you take a family of four to the game, 743 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:22,760 Speaker 2: that's times four. But you've got you know, that includes 744 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 2: the tickets, you know, two small draft beers, apiece, four 745 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 2: small soft drinks, hot dogs, parking, programs and maybe a 746 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 2: souvenir so family of four. It's going to cost you about, 747 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 2: you know, three grand, but people do it. There's only 748 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 2: eight home games a year, and by the way, costs 749 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 2: a lot to attend a Golden State Warriors game as well. 750 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 2: Even the Cleveland Browns, even the Philadelphia Eagles, even the 751 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs. They're all up there in the stratosphere. 752 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 2: But Las Vegas might not be winning, but they're winning 753 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,280 Speaker 2: at the bank. Most expensive ticket in the entire NFL. 754 00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 2: Coming up, Mark Medina, Medina Magic. Keep it locked to 755 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. Well you heard 756 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,879 Speaker 2: the man in the Bernie Frattle Show. Keeps for rolling 757 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 2: right along. My name is Bernie Fraddle, coming to live 758 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 2: for the tarac dot com studios Fox Sports Radio here 759 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 2: in Las Vegas, Nevada. Tyrat dot com. We'll help you 760 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 2: get there an unmatched selection, fast, free shipping, free road 761 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 2: hazard protection, and over ten thousand recommended installers. Tirerac dot 762 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 2: com the way tire buying should be. It may be 763 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifteen degrees today, it may be the 764 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 2: middle of summer, but I promise you the news cycle 765 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 2: and the NBA never ends and it's as hot as 766 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 2: it's ever been. And that's exactly why every Saturday night 767 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 2: it's that time Badina Magic, It's midnight Saturday Night, and 768 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 2: it never fails to disappoint Mark. There are more topics 769 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 2: than ever, even though the season is months away and 770 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 2: we start with the potential for expansion. So let me 771 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 2: just make this statement. I am very aware of the 772 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 2: Oakview group, their past successes in building arenas, the plot 773 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 2: of land they have purchased over on Blue Diamond in 774 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 2: Las Vegas Boulevard, and even though that they'll have an 775 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 2: NBA ready arena, there's no NBA team yet, but I think, 776 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 2: honestly in my heart, it's a formality until after the 777 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 2: TV deal is finalized in twenty twenty five. What say you? 778 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, you outlined it really well. I did a 779 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 5: piece for the Sporting Tribute on how Las Vegas has 780 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 5: just been this hub for NBA events, you know, Summer League, 781 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 5: NBA con g League Showcase, they got the WNBA All 782 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 5: Star Game today and the sense that I got with expansion, 783 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 5: you hit it on the money. Adam Silver made it 784 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 5: clear they're looking at the media right still. That expires 785 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 5: after twenty four to twenty five. But the more I 786 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 5: looked into it, I think that there's a feeling that 787 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 5: it's not going to be, you know, within the next 788 00:41:56,040 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 5: five years. It'll be after that there will be an 789 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 5: NBA team in Vegas. Don't get me wrong, but I 790 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 5: think I have to iron out some things where if 791 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 5: they are going to expand, Seattle's going to be the 792 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 5: other likely team, And then what is it about when 793 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 5: is the timing right? Because as much as the NBA 794 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 5: could benefit from having two more teams, owners are worried 795 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 5: about revenue sharing, and if you're dividing all that in 796 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 5: a pie, all of a sudden you have to include 797 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,839 Speaker 5: two parties, and you know owners care about their money 798 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 5: in the bottom line, so don't have to sort those 799 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 5: things out. Playcate concerns with that as well as the 800 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,879 Speaker 5: fact that you know, the Lakers have a pretty good 801 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 5: fan base in Las Vegas. Does that eat into that? 802 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 5: And then the other thing is what you're mentioning what 803 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 5: the arena will be. There's kind of an unknown. It 804 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 5: will be an existing stadium or an existing arena, a 805 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,880 Speaker 5: new arena, more likely a new arena. But then it 806 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 5: comes down to the fact that, Okay, how would this 807 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 5: be paid for? Public finance saying or you or you know, 808 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,880 Speaker 5: privately funded. So there's clearly a lot of steps that 809 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 5: have to happen. But once it's all clears, it's gonna happen. 810 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,799 Speaker 5: But it's not gonna happen soon. 811 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 2: No, I certainly agree with that. Even if there's an announcement, 812 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 2: we're probably probably looking at thirty two to thirty six 813 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 2: months before they actually tip off here. So I'm certainly 814 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 2: an agreement. Another major announcement. I kind of loved these 815 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 2: two together because it took place at NBA Con. I 816 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,320 Speaker 2: credentially NBA Con was there two of the three days, 817 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 2: and there might be some folks covetching about the n 818 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 2: Season Tournament, but I will tell you when they unveiled 819 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 2: the details and made the announcement of the NCAA tournament 820 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,839 Speaker 2: here at NBA Con, it was packed. So what are 821 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 2: your thoughts now that the dust is settled? What's been 822 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 2: the scuttle but about the n Season tournament? How well 823 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 2: received you believe it will be? Are people keeping an 824 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:54,959 Speaker 2: open mind? 825 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, I could I can vouch for 826 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 5: what you just said. I was at NBA Con one. 827 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 5: They unveiled the details about it with the live showing 828 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,839 Speaker 5: MBA today and there were about four thousand fans there 829 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 5: and each time they're talking about the teams, they're either 830 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 5: doing loudly or cheering loudly, depending on their allegiances. But 831 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 5: I think beyond that there is a mixed feeling. I 832 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 5: think there is a wait and see approach to see 833 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 5: how the players and the teams react to it. And 834 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 5: you know, are there are enough incentives? You know, clearly 835 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 5: it seems like with the financial incentives and the fact 836 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 5: that you can win a championship trophy. I want to 837 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,879 Speaker 5: be surprised that the younger up and coming teams care 838 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 5: more about this than maybe the teams like the Lakers 839 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 5: and the Golden State Warriors, Denver Nuggets were. You know, 840 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 5: they've already tasted championship success and that's the main thing. 841 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 5: But I think that to the NBA's credit, this was 842 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 5: in the making well before load managements in the past 843 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 5: fifteen years. They consulted a lot of teams and players 844 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 5: for feedback just so they would address some concerns. And 845 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 5: I think the other thing is my initial thought was 846 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 5: why have it so early in the season, and their 847 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 5: reason was they didn't want to have it later in 848 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 5: the season because it would eat into all the attention 849 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 5: with All Star weekend and kind of the promotional tie 850 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 5: and lead into that with guys trying to make the team, 851 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 5: And so even though they might run up against NFL 852 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 5: and college football early in the season, they felt like, hey, 853 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 5: this the least gets us in the conversation. So no 854 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 5: doubt the players and the teams are going to ultimately 855 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 5: show whether this is a good or idea or not, 856 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 5: depending on how much they try. But I do think 857 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 5: that while I'm skeptical that it's not going to address 858 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 5: you know, the fundamental core of casual fans don't pay 859 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,799 Speaker 5: as much attention to the NBA regular season, and there 860 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 5: is that load management, it'll at least mitigate it, and 861 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 5: that's all you can really ask for. So I think 862 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,439 Speaker 5: with that it will work. But you know, I think 863 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 5: ultimately the proof's going to be in the put in 864 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,240 Speaker 5: with how the team's pull. 865 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 2: What do you suppose the ideological purpose behind creating this 866 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 2: tournament in the first place is? And I know Adam 867 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 2: Silver has certainly studied the soccer model, and he has 868 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 2: for over a decade, And actually I understand why it 869 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,720 Speaker 2: would be in December because sort of the de facto NBA, 870 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 2: you know, Opening Night is really sort of Christmas. Right 871 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 2: after that, that's when you start to pay more attention 872 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,360 Speaker 2: to the NBA. I think it's buried in December. Is 873 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 2: it possible they just want to bring more eyeballs or 874 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 2: is there another agenda? 875 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 5: Well, look, usually when you're talking about professional sports, the 876 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 5: main driving force isn't any kind of ideal ology. It's 877 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 5: the green. It's the dollar signs, right, and so you know, 878 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,920 Speaker 5: it enhances the value of the TV contracts, especially the 879 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,399 Speaker 5: fact that it's going to expire in two years. That's 880 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 5: another thing I could drive up the price. You know, 881 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 5: it's another source of gate revenue. They're going to have 882 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 5: the semi final one championship game in your backyard in 883 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,840 Speaker 5: Las Vegas, so they know that that is a pretty 884 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 5: significant market. But I do think that this was the 885 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 5: NBA's way of trying to address some of the things 886 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 5: that have gone on with not just load management, but 887 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 5: just some team and fan detachment from regular season games 888 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 5: or at least non playoff games. And so I think 889 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 5: when I'm looking at this, it's going to address it 890 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 5: because you're going to have teams that are going to 891 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 5: be competing. But honestly, Bernie, it might also create new 892 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 5: problems where the teams that don't care that much about 893 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,319 Speaker 5: the plans tournament or the in season tournament, they kind 894 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 5: of conserve their energy, so to speak, and the ones 895 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,320 Speaker 5: that do go all out in the n season tournament 896 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,320 Speaker 5: maybe lean up to it or after they start resting 897 00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:01,400 Speaker 5: their guys. But I think that the bottom line is 898 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:06,239 Speaker 5: there's competition, there's cash incentives. I think for teams that 899 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 5: you are on the up and up, it's a way 900 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 5: for front offices to have some more job security. Same 901 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 5: thing with coaches for young players that take success. So look, 902 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,760 Speaker 5: there was a lot of skepticism about the playing tournament 903 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 5: after the bubble. They liked it in the bubble, but 904 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,719 Speaker 5: then afterwards they said, hey, go back to traditional one 905 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 5: through eight seed. But since then a lot of teams 906 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 5: have liked it because it's reduced tanking, it's competitive, and 907 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,800 Speaker 5: it gives us outside teams looking in still a shot 908 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 5: to make the playoffs. So I think ultimately that's what's 909 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:40,760 Speaker 5: going to happen. 910 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,560 Speaker 2: So let's talk a little bit more about NBA CON. 911 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 2: I was there it's almost indescribable. I would characterize it 912 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 2: as Madam Tusades for the NBA because there are players past, 913 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 2: present and future. Of course, unreal, the exhibits, the fans, 914 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,239 Speaker 2: the energy very similar to Baseball fan fast and the 915 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 2: latest in technology. Are they bringing NBA Con back to 916 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,880 Speaker 2: Las Vegas in twenty twenty four and give the folks 917 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 2: your your general takeaway from the event NBA Con itself. 918 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, it was a three day event at the 919 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 5: Mandali Bay Convention Center. I mean think Comic Con, you know, 920 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 5: That's that's what it was kind of named after with 921 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 5: NBA consoles right right, a perfect combination of like you know, 922 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,840 Speaker 5: panel players with past Paul famers and current players. You know, 923 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 5: I think the most notable kream Abdul Jabbar with Victor 924 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 5: one Banama. It was a lot of fan fest kind 925 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 5: of activities where you know, you can play popa shot, 926 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 5: play NBA JAM, play nbah K. You know, they had 927 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 5: a radio row, you know with different radio shows I 928 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,440 Speaker 5: think under our umbrella at Fox Sports, so that we're 929 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 5: able to do some stuff and so yeah, it was 930 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 5: a really cool atmosphere. And to your question about are 931 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,719 Speaker 5: they bringing it back next season? Look, I asked the 932 00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 5: NBA directly, and they you know, they didn't confirm from 933 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,839 Speaker 5: one hundred percent, but they said, certainly the plan that 934 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 5: that this is going to be part of a staple 935 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 5: for NBA Summer League in Vegas. But I would also 936 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 5: add that they also see in the cards that this 937 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 5: could be an event for other domestic and international things 938 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,719 Speaker 5: that the NBA is going on, whether it's like preseason 939 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 5: games overseas, maybe things you know, leading into the NBA Draft, 940 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:31,040 Speaker 5: the draft combine the draft lottery. So I think that's 941 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,720 Speaker 5: NBA con it's not going to be exclusive to Las Vegas, 942 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,400 Speaker 5: but if I had to guess, it's safe to pencil 943 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,759 Speaker 5: when that every Vegas Summer League they're they're going to 944 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:41,800 Speaker 5: have that event there. 945 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:46,920 Speaker 2: Good to know. Finally, mark the name Damian Lillard and 946 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,320 Speaker 2: to a degree, James Harden has gone somewhat radio silent 947 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,360 Speaker 2: any any movement on those two in terms of we 948 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,279 Speaker 2: know one wants to go to Miami, the other wants 949 00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,200 Speaker 2: to go to the Clippers. But as you aptly pointed 950 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 2: out last year, at this time, you'll be surprised if 951 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,719 Speaker 2: Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving start the team, start the 952 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,200 Speaker 2: season with their original teams. I'm not predicting that here, 953 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 2: but what are your thoughts on any movement involving those two. 954 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 5: Well, look, when you say it's radiosile, part of me 955 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,319 Speaker 5: always thinks when that happens, these teams got to be 956 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,719 Speaker 5: up to something, because the best deals happen in secrecy. 957 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 5: But I don't think that's the case here. I think 958 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 5: it's a case of Summer League's almost over. Teams are 959 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 5: ready to go on vacation forget about things now. GMS 960 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,239 Speaker 5: they work around the clock, so it's not like they're 961 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 5: going to take it easy. But I think that both 962 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:40,040 Speaker 5: the Philadelphia seventy six ers and the Portland Trailblazers are 963 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:44,759 Speaker 5: preparing themselves to at least have their star players be 964 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:49,359 Speaker 5: with them opening training camp, just to try to maximize 965 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 5: leverage see if there's more deals that can be made. 966 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,920 Speaker 5: And also I think there is a comfort level to 967 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,040 Speaker 5: wait until the trade deadline. Now I don't think it's 968 00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 5: going to wait until that point. I think that ultimately 969 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,880 Speaker 5: they will get dealt like shortly before the season starts. 970 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:10,560 Speaker 5: But you never know here because they clearly have made 971 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:15,400 Speaker 5: it made it very clear publicly and privately, they're not. 972 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,400 Speaker 5: They're not just going to accept any deal. And the 973 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 5: Sixers their championship contention mode because of Joel Embiid. Whether 974 00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,600 Speaker 5: he grew with it or not, that's up for debate. 975 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 5: But the Sixers internally think they have a shot because 976 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,840 Speaker 5: they have Joe Embiid and you know, the Portland Trailblazers, 977 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,839 Speaker 5: they don't. They're not under illusional championship aspirations. So they 978 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 5: think that they can be that dangerous playoff team as 979 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,319 Speaker 5: they always have been because they have they have a 980 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 5: good young core with Scooter Henderson, Shade and Sharp and 981 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 5: Forny Simon's so they're not going to accept just any 982 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 5: deal just for the sake of it. So yeah, but Bernie, 983 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:54,520 Speaker 5: I say all that with the full acknowledgement that honestly 984 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,400 Speaker 5: a deal could happen tomorrow. I mean, it's just that unpredictable. 985 00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,400 Speaker 2: Mark, great stuff is always It's how as the days 986 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,879 Speaker 2: go by and we find ourselves on Saturday night, there's 987 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 2: always plenty of topics to get to, even though we 988 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 2: are in the dead of summer and the NBA season 989 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:11,319 Speaker 2: is three months away. 990 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 5: Great stuff, Mark, I appreciate you, and you know what, 991 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,600 Speaker 5: that's why we have it every Saturday roight. We know 992 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 5: there's a lot of NBA things to dive. 993 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 2: Into, absolutely good stuff. Buddy Mark Meda Mark Madeena, our 994 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:26,320 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio guru all things the NBA Medina Magic 995 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 2: every Saturday night midnight on the Bernie Frattle Show. As 996 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,880 Speaker 2: you can see, he's very well connected and his finger 997 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,480 Speaker 2: on the pulse. One of the things we didn't get to. 998 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 2: The NBA Board of Governors approved two new rule changes, 999 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,640 Speaker 2: which I will share with you coming up. One I 1000 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,440 Speaker 2: think you'd be very pleased with, because no one likes 1001 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,240 Speaker 2: a flopper. I'm Bernie Fraddle. We're comedy live from Las Vegas, 1002 00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,080 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, tirect dot Com studios. Keep it locked. 1003 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. 1004 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,520 Speaker 2: All right back on the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports 1005 00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 2: Radio Comedy Live from the Tyre Studios here in Las Vegas, 1006 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,400 Speaker 2: take up to three am Pacific, six am Eastern. A 1007 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,440 Speaker 2: ton of stuff to get to. Sticking with the NBA, 1008 00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:12,880 Speaker 2: the NBA Board of Governors on Thursday approved an in 1009 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,960 Speaker 2: game flopping penalty. And here's how it goes. Under the 1010 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 2: new rule, when an official and a game official cause 1011 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:25,880 Speaker 2: a flop or any physical act that reasonably appears, you know, 1012 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 2: to be intended to cause the officials. This is all 1013 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,440 Speaker 2: a contrivance. This is all part of the Academy Awards 1014 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,000 Speaker 2: stuff that Lebron claims he doesn't do, but he did 1015 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,239 Speaker 2: a ton of it. I saw a montage of twenty 1016 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 2: eleven the NBA Finals. He was it was hilarious, the 1017 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:48,160 Speaker 2: Lebron flopper. But any act that would intentionally attempt to 1018 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 2: cause the officials to call a fall another player, well, 1019 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 2: if you are that offending player, you are now going 1020 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,520 Speaker 2: to be charged with a non unsportsman like technical file 1021 00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,440 Speaker 2: and the opposing team will be awarded a free throw attempt. 1022 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:05,080 Speaker 2: And by the way, the attempt can be you know, 1023 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,279 Speaker 2: made by any player who's in the game when the 1024 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 2: technical file is assessed. Now, they're not going to eject 1025 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,600 Speaker 2: players from the game based on technical file you know, 1026 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 2: flopping violations. But here's what's interesting about this rule. So 1027 00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,680 Speaker 2: let's say, uh, you know, you're you're posting up on 1028 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,360 Speaker 2: Lebron and you back up and you you make zero contact, 1029 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,040 Speaker 2: but he flops, uh, and the player is going to 1030 00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:34,480 Speaker 2: continue and the play will continue until there's a whistle 1031 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 2: or there's a scoring opportunity, or there's the ball goes 1032 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,480 Speaker 2: out of bounds, or there's there's some sort of neutral 1033 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,680 Speaker 2: opportunity to stop play, stop the live play, and then 1034 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:48,000 Speaker 2: the referee will assess the flopping call fiul. It's not 1035 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 2: going to be like you know, immediately when it happens, 1036 00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,840 Speaker 2: like if there's a foul a regular file, So the 1037 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,640 Speaker 2: referee has that at their discretion, and then after the 1038 00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:01,840 Speaker 2: penalty free throw, well, they will resume play and the 1039 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,759 Speaker 2: team that you know had possession when the foul of 1040 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:12,600 Speaker 2: the flop was called, they'll keep possession. So I like this, Okay. 1041 00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,560 Speaker 2: Flopping violations, by the way, they're not going to be 1042 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:21,960 Speaker 2: reviewable by coaches challenge. However, the you know, the referees 1043 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,160 Speaker 2: can review a flopping call if it's if there's a 1044 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,359 Speaker 2: foul as part of the flopping call and there's a 1045 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:32,720 Speaker 2: foul and there's a coach's challenge, and then the referee 1046 00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:36,040 Speaker 2: can initiate a replay review, depending on if there's some 1047 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 2: discretion there. Now, the longest short of it is the 1048 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,280 Speaker 2: league is sick of flopping. We're all sick of flopping, 1049 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,920 Speaker 2: and so you call a flop, the other team is 1050 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 2: awarded a free throw. That's basically the long and short 1051 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 2: of it. And they're not going to stop play when 1052 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,920 Speaker 2: the flop is called. It's going to be a situation 1053 00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,080 Speaker 2: where there's a penalty system in play now for flops, 1054 00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,759 Speaker 2: and they'll modify that. And it's being tried to in 1055 00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,560 Speaker 2: the NBA Summer League right now. I'm not really sure 1056 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,839 Speaker 2: how it's going, right, but when a flop's called by 1057 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,720 Speaker 2: the referees, it's going to be, you know, sort of 1058 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:10,240 Speaker 2: the opposing team ordered one free throw. End of story. 1059 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:16,320 Speaker 2: This is a one year trial basis, okay, and I 1060 00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 2: if it works and if the if the mechanics of 1061 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 2: this work and it doesn't disrupt play and the referees 1062 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,200 Speaker 2: are accurate, and a lot of times in high speed 1063 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,480 Speaker 2: something looks like there's real physical contact and there's a 1064 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:33,200 Speaker 2: flop and then you you you replay it in slow 1065 00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,960 Speaker 2: motion and there's no contact at all or virtually no contact. 1066 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,360 Speaker 2: Especially when you have a situation I think referees are 1067 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,600 Speaker 2: going to be taught to discern this where you know 1068 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:46,600 Speaker 2: someone has made contact with another player, but the you know, 1069 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,800 Speaker 2: the the angle that the flopping player takes is not 1070 00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,920 Speaker 2: really congruent from where he was hit, and and so 1071 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 2: it becomes, you know, an obvious attempt to trick the 1072 00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,560 Speaker 2: referee into calling a foul on the opposing play. Hopefully 1073 00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,320 Speaker 2: followed all that, it's not brain surgery, but you know 1074 00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,760 Speaker 2: what a flop looks like most of the time, and 1075 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,240 Speaker 2: it's got no place in the game anymore. Well, we're 1076 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:12,960 Speaker 2: tired of it. Another rule that the Board of Governors 1077 00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:18,000 Speaker 2: approved this past week was they decided to expand the 1078 00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,640 Speaker 2: use of a coach's challenge in the NBA. So the 1079 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:26,880 Speaker 2: coach's challenge basically, the idea now is a team can 1080 00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:31,040 Speaker 2: be awarded a second challenge if their first challenge is 1081 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:34,720 Speaker 2: actually successful. So, you know, a team they use a 1082 00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,720 Speaker 2: timeout to trigger a challenge, which means the team is 1083 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,240 Speaker 2: not able to use their first or second challenge unless 1084 00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,440 Speaker 2: it has a timeout available. But in addition, the team 1085 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,640 Speaker 2: will retain the timeout if it had one that used 1086 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 2: to initiate the first challenge if the challenge is successful, 1087 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,600 Speaker 2: and it won't trigger a mandatory timeout. By the way, 1088 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,880 Speaker 2: and the idea is they're trying to keep the game 1089 00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,160 Speaker 2: and the flow going. There's already enough stoppages in basketball, 1090 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,440 Speaker 2: especially last couple innings, but if you are wrong on 1091 00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,440 Speaker 2: the challenge, you don't retain the timeout, you don't get 1092 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,880 Speaker 2: the second challenge. You have to have a successful challenge. 1093 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,960 Speaker 2: But what this is designed to do is if there 1094 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:15,600 Speaker 2: are legitimate usages of challenges and coaches are adept at 1095 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:17,960 Speaker 2: making sure the call is right and they see something 1096 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:19,880 Speaker 2: different and they turn out to be right, they're going 1097 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,400 Speaker 2: to be rewarded for that. So the NBA has put 1098 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:27,240 Speaker 2: a lot of thought into this. Their Competition Committee spans, 1099 00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:31,640 Speaker 2: you know, quite an amalgam of people, players, reps from 1100 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:38,640 Speaker 2: the Players Association, various coaches, governors, basketball executives, even referees. 1101 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 2: And what's interesting on both the flop the new flop 1102 00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:44,880 Speaker 2: rule call in which the team will be a word 1103 00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 2: of a free throw, and expanding the use of the 1104 00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:50,320 Speaker 2: coach's challenge. When this board of governors voted on this, 1105 00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,800 Speaker 2: they were both unanimous. No one voted no, everybody voted yes. 1106 00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:59,200 Speaker 2: So the endgame flopping penalty one year trial you flop, 1107 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,760 Speaker 2: you give the a team of free throw. And by 1108 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,600 Speaker 2: the way, again, if you see a flop in high 1109 01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,240 Speaker 2: speed action and you're asking yourself, wait a minute, why 1110 01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,120 Speaker 2: didn't the ref blow with so? Why didn't he stop play, 1111 01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,640 Speaker 2: They're not doing it that way. They'll wait till there's 1112 01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,439 Speaker 2: the next natural stop at your play, you know, ball 1113 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:19,440 Speaker 2: goes out of bounds, neutral opportunity, an organic stop at 1114 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,800 Speaker 2: your play, and then at that point the flopping call 1115 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,120 Speaker 2: will be assessed. And in terms of the challenge rule, 1116 01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,120 Speaker 2: a team will get a second challenge if their first 1117 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:33,280 Speaker 2: challenge is successful. The NBA continues to evolve. I like 1118 01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:37,400 Speaker 2: both of these and I think it's designed to, you know, 1119 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:42,200 Speaker 2: basically make the fan experience better. Coming up, we flipped 1120 01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 2: the football starting tonight and over the next eight weeks. 1121 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 2: Tonight being weak one, we're going to preview one of 1122 01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:55,880 Speaker 2: the divisions of all eight National Football League NFC AFC, 1123 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,960 Speaker 2: AFC West or check that West, North, South, and East. 1124 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,160 Speaker 2: And tonight we're gonna start with the AFC West odds, 1125 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 2: the team totals and previews for the upcoming season, which 1126 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:09,960 Speaker 2: is not that far away. By the way, your New 1127 01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:14,080 Speaker 2: York Jets are in camp this week, and yes, the 1128 01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,320 Speaker 2: cameras will be ruling for hard knocks. So we preview 1129 01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:19,880 Speaker 2: the AFC West coming up next, But first let's go 1130 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:21,440 Speaker 2: back to our guy, Steve De Sager with. 1131 01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,760 Speaker 8: The Lakes As soon as she said the phrase your 1132 01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,360 Speaker 8: New York Jets, I know there were listeners that said, 1133 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:30,000 Speaker 8: do not offend me, they are not mine. Even Jets 1134 01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:31,800 Speaker 8: fans are not claiming the Jets for most. 1135 01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:35,320 Speaker 2: That's what I get to Dave for using trite phraseyology. 1136 01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,680 Speaker 2: Although I won't mention any names Jason Smith exactly, we 1137 01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:40,880 Speaker 2: all know, yes, yes, take it away, my friend. 1138 01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:44,120 Speaker 8: Well, most NFL veterans do report to training camp about 1139 01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,520 Speaker 8: a week and a half away. July twenty fifth, that's Vets. 1140 01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:50,000 Speaker 8: WNBA All Star Game was in Vegas tonight. Brianna Stewart's 1141 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,080 Speaker 8: team one game, MVP Jewel Lloyd had thirty one points. 1142 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:56,480 Speaker 8: Vegas is NBA Summer League ends with the final Monday. 1143 01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,080 Speaker 8: Most team's last game is tomorrow Lebron James and the 1144 01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,960 Speaker 8: Lakers is switch back to Jersey. Number twenty three Mexico 1145 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,720 Speaker 8: plays in Sunday nights Gold Cup soccer final in La 1146 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,040 Speaker 8: against Panama on Fox TV. US women's soccer starts the 1147 01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:12,520 Speaker 8: World Cup this Friday night on Fox. The Wimbledon Men's 1148 01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,360 Speaker 8: final comes up at nine am Eastern time. Number two 1149 01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,880 Speaker 8: seed Novak Djokovic going for another crown there against the 1150 01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:22,600 Speaker 8: young one seed, Carlos Alcarez, the women's champion, MARQUETTEV and 1151 01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,720 Speaker 8: Drusiva the first unseeded woman to take the title there. 1152 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,760 Speaker 8: She won sixty four to sixty four over on Jubour. 1153 01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:32,400 Speaker 8: Saturday morning, Rory McElroy will be teeing off short lead 1154 01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,200 Speaker 8: open his final round of the Scottish Open. McElroy up 1155 01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:38,600 Speaker 8: by one stroke. Steph Curry leads the celebrity golf events 1156 01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,440 Speaker 8: in Lake Tahoe. He had a hole in one on Saturday. 1157 01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:42,360 Speaker 7: The late game in. 1158 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,200 Speaker 8: Major League Baseball saw the Angels come back to win 1159 01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,560 Speaker 8: in ten innings over Houston thirteen to twelve. That ended 1160 01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,600 Speaker 8: a Halo six game losing streak and as part of 1161 01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:53,960 Speaker 8: a three run bottom of the ninth, Shoheyo Tani hit 1162 01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,920 Speaker 8: his thirty third home run. Road wins for Detroit and 1163 01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:01,040 Speaker 8: the Yankees road wins for first plays teams Minisoa and Milwaukee. 1164 01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,560 Speaker 8: The Twins led at Oakland six nothing in the third. 1165 01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,640 Speaker 8: It was tied seven to seven going to the seventh, 1166 01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,680 Speaker 8: ten to seven twins. The final Minnesota first in the 1167 01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:13,320 Speaker 8: AL Central game and a half over Cleveland. Milwaukee shut 1168 01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,160 Speaker 8: out the Reds again three nothing, holding the Reds offense 1169 01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,479 Speaker 8: to one hit Milwaukee alone in first. In the NL 1170 01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:23,240 Speaker 8: Central game over Cincinnati, Brewers hit three solo homers in 1171 01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,800 Speaker 8: the three nothing victory. The White Sox held on for 1172 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,160 Speaker 8: a six to five win at Atlanta, beating All Star 1173 01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,720 Speaker 8: pitcher Spencer Streyder. Ronald Lecunya did hit two home runs 1174 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,440 Speaker 8: in defeat. Baltimore won at seventh in a row, six 1175 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,520 Speaker 8: to five over Miami, although the Marlins Luisa Rias had 1176 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:41,040 Speaker 8: four more hits. He's batting three eighty six. The Giants 1177 01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,640 Speaker 8: won three to one at Pittsburgh, and San Francisco's won 1178 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:47,000 Speaker 8: four straight games, but in this one, the Giants offense 1179 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:52,000 Speaker 8: Saturday three to thirty fifteen strikeouts, and they won. San 1180 01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,439 Speaker 8: Francisco scored two runs in the eighth, one on an air. 1181 01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,040 Speaker 8: The Dodgers held the Mets to just three hits, held 1182 01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,479 Speaker 8: him just won it the night before, beat him again 1183 01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,560 Speaker 8: five one six straight wins for La. Mookie Betts went 1184 01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,600 Speaker 8: four for four, including his twenty seventh homer, and the 1185 01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,760 Speaker 8: Dodgers two games up on the Diamondbacks in the NL West. 1186 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:12,400 Speaker 8: Now Toronto beat Arizona and pitcher Zach Gallon, an All 1187 01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:16,240 Speaker 8: Star five two Blue Jays Texas to nothing over Cleveland 1188 01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,880 Speaker 8: Eraaldus Chapman got to save for the Rangers, who led 1189 01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,880 Speaker 8: to nothing in the second inning. The Cubs defeated Boston 1190 01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,720 Speaker 8: and James Paxton ten to four. Paxton had been five 1191 01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:28,360 Speaker 8: and one. Washington and Saint Louis split a doubleheader. Tampa 1192 01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:32,040 Speaker 8: Bay swept a doubleheader at Kansas City. Philadelphia and San 1193 01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:35,080 Speaker 8: Diego were in a twin bill. Philly took both games 1194 01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:39,200 Speaker 8: six four and nine four. Kyle Schwarmer homered in each game. 1195 01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,760 Speaker 8: He has twenty four. And you mentioned the name Kurt 1196 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:43,880 Speaker 8: Flood early in the show. I looked it up. He 1197 01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:45,880 Speaker 8: did not take care of himself and passed away at 1198 01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,520 Speaker 8: the age of fifty nine. It was and he'd had 1199 01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,800 Speaker 8: throat cancer his final year. He died at UCLA Medical 1200 01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,840 Speaker 8: Center where apparently he had been a patient four months. 1201 01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:58,480 Speaker 8: So he's buried in Los Angeles. Apparently, Kurt Flood, the 1202 01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:01,600 Speaker 8: former star center fielder the Cardinals, won a Gold Glove 1203 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,200 Speaker 8: his last seven years in a row as a Cardinal. 1204 01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:08,880 Speaker 8: He's buried at Inglewood Park Cemetery. Where is that well, 1205 01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:12,040 Speaker 8: You actually see it in pretty much any Chargers or 1206 01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,800 Speaker 8: Rams home game. They televised because you've got sofi stadium, 1207 01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,760 Speaker 8: there will fock where Fox will have Mexico's game tomorrow night, 1208 01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:22,480 Speaker 8: for example, the Gold Cup soccer final. Just about the 1209 01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:25,440 Speaker 8: North parking lot is the Forum where Magic Johnson and 1210 01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:27,880 Speaker 8: the Lakers played for so many years, and right across 1211 01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,920 Speaker 8: the street a very large patch of grass. It's actually 1212 01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:34,760 Speaker 8: the block of Inglewood Park Cemetery. Kurt Flood is buried 1213 01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,040 Speaker 8: across the street from the Forum, and so fine, back 1214 01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:38,320 Speaker 8: to you. 1215 01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:43,040 Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Steve, outstanding segue at the top of 1216 01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:46,440 Speaker 2: the hour. I'm going to give a tribute to Kurt Flood. Obviously, 1217 01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:51,360 Speaker 2: the popularity the Error movie in April, telling the story 1218 01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:55,800 Speaker 2: of Sonny Vaccero was met with a great you know, 1219 01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:00,320 Speaker 2: enjoyment of fans who really didn't know the story, know 1220 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,600 Speaker 2: Kurd Flood story. Without Kurd Flood, we may never have 1221 01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:08,200 Speaker 2: had free agency. He challenged baseball's reserve clause in nineteen 1222 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,960 Speaker 2: seventy two. He took it to the Supreme Court. He 1223 01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,280 Speaker 2: refused to report to the Philadelphia Phillies. And he had 1224 01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:17,360 Speaker 2: been a very good defensive center fielder, including on two 1225 01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:22,040 Speaker 2: World champion Saint Louis Cardinal teams. I remember Kurt Flood well. 1226 01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,600 Speaker 2: He had a sad life, even moved to Spain for 1227 01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,320 Speaker 2: many years. But I'm going to give his story top 1228 01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,240 Speaker 2: of the hour because we hear about these contracts that 1229 01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:34,520 Speaker 2: Hoheyo Tani might get, and what Aaron Judge got, and 1230 01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:39,120 Speaker 2: what Juan Soto turned down. None of this likely would 1231 01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:42,200 Speaker 2: have ever happened had not Kurt Flood been the true 1232 01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:45,920 Speaker 2: sacrificial lamb. And I've always believed there should be a 1233 01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,160 Speaker 2: wing at the Hall of Fame to honor Kurt Flood. 1234 01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,520 Speaker 2: I will tell that story at the top of the hour. 1235 01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:54,040 Speaker 2: All Right, seven weeks from Thursday, the Kansas City Chiefs 1236 01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:57,520 Speaker 2: begin their defense against I guess my Detroit Lions. I 1237 01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:02,080 Speaker 2: work with me. And look, that's why we're going to 1238 01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:04,600 Speaker 2: begin in the AFC West, because the Chiefs have won 1239 01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:06,520 Speaker 2: seven years in a row. They won the division seven 1240 01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,440 Speaker 2: years in a row, all five of Patrick Mahomes campaigns 1241 01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,760 Speaker 2: as a full time starter. The Chargers, they're supposed to 1242 01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:15,720 Speaker 2: be that team, always a bride's maid, never a bride. 1243 01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,560 Speaker 2: We'll see if they can ruffle some feathers this year, 1244 01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,680 Speaker 2: but according to the odds here in Vegas, don't count 1245 01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:24,000 Speaker 2: on it. The Chiefs are prohibitive favorites minus one fifty 1246 01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:27,120 Speaker 2: to win the West. Again, here's how it goes, by 1247 01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,280 Speaker 2: the way, meaning that to win one hundred dollars, you 1248 01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,080 Speaker 2: have to put up one hundred and fifty to do that. 1249 01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:35,920 Speaker 2: She's fourteen and three last year, second Lombardi Trophy in 1250 01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:39,360 Speaker 2: four seasons. Yeah, they lose Tyreek Hill, and they dealt 1251 01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,920 Speaker 2: with injuries throughout the season. But as long as you 1252 01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:47,520 Speaker 2: got Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelcey, well they're in 1253 01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:51,160 Speaker 2: good hands, all right. Kelsey, we expect him to be 1254 01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:54,720 Speaker 2: a dominant force in the offense. Look, they had the 1255 01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:59,080 Speaker 2: offseason departure of Juju Smith Schuster, and so that opens 1256 01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:03,360 Speaker 2: the door for Mark Kiss, Valdez Scantling, Donovan Smith, Juwan Taylor. 1257 01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:07,919 Speaker 2: They've bolstered the offensive line, and I think Kansas City 1258 01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:11,240 Speaker 2: is poised. This team is unique and the fact that 1259 01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:14,240 Speaker 2: they have star power, but there's a certain humility and 1260 01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,160 Speaker 2: lunch pale attitude that combined the best of both worlds. 1261 01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,759 Speaker 2: And again, as long as you have Reied, Mahomes and Kelsey, 1262 01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:23,200 Speaker 2: believe me, they're going to be on the short list. 1263 01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:26,320 Speaker 2: Chargers plus three twenty five. That's a big drop off, 1264 01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:27,479 Speaker 2: meaning you have to put up on Hunter to win 1265 01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,280 Speaker 2: three twenty five. They've been the hip Hepsters pick to 1266 01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:32,920 Speaker 2: win the FC West for the last few seasons. But 1267 01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:38,360 Speaker 2: look they're coming to Danieu mall in that Brandon Staley 1268 01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,120 Speaker 2: is a guy that I don't trust, I don't particularly 1269 01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:44,840 Speaker 2: care for, and I will tell you he blew a 1270 01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,479 Speaker 2: twenty seven to nothing lead to the Jaguars in the 1271 01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:51,120 Speaker 2: divisional round. There's just something about the guy that doesn't 1272 01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:54,000 Speaker 2: click with me. But justin Herbert, he's a guy held 1273 01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,000 Speaker 2: in high regard. He's one of the best young quarterbacks 1274 01:08:56,040 --> 01:09:00,160 Speaker 2: in the league. He's an early MVP candidate. But the 1275 01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:03,080 Speaker 2: Chargers have this task to get over the hump. I'm 1276 01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,479 Speaker 2: not so sure they can. A lot of injuries. Last 1277 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:07,839 Speaker 2: year they were ten and seven, and if their defense 1278 01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,360 Speaker 2: is healthy, they got a shot at making a run 1279 01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:14,479 Speaker 2: at the AFC West. Otherwise they're gonna be relegated. It's 1280 01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:18,759 Speaker 2: gonna take on my herculean effort to overcome the Chiefs. Meanwhile, 1281 01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:22,120 Speaker 2: the Broncos plus four to seventy five. People thought Denver 1282 01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,360 Speaker 2: would take the huge lead forward. Last year, they finished 1283 01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,479 Speaker 2: five and twelve. Nathaniel Hackett is a four letter word 1284 01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,519 Speaker 2: in Denver. He lost his job. Russell Wilson has now 1285 01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,240 Speaker 2: got a new label. He's one of the most overpaid 1286 01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:36,639 Speaker 2: players in the league. However, I think currently the culture 1287 01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:38,920 Speaker 2: of the Broncos and for one, wife heard we've had 1288 01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:42,720 Speaker 2: Chad Andres of one oh four point three three the 1289 01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,160 Speaker 2: fan in Denver on my show a couple of times, 1290 01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:50,120 Speaker 2: been very candid. Sean Payton has truly reconfigured the culture 1291 01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,160 Speaker 2: in a Denver and I think they're gonna show results 1292 01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:58,719 Speaker 2: right away. I really do not. For nothing, Denver's defense 1293 01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,240 Speaker 2: gave up the eighth fet uist yards last year and 1294 01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:04,880 Speaker 2: the twelfth fewest points despite being on the field the 1295 01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,960 Speaker 2: tenth most minutes in the league. So if Sean Payton 1296 01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,559 Speaker 2: can figure out the offense, if he can get Russell 1297 01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:15,080 Speaker 2: back to a fac simile of what he was before, 1298 01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:20,160 Speaker 2: Denver can compete. Denver can't compete other Raiders. They're twelve 1299 01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:23,240 Speaker 2: to one to win the division. Currently, I think this 1300 01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,439 Speaker 2: is an organization that very much looks like a drunk 1301 01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:29,479 Speaker 2: crossing an icy street. They got problems, real problems. You 1302 01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:31,960 Speaker 2: can call them long shots, but they're worse than that. Now. 1303 01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,120 Speaker 2: They finished one game ahead of the Broncos last year 1304 01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:36,840 Speaker 2: at six to eleven, but they had a bunch of 1305 01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:40,439 Speaker 2: offseason shacups. The top storyline, of course here in Las Vegas, 1306 01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,479 Speaker 2: the start of Jimmy g Era, which coincides with the 1307 01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:47,559 Speaker 2: end of Derek Carr's tenure. Now DeVante Adams is back. 1308 01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:52,280 Speaker 2: We'll see if what the Raiders do with Josh Jacobs. 1309 01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,800 Speaker 2: So far, he's franchised and they've got to money to 1310 01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:57,960 Speaker 2: get a deal. If they don't, Jacobs is saying he 1311 01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:02,160 Speaker 2: might sit out. We'll see what happened. But the Josh McDaniels, 1312 01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:05,080 Speaker 2: and I'll stick with the line I used two years 1313 01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,759 Speaker 2: ago when it was announced that Josh McDaniels was coming 1314 01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:10,800 Speaker 2: to Las Vegas. Someone asked what did I think of that? 1315 01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,320 Speaker 2: I said, well, is he bringing Belichick and Brady with him? 1316 01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:16,639 Speaker 2: Because if he is, that might be okay, Not so much, 1317 01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,080 Speaker 2: you know how I feel about that. Not change in 1318 01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:22,280 Speaker 2: my mind. Raiders defense keep up the seventh most points 1319 01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:24,800 Speaker 2: in the league last season. They're still very poorous in 1320 01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:27,479 Speaker 2: the secondary. Hopefully they can get a good year out 1321 01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:30,599 Speaker 2: of Max Crosby and a better year out of Chandler Jones. 1322 01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:33,479 Speaker 2: They did draft a good guy SEVD overall Tyree Wilson. 1323 01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,080 Speaker 2: But I think the Raiders have holes all over the 1324 01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:39,960 Speaker 2: place and they're in arguably the toughest division in football. 1325 01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:43,040 Speaker 2: Chiefs over under wins eleven and a half. Chiefs had 1326 01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,760 Speaker 2: fourteen wins last year. Can they get to twelve? I 1327 01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,559 Speaker 2: don't see why not. It's no secret they're the team 1328 01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:51,800 Speaker 2: to beat. They flourish since Mahomes stick over. There's a 1329 01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,680 Speaker 2: point where the season gets long for other teams when 1330 01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:56,880 Speaker 2: they have to play the Chiefs, And I would just 1331 01:11:56,920 --> 01:12:00,640 Speaker 2: say this, the Chiefs have won twelve plus game in 1332 01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:03,200 Speaker 2: all five years with Mahomes as a starter. Do I 1333 01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:05,479 Speaker 2: think they're going over eleven and a half wins? Yes, 1334 01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:09,320 Speaker 2: Chargers over under nine and a half wins on paper, 1335 01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,960 Speaker 2: one of the most talented rosters in the NFL, So 1336 01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,599 Speaker 2: the key is staying healthy. Herbert has the best chance 1337 01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:17,320 Speaker 2: in his career to win an MVP. He's got a good, 1338 01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:21,360 Speaker 2: maybe almost elite receiving corps. They do lose Austin Eckler, 1339 01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:24,360 Speaker 2: that'll put more pressure on his shoulders. But I would 1340 01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:27,000 Speaker 2: say the Chargers have increased their win total in each 1341 01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:30,080 Speaker 2: of the last four seasons from five four years ago 1342 01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:33,040 Speaker 2: to ten in twenty twenty two. Can the Chargers go 1343 01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:36,519 Speaker 2: ten and seven? Absolutely? Even Brandon Saley shouldn't screw that up. 1344 01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:39,320 Speaker 2: I think the Chargers go over nine and a half wins. 1345 01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,120 Speaker 2: Denver eight and a half wins. Now, they're a team 1346 01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:44,960 Speaker 2: begging to be competitive again. I think Sean Payton is 1347 01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:46,760 Speaker 2: one of the best coaches in the league. Will be 1348 01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:48,960 Speaker 2: a major upgrade over Hacket. Gets to work with an 1349 01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:51,920 Speaker 2: elite defense and a veteran quarterback. He's been a winner, 1350 01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:55,680 Speaker 2: he's been proven. The Broncos only scored more than sixteen 1351 01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:58,640 Speaker 2: points five times last year, and they went three and 1352 01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,439 Speaker 2: two in those games. Nine of their eleven losses were 1353 01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:04,320 Speaker 2: by one score. Can Denver go nine and eight? I 1354 01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,360 Speaker 2: believe they can. The one team that's going under their 1355 01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,880 Speaker 2: win total. I believe the Raiders will go under their 1356 01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,479 Speaker 2: win totals seven and a half. They're sort of playing 1357 01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,160 Speaker 2: with house money. And by the way, that total is 1358 01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,519 Speaker 2: down to seven six and a half in some books, 1359 01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,160 Speaker 2: depending on where you shop. Yes, they were four and 1360 01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,639 Speaker 2: four of their final leg games of the season, and 1361 01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,240 Speaker 2: they were three and three in their division. But you 1362 01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:27,200 Speaker 2: have to know how sketchy this team looks, right now 1363 01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:32,320 Speaker 2: they better hope Jimmy Garoppolo is healthy. If not, you 1364 01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:36,599 Speaker 2: fall on the shoulders of Brian Hoyer. I don't think 1365 01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:39,000 Speaker 2: they want that, So there you have it. I do 1366 01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:43,599 Speaker 2: expect Kansas City to win the division. Chargers second, Denver 1367 01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,679 Speaker 2: is gonna compete. I think Denver can win nine games, 1368 01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:48,760 Speaker 2: the Chargers can win ten, Kansas City she win twelve 1369 01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,200 Speaker 2: or thirteen. Raiders, I think they're looking at a six 1370 01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:53,680 Speaker 2: and eleven maybe if they get hot, a seven and 1371 01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:57,240 Speaker 2: ten season. Yes, you heard it. I'm not being funny here, 1372 01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:01,439 Speaker 2: It's really the way I feel coming up. Take Heart. 1373 01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,519 Speaker 2: If you are an Angel fan or a team that 1374 01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:05,280 Speaker 2: was off to a slow start the first half of 1375 01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:09,240 Speaker 2: the season, history tells us you're not dead yet. Hope 1376 01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:13,160 Speaker 2: does spring eternal even in July. I'm Bernie Fradderer coming 1377 01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:15,320 Speaker 2: to your live from Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio, Tireck 1378 01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,840 Speaker 2: dot com studios. Don't go away. You're listening to the 1379 01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:22,800 Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right back 1380 01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,320 Speaker 2: on the Bernie Frattle Show. Come to your live from 1381 01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:29,800 Speaker 2: Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio, Tirack dot Com studios. Take 1382 01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:33,280 Speaker 2: up to three and Pacific, six am Eastern. Take Heart. 1383 01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:37,479 Speaker 2: Angels fans take Hart, Reds fans take heart. Any major 1384 01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:41,240 Speaker 2: League team fan who believes that the season is lost. 1385 01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:44,719 Speaker 2: It is only July sixteenth. And what if I told 1386 01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:49,479 Speaker 2: you that since nineteen ninety five alone, there were eleven 1387 01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:54,080 Speaker 2: teams in that span who were under five hundred at 1388 01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,000 Speaker 2: the All Star break that came back to win their division. 1389 01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:58,760 Speaker 2: There were nine teams that came back to make the 1390 01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:02,479 Speaker 2: wild Card. But even long before the Wildcard, there have 1391 01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:05,800 Speaker 2: been teams that were down but not out. And I'm 1392 01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:07,760 Speaker 2: going to refresh your memory on what I believe are 1393 01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:10,360 Speaker 2: the greatest pen and Chase comebacks of all time. Do 1394 01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:13,280 Speaker 2: you remember the nineteen seventy eight New York Yankees. They 1395 01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,920 Speaker 2: were coming off the seventy seven World Series against the Dodgers, 1396 01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:19,160 Speaker 2: but on July the twentieth, and there was no wild 1397 01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:22,439 Speaker 2: Card back then. The Yankees trailed the Red Sox by 1398 01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:26,640 Speaker 2: fourteen games in the Al East on July twentieth. But 1399 01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:28,720 Speaker 2: what did the Bronx Bombers do? They got hot, They 1400 01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:31,000 Speaker 2: went fifty two and twenty went down the stretch that 1401 01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,920 Speaker 2: led to the famous game. October second, nineteen seventy eight, 1402 01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:37,360 Speaker 2: Bucky Dent hit a game winning home run in the 1403 01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:41,280 Speaker 2: one game tiebreaker to give New York the division and 1404 01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:44,639 Speaker 2: broke the Red Sox. Hearts of my good buddy Jeremy Shapp. 1405 01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:46,280 Speaker 2: He was eight years old at the time. Is dad, 1406 01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:49,519 Speaker 2: Dick Schap brought him to the game, and he missed 1407 01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:51,840 Speaker 2: the home run because he was buying his son popcorn 1408 01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:56,160 Speaker 2: and a coke. And he said his dad never forgave 1409 01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:59,880 Speaker 2: him for that. The nineteen ninety five Seattle Mariners Ken 1410 01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:03,200 Speaker 2: Gray Junior. That was a team that played the game 1411 01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:06,720 Speaker 2: with unmitigated open end to joy. August third, the Mariners 1412 01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:10,080 Speaker 2: trailed the California Angels by thirteen games, and they were 1413 01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:13,160 Speaker 2: two games under five hundred at August third, but the 1414 01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:17,040 Speaker 2: Mariners got hot, went thirty five and ten. The Angels 1415 01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:19,240 Speaker 2: went twenty two and thirty three in their final fifty 1416 01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:22,400 Speaker 2: five games. Seattle wins the West. They went all the 1417 01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:26,960 Speaker 2: way to the Alcs before they fell to the Cleveland Indians. 1418 01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:30,479 Speaker 2: How about the lovable Chicago Cubs. Back on July fifth, 1419 01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:35,040 Speaker 2: nineteen thirty five, they were eleven games behind the New 1420 01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,639 Speaker 2: York Giants, but they went sixty two and twenty two 1421 01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:40,160 Speaker 2: down the stretch. They even won twenty one games in 1422 01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:43,360 Speaker 2: a row starting on Labor Day, they won the pennant. 1423 01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:46,120 Speaker 2: Not only won the pennant, they won a pennant by 1424 01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:50,320 Speaker 2: four games. Now you probably remember this in nineteen ninety 1425 01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:53,519 Speaker 2: three Atlanta Braves. The Giants are running away with it. 1426 01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:57,880 Speaker 2: That was Barry Bond's first year. But the Braves were 1427 01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:00,960 Speaker 2: off the division lead by ten games. On Lie twenty third, 1428 01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:04,719 Speaker 2: Remember this is only July sixteenth, they bring in crime 1429 01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,519 Speaker 2: dog McGriff. They go forty nine and sixteen in their 1430 01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:10,320 Speaker 2: final sixty five games. They win the NL West over 1431 01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:13,840 Speaker 2: the Giants by one game. Sixty four Cardinals, led by 1432 01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:17,759 Speaker 2: Bob Gibson, eleven games out on August twenty fourth, twenty 1433 01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,559 Speaker 2: eight to eleven down the stretch, they win the pennant. 1434 01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:25,480 Speaker 2: The nineteen sixty nine amazing Mets. Yes. On August fourteenth, 1435 01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,280 Speaker 2: the New York Mets trail the Chicago Cubs by ten 1436 01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,760 Speaker 2: games in the NL East, they go thirty eight to 1437 01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:34,439 Speaker 2: eleven down the stretch. The miracle Mets win the East 1438 01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:36,800 Speaker 2: by eight games. They went on to win the World 1439 01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:41,240 Speaker 2: Series in five over the Baltimore Orioles. Now they get 1440 01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:43,040 Speaker 2: to a way back on a cookie jar on this 1441 01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:47,439 Speaker 2: but it happened August ninth the Saint Louis Cardinals the 1442 01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:50,439 Speaker 2: Gas House Game nineteen thirty. There were twelve games out 1443 01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:53,240 Speaker 2: on August ninth, only one game over five hundred. On 1444 01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:56,120 Speaker 2: August ninth, they go thirty nine and ten down the stretch. 1445 01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:59,519 Speaker 2: They beat the Cubs. The forty two Cardinals twelve years 1446 01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:04,360 Speaker 2: later say franchise ten games back. On August fifth, they 1447 01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:07,599 Speaker 2: go forty four and nine, unheard of down the stretch, 1448 01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,360 Speaker 2: they overtake the Dodgers for the n L crown. And then, 1449 01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:12,840 Speaker 2: of course, who can forget the shot heard around the 1450 01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:17,879 Speaker 2: world Bobby Thompson nineteen fifty one, the New York Giants. 1451 01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:22,920 Speaker 2: The Giants trailed the Dodgers by thirteen games. On August twelfth, 1452 01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:25,920 Speaker 2: they go thirty eight and seven in their final forty 1453 01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:29,200 Speaker 2: five games. They forced a one game playoff with Brooklyn. 1454 01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:32,880 Speaker 2: Bobby Thompson's shot heard around the world gave the Giants 1455 01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:37,240 Speaker 2: this walk off win. Broadcaster Russ Hodges, You've heard it 1456 01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,839 Speaker 2: a thousand times. The Giants won the pennant. The Giants 1457 01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:42,719 Speaker 2: win the pennant. My buddy Dick Shapp was so upset, 1458 01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:44,760 Speaker 2: he said, if he'd have been in an elevator with 1459 01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,479 Speaker 2: a gun, and Rolf Brankett gave up the home run 1460 01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:50,519 Speaker 2: and Bobby Thompson hit it, he would have shot them both. 1461 01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:53,960 Speaker 2: Take heart, angels fans. You don't see how it can happen, 1462 01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:57,000 Speaker 2: and it might not happen, but there are ten quick 1463 01:18:57,080 --> 01:19:01,080 Speaker 2: examples right there that hope springs eternal. Major League Baseball 1464 01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:03,920 Speaker 2: eat it in August. Come up with chronicle the life 1465 01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:06,360 Speaker 2: of Kurt Flood. You're gonna want to hear this story. 1466 01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:11,080 Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Fratto. This is Fox Sports Radio. Keep it locked, Bernie. 1467 01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:13,360 Speaker 2: Now you heard the man that Bernie Fraddle show keeps 1468 01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:16,400 Speaker 2: rolling right along. My name is Bernie Frattle, coming you 1469 01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:19,240 Speaker 2: live from the tarrac dot com studios Fox Sports Radio 1470 01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:21,960 Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas. Tire act dot com. I hope 1471 01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,920 Speaker 2: you get there. An unmatched selection, fast free shipping, free 1472 01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:28,560 Speaker 2: road answer protection, and over ten thousand recommend an installers 1473 01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:33,400 Speaker 2: tyraq dot com the way tire buying should be. If 1474 01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:35,519 Speaker 2: you saw the Air movie in April, I bet you 1475 01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,559 Speaker 2: liked it. I bet you probably didn't know the story. 1476 01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:43,200 Speaker 2: I'm lucky met Jimmy Vicero, Sonny's brother, many times, knowing 1477 01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:47,519 Speaker 2: wellre South went in Vegas, met Sonny once remember that story. 1478 01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:50,800 Speaker 2: Why do I bring it up because I think it 1479 01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,960 Speaker 2: opens the door for a story that needs to be told, 1480 01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:56,439 Speaker 2: and it needs to be told in the big screen 1481 01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:59,640 Speaker 2: about a guy named Kurt Flood. Kurt Flood died in 1482 01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:04,280 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety seven. Free agency in baseball, as we know 1483 01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:08,320 Speaker 2: it was basically born in nineteen seventy five. So Baseball 1484 01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:13,800 Speaker 2: in the Union had ample time twenty two years to 1485 01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:18,759 Speaker 2: do something to help Kurt Flood, and they whift. Here's 1486 01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:22,080 Speaker 2: the story. So, back when Kurt Flood played, there was 1487 01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:25,080 Speaker 2: no such thing as free agency. When you signed with 1488 01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:27,280 Speaker 2: the major League Baseball team, they owned your rights and 1489 01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:32,280 Speaker 2: you were relegated essentially to a life of indentured servitude. Now, 1490 01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:35,479 Speaker 2: every free agent in any sport who was signed a 1491 01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:39,479 Speaker 2: megadeal contract going back to nineteen seventy six, you should 1492 01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:43,840 Speaker 2: be bowing at the altar of Kurt Flood. The fact 1493 01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:47,120 Speaker 2: that Major League Baseball or the Players Union didn't take 1494 01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:50,599 Speaker 2: care of him before his death. His criminal There needs 1495 01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:54,400 Speaker 2: to be a movie now. I would say most casual 1496 01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:57,960 Speaker 2: fans and probably most Major League Baseball players are either 1497 01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:02,559 Speaker 2: unaware of Kurt Flood and they don't understand what his 1498 01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:08,439 Speaker 2: relationship with was when it came to toppling. What baseball 1499 01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:12,519 Speaker 2: had was a long established policy called the reserve clause, 1500 01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:16,519 Speaker 2: and it opened the door for free agency. Now, many 1501 01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:21,599 Speaker 2: many many years ago, HBO Sports did a vignette called 1502 01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:24,920 Speaker 2: The Curious Case of Kurt Flood. It was a documentary 1503 01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:26,880 Speaker 2: I don't recall ever seeing, and I didn't even know 1504 01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:30,040 Speaker 2: what was out, but I told it was. Kurt Flood 1505 01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:32,400 Speaker 2: was in fact an All Star outfielder for the Saint 1506 01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:35,759 Speaker 2: Louis Cardinals in the sixties. I remember he played center 1507 01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:39,400 Speaker 2: field in the sixty seven series when the Cardinals beat Boston. 1508 01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:42,240 Speaker 2: In sixty eighth series, when the Cardinals lost to the 1509 01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:47,280 Speaker 2: Detroit Tigers, and Flood challenged the reserve clause because he 1510 01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,599 Speaker 2: was traded to Philadelphia. He didn't want to go there, 1511 01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:53,519 Speaker 2: and he took Major League Baseball to court and he 1512 01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:55,760 Speaker 2: ultimately lost. He took it to the Supreme Court in 1513 01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:59,960 Speaker 2: nineteen seventy two and his career was over. Kurt Flood 1514 01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:04,000 Speaker 2: never played Major League baseball again, but that case in 1515 01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:08,960 Speaker 2: nineteen seventy two completely galvanized the Major League Baseball Players 1516 01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:13,639 Speaker 2: Association in their fight because they were seeking impartial arbitration 1517 01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:17,040 Speaker 2: and they were seeking free agency, and by nineteen seventy five, 1518 01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:21,400 Speaker 2: the union finally prevailed, They got their way, and free 1519 01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:25,439 Speaker 2: agency was born, and it very quickly changed the face 1520 01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:32,240 Speaker 2: of baseball. Kurt Flood has basically become a historical footnote. 1521 01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:36,040 Speaker 2: There are multiple seven figure salaries just about I mean, 1522 01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,439 Speaker 2: the average major league salary in baseball is about three 1523 01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:41,280 Speaker 2: million dollars a year now, and all this high stakes 1524 01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:47,160 Speaker 2: collective bargaining agreement stuff, it's become the norm. And again 1525 01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:51,320 Speaker 2: I understand, it's my understanding that HBO did a documentary 1526 01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:53,799 Speaker 2: sometime around two thousand and eight. Two I didn't see it, okay, 1527 01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:57,519 Speaker 2: But rather than dive into the legal situations and twists 1528 01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:04,680 Speaker 2: in turns of Kurt Flood versus Bowieki, it begs the 1529 01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:12,080 Speaker 2: curiosity to further examine Kurt Flood's life and how much 1530 01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:20,639 Speaker 2: he suffered. Because Flood dealt with many battles involving racism, alcoholism, 1531 01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:26,320 Speaker 2: He was financially ruined, his family faced turmoil, and these 1532 01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:31,240 Speaker 2: are things that made him fight baseball harder because he 1533 01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:35,000 Speaker 2: wanted the same rights that major league athletes in all 1534 01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:40,160 Speaker 2: four sports take, you know, take for granted. Now, I 1535 01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:44,439 Speaker 2: think and what was unfortunate is Flood's teammates admitted that 1536 01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:47,040 Speaker 2: they really couldn't back them because they were afraid they'd 1537 01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:52,439 Speaker 2: lose their jobs as well. And Marvin Miller, who's probably 1538 01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:55,400 Speaker 2: the most influential director of all time with the Major 1539 01:23:55,479 --> 01:24:00,479 Speaker 2: League Baseball Players Association, told Flood, don't take on baseball. 1540 01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:05,120 Speaker 2: He got a million one chance of prevailing. Interestingly enough, 1541 01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:08,360 Speaker 2: in a way, Flood prevailed. He just never was able 1542 01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:13,919 Speaker 2: to He was never able to reap the benefits. Bob Gibson, 1543 01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:16,640 Speaker 2: the All Hall of Fame pitcher, Flood's teammate and a 1544 01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:20,160 Speaker 2: very close friend. He was very candid. People ask people, 1545 01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:22,800 Speaker 2: were you behind Kurt Flood? He says, yeah, I was 1546 01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:26,479 Speaker 2: behind Kurt Flood, ten steps behind Kurt Flood. He didn't 1547 01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:31,080 Speaker 2: want the fallout. He didn't want the fallout. He none 1548 01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:34,200 Speaker 2: of the players did. They were afraid that what happened 1549 01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:37,519 Speaker 2: to Kurt Flood would happen to them. But if Kurt 1550 01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:42,560 Speaker 2: Flood had not existed, I really wonder what might have 1551 01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:46,280 Speaker 2: happened in terms of how free agency would have been born. 1552 01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:50,400 Speaker 2: Kurt Flood, in his significance in baseball history, is something 1553 01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:53,120 Speaker 2: that really can't be understood just by looking at some 1554 01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:56,040 Speaker 2: simple record book. Okay, you got to look at the 1555 01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:59,400 Speaker 2: man's life. But he did play fifteen years from fifty 1556 01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:02,599 Speaker 2: six to seven one. He did take the nineteen seventy 1557 01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:05,360 Speaker 2: season off. He batted two to ninety three years. A 1558 01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:07,919 Speaker 2: three time All Star, he played center field for the Cardinals, 1559 01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:11,400 Speaker 2: won seven goal gloves. He was on three Pennant winning 1560 01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:15,920 Speaker 2: teams and earned two World Series rings. But at the 1561 01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:19,200 Speaker 2: end of the sixty nine season, the Saint Louis Cardinals 1562 01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:22,240 Speaker 2: traded him, along with Tim McCarver a couple of other players, 1563 01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:24,879 Speaker 2: to the Phillies for Dick Allen a couple other players. 1564 01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:27,960 Speaker 2: But the trade was different from any other trade because 1565 01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:31,440 Speaker 2: this is one of those situations where one of the stars, 1566 01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:35,519 Speaker 2: it was really Kurt Flood for Dick Allen, and there 1567 01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:37,599 Speaker 2: were the other players on both sides were throw ins. 1568 01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:42,240 Speaker 2: Kurt Flood refused to go. He not only refused to go, 1569 01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:44,640 Speaker 2: but he went to his personal lawyer and then to 1570 01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:48,519 Speaker 2: Marvin Miller, who was the founder and executive director of 1571 01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:51,200 Speaker 2: the Players Association, told him he wanted to assume Major 1572 01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:55,200 Speaker 2: League Baseball. This really sent shock waves not only through 1573 01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:59,920 Speaker 2: baseball but really all professional sports. And you can feel 1574 01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:04,920 Speaker 2: those waves today Because Kurt Flood stood his ground. He 1575 01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:08,559 Speaker 2: was aware that would cost him dearly. He was aware 1576 01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,519 Speaker 2: he was bringing his baseball life to an end, but 1577 01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:16,880 Speaker 2: he never wavered. See back in nineteen sixty nine, if 1578 01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:19,160 Speaker 2: you were a player in the Major League Baseball you 1579 01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,640 Speaker 2: were bound to your team for life. There was a 1580 01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:26,800 Speaker 2: thing called the reserve claw. Simply put, the player was property. 1581 01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:30,080 Speaker 2: The team owned you. You were property unless the team 1582 01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:33,479 Speaker 2: chose to trade you or release you. The first big 1583 01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:35,679 Speaker 2: league team you would sign with would be the only 1584 01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:38,320 Speaker 2: big League team you'd play for your entire career. A 1585 01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:43,400 Speaker 2: player's only recourse was just simply to retire. Interestingly enough, 1586 01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:46,720 Speaker 2: the language of the reserve clause was very confusing. You 1587 01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,000 Speaker 2: merely said if you played for a team, you must 1588 01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,639 Speaker 2: play for that team the next season. As well. Well 1589 01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:54,639 Speaker 2: two players before Flood it also challenged the reserve clause, 1590 01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:58,120 Speaker 2: and they ran up against Baseball's exemption from their anti 1591 01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:02,840 Speaker 2: trust laws and they lost. So the reserve clause really 1592 01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:07,160 Speaker 2: was an anti trust exemption, and leaguer scholars argue it 1593 01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:10,559 Speaker 2: as to its legality and such, But the courts are saying, yes, 1594 01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:12,920 Speaker 2: you're an American, you have the right to see comployment anywhere 1595 01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:16,560 Speaker 2: you like. But this right does not apply to baseball players. 1596 01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:20,120 Speaker 2: So when Kurt Flood came to Marvin Miller, his mind 1597 01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:24,240 Speaker 2: was made up. Flood said, I told Marvin Miller that 1598 01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:27,679 Speaker 2: given the court's history a bias towards owners in their monopoly, 1599 01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:29,720 Speaker 2: I didn't have a chance. I know we don't have 1600 01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:31,759 Speaker 2: a chance in what in hellow Winny. But more important 1601 01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:35,200 Speaker 2: that even if Kurt Flood knew that if he won, 1602 01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:38,639 Speaker 2: he wouldn't get anything. Even if he won the case, 1603 01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:40,760 Speaker 2: he wouldn't get anything because he'd never get a job 1604 01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:45,280 Speaker 2: in baseball again. But then Marvin Miller asked Kurt Flood 1605 01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:48,400 Speaker 2: a question, and this is why I believe there needs 1606 01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:51,599 Speaker 2: to be a short wing in the Hall of Fame 1607 01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:56,120 Speaker 2: honoring Kurt Flood. Because Marvin Miller asked, Kurt Flood, do 1608 01:27:56,160 --> 01:28:00,599 Speaker 2: you think what you're doing will benefit other players? Says yes, 1609 01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:04,280 Speaker 2: not only the Kurd players, but those to come. Marvin 1610 01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:07,559 Speaker 2: Miller said, that's good enough for me. And when Marvin 1611 01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:11,320 Speaker 2: Miller realized that Flood understood the odds were against him 1612 01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:13,439 Speaker 2: and he was still determined to go ahead with the case, 1613 01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:20,800 Speaker 2: Marvin Miller simply said, you are a union leader's dream. 1614 01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:24,320 Speaker 2: Kurt Flood was born in nineteen thirty eight in Houston, 1615 01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:30,160 Speaker 2: but he was raised in Oakland, California, and the Flood 1616 01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:34,600 Speaker 2: family was the subject and the target of tremendous racial bigotry. 1617 01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:38,040 Speaker 2: This was before World War Two in the South. Then 1618 01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:40,080 Speaker 2: never let him forget what things had been like before 1619 01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:43,640 Speaker 2: he grew up. And even when he went on in 1620 01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:48,000 Speaker 2: the minor leagues and played in states like Mississippi, the 1621 01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:56,120 Speaker 2: racial prejudices he felt were very much, you know, egregious. 1622 01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:00,439 Speaker 2: Most black baseball stars, Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Ernie Banks, 1623 01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:03,960 Speaker 2: they were not wanting to really get involved during the 1624 01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:08,240 Speaker 2: Civil rights movement. So Kurt Flood's activism was way ahead 1625 01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:10,080 Speaker 2: of his time. And when it came for him to 1626 01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:12,400 Speaker 2: take a stand on being traded to Philadelphia, says, look, 1627 01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:15,679 Speaker 2: I do not regard myself as a piece of property 1628 01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:18,200 Speaker 2: to be bought or sold. This is what he told 1629 01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:20,800 Speaker 2: Commissioner Buy Kuhn in a letter he wrote when he 1630 01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:26,439 Speaker 2: requested the right to simply be a free agent. Kuhn said, basically, well, 1631 01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:29,120 Speaker 2: I'm sympathetic to your feelings, but I don't see how 1632 01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:33,479 Speaker 2: that applies to us. Well, Flood's teammates or colleagues, they 1633 01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:36,880 Speaker 2: were very skeptical of the suit. They didn't support him, 1634 01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:41,280 Speaker 2: And on the day that Kurt testified in court challenging 1635 01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:45,519 Speaker 2: Baseball's reserve clause, there were only two former players that 1636 01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:51,280 Speaker 2: actually stood by him, Jackie Robinson and Hank Greenberg. No 1637 01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:57,559 Speaker 2: active player in Major League Baseball stood by Kurt Flood. Now, 1638 01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:02,800 Speaker 2: the reason was simple. They were all fearful of retaliation 1639 01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:07,599 Speaker 2: from Major League Baseball owners. So Marvin Miller thought this 1640 01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:13,519 Speaker 2: was an impossible goal, but it amazingly actually came close 1641 01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:18,439 Speaker 2: to being in reach because when the Supreme Court announced 1642 01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:24,880 Speaker 2: their decision in nineteen seventy two, three members voted for Flood, 1643 01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:30,320 Speaker 2: five against, but Judge Lewis Powell, who was very sympathetic 1644 01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:35,160 Speaker 2: to Kurt Flood, withdrew from the case because he claimed 1645 01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:39,360 Speaker 2: there was a conflict of interest. He actually owned stock 1646 01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:43,280 Speaker 2: and anheuser Busch and nheuser Busch owned the Saint Louis Cardinals. 1647 01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:46,800 Speaker 2: But if Paul had remained, Flood might have won a 1648 01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:50,639 Speaker 2: five to four decision, But his withdrawal and combined by 1649 01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:56,160 Speaker 2: Chief Justice Warren Berger, who changed his mind. He initially 1650 01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:58,800 Speaker 2: was going to vote for Flood, but changed his mind 1651 01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:01,559 Speaker 2: in the eleventh hour, and in effect the court ruled 1652 01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:06,639 Speaker 2: that in reality, Flood maybe should have been a free agent, 1653 01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:09,920 Speaker 2: but baseball had an anti trustee that could only be 1654 01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:12,439 Speaker 2: removed by an Act of Congress, and free agency for 1655 01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:16,360 Speaker 2: players should only be attained through collective bargaining. And that 1656 01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:19,799 Speaker 2: is precisely what happened. None of this happens about Kurt Flood. 1657 01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:22,600 Speaker 2: Because of the pressure that Kurt Flood's suit brought to 1658 01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:26,160 Speaker 2: baseball and baseball owners, Marvin Miller said the union was 1659 01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:30,280 Speaker 2: able to bargain for binding arbitration on grievances, and finally, 1660 01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:35,240 Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy six, pitchers Andy Meslersmith and Dave McNally 1661 01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:39,080 Speaker 2: they agreed to play a season without a contract, and 1662 01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:44,080 Speaker 2: an arbitrator deemed them free agents overnight. Overnight, it changed 1663 01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:48,080 Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy six, and the system that Marvin Miller 1664 01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:54,400 Speaker 2: called once feudal, the one that ruled baseball since its inception, collapsed. 1665 01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:58,800 Speaker 2: What's interesting is the pundits started the weigh in. They 1666 01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:01,719 Speaker 2: said this would bring this would bring doom and gloom 1667 01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:06,160 Speaker 2: to the game. Players would be overpaid and the owners 1668 01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:11,519 Speaker 2: and skyrocketing salaries it would all ruin baseball. Unfortunately, Kurt 1669 01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:14,080 Speaker 2: Flood didn't benefit from any of this. He was a 1670 01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:17,000 Speaker 2: sensitive man, he was a high strung man, and he 1671 01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:19,600 Speaker 2: was a heavy drinker. He'd been a heavy drinker his 1672 01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:26,040 Speaker 2: whole life. His marriage fell apart, and as a man 1673 01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:28,439 Speaker 2: on an island doing the best he could to stand 1674 01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:30,840 Speaker 2: up for his rights, the only thing that happened on 1675 01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:33,760 Speaker 2: a daily basis were death threats. He claimed he was 1676 01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:36,360 Speaker 2: getting three to four to five death threats a day. 1677 01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:38,280 Speaker 2: So what did you do? He moved to Spain, moved 1678 01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:41,800 Speaker 2: to my arc of Spain, and he was in debt. 1679 01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:46,800 Speaker 2: He had unpaid child support. He'd been guilted into being 1680 01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:50,480 Speaker 2: a bad father, and he ended up in a psychiatric 1681 01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:54,120 Speaker 2: hospital in Barcelona. Finally, his sister sent him money to 1682 01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:57,760 Speaker 2: return to the United States, and by the time he 1683 01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:02,520 Speaker 2: got back, he was a He was a broken man. 1684 01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:07,519 Speaker 2: And somehow Kurt Flood started to put his life back 1685 01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:10,760 Speaker 2: together and in the early nineties he was given the 1686 01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:14,840 Speaker 2: Jackie Robinson Award by the NAACP for his contributions to 1687 01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:18,040 Speaker 2: black athletes, and in nineteen ninety four, and maybe what 1688 01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:20,080 Speaker 2: turned out to be one of the most satisfying moments 1689 01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:23,400 Speaker 2: of his life. Kurt Flood gave a speech on solidarity 1690 01:33:23,439 --> 01:33:26,120 Speaker 2: to the players as they prepared to go on strike, 1691 01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:29,320 Speaker 2: which they did do in nineteen ninety four. I know 1692 01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:31,160 Speaker 2: it all too well. That was my debut and radio 1693 01:33:31,160 --> 01:33:33,799 Speaker 2: in June. They went on strike on August eleventh, nineteen 1694 01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:36,559 Speaker 2: ninety four, canceled the World Series. And you know what 1695 01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:41,800 Speaker 2: happened after that twenty five years twenty five years after 1696 01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:45,920 Speaker 2: Kurt Flood had announced a suit against Baseball. He was 1697 01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:48,519 Speaker 2: given a standing ovation by the players after his speech, 1698 01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:52,080 Speaker 2: but it was too late. Kurt Flood never benefited from 1699 01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:54,200 Speaker 2: any of this. I don't know why they didn't take 1700 01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:57,080 Speaker 2: up a collection plate and take care of the guy. Finally, 1701 01:33:57,439 --> 01:34:00,240 Speaker 2: decades as a heavy smoker and a heavy drinker caught 1702 01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:03,320 Speaker 2: up to him. In nineteen ninety five, he was diagnosed 1703 01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:08,559 Speaker 2: with throat cancer. However, fortunately a lawyer who represented him 1704 01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:12,320 Speaker 2: paid his medical bills. But in January and nineteen ninety seven, 1705 01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:16,519 Speaker 2: two days before his fifty ninth birthday, Kurt Flood passed 1706 01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:20,520 Speaker 2: and Jesse Jackson did his eulogy, and in the final epitaph, 1707 01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:25,880 Speaker 2: Jesse Jackson said, quote Baseball didn't change Kurt Flood Kurt 1708 01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:30,360 Speaker 2: Flood changed baseball. He fought the good fight, a true martyr. 1709 01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:34,880 Speaker 2: So when Shohey Otani gets his big deal next year, 1710 01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:38,720 Speaker 2: or any player from that matter, Juan Soto, or in 1711 01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:41,920 Speaker 2: any sport for that matter, if Dalvin Cook gets paid, 1712 01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:47,120 Speaker 2: if Sakwan Barkley gets paid, if the NBA players continue 1713 01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:49,080 Speaker 2: to get paid to the tune of two billion dollars, 1714 01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:53,000 Speaker 2: even NHL, somewhere in their mind and heart, they should 1715 01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:57,080 Speaker 2: recognize Kurt Flood. Without Kurt Flood, I'm not so sure 1716 01:34:57,280 --> 01:35:01,520 Speaker 2: any of this Happens Air movie was a big success. 1717 01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:06,840 Speaker 2: I think floodmovie would be, maybe even a bigger success. 1718 01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:10,240 Speaker 2: Tonight Show brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Progressive makes 1719 01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:13,280 Speaker 2: bundling easy and affordable. Get a multi policy discount by 1720 01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:16,400 Speaker 2: combining your motorcycle, RV, boat, ATV and more, all your 1721 01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:21,360 Speaker 2: protection in one place. Bundle and save at Progressive dot com. 1722 01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:26,280 Speaker 2: Speaking of dollars and cents, they say the running back 1723 01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:30,000 Speaker 2: position is being devalued. I'm not so sure I agree 1724 01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:34,479 Speaker 2: with that narrative. Maybe there's a shift, but there are 1725 01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:37,840 Speaker 2: reasons why. And let me bring you some facts and 1726 01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:40,400 Speaker 2: figures you may not be aware of. I'm Bernie Frattle 1727 01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:43,880 Speaker 2: Company Live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio tirect 1728 01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:46,519 Speaker 2: dot Com studios. Keep it locked, You're listening to the 1729 01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:49,200 Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right, back 1730 01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:52,599 Speaker 2: on the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio Company Live 1731 01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:56,080 Speaker 2: from the Tirac dot Com studios here in Las Vegas. 1732 01:35:56,120 --> 01:35:58,439 Speaker 2: Coming up top of the hour, what kind of brand 1733 01:35:58,439 --> 01:36:01,120 Speaker 2: new fool of you fin followed by what my name? 1734 01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:06,040 Speaker 2: The dance Sensation's sweeping the nation. This is sort of 1735 01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:10,960 Speaker 2: an interesting follow up to the Kurt flood saga NFL 1736 01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:14,400 Speaker 2: running backs. If I had a nickel for every time 1737 01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:18,160 Speaker 2: I heard NFL running backs complaining about their plate Elon 1738 01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:22,320 Speaker 2: Musk would be going my long. But it's not that 1739 01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:28,840 Speaker 2: they're wrong. It's not that they're wrong, it's that there 1740 01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:33,200 Speaker 2: is a context here. Okay, I do understand that in 1741 01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:39,720 Speaker 2: the last five years that on the aggregate salaries have 1742 01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:44,439 Speaker 2: reduced somewhat. Okay, I don't like the word replaceable. I 1743 01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:47,760 Speaker 2: don't like the word devalued I would use interchangeable. And 1744 01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:50,040 Speaker 2: there are two simple reasons why this is happening to 1745 01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:54,160 Speaker 2: running backs. Very simple one. NFL the game has changed, 1746 01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:58,000 Speaker 2: athletes have evolved, The game has become basketball on turf. 1747 01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:00,880 Speaker 2: Put your athletes in space to make a play, spread 1748 01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:04,240 Speaker 2: the field when you're one on one battles. Why now 1749 01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:07,280 Speaker 2: such the quarterback becomes ultra important, even more so than 1750 01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:11,519 Speaker 2: even before the game is completely quarterback centered. You run 1751 01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:15,479 Speaker 2: the offense through your quarterback. Look at Pat Mahomes, I 1752 01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:17,800 Speaker 2: bet you didn't know there were two hundred and fifty 1753 01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:21,880 Speaker 2: players picked before Isaiah Pacheco in the seventh round running 1754 01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:24,799 Speaker 2: back out of Rutgers in the twenty twenty two draft. 1755 01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:28,599 Speaker 2: That didn't stop Isaiah Pachecko, a running back, from being 1756 01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:31,360 Speaker 2: the leading rusher in the Super Bowl, drafted in the 1757 01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:36,479 Speaker 2: seventh round. We have a simple supply and demand issue. 1758 01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:41,200 Speaker 2: There are simply more running backs than there are jobs. 1759 01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:44,880 Speaker 2: There's an ambundance of running backs. There's an imbalance to 1760 01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:47,880 Speaker 2: supply and demand that you don't have at other positions. 1761 01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:51,720 Speaker 2: So therefore, gams don't want to overpay running backs. The 1762 01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:55,280 Speaker 2: bottom line, if you lose an elite wide receiver, much 1763 01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:58,599 Speaker 2: more difficult to interchange and replace. Same with the quarterback, 1764 01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:02,559 Speaker 2: Same with an elite's event pass rusher. History shows us 1765 01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:06,120 Speaker 2: repeatedly time and time again that other running backs can 1766 01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:10,439 Speaker 2: step in and they're interchangeable. Now, think about kurd flood. 1767 01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:12,080 Speaker 2: When you think of this, do we really need to 1768 01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:15,920 Speaker 2: take up a collection plate for Saquon Barkley or Dalvin 1769 01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:19,000 Speaker 2: Cook or Ezekiel Elliott. Let's put this in perspective, and 1770 01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:21,080 Speaker 2: you know you don't count anybody's money, but I think 1771 01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:23,679 Speaker 2: I'm going to break that rule just this one time. Now, 1772 01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:27,000 Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley has been offered three years, thirteen million, year 1773 01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:31,200 Speaker 2: thirty nine million, or if he doesn't accept that by Monday, 1774 01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:34,080 Speaker 2: he'll be franchised at ten million a year. Let's say 1775 01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:37,920 Speaker 2: Barkley's franchised. So before this season starts, Barkley Hill have 1776 01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:41,439 Speaker 2: earned forty one million, one hundred and ninety four thousand dollars. 1777 01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:44,600 Speaker 2: Forty one million, one hundred ninety four thousand dollars. Is 1778 01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:48,360 Speaker 2: that as much as he wants? No, Does he feel disrespected? Probably? 1779 01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:52,400 Speaker 2: It's still forty one million dollars. Dalvin Cook, he's a 1780 01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:54,639 Speaker 2: man without a team right now, still has some gas 1781 01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:57,720 Speaker 2: in the tank. There's not a robust interest in him 1782 01:38:57,760 --> 01:39:01,519 Speaker 2: at this point. There probably will be later, maybe not robusts, 1783 01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:04,599 Speaker 2: but they'll be interested Dalvin Cook if he never plays 1784 01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:09,599 Speaker 2: another down in the NFL thirty nine million, one hundred 1785 01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:11,920 Speaker 2: and twenty five thousand dollars is what Dalvin Cook will 1786 01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:14,960 Speaker 2: have earned. Ezekiel Elliott currently a man without a team room, 1787 01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:17,320 Speaker 2: where as they'll end up back with Dallas seventy one 1788 01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:23,160 Speaker 2: million dollars. So between Barkley, Cook and Ezekiel oh nothing 1789 01:39:23,439 --> 01:39:26,600 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty two million dollars in contracts, and 1790 01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:30,479 Speaker 2: their careers aren't done. Only four running backs have been 1791 01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:33,080 Speaker 2: selected in the first round the past four drafts. There 1792 01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:35,000 Speaker 2: hasn't been a running back taken higher than twenty four 1793 01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:40,080 Speaker 2: since twenty eighteen, when the New York Giants took Saquon Barkley. Look, 1794 01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:46,320 Speaker 2: the game evolves, sports evolves, life evolves. You can say 1795 01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:50,000 Speaker 2: that running backs are devalued. I merely say that things 1796 01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:53,600 Speaker 2: have changed from the standpoint of they're now more interchangeable 1797 01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:58,120 Speaker 2: because in the National Football League one hundred yards long, 1798 01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:01,320 Speaker 2: fifty five yards wide. The bottom line is simply this. 1799 01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:05,200 Speaker 2: You put players in space on turf on an island 1800 01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:07,320 Speaker 2: to make a play. You spread the field. When you're 1801 01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:10,120 Speaker 2: one on one battles, you on athlete. The other team 1802 01:40:10,160 --> 01:40:12,400 Speaker 2: you have creative. The other team three yards in a 1803 01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:15,840 Speaker 2: cloud of dust. Is long gone. Now running backs are important. 1804 01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:17,760 Speaker 2: You want to move the chains. They got to be 1805 01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:19,240 Speaker 2: able to block, They got to be able to protect 1806 01:40:19,240 --> 01:40:21,599 Speaker 2: your quarterback, catch your ball in the backfield. But we're 1807 01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:25,280 Speaker 2: finding out next man up works with a running back 1808 01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:31,960 Speaker 2: position seemingly better than other positions. That is just simply reality. 1809 01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:35,519 Speaker 2: Complaining about it, You're gonna fall in my deaf ears. 1810 01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:39,519 Speaker 2: Chinese have a proverb, you can curse the darkness, or 1811 01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:42,960 Speaker 2: you can light a candle. Barkley's gonna earn forty one 1812 01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:45,320 Speaker 2: million in his career if you never play pass this year. 1813 01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:48,320 Speaker 2: And I already told you Dalvin Cook thirty nine million 1814 01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:51,519 Speaker 2: is Eekiel seventy one million? How sorry? Do you really 1815 01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:54,679 Speaker 2: want to feel for him? Coming up? What's the toughest 1816 01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:57,040 Speaker 2: thing to do in all the sports? You already know it, 1817 01:40:57,240 --> 01:41:00,200 Speaker 2: but I've got more evidence. But first, let's go back 1818 01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:02,040 Speaker 2: to our guy, Steve de Segard with the latest. 1819 01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:06,280 Speaker 8: Baseball's late ball game in Anaheim Saturday went to the 1820 01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:09,639 Speaker 8: Angels in ten innings in a comeback against Houston thirteen 1821 01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:12,880 Speaker 8: to twelve. Shoheo Tani hit his thirty third home run 1822 01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:14,760 Speaker 8: as part of a three run bottom of the ninth 1823 01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:17,920 Speaker 8: to tie. Detroit, held Seattle to three hits and beat 1824 01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:21,080 Speaker 8: the Mariners six nothing. Yankees held on six to three 1825 01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:24,479 Speaker 8: at Colorado and early three run homer from Juncarlo Stanton, 1826 01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:27,400 Speaker 8: Minnesota's first in the AL Central Game and a half 1827 01:41:27,439 --> 01:41:30,479 Speaker 8: over Cleveland. The Twins won ten to seven at Oakland 1828 01:41:30,479 --> 01:41:33,719 Speaker 8: at six straight losses for the A's Milwaukee's first place 1829 01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:36,160 Speaker 8: alone in first in the ed L Central game over 1830 01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:39,400 Speaker 8: the Reds. After shutting out Cincinnati again three nothing, the 1831 01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:43,200 Speaker 8: Reds offense went one for twenty eight with twelve strikeouts. 1832 01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:46,759 Speaker 8: Baltimore won at seventh straight game six ' five over Miami. 1833 01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:49,400 Speaker 8: White Sox held on for a win at Atlanta six 1834 01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:52,680 Speaker 8: to five. The lost to Spencer Strider. San Francisco won 1835 01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:55,559 Speaker 8: its fourth straight game three to one at Pittsburgh. The 1836 01:41:55,600 --> 01:41:57,880 Speaker 8: Dodgers won their sixth in a row five to one 1837 01:41:57,920 --> 01:41:59,920 Speaker 8: over the Mets. New York held to just three hit 1838 01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:02,240 Speaker 8: That game was tied one one going to the seventh. 1839 01:42:02,280 --> 01:42:05,320 Speaker 8: Mookie Batts of LA four for four, including his twenty 1840 01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:09,080 Speaker 8: seventh homer. Washington and Saint Louis split a doubleheader. Tampa 1841 01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:12,719 Speaker 8: Bay swept two at Kansas City. Philadelphia swept a twin bill. 1842 01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:16,360 Speaker 8: Against the Padres. Rory McElroy led the Scottish Open by 1843 01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:19,160 Speaker 8: one stroke to start the final round. Steph Curry leads 1844 01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:22,479 Speaker 8: the Celebrity Golf tournament in Lake Tahoe. The Wimbledon Men's 1845 01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:25,639 Speaker 8: Final begins at nine am Eastern Time. The Women's champion 1846 01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:30,240 Speaker 8: Saturday was unseated. Marquette von Drusiva. Mexico plays Sunday night 1847 01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:33,479 Speaker 8: in Soccer's Gold Cup final in La against Panama on 1848 01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:37,559 Speaker 8: Fox TV. The WNBA All Star Game MVP was Jewel 1849 01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:39,840 Speaker 8: Lloyd in Vegas. I'm Steve Desager. 1850 01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:45,519 Speaker 2: All right, thanks so much, Steve, appreciate it. So there 1851 01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:48,559 Speaker 2: are very few aspects in life where you can feel 1852 01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:52,320 Speaker 2: seven times out of ten and still be considered great 1853 01:42:53,160 --> 01:42:58,439 Speaker 2: at what you do. So let's see score thirty on 1854 01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:03,519 Speaker 2: your MCAT. You're not getting into medical school. Let's say 1855 01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:06,040 Speaker 2: you only win thirty percent of your bets. You're going 1856 01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:11,040 Speaker 2: to be losing money. What's the old joke if you finish. 1857 01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:15,280 Speaker 2: If you finished last in your class in medical school, 1858 01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:17,880 Speaker 2: they call you a doctor. You finished last in your 1859 01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:24,000 Speaker 2: class in betting school, they call you a bankrupt. But 1860 01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:26,559 Speaker 2: in baseball, if you get a hit thirty percent of 1861 01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:29,200 Speaker 2: the time, you might be headed to the Hall of Fame. 1862 01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:32,599 Speaker 2: And that's because there's not a dot in my mind. 1863 01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:35,080 Speaker 2: It is the most difficult thing to do in any sport. 1864 01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:38,320 Speaker 2: Take Ted Williams, one of the greatest hitters to ever 1865 01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:40,640 Speaker 2: play Major League baseball. Nineteen year career played for the 1866 01:43:40,640 --> 01:43:43,919 Speaker 2: Boston Red Sox. Had a three forty four batting average. 1867 01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:47,080 Speaker 2: That's about a thirty four percent success rate, todd for 1868 01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:50,120 Speaker 2: seventh best in the sports history. But even he famously 1869 01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:52,519 Speaker 2: said that hitting a baseball is the hardest thing to 1870 01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:55,120 Speaker 2: do in sports. So why is that the case? Yes, 1871 01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:59,280 Speaker 2: hitting a round object with another round object traveling ninety 1872 01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:02,559 Speaker 2: miles an hour is very difficult. Yes, I'm qualified to 1873 01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:05,000 Speaker 2: speak on this. Played baseball at a fairly high level. 1874 01:44:06,320 --> 01:44:09,840 Speaker 2: For one, the physics they're extreme. The velocity of the 1875 01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:13,559 Speaker 2: average Major league fastball is probably ninety five miles an hour. Now, 1876 01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:16,000 Speaker 2: when that ball whizzes in that speed and you're less 1877 01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:19,080 Speaker 2: than sixty feet away, about sixty feet six inches, the 1878 01:44:19,160 --> 01:44:23,280 Speaker 2: batter has one hundred and fifty milliseconds to decide whether 1879 01:44:23,320 --> 01:44:26,679 Speaker 2: you want to swing. That's a blink of an eye. 1880 01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:29,400 Speaker 2: And even though a hitter has one hundred and fifty 1881 01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:33,519 Speaker 2: milliseconds where they want to swing. The ball is only 1882 01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:36,800 Speaker 2: in the hitting zone where it reaches your bat less 1883 01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:40,240 Speaker 2: than ten milliseconds. And this comes to us from a 1884 01:44:40,280 --> 01:44:45,360 Speaker 2: physics professor who studied this at cal And you know 1885 01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:49,080 Speaker 2: this gentleman. Actually his name is David Kagan, and he's 1886 01:44:49,680 --> 01:44:53,040 Speaker 2: been called the Einstein of the National Pasttime Basically, the 1887 01:44:53,080 --> 01:44:54,880 Speaker 2: amount of time the ball's in a spot where the 1888 01:44:54,880 --> 01:44:57,720 Speaker 2: battle can make contact and keep it in fair territory 1889 01:44:58,439 --> 01:45:01,000 Speaker 2: is like a photo finish at the Kentucky Derby, but 1890 01:45:01,040 --> 01:45:04,720 Speaker 2: even even closer. Plus hitting around baseball with a round 1891 01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:08,360 Speaker 2: bat squarely. That adds sort of an additional a degree 1892 01:45:08,360 --> 01:45:11,320 Speaker 2: of difficulty to this puzzle, which is very complicated. You 1893 01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:14,439 Speaker 2: have two curvy objects. They have to connect in just 1894 01:45:14,520 --> 01:45:17,280 Speaker 2: the right way. It's very difficult. If you're just off 1895 01:45:17,320 --> 01:45:20,200 Speaker 2: by a smidge, it's a file ball or a miss 1896 01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:23,800 Speaker 2: or an out. Instead of the ball landing over the 1897 01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:26,559 Speaker 2: wall or dropping in for it, imagine the bat as 1898 01:45:26,600 --> 01:45:29,799 Speaker 2: a target. Now, if the bat hits the ball exactly 1899 01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:35,080 Speaker 2: the correct spot, well, it's called a bullseye, and that 1900 01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:39,759 Speaker 2: bullseye is one fifth of an echine diameter. If that happens, 1901 01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:42,880 Speaker 2: it might be a home run. But if the ball 1902 01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:47,400 Speaker 2: makes contact with that ring just outside the bullseye, basically 1903 01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:49,719 Speaker 2: a ground ball back to the pitcher. In other words, 1904 01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:52,799 Speaker 2: the margin for error where a batter can make contact 1905 01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:54,800 Speaker 2: with the ball and hope to get a hit is 1906 01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:57,200 Speaker 2: half the width of your SIM card and your old iPhone. 1907 01:45:57,920 --> 01:46:01,000 Speaker 2: Remember what sim cards were. That's your margin for error. 1908 01:46:02,240 --> 01:46:06,840 Speaker 2: So if you peek inside a hitter's brain, you can 1909 01:46:06,920 --> 01:46:10,839 Speaker 2: understand a little bit why this becomes so difficult. Because 1910 01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:16,080 Speaker 2: they've actually studied the neural processes involved with rapid decision 1911 01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:21,439 Speaker 2: making using exercises like hitting a baseball, and they compare 1912 01:46:21,479 --> 01:46:24,320 Speaker 2: it to hitting a bullet with another bullet. You're hitting 1913 01:46:24,360 --> 01:46:28,120 Speaker 2: something that's moving super fast with something else that's moving 1914 01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:32,240 Speaker 2: super fast. Now, a gentleman named Tom Kaminski studied this 1915 01:46:32,439 --> 01:46:35,200 Speaker 2: University of Delaware. He compares trying to hit a baseball 1916 01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:37,360 Speaker 2: like trying to catch a peanut in your mouth from 1917 01:46:37,360 --> 01:46:41,040 Speaker 2: someone to one hundred feet away, although even then it's 1918 01:46:41,120 --> 01:46:43,680 Speaker 2: much easier to get in good possession to catch the 1919 01:46:43,680 --> 01:46:48,000 Speaker 2: peanut because you have time. Hitting a baseball is a 1920 01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:51,360 Speaker 2: marvel if you have to stop and think about it. Now. 1921 01:46:51,400 --> 01:46:54,360 Speaker 2: What's more, not only does it take incredible hand eye 1922 01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:59,080 Speaker 2: coordination of baseball players, but you really have to understand 1923 01:46:59,120 --> 01:47:01,599 Speaker 2: that typically they hand that coordination to baseball players transfers 1924 01:47:01,680 --> 01:47:06,160 Speaker 2: very well to other sports, right athletes. Well, they might 1925 01:47:06,200 --> 01:47:08,920 Speaker 2: look really competent on the soccer field of the basketball court, 1926 01:47:09,439 --> 01:47:10,840 Speaker 2: but all of a sudden, put a bat in their 1927 01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:14,040 Speaker 2: hand and they don't look as athletics. Sometimes that's just 1928 01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:19,559 Speaker 2: the fact. It's because successful hitters they're exceptional in two areas. First, 1929 01:47:19,640 --> 01:47:22,559 Speaker 2: hitting a baseball is not about how fast a batter 1930 01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:25,240 Speaker 2: can swing, but rather how they can stop themselves from 1931 01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:28,400 Speaker 2: swinging at pitches they don't want to swing at. The 1932 01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:30,679 Speaker 2: pitches are not likely to be able to do anything 1933 01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:34,240 Speaker 2: with or get a hit with, So you're also trying 1934 01:47:34,240 --> 01:47:38,000 Speaker 2: to prevent strikeouts while creating opportunities to get a hit. 1935 01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:41,040 Speaker 2: So you've got to determine one hundred and fifty milliseconds 1936 01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:44,880 Speaker 2: whether you want to swing or not swing. Either way, 1937 01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:49,360 Speaker 2: it's a fast decision, and if you're wrong, you're wrong. 1938 01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:52,000 Speaker 2: There's not much margin of error. The second important area 1939 01:47:52,080 --> 01:47:57,559 Speaker 2: is a hitter's ability to identify those pitches. So typical 1940 01:47:57,560 --> 01:48:00,800 Speaker 2: person in the stands they're not really able to tell 1941 01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:04,120 Speaker 2: the difference between a fastball and a curveball. They can't. 1942 01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:09,599 Speaker 2: It's like if you were showed the faces of two 1943 01:48:09,640 --> 01:48:12,720 Speaker 2: different strangers in one hundred and fifty milliseconds and you 1944 01:48:12,720 --> 01:48:15,479 Speaker 2: had to pick out which who was who. That's how 1945 01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:18,280 Speaker 2: much time you have to discern whether you're seeing a 1946 01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:20,960 Speaker 2: curveball or a fastball based on the spin of the 1947 01:48:20,960 --> 01:48:27,640 Speaker 2: ball right, and so distinguishing between these decisions you have 1948 01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:31,000 Speaker 2: to make so quickly at such a high rate of speed. 1949 01:48:31,840 --> 01:48:36,160 Speaker 2: Even if you have a highly athletically specialized brain plenty 1950 01:48:36,200 --> 01:48:39,880 Speaker 2: of intense training, well you're going to fail seven times 1951 01:48:39,880 --> 01:48:45,040 Speaker 2: out of ten minimum. Take Michael Jordan, he went and 1952 01:48:45,080 --> 01:48:47,000 Speaker 2: played minor league baseball for a couple of years. He 1953 01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:49,840 Speaker 2: actually at two h two in double A, which I'm 1954 01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:52,840 Speaker 2: marveled by that because I know how talented double A 1955 01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:57,719 Speaker 2: baseball players are. It's basically they are major league prospects 1956 01:48:57,840 --> 01:48:59,240 Speaker 2: or just not in the major leagues. Not all of 1957 01:48:59,280 --> 01:49:00,600 Speaker 2: them are going to get there. So the fact that 1958 01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:03,160 Speaker 2: Jordan did that when we failed eighty percent of the time. 1959 01:49:03,479 --> 01:49:07,960 Speaker 2: And Jordan has athleticism that's unparalleled, he has competitiveness that's 1960 01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:11,840 Speaker 2: on parallel, and he was at an elite hitter. He 1961 01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:13,560 Speaker 2: was hit two of two. If his name would have 1962 01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:16,719 Speaker 2: been Eddie Gazinski, he probably would have been released much sooner. 1963 01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:21,360 Speaker 2: But he was Michael Jordan. He tried right. Jordan checked 1964 01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:23,920 Speaker 2: every box. But when hitting a baseball, I will tell 1965 01:49:23,960 --> 01:49:26,080 Speaker 2: you the long and the short of it is, you 1966 01:49:26,160 --> 01:49:27,720 Speaker 2: got to keep your head in the tunnel. You got 1967 01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:30,320 Speaker 2: to see the ball, and it's not so easy. There 1968 01:49:30,320 --> 01:49:34,120 Speaker 2: are very few people that can hit a baseball when 1969 01:49:34,160 --> 01:49:36,800 Speaker 2: it's traveling ninety miles an hour, and then you put 1970 01:49:36,800 --> 01:49:39,839 Speaker 2: a wrinkle on it, you change location, you change speeds, 1971 01:49:40,160 --> 01:49:42,559 Speaker 2: it becomes even more daunting. So yeah, I know this 1972 01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:47,040 Speaker 2: is sort of like old territory. But once again, after 1973 01:49:47,120 --> 01:49:50,599 Speaker 2: many studies have done, it's all good. Gris for the mill. 1974 01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:54,360 Speaker 2: The toughest thing to do in all the sports is yes, 1975 01:49:54,960 --> 01:50:01,400 Speaker 2: hitting a baseball. Coming up, couple of in the NFL 1976 01:50:01,520 --> 01:50:05,320 Speaker 2: to update you on, including the fact that Roger Goodell 1977 01:50:05,439 --> 01:50:09,000 Speaker 2: and one of his stated goals may be getting closer. 1978 01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:12,479 Speaker 2: I'll explain. I'm Bernie fraddlew comes to your life from 1979 01:50:12,479 --> 01:50:15,040 Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio TIREC dot Com studios. 1980 01:50:15,240 --> 01:50:17,000 Speaker 2: Keep it locked right here. You're listening to the Bernie 1981 01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:20,160 Speaker 2: Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right back on 1982 01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:23,920 Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio Comedy live from 1983 01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:27,240 Speaker 2: the Tirak dot com studios here in Las Vegas, fourteen 1984 01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:30,080 Speaker 2: minutes away from what kind of brand new fool you 1985 01:50:30,479 --> 01:50:35,680 Speaker 2: followed by followed by what my name? By the way, 1986 01:50:35,720 --> 01:50:37,519 Speaker 2: Tonight's show brought to you by Discover. At the end 1987 01:50:37,520 --> 01:50:41,120 Speaker 2: of your first year, Discover credit cards automatically double all 1988 01:50:41,160 --> 01:50:43,799 Speaker 2: the cash back you've earned. That's right, everything you've earned doubled. 1989 01:50:44,120 --> 01:50:47,720 Speaker 2: Seriously see terms. Check it out for yourself at Discover 1990 01:50:48,160 --> 01:50:54,160 Speaker 2: dot com slash match. Some NFL notes. First of all, 1991 01:50:54,280 --> 01:50:58,360 Speaker 2: Roger Goodell had a stated goal many years ago that 1992 01:50:58,439 --> 01:51:02,200 Speaker 2: he wants to grow the league into an entity that 1993 01:51:02,280 --> 01:51:07,880 Speaker 2: generates twenty five billion dollars a year in revenue. And 1994 01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:10,800 Speaker 2: the NFL is actually marching toward that. Believe it or not, 1995 01:51:11,320 --> 01:51:13,840 Speaker 2: They're getting closer to that long stated goal of twenty 1996 01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:17,559 Speaker 2: five billion annual revenue. Why well, Amazon just checked in 1997 01:51:17,600 --> 01:51:19,840 Speaker 2: with a new one point two billion dollar media rights 1998 01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:23,639 Speaker 2: deal for Thursday Night Football. That take that took effect 1999 01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:26,759 Speaker 2: excuse me, last season, and that brought in the league 2000 01:51:26,760 --> 01:51:31,040 Speaker 2: brought in almost twelve billion in national revenue. According to Forbes, 2001 01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:34,280 Speaker 2: which is an increase of seven percent over the year 2002 01:51:34,320 --> 01:51:36,719 Speaker 2: before of an eleven point one billion, So they're almost 2003 01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:41,080 Speaker 2: halfway home now with teams local earnings added in. This 2004 01:51:41,240 --> 01:51:45,479 Speaker 2: is local earnings, the NFL in total might be closer 2005 01:51:45,479 --> 01:51:49,599 Speaker 2: to twenty billion in total revenue heading into twenty twenty three, 2006 01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:53,799 Speaker 2: so you district revenue evenly among the team's thirty two teams. 2007 01:51:54,280 --> 01:51:56,679 Speaker 2: And every club received three hundred and seventy two million 2008 01:51:56,720 --> 01:52:01,600 Speaker 2: from the NFL national cofferslast year, and the majority of 2009 01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:03,479 Speaker 2: that payment two hundred and forty nine million of it 2010 01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:06,479 Speaker 2: when it comes from media rights deals that total more 2011 01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:10,920 Speaker 2: than ten billion annually, and this pot is only going 2012 01:52:11,360 --> 01:52:16,840 Speaker 2: to grow this coming season. YouTube is taking over the 2013 01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:21,160 Speaker 2: rights to the NFL Sunday ticket and they have paid 2014 01:52:21,160 --> 01:52:26,479 Speaker 2: the NFL two billion dollars annually for that right. Compared 2015 01:52:26,520 --> 01:52:29,559 Speaker 2: to the what Direct TV was paying. They were paying 2016 01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:33,200 Speaker 2: one point five billion. There's another half half a billion 2017 01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:36,360 Speaker 2: right there, another five hundred million that YouTube is paying. 2018 01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:38,479 Speaker 2: And I want to look to possibly sign up for 2019 01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:40,800 Speaker 2: it what it costs, and you know it's not cheap. 2020 01:52:41,520 --> 01:52:44,559 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it. It's not cheap, but YouTube knew 2021 01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:47,200 Speaker 2: darn well. You get used to this seeing every game 2022 01:52:47,240 --> 01:52:48,880 Speaker 2: in other cities, even the ones you don't live in. 2023 01:52:49,240 --> 01:52:51,280 Speaker 2: And they're paying the NFL two billion because I know 2024 01:52:51,320 --> 01:52:54,880 Speaker 2: they'll probably make money off that, off the subscriptions soever 2025 01:52:54,920 --> 01:52:58,080 Speaker 2: way you turn around. The NFL's founding new ways to 2026 01:52:58,160 --> 01:53:01,559 Speaker 2: make money. Almost hit print money. But someone mishear that 2027 01:53:01,800 --> 01:53:05,960 Speaker 2: and selectively listen, and I don't want that. So but 2028 01:53:06,160 --> 01:53:09,439 Speaker 2: despite the huge media rights the NFL sees every year, 2029 01:53:10,640 --> 01:53:15,720 Speaker 2: the league actually has the contractual opportunity to opt out 2030 01:53:15,800 --> 01:53:18,680 Speaker 2: of some of these deals, and should they choose to 2031 01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:21,960 Speaker 2: do so, they would only do so because they're getting 2032 01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:24,879 Speaker 2: a better offer from somebody else. How you like them apples, 2033 01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:28,720 Speaker 2: So the current media goes by the way, they're also backloaded. 2034 01:53:28,760 --> 01:53:33,000 Speaker 2: So then the annual payments will they increase well beyond 2035 01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:37,080 Speaker 2: the average annual value. Basically the league, they don't opt out, 2036 01:53:37,120 --> 01:53:39,240 Speaker 2: they're still going to see it increase in earnings anyway 2037 01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:43,360 Speaker 2: is slice it. The NFL continues to be a haven 2038 01:53:43,760 --> 01:53:46,799 Speaker 2: for money, and you know what money talks in the NFL. 2039 01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:51,200 Speaker 2: What I checked into this, believe we talked about the 2040 01:53:51,200 --> 01:53:55,240 Speaker 2: Denver Broncos earlier when I previewed the AFC West and 2041 01:53:55,760 --> 01:53:59,280 Speaker 2: Denver last year in the offseason. What we're in the 2042 01:53:59,280 --> 01:54:02,200 Speaker 2: off season, we're not anymore. They showed out the most 2043 01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:07,360 Speaker 2: cabbage in the NFL offseason. Here's why that's significant. The 2044 01:54:07,439 --> 01:54:11,360 Speaker 2: last six teams that have spent the most in the offseason, 2045 01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:16,320 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty two Jacksonville Jags, the twenty one Pats, 2046 01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:19,639 Speaker 2: the twenty Dolphins, the nineteen Jets, and the eighteen Bears. 2047 01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:25,080 Speaker 2: They've turned that win improvement by an average of five 2048 01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:31,080 Speaker 2: point three wins more per season. Now Denver, Denver was 2049 01:54:31,120 --> 01:54:34,160 Speaker 2: six and eleven last year, or were they five and 2050 01:54:34,520 --> 01:54:37,080 Speaker 2: five and twelve? I think maybe five and twelve. So 2051 01:54:37,120 --> 01:54:38,880 Speaker 2: does that mean they can jump to ten wins? Well, 2052 01:54:38,920 --> 01:54:41,920 Speaker 2: according to this model, they spent the most money and 2053 01:54:41,960 --> 01:54:43,520 Speaker 2: that would merely fall in line. And you saw what 2054 01:54:43,600 --> 01:54:46,280 Speaker 2: Jacksonville did last year, worse to first. They went from 2055 01:54:46,280 --> 01:54:50,440 Speaker 2: like three to fourteen to what eleven and six whatever? 2056 01:54:50,480 --> 01:54:55,600 Speaker 2: They were dramatic improvement. So that bodes well. If you 2057 01:54:55,760 --> 01:54:59,040 Speaker 2: are a Denver Bronco fan, you spend the most cabbage, 2058 01:54:59,080 --> 01:55:02,120 Speaker 2: the most cheese, you get the most returned. The last 2059 01:55:02,120 --> 01:55:05,480 Speaker 2: six teams that have done that have increased their win 2060 01:55:05,600 --> 01:55:09,600 Speaker 2: total by as much as five per season. The question 2061 01:55:09,720 --> 01:55:13,400 Speaker 2: becomes whether or not Sean Payton, who's already won one 2062 01:55:13,480 --> 01:55:16,640 Speaker 2: Super Bowl with the Saints, can follow that same path. 2063 01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:20,880 Speaker 2: The question comes also asked to whether or not Russell 2064 01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:24,200 Speaker 2: Wilson and his life and his life as a football player, 2065 01:55:24,760 --> 01:55:27,480 Speaker 2: and all the first and little coaches that clogged his 2066 01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:32,280 Speaker 2: arteries up last year with confusion, They're all gone, simplify 2067 01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:36,080 Speaker 2: your life. Sean Payton's running the show, and it seems 2068 01:55:36,120 --> 01:55:41,200 Speaker 2: to me that regardless of who is in charge, Denver 2069 01:55:41,240 --> 01:55:42,960 Speaker 2: can't do much worse than they did last year with 2070 01:55:43,040 --> 01:55:46,800 Speaker 2: Nathaniel Hackett. So along in the short of it is 2071 01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:49,400 Speaker 2: Denver fans I think have a reason to be optimist. 2072 01:55:49,440 --> 01:55:52,120 Speaker 2: I think Russell Wilson will be better. I think Sean 2073 01:55:52,200 --> 01:55:56,280 Speaker 2: Payton will be certainly a tremendous influence. We had Chad 2074 01:55:56,320 --> 01:55:58,680 Speaker 2: Anders on my show a couple of times, one to 2075 01:55:58,760 --> 01:56:01,840 Speaker 2: four point three to fan in deni'ver very knowledgeable guy. 2076 01:56:01,960 --> 01:56:05,400 Speaker 2: He says, yeah, you can see the culture in Bronco 2077 01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:09,800 Speaker 2: Land has changed quite a bit. Finally, one final thing. 2078 01:56:10,240 --> 01:56:13,680 Speaker 2: I don't know who the Panthers, Broncos, New York Giants 2079 01:56:13,720 --> 01:56:17,560 Speaker 2: and Titans pissed off this year, but those four teams, 2080 01:56:18,160 --> 01:56:20,800 Speaker 2: not only do they not have any scheduled primetime games, 2081 01:56:21,560 --> 01:56:24,480 Speaker 2: they all have to play three straight road games. The 2082 01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:26,960 Speaker 2: Giants were a playoff team last year, and they're in 2083 01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:30,480 Speaker 2: a major metropolitan area. So you're leaving out a major 2084 01:56:30,520 --> 01:56:32,960 Speaker 2: market team out of the national picture, a team that 2085 01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:35,520 Speaker 2: not only made the playoffs, went to the Minnesota and 2086 01:56:35,680 --> 01:56:39,160 Speaker 2: won a playoff game. And I don't know what the 2087 01:56:39,160 --> 01:56:43,760 Speaker 2: schedule maker was thinking. So the Panthers, Broncos, Giants, and 2088 01:56:43,800 --> 01:56:46,680 Speaker 2: Titans don't have a single primetime game this year, and 2089 01:56:46,800 --> 01:56:49,880 Speaker 2: all of them have to play three straight road games 2090 01:56:50,160 --> 01:56:53,120 Speaker 2: at some point in their schedule. What's the significance of 2091 01:56:53,160 --> 01:56:57,840 Speaker 2: that in the NFL? When you go back thirty years, 2092 01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:01,920 Speaker 2: teams that have to play three three straight road games. 2093 01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:08,360 Speaker 2: When you get to that third straight road game, they're 2094 01:57:08,400 --> 01:57:11,960 Speaker 2: twenty three and forty four straight up, twenty one and 2095 01:57:12,040 --> 01:57:15,720 Speaker 2: forty five against the spread. That means they're failing seventy 2096 01:57:15,920 --> 01:57:18,520 Speaker 2: percent of the time. It's tough enough to play in 2097 01:57:18,560 --> 01:57:22,320 Speaker 2: the road once in the NFL, much less go back, 2098 01:57:22,680 --> 01:57:24,680 Speaker 2: go back on the road a second week and then 2099 01:57:24,720 --> 01:57:27,080 Speaker 2: play a third straight road game. Will four teams have 2100 01:57:27,160 --> 01:57:29,720 Speaker 2: to do that this year? The Broncos. Who I just 2101 01:57:29,760 --> 01:57:33,240 Speaker 2: mentioned the Giants, Titans, and Panthers and it hasn't boded 2102 01:57:33,280 --> 01:57:35,920 Speaker 2: well in a past. Plus none of those teams get 2103 01:57:35,960 --> 01:57:39,760 Speaker 2: primetime games. Not sure why the schedule maker is angry 2104 01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:42,280 Speaker 2: with them. I see that tongue in cheek, but they 2105 01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:47,240 Speaker 2: sure didn't do those teams any favors. NFL is getting closer. 2106 01:57:47,360 --> 01:57:50,960 Speaker 2: More talking points coming up. 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Well, you 2121 01:58:33,640 --> 01:58:38,000 Speaker 2: know it's at this time every week that we take 2122 01:58:38,040 --> 01:58:42,160 Speaker 2: a little look around our great land of ours, and 2123 01:58:42,200 --> 01:58:46,560 Speaker 2: frankly around the globe, and we seem to find out 2124 01:58:46,720 --> 01:58:50,720 Speaker 2: about events that take place, behaviors that people engage in. 2125 01:58:51,400 --> 01:58:56,040 Speaker 2: And sometimes they're innocuous and just silly and stupid, harmless. 2126 01:58:56,120 --> 01:58:58,560 Speaker 2: Other times they are a little bit more serious. And 2127 01:58:58,640 --> 01:59:02,280 Speaker 2: of course there are also those actions had people engage 2128 01:59:02,320 --> 01:59:07,000 Speaker 2: in where you know, they go on vacation, their brain 2129 01:59:07,040 --> 01:59:09,240 Speaker 2: goes on vacation, and they put their button charge and 2130 01:59:09,280 --> 01:59:12,480 Speaker 2: they get themselves in trouble and sometimes they end up 2131 01:59:12,480 --> 01:59:16,920 Speaker 2: in jail. But anyway you slice it, anyway, you characterize it, 2132 01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:21,760 Speaker 2: anyway you want to label it, these behaviors in every 2133 01:59:21,800 --> 01:59:25,520 Speaker 2: instance clauses to scratch our head and ask ourselves, what 2134 01:59:25,600 --> 01:59:26,920 Speaker 2: kind of brand new fool are you? 2135 01:59:33,120 --> 01:59:33,200 Speaker 9: So? 2136 01:59:33,680 --> 01:59:35,680 Speaker 1: What kind of brand new fool are you? 2137 01:59:36,080 --> 01:59:38,800 Speaker 2: Oh boy, well, this week we take you to the 2138 01:59:38,920 --> 01:59:43,080 Speaker 2: city Iowa, meet mister Bowman. Mister Bowman, well, I guess 2139 01:59:43,120 --> 01:59:49,160 Speaker 2: it's lawnmar stopped working, so he went and asked his 2140 01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:54,320 Speaker 2: neighbor not to borrow their lawnmower, but if their neighbor 2141 01:59:55,040 --> 01:59:58,880 Speaker 2: would mow his lawn. I'm not sure what the neighbor 2142 01:59:58,960 --> 02:00:01,040 Speaker 2: said or what was the greed to her not agreed to. 2143 02:00:02,040 --> 02:00:06,040 Speaker 2: But a couple of days later, when mister Bowman realized 2144 02:00:06,080 --> 02:00:10,080 Speaker 2: his lawn hadn't been mowed yet, well, the fifty three 2145 02:00:10,160 --> 02:00:13,240 Speaker 2: year old decided he would take matters into his own hands. 2146 02:00:14,000 --> 02:00:16,600 Speaker 2: He went next door and said, when are you gonna 2147 02:00:16,640 --> 02:00:21,680 Speaker 2: mow my lawn. I don't know what happened then, but 2148 02:00:21,800 --> 02:00:25,280 Speaker 2: I do know what happened next. The lawn wasn't mowed, 2149 02:00:25,800 --> 02:00:29,920 Speaker 2: and so mister Bowman did what any knucklehead would do 2150 02:00:30,080 --> 02:00:33,920 Speaker 2: in a situation like that, He set his neighbor's house 2151 02:00:34,000 --> 02:00:37,920 Speaker 2: on fire because they didn't mow his lawn. According to 2152 02:00:38,040 --> 02:00:41,200 Speaker 2: court documents, on a recent Sunday, just before six pm, 2153 02:00:41,400 --> 02:00:44,080 Speaker 2: the SIUs City Police well they received a report of 2154 02:00:44,080 --> 02:00:47,560 Speaker 2: a fire on Eighth Street. The corner of the home 2155 02:00:47,680 --> 02:00:51,440 Speaker 2: was burned, cost about three thousand dollars in damages, and 2156 02:00:51,520 --> 02:00:55,040 Speaker 2: there was actually a fire. Investigation revealed this obviously to 2157 02:00:55,040 --> 02:00:58,640 Speaker 2: be arson. Mister Bowman used sticks and plywood propped up 2158 02:00:58,640 --> 02:01:01,360 Speaker 2: against the house, and even he used to fuel accelerant. 2159 02:01:02,400 --> 02:01:04,600 Speaker 2: The victims were in the house at the time of 2160 02:01:04,640 --> 02:01:07,560 Speaker 2: the fire. A neighbor noticed the fire and banged on 2161 02:01:07,600 --> 02:01:10,600 Speaker 2: their door. Somehow they got the fire to put out 2162 02:01:10,720 --> 02:01:14,240 Speaker 2: be put out. Fortunately, to the best of my knowledge, 2163 02:01:14,520 --> 02:01:19,360 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody was hurt. Mister Boone was upset. 2164 02:01:19,560 --> 02:01:22,320 Speaker 2: Court documents revealed he lives next door to the victim. 2165 02:01:22,400 --> 02:01:25,000 Speaker 2: He was upset he had he asked the victims to 2166 02:01:25,040 --> 02:01:29,920 Speaker 2: mold their long the day before and they hadn't mowed. Well. Fortunately, 2167 02:01:30,600 --> 02:01:35,360 Speaker 2: mister Bowman admitted to making a mistake and perhaps the 2168 02:01:35,400 --> 02:01:38,560 Speaker 2: craziest thing about this whole darn deal. And by the way, 2169 02:01:39,000 --> 02:01:41,280 Speaker 2: he was held in the Woodbury County Jail on twenty 2170 02:01:41,320 --> 02:01:46,160 Speaker 2: thousand dollars bond. He used gasoline from the lawnmower that 2171 02:01:46,400 --> 02:01:49,200 Speaker 2: wasn't working to start the fire. All I gotta say, is, 2172 02:01:49,200 --> 02:01:52,120 Speaker 2: mister Bowman, what kind of brand new fool of you? 2173 02:01:52,880 --> 02:01:56,400 Speaker 2: All Right, mister Sweeke, you've got some good stories. You've 2174 02:01:56,400 --> 02:01:58,280 Speaker 2: played this game before, you're up. 2175 02:01:58,600 --> 02:02:01,920 Speaker 10: All right, Bernie, Well, we're gonna take a little trip 2176 02:02:02,000 --> 02:02:06,240 Speaker 10: down to Japan for this one where a unknown named 2177 02:02:06,440 --> 02:02:11,880 Speaker 10: man spent about what was it about twelve grand to 2178 02:02:12,080 --> 02:02:16,320 Speaker 10: live out his lifelong dream? Now, Bernie, but you're wondering, 2179 02:02:16,400 --> 02:02:18,440 Speaker 10: what is this man's lifelong dream that he gets to 2180 02:02:18,440 --> 02:02:22,160 Speaker 10: live out for twelve grand? Well, he gets to live 2181 02:02:22,800 --> 02:02:25,520 Speaker 10: his life out for one day to become a human 2182 02:02:25,640 --> 02:02:27,040 Speaker 10: sized dog. 2183 02:02:27,760 --> 02:02:28,280 Speaker 7: And by. 2184 02:02:29,880 --> 02:02:33,840 Speaker 10: And by that, the man literally twelve grand for this, 2185 02:02:34,040 --> 02:02:38,320 Speaker 10: got to do a light a human sized a costume. 2186 02:02:38,800 --> 02:02:42,160 Speaker 10: It's it's it's of a colleague, you know, like Laddie Lassie, 2187 02:02:42,240 --> 02:02:45,600 Speaker 10: all that good stuff. He did a costume, went full 2188 02:02:45,680 --> 02:02:51,280 Speaker 10: garb and went quadrupedal on all fours with a like 2189 02:02:51,280 --> 02:02:52,560 Speaker 10: we want to be like I want to be taken 2190 02:02:52,600 --> 02:02:54,040 Speaker 10: for a walk. He got to live his life as 2191 02:02:54,040 --> 02:02:57,360 Speaker 10: a dog for one day in a costume, go go 2192 02:02:57,480 --> 02:03:00,560 Speaker 10: on walks with a leash around his neck by someone 2193 02:03:00,600 --> 02:03:03,240 Speaker 10: walking him, and you know, to put the icing on 2194 02:03:03,280 --> 02:03:06,920 Speaker 10: the cake. He even was kenneled in a crate for 2195 02:03:07,040 --> 02:03:11,120 Speaker 10: the night just to get the whole effect. So all 2196 02:03:11,160 --> 02:03:13,520 Speaker 10: that for twelve grand, All that for twelve grand to 2197 02:03:13,560 --> 02:03:15,520 Speaker 10: live his life. And he wanted to get the full 2198 02:03:15,640 --> 02:03:21,080 Speaker 10: treatment on like that. And he wentknown unnamed because he 2199 02:03:21,120 --> 02:03:23,960 Speaker 10: didn't want his friends to know his him, because he 2200 02:03:24,080 --> 02:03:26,200 Speaker 10: thought they might catch on and feel like they was 2201 02:03:26,240 --> 02:03:27,920 Speaker 10: a little on the weird side. 2202 02:03:28,160 --> 02:03:30,919 Speaker 7: So gee, you think indeed? 2203 02:03:31,080 --> 02:03:31,240 Speaker 10: Right? 2204 02:03:31,720 --> 02:03:35,120 Speaker 7: So unknown man in Japan who dressed as a dog. 2205 02:03:35,400 --> 02:03:37,440 Speaker 10: By the way, if you look at the costume it's 2206 02:03:37,480 --> 02:03:38,720 Speaker 10: a little on the creepy side. 2207 02:03:38,760 --> 02:03:40,920 Speaker 7: But unknown man in Japan, what kind of brand new 2208 02:03:41,000 --> 02:03:41,600 Speaker 7: fool are you? 2209 02:03:41,880 --> 02:03:42,080 Speaker 4: Sir? 2210 02:03:43,120 --> 02:03:44,440 Speaker 2: You know, there were a couple of jokes that I 2211 02:03:44,440 --> 02:03:47,640 Speaker 2: could insert here, but I think I'm just simply simply 2212 02:03:47,680 --> 02:03:52,600 Speaker 2: going to pass and once again fairly innocuous versus crazy. 2213 02:03:53,160 --> 02:03:56,280 Speaker 2: And I guess I should say allegedly set the neighbor's 2214 02:03:56,320 --> 02:03:58,840 Speaker 2: house on fire because he didn't mold the lawn CAUs, 2215 02:03:58,920 --> 02:04:02,640 Speaker 2: you know, just in case. But these are the kinds 2216 02:04:02,640 --> 02:04:06,520 Speaker 2: of behaviors people engage in every week. So of course 2217 02:04:07,480 --> 02:04:12,800 Speaker 2: that little bit allows us to segue into our second 2218 02:04:12,880 --> 02:04:15,520 Speaker 2: favorite bit of the week, which we lovingly refer to 2219 02:04:15,600 --> 02:04:20,920 Speaker 2: as what my Name? And Mark Ramsey will be joining 2220 02:04:21,000 --> 02:04:24,840 Speaker 2: us tonight on the game all right. Recently the College 2221 02:04:24,920 --> 02:04:31,200 Speaker 2: World Series in baseball was played, and a pitcher for LSU, well, 2222 02:04:31,920 --> 02:04:36,000 Speaker 2: my fastball as a pitcher for LSU in the World Series. 2223 02:04:36,240 --> 02:04:39,120 Speaker 2: College World Series was clocked at one hundred miles an 2224 02:04:39,160 --> 02:04:43,840 Speaker 2: hour forty six times. Patrick sweek at what my Name? 2225 02:04:46,320 --> 02:04:50,120 Speaker 10: I'm gonna go, who is Clayton Kershaw? 2226 02:04:50,960 --> 02:04:54,760 Speaker 2: Not Clayton Kershaw? Pretty sure Kershaw's not in college, but 2227 02:04:55,320 --> 02:04:58,280 Speaker 2: I will appreciate the effort hald I pitched for LSU 2228 02:04:58,320 --> 02:05:01,720 Speaker 2: in the College Baseball World Series. My fastball was clocked 2229 02:05:01,720 --> 02:05:06,160 Speaker 2: at one hundred miles per hour forty six times. Mark Ramsey, 2230 02:05:06,160 --> 02:05:06,760 Speaker 2: what my name? 2231 02:05:07,760 --> 02:05:10,160 Speaker 6: I'm just gonna throw out a name, Jeff Bridges. 2232 02:05:10,520 --> 02:05:14,400 Speaker 2: Jeff Bridges, not bad. I like Jeff Bridges. Not Jeff Bridges. 2233 02:05:14,440 --> 02:05:16,640 Speaker 2: It's actually a kid by the name of Paul Skens. 2234 02:05:17,200 --> 02:05:19,800 Speaker 2: Paul was the number one pick overall in the Draft 2235 02:05:19,880 --> 02:05:26,840 Speaker 2: Baseball Draft just last week. Paul Skeens. All right, this year, 2236 02:05:26,880 --> 02:05:29,320 Speaker 2: I'll be playing quarterback. Now we flipped the college football 2237 02:05:29,720 --> 02:05:33,600 Speaker 2: This euro will be playing quarterback for University of Louisville Louisville, 2238 02:05:34,200 --> 02:05:37,680 Speaker 2: and yes, I will be the only quarterback in college 2239 02:05:37,680 --> 02:05:41,280 Speaker 2: football history when we play Notre Dame. I'll be the 2240 02:05:41,280 --> 02:05:45,360 Speaker 2: only quarterback in college football history to start against Notre 2241 02:05:45,480 --> 02:05:49,440 Speaker 2: Dame for three different schools. Mark Ramsey, went my name. 2242 02:05:52,320 --> 02:05:54,720 Speaker 6: I'm gonna say new Rockney Junior. 2243 02:05:56,040 --> 02:06:00,000 Speaker 2: You're good at this game. Sorry, not newt Rockney Junior. 2244 02:06:01,360 --> 02:06:04,920 Speaker 2: I like it all right. I played quarterback for Louisville 2245 02:06:04,920 --> 02:06:06,720 Speaker 2: and this year, when we played Notre Dame, will be 2246 02:06:06,720 --> 02:06:10,280 Speaker 2: the only quarterback college football history to start against Notre 2247 02:06:10,360 --> 02:06:15,360 Speaker 2: Dame for three different schools. Patrick Squeaker, what my name? 2248 02:06:16,080 --> 02:06:19,680 Speaker 7: Who is Jackson dart Hey? 2249 02:06:19,680 --> 02:06:22,760 Speaker 2: Hey? Is he still a USC or he transfer? No? 2250 02:06:22,800 --> 02:06:23,960 Speaker 7: I think he transferred. 2251 02:06:24,400 --> 02:06:28,000 Speaker 2: I like that name. It's actually Jack Plumber, Jack Plummer. 2252 02:06:28,040 --> 02:06:29,880 Speaker 2: I think he's the son of Jake Plumber, So you 2253 02:06:29,880 --> 02:06:31,800 Speaker 2: guys aren't too far off. Instead of Jackson, it was 2254 02:06:31,880 --> 02:06:34,640 Speaker 2: Jack and instead of Neuke Rocky Junior is Jack Plummer. 2255 02:06:34,640 --> 02:06:35,920 Speaker 2: I don't know if he's a junior, but I'm pretty 2256 02:06:35,960 --> 02:06:37,560 Speaker 2: sure his father Jake Plummer. 2257 02:06:37,600 --> 02:06:38,280 Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure too. 2258 02:06:38,320 --> 02:06:41,880 Speaker 2: I'm all right, we'll have to look into that. Maybe 2259 02:06:41,880 --> 02:06:43,880 Speaker 2: that dog guy in Japan can look into that for us, 2260 02:06:43,920 --> 02:06:47,720 Speaker 2: all right, all right. We're the first brother combination to 2261 02:06:47,880 --> 02:06:52,720 Speaker 2: appear on a Wheaty's box, first brother combination to appear 2262 02:06:52,720 --> 02:06:55,920 Speaker 2: in a Reedy's box. Just happening this month. Mark Ramsey, 2263 02:06:55,920 --> 02:06:56,480 Speaker 2: what my name? 2264 02:06:57,920 --> 02:07:00,800 Speaker 6: I'm just gonna throw out a name. Johnny Bench and 2265 02:07:00,800 --> 02:07:01,840 Speaker 6: his son. I don't I don't know. 2266 02:07:01,880 --> 02:07:03,240 Speaker 2: I have no idea he does have a son. I 2267 02:07:03,400 --> 02:07:05,320 Speaker 2: like I like it. I like it Johnny Bench, not 2268 02:07:05,360 --> 02:07:09,600 Speaker 2: Johnny Bench. We're the first brother combination to appear in 2269 02:07:09,640 --> 02:07:12,720 Speaker 2: a Wheaties box. Patrick Sweeker, what my name. 2270 02:07:13,720 --> 02:07:16,640 Speaker 10: Who I am gonna go on a lemon Say? Who 2271 02:07:16,880 --> 02:07:18,879 Speaker 10: is Eli Payn Manning? 2272 02:07:19,680 --> 02:07:23,240 Speaker 2: Hey, that's not bad, same sport. It's actually the Watt 2273 02:07:23,240 --> 02:07:27,120 Speaker 2: brothers JJ Watton will be They'll be in a Wheaties box, 2274 02:07:28,040 --> 02:07:35,640 Speaker 2: all right. Recently baseball had the home run derby Tuesday. 2275 02:07:36,440 --> 02:07:40,320 Speaker 2: I'm the only rookie to win the Major League Baseball 2276 02:07:40,360 --> 02:07:43,440 Speaker 2: home run derby, Mark Ramsey with my. 2277 02:07:43,440 --> 02:07:47,720 Speaker 6: Name, let's see rookie, rookie, rookie. 2278 02:07:47,920 --> 02:07:48,879 Speaker 2: It's a rookie. 2279 02:07:50,680 --> 02:07:53,600 Speaker 6: Uh, it's not Ken Griffy Jr. 2280 02:07:53,840 --> 02:07:57,640 Speaker 2: Not Ken Griffy Jr. I'm the only rookie to win 2281 02:07:57,920 --> 02:08:00,440 Speaker 2: the Major League Baseball home run derby, Patrick week Of 2282 02:08:00,520 --> 02:08:01,040 Speaker 2: what my name? 2283 02:08:01,880 --> 02:08:03,879 Speaker 7: Who is Pete Alonzo? 2284 02:08:04,720 --> 02:08:07,400 Speaker 2: Oh? That's a good guest too, same city. It's actually 2285 02:08:07,480 --> 02:08:13,000 Speaker 2: Aaron Judge. Aaron Judge did it all right? Clayton Kershaw 2286 02:08:13,240 --> 02:08:17,080 Speaker 2: recently had his tenth All Star appearance as a member 2287 02:08:17,120 --> 02:08:20,960 Speaker 2: of the Los Angeles Dodgers. He ties the all time 2288 02:08:21,080 --> 02:08:26,800 Speaker 2: Dodger record that was set by me, Mark Ramsey, What 2289 02:08:26,960 --> 02:08:27,360 Speaker 2: my name? 2290 02:08:30,240 --> 02:08:32,680 Speaker 6: This is a totally wrong wild guests. 2291 02:08:32,680 --> 02:08:37,800 Speaker 2: Ferguson Jenkins I love Ferggy Jenkins Man, good Canadian pitcher 2292 02:08:37,840 --> 02:08:42,240 Speaker 2: for the Cubs. Not Fergie Jenkins. All right. Clayton Kershaw 2293 02:08:42,360 --> 02:08:45,080 Speaker 2: appeared in his tenth Major League Baseball All Star Game 2294 02:08:45,080 --> 02:08:48,640 Speaker 2: as a Dodger this past week. He ties the all 2295 02:08:48,680 --> 02:08:51,960 Speaker 2: time appearance record as a Dodger that was originally set 2296 02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:55,320 Speaker 2: by me, Patrick sweek At, What my name? 2297 02:08:56,080 --> 02:09:00,840 Speaker 7: Who? Who is? Definitely not Trevor Bower. 2298 02:09:00,880 --> 02:09:03,720 Speaker 10: I'm going with Sandy Kofax. 2299 02:09:04,320 --> 02:09:08,520 Speaker 2: You're sneaking your so on. One goes a little deeper 2300 02:09:08,520 --> 02:09:10,640 Speaker 2: into the cookie jar. But if you're a Dodger fan, 2301 02:09:10,720 --> 02:09:14,280 Speaker 2: you remember this. Actually, pee Wee Reese, Pee Wee Reese 2302 02:09:14,320 --> 02:09:16,440 Speaker 2: was the shortstop of the Dodger did it ten years 2303 02:09:16,480 --> 02:09:19,360 Speaker 2: in a row, for ten years. All right? We are 2304 02:09:19,400 --> 02:09:22,840 Speaker 2: the only guys, what's got the same name? We're the 2305 02:09:22,880 --> 02:09:27,400 Speaker 2: only father son duo to participate in the Major League 2306 02:09:27,440 --> 02:09:31,360 Speaker 2: Baseball home run Derby. Patrick SWEEKA, what my name? 2307 02:09:32,520 --> 02:09:37,640 Speaker 10: Oh, it's gotta be who is Ken, Griffy and Junior? 2308 02:09:38,320 --> 02:09:41,440 Speaker 2: Not them? No, no, nope, I don't think Senior ever 2309 02:09:41,640 --> 02:09:44,640 Speaker 2: was in the home run derby. Uh I'm We're the 2310 02:09:44,680 --> 02:09:47,520 Speaker 2: only father son duo to participate in the MLB home 2311 02:09:47,600 --> 02:09:50,560 Speaker 2: run Derby. I'll give you a clue. The son did 2312 02:09:50,600 --> 02:09:55,680 Speaker 2: it this year Okay, So, Mark Ramsey, what my name 2313 02:09:57,400 --> 02:09:57,640 Speaker 2: is it? 2314 02:09:57,680 --> 02:09:59,160 Speaker 6: Guerrero Junie, you got it? 2315 02:09:59,200 --> 02:10:03,880 Speaker 2: There you go, Vladimir Guerrero Junior, Latimer Guerrero Senior. Sorr. 2316 02:10:03,880 --> 02:10:05,640 Speaker 2: I should have gave you rub should have gave you 2317 02:10:05,640 --> 02:10:10,000 Speaker 2: the clue as well. Patrick, all right, finally one, we're gonna. 2318 02:10:10,000 --> 02:10:12,480 Speaker 2: We're gonna. I just found this out the other day. 2319 02:10:12,480 --> 02:10:18,080 Speaker 2: This is interesting. This is pure trivia. Okay, we're vacating 2320 02:10:18,120 --> 02:10:20,400 Speaker 2: the world of sports and getting into the world of entertainment. 2321 02:10:20,440 --> 02:10:20,640 Speaker 4: Now. 2322 02:10:22,560 --> 02:10:28,840 Speaker 2: My parents named me after James Taylor. They decided my name, 2323 02:10:28,880 --> 02:10:31,800 Speaker 2: they would name me after James Taylor before I was 2324 02:10:31,840 --> 02:10:34,560 Speaker 2: even born, because they believed I was gonna be a star. 2325 02:10:36,880 --> 02:10:38,160 Speaker 2: Mark Ramsey wasn't my name? 2326 02:10:40,760 --> 02:10:46,640 Speaker 6: Oh gosh, I'm not sure who Fiona but Apple? I 2327 02:10:46,640 --> 02:10:48,000 Speaker 6: don't know Fiona Apple. 2328 02:10:48,000 --> 02:10:48,560 Speaker 10: I don't know. 2329 02:10:50,040 --> 02:10:54,040 Speaker 2: Not Fiona Apple. My parents, before I was even born, 2330 02:10:54,520 --> 02:10:57,800 Speaker 2: decided they were gonna name me after James Taylor because 2331 02:10:57,840 --> 02:10:59,560 Speaker 2: they believed I would grow up to be a star. 2332 02:11:00,400 --> 02:11:02,040 Speaker 2: Patrick Sweaker, what my name? 2333 02:11:03,040 --> 02:11:06,040 Speaker 7: Who is Lebron James? 2334 02:11:11,120 --> 02:11:15,760 Speaker 2: I'm shocked he's not retiring. I'm shocked. It's actually it's 2335 02:11:15,800 --> 02:11:23,360 Speaker 2: actually Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift. Yeah, she said that, you know, 2336 02:11:23,400 --> 02:11:28,880 Speaker 2: I believe she's telling the truth. All right, guys, good job. 2337 02:11:29,440 --> 02:11:33,320 Speaker 2: This is not easy. It's never easy, it's not designed 2338 02:11:33,320 --> 02:11:35,640 Speaker 2: to be easy, But you guys did a good job. 2339 02:11:36,640 --> 02:11:38,920 Speaker 2: Tonight show is brought to you by a Progressive Insurance 2340 02:11:39,320 --> 02:11:42,839 Speaker 2: Progressive Banks. Bundling easy and affordable. Get a multi policy 2341 02:11:42,880 --> 02:11:47,560 Speaker 2: discount by combining your motorcycle, r V, boat, ATV and more, 2342 02:11:47,680 --> 02:11:51,960 Speaker 2: all your protection in one place, bundling save at Progressive 2343 02:11:52,640 --> 02:11:58,640 Speaker 2: dot Com. Hey, by the way, coming up, we have 2344 02:11:58,920 --> 02:12:05,000 Speaker 2: Patrick Sweeks Progressive Play of the day. So good job again, guys, 2345 02:12:05,160 --> 02:12:09,120 Speaker 2: Mark appreciate you jumping in there on that. Onward and upward, 2346 02:12:09,160 --> 02:12:11,720 Speaker 2: And of course you folks will have to wait another 2347 02:12:11,880 --> 02:12:16,120 Speaker 2: seven days for another rousing additions of brand new fool 2348 02:12:16,960 --> 02:12:20,280 Speaker 2: and what my name? I'm Bernie Frattle. Come to you 2349 02:12:20,400 --> 02:12:23,440 Speaker 2: live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio tirerack dot 2350 02:12:23,440 --> 02:12:25,760 Speaker 2: Com studios. Keep it locked right here. You're listening to 2351 02:12:25,760 --> 02:12:32,080 Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattles Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right, 2352 02:12:32,120 --> 02:12:35,000 Speaker 2: back on the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio. Come 2353 02:12:35,040 --> 02:12:37,960 Speaker 2: to you live from the tirack dot Com studios here 2354 02:12:38,520 --> 02:12:42,080 Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. Before we dive into the progressive power 2355 02:12:42,120 --> 02:12:44,440 Speaker 2: play of the day. Well, as part of our what 2356 02:12:44,600 --> 02:12:47,640 Speaker 2: My Name segment, we talked about the fact that Jack Plumber, 2357 02:12:48,280 --> 02:12:50,880 Speaker 2: current quarterback now for the Louisville Cardinals. This is the 2358 02:12:50,920 --> 02:12:54,760 Speaker 2: third college team he'll have been a quarterback for. He'll 2359 02:12:54,800 --> 02:12:57,880 Speaker 2: be the only quarterback in college football history to start 2360 02:12:57,920 --> 02:13:02,280 Speaker 2: against Notre Dame for three different schools. But it turns 2361 02:13:02,280 --> 02:13:07,040 Speaker 2: out he is not the son of the former Jake 2362 02:13:07,280 --> 02:13:11,880 Speaker 2: Plumber of Arizona State and NFL fame. Credit Patrick Speaker, Patrick, 2363 02:13:11,880 --> 02:13:12,320 Speaker 2: what did you. 2364 02:13:12,280 --> 02:13:13,879 Speaker 7: Find, so Bernie? 2365 02:13:13,960 --> 02:13:15,720 Speaker 10: I did a little bit of digging just to see 2366 02:13:15,800 --> 02:13:18,560 Speaker 10: is is Jack Plumber Jake's son? 2367 02:13:18,920 --> 02:13:21,240 Speaker 7: And apparently. 2368 02:13:22,280 --> 02:13:25,320 Speaker 10: Jack was often asked whether you know he is the son, 2369 02:13:25,400 --> 02:13:28,640 Speaker 10: and he has gone on record saying not related to 2370 02:13:28,720 --> 02:13:31,760 Speaker 10: Jake in any way as far as he knows. Uh so, 2371 02:13:32,360 --> 02:13:35,880 Speaker 10: no relation was not any familiar, no uncle, no, you know, 2372 02:13:36,080 --> 02:13:38,960 Speaker 10: great grandfather, whatever you want to call it. So to 2373 02:13:39,080 --> 02:13:43,600 Speaker 10: quote the immortal Jerry Springer, Jake Plumber, you are not 2374 02:13:44,280 --> 02:13:45,160 Speaker 10: the father. 2375 02:13:46,560 --> 02:13:49,080 Speaker 2: As far as you knows. What you said, as far 2376 02:13:49,160 --> 02:13:51,920 Speaker 2: as we know, yeah, well that's what I assumed. And 2377 02:13:52,040 --> 02:13:54,160 Speaker 2: you know what happens when you assume, It makes an 2378 02:13:54,160 --> 02:13:55,760 Speaker 2: ass out of you and me. Well, out of you, 2379 02:13:55,800 --> 02:13:58,720 Speaker 2: but me so fair enough. That's why we employed the 2380 02:13:58,760 --> 02:14:02,520 Speaker 2: crack staff here, all right. So as a segue to that, 2381 02:14:02,720 --> 02:14:05,560 Speaker 2: at this time every week, Patrick also brings us his 2382 02:14:05,720 --> 02:14:07,480 Speaker 2: progressive power play of the day. 2383 02:14:07,960 --> 02:14:09,880 Speaker 1: This has been one heck of a fight from the 2384 02:14:09,920 --> 02:14:10,800 Speaker 1: Angels tonight. 2385 02:14:13,120 --> 02:14:13,840 Speaker 7: How about a. 2386 02:14:13,840 --> 02:14:16,560 Speaker 11: Second fielder biber Bond hits at the Cussinger. 2387 02:14:29,480 --> 02:14:34,200 Speaker 2: Those courtesy of Bally Sports Los Angeles Air Bally Sports West. 2388 02:14:34,480 --> 02:14:38,000 Speaker 2: Look a game like that can turn a team's fortunes around. 2389 02:14:38,560 --> 02:14:40,880 Speaker 2: And I saw it. It looked like a tailor made 2390 02:14:40,960 --> 02:14:44,600 Speaker 2: double play. And these things happen. That's baseball and long 2391 02:14:44,680 --> 02:14:47,080 Speaker 2: the short of it is, you know, And someone asked 2392 02:14:47,120 --> 02:14:48,560 Speaker 2: me to to revisit this. So at the end of 2393 02:14:48,600 --> 02:14:50,840 Speaker 2: the show, I'll talk about some of the greatest pen 2394 02:14:50,920 --> 02:14:53,720 Speaker 2: and chased comebacks of teams who were buried. The Angels 2395 02:14:53,720 --> 02:14:56,480 Speaker 2: are only one game under five hundred, and it's July sixteenth. 2396 02:14:56,600 --> 02:15:01,320 Speaker 2: When I tell you some of these teams and their comebacks, 2397 02:15:02,200 --> 02:15:07,040 Speaker 2: you might be very surprised, and you might take heart 2398 02:15:07,240 --> 02:15:10,480 Speaker 2: because it's not nearly as late in the season as 2399 02:15:10,480 --> 02:15:14,600 Speaker 2: you think. And look, they get trout back. If they 2400 02:15:14,680 --> 02:15:18,480 Speaker 2: keep on to Otani. Anything can happen. But a game 2401 02:15:18,640 --> 02:15:21,000 Speaker 2: like that tonight the way it ended. The Angels won 2402 02:15:21,080 --> 02:15:24,000 Speaker 2: thirteen to twelve. They beat Houston. They've been scuffling lately, 2403 02:15:24,720 --> 02:15:27,160 Speaker 2: multiple lead changes in that game, but they prevail to 2404 02:15:27,240 --> 02:15:29,160 Speaker 2: get to w their one game under five hundred. That 2405 02:15:29,160 --> 02:15:32,360 Speaker 2: would have been a gut wrenching loss had they not won, 2406 02:15:32,360 --> 02:15:33,680 Speaker 2: because they had to come up with three in the 2407 02:15:33,760 --> 02:15:35,840 Speaker 2: ninth to tie the game. They take it to extra 2408 02:15:35,880 --> 02:15:38,840 Speaker 2: innings and they're holding on thirteen. Oh man, it would 2409 02:15:38,880 --> 02:15:42,040 Speaker 2: have been wow. Well you get the picture, Patrick, and 2410 02:15:42,080 --> 02:15:44,080 Speaker 2: that Progressive play of the day brought to you by 2411 02:15:44,160 --> 02:15:47,840 Speaker 2: Progressive Insurance, Progressive Bankes Bundling gezi't affordable. Get a multi 2412 02:15:47,840 --> 02:15:51,800 Speaker 2: policy discount by combining your motorcycle, RV, boat, ATV and 2413 02:15:51,880 --> 02:15:54,800 Speaker 2: more all your protection in one place. Bundle and save 2414 02:15:54,920 --> 02:16:01,480 Speaker 2: at Progressive dot com. By the way, or wemben Yama. 2415 02:16:02,360 --> 02:16:06,520 Speaker 2: You heard my assessment of him, and I know that 2416 02:16:06,640 --> 02:16:10,120 Speaker 2: people have a tendency to selectively listen, and I made 2417 02:16:10,120 --> 02:16:14,720 Speaker 2: the statement that although it's clear he has excellent handles 2418 02:16:14,760 --> 02:16:19,160 Speaker 2: and his vision is way above average, he's a very 2419 02:16:19,200 --> 02:16:25,040 Speaker 2: good passer. His wingspan is ridiculous. He shows good instincts 2420 02:16:25,040 --> 02:16:28,440 Speaker 2: on the floor. From what I can see, maturity, He's 2421 02:16:28,480 --> 02:16:34,440 Speaker 2: knocked off his pins multiple times. Physically he is. Let 2422 02:16:34,480 --> 02:16:36,000 Speaker 2: me just put it to you this way. We were 2423 02:16:36,080 --> 02:16:42,440 Speaker 2: told that Victor wemban Yama was generational. Right, can't miss unbelievable, 2424 02:16:42,520 --> 02:16:43,920 Speaker 2: Get out of the way. He's already in the Hall 2425 02:16:43,920 --> 02:16:47,520 Speaker 2: of Fame. That's very much the implication. Well, from what 2426 02:16:47,640 --> 02:16:51,360 Speaker 2: I saw, I saw a skillful player. But I've also 2427 02:16:51,400 --> 02:16:53,760 Speaker 2: seen other players at age nineteen, and since you told 2428 02:16:53,840 --> 02:16:57,080 Speaker 2: us he would be generational, I compared him to other 2429 02:16:57,160 --> 02:17:01,240 Speaker 2: generational players I saw at nineteen, Magic and Darryl Dawkins, 2430 02:17:01,240 --> 02:17:06,560 Speaker 2: Bill Walton, Lebron James Kobe Bryant, lou El Sinder. I 2431 02:17:06,600 --> 02:17:09,039 Speaker 2: will just say this, and this is an objective statement. 2432 02:17:09,040 --> 02:17:12,560 Speaker 2: There are objective truths and there are personal feelings. I 2433 02:17:12,560 --> 02:17:19,160 Speaker 2: don't confuse the two. Objectively, at nineteen Wemby is, in 2434 02:17:19,280 --> 02:17:22,320 Speaker 2: terms of his stage of development, nowhere near any of 2435 02:17:22,360 --> 02:17:24,800 Speaker 2: those players I just mentioned. Now, that doesn't mean he 2436 02:17:24,840 --> 02:17:27,640 Speaker 2: can't get there, doesn't mean he won't get there, but 2437 02:17:27,680 --> 02:17:29,840 Speaker 2: he has to do it. And people are saying, we'll 2438 02:17:29,840 --> 02:17:32,320 Speaker 2: give it three years for growing to his body. Three years. 2439 02:17:32,520 --> 02:17:33,680 Speaker 2: What do you call him a project? 2440 02:17:33,720 --> 02:17:33,959 Speaker 10: Now? 2441 02:17:34,240 --> 02:17:37,359 Speaker 2: Three years. Every one of those players had instant success 2442 02:17:37,360 --> 02:17:40,760 Speaker 2: in the NBA when they stepped onto an NBA floor. Now, 2443 02:17:40,959 --> 02:17:44,240 Speaker 2: I'm not casting expersions. I'm not creating an additional pressure 2444 02:17:44,280 --> 02:17:47,440 Speaker 2: on Wemby. It's going to be fun to watch. You're 2445 02:17:47,480 --> 02:17:49,600 Speaker 2: the ones that told us he would be generational. So 2446 02:17:49,720 --> 02:17:54,160 Speaker 2: not only in my belief in terms of his body type, 2447 02:17:54,560 --> 02:18:00,000 Speaker 2: in terms of his strength, relative explosiveness, willingness to absorb contact, 2448 02:18:00,120 --> 02:18:03,039 Speaker 2: all those things. By the way, the NBA Summer League, 2449 02:18:03,080 --> 02:18:07,199 Speaker 2: it's twenty percent of an NBA game, twenty percent nowhere 2450 02:18:07,280 --> 02:18:10,800 Speaker 2: near NBA caliber. But I've also seen plenty of other 2451 02:18:10,840 --> 02:18:16,920 Speaker 2: players make stellar debuts, Zion Dame Lillard, Devin Booker, Dion Waiters, 2452 02:18:17,480 --> 02:18:21,160 Speaker 2: Andrew Wiggins, Christaps Porsingas. All of them were far more 2453 02:18:21,200 --> 02:18:24,680 Speaker 2: impressive than Wemby in their debut. And I realized Wemby 2454 02:18:24,720 --> 02:18:26,440 Speaker 2: only scored nine points in the first game. Then he 2455 02:18:26,480 --> 02:18:28,720 Speaker 2: scored twenty seven. So the difference in the two was 2456 02:18:29,120 --> 02:18:31,000 Speaker 2: the second game the ball went in the basket the 2457 02:18:31,040 --> 02:18:33,960 Speaker 2: first time. It didn't. Doesn't change his body type, his 2458 02:18:34,120 --> 02:18:38,119 Speaker 2: relative explosiveness, or what I consider to be an NBA body. 2459 02:18:38,640 --> 02:18:40,600 Speaker 2: I think he's got a long way to go, and 2460 02:18:40,640 --> 02:18:42,640 Speaker 2: that's all I'm going to say. He may get there. 2461 02:18:42,720 --> 02:18:45,680 Speaker 2: I'm not rooting against him. I like him, but it 2462 02:18:45,720 --> 02:18:47,320 Speaker 2: didn't match up with what we were told. Be that 2463 02:18:47,400 --> 02:18:51,120 Speaker 2: as it may. The game he played in it was 2464 02:18:51,160 --> 02:18:54,800 Speaker 2: the second most watched NBA Summer League game of all time, 2465 02:18:54,840 --> 02:18:57,960 Speaker 2: one point four million viewers. The only game that drew 2466 02:18:58,000 --> 02:19:00,920 Speaker 2: more viewers was Zion back in time nineteen and I 2467 02:19:00,959 --> 02:19:02,200 Speaker 2: was there for that too. That was a night of 2468 02:19:02,240 --> 02:19:04,720 Speaker 2: the earthquake here in Vegas. He had one point six 2469 02:19:04,840 --> 02:19:08,680 Speaker 2: million people watch that game. And I will tell you 2470 02:19:08,800 --> 02:19:12,080 Speaker 2: Zion was the man against boys, but he can't stay 2471 02:19:12,120 --> 02:19:14,120 Speaker 2: on the floor, regardless when he was on the floor 2472 02:19:14,160 --> 02:19:16,760 Speaker 2: man against boys. I didn't see that in wemb at all. 2473 02:19:17,400 --> 02:19:21,600 Speaker 2: But he's nineteen. Let's see what happens from here. Coming 2474 02:19:21,640 --> 02:19:24,240 Speaker 2: up Chris Purfett's World of Soccer. But first let's go 2475 02:19:24,280 --> 02:19:26,480 Speaker 2: back to our guy. Steve de Sager with the latest. 2476 02:19:28,080 --> 02:19:30,800 Speaker 8: The busy Saturday in Major League Baseball was capped by 2477 02:19:30,879 --> 02:19:34,439 Speaker 8: the Angels comeback win in ten innings over Houston thirteen 2478 02:19:34,520 --> 02:19:36,880 Speaker 8: to twelve. The game winning run scored on a throwing 2479 02:19:36,920 --> 02:19:39,920 Speaker 8: air show. Hey Otani with his thirty third home run 2480 02:19:39,920 --> 02:19:41,680 Speaker 8: of the season. That was part of a three run 2481 02:19:41,680 --> 02:19:44,200 Speaker 8: bottom of the ninth to tie. The Yankees led at 2482 02:19:44,240 --> 02:19:46,280 Speaker 8: Colorado six ' to one in the second and ing 2483 02:19:46,280 --> 02:19:49,080 Speaker 8: Gen Carlos Stanton a three run homer sixty three Yankees 2484 02:19:49,120 --> 02:19:51,920 Speaker 8: the final. Detroit held Seattle to just three hits in 2485 02:19:51,959 --> 02:19:55,880 Speaker 8: a six nothing Tigers victory. Milwaukee shut out Cincinnati again 2486 02:19:55,920 --> 02:19:58,800 Speaker 8: three to nothing. Minnesota handed Oakland a six straight lost 2487 02:19:58,840 --> 02:20:01,760 Speaker 8: ten to seven, Tenants just ten thousand there In the 2488 02:20:01,760 --> 02:20:04,440 Speaker 8: East Bay, Baltimore won its seventh straight game six ' 2489 02:20:04,440 --> 02:20:07,240 Speaker 8: five over Miami, and the White Sox held on six 2490 02:20:07,320 --> 02:20:10,240 Speaker 8: to five at Atlanta. The Dodgers won their sixth game 2491 02:20:10,280 --> 02:20:13,119 Speaker 8: in a row. San Francisco won its fourth straight. Saint 2492 02:20:13,160 --> 02:20:16,320 Speaker 8: Louis and Washington split a doubleheader. Tampa Bay up to 2493 02:20:16,400 --> 02:20:19,840 Speaker 8: sixty wins already after a doubleheader sweep at Kansas City, 2494 02:20:20,080 --> 02:20:23,160 Speaker 8: and Philadelphia swept a twin bill against the Padres. Kyle 2495 02:20:23,200 --> 02:20:25,920 Speaker 8: Schwarber Homert in each game. He has twenty four. The 2496 02:20:25,959 --> 02:20:29,280 Speaker 8: Wimbledon Men's Final starts at nine am Eastern time, number 2497 02:20:29,360 --> 02:20:34,119 Speaker 8: two seed Novak Djokovic against number one Carlos Alcarez Saturday morning. 2498 02:20:34,160 --> 02:20:37,760 Speaker 8: The Ladies champion was Marquette van Drusova, the first unseated 2499 02:20:37,800 --> 02:20:41,040 Speaker 8: woman to take the title there. Mexico plays Sunday night 2500 02:20:41,120 --> 02:20:43,879 Speaker 8: in la and the Gold Cup Soccer tournament final against 2501 02:20:43,920 --> 02:20:47,880 Speaker 8: Panama Saturday night in Vegas was the WNBA All Star Game. 2502 02:20:47,920 --> 02:20:51,640 Speaker 8: Brianna Stewart's team won one forty three to one twenty seven, 2503 02:20:51,720 --> 02:20:54,920 Speaker 8: and the game MVP Jewel Lloyd had thirty one points. 2504 02:20:55,160 --> 02:20:56,160 Speaker 8: I'm Steve Desager. 2505 02:20:57,120 --> 02:20:59,640 Speaker 2: All right, thanks so much, Steve. Well, here we are again, 2506 02:21:00,760 --> 02:21:03,960 Speaker 2: not that far removed from Men's World Cup last fall 2507 02:21:04,480 --> 02:21:06,840 Speaker 2: Women's World Cup where the USA team looks for their 2508 02:21:06,879 --> 02:21:10,680 Speaker 2: three peet. We are just a week away as they 2509 02:21:10,680 --> 02:21:14,480 Speaker 2: will face off against Vietnam. That, among other things, always 2510 02:21:14,640 --> 02:21:17,480 Speaker 2: plenty of things in the news, which is why at 2511 02:21:17,480 --> 02:21:20,199 Speaker 2: this time every week we bring you Chris purfets World 2512 02:21:20,200 --> 02:21:21,000 Speaker 2: of Soccer. 2513 02:21:21,920 --> 02:21:32,920 Speaker 9: The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international. 2514 02:21:32,160 --> 02:21:40,160 Speaker 1: Drama him It's all here in this report from the 2515 02:21:40,160 --> 02:21:44,440 Speaker 1: World of Soccer. The Women's World Cup is here, Bernie. 2516 02:21:44,520 --> 02:21:46,680 Speaker 11: After the long wait, we have finally arrived at the 2517 02:21:46,720 --> 02:21:51,240 Speaker 11: next World Cup event taking place co hosted between the 2518 02:21:51,280 --> 02:21:55,400 Speaker 11: island countries of Australia and New Zealand. A lot of 2519 02:21:55,400 --> 02:21:58,039 Speaker 11: these games will be late games for US here in 2520 02:21:58,080 --> 02:22:02,520 Speaker 11: the North American continent. Expect a lot of overnights, three ams, 2521 02:22:03,440 --> 02:22:08,760 Speaker 11: midnights six pm Pacific, nine Eastern, things of that nature. 2522 02:22:09,040 --> 02:22:12,920 Speaker 11: But it means on Friday at nine pm Eastern, sixth Pacific, 2523 02:22:13,000 --> 02:22:18,240 Speaker 11: the United States kicks off their campaign against groupmate Vietnam. 2524 02:22:18,600 --> 02:22:20,000 Speaker 1: It's a fascinating. 2525 02:22:19,440 --> 02:22:21,800 Speaker 11: Women's World Cup because as much as I believe that 2526 02:22:22,120 --> 02:22:24,840 Speaker 11: the conversation has been about the United States women's team 2527 02:22:24,879 --> 02:22:27,280 Speaker 11: in this country, and why shouldn't it be it's the 2528 02:22:27,520 --> 02:22:31,360 Speaker 11: team that represents our country, I believe this Women's World 2529 02:22:31,440 --> 02:22:34,039 Speaker 11: Cup is more opened up versus World Cups the past. 2530 02:22:34,280 --> 02:22:35,680 Speaker 11: I think a lot of people have written in the 2531 02:22:35,760 --> 02:22:39,119 Speaker 11: United States team to just simply coast through go through 2532 02:22:39,160 --> 02:22:41,520 Speaker 11: a three pt, which hasn't really been done in the 2533 02:22:41,520 --> 02:22:44,840 Speaker 11: women's game. The closest was Germany in the aughts, but 2534 02:22:44,959 --> 02:22:47,520 Speaker 11: even they failed to succeed in their three p The 2535 02:22:47,560 --> 02:22:51,360 Speaker 11: women's team is undergoing something of a sea change, and 2536 02:22:51,400 --> 02:22:54,360 Speaker 11: I think it's most evidenced by the retirement announcement of 2537 02:22:54,440 --> 02:22:57,680 Speaker 11: Megan Rapino that this will be probably not just her 2538 02:22:57,760 --> 02:23:00,680 Speaker 11: last World Cup run, but also her final year of 2539 02:23:00,760 --> 02:23:04,000 Speaker 11: professional play in the game of soccer. She's had a long, 2540 02:23:04,040 --> 02:23:08,040 Speaker 11: emblematic career. She represents much of the women's team, not 2541 02:23:08,160 --> 02:23:11,240 Speaker 11: just into heart and soul and ability on the pitch, 2542 02:23:11,280 --> 02:23:14,480 Speaker 11: but also in how they have tried to use their 2543 02:23:14,520 --> 02:23:17,960 Speaker 11: platform to evidence change around them, not always successfully, but 2544 02:23:18,480 --> 02:23:21,440 Speaker 11: nevertheless that has been the characteristic of the women's team 2545 02:23:21,440 --> 02:23:24,320 Speaker 11: and a lot of women's soccer. This is indeed probably 2546 02:23:24,320 --> 02:23:27,279 Speaker 11: the last rallying cry for her and Alex Morgan, unless 2547 02:23:27,280 --> 02:23:30,840 Speaker 11: Alex can still play into her deep late thirties. But 2548 02:23:32,040 --> 02:23:34,560 Speaker 11: the new generation of the US women is trying to 2549 02:23:34,640 --> 02:23:36,959 Speaker 11: come up. One of those is probably to keep an 2550 02:23:36,959 --> 02:23:40,160 Speaker 11: eye on most is Sophia Smith. Probably I would say 2551 02:23:40,320 --> 02:23:43,480 Speaker 11: the second best player in this tournament. I'll get to 2552 02:23:43,480 --> 02:23:46,920 Speaker 11: the first in the second. And indeed Sophia Smith is 2553 02:23:46,920 --> 02:23:49,560 Speaker 11: going to have a lot on her plate, especially as 2554 02:23:49,680 --> 02:23:52,879 Speaker 11: Malory Swanson will be missing much of this Cup with 2555 02:23:52,920 --> 02:23:55,760 Speaker 11: an injury. If the US wants to continue to be 2556 02:23:55,800 --> 02:23:58,240 Speaker 11: that team that just simply puts goals on the board, 2557 02:23:58,240 --> 02:23:59,680 Speaker 11: they're going to need a lot more out of her. 2558 02:24:00,160 --> 02:24:03,120 Speaker 11: Probably need to look maybe also to Trinity Rodman, who 2559 02:24:03,240 --> 02:24:07,199 Speaker 11: yes is the daughter of former NBA star Dennis Rodman. 2560 02:24:08,160 --> 02:24:10,720 Speaker 11: Now last World Cup the women's team was accused of 2561 02:24:10,720 --> 02:24:15,480 Speaker 11: poor sportsmanship for piling goals onto unsuspecting countries, and that 2562 02:24:15,600 --> 02:24:18,879 Speaker 11: accusation might come up again because their group is not 2563 02:24:19,080 --> 02:24:21,480 Speaker 11: great and I expect the US to walk through here 2564 02:24:21,959 --> 02:24:26,880 Speaker 11: no problem whatsoever, especially against the kickoff opponent Vietnam, who 2565 02:24:26,920 --> 02:24:30,440 Speaker 11: just got outscored nine to zero by Spain in a 2566 02:24:30,640 --> 02:24:33,920 Speaker 11: international friendly leading up to this Cup. The problem for 2567 02:24:33,959 --> 02:24:36,360 Speaker 11: the United States women's team is not going to come 2568 02:24:36,760 --> 02:24:38,880 Speaker 11: in the group stage. It's going to come as other 2569 02:24:38,920 --> 02:24:41,200 Speaker 11: Titans emerge from their group, and this is a year 2570 02:24:41,280 --> 02:24:44,720 Speaker 11: where there is more competition than ever to the United States. 2571 02:24:44,840 --> 02:24:47,640 Speaker 11: Crown I mentioned that Sophia Smith might be the second 2572 02:24:47,879 --> 02:24:50,600 Speaker 11: best player in this tournament. My first best is for 2573 02:24:50,720 --> 02:24:53,480 Speaker 11: Sam Kerr, one of the members of the Matilda's. The 2574 02:24:53,480 --> 02:24:57,600 Speaker 11: Australians who are the co hosts of this tournament and hosts, 2575 02:24:57,760 --> 02:25:00,560 Speaker 11: especially in the women's side, all we want to go 2576 02:25:00,680 --> 02:25:04,800 Speaker 11: very strong, and indeed Australia is a very very big 2577 02:25:04,840 --> 02:25:07,520 Speaker 11: sleeper pick in my opinion. I don't know if they'll 2578 02:25:07,560 --> 02:25:10,000 Speaker 11: be able to stack up against some of the teams 2579 02:25:10,040 --> 02:25:12,600 Speaker 11: later on, and indeed they have a rough road to 2580 02:25:12,760 --> 02:25:15,280 Speaker 11: that final, but they will be playing with heart and 2581 02:25:15,360 --> 02:25:18,360 Speaker 11: passion through a lot of this. Germany is currently number 2582 02:25:18,400 --> 02:25:21,040 Speaker 11: two in the world, behind the United States, and they're 2583 02:25:21,040 --> 02:25:23,840 Speaker 11: putting together one of their best rosters since their runs 2584 02:25:24,120 --> 02:25:27,760 Speaker 11: in the two thousands. Spain another one of my favorites, 2585 02:25:27,800 --> 02:25:31,240 Speaker 11: as they put together a fantastic roster that's clicking at 2586 02:25:31,240 --> 02:25:36,880 Speaker 11: the right time between Aitana Bonmadi and Alexia Putellis, who's 2587 02:25:36,920 --> 02:25:39,080 Speaker 11: coming in and as a back to back winner of 2588 02:25:39,080 --> 02:25:42,560 Speaker 11: the women's Blondure. However, on the downside for her, she 2589 02:25:42,640 --> 02:25:45,680 Speaker 11: did tear her ACL a while ago and has yet 2590 02:25:45,720 --> 02:25:48,800 Speaker 11: to play a full ninety minutes for the Spanish national team. 2591 02:25:49,240 --> 02:25:52,160 Speaker 11: Or England, who the longtime rivals for the United States 2592 02:25:52,200 --> 02:25:54,760 Speaker 11: and the women's game, and quite honestly, I see them 2593 02:25:54,800 --> 02:25:57,280 Speaker 11: going the wrong way right now. I'm not a big 2594 02:25:57,280 --> 02:25:59,280 Speaker 11: fan of them in this tournament, but nevertheless, if they 2595 02:25:59,360 --> 02:26:02,000 Speaker 11: decide to click in the eleventh hour, could still pose 2596 02:26:02,000 --> 02:26:05,119 Speaker 11: a problem. I haven't even talked about Spain or Brazil, 2597 02:26:05,600 --> 02:26:08,400 Speaker 11: or Japan, who always seems a surprise, or the rising 2598 02:26:08,480 --> 02:26:11,400 Speaker 11: state of Norway. The point is I'm trying to make 2599 02:26:11,520 --> 02:26:13,400 Speaker 11: is that I've heard a lot in leading up to 2600 02:26:13,480 --> 02:26:16,560 Speaker 11: this tournament that indicates that the United States women's team 2601 02:26:16,640 --> 02:26:19,280 Speaker 11: is somehow invincible. I do not believe it to be so. 2602 02:26:19,800 --> 02:26:21,480 Speaker 11: I believe that the rest of the world has been 2603 02:26:21,520 --> 02:26:24,200 Speaker 11: catching up to the women's team. I believe that with 2604 02:26:24,280 --> 02:26:27,040 Speaker 11: this generational sea change, it will pose a problem. I 2605 02:26:27,120 --> 02:26:29,760 Speaker 11: still expect them to win, but I don't see their 2606 02:26:29,879 --> 02:26:33,080 Speaker 11: victory as being ordained. And I know that maybe run 2607 02:26:33,280 --> 02:26:35,720 Speaker 11: rubbed some people the wrong way who are parachuting into 2608 02:26:35,760 --> 02:26:38,400 Speaker 11: soccer on the national side, in the World Cup side 2609 02:26:38,400 --> 02:26:40,600 Speaker 11: because they want to hear the United States is going 2610 02:26:40,640 --> 02:26:42,760 Speaker 11: to roll through this thing and win, and they don't 2611 02:26:42,800 --> 02:26:46,160 Speaker 11: care to hear about questions and concerns and everything else, 2612 02:26:46,200 --> 02:26:48,320 Speaker 11: and they just want to wave the flag. I'm telling you, 2613 02:26:48,560 --> 02:26:50,680 Speaker 11: Bernie that this is probably one of the deepest World 2614 02:26:50,760 --> 02:26:53,199 Speaker 11: Cups for the women's side we've seen in a while. 2615 02:26:53,800 --> 02:26:57,200 Speaker 11: And I believe that if the United States wants to 2616 02:26:57,280 --> 02:27:00,280 Speaker 11: make it and make history, lift the trop if be 2617 02:27:00,360 --> 02:27:03,000 Speaker 11: three times straight, they need to keep their egos in check. 2618 02:27:03,160 --> 02:27:06,480 Speaker 11: They need to keep their expectations in check. The veterans 2619 02:27:06,520 --> 02:27:09,320 Speaker 11: have to lead the young guns, and everyone has to 2620 02:27:09,320 --> 02:27:11,400 Speaker 11: do their part, because the problem is once you get 2621 02:27:11,400 --> 02:27:14,959 Speaker 11: to knockout rounds, problem with single late elimination is you 2622 02:27:15,080 --> 02:27:18,760 Speaker 11: only get one game. Here's to a fantastic World Cup Burnie, 2623 02:27:18,800 --> 02:27:20,720 Speaker 11: and we'll catch you next time. After the Americans have 2624 02:27:20,760 --> 02:27:22,520 Speaker 11: taken the field in the world of. 2625 02:27:22,480 --> 02:27:26,160 Speaker 2: Soccer, thanks Chris. And of course they take the field 2626 02:27:26,160 --> 02:27:28,880 Speaker 2: next week. By this time next week on the year, 2627 02:27:28,920 --> 02:27:31,520 Speaker 2: they will have had their first game against Vietnam. I 2628 02:27:31,560 --> 02:27:34,199 Speaker 2: don't think they'll have trouble getting out of their group stage, 2629 02:27:34,560 --> 02:27:38,280 Speaker 2: but as you advance, curious to see how they'll do 2630 02:27:38,320 --> 02:27:41,920 Speaker 2: against England or Germany if they should match up against 2631 02:27:41,959 --> 02:27:45,240 Speaker 2: those two teams. They're looking for a three peat, and 2632 02:27:45,560 --> 02:27:48,800 Speaker 2: while they are favored, I think, as Chris said, the 2633 02:27:48,840 --> 02:27:52,320 Speaker 2: field is deeper this year, and so victories are going 2634 02:27:52,360 --> 02:27:56,640 Speaker 2: to be hard fought and sometimes goals are accidents in soccer. 2635 02:27:57,360 --> 02:28:00,400 Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. But I 2636 02:28:00,400 --> 02:28:03,720 Speaker 2: don't know that this team the US is feeling, will 2637 02:28:03,720 --> 02:28:06,240 Speaker 2: be as dominant as teams in the past, even if 2638 02:28:06,280 --> 02:28:10,280 Speaker 2: they do prevail and get their three peat. Coming up, 2639 02:28:10,560 --> 02:28:13,560 Speaker 2: if you're an Angel fan, take heart, since naty redfan, 2640 02:28:13,760 --> 02:28:17,520 Speaker 2: take hart. If your team is under five hundred, take heart. 2641 02:28:17,959 --> 02:28:21,800 Speaker 2: Some of the greatest pen and chases began after July, 2642 02:28:22,040 --> 02:28:24,760 Speaker 2: when teams looked like they were out of it. Got 2643 02:28:24,760 --> 02:28:26,480 Speaker 2: a few to share with you. You get a kick 2644 02:28:26,480 --> 02:28:28,320 Speaker 2: out of I'm Bernie Fraddleck coming to you live from 2645 02:28:28,320 --> 02:28:31,279 Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Tirac dot com studios. 2646 02:28:31,360 --> 02:28:33,560 Speaker 2: Keep it locked. You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show 2647 02:28:33,600 --> 02:28:40,960 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. Wrapping it up on the Bernie 2648 02:28:41,000 --> 02:28:44,360 Speaker 2: Frattle Show or comedy live from the Las Vegas Fox 2649 02:28:44,360 --> 02:28:49,920 Speaker 2: Sports Radio Tyrac dot com studios. Before go any further, 2650 02:28:50,040 --> 02:28:53,039 Speaker 2: I want to thank my broadcast team back in Los Angeles. 2651 02:28:53,760 --> 02:28:58,080 Speaker 2: They've been with me since eleven pm Pacific on Saturday night, 2652 02:28:58,200 --> 02:29:02,600 Speaker 2: Mark Ramsey, our technical producer, Steve de Sager on all 2653 02:29:02,600 --> 02:29:06,600 Speaker 2: our updates, and of course in Patrick Sweka, guys turning 2654 02:29:06,640 --> 02:29:09,119 Speaker 2: the dials, keeping a song, dude together, diving in there 2655 02:29:09,160 --> 02:29:12,320 Speaker 2: on brand new fool and what my Name, and generally 2656 02:29:13,120 --> 02:29:17,280 Speaker 2: serving to contribute to all the hygiens. So you heard 2657 02:29:17,280 --> 02:29:19,920 Speaker 2: the prudential play of the day and it was Patrick 2658 02:29:20,640 --> 02:29:23,840 Speaker 2: sharing the Angels and the way they came back to 2659 02:29:23,879 --> 02:29:28,039 Speaker 2: beat Houston thirteen to twelve and was kind of a gritty, 2660 02:29:28,120 --> 02:29:32,120 Speaker 2: gutty victory that would have been a backbreaking loss had 2661 02:29:32,120 --> 02:29:36,360 Speaker 2: the Angels gotten beat again because they've really been scuffling 2662 02:29:36,400 --> 02:29:39,480 Speaker 2: the last two weeks, and of course Tony's not been 2663 02:29:39,520 --> 02:29:42,760 Speaker 2: the same on the mound, and Trout's been hurt, which 2664 02:29:42,879 --> 02:29:45,040 Speaker 2: led to the trade toks and things of that nature, 2665 02:29:45,120 --> 02:29:48,840 Speaker 2: and people worried that the Angels season is going right 2666 02:29:48,879 --> 02:29:54,000 Speaker 2: in the dumper. It's only July sixteenth. Now, why do 2667 02:29:54,080 --> 02:29:56,880 Speaker 2: I say that? What if I told you? Since nineteen 2668 02:29:56,959 --> 02:30:01,240 Speaker 2: ninety five, there have been eleven instances where a team 2669 02:30:01,320 --> 02:30:04,600 Speaker 2: was under five hundred at the All Star break and 2670 02:30:04,640 --> 02:30:07,000 Speaker 2: they came back to win their division. There have been 2671 02:30:07,080 --> 02:30:12,000 Speaker 2: nine additional instances where a team was under five hundred 2672 02:30:12,360 --> 02:30:16,240 Speaker 2: at the All Star break and they came back to 2673 02:30:16,320 --> 02:30:21,840 Speaker 2: be a wild card team, which sort of leads to 2674 02:30:21,920 --> 02:30:27,640 Speaker 2: some of the greatest and most unpredictable and sensational Pennant 2675 02:30:27,720 --> 02:30:32,560 Speaker 2: Race Pennant Chase comebacks of all time because every year 2676 02:30:33,480 --> 02:30:37,560 Speaker 2: baseball teams they duke it out and did the dog 2677 02:30:37,680 --> 02:30:40,240 Speaker 2: Days in July and August did really when these things 2678 02:30:40,240 --> 02:30:43,520 Speaker 2: are decided, you know, the first couple months of the year, 2679 02:30:43,600 --> 02:30:47,320 Speaker 2: everything's new, everything's fresh, no one's heard, you're not sore. 2680 02:30:48,000 --> 02:30:51,080 Speaker 2: You get to September. Many times it's close to being 2681 02:30:51,120 --> 02:30:54,080 Speaker 2: decided you're winding on the season. But July and August 2682 02:30:54,560 --> 02:30:57,080 Speaker 2: is when it's hot. And when the heat gets hot, 2683 02:30:57,160 --> 02:30:59,680 Speaker 2: it's hard to breathe. And can you be great when 2684 02:30:59,720 --> 02:31:04,080 Speaker 2: the you mistion the situation demands greatness? And there have 2685 02:31:04,200 --> 02:31:08,360 Speaker 2: been multiple teams. Take heart if you're an Angels fan. 2686 02:31:08,440 --> 02:31:11,200 Speaker 2: I'm just going to use them as an example. Take 2687 02:31:11,200 --> 02:31:14,960 Speaker 2: the nineteen seventy eight New York Yankees. Yankees trailed and 2688 02:31:15,000 --> 02:31:16,840 Speaker 2: this is a team that had won the World Series 2689 02:31:16,879 --> 02:31:20,080 Speaker 2: the year before, when Reggie Jackson famously hit the three 2690 02:31:20,080 --> 02:31:23,039 Speaker 2: home runs off three different pitchers on three pitches in 2691 02:31:23,120 --> 02:31:27,039 Speaker 2: the seventy seven World Series to win it. The Yankees 2692 02:31:27,080 --> 02:31:31,400 Speaker 2: the following season in seventy eight, they trailed by fourteen games. 2693 02:31:31,440 --> 02:31:34,400 Speaker 2: They trailed the Boston Red Sox by fourteen games in 2694 02:31:34,440 --> 02:31:37,440 Speaker 2: the Al East. There wasn't a wildcard back then. On 2695 02:31:37,560 --> 02:31:41,160 Speaker 2: July twentieth, the Yankees were fourteen games back. This is 2696 02:31:41,240 --> 02:31:44,720 Speaker 2: July twentieth, remember today's On July sixteenth, what de Bronch 2697 02:31:44,760 --> 02:31:47,840 Speaker 2: Bombers do. Somehow managed to go fifty two to twenty 2698 02:31:47,840 --> 02:31:50,720 Speaker 2: one down the stretch in the final seventy three games. 2699 02:31:51,160 --> 02:31:55,280 Speaker 2: Bucky Dent October second, nineteen seventy eight in the one 2700 02:31:55,360 --> 02:31:59,039 Speaker 2: game tiebreaker, hits a home run. One of the great stories, 2701 02:31:59,080 --> 02:32:02,680 Speaker 2: My buddy Dick shapp wi me Jeremy, same situation. Jeremy 2702 02:32:02,800 --> 02:32:05,560 Speaker 2: was only eight years old. Dick took him to the game. 2703 02:32:06,120 --> 02:32:10,000 Speaker 2: He was rummaging around the press box and finding out 2704 02:32:10,000 --> 02:32:12,680 Speaker 2: if someone had an extra ticket for a son. Sure enough, 2705 02:32:12,680 --> 02:32:14,360 Speaker 2: a guy named Bucky Dent says, hey, you can have 2706 02:32:14,440 --> 02:32:17,160 Speaker 2: extra one of mine. Jeremy goes to the game. Bucky 2707 02:32:17,240 --> 02:32:19,879 Speaker 2: Dent hits the home run. Can't make this stumb up. 2708 02:32:19,920 --> 02:32:22,440 Speaker 2: The Yankees actually go back to repeat win the World Series. 2709 02:32:22,520 --> 02:32:25,119 Speaker 2: There were fourteen games back on July twentieth. How about 2710 02:32:25,120 --> 02:32:29,480 Speaker 2: the nineteen ninety five Seattle Mariners, the kid Ken Griffey Jr. 2711 02:32:29,600 --> 02:32:32,879 Speaker 2: Still in his mid twenties. Then on August third, the 2712 02:32:32,959 --> 02:32:37,040 Speaker 2: Mariners trailed the California Angels by thirteen games on August third, 2713 02:32:37,959 --> 02:32:41,520 Speaker 2: and they were two games under five hundred on August third. 2714 02:32:42,040 --> 02:32:44,080 Speaker 2: What did Seattle do? They went thirty five and ten 2715 02:32:44,160 --> 02:32:46,920 Speaker 2: down the stretch. The Angels went twenty two and thirty three. 2716 02:32:47,200 --> 02:32:50,080 Speaker 2: Seattle wins the West. They get all the way to 2717 02:32:50,120 --> 02:32:53,440 Speaker 2: the Alcs. They lose to the Cleveland Indians. For a 2718 02:32:53,520 --> 02:32:57,680 Speaker 2: chance to go to the World Series. Remember this is 2719 02:32:57,800 --> 02:33:01,400 Speaker 2: August third in the Mariners trail by thirteen games. Now 2720 02:33:01,400 --> 02:33:03,280 Speaker 2: this one, you gotta go way back on the Cookie jar. 2721 02:33:03,640 --> 02:33:06,400 Speaker 2: Cubs eleven games back behind the New York Giants on 2722 02:33:06,480 --> 02:33:09,959 Speaker 2: July fifth, this is nineteen thirty five. They surge. They 2723 02:33:09,959 --> 02:33:12,600 Speaker 2: win sixty two of their last eighty four games. Somehow 2724 02:33:12,600 --> 02:33:14,720 Speaker 2: they win twenty one in a row. After Labor Day, 2725 02:33:15,160 --> 02:33:17,920 Speaker 2: the Cubs win the pennant and they go to the 2726 02:33:17,959 --> 02:33:21,000 Speaker 2: World Series the nineteen ninety three Atlanta Raiders. On this one, 2727 02:33:21,040 --> 02:33:24,840 Speaker 2: I remember well because the Braves were down by ten 2728 02:33:24,920 --> 02:33:27,840 Speaker 2: games on July twenty third, and they made a deal 2729 02:33:27,879 --> 02:33:30,879 Speaker 2: to get Fred crime Dog McGriff. They go forty nine 2730 02:33:30,920 --> 02:33:33,440 Speaker 2: and sixteen in their final sixty nine games. They pulled 2731 02:33:33,440 --> 02:33:35,680 Speaker 2: the NL West out over the Giants by one game 2732 02:33:36,080 --> 02:33:37,880 Speaker 2: on the second of the last day of the season. 2733 02:33:38,280 --> 02:33:41,879 Speaker 2: But remember on July twenty third, this is only July sixteenth, 2734 02:33:42,160 --> 02:33:45,680 Speaker 2: the Braves they were ten games back in the NL West. 2735 02:33:45,879 --> 02:33:50,080 Speaker 2: There was no wild card back then another one, you 2736 02:33:50,120 --> 02:33:51,920 Speaker 2: gotta go way back on the Cookie jar. In nineteen 2737 02:33:51,959 --> 02:33:55,280 Speaker 2: sixty four, the Saint Louis Cardinals, they had Bob Gibson 2738 02:33:56,040 --> 02:33:58,680 Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. But as late as August twenty fourth, 2739 02:33:59,480 --> 02:34:02,280 Speaker 2: the Cardinals were eleven games out. But they go twenty 2740 02:34:02,280 --> 02:34:04,640 Speaker 2: eight and eleven in the final thirty nine games to 2741 02:34:04,800 --> 02:34:07,879 Speaker 2: capture the pennant. You really want to go back in 2742 02:34:07,920 --> 02:34:10,879 Speaker 2: the cookie jar. How about the nineteen fourteen Boston Braves. 2743 02:34:11,240 --> 02:34:13,960 Speaker 2: They were called the Miracle Braves. They were fifteen games 2744 02:34:13,959 --> 02:34:17,279 Speaker 2: out of first place at the All Star break fifteen games. 2745 02:34:17,959 --> 02:34:19,920 Speaker 2: They go sixty eight to nineteen the second half of 2746 02:34:19,959 --> 02:34:22,760 Speaker 2: the season, win the pennant by ten games. Now one 2747 02:34:22,760 --> 02:34:26,240 Speaker 2: of the lovable teams the sixty nine Miracle Mets. On 2748 02:34:26,280 --> 02:34:31,920 Speaker 2: August fourteenth, the sixty nine Mets trailed the Chicago Cubs 2749 02:34:32,120 --> 02:34:34,960 Speaker 2: by ten games in the NL East. They finished this 2750 02:34:35,040 --> 02:34:37,920 Speaker 2: season on a thirty eight and eleven run. They allowed 2751 02:34:37,920 --> 02:34:41,320 Speaker 2: the Miracle Mets to capture the East and run away 2752 02:34:41,320 --> 02:34:45,400 Speaker 2: with the East by eight games. There weren't even divisional playoffs. 2753 02:34:45,400 --> 02:34:47,240 Speaker 2: Then the Mets go on to claim the World Series 2754 02:34:47,280 --> 02:34:50,760 Speaker 2: in five games. They beat the Baltimore Oriols, a very 2755 02:34:50,800 --> 02:34:54,480 Speaker 2: good Baltimore Orioles team. This is not a recent phenomenon. 2756 02:34:54,600 --> 02:34:56,200 Speaker 2: You want to go back on the cookie jar again. 2757 02:34:56,560 --> 02:35:01,199 Speaker 2: About nineteen thirty. The Saint Louis Cardinals for twelve games 2758 02:35:01,520 --> 02:35:05,080 Speaker 2: out of first place on August ninth. This is only 2759 02:35:05,160 --> 02:35:09,040 Speaker 2: July sixteenth, only one game over five hundred. Yeah, they 2760 02:35:09,040 --> 02:35:11,480 Speaker 2: got hot. You have to get hot. They were thirty 2761 02:35:11,560 --> 02:35:14,600 Speaker 2: nine and ten in their final forty nine games. They 2762 02:35:14,640 --> 02:35:18,640 Speaker 2: surpassed the Cubs win by two games. Again, back in 2763 02:35:18,720 --> 02:35:21,560 Speaker 2: nineteen forty two, Cardinals did the same thing they'd done 2764 02:35:21,600 --> 02:35:25,120 Speaker 2: twelve years earlier. They're way off the lead in the 2765 02:35:25,200 --> 02:35:28,240 Speaker 2: National League. This time they trailed Saint Louis. Check that 2766 02:35:28,360 --> 02:35:32,039 Speaker 2: Saint Louis trailed by ten games on August fifth. What 2767 02:35:32,120 --> 02:35:34,520 Speaker 2: do they do? They go forty four and nine down 2768 02:35:34,560 --> 02:35:38,320 Speaker 2: the stretch. They overtake the Dodgers for the National League crown. 2769 02:35:38,959 --> 02:35:42,600 Speaker 2: Notice these dates. And finally, perhaps the most famous one 2770 02:35:42,600 --> 02:35:47,560 Speaker 2: of all the nineteen fifty one New York Giants. You 2771 02:35:47,600 --> 02:35:52,480 Speaker 2: ever heard of Russ Hodges the Giants, the famous radio broadcaster. 2772 02:35:53,080 --> 02:35:54,960 Speaker 2: If you close your eyes, you can probably still hear 2773 02:35:55,000 --> 02:35:57,760 Speaker 2: them saying, the Giants win the Pennant. The Giants win 2774 02:35:57,840 --> 02:36:01,720 Speaker 2: the Pennant. But before Bobby Bompson hit that famous home 2775 02:36:01,800 --> 02:36:05,920 Speaker 2: run off Rath Bronca, which went on to be called 2776 02:36:06,080 --> 02:36:09,200 Speaker 2: the Shot heard around the world, a walk off win, 2777 02:36:09,600 --> 02:36:13,240 Speaker 2: putting him in the World Series just a month before. 2778 02:36:14,080 --> 02:36:17,160 Speaker 2: Month and a half before, the Giants trailed the Dodgers 2779 02:36:17,160 --> 02:36:21,880 Speaker 2: by thirteen games on August twelfth. Again, this is only 2780 02:36:22,120 --> 02:36:25,959 Speaker 2: July sixteenth. On August twelfth, the Giants trailed the Dodgers 2781 02:36:26,000 --> 02:36:30,000 Speaker 2: by thirteen games, caught fire, went thirty eight and seven 2782 02:36:30,040 --> 02:36:32,320 Speaker 2: in their final forty five games, forced the one game 2783 02:36:32,360 --> 02:36:36,240 Speaker 2: playoff with Brooklynd. Bobby Thompson hits the shot herd around 2784 02:36:36,280 --> 02:36:40,000 Speaker 2: the world and the Giants win. The Pennant Angels fans, 2785 02:36:40,440 --> 02:36:44,640 Speaker 2: Shohio Tani fans, Mike Trout fans take heart. It might 2786 02:36:44,680 --> 02:36:47,400 Speaker 2: not happen. The odds are against it, but it's happened 2787 02:36:47,400 --> 02:36:51,200 Speaker 2: so many times before. Remember Hope springs a Turnlin Baseball, 2788 02:36:51,600 --> 02:36:54,280 Speaker 2: even in July. It's gonna do it for the Bernie 2789 02:36:54,280 --> 02:36:56,920 Speaker 2: Fraddles show back on these airwaves next Friday at eleven. 2790 02:36:57,440 --> 02:37:00,040 Speaker 2: Keep it Locked up. Next the Great Andy Furman on 2791 02:37:00,080 --> 02:37:01,320 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.