WEBVTT - Let’s Help Mamas Make More Milk w/ Krystal Duhaney 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:05.520 Welcome to Katie's Crib, a production of Shonda Land Audio 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:09.119 in partnership with I Heart Radio. There are videos online 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:11.920 of like had a hand express right, because I remember 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:14.520 being like, what am I doing? Am I a cow? 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:17.599 A lot of us just squeeze, So it's not squeezing. 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:19.160 You're gonna squeeze all day. You're going to get a 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:29.040 much out. Hi, everybody, and welcome back to Katie's Crib. 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:32.199 I want to be one of the first, if you 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:36.440 haven't heard yet, to say Happy National Breastfeeding Awareness Month. 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:40.559 That's right, folks, it is National Breastfeeding Awareness Month, and 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:43.839 at the end of the month it is Black Breastfeeding 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:47.800 Awareness Week. You guys know from listening to Katie's Crib 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:51.640 that breastfeeding was literally one of the hardest, most challenging, 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:56.400 craziest wild rides around motherhood that I've ever had, and 0:00:56.480 --> 0:01:00.120 so I love doing episodes about it. And here to 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:03.440 honor National Breastfeeding Awareness Month and Black Breastfeeding Awareness Week, 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:08.080 we have Crystal do Haney. She is freaking awesome. She's 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:11.680 an educator on all breastfeeding issues. She has a registered nurse, 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:15.280 she's an International Board certified lactation counselor. She's a breastfeeding 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:18.560 mommy of two and she's got another baby on the way. Guys. 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:21.480 She's the founder of Milky Mama, which is an awesome company. 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:25.600 It makes delicious lactation treats designed to promote breast milk production. 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:29.160 I eat them on the regular. They are freaking delicious, 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:32.440 and her company is incredible. It's dedicated to educating, supporting, 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:35.600 and empowering parents to have the best breastfeeding journey possible. 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:39.640 She's here and she's awesome. Please welcome to Katie's crib. 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:44.959 Crystal du Hainey. Could you be cooler? Stop? You make 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:49.520 cookies and delicious treats that help us breastfeed our children, 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:53.400 and you put your money where your mouth is, and 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:58.520 you literally provide true help and social justice in an 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:02.720 area that is highly lacking in terms of black lactation 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:06.640 consultants and and helping black women to breastfeed. This is 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:10.560 all incredible. And when does your child do October? So 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:13.120 I'm doing October about six months along. So if you 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:17.400 hear me like burping or making weird noises, please don't 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:20.720 mind me. I'm just six months pregnant at the time 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:23.080 of this recording. We will not judge you that you 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:26.560 should ever feel that you found a safe space to burp, 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:30.960 to complain about your acid reflux, you're swelling ankles, etcetera, etcetera. 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:34.400 It is here. Tell me about your personal breastfeeding journey 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:38.120 with your first two and how it pushed you to 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:42.120 create milky Mama. Okay, that's a tough story. So with 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:45.800 my son, he's nine, by the way, when I was 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:48.399 pregnant with him, I was a nurse on the floor 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:51.160 and I felt like I knew as much as I 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:54.480 could as a health care professional, and I my doctor 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:56.640 just would say, hey, you know, breastfeeding is good, but 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:59.840 that was really it. I didn't have any classes. Everyone 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:02.920 that I saw on like in the brochures, was like 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:06.520 smiling gloriously with this baby that was just latched perfectly, 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:08.880 and I was like, oh, it's gonna be easy. I 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:13.519 can do that. It's natural, right, So outcomes the baby. 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:16.000 Then the nurses are like, here's your baby, feature baby, 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:19.040 you know, keep this thing alive, and I'm just like, okay, 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:24.119 no pressure, sure, no problem, I do this all the time, right, 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:29.400 So latched the baby on super painful. But everywhere else 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:31.720 that I had read or had heard. You know, it 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:34.120 was like, oh, it hurts in the beginning, but it's okay. 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.520 And I'm like, okay, you know problem we went home, 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:41.600 you know, screaming baby, nipples falling off. Basically I get it. 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:45.920 And none of my family, you know, it is maybe 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:50.480 not an unknown fact, but a lot of black families 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:53.880 in America don't breastfeater, don't have generations of breastfeaters to 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.560 get knowledge from. So no one in my family had 0:03:56.560 --> 0:04:01.040 breastfed before, so asking my family wasn't an option and 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:04.000 you're good no. So when I went to my provider, 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:05.960 I was like, hey, I'm really struggling, you know, I 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:08.480 don't feel like this is normal. What can I do? 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:11.640 And he said, just give formula. And before I go 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:15.520 into that even further, there's nothing wrong with formula. Like 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:18.840 I said, no one in my family breastfed. I wasn't breastfed. 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:22.080 I care not, Okay, I think, yes you did. And 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.839 also we have to put out there. I keep finding 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:27.360 moms who are breastfeeding even a little bit, and they 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:30.279 supplement with formula. I try to always explain to them 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:33.560 just because you're giving formula too does not negate the 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.119 benefits of breastfeeding people are like, all of a sudden, 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:38.400 I'm a failure because I'm giving formula. I'm like, no, 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:42.479 you're not. It's all great. One teaspoon of breastmolk has 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:45.280 like millions of germ fighting sales. So even if you're 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:48.240 giving maybe a drop a teaspoon, any amount of breastmolk 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:52.839 is beneficial. And we have to stop this this culture 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:56.560 of it's either this or that. It's not all or nothing. However, 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:59.120 you feed your baby really is nobody's sucking business, right, 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:02.160 it's your kid. Do what you feel as best, because 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:04.600 a happy healthy mom is a happy healthy baby. I've 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.560 seen so many parents that are struggling to breastfeed and 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:10.880 it's really really affecting their mental health. And then you 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:15.479 throw in postpartum hormones, postpartum anxiety, postpartum depression, all of 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:17.840 this stuff which is not healthy. So I wouldn't much 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:21.680 rather you'd be healthy and happy and and your baby 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:24.360 be healthy and happy than you to stay up every 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:27.360 two hours pumping all night because you have this you know, 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:31.640 dispurge of being judged because you have to breastfeed. Your 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:33.960 baby will be fine. You will be fine. And I 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:36.840 think that we have to stop that and support each 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:39.400 other no matter what. And like you said, it's so 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:42.880 not an all or nothing situation. Like someone in my 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:46.560 life right now had a baby was born with torda callis, 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:48.800 which means just like you know, she her head is 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:51.160 super tilted to one side because of how she was 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:54.120 in utero for a long time. And the mom is 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:56.760 pumping and it's like, I'm not a breastfeeding mother and 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:59.400 I'm like, yes you are, and she's like, no, I'm not. 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:01.320 The baby is not on my breast, and I said, 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:05.000 listen to me. You're giving your baby breast milk in 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:08.320 a bottle. Also, you're cuddling with your baby and she's sucking. 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:10.640 She's suckling at the boob once in a while, Like yes, 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:12.760 she's also having a lot of bottles too. And the 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:16.520 mom was convinced to identify herself and was having such 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:20.560 anxiety and I'm like, wow, like this ship runs so deep. 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:23.960 You guys, like the anxiety and it's irrational because your 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:27.160 hormonal and irrational and trying to make sense of something 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:29.880 that there's no way for you to be good at it. 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:34.360 You never practiced, You never practice like you never do 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:38.520 it until you do it, it's really hard. Pumping is 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:40.960 breastfeeding too, By the way, can we just all agree 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:43.560 you do not have to latch her baby onto breastfeeds. 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:47.760 So you've heard it here first from Crystal do Haitima. 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:51.640 Pumping is also breastfeeding, yes, But the point is that 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:54.159 I wanted to breastfeed and it was my goal. And 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:57.440 to just dismiss that, whether it was for racial reasons 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:01.680 or just because breastfeeding wasn't promoted nine years ago as 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:05.000 much as it is now, maybe who knows. But I 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:08.360 felt so defeated. Um, but to being the strong woman 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:10.240 that I am, I went home and said, no, I'm 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:13.560 going to do this, and so I investigated and researched 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:17.840 my way to breastfeeding my son for over two years 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:21.160 while also dealing with postpart and depression as well. So 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:24.600 when I got pretty with my daughter, um, I was like, 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:28.400 there has to be a better way. This cannot be motherhood, right, 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.120 I mean, you see these pictures and everybody smiling. There 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:34.680 has to be something and something missing. And so I 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:38.000 began researching ways to promote my own milk production for 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:39.960 my own selfish reasons, because I wanted to have a 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:42.840 better journey and I became a certified le Teaian consultant, 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:46.200 and I began talking to other parents and realized that 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:49.680 so many others had the same struggles that I did, 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:53.520 across all races, across all countries. This is just an 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:57.480 ongoing the issue. And so I developed this delicious cookie 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:01.320 recipe to help promote my milk production because I like sweets, 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:03.560 because I was pregnant with a little girl. I don't 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:05.800 know if it's old wise hill, but oh honey, no, 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:09.680 I felt it too. Obviously, there's not breast milk in 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:12.720 these lactation cookies. I mean, good lord, So, yeah, it's 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:14.920 no breastmolk. You'd like to save that for the babies. 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:17.040 Could you imagine if we have this like farm of 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:21.640 Moms hotel in our cookies. Yeah, none of that's going on. 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:24.680 But we have just nice healthy ingredients like oats, oats 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:28.360 um and brushes which has lots of vitamin B in 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:31.640 there to help promote lactation, flaxy, lots of whole grains, 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:36.120 just lots of healthy ingredients that have been time tested 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:40.200 per generations across the world to help promote lactation. Yeah, 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:42.520 you guys will hear if any of you women listening 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:45.280 who are pregnant or have little ones or are thinking 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:48.360 about getting pregnant again and taking a different stab at breastfeeding. 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:51.440 You start to hear all of these things about oats 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:56.280 and flax seed and nuts and really big like healthy 0:08:56.400 --> 0:09:01.640 fat complex carbs. And I remember trying to get my 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.520 milk production up with my son and I was just like, Oh, 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:07.880 someone told me like a really yeasty beer. And I'm 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:11.320 like sending my husband to like a like a specialty 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:16.000 beer place to get me something. It's like totally insane. Um, 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:18.920 But you do all the work for us so that 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:21.679 we don't have to go around scrounging for all like 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:24.360 flax seed oils, so that it's literally like all baked 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:28.200 into these delicious treats. Yeah, can you give us an 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:30.800 example just so that our mouths are watering like minar 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:33.000 right now? Like, what are some of the cookies and 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:36.240 treats that are offered? So we have old milk chocolate chip, 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:39.800 We have peanut butter, peanut butter chocolate chip, salted caramel. 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:45.120 We also have an emergency brownie, which is our signature product. 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:49.400 It's the Bob. I love that. Yes, we also have 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:52.520 a lactation brownie, which is similar to our emergency brownie, 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:54.679 but not as potent, So if you're not having like 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:57.600 an emergency, you don't need an emergency brownie. We also 0:09:57.640 --> 0:09:59.640 have herbal supplements for those of you that don't really 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:02.440 cook some browny of all day, I completely understand. So 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:05.320 we have herbal supplements that are fat free UM, and 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:07.800 they're just concentrated herbs that you can put under your 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:10.440 tongue or in a liquid or something or one of 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:14.320 our delicious drink mixes. We have milky Melon, which is 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.640 my absolute favorite. It's like a lactation cool aid almost. 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:22.880 Then we have Lactaian lemonade Lemonate sorry, let moonate, I 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:25.640 love it. We have Pump and Punch, which is they're 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:27.720 all just like drink powders that you can pour. And 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:31.200 then they have smoothie mixes UM for those of you 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:33.000 that wants have been on the go so you start 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:35.040 making this stuff on yourself. And was your issue? I 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:37.600 know you had said with your son that it was 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:42.120 really painful. Was that because of something specifically or and 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:45.960 also was supply an issue for you both? It was 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:49.679 lack of education, lack of support and all of that 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:54.400 combined turns into a decreasing or lower milk supply. Oh yeah, 0:10:54.400 --> 0:11:01.240 because guys, listening stress is a big, big issue with apply. Yeah, 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:02.840 and there are a lot of things that you just 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:05.560 you don't know and no one tells you. So that 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:07.920 was one of the biggest reasons that I started my company. 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:10.800 Is not just the cookies. Yeah, they're delicious and they're effective. 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:12.600 But what was so important for me is to help 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:17.240 educate and support breastfeeding parents, pumping parents, supplementing parents, no 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.960 matter what, so that we could all have this beautiful, empowering, 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:24.360 confident journey. Because I remember that being a parent, a 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:27.960 new parent, I just felt so like not confident. So 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:30.400 it was just my mission to just really help educate 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:32.920 people so that they would know, Hey, this is what 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:35.680 it's supposed to happen, this is normal. This is not 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:38.120 so confident in your choice. If you decide, hey, you 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.360 know what, I breastfed for one week and I'm good, 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:42.480 I'm done, I don't want to do it anymore, I 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:45.200 will support you. And if you breastfeed for ten years, 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:48.080 I will support you. Um. I think that that is 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:51.280 what's so so important. It's just education. Um. If I 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.480 would have had the education for my health care provider 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:56.600 every prenatal appointment instead of saying here is and may 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:58.439 defeed it. I think I would have been much more 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:02.160 prepared and had a better outcome. I'm you're really just 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:05.960 filling my heart right now, because it's not cool. Guys. 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:09.160 None of us are living in villages anymore where we're 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:13.000 surrounded by breastfeeding women. And I similarly to you, even 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:17.800 though I'm in a white family, my mother didn't breastfeed either, 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:20.800 and neither did my mother in law, and I didn't 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:24.440 have anyone to talk to personally who could literally like 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:28.280 show me, like put your boob like this in the 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:33.920 baby's mouth. Aside from the five minute lactation consultant visit 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:36.920 that I had in the hospital when the baby was 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:42.160 two minutes old, and I was so stressed out and hormonal. Anyway, 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:45.440 I don't even know what they said. And thank god, 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:47.719 it's so unfair, which is what I want to get 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:51.920 into with you, that I paid a ridiculous amount of 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:56.520 money for a top Los Angeles lactation consultants, Linda Hannah, 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:59.559 who's incredible and has come on this podcast to come 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:03.280 and do home visits with both of my children. Because 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:06.720 even when three years had gone by with my daughter, 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:09.760 I didn't remember how to do it. I didn't remember. Also, 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:12.600 she's a different mouth, she's a different latch, I'm a 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:16.559 different person. But the whole time I was thinking, my god, 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:18.880 if you don't have the funds for this, or you 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:22.680 don't live in a major city where this information was 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:25.079 given to me, that there's electation consultant that would come 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:28.560 and visit my house and you don't have that the 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:31.400 finances or whatever it is that's holding you back, you 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:34.280 are fucked, Like what are you supposed to do? Get formula? 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:36.000 But then that's the whole other thing is that formula 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:38.920 is so expensive, like it all is expensive, and it's 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:41.200 so taxing, and it's just I mean, we could talk 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:45.480 for hours about just the shitty postpartum care that we 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:47.920 as women have and parents have in the United States, 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.560 but that's again who another issue here. Yeah, but what 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:53.520 you're doing is you're really making a stand to change it. 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:56.360 You are, You're making a major stand to change it. 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:07.080 There's so many breastfeeding tips, which is why I think 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:09.960 what I did wrong is that people are so obsessed 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:13.640 with the baby coming that they spend a lot of 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:17.040 their pregnancy, prepping the baby room and what stroll are 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.000 we going to get and as our registry done for 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:24.480 our thing and all that, and everyone just leaves breastfeeding 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.520 to I'll just figure it out when I get there. 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:31.480 And I don't think it's not that you need to 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:35.160 stress yourself out by taking eight thousand breastfeeding classes. It's 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:37.640 not that. It's that I do think I would have 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:41.800 benefited from in my pregnancy, honestly, like following Milky MoMA 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:48.920 on Instagram and just every day looking at some breastfeeding words, 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:52.520 some tips, some like you know, so that when I 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:55.760 got there myself, it wasn't also dealing with ship that 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:59.120 I had never heard of and was like a foreign subject. 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:01.920 Like I just think it would be helpful to like 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:07.760 familiarize yourself with the word filange or production or colostrum 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:11.120 or how to hand express, take your own boob, push 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:14.760 on it practice. I agree, And we actually offer a 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:18.120 breastfeed course called Breastfeeding one oh one. It's online, um 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:20.160 and it covers everything that you need to know from 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:24.320 pregnancy and like the first couple of weeks of giving birth, 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.560 because I wish, like I said that my doctor every 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:32.000 appointment said hey, here's this new breastfeeding topic for this appointment. 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:34.840 Read this so that way it's not such a shock 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:38.520 after So yeah, I educate yourself prior to giving birth, 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:41.920 because there is a saying that breastfeeding is natural. But again, 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.440 like that was years ago. It doesn't come natch, It 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:47.440 does not come naturally. It doesn't like you know, like 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:49.880 it is a skill, and not only is it a 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:52.120 skill for you, but it's a skill for your baby. 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:56.200 Like your baby might know how to suck. All babies 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:58.640 are born knowing how to suck, but they are not. 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:01.000 They don't know how to lad, they don't know how 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:03.640 the food gets down there. I mean, it's like you're 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:07.440 both learning together. You're both learning together how to do it. 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:12.320 What breastfeeding Let's say the baby is like a week old. 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:15.440 What are you any breastfeeding tips? You know what? Mine? 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:20.880 Nolise is Finalalactation Consultant. Yes, I have so many. Okay, 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:23.480 one of my favorites. This is like newborn, not really 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:25.280 a week old, but this is a new born. This 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:27.800 is how to get your breastfeeding journey off to a 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:31.040 good start from the beginning, because that's like usually when 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:32.920 we like function up is in the beginning, it's like 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:36.800 that is one percent when I was already fucked like bad. 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:42.160 So in the beginning, babies out right of your vagina 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:45.720 or your surrogate or your belly is a c section. 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:48.240 However baby's born. What you're gonna do is you want 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:50.640 to latch, maybe on it as soon as possible if 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:53.840 you can. If you can't, then that's okay. Then you 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:56.880 want to start hand expressing right away. A lot of 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:59.160 parents say, if if I can't latch, I'm gonna pump. 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:02.680 But when you a colostrum super duper thick, sometimes the 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:05.520 pump can't remove it. We get discouraging, we're not producing anything. 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:08.479 We stop pumping and then goes down the drain. If 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:12.240 your baby is latching, what you want to do is 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:17.159 you want to hand express colostrum. After every feeding. You're 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:20.440 gonna feed that to your baby in either a medicine 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:23.399 cup or on a spoon. What that does is it 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:26.359 make sure your baby gets all that extra milk so 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:28.280 that they get their weight up, so that they get 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:30.280 their poops and their peas up, so that you're not 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:33.520 like freaking out at their at their pediatrician appointment when 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:36.600 they lose weight and you're sending extra signals to your 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:39.720 supply and your body early on take it off to 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.439 a good start, so you're moving extra milk. So if 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.600 you do that for the first week and you do 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:47.119 it well, then it's just already starting off on the 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:50.840 right foot. I have never heard of this, and this 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:55.080 is genius, Like why did I not even think about 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:59.960 hand expressing after a feed to keep asking my body 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:03.280 to keep like making it for supply. And then also 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:06.240 you can just collect it in a little medicine cup 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:08.960 and then put it in like a medicine dropper or 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:11.560 freeze it or whatever you want to do, Like you 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:13.199 don't have to feed it to baby right away if 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:15.800 baby is doing well at the breast, which a lot 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:17.640 of us don't know either. We're just like I think 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:21.120 babies eating. I have no idea, um, so to tell 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:23.720 you want to look at diaper output for the first week, 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:26.119 they should have one wet diaper for every day. So 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:28.560 if babies one day old, they should have at least 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:30.959 one p diaper two days old, at least two by 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:33.720 about day four, depending on your type of labor that 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:36.919 you have, they should have yellow, seedy poop and not 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:41.760 that dark green you know maconium poop tar. Guys, Yes, 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:45.800 it's tar. It's literal tar. It's so gross. So if 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:47.560 all of that is happening in the first week, all 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:49.960 as well. Um, So you don't have to give that 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:51.720 that colossum if you don't want to, and you can 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.840 store it for you know, it's like liquid gold. You 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:56.920 can put it on anything or give it another date. 0:18:57.000 --> 0:18:58.959 But do that in the first week. It doesn't have 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:01.400 to be every feeding because being a new parent is exhausting, 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:04.320 but as after as many feedings as possible, and that 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:07.160 will get you off on the right start. That is genius. 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:09.600 And like there are videos online of like had a 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:12.640 hand express right because I remember being like what am 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:17.240 I doing? Am I a cow? It's definitely a skill. 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:20.040 A lot of us just squeeze um and it's not 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:23.120 a squeezing. It's like a copy and then you're pressing 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:27.200 back and then compressing and releasing, so it's not squeezing. 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:29.480 You're gonna squeeze all day. You can get a much out. Yeah, 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:31.960 don't just if you're listening to this podcast, Joe, don't 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:34.520 like squeezing away. That's not what it is. You can 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:36.800 like go on the milky Mama Instagram and you can 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:39.080 see how to self express a video on that or 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:43.120 YouTube to Also to note, if you're someone that's like 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:47.119 crushing these milky mamma delicious cookies, just because you stop 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:50.560 taking the cookies does not decrease your milk supply. Correct No, 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:56.679 and also disclaimer. Um again, support is so important to me. 0:19:56.840 --> 0:20:00.760 So if you are not nursing or not pumping and 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:04.399 just you know, chilling at home watching TV and you 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:07.240 eat cookies, your milk supplies walking to increase, like you 0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:11.399 still have to do the underlying things that are necessary 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:14.600 to increase and promote your milk production. So they are magic. 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:18.360 They just help support lactician in a healthy way so 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:20.760 that you can use all of the education that hopefully 0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:22.879 you'll get from us to to help have a healthy 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:25.240 and happy breastfeeding journey. But as long as you are 0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:28.960 maintaining your milk removal sessions either my pumping or nursing 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:30.879 or hay and expressing or however you do it, your 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:33.720 supply should be maintained. Also, people who are listening who 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:36.480 are in the throes of an early baby, breastfeeding is 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:39.320 so fucking hard. Your baby is learning how to do it. 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:41.600 You're learning how to do it, so each session is 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:45.879 like an hour, your nipples are falling off, you're doing 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:49.480 it all the time. Whatever happens happens, of course, but 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:52.359 also just know, like it's seven months old baby, I 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:55.639 only breastfeed like four times a day and it takes 0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:59.520 me maybe seven to ten minutes tops. That's awesome. I 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:02.480 hate just are people my seven month olds because they 0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:07.160 were just like my son would like he didn't sleep 0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:08.720 through the night, and he would still, which is a 0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:10.639 whole another thing, like your babies will sleep through the 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:12.240 night when they sleep through the night, Like your baby 0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:13.960 doesn't have to sleep through the night a two weeks older. 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:17.040 It's completely normal. Yes, but my baby didn't sleep through 0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:18.720 the night, and then he was teething and so he 0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:21.520 would wake up throughout the night to nurse. And it 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:24.520 wasn't always great, but I wanted to do it and 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:27.800 it was fun and there were moments that I loved. 0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:30.919 And you know, being a mom is sucking hard in general, right, 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:33.440 So even when he was older and teething and stuff 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:35.199 like that, it would take he would breastfeed for a 0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:37.359 long time. Not for a long time, it was just 0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:40.480 frequently he would like cluster feed and then he would 0:21:40.520 --> 0:21:42.960 wake up that night and all of that stuff. It 0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:45.760 was tough. Yeah, See, I haven't gotten She's seven months 0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:47.800