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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in Lake Kick is Live. It is

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Speaker 1: Thursday night. It is April thirtieth, the U of R.

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Speaker 1: Laura twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Where am I.

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Speaker 1: I'm not in my garage, I'm not on anyone's back porch.

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Speaker 1: I'm in the studio, just at a very remote corner

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Speaker 1: of the studio because we had one of those good

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Speaker 1: old fashioned quarantine power surges that you found out what

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Speaker 1: about fifteen twenty minutes ago about colins. So we are

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Speaker 1: making the best with this ill lit and rarely visited

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Speaker 1: corner of the studio. But I digress. Don't worry about

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Speaker 1: the quality of the shot. We've got a jam packed

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Speaker 1: show tonight, and you know, good andwell what we're gonna

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Speaker 1: lead with in just a second, judging by the amount

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Speaker 1: of citrus emojis that I saw in the live chat

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Speaker 1: before we went on air, you know, good and well

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Speaker 1: what we're gonna lead with Tennessee is on fire, to

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Speaker 1: the point where, even though it's intangible in nature, if

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Speaker 1: you were to touch their recruiting I think you could

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Speaker 1: suffer a second degree.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that tonight.

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Speaker 1: Maybe some changes, maybe some updates to the college football calendar.

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Speaker 1: Could things start on time. If everyone's not on board,

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Speaker 1: does it matter? Is synchronicity. That's the big keyword I've

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Speaker 1: been throwing out to you, and so we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about that. I'm also going to give you some

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Speaker 1: pretty eye opening numbers that shouldn't be shocking to you

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Speaker 1: about recruiting rankings, star rankings, and how anyone who tells

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Speaker 1: you they don't.

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Speaker 2: Matter is well, for lack of a better term, a fool.

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Speaker 1: And that includes folks at national networks who like to

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Speaker 1: take shots on Twitter. That'll be addressed tonight. And a

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Speaker 1: couple of your questions as well. If you missed it,

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Speaker 1: chat right now, And so I'm going to do that

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Speaker 2: Just send me them, Just give you me your.

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Speaker 1: Name, let me know what you want answered, and I'll

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Speaker 1: try and answer them for you.

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Speaker 2: But we had a lot of fun on that.

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Speaker 1: I really actually got into that the other night and

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Speaker 1: I recorded it one time and it didn't record, so

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Speaker 1: I had to do it all over again.

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Speaker 2: That's how you know I had fun doing it, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, So let's let's talk about what really is at

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Speaker 1: the forefront today. Remember the focus When we were on

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Speaker 1: air Sunday over in the corner that we normally sit

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Speaker 1: in in the studio, we were talking about Tennessee recruiting,

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Speaker 1: and I told you how big a deal it was

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Speaker 1: that Dylan Brooks from little tiny Roanoak, Alabama had committed

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Speaker 1: to the University of Tennessee. That was a five star

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Speaker 1: it is a big deal. And since that time, you

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Speaker 1: know what Tennessee's gone on to do. They've gone on

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Speaker 1: to land five kids in as many days, culminating today

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Speaker 1: with the announcement of Terrence Lewis, another five star linebacker,

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Speaker 1: of Tennessee. This is, again, can't be overstated, a huge

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Speaker 1: get for Tennessee and Jeremy Pruitt.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna stay at the obvious. Okay, this is

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Speaker 1: Any kid who is rated like this and who has

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Speaker 2: Possibly challenge for playing time at Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: It as an upgrade to the roster every time you

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Speaker 1: just a snapshot of Tennessee recruiting right now.

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Speaker 2: They are blake and you have missed it.

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Speaker 1: Number three in the nation in the twenty four to

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. I know these kids are committed

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Speaker 1: I continue, that's the fifth commit this week. I think

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Speaker 1: So you got Dylan Brooks and that was the commitment Sunday,

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Speaker 2: That's a kid out of South Carolina.

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Speaker 1: And think about what we're talking about here when you

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Speaker 2: But what have we talked about on this show.

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Speaker 1: When we talk about Tennessee recruiting, we talked about the

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Speaker 1: fact that Jeremy Prewitt, with the six hour radius around

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Speaker 1: the University of Tennessee, being able to ge into pretty

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Speaker 1: so Jeremy Prewitt's a guy who could maybe get into

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Speaker 2: They went into Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Like I told you, they're starting to make end roads

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Speaker 2: What's Tennessee got to sell?

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Speaker 1: Right now, It's going to sound like I'm about to

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Speaker 1: to Tennessee. Considering what they're doing right now, what's Tennessee

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Speaker 1: selling draft type? They just sent two kids to the draft,

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Speaker 1: second round, seventh round. That's really nothing to write home about.

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Speaker 1: There's g five programs that did a whole lot better

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Speaker 2: Are Are they selling championships? They haven't won won this millennium? Guys?

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Speaker 1: Are they selling big wins over their rivals? I looked

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Speaker 1: it up. Plug ears for a second. If you're in Knoxville, Florida, Georgia, Alabama,

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Speaker 1: the past decade and a half, which is basically the

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Speaker 1: entire lifespan of a recruit. Right now, last fifteen years,

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Speaker 1: they are seven and thirty eight versus those three teams.

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Speaker 2: What are they selling?

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Speaker 1: All they're selling right now is something intangible in nature.

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Speaker 1: They're selling a vision, they're selling hope, they're selling promise

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Speaker 1: for the future. They don't have anything tangible to sell, guys,

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Speaker 1: So now imagine this, Imagine how much more real this field?

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Speaker 1: And when I say this, I mean the threat of

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Speaker 1: call it what it is. It is their division and

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Speaker 1: really is Georgia's division until someone else knocks them off.

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Speaker 1: But what happens at Tennessee was pull an upset over

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Speaker 1: if they're a challenger. What if all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: you log onto a website, click on college football, click

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Speaker 1: on SEC standings, click on division standings, and in October

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Speaker 2: They're challenging.

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Speaker 1: What if you click on college football playoff rankings and

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Speaker 1: there's Tennessee at number nine, number seven. What happens all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden if some tangible results start rolling off

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Speaker 1: the assembly line, if they're able to start recruiting like

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Speaker 1: Georgia State and Brigham Young last year at home, the

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Speaker 1: coaching staff seemed to be on the hot seat. Midway

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Speaker 1: imagine how much better that recruiting effort could be. I

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Speaker 1: was in the chat actually earlier when we were trying

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Speaker 1: Andrew on Twitter asked, how did Tennessee adapt to digital

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Speaker 1: they're on Zoom, they're in someone's DMS. They don't have

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Speaker 1: a technological advantage over anyone else. But what did I

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Speaker 1: tell you? As soon as we went under quarantine, as

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Speaker 1: soon as drastic measures had to be taken, we were

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Speaker 2: Of course, it ends up being.

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Pruitt and the technical wizard that we all know

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Speaker 1: him to be. But it's not the head coach. Who

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Speaker 1: do you have working in your graphics departments? Who do

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Speaker 1: you have working in your tech departments? Who do you

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Speaker 1: your marketing departments? Normally you know who these are. These

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Speaker 1: are not seven or six figure paid head coaches, assistant coaches,

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Speaker 1: some people whose names you hear about three or four

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Speaker 1: years from now that have been just killing it in Knoxville,

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Speaker 1: and they've been doing doing things that are a pretty

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Speaker 1: next level and they've been ahead of the curve, and

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Speaker 1: they've been doing whatever it takes to catch a seventeen

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Speaker 1: year old and eighteen year old kid's eyes, and it's

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Speaker 1: working right now. Now, here's the next step. The next

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Speaker 1: step is holding on to these kids. And then the

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Speaker 1: third step is when the season finally gets here, all

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Speaker 1: is positive momentum you've built up in the offseason, what

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Speaker 1: is it worth? I mean, you can't afford to start

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Speaker 1: another year likely to did last year. But Harrison Bailey,

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Speaker 1: for example, the quarterback right now, what if he's your

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Speaker 1: about tangible results. How about this for a tangible result.

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Speaker 1: What if I'm watching Tennessee in Week seven and Jim

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Speaker 1: Cheney has a quarterback that he can work with, and

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Speaker 1: and an offense that looks on par with what some.

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Speaker 1: For example, the odds of being a first round pick

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Speaker 1: in the last draft, the twenty twenty NFL Draft. If

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Speaker 1: you were a five star kid coming out of high school,

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Speaker 1: it turns out your odds were one in five of

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Speaker 1: going in the first round. If you were a four star,

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Speaker 1: your odds were one in twenty one. Stars won't matter. Continuing,

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Speaker 1: if you were a three star, stars don't matter, one

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Speaker 1: in one hundred and eighty four. If you were a

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Speaker 1: two star or a one star, your odds were one

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Speaker 1: in like seventeen hundred point being stars very much matter.

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Speaker 2: It became in vogue when recruiting blew up.

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Speaker 1: When the recruiting industry blew up, and this got really big,

449
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Speaker 1: and everyone started talking about kids within the context of

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Speaker 1: how many stars do they have next to their name?

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Speaker 1: It became really in vogue for someone who wanted to

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Speaker 1: carry the intellectual superiority in the room to say, if

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Speaker 1: stars don't matter. You know how I know because I

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Speaker 1: know this kid who was ready three stars one time?

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Speaker 1: Who went onto the NFL?

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Speaker 2: Cool? What do the numbers say? Like?

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Speaker 1: Do we understand percentages? Do we understand odds? Do you

458
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Speaker 1: understand how any of this works? So our Bud Elliott

459
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Speaker 1: put out a really good piece that he probably was

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Speaker 1: able to write months ahead of time, because everyone knows

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Speaker 1: what the popular argument's going to be coming out of

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Speaker 1: the NFL Draft, and sure enough they take debate do

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Speaker 1: the I guess high school interns that are running the

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Speaker 1: social media feed for said national entity.

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Speaker 2: I want you to listen to these key numbers again.

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Speaker 2: There's no opinion here. These are just data.

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Speaker 1: They don't really care about how you feel about it.

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Speaker 1: Four and five stars made up just seven percent of recruits,

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Speaker 1: yet sixty six percent of the first round picks. Four

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Speaker 1: and five star recruits were twenty nine times more likely

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Speaker 1: to be number one picks than other D one recruits.

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty first round it had the highest average star

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Speaker 1: rating of any draft in history. The average star rating

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Speaker 1: coming out of high school for kids who were drafted

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Speaker 1: in the first round of this draft was three point

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Speaker 1: seven five stars. That is astronomically high. I want you

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Speaker 1: to remember the context here. You're not born a four star.

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Speaker 1: You're not born a five star. There are tens of

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Speaker 1: thousands of kids who play high school any given year,

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Speaker 1: and it is up to, to be honest with you,

481
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Speaker 1: a pretty small number on a ratings council like at

482
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Speaker 1: twenty four to seven sports, to comb the entire country,

483
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Speaker 1: watch scout grade and assign a star rating. To understand

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Speaker 1: how good this process has become is to understand how

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Speaker 1: significant these numbers are. There was only one player rated

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Speaker 1: two star or less out of high school who was

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Speaker 1: taken first round this year.

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Speaker 2: That's a new record. Again, four and five star kids.

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Speaker 1: They made up just seven percent of recruits, but sixty

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Speaker 1: six percent of first round picks this year. Translation, they

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Speaker 1: are doing an awesome job at rating four star five

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Speaker 1: star kids.

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't mean that you don't have a path to.

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Speaker 1: The draft or the first round or the Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame if you're a three star kid. It just means

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Speaker 1: there are other factors in play which circles around to

497
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Speaker 1: what I actually wanted to talk about, and that is

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Speaker 1: what a recruiting ranking is. I think to nail down

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Speaker 1: what a recruiting rating is and to wipe out about

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Speaker 1: ninety percent of the garbage that goes into quote unquote

501
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Speaker 1: debating this stuff. You have to understand what the rating

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Speaker 1: itself is. Now I'm giving you my interpretation here. This

503
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Speaker 1: is not Bud Elliott, this is not Barton Simmons. I

504
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Speaker 1: listen to the guy's talk all the time. I listen

505
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Speaker 1: in on the recruiting calls and the rating councils meetings

506
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Speaker 1: all the time because it's fascinating to me. I don't

507
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Speaker 1: even take part in the conversation. I'm not on the council.

508
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Speaker 1: I just listen in because I want context. It gets

509
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Speaker 1: pretty vicious. It's like a knife fight in a conference

510
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Speaker 1: call setting sometimes about how thorough they want to get

511
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Speaker 1: in evaluating these guys. There are so many misconceptions I

512
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Speaker 1: used to hear before I came to work here. One is, well,

513
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Speaker 1: you know, once they see an offer sheet that starts

514
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Speaker 1: beefing up, they got to bump the kids rating up.

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Speaker 1: Garbage doesn't happen. Well, you know, once a kid commits

516
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Speaker 1: to this school, then they got to bump the rating.

517
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Speaker 1: Garbage doesn't happen, flat out doesn't happen. In fact, it's

518
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Speaker 1: such garbage that in the council themselves, they'll sit there

519
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Speaker 1: and be aware of that stigma and be worried about

520
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Speaker 1: bumping a kid because they think they're going to have

521
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Speaker 1: to deal with that.

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Speaker 2: That's how thorough they are. But let's think about what

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Speaker 2: a recruiting rating is.

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Speaker 1: A recruiting ranking, to me, has always been a raw

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Speaker 1: talent based rating of a kid based on who they

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Speaker 1: are right now, what we may project them to be.

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Speaker 2: But it's all based on what we have to go.

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Speaker 1: On right now, right this second, when they're a junior

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Speaker 1: or a senior in high school.

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Speaker 2: That's not important, it seems to me.

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Speaker 1: What's more important is to talk about what a recruiting

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Speaker 1: ranking is not. I wrote down some things. A recruiting

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Speaker 1: ranking is not a psychological profile of a kid. If

534
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Speaker 1: there are serious potential character concerns from the neck up,

535
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Speaker 1: it doesn't show up on their huddle film. It doesn't

536
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Speaker 1: show up when you go watch them at the All

537
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Speaker 1: American Games. It doesn't show up when you go watch

538
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Speaker 1: them at a seven on seven tournament. I don't know

539
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Speaker 1: if you have flawed character. Okay, reality is that could

540
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Speaker 1: very much end up with you not maximizing your potential

541
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Speaker 1: at the next level. Is that a recruiting bust? Is

542
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Speaker 1: that a star rankings bust or is that just stuff

543
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Speaker 1: you could have never known. It is not an intelligence test,

544
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Speaker 1: it is not an aptitude test.

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Speaker 2: It's not a.

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Speaker 1: Prediction of whether you'll be able to avoid freak injuries

547
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Speaker 1: in high school that could or college that could derail

548
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Speaker 1: your career. And a recruiting ranking is not a magic

549
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Speaker 1: eight ball that can let everyone know how you're going

550
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Speaker 1: to handle the social change that comes in the transition

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Speaker 1: from high school to college. And my point is I

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Speaker 1: just pointed out a lot of things that could potentially

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Speaker 1: derail a high four star kids career. If any of

554
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Speaker 1: those happen, are they recruiting busts? When we look at

555
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 1: kids who don't pan out rated five stars, four stars, etc.

556
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Speaker 1: How many times do you trace it back and look

557
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Speaker 1: at them in high school and say, oh, they were

558
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Speaker 1: just overrated.

559
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Speaker 2: Look at that they were a model citizen in college,

560
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Speaker 2: They never suffered major injury, they kept their head on straight,

561
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Speaker 2: kept their nose cleaned, they were given tons of opportunity,

562
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Speaker 2: and they just never fulfilled what we thought their potential was.

563
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Speaker 2: That happens, I would argue five to one, ten to

564
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Speaker 2: one ratio more times than not, it's well, kid didn't

565
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Speaker 2: keep his nose clean. Well, he had injury.

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Speaker 1: I mean, who could have seen back to back acl

567
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Speaker 1: tears coming in consecutive years. Well, the transition from a

568
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Speaker 1: small town to a really big university. He just didn't

569
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Speaker 1: handle it well, had some character issues that we couldn't

570
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Speaker 1: have seen. If a kid washes out because of those reasons,

571
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Speaker 1: to me, it's not a recruiting bust. It's never been

572
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Speaker 1: a recruiting ranking bust. You just need to understand when

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Speaker 1: you see a star rating next to a kid's name,

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Speaker 1: that star rating doesn't represent one hundred percent of the

575
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Speaker 1: formula of what it's going to take for him to

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Speaker 1: succeed at.

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Speaker 2: The college level.

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Speaker 1: It does have a lot to do with talent, skill

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Speaker 1: or maybe raw intangibles measurables and talents that you think

580
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Speaker 1: and you project will translate into skills that can make

581
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Speaker 1: you a lead at the next level. It's not an

582
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Speaker 1: aptitude test, it's not a character test, it's not a

583
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Speaker 1: social test. So there are a lot more things that

584
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Speaker 1: go into making you fulfill that potential in college than

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00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: just talent based ratings. But yet that's what you have

586
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Speaker 1: to go on if you're trying to rate kids coming

587
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Speaker 1: out of high school. So it really aggravates me when

588
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Speaker 1: folks talk about recruiting bust and star ratings bust and

589
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: you never hear the context about what went into said

590
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Speaker 1: player being a bust at the next level. I'd also

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Speaker 1: encourage you, by the way, to look up buzz Peace

592
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Speaker 1: on that. And I'm going to talk some more about

593
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Speaker 1: this on the Sunday Show. But Chris Hummer put out

594
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Speaker 1: a fantastic article, a really deep dive earlier today.

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Speaker 2: I think it was posted.

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Speaker 1: If you go to twenty four seven sports dot com,

597
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Speaker 1: you'll be able to look it up on Once these

598
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: programs get kids on campus, which ones are investing in

599
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: all sorts of different areas to maximize their potential and

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Speaker 1: to develop in other words, who is developing the talent

601
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Speaker 1: the best? Once they get it on campus, you won't

602
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Speaker 1: be too shocked to know who's at the top of

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Speaker 1: the list. Let's get to some questions, and then I

604
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Speaker 1: want to give you a few programming notes before we

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Speaker 1: go off the air tonight. Butch asked me, he's actually

606
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Speaker 1: asked a couple of times. I got to get to

607
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Speaker 1: this question. If you're a five star, you can think

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Speaker 1: along with me actually on this one. You're a five star,

609
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Speaker 1: let's just pretend you have offers from all one hundred

610
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Speaker 1: and thirty schools, FBS schools. Everyone's gonna let you take

611
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Speaker 1: an official visit. Where are you taking your visits? So

612
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Speaker 1: a lot of times the reason I say everyone's going

613
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: to allow you to everyone wants to visit Hawaii. But

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Speaker 1: Hawaii's gotten smart to that. So unless they think they

615
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Speaker 1: got a real shot at you. You know, if I'm

616
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Speaker 1: Dylan Brooks, I'm a five star kid from Roanoke, Alabama,

617
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Speaker 1: I'm probably.

618
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 2: Not going to Hawaii. So if I call them up,

619
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Speaker 2: they're probably saying, thanks, but no thanks. You can come

620
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 2: out here. You just gonna have to buy your own ticket.

621
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Speaker 2: But if that's off the table, I'll tell you where

622
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Speaker 2: I'm going. I'm going to Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: This is a no order. I'm going to Ohio State

624
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Speaker 1: because I want to visit the standard bearer in the

625
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Speaker 1: Big Ten. I want to be around Ryan Day and

626
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: his staff. They are obviously they're not doing something right.

627
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: They're doing everything right. I don't think they're doing anything

628
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: wrong right now, and so i'd love to visit that.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to just take in that whole scene.

630
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Speaker 1: I would love to visit Hawaii for no reasons that

631
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: really relate to where I'm going to play my college football.

632
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: I'd love to go to Alabama because I'd love to

633
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: be recruited and spend time with the greatest coach, in

634
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: my opinion, in the history of college football. I would

635
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: love to visit Oregon because I love Mario Christobal and

636
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: because from a facility standpoint, that place is probably unique

637
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: to just about anywhere else in America. It's a very

638
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: unique situation. It's a different setting in Eugene, and to me,

639
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: that's the top program on the West Coast right now too.

640
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Speaker 1: And I'd love to go to LSU. I'd love to

641
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Speaker 1: go to LSU because all we did last year on

642
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: Lake Kick, all I had to do was just a

643
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: few really positive videos about LSU and they adopted us

644
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Speaker 1: as their own. And when we went to games last

645
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: year in Baton Rouge, all the food that you could

646
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Speaker 1: ever want. I'm pretty sure I could have spent a

647
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: month with someone's house down there. All I had to

648
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: do was ask, and so I figure, Oh I did

649
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: was start a YouTube channel. What if I could what

650
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: if I could throw for three thousand yards down there?

651
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Speaker 1: How would they treat me on an official visit. How

652
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Speaker 1: would this guy? How would ed Orzeron if you're watching

653
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Speaker 1: on YouTube? How would he act if I got him

654
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: in a private setting and I could just I just

655
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Speaker 1: like to ask him questions. I would like to talk

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Speaker 1: to ed Orgeron in my recruiting visit about nothing to

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Speaker 1: do with football. I'd like to ask him about his

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Speaker 1: mom Coco. I like to ask him about all these

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Speaker 1: stories that you hear about him that you don't quite

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Speaker 1: know if they're true, and people in a professional setting

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Speaker 1: are a little bit too scared to ask him. You

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Speaker 1: talked to high school coaches, for example, Talk to some

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Speaker 1: high school coaches, the ones who have been with Orseron

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Speaker 1: for example, in off the record settings, and the stories

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Speaker 1: that he tells, those are the kind of stories that

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Speaker 1: I love to hear. So those are the visits that

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Speaker 1: I would take Butcher if I could take five and

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Speaker 1: I had no limit on where I could go. Metcraft

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Speaker 1: asked best wide receiver in college football this year. Jalen

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Speaker 1: Waddle would be my guest for that one. And if

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Speaker 1: it's not him, Jamar Chase. That's one of those situations

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Speaker 1: where if you argue with me, I'll be happy to

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Speaker 1: let you take the one that you're arguing for, and

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Speaker 1: I'll take the leftovers. Jalen Waddle, though, is very very good. However,

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Speaker 1: so is mister Chase. I'm standing actually about ten feet

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Speaker 1: from where that catch happened right there. So here's what's

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Speaker 1: happening right now. What's happening, well, literally, what's happening is

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Speaker 1: we're sitting in the corner of the studio that we

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Speaker 1: never visit because we had a power surge, but Colin

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Speaker 1: somehow got us on air. So if you want to,

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Speaker 1: you can give Colin a round of applause because he's

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Speaker 1: the only reason that we had a show tonight. However,

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Speaker 1: if we can get things fixed for Sunday, we'll be

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Speaker 1: back over there. If not, we'll be up here. The

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Speaker 1: Lake Kick podcast did really good numbers the other day,

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Speaker 1: I'm told. And what we're doing is every Late Kick

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Speaker 1: Live show that we do, including the one right now,

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Speaker 1: gets transferred into podcast form. If you want to listen

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Speaker 1: to the audio only version, you can do that. But

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Speaker 1: what we've also done is I'm taking your questions as

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Speaker 1: you email them to me. You see the email addressed

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Speaker 1: there on the bottom of the screen. You can tweet

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Speaker 1: at me, and I would appreciate a follow. A lot

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Speaker 1: of you followed me on Twitter, just more communal that way.

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Speaker 1: You could also hit us up obviously in the comment

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Speaker 1: section or in the live chat section, and I try

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Speaker 1: and aggregate as many as possible. And I'm recording a

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Speaker 1: separate podcast, Late Kick Extra every Tuesday for a Wednesday release.

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Speaker 1: And it's just the reason I like it is because

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Speaker 1: I can format shows all day long. But really, all

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Speaker 1: I want to do is talk about what you want

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Speaker 1: to talk about. One of the most golden rules in

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Speaker 1: our business that so many people violate is they make

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Speaker 1: the show for themselves. I don't make this show for me.

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Speaker 1: If I made the show for me, it would probably

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Speaker 1: bore you because I would talk about the same four

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Speaker 1: or five things, and some of them won't even be

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Speaker 1: football related. I make it for you. What's the easiest

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Speaker 1: way to make sure you're happy with that? Let you

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Speaker 1: make it for yourself, and then I'll just try and

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Speaker 1: execute it.

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Speaker 2: I'll try not to screw it up.

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Speaker 1: And so that's what I would very much appreciate if

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Speaker 1: you guys did just hit me with the questions.

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Speaker 2: I got so many of them last week. So however

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Speaker 2: long we.

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Speaker 1: Have to make that podcast, if we start having to

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Speaker 1: do two a week, whatever the case may be, we'll

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Speaker 1: get them all answered. And so I really appreciate that

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Speaker 1: a lot of you gave us those five star reviews,

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Speaker 1: and those subscriptions to the podcast itself, the written reviews,

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Speaker 1: all that stuff really helps us out more than you

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Speaker 1: could ever imagine.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back here.

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Speaker 1: Sunday night, same time, seven eastern, eight eastern, seventh Central.

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Speaker 1: Also probably gonna have a sneak peak of a big

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Speaker 1: feature that we have coming Monday, and I'll have that

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Speaker 1: for you by the time the Sunday show rolls around.

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Speaker 2: Little interview we have lined up.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna record it probably tomorrow, so that falls through.

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Speaker 1: Forgod I ever said anything, but I think we got

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Speaker 1: that lined up tomorrow until then, for Colin getting us

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Speaker 1: on air miraculously, if we're aaron. For everyone else with

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Speaker 1: the podcast team, I'm Josh Pate. Thanks for watching Late Kick,

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Speaker 1: and we will see you back here Sunday night,