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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by Calida Health. And

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Speaker 1: here we are Saint John Fisher University, the site of

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Speaker 1: Bill's training camp, fris Brown Steve Tasker One Bill's Live

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Speaker 1: for day five of training camp in the books after

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Speaker 1: a morning session, the first in full pads this entire

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Speaker 1: summer for the Bills, and I would say overall pretty

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Speaker 2: It was thud at best.

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Speaker 1: But it was important for one Damar Hamlin as it

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Speaker 1: was his first time in pads since January second, the

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Speaker 1: night that he collapsed in Cincinnati with the cardiac event,

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Speaker 1: so a major hurdle for him today. And we will

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Speaker 1: hear from Damar Hamlin in just a little bit here

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Speaker 1: as we present to you some of the comments he

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Speaker 1: made to the media. One of the more interesting answers

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Speaker 1: he gave Steve was he said, somebody asked him, I

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Speaker 1: think it was Maddy asked him, you know, is your

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Speaker 1: life normal again? And he said, I don't know that

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Speaker 1: my life will ever be normal again. It was an

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Speaker 1: interesting description that he made. So we're gonna bring you

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Speaker 1: some of Damar's comments. Oh, I'd say in about ten

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Speaker 1: to fifteen minutes, from now so you can hear some

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Speaker 1: of his comments on how his first day went.

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Speaker 2: His entire family was here.

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Speaker 1: Yes, mom and dad were here, his younger brother was here,

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Speaker 1: his agent was here. So it was I was really

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Speaker 1: happy for tomorrow to see his whole family here in support,

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Speaker 1: knowing what this day meant for him and to him,

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Speaker 1: so to see that family support was just had to

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Speaker 1: be all the more reassuring for him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as all of our lives kind of chug along

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Speaker 3: will kind of impact Damar's incident had on the entire

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Speaker 3: country and certainly the National Football League. And we had

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Speaker 3: got to know his family during the time because you know,

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Speaker 3: they were the only kind of information that would trickle

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Speaker 3: out of Damar's hospital room. And we've come a million

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Speaker 3: miles Yeah, since that night, and yeah, it's great to

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Speaker 3: and to have Damar actually in in pads practicing like

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Speaker 3: like nothing, like nothing happened. It's pretty because we were

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Speaker 3: having a conversation on the sidelines, and you forget. It's

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Speaker 3: easy to forget when things turn out the way they have.

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Speaker 3: It's easy to forget how it affected all of us,

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Speaker 3: and you know, as nonchalant as it was today, we

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Speaker 1: No, And it's clear based on some of the Mar's

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Speaker 1: they were happening. The magnitude of today was not lost

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Speaker 1: on him either, as you could probably understand why we've

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Speaker 1: got a jam packed show for you today. Bottom of

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Speaker 1: the hour about oh, i'd say twenty or so minutes

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Speaker 1: from now, we're going to be joined by NFL Networks

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Speaker 1: Tom pellisera who is making his way to training camps

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Speaker 1: across the country, so he's gonna sit down with us,

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Speaker 1: talk about this team, talk about the AFC East, talk

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Speaker 1: about Dalvin Cook, who visited the Jets yesterday and is

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Speaker 1: probably likely to land somewhere in this division that's not Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: so we'll get his insight on that. With him being

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Speaker 1: an NFL Network insider, look forward to talking to him.

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Speaker 1: Second hour of the show will be with Greg russo

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Speaker 1: he'll be sitting down with us here in between us

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Speaker 1: to talk about his camp so far and what that

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Speaker 1: think I'm safe in saying this on Steve's behalf believe

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Speaker 1: that this is maybe the deepest, most talented defensive front

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Speaker 1: So I'm curious for Greg's thoughts on that and how

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Speaker 1: Look forward to that conversation and you know, not for nothing.

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Speaker 1: Guy had four sacks in his first four games last year.

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Speaker 1: Take a quick whip around the league. Here Steve with

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Speaker 1: some around the NFL news presented by Kalida Health, the

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Speaker 1: official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills. This went under

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Speaker 1: the radar a little bit because of the other news

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Speaker 1: that is happening in Indianapolis. So Anthony Richardson Steve had

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Speaker 1: to get nose surgery today. But the Colts are getting raked,

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Speaker 1: their social media departments getting raked over the coals because

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson had a procedure today. It's gonna freak everybody

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Speaker 2: On his nose.

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Speaker 1: Something with his septum, which is that piece in between

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Speaker 1: not practice today. That is the least of their concerns.

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Speaker 1: The Jonathan Taylor situation has gotten all sorts of wonky.

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Speaker 1: I'll try to lay it out as best I know,

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Speaker 1: but basically, Jonathan Taylor, in the last year of his

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Speaker 1: two years ago and four Pro bowls. Right, the owner,

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Speaker 1: Jim Irsay says, hop on my private bus, we'll have

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing it didn't go that well. I mean a

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Speaker 1: network insiders that the Colts may put Jonathan Taylor on

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Speaker 1: reporting back pain from a weightlifting incident that took place

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Speaker 2: You need to check your sources.

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Speaker 1: So now there is this thought that the Colts are

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Speaker 2: If they choose to do that.

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Speaker 3: This is his fourth year coming up, he hasn't been

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Speaker 3: Taylor is not the problem in this scenario.

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Speaker 1: There's still more though, So now you don't have Jonathan

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Speaker 1: He's not getting it. That's bad enough. Then there's talk

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Speaker 1: coup de grasse. Steve already shorthanded at the running back

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Speaker 1: league source. So both parties in the Naheim Heinz Zach

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Speaker 2: Won't be starting the season. As we know.

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Speaker 1: Nahim Hines the victim of the unfortunate Jet Ski accident

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Speaker 1: that's going to cost him the twenty twenty three season.

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Speaker 1: The guy that was traded for him, Zach Moss, broken wrist.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, I well, obviously the Moss incident is

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Speaker 3: not something they anticipated. And Zach Moss is certainly a

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Speaker 3: They made that trade here in Buffalo, so both teams.

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Speaker 3: But here's here's the thing we're Jim Irsay can say

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Speaker 3: He tweeted that a lot of people worked very hard

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Speaker 3: on the CBA and it would be wrong for somebody

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Speaker 3: if they can replace a running back press to like

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Speaker 3: I mean, they're four days of training camp, so it's

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Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson notwithstanding, I don't think that's very serious. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't know that he's going to miss much time now,

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Speaker 3: no deviated septum.

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Speaker 4: But.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna find out going from an elite running back

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Speaker 3: and Jonathan Taylor to whoever they can find on the

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Speaker 3: the same case even when Zack Moss was healthy. But

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Speaker 3: now their whole room is gonna be guys, right, their

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Speaker 3: whole running back corep is gonna be guys. That's like, uh,

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Speaker 3: I mean, don't fumble it. That's gonna be that's really

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Speaker 3: gonna put this to the test because the Indianapolis Colts

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Speaker 3: are a team that uses that guy.

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Speaker 1: Here are the other running backs on the Colts roster

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Speaker 1: after Jonathan Taylor and backup Zack Moss who broke his wrist,

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Speaker 1: Evan Hull fifth round pick this year, Jake Funk who's

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Speaker 3: Throwing it out there, No, you can't pay Dalvin Cook,

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Speaker 3: he's played Jonathan Taylor. I would say yes to that,

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Speaker 3: but you know I'm not you know, I'm not Jim

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Speaker 1: Definitely a possibility.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's it's definitely I could grow to six

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Speaker 1: Because we do have to turn to the comments made

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Speaker 5: How was it got to be? Uh in pads again? Man?

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Speaker 6: I was kind of all over the place, you know,

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Speaker 6: I'm on God's timing as much as the NFL is,

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Speaker 5: It's a it's a challenge. So you know, I'm embracing it.

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Speaker 5: You know that that that you know, I'm be okay.

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Speaker 6: Uh man, this is a football. You can't you can't

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm not afraid to say that.

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Speaker 3: It's one thing I can basically, you know, talk about

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Speaker 6: foundation as far as you know, getting as many people

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Speaker 6: as we can in the city CPR certified and and

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Speaker 6: donating AEDs to the local youth sports leagues you know,

438
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Speaker 6: across the town. So you know, that's my mission you know,

439
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Speaker 6: I couldn't conquer the world in one off season, but

440
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Speaker 6: you know I I'm We're in the works of playing

441
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Speaker 6: so many more cities, you know, as far as as

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Speaker 6: far as next.

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Speaker 5: Year and in years on and years on to come,

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Speaker 5: you know.

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Speaker 6: So that'll be my mission forever because it's so important

446
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Speaker 6: and it's so effective and affected me directly. So you know,

447
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Speaker 6: I like that's that's that's how you find purpose, you

448
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Speaker 6: know what I'm saying by by going through something and

449
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Speaker 6: then you know, learning from it and making the world

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Speaker 6: a better place from things like that. So you Tamayia,

451
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Speaker 6: you said you have more goals when it comes to

452
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Speaker 6: football and obviously off the field as well.

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Speaker 3: What are some of those goals maybe when it comes.

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Speaker 7: To football specifically, and how do you go to balancoe

455
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Speaker 7: like it's just another practice and also like kind of

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Speaker 7: crossing off some of those goals.

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Speaker 6: Well, right now, my goals is just one day at

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Speaker 6: a time, you know, even my big goals, honestly, I

459
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Speaker 6: can't even I can't even focus on those right now.

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Speaker 6: So my goals is just one day at a time.

461
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Speaker 6: I'm not out of practice, focusing on one period, one second,

462
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Speaker 6: one play, one step, at the time, honestly, So you

463
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Speaker 6: know my big goals t I can't even mention them

464
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Speaker 6: right now cause I'll be in the wrong headspace. He

465
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Speaker 6: been thinking about them, you know, thinking that far down

466
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Speaker 6: the line and kind of it. It it it it

467
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Speaker 6: makes me not lose focused, but it it puts emotions

468
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Speaker 6: inside of me that I don't even need to be dealing.

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Speaker 5: With her processing right now.

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Speaker 6: So as long as I stay one day at a time,

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Speaker 6: one step out of time, one second out of time,

472
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Speaker 6: one meeting out of time, you know, I I stay

473
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Speaker 6: in the right hairspace, you know. And my mindset right

474
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Speaker 6: now is just being ready for the Buffalo bills whenever

475
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Speaker 6: they need me.

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Speaker 9: I think, remark, that's your family out there to go

477
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Speaker 9: to see you.

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Speaker 2: Obviously they fit with you.

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Speaker 1: This maturity or what is that like?

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Speaker 9: You know, the celebration of putting on this boot pads

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Speaker 9: and being able to be out there and having them

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Speaker 9: here exploring.

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Speaker 6: Ah, man, you see, I I brighten up when you

484
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Speaker 6: talk about my family. But it it means everything to me,

485
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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Like these are the same

486
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Speaker 6: people that I was in the room with me when

487
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Speaker 6: I was in the hospital bid going through my worst

488
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Speaker 6: moments of the process.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: I remember being in the hospital bid and my little

491
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Speaker 6: brother being like, he faster than me right now. You

492
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Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. He he thinking he faster than

493
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Speaker 6: me right now. And I'm like, it ain't gonna last

494
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Speaker 6: too long, you know what I mean. But you know,

495
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Speaker 6: just to have them out there. You know, I'm thinking

496
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Speaker 6: about moments like that, and you know, we we overcame

497
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Speaker 6: a lot, you know, my entire life, you know what

498
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Speaker 6: I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: So this is just another milestone on that journey.

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Speaker 6: You know, it might be one of the biggest ones,

501
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Speaker 6: but it's just another milestone on the journey, another hurdle

502
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Speaker 6: that you know, we've overcame. That kind of been our

503
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Speaker 6: story all along. If you if you check the receipts, what's.

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Speaker 9: Your conversations with the team? Has it changed? Is it

505
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Speaker 9: more ongoing? Is it any different than it's been maybe

506
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Speaker 9: if you were coming off an injury, I mean, how

507
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Speaker 9: is do you have constant conversations about how you're doing?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 6: I mean, my brothers do it. They do a good

510
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Speaker 6: job checking on me and making sure I'm doing well,

511
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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. And if they see anything off.

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Speaker 6: Nobody hesitates to come speak to me, have a one

513
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Speaker 6: on one conversation with me, you know. But my brothers

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Speaker 6: do a good job of you know, checking on me

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Speaker 6: mentally and you know, just keeping everything in perspective. You know,

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Speaker 6: they they they really do a good job. So you know,

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Speaker 6: I feel like most at piece when I'm when I'm

518
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Speaker 6: when I'm here, when I'm in Buffalo, when I'm when

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Speaker 6: I'm with my teammates, and I'm back around this game,

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Speaker 6: I get my most piece here.

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Speaker 9: I'm sorry, Is there any different with Seawan and the

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Speaker 9: coaching staff? Is there any more conversations now or is

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Speaker 9: it just regular?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 6: It's we we I mean obviously you know, it's a

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Speaker 6: sensitive situation, so you know, it's kind of you know,

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Speaker 6: they they always tell me it's it's at my pace,

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Speaker 6: at my tempo, you know what I'm saying, And like,

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Speaker 6: you know, they do a really good job of also,

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Speaker 6: you know, coaching me up the same way and and

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Speaker 6: integrate me into the group the same way, you know

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Speaker 6: what I mean.

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Speaker 5: And that's what I.

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Speaker 6: Want, you know, I I honestly would love to, like,

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Speaker 6: you know, do this whole process under a rop. Get

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Speaker 6: myself together and then pop back out when I when

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Speaker 6: I feel like my best, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: But you know, I I think there's strength and and

539
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Speaker 6: and you know, going through a process in front of that,

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Speaker 6: in front of everybody's eyes, you know, it shows vulnerability,

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Speaker 6: it shows strength, shows perseverance, and you know, that's that's

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Speaker 6: things I would love to stand for.

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Speaker 3: Today where you just kind of walked up the sky.

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Speaker 3: We're just kind of taking it all less for a

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Speaker 3: couple of moments.

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Speaker 6: During those moments, what are I'm just thankful, you know

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Speaker 6: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: I'm thankful.

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Speaker 6: I'm just blessed to be able to do what I

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Speaker 6: what I what I want to do as a kid again,

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Speaker 6: you know, at the highest level. You know, after going

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Speaker 6: through such a traumatic situation, you know, to be able

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Speaker 6: to come out here and compete again at the highest

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Speaker 6: level in the world. You know what I'm saying, that's

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Speaker 6: like us, that's such a blessing, and that's such a

556
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 6: blessed space to be in. You know, even outside of

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Speaker 6: all the you know, other end of it, all the

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Speaker 6: thoughts I could be thinking about, you know, regardless of

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Speaker 6: if things might happen again might cross my man like that.

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Speaker 6: You know, I always take a second to keep things

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Speaker 6: in perspective that ultimately, like.

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Speaker 5: Life is bigger than football, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: But this is what I love to do.

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Speaker 6: So to be able to do what I love again

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Speaker 6: at the highest level is just a blessing. So that's

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Speaker 6: just me just keeping stuff in reality, checking myself and

567
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Speaker 6: just you know, just letting myself just let go and

568
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Speaker 6: have fun, you know, kind of being that little kid

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Speaker 6: again in the sport.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I did you choose your parly, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: the they then.

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Speaker 6: They they the bunch uh pretty much same same same regimen,

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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, same regiment as far as

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Speaker 6: my Patty.

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Speaker 4: The rest grill or with Natebrowski and I saw you

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Speaker 4: checking getto mo money out during the parctice.

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Speaker 9: They know, they checking with everyone.

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Speaker 3: Felt was there anything different about gotten today just with

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Speaker 3: the at stop.

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, me and my me and the training staff,

581
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Speaker 6: we always we have our personal check ins always throughout

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Speaker 6: the day, you know what I'm saying, even outside of

583
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Speaker 6: like just body stuff on the field, and you know,

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Speaker 6: we have our check ins in the training room and

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Speaker 6: throughout the day, and you know, we FaceTime by night,

586
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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, and off days, you know,

587
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 6: we do our own things, so you know, there there

588
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Speaker 6: that's like extended family to me. It's a personal relationship

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Speaker 6: with everyone as far as the training staff, you know

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Speaker 6: what I'm saying, just from going through such a deep

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Speaker 6: situation like that together and then you know, they saved

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Speaker 6: my life, so you know, I love them forever, and

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Speaker 6: I got so many, you know, so many years of

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Speaker 6: gratitude to show.

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Speaker 5: Them, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: That's Jamar Hamlin addressing the media after practice today, his

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Speaker 1: first practice in full pads since January second, and he

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Speaker 1: went on for a little while longer after that and

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Speaker 1: had some pretty insightful comments on what the day meant

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Speaker 1: to him. The magnitude of it certainly was not lost

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Speaker 1: on him. We have to take a break here, but

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Speaker 1: when we come back, we're going to be joined by

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Speaker 1: NFL Network insider Tom Pellisero, who is taking in Bill's

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Speaker 1: camp today. He'll join us next here on One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Live presented by Colida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Rady. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with

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Speaker 1: you here live at Bill's training camp at Saint John Fisher.

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Speaker 1: Please to be joined now by NFL Network insider Tom

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Speaker 1: Pellisero joining us making his way through Rochester as one

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Speaker 1: of many stops on your training camp tour. What do

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Speaker 1: you do after the tour is over? Do you just

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Speaker 1: like lay down on your pouch for two days, tell

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Speaker 1: your wife chips and beer like every three hours for

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Speaker 1: the next It.

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Speaker 7: Is an awakening when you get back because it's so go,

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Speaker 7: go go. We're live literally all day from the start

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Speaker 7: of Good Morning Football at seven am Eastern through Total Access,

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Speaker 7: but I think goes to nine pm Eastern. It's like

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Speaker 7: fourteen hours a day, right, and then we hit August tenth.

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Speaker 3: And it's what do we do?

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Speaker 7: We replay play preseason games all day and that of

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Speaker 7: course gets way higher ratings than anything involving that, which

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Speaker 7: is really also a good way to humble myself. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: we don't, Yeah, we don't. Get No, we don't. Nobody

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Speaker 7: watches us until we have guys like you on. So

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Speaker 7: it's just when it's just the two of us, like

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Speaker 7: everybody turns us off as well, same.

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Speaker 3: Same thing, same thing. Give us an idea of what

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Speaker 3: you're seeing around league trends or what grabs you're going

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Speaker 3: around the league, if there's any you know, common denominators

632
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Speaker 3: or things that you notice this year that you haven't

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Speaker 3: noticed in the past.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think that the practices are shorter and lighter

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Speaker 7: from just the you know, the first few days of camp.

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Speaker 3: Obviously the first day the bills are in pads.

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Speaker 7: That's all legislated through the collective bargaining Agreement now, but

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Speaker 7: I mean we're talking an hour hour fifteen just like

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Speaker 7: it wasn't your day, Steve, very similar early start of

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Speaker 7: training camp. Want you know, I don't want to get

641
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Speaker 7: into it, but yes, even I mean close to that.

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Speaker 7: There's you know, there's teams that don't do any competitive

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Speaker 7: drills the whole offseason, right, so you're just kind of

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Speaker 7: ramping up into it. I think that too, you know,

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Speaker 7: this is this is the time of year where inevitably

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Speaker 7: there's a lot of optimism because most teams, you would

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Speaker 7: like to think all teams didn't construct their roster to

648
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Speaker 7: think they're going to be bad. They all have things

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Speaker 7: to be excited about. But there's some really competitive divisions

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Speaker 7: on paper out there. I think that the AFC East

651
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Speaker 7: is going to be one of them. The Bills have

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Speaker 7: ruled that for quite a while. But you don't bring

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Speaker 7: in Aaron Rodgers thinking you're not forget about the division,

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Speaker 7: that you're not making a Super Bowl push. The Dolphins,

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Speaker 7: you know, taking a step forward last year and what

656
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 7: they can be with a healthiers to.

657
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Speaker 3: A tongue of ala. Even the top teams in this

658
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 3: division have some question marks. Sean mcdermm is going to

659
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 3: be the defensive coordinator now this year. The Miami Dolphins

660
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 3: have got Vic Fangio is a defensive coordinator, one of

661
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 3: the most highly respected guys in the crow this point

662
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 3: in history of the NFL. And of course Aaron Rodgers

663
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 3: for the Jets. Oh see there too though, new offensive

664
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 3: coordinator there with Nate Hacken. I mean, there is some

665
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 3: stuff going on that leaves there was some pretty big

666
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 3: roles with those three teams that still have the questions

667
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 3: to be answered. Of Course, Bill O'Brien in New England, well, yeah, absolutely,

668
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 3: I would agree.

669
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Speaker 7: I think that the Patriots are the biggest unknown because

670
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 7: they have Bill Belichick there and as much as they've

671
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 7: gone through a lot of bumps since Tom Brady left,

672
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Speaker 7: if you look at how they're kind of constructed right now,

673
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 7: especially with Bill O'Brien coming back. He certainly make the

674
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Speaker 7: argument that they're as well equipped to try to take

675
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 7: that step forward now with Mac Jones and year three

676
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 7: in that offense that Bill O'Brien's had a lot of

677
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 7: success with. You know, they're still looking. They've been talking

678
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 7: to every available skill guy. I still think the Patriots

679
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 7: adds somebody before we get to the regular season here,

680
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 7: maybe even a big name, you know. But then, yeah,

681
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 7: the Miami Vic coming there is going to be a

682
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 7: big deal for them. You know, he's one of the

683
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 7: best that there is on that side of the football.

684
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 7: Losing Jalen Ramsey hurts, but it's not a really corner

685
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 7: dependent defense either. You know, it's a little bit of

686
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,959
Speaker 7: a luxury item bringing him in. I just think Mike

687
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 7: McDaniel's so smart with offense if he has his starting

688
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 7: quarterback and isn't trying to start a playoff game with

689
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Speaker 7: help me out, Skyler Thompson.

690
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 3: Skyler Thompson, I had it at the tip of my tongue.

691
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 3: Thank you, Steve. Northwestern Zone.

692
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Speaker 7: You'd like to think that they've got the opportunity to

693
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 7: be good and the Jets are you know, obviously there's

694
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 7: been a lot of detention on Sean Payton's comments, Alan,

695
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 7: you can, everybody's gonna form their own opinions on that.

696
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 7: The one thing that he's right about is when you

697
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 7: have the teams, they get all the attention and everybody

698
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 7: talks about them before they've played a game. Just because

699
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 7: you add one piece, it does bring that spotlight. I

700
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 7: know it's already New York, but it already brings that

701
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 7: spotlight right onto the team. And if they come out

702
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 7: of the gate and they are one in three or

703
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 7: two and two because they got a really hard start

704
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 7: to the schedule, everyone's gonna be going. You know, it's

705
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 7: gonna be backpage of the tabloids, it's gonna be every

706
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 7: show leading with it. It's gonna be pay pneumonium, and

707
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 7: that's something you're gonna have to navigate through.

708
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: And that spotlight's gonna be gigantic in week one because

709
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: it's Monday Night against the Bills at Medlife on nine

710
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: to eleven. And look, I know that Aaron Rodgers has

711
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: obviously had a lot of success with Nathaniel Hackett up

712
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: in Green Bay. The bottom line is it's still a

713
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Speaker 1: transition for him a transition he's never really had to

714
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Speaker 1: make before because he's played his entire career in Green Bay.

715
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, the last two openers for

716
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers have been downright stinkers the last two years

717
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: in Green Bay. What was it thirty four to seven

718
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: to the Saints or something a couple of years ago,

719
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 1: and last year was and yeah, last.

720
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 3: Year it was against the Saints in Jacksonville. Wasn't that

721
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 3: what it was?

722
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: It was a moved game or whatever, but either way

723
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: it was it was bad. I mean, I know they're

724
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 1: hoping for the best there, and he's saying all the

725
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: right things, doing all the right things. He's defending his

726
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: coaches for gosh sakes, which is not something he's done

727
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: a whole lot.

728
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: In his career either.

729
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 1: But that week one, it's a transition, no matter how

730
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: you slice it.

731
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 7: Right, well, and that's gonna be the thing. It's gonna

732
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 7: be the first time that you see kind of the schemes.

733
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 7: But people, there's a track record on Nathaniel Hackett. You know,

734
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 7: he's been a play caller before. You mostly know what

735
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 7: the offense is gonna look like. Because it's gonna be

736
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 7: the Aaron Rodgers offense. But absolutely, I mean it's it's

737
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 7: national TV. I mean, think back to last year's Monday

738
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 7: Night opener and it was the Broncos, and I think,

739
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 7: in my personal opinion, very unfairly after one game because

740
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 7: of a weird Sea When's that happened.

741
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 3: At the end and won. Nathaniel Hackett surely wanted back.

742
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 7: Everyone labeled him it's already it's too big for him,

743
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 7: he's ill equipped. Everyone was killing him. I will always

744
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 7: maintain if that game had been played at four o'clock

745
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 7: Eastern on a Sunday and twenty percent of the country

746
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 7: saw it, it would not have been nearly the storyline.

747
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 7: They could have dealt with it quietly. Instead, it immediately

748
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 7: was everything. It's gonna be the same thing if the

749
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 7: pack if the Jets are gonna say the Packers, it's

750
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 7: so many of them there. If the Jets come out

751
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 7: and they stumble in that game and the build steamroll them,

752
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 7: you're gonna have a hyper focus going into that following week.

753
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 7: And that's just kind of what you what you buy

754
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 7: into when you bring that guy in.

755
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 3: So we're here, Saint John Fisher. You've watched a little

756
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 3: bit of the practice and and you're like, I mean

757
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 3: you look out and okay, who looks good? Who looks bad?

758
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 3: What's the story? What are your what's your take on

759
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 3: you know, the early point here and first day of pads.

760
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 3: I mean I have called last week I said it

761
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 3: was the embryonic stages of the season.

762
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Speaker 7: It's not quite that, now what that's a very good

763
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 7: term for it. I like that, uh, I would say.

764
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 7: I try to ask people who know a lot more

765
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 7: about what they're looking like than me. And the things

766
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 7: that I keep hearing are number one for all the

767
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 7: dramas arounding Stefan Diggs. And he brings that on himself

768
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 7: because he enjoys it. He likes people talking about him

769
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 7: when it's not football season, when it's back to football.

770
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 7: He's been really good. You see him out here. He's

771
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 7: talking smack back and forth to John Butler. He's leading

772
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 7: every drill. He's the guy. He looks like.

773
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 3: Diggs, Him and Josh have been on the same page.

774
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 3: That's a big deal. Some of the new additions.

775
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 7: I mean, Trent Sherfield's you guy is probably not gonna

776
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 7: get talked about a lot, but he's that pure speed

777
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 7: thread type of guy. Maybe brings a different element. Sounds

778
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 7: like Dalton Kincaid has been really good. I like how

779
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 7: they're gonna move those two guys. In terms of Dalton

780
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 7: being that f movement type of guy. You'll move him

781
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 7: to different spots. You're going to keep Dawson being that

782
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 7: y tight end. That's really not a combination they've had

783
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 7: at that level. And Dalton Kincaid's a really good pass

784
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 7: catching tight end, and so the way they're gonna be

785
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 7: able to create some mismatches with that, I think is

786
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 7: a big deal. James Cook sounds like he's had a

787
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 7: really good camp. You know, you fumble on the first

788
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 7: carry of your career and then after that, it's kind

789
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 7: of like it's this in and out he's getting with

790
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 7: four carries a game and then but you saw what

791
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 7: he did against Chicago last year. What ninety nine yards.

792
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 7: He got a bunch of touches in the playoff game.

793
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 7: In the first playoff game, he as much as they

794
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 7: brought in Latavious, they brought in Damian Harris. I think

795
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 7: that James Coast got a really good chance to come

796
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 7: out and be a big factor, especially with Naim Hines

797
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 7: lost for the season. Because James in that pass catching

798
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 7: type of role, maybe even more so than his brother.

799
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 7: Dalvin's one of the best backs in the league and

800
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 7: has been for a long time. What James brings in

801
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 7: the pass catching mode is, you know, it's not Naim,

802
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 7: but it's probably gonna be able to do some of

803
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 7: those same things.

804
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: Line it up outside the numbers at Georgia like, it's

805
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: not foreign to him at all. Steve touched on it.

806
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 1: I want to get your take on it. Sean McDermott,

807
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator calling the plays. We've talked to some of

808
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: the players, they say when we're in the meetings with him,

809
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: he says, I'm not the head coach, I'm the defensive coordinator.

810
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: We asked Ron Rivera at the combine, what is your

811
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: description of Sean McDermott as a coordinator having him down

812
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: in Caroline.

813
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: He had one word aggressive.

814
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: So he's talked here in camp about wanting to be

815
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: a physical defense where the opponent knows they play the bills.

816
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 2: We've heard aggressive.

817
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: For the people that have worked around him, what are

818
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: you kind of anticipating from him in terms of putting

819
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 1: maybe even a little bit of a tweak on that system,

820
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: which is largely expected to remain the same.

821
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 7: Well, Shawn learned under the late great Jim Johnson, and

822
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 7: he was very much an attacking, blitch, you in your

823
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 7: face type of a defensive coordinator and a really good

824
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 7: one for a long time. Leslie Frazier, who's, you know,

825
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 7: one of the best people in all of football. Obviously,

826
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 7: he's actually working for us this year, working for NFL Network.

827
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 7: I'll be out with him, I think in a week

828
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 7: or so, out in LA covering the Chargers. You know

829
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 7: he comes from even though he played in the old

830
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 7: Bears defense, the Buddy Ryan like. His coaching background is

831
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 7: Tony Dungee, Tampa two. It's you know, it's four man rush.

832
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 7: I think that Shawn's always had, you know, some level

833
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 7: of his fingerprints on this defense. But just in terms

834
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 7: of how he calls the game, yeah, I think he

835
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 7: probably is going to air toward the aggressive side. I

836
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 7: don't know that you need to you know, send seven

837
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 7: every time, especially von Miller comes back and looks like.

838
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 3: Von Miller again.

839
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 7: But absolutely just in terms of the exotics and the

840
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 7: blitz packages and stuff. That's really what the foundation of

841
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 7: Sean McDermott as a coordinator has been and I'd imagine

842
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 7: you brings some of that.

843
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 3: Stuff to the table there. One of the things the

844
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 3: Bills are kind of set at running back. You talked

845
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 3: about it with James Cook and Latavius Murray. So the

846
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 3: Bills aren't really exposed to this problem the way it's

847
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 3: come into focus this year. But the running back position

848
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 3: has been at the forefront of I don't know, it's

849
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 3: not controversy. It's just a huge story that nobody cares

850
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 3: about him anymore, right, I mean, they used to be

851
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 3: important MVP type of players in that running you know,

852
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 3: and it has gone very quickly to an afterthought.

853
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 7: And I think you still have some of those MVP

854
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 7: type guys. They'll have MVP type seasons. When Derrick Henry

855
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 7: runs for two thousand yards, he is the most valuable

856
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 7: player on his team, one of the most valuable players

857
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 7: in the league.

858
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 3: I think that there's a variety of different factors here.

859
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 7: One of them is, since those all those big deals

860
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 7: got done three years ago, it was McCaffrey, Dalvin, Alvin Kamara,

861
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 7: Nick Chubb, nobody's signed that big deal.

862
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: Well, what happens is when nobody is.

863
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 7: Signing the twelve thirteen, fourteen to fifteen million dollars per

864
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 7: year contracts. It drives down the franchise tag number. Now

865
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 7: the franchise tag becomes a weapon for the club, whereas

866
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 7: for other positions such as quarterback or linebacker, it's very

867
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 7: much a weapon for the players. It's not all franchise

868
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 7: tags are bad. It's that in this case because Sequon

869
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 7: doesn't take a deal, Josh Jacobs doesn't take a deal.

870
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Speaker 7: One way that you can try to affect the market

871
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 7: is banned together. Nobody takes it and try to force

872
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 7: the market to go a different direction.

873
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 3: Another way would be sign those deals.

874
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 7: It will boost the franchise tag number, and all of

875
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 7: a sudden it brings the market up. I actually went

876
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 7: back just out of curiosity a week or so ago,

877
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Speaker 7: and I pulled up the twenty thirteen salary reports that

878
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 7: I have and just looked at the highest paid player

879
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 7: at every position. The two positions that did not have

880
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 7: not really significantly risen, even though the cap has grown

881
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 7: like eighty nine percent of that time.

882
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 3: Running Back is one.

883
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 7: I think everybody knows that Adrian Pierce was making fourteen

884
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 7: million dollars in twenty thirteen per year. Now it's McCaffrey,

885
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 7: it's sixteen, and that has to do with a lot

886
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 7: of different factors, including, you know, the Shanahan McVeigh outside

887
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 7: zone system, which is more scheme dependent than back dependent.

888
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 7: Those guys, Even though Kyle Shanahan has character McCaffrey making

889
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 7: a ton of money, he uses him in different ways.

890
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 7: More teams are seeing the value of just get a

891
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 7: bunch of backs, let him all go, duke it out,

892
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 7: get him on low money rookie contracts, and then cycle

893
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 7: out and bring another ones. The other position that hasn't

894
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 7: grown significantly in that time is cornerback, where Darrell Reeves

895
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 7: was making I think around sixteen, and now the highest

896
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 7: one's eighteen. It's something like that, and you think back, well,

897
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Speaker 7: what changed in twenty thirteen The Seahawks won Super Bowl

898
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 7: playing cover three every snap, So that's a very zone

899
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Speaker 7: dependent team. Now, all a sudden, you got all these

900
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 7: other coaches who came out of that system running variations

901
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 7: of it. You don't have that corner that suddenly is

902
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,439
Speaker 7: making thirty million dollars per year. Not say there aren't

903
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 7: really good guys, but you're seeing less. Not that you

904
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 7: don't see it at all, but you see less pure man

905
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 7: type of schemes with what Reeves did, so, I think

906
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 7: it's fascinating.

907
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 3: A lot of this stuff is cyclical.

908
00:41:58,640 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 7: I don't know that we're going to get back to

909
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 7: a face and all of a sudden running backs give

910
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 7: be making thirty million dollars per year. But you know,

911
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 7: I think that a lot of this is just kind

912
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 7: of let's see this thing through here. Let's see who

913
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 7: ends up in free agency. Let's see if these guys

914
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 7: get tagged to get in their tag number, or the

915
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 7: second time around goes to twelve million dollars per year

916
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 7: or twelve million dollars for the second year. It'll be interesting.

917
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Speaker 7: Sequan's there, Josh Jacobs isn't. Then that's gonna be one

918
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Speaker 7: story that we're gonna be falling all the.

919
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 3: Way through to the season.

920
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins said he wanted to play for a contender

921
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: in an ideal world, he ultimately takes the money. In Tennessee,

922
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook says he wants to play for a contender.

923
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 3: Bitter here about that.

924
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 2: No, it's fine, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't bother me. I'm sure it bothers

926
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Speaker 1: some fans that thought they were gonna get him.

927
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Speaker 3: He set that up in such a way.

928
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's fine.

929
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Speaker 1: But my point is, like, now Dalvin Cook says he

930
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: wants to play for a contender too, but you know

931
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Speaker 1: he goes and sees the Jets. Everything's great, I'm gonna

932
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: buy you know, I'm gonna hold my water here and

933
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 1: you know, see what my options are. There's been a

934
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: lot of talk around the AFC East for him Dolphins,

935
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: where you know, we can go home and play for Miami.

936
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 1: But there's no clear cut path to the number one

937
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: job with the either of those teams. You know, if

938
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: Breeze Hall's healthy, you know, sooner rather than later he

939
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: can play. They have some other options at the at

940
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: the back position already with the Jets. We know the

941
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: Dolphins have a backfield full of guys that already know

942
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: that system. I don't think there's an ideal scenario for him.

943
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: So does he wait for the money?

944
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 7: I'd be well, I think that there's multiple things here.

945
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 7: He has significant offers. Okay, he is not going to

946
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 7: come in on a low money contract. It's going to

947
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 7: be a significant contract for Dalvin Cook. I'd be surprised

948
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 7: right now if he doesn't land in this division. Okay,

949
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 7: not Buffalo, but any of the other three teams are

950
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 7: a potential factor there. I think with Dalvin it's a

951
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 7: lot of different things. He's still only twenty seven years old.

952
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 7: He's been to four straight Pro Bowls. He should be

953
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 7: getting paid at a good level. Just got his shoulder fixed,

954
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 7: so he's in better physical shape than he's been in

955
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 7: quite a while here. You know, in terms of you know,

956
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,959
Speaker 7: contender or not, it's you know he in his mind.

957
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 7: I know Dalvin pretty well from covering him a long

958
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 7: time eleven Minnesota. You know, he's always going to think

959
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 7: he's an X factor who will make a team of

960
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 7: contender the Dalvin being on the field because of the

961
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 7: home run hitting ability and what he brings to the table,

962
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 7: that he can be that guy who boosts the team.

963
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 7: I think that any of these teams, I mean, the

964
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 7: Patriots again are the unknown in this whole deal, but

965
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 7: the Patriots with Dalvin Cook are a better team than

966
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 7: the Patriots without him. It's gonna be fascinating to see

967
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 7: how it plays out. I don't sense anything is imminent

968
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 7: right now, you know, and he may wait this thing

969
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 7: out and get a little bit closer to the season

970
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 7: because there's also injuries all over the place. Sus Seattle

971
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 7: had a couple of backs to go down the other day,

972
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 7: and then you'll never know, and all of a sudden

973
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 7: somebody might become desperate and that changes the numbers.

974
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 3: Tom, thanks appreciate you being.

975
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: With Yeah, we know you're busy, so thanks for giving

976
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: us some time. We appreciate it. That's Tom Pallisero, NFL

977
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: Network Insider. We will take a break, be back with

978
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 1: more here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health.

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00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All Right, welcome back to One

980
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: Bill's Live at training camp at Saint John Fisher and

981
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: Chris Brown. Stay task you with you. Day five in

982
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: the books, got a little little Harry. At the end

983
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: of practice today, first full padded practice, they're in a

984
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: goal line drill of sorts. I mean they're inside the

985
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: ten yard line and they run a play and with that.

986
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: Because we cannot give away strategy in any way, shape

987
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: or form based on what we see, I will just

988
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: tell you that Josh Allen was a passing target on

989
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: this particular play. He is in the end zone, the

990
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: ball is thrown to him. It is a lofted ball.

991
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: It's taking forever to get there, and he's towing the sideline,

992
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: so he slows down to stay in bounds and try

993
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: to make a play on the ball, at which point

994
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: Tarren Johnson almost runs through his rib cage from behind

995
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: and knocks him to the ground and lands on top

996
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: of him.

997
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 3: I'm laughing because the air went out of them. It

998
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:59,959
Speaker 3: went from an electric buzz watching the play every dead sign.

999
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: I think the music, you could the music everything stopped.

1000
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 3: You could hear a fly buzz. It was dead, silent.

1001
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 3: Josh was very slow to get He was very He

1002
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 3: actually didn't get up. He turned over, got on his

1003
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 3: back and sat there for a minute and then put

1004
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 3: his arm up helped him up.

1005
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: He kind of Then he went down in a crowd.

1006
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 3: He walked off a little bit, then he stopped and

1007
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 3: went down again, whereas Taron.

1008
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 2: Johnson almost fainted.

1009
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 3: Yes, Taron Johnson saw his life flash before his eyes.

1010
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 3: And now you know, now it's and now it's fine.

1011
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: Well we think he's fine.

1012
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 3: Well, he signed autographs like always.

1013
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:44,959
Speaker 2: Did sign autographs.

1014
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: I was standing with a couple of media members when

1015
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: he was walking off the practice field, and one of

1016
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 1: the masks, hey are you all right, and he's like, yeah,

1017
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: I'm all right. He was limping a little bit. I'm

1018
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: not he was limping a little bit. So maybe he

1019
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: just takes a knock and he's fine tomorrow, or maybe

1020
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: he's just got the wind knocked out of him.

1021
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 3: Maybe fight through it. He doesn't want anybody, so we'll

1022
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 3: have to see. Uh.

1023
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: And then after practice there was a little bit of

1024
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: a huddle between head coach Sean McDermott and Ken Dorsey

1025
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: and Joe Brady where it was probably discussed we're never

1026
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: running any play for the rest of camp, in which

1027
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 1: Josh Allen it's like fantastic target.

1028
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 3: It's like Jeopardy answer Yes, the answer is, don't do

1029
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 3: that ever again. What what offensive coordinator got fired trying

1030
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 3: to throw to an elite quarterback and the first day

1031
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 3: of bats and Trading camp. The answer is, Ken Dorsey,

1032
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 3: that that was You.

1033
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: Can bet that that that was about ten seconds of

1034
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: utter terror. You don't want. Everyone is standing here in

1035
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: wa let's not do that anymore. So hopefully he's no

1036
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 1: worse for way are just a little sore.

1037
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 2: I do know that.

1038
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 1: Josh, knowing how bad Tarren probably felt, went over and

1039
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: kind of hugged it out with him after practice, so

1040
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 1: he's not worrying and rolling in his bed all night

1041
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: tonight like, oh my god, I hope Josh.

1042
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 3: Terren's gonna get a fish wrapped in newspapers or or

1043
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,919
Speaker 3: a horse head and horse for those of you don't

1044
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 3: get that reference watch The Godfather. Uh that's uh yeah,

1045
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 3: So that was the Let me just say that as

1046
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 3: bad as you know, you kind of fear, but that's

1047
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 3: the highlight of practice because it was all you know, well.

1048
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: There were a lot of there was a lot of

1049
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: run game work today, a lot of run fits.

1050
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 2: A lot of those don't.

1051
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 3: Prolong touchdown passes by Josh, Those don't always lend themselves

1052
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 3: to you know, the sexy plays that draw the oo

1053
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 3: and o's.

1054
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 2: From the fans in attendance.

1055
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this though, and we can talk about

1056
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 1: this more when we come back to start the second hour,

1057
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: because Gabe Davis is picking up steam. Had a really

1058
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: good day on Sunday, backed it up again today. We'll

1059
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: discuss when we return our number two more on what

1060
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: went on in day five a training camp. Greg Russo

1061
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: coming your way about fifteen minutes after we get back,

1062
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 1: fresh off the field here on One Bill's Live presented

1063
00:49:21,360 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills rad This the One

1064
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: Bill's Lives presented by Calllida. Help all right, here we

1065
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: are our number two first Brown Steve Jasker Live at

1066
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: Bill's training camp. Day five came and went this morning tomorrow,

1067
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: Hamlin and pads for the first time since January. Second

1068
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: another hurdle, as he called it, and hopefully it's on

1069
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 1: continued onward and upward for him. In that regard, the

1070
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: middle linebacker competition continued to rotate. Today was Terrell Bernard's

1071
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 1: chance to run with the ones he did that. Brandon

1072
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 1: Bean was asked by Tom Pellisero NFL Network insider who

1073
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: was on site here today and just on our show

1074
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: last hour, and he asked him for some standouts, and

1075
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: he mentioned both Tyrel Dodson and Terrell Bernard. So interesting

1076
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: that the general manager of the football team feels those

1077
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: two have had a good first five days, among others,

1078
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 1: of course, but knowing that it's a competition position a

1079
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: position battle, knowing those two were mentioned by the general

1080
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:13,919
Speaker 1: manager is noteworthy. Another guy who's picking up steam here

1081
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: Gabe Davis and Steve and I witnessed him make while

1082
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: I saw him yesterday have a really good day. Capped

1083
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: off the two minute drill drive with a twenty five

1084
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: yard touchdown when he slipped behind the defense down the

1085
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: left sideline, pulled in a twenty five yard scoring pass

1086
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: from Josh Allen, and then today had a couple of

1087
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: big catches against Tradevius White in coverage, beat him on

1088
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: one sideline on one play and then on the other

1089
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: sideline on the other, and is really starting to kind

1090
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: of put his game together after I think what he

1091
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: would call an uneven twenty twenty two season when he

1092
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: essentially played the whole season.

1093
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 2: Hurt with a bad ankle.

1094
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: And I mentioned this to you and you kind of

1095
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: concurred with me when we were talking about it on

1096
00:51:56,160 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: the sideline. Just looking at his body type, his legs

1097
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: look bigger and more muscular this year than they did

1098
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: last year.

1099
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was we were talking about it, and I

1100
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 3: was just gonna say that as you started talking about it,

1101
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 3: I got to remember to mention that he looks like

1102
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 3: he's got a little bit thicker body type than he

1103
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 3: did a year ago. He looks stronger all the way around.

1104
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 3: He's playing better he's and I remember what it was like. Man,

1105
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 3: he dragged the injuries around last year like luggage. I mean,

1106
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 3: you just can't. You'd never escape him, even when you're

1107
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 3: at home. They hurt, you know what I mean. We

1108
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 3: all know what it's like to, you know, have a

1109
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 3: bad ankle or whatever, because you know you can sit down,

1110
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 3: but it's still you know, you still feel it. He

1111
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 3: was living like that for four months and then trying

1112
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 3: to play pro football at the same time. To come

1113
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 3: out and start working out, he probably felt it. We

1114
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 3: didn't see it too much in the OTAs we didn't

1115
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 3: watch him very much. Today we watch him all the time.

1116
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 3: We watch him every day. He's different. It's got to

1117
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 3: just feel so much better. And he's playing like he

1118
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 3: feels better, much like Tradavius White is. You know, he's

1119
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 3: playing like back to his old self. I think Gabe

1120
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 3: Day feels better than he has in a long time,

1121
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 3: and his play is showing it. There's no question that

1122
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 3: for good reason, the Bills feel like and you know

1123
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 3: Greg Russo will ask him about it about you know,

1124
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 3: they have this core guy, these core guys, and I

1125
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 3: think they feel good about their core guys even though

1126
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 3: they had enough, you know, last year didn't finish the

1127
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 3: way they wanted to and all this stuff happened. I

1128
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 3: think they feel really good about the core group they have,

1129
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 3: and Gabe Davis is certainly one of those guys, and

1130
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 3: I think he's showing it at this point of camp.

1131
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, And he just told us, you know, last week

1132
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: when he addressed the media after one of the first practices,

1133
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 1: he said, because of the injury, I felt a step slow.

1134
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: And I mean that's hard to play that way in

1135
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: a league where the margins are so narrow and the

1136
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: level of competition is so high, and you're not at

1137
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 1: your best and you're trying to make it happen anyway.

1138
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:56,760
Speaker 2: That is tough.

1139
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's not it's not a great headspace to

1140
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 3: be in. That's where you chronically get when it's time

1141
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,959
Speaker 3: to retire. You know, you can't practice hard, you can't

1142
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,919
Speaker 3: run hard, you can't prepare well, and therefore you can't

1143
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 3: play like you think you should be able to play.

1144
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,439
Speaker 3: And it's a bad headspace. And for a young guy

1145
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 3: dealing with an injury, that's where they get, you know, prematurely.

1146
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 3: They know it's gonna go away as soon as their

1147
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 3: ankle gets better, but it's it's that headspace where you

1148
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 3: want to play really well and you just can't because

1149
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 3: it's you're physically unable to. Man it's but you're still

1150
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 3: You're still in there and you have the expectations. You know.

1151
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 3: It's a tough way to live. And I think I

1152
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 3: think that really war on him last year and that

1153
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 3: you know, and you know, as the extra things that

1154
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 3: we talked about that the whole team was going through.

1155
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 3: I think these guys that were kind of dragging around

1156
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 3: an injury, him and Spencer Brown, guys like that Rousseau,

1157
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 3: they're all kind of doing that last year.

1158
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: And you could tell another guy that is showing up,

1159
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 1: you know, here and there now is Trudevius White had

1160
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: a nice pass breakup on Stefan Diggs on a pass

1161
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: over the middle during one on one drills where really

1162
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: the offensive players have the advantage because they have the

1163
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: entire field to work with with no other traffic in

1164
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: their way, and Tredevias slipped underneath and knocked a pass

1165
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: away for a PBu. So that was good to see

1166
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: him rounding into form. The newest guy on the roster,

1167
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: Andy Isabella. Second day of practice still not doing any

1168
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: team work yet because he's still learning the terminology of

1169
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: the offense, let alone the concepts and the systems in

1170
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: the passing game. But I made Steve watch him on

1171
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: purpose for an extended period of time because what this

1172
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: guy brings is undeniable speed. Ran a four to three

1173
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: to one at the Combine when he came out in

1174
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. I want to say it was and you know,

1175
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: first two years with the Cardinals limited action there, bounced

1176
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: around a little bit, was with the Ravens for a

1177
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: while last year, and now lands in Buffalo. His speed

1178
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: is undeniable. The guy's got machine gun feet and just

1179
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 1: really rips through routes and is in and out in

1180
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: a hiccup because he's built so low to the ground.

1181
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: It just five eight and change and they've got him

1182
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: back doing return work.

1183
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 3: He's got really thick leg He's built strong from the

1184
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 3: waist down, as like just like Hardy. Hardy is also

1185
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 3: built like that from the waist down. They got it.

1186
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 3: You know, they got a good power plant and thick thighs,

1187
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 3: and you know they're put together from the waist down

1188
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 3: and they can really move. And I'll say this about Isabelle.

1189
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,959
Speaker 3: When you're watching him, I would say he needs work

1190
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 3: on his release against press as a receiver, but man,

1191
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 3: oh man, if he gets a step, he's you know,

1192
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,760
Speaker 3: it's over. And even when he catches kicks, goes through drills,

1193
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 3: he's got an explosiveness where he gets from zero to

1194
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 3: to high speed really fast. That's what that's a difference

1195
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 3: maker in the NFL.

1196
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: I wonder there's a part of me that wonders this. Steve,

1197
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: you can tell me if you think there's some validity

1198
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: of this or not. So, Nahim Hines was probably the.

1199
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 2: Game plan for returns.

1200
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,479
Speaker 1: He would be their full time returner and then maybe

1201
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: Deontay Hardy would fill in here and there on punts.

1202
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: Maybe if they start working Nahim Heines into the run game,

1203
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: he's kind of the fail safe backup option. Now Hines

1204
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: is completely out of the equation, And I wonder if

1205
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: the Bills internally said, look, we had plans to use

1206
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: Hardy a good deal on offense. He can't be doing

1207
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: full time return work too. Let's get some other people

1208
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: to add into that mix to see if we can

1209
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: find somebody to handle return duties full time so that

1210
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: we can give Hardy a bigger role on offense and

1211
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: then maybe a part time role on special teams instead

1212
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,439
Speaker 1: of the other way around. So I wonder if that's

1213
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: kind of somewhat part of the decision in bringing Isabella

1214
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: in for a look.

1215
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 3: Sie. When they put together a roster, certainly they want

1216
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 3: guys who can do more than one thing. But if

1217
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 3: they've got a guy that can do punts and kickoffs,

1218
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,919
Speaker 3: a role that takes too much focus. So they want

1219
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 3: guys who They do want guys that are versatile, well,

1220
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 3: like a Micah Hyde. He'll go back and field punts

1221
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 3: and make the right decisions and we saw him almost

1222
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 3: break one in the in the New England playoff game

1223
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 3: two years ago when he caught that bouncing punt went

1224
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 3: down the sidelines to put a bow on that game.

1225
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 3: But if a guy's going to be a return guy,

1226
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 3: they they do in their roster formulations. They do have

1227
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 3: a space for a guy to return kicks, but it

1228
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 3: makes a difference whether the guys are running back or

1229
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 3: a wide receiver. It makes a big difference for them

1230
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 3: who's it gonna be and if they because the rest

1231
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 3: of the roster has to get filled out. If they

1232
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 3: got an extra wide receiver. Well then what are they

1233
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 3: gonna do if they get an extra running back? What

1234
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 3: are they gonna do? So and how they fill that out?

1235
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 3: They have one guy for one thing and one guy

1236
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 3: for the other, one guy for punts, one guy for kicks.

1237
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 3: It throws a wrench or you know, a curveball into it.

1238
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 3: Because each of those groups, each of those two have

1239
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 3: to be back on game day by somebody on the

1240
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 3: roster that's gonna be on the roster every week. So

1241
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 3: you know, they're looking for pieces. They're looking for pieces

1242
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 3: of their roster that they can put together. And you

1243
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 3: know this Andy Isabella might be one of them. And

1244
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what you can he's a different cat.

1245
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he can move.

1246
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 2: He can really really move.

1247
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: We have to turn now, though, to one Greg Russo,

1248
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: who joined us to discuss the state of the defensive line,

1249
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: its depth and talent, among the whole slew of other topics.

1250
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 1: Here is the Bill's third year defensive end. All right, Greg, welcome,

1251
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: thanks for spending some time with us. Fresh off the

1252
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: field from first day in pads. First day in pads,

1253
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: you might get some guys amped up a little. What

1254
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: did the coaches kind of say, maybe last night in

1255
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: meetings to kind of make sure everybody's on the same

1256
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: page because you're ultimately playing against your own teammates.

1257
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, I

1258
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 4: feel like we play the game in pad. Obviously, playing

1259
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 4: and short and stuff is important as well, but just

1260
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 4: being in that element that you're going to be in

1261
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 4: every Sunday during the season, I feel like it's really important.

1262
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 4: So that was kind of message that they gave us.

1263
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 4: And I mean we went out there and I feel

1264
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 4: like both both sides practice hard, you know. Obviously, I

1265
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 4: know I wish I had a couple players that I

1266
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 4: wanted back, and it takes a little couple of days.

1267
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 4: I feel like they get used to the pass, if

1268
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 4: not wearing it for whatever it is, maybe seven eight months. Yeah,

1269
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 4: I mean definitely can.

1270
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 5: Start for that.

1271
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 3: What was your takeaway on the way your defense is

1272
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,439
Speaker 3: coming together, Sean McDermot, Have you noticed anything different about

1273
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 3: the way that particularly now in paths where they're starting

1274
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 3: to you know, all right, now let's see if we

1275
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 3: can do some stuff. Anything different about Sean calling those

1276
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 3: ins to the leslie? Uh?

1277
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I feel like chrisch McDermot does a

1278
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,919
Speaker 4: real good job of explaining everything, breaking it down to us,

1279
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 4: and he's just real detailed with his approach, whether it's first, second,

1280
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 4: third down. But at the end of the day, you know,

1281
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 4: we got we gotta make it work on the field

1282
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 4: as a player, So we really taking upon ourselves to

1283
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 4: go out there, be physical, play fast, and also play

1284
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 4: Smarcus when you know what the dude, then you could

1285
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 4: play the fastest at the fastest Beeed possible.

1286
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 1: Leonard Floyd comes in in June, and we've heard Vaughn

1287
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: talk about this, Like Vaughn's more than willing to help you,

1288
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 1: you know, pointers, tips, things like that. But at the

1289
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: same time, your body type is completely different from his,

1290
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 1: so there's some things that don't translate. Leonard's body type

1291
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: is a little bit closer to yours, long, you know,

1292
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: long limbed. Are there some things you can pull from

1293
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 1: him as a VET that may cater more to your

1294
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: game because of your body type.

1295
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's kind of just watching the way

1296
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 4: he rushes. I feel like we rushed kind of similar

1297
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 4: we used to Beeed. We use a lot of power

1298
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 4: to so, like you said, just being longer guys, but

1299
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 4: we definitely talk a lot and kind of bounce ideas

1300
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 4: off of each other and just see what we did well,

1301
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 4: see what we did wrong, and see how both of

1302
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 4: us can get better.

1303
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 3: Got a lot of guys, a couple of new faces

1304
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 3: in the room. Plus you're you've got a couple of

1305
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 3: new faces on the other side of the ball, both

1306
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 3: guards brand new and a lot of guys that are

1307
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 3: backing up. What how how's that chemistry going? How do

1308
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 3: you feel like those the other new offensive guards are

1309
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 3: playing you? I know you've moved down inside a little

1310
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 3: admit this year. Talk a little bit with that transition

1311
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 3: for you and the and the new guys that you

1312
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 3: can you know, look through your face mask at.

1313
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 4: I mean, it's been fun so far for both of

1314
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 4: us on both sides. I know, I know I played

1315
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 4: a lot of inside in college and even played inside

1316
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 4: with some last year, So I mean, it's been fun

1317
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 4: to go in there. And those guys are competitors just

1318
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 4: like I am. So those new guards they look good

1319
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 4: in there.

1320
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe you can push this agenda for me,

1321
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: But I really like with Floyd here now him and

1322
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 1: Vaughn on the outside, you kick an inside where you're

1323
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: familiar because you did it at Miami. You've done it

1324
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 1: here a little bit. You line up next to Ed

1325
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: and here's our NASCAR package.

1326
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 2: What do you think?

1327
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 5: No, that's fire.

1328
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 1: You want to push that for me, work on that

1329
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: in the meetings because I want to see it.

1330
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 3: He wants to see it and take credit for it,

1331
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 3: for sure.

1332
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 2: For sure. What do you like that? Though?

1333
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 5: I mean I like it. I like it a lot.

1334
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 4: I feel like it kind of brings out all of

1335
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 4: our skill sets, you know, having flown on out there.

1336
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 4: Obviously we're all fast, but but they're both Just if

1337
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 4: they're both screaming off the edge and then and then

1338
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 4: me and and our the middle of making our moves

1339
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 4: inside moves or or running games with the being on

1340
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 4: our side, all of that stuff could be real lethal.

1341
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, you can't double everybody.

1342
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 2: Somebody's getting a one on one somewhere. Abody's gonna win.

1343
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 3: Tell us a little bit about your off seat. You

1344
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 3: came back coming in third year. Yeah, kind of a

1345
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,959
Speaker 3: big year for some guys, have you kind of because

1346
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 3: I know it's as we're transitioning to the proach. You

1347
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 3: got to take care of everything in the offseason. You

1348
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 3: got to get your own support network. You got to

1349
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 3: find your own place to train. You gotta get your

1350
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 3: own routine. Have that go for you this year? And

1351
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 3: did you do anything different than you haven't been either

1352
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 3: wanted to do or able to do in the passage

1353
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 3: getting to you know what I mean? Did you take

1354
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 3: it a step forward in their off season training?

1355
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 5: I wouldn't. I wouldn't say it changed too much. You know.

1356
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 4: I always lifted and run pretty hard, but just definitely

1357
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 4: worked on just a small little pastor of things that

1358
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 4: I thought that I could work on, just like my

1359
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 4: my double swapes and stuff like that, just little little

1360
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 4: details from the season. Also just you play with my

1361
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 4: hands more and using my leverage, keeping my pad level

1362
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 4: down because as a taller guy, you got to be

1363
01:03:58,080 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 4: able to stay low. So this is a couple of

1364
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 4: little things like that that I feel like go correlate

1365
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 4: directly to the way I play in my game. Those

1366
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 4: are things I kind of worked on during the all seasons.

1367
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 4: But everything else is pretty much the same.

1368
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 3: Do you have some dudes did you that help you

1369
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 3: with them?

1370
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 4: Like?

1371
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 3: Are they big enough guys to lay?

1372
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1373
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't help you do that. I'm like not

1374
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 3: tall enough.

1375
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 4: No, In fact, I was working with the Forrest Butler

1376
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 4: and Eric Armstain. We were working out in the off season,

1377
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 4: so I was just trying to take stuff for your game.

1378
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 4: They were at Clemson, we were all at Clempton, So

1379
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 4: I was just trying to take things from their games,

1380
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 4: how they played with their hands, use their leverage, just

1381
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 4: little things like that, because obviously those guys have a

1382
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 4: similar body styles to mine.

1383
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 1: Right, we had Brandon being on the show a couple

1384
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 1: of days ago, and you know, your name came up.

1385
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 1: You know, you're entering year three, so is Spencer Brown.

1386
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 1: You guys are playing important roles. You know, we want

1387
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 1: to kind of see you guys break out, which I

1388
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:46,439
Speaker 1: think you were on course to do last year before

1389
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 1: the damn high ankle sprain popped up, because you had

1390
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 1: four sacks in your first four games. But Brandon had

1391
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: a funny comment I don't know he said. When I

1392
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 1: was talking to Greg, I told him everything he's doing

1393
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 1: is great, but I need a little a hole in him,

1394
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 1: like attitude wise, because I mean, you know, we only

1395
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: interact with you off the field.

1396
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know your parents raised you, right, You're a

1397
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 2: good guy.

1398
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: You know you're nice to everybody on the field, it's

1399
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,919
Speaker 1: gotta be different. Not to say you're not you can't

1400
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 1: get nasty on the field, but what do you think

1401
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: Brandon was trying to pull out of you to help

1402
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 1: you take that next step? Because we know it's an

1403
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 1: emotional game. Yeah, can you turn up the nasty?

1404
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1405
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 4: I mean I feel like I feel like I did

1406
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 4: last year for sure. And he was just saying pretty

1407
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:30,959
Speaker 4: much like this, play physical, just have that edge to you.

1408
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 5: Just go out there and uh kind of.

1409
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 4: Just have that dominating like mentality at all times. And

1410
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 4: it's definitely something that I feel like I got.

1411
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 3: I got better.

1412
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 4: Like you said, I'm just I'm a chill like lady

1413
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 4: back persons kind of just like by nature. I'm not

1414
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 4: like all up in everybody's face and all that. But

1415
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 4: like it was definitely it was definitely just I feel

1416
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 4: like speaking to me playing more physical and just me

1417
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 4: playing like that at all times.

1418
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and to you, I mean, to Brandon's credit, he

1419
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 1: said I told him to put some a hole in

1420
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 1: his game and he did it, so it's not like

1421
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 1: he still needs more of that. He saw you when

1422
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: he asked you to pull it out of yourself.

1423
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, for sure, I'm gonna keep going up

1424
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 4: with it.

1425
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that.

1426
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, So give us an idea about you know, as

1427
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 3: you as you line up the new team, new field,

1428
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 3: new vibe. I mean, it's the same old training camp.

1429
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 3: Sometimes it does feel like Groundhog Day, where day thirty

1430
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 3: seven is just like day four was. Yeah, it give

1431
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 3: us an idea of what do you notice this year.

1432
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 3: Is there any difference? You know, all these new faces

1433
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 3: and stuff, maybe that's the biggest difference. But give us

1434
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 3: your vibe about this camp and how different it is

1435
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 3: in what ways it is different from other camps.

1436
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 4: I feel like it's not too different, but at the

1437
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 4: same time, it's just a new group of guys. Like

1438
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 4: you said, you know, we got some some young players

1439
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 4: stepping up, like like Cyrus and the inside and Don't

1440
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 4: doulting and stuff. So you got some new faces there.

1441
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 4: We got some we got obviously Chris McDermot coach of defense.

1442
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 4: So this is there's a few changes, but it's not

1443
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 4: like a crazy change because we are I feel like

1444
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 4: the core of the team is still here.

1445
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 5: Still a lot of dudes.

1446
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 4: Here from last year, Josh Von Miika, ed de Kwan Knox,

1447
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 4: So it's kind of it's not gonna say it's exactly

1448
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 4: the same, but we still got that same core group

1449
01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 4: of people.

1450
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 5: That were here last year in the year before that.

1451
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 1: I know Coach Washington always wants you guys to be

1452
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 1: dominant up front and get pressure without having to blitz.

1453
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 1: But I mean, injuries really sidetracked you guys big time

1454
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 1: last year, especially on the front. I mean you with

1455
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 1: the high ankle, trying to play through that Von we

1456
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 1: know with the ACL come Thanksgiving ed high ankle, and

1457
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 1: then fill Big Phil with the rotator cuff and then

1458
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 1: even Daikwan in the playoff game can't play. So it

1459
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 1: looked like the personnel department said, Okay, we have talented players,

1460
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: but let's get some depth too, And so now you

1461
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 1: guys pick up players the caliber of Leonard Floyd and

1462
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 1: Poona Ford in June, in May and June, I mean

1463
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 1: that's like almost unheard of. So to have those guys,

1464
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 1: proven veteran players in the fold to go with everybody

1465
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 1: already had, how lethal does that make you guys? I mean,

1466
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 1: it's not like eight deep that you could roll anymore.

1467
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 2: Nine or ten.

1468
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 4: You're not lying, and I feel like, I feel like

1469
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 4: that's gonna really help us out. You know, we're gonna

1470
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 4: have a lot of moving parts, and it's gonna be

1471
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 4: cool to see everybody get different looks and kind of

1472
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 4: slipping at different places, whether whoever, whether the play is

1473
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 4: third down, the first time, whatever. I feel like we

1474
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 4: have a lot of packages and just have a lot

1475
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 4: of like flexibility and who we want to feel, what

1476
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 4: personal packages we want to push it there, and what

1477
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 4: looks we want to give the offense. So I feel

1478
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 4: like it's gonna be a funny year from that aspect.

1479
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 1: Now, it's the only challenge with that getting a custom

1480
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 1: And you're probably doing a lot of this in camp.

1481
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 1: You're not just playing off the same two guys, you know,

1482
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 1: anymore you might be playing you might need to learn

1483
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:34,759
Speaker 1: how to play off.

1484
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:36,480
Speaker 2: Of this guy, five six guys.

1485
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 1: So how how much more time and reps does that

1486
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:41,639
Speaker 1: take to kind of get a good feel for who

1487
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 1: you're with?

1488
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 4: It takes more, for sure, you know, you can't. You

1489
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 4: gotta be And I feel like they're doing a good

1490
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 4: job of mixing up the rotation out there, so we're

1491
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 4: not going with the same people every single time, because

1492
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 4: you got I might be rushing next to Poona or

1493
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:55,759
Speaker 4: rushing next to de Kwan at Tim big Field, whoever's

1494
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 4: in there, Like big Field still.

1495
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 5: Gonna he's still working on coming back. So we got

1496
01:08:58,680 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 5: a lot of faces in there.

1497
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 4: So you're right, being able to rush next to different people,

1498
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 4: you have to rush in a different type of style.

1499
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 3: Have you gotten any inkling that? I mean last year

1500
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,479
Speaker 3: they rotated you know, you front four out a bunch,

1501
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 3: and they always going to do that again last but

1502
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 3: they didn't do that in the back end. Those guys

1503
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 3: are like they once they get on the field, they

1504
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 3: like their names on the field, right, I mean, do

1505
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 3: you get any idea maybe that there's that with Sean

1506
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:24,440
Speaker 3: calling the defense, they may do some of more personnel

1507
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 3: shifting around at all.

1508
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,680
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not sure. I'm not sure, but I

1509
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 4: mean I know for sure we do a good job

1510
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 4: and our group that is trying to stay ready and

1511
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 4: kind of all prepare as if we are the ones starting,

1512
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 4: because like sometimes you get in the game and then

1513
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 4: even though we rotated a lot of somebody might get

1514
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 4: a hot hand, and if that person gets that hot hand,

1515
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 4: like they're gonna probably stay in the game for the

1516
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 4: most part. So I feel like just being able to

1517
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 4: all stay ready really gives us a lot of flexibility and,

1518
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 4: like you said, a lot of debt.

1519
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 1: Last one for me, Greg, I know the preseason has

1520
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,640
Speaker 1: to come first, but that Week one game is a

1521
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 1: biggin because it's a division game and you gotta go

1522
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 1: on the road. I think you guys already you know

1523
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a hostile environment because those Jets fans

1524
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:04,639
Speaker 1: are stupid. They think they're going to the super Bowl,

1525
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 1: you know. And I know they got Aaron Rodgers now,

1526
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 1: and I get it, but you know it's not it's

1527
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 1: the anniversary of nine to eleven. Also, it's prime time.

1528
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 1: How do you kind of and and I understand we

1529
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 1: got three precent season games first, but just how do

1530
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 1: you prepare for environments like that where you know it's

1531
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 1: gonna be hostile. Maybe it's less of an issue for

1532
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 1: you guys on d than it is for the guys

1533
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 1: on offense that have to communicate with the crowd going nuts,

1534
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 1: But how do you how do you prep yourself mentally

1535
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 1: for those kinds of atmospheres?

1536
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Coach Washington always says like be like,

1537
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 4: he always says the environment changes, but we don't, So

1538
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 4: we kind of I noticed as a d Low we

1539
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 4: have that mindset. I know the whole team is super resilient,

1540
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 4: and also I know personally, I kind of just tried

1541
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 4: to be where my feet are at. So like, if

1542
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 4: I'm on the bus on the way to the game,

1543
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 4: my feet are on the bus on the way to

1544
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 4: the game. If I'm standing on the twenty yard line

1545
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 4: in preaking worm ups, that's where I am. So I

1546
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:58,680
Speaker 4: kind of keep it like small picture and kind I

1547
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 4: kind of just don't try to look at too much.

1548
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 4: It really helps me to stay levelhead. Whether I'm playing

1549
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 4: at home Arrowhead, New York, it doesn't really matter. It's

1550
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 4: just like I'm on that grass and I'm just locked

1551
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 4: into tackle across from me and get into the quarterback.

1552
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 3: Last one for me. So last year, you guys come

1553
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 3: in and you were preseason favorites to go the whole

1554
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 3: way up. This year you're almost being discounted, even though

1555
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 3: in some ways we think the team's way better than

1556
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 3: it was a year ago. What change does that change

1557
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 3: anything for you guys? I mean, you've got to be

1558
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:30,680
Speaker 3: aware of the conversations, and you know, whether they're respectful disrespectful,

1559
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 3: they count you out or count you in. You got

1560
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 3: to be aware of it. How does that affect you

1561
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:37,440
Speaker 3: guys at all?

1562
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 4: I don't think it affects us too much, honestly. But

1563
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 4: at the same time, I know, just personally, I like

1564
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 4: being like counted out or or like being underdog, kind

1565
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 4: of just like staying low key, and then when that

1566
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,560
Speaker 4: time comes, it feels awesome to go out there and

1567
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 4: be able to show off. So I mean, for me,

1568
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter at all, And I'm sure a lot

1569
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 4: of my teammates got the same attitude. And I know

1570
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 4: that's just kind of like that's the brand of how

1571
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 4: we play and how we operate here. We're like a

1572
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 4: real we try to really stay humbling, hungry, and all

1573
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 4: the times to ask you guys, I've probably heard a

1574
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 4: million times, so just we're just like we're just sitting here,

1575
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 4: we're just working, and we're gonna be ready for the

1576
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 4: moment it come.

1577
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 5: They can count us in, count us out.

1578
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 4: Whatever.

1579
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 1: Thanks Greg, Thanks for the time, Appreciate it as always,

1580
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 1: Stay hydrated, stay healthy, all right, look forward to seeing

1581
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:15,680
Speaker 1: you out there on the field real soon.

1582
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:16,680
Speaker 5: Yes, sir, appreciate y'all.

1583
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 3: That's Greg Russo.

1584
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 1: Joining us here on one Bill's Live. We'll take a break,

1585
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 1: be back with more here in just a couple Stay tuned.

1586
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 3: All right back here.

1587
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 1: On one Bill's Live. Chris Brown Steve Tasker will do

1588
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 1: a good conversation there with Greg Russo, who's had a

1589
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 1: good camp as well. We should mention that was another

1590
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 1: player that Brandon Bean pointed out when he was interviewed

1591
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 1: by NFL Networks Tom Peli Sara while on site here today,

1592
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 1: a guy we had on in the first hour of

1593
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 1: the show. So I I'm telling you, man, I think

1594
01:12:57,080 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 1: year three for Rousseau and Spencer Brown could very well

1595
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 1: make a difference for this team because the number one

1596
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,640
Speaker 1: they played two very important positions. And what do we

1597
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:12,560
Speaker 1: make of Greg Russo telling us he worked with Defores

1598
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:19,640
Speaker 1: Buckner and Eric Armstead, two veteran interior defensive linemen, to

1599
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 1: get some tricks to the trade and some tips to

1600
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 1: add to his technique.

1601
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 3: Arsenal, Well, we've already seen you know, he's he played

1602
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,639
Speaker 3: a lot of that inside in college. Maybe he knows too,

1603
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,639
Speaker 3: Maybe this is their vision that they've shared. He didn't

1604
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 3: say anything about it, but we've seen him line up

1605
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 3: different spots, but those are two pretty good pass rushers.

1606
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 1: Too well, they are, but pass rushing from an interior position.

1607
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 1: I just wonder if it's an indication that he's expecting

1608
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:50,680
Speaker 1: to get lined up in there a good deal. And

1609
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 1: I mean, once Vaughn comes back, Steve, you know that

1610
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 1: NASCAR package that I was trying to speak into existence

1611
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:00,080
Speaker 1: with Leonard Floyd and Von Miller on the outside and

1612
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 1: then Greg Russeau with Ed Oliver inside, that would I mean,

1613
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 1: he was doing that this summer. You wonder what his

1614
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 1: exit interview was with the coaching staff and Eric Washington, like, hey,

1615
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,600
Speaker 1: let's get some interior techniques so when we slide you

1616
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 1: in there, you're more effective in there. And then he

1617
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 1: comes to camp. I mean we've already seen him there here.

1618
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, sure, And maybe I don't know, maybe it

1619
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 3: was that far back, but think about it. They ain't

1620
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 3: get Leonard Floyd too late, so they didn't have any

1621
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 3: idea that that was gonna happen, and otherwise he was

1622
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 3: just gonna be the same cast of character.

1623
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 2: They did kick him inside last year too.

1624
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 3: Though, so maybe they said, you know what, we like that,

1625
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 3: we're gonna give you a chance to get on the field.

1626
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 3: We need more from you. And we need better pass rushers,

1627
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 3: and if we can keep you on the field and

1628
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 3: put somebody on the edge, we're gonna do it. Maybe

1629
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 3: they told him that, I don't know, but it certainly

1630
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 3: makes some sense. He's got the experience to do it,

1631
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 3: he's got the frame that can do it. And also too,

1632
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 3: it just makes it's common sense. You put that guy

1633
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 3: in the on a defensive tackle spot, he's righting in

1634
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 3: the quarterback's face. You got a guy like Tua who's

1635
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 3: you know, six foot six ' to one, Russo towers

1636
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 3: over him. Well, right, it's gonna be. It's gonna be rust.

1637
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 1: The arm length is even more of a disadvantage for

1638
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 1: a guard than it would be for a tackle who

1639
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 1: aceeevably has longer arms.

1640
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 3: It's exactly the same kind of thing where you got

1641
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 3: a tall middle linebacker who carries the tight end. You

1642
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 3: kind of gotta you can't feel like you can throw

1643
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,719
Speaker 3: it around the guy to get it in there. Rousseau

1644
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 3: is gonna be. It's gonna be like, you know, throwing

1645
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 3: over a guy holding two tennis rackets. You know it's tough.

1646
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 1: And not only that, if he does get home, I mean,

1647
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 1: he's got that arm over moved on a guard like

1648
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 1: who's six two sixty three instead of a tackle who's

1649
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:35,719
Speaker 1: six six sixty seven.

1650
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's just by see you later.

1651
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:41,640
Speaker 3: Right, And he's long and he's got some length, and

1652
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 3: he plays with really good leverage.

1653
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 1: And you're not gonna double Leonard Floyd. You're not gonna

1654
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 1: double Von Miller.

1655
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:48,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1656
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 1: So now you're looking at single matchups for russel.

1657
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 3: And if you've got an aggressive defensive coordinator that we've heard,

1658
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 3: we're gonna get it described as such and they send

1659
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 3: a fifth guy, Yeah, it's gonna be singled up and

1660
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 3: you better get rid of the ball quick, you know.

1661
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 3: And that means if you're gonna get rid of it

1662
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 3: quick and the defensive defense knows, you're going to somebody's

1663
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 3: gonna be sitting on a route, you know, So hopefully

1664
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 3: it'll lead to turnovers. And that's what the idea is.

1665
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 3: So it's interesting to think about. There's a lot going on.

1666
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 3: We talk about all the guys on offense who were

1667
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 3: talking about James Cook, Dalton Kinkaid, Dawson, Knox, Diggs, Davis. Great,

1668
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 3: it's fun, but man on the other side of the ball,

1669
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 3: it's no different. Those guys up front have got some options,

1670
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 3: and the secondary is as good and as deep as

1671
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 3: it's ever been.

1672
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 1: You mentioned Dalton kincaid. He is probably the story of

1673
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 1: training camp, just from an unknown perspective in terms of

1674
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 1: just what the bills we're getting. I think it's I

1675
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:51,719
Speaker 1: know it's only five days of camp, but the pads

1676
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 1: went on today and nothing changed in the passing game

1677
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 1: as far as his effectiveness is concerned. So I think

1678
01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 1: we're safe at this point in time. I'm saying this

1679
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 1: rookie is on the fast track to being a considerable

1680
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 1: contributor for this football team.

1681
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 3: It looks like if they took the field on opening day,

1682
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:14,799
Speaker 3: if it was tomorrow, you and I both would expect

1683
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 3: him to get significant snaps. Yeah, that doesn't mean it's

1684
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,720
Speaker 3: gonna happen. And certainly you look at around at some

1685
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:21,639
Speaker 3: of the other draft picks they've had in recent years,

1686
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 3: and it hasn't been true for them, James Cook being

1687
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 3: one of them, Khalil Shakir being one of them. I mean,

1688
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:33,680
Speaker 3: certainly not in the first round draft pick. Tyer Elam,

1689
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 3: I think Dalton kin kid is going to be different

1690
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 3: than that. I think if they started, like I said,

1691
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 3: I think he's getting reps week one this year. If everything,

1692
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 3: all things considered, and everything's equal.

1693
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 1: He just has a knack for finding space and voids

1694
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 1: in the defense. Early on the down, we were sitting,

1695
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 1: which leads to quick and easy answers for Josh.

1696
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 3: We were sitting there again today and we're at the

1697
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 3: raw into the field. They switch things and they were

1698
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:03,640
Speaker 3: going the other way, and I look over and I

1699
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 3: see kin kaid I reaches a spears one with one

1700
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 3: hand and as he pulls it in, he goes over

1701
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 3: and falls and rolls over like a summersault. Nobody's around,

1702
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 3: you know, it's a it's in a team period, but

1703
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 3: he does it, gets up and you know it gets

1704
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 3: extra yards after he spears it with one hand and

1705
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 3: does a rollover. Is it catching? He's catching everything. I

1706
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 3: mean that's been that was the word coming out. He's

1707
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 3: got meat hooks, right, you think, guy, he's got he's

1708
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 3: got big hands. And also, you know you've said it

1709
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 3: a couple of times. They they do these drills and

1710
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 3: the ball comes in. You can't hear.

1711
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:38,719
Speaker 1: It hit his hands very soft.

1712
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh, it's gonna be fun to watch. And

1713
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 3: as many options and fun stuff and creative stuff, as

1714
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 3: we've seen on the offensive side, though sometimes you've got,

1715
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 3: like Greg Russeau, you get an inkling that maybe they're

1716
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 3: gonna do a little bit on the defensive side where

1717
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:54,719
Speaker 3: they have not been that creative.

1718
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 1: True, I think I think we've seen already because I

1719
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 1: noted this on Sunday being out here yesterday, the pass

1720
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 1: rush was noticeable. I mean, there were a lot of

1721
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:10,720
Speaker 1: quarterbacks throwing off their back foot yesterday, and Sean was

1722
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:15,799
Speaker 1: dialing some things up like DB's and linebackers coming, lineman

1723
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:20,839
Speaker 1: dropping out, an overload, you know, those kinds of things

1724
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 1: causing consternation and concern and messed up assignments by an

1725
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 1: opposing offensive line. There were times where he had the

1726
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:35,679
Speaker 1: offensive front confused yesterday in practice and pressure was coming

1727
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 1: in hot as a result, putt a forward intercepts a

1728
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:43,680
Speaker 1: screen pass because he completely slipped under the blockers that

1729
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 1: went out in front on the screen and it was

1730
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 1: I mean, it was very much a look what I

1731
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 1: found kind of interception. But he's there because of the

1732
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 1: pressure that came off the other side on a screenplay.

1733
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:57,719
Speaker 1: So like they had the right play called for pressure

1734
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 1: that was coming, but it got complete blown up because

1735
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 1: it went to the strength of the blitz side and

1736
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 1: there's Puna Ford sitting there with a free loaf of

1737
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 1: bread to take seventy two yards the other way for

1738
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 1: a touchdown. So Sean has done a lot, I think

1739
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:14,599
Speaker 1: through the first five days of camp to challenge Ken

1740
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 1: Dorsey in the camp setting to say, hey, come up

1741
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 1: with answers because you're gonna see some of this stuff

1742
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 1: come the regular season and you have to have that

1743
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 1: blocked up so your quarterback's.

1744
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:25,799
Speaker 2: Not getting whacked.

1745
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe that's why they're throwing it to Josh, get

1746
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 3: little a little taste of his own medicine, get some

1747
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:37,639
Speaker 3: exotic stuff going. But you're right, I've really been excited

1748
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 3: to see what's been going on on both sides of

1749
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 3: the ball. I'm excited to see this defense with Sean

1750
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 3: McDermott call in the plays. It doesn't it's not an

1751
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 3: automatic one hundred percent change from what they've been doing

1752
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 3: with Leslie Fraser, and I wouldn't expect him to want

1753
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 3: to because they've been a top five defense for four

1754
01:20:56,439 --> 01:21:00,639
Speaker 3: straight years now. So I think there's probably little pressure

1755
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 3: on Sean to at least maintained that ranking. And that

1756
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:05,520
Speaker 3: kind of quality. But I think one of the things

1757
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 3: that both sides of the football are going to focus

1758
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 3: on or and are focusing on, is one getting takeaways

1759
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 3: on defense and two efficiency on offense, not dropping the ball,

1760
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 3: not fumbling the ball.

1761
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, there were a number of players rotating up to

1762
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 1: the next team ahead of them on the depth chart yesterday.

1763
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 1: Since it was Sunday, I'll run down the list of

1764
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 1: guys who were rotating up to get reps. So second

1765
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:36,879
Speaker 1: teamers rotating up to get reps with the ones, Tamar Hamlin,

1766
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 1: Taylor Rapp, Christian Benford, Saran Neil, Shaq Lawson, Poona Ford,

1767
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:48,639
Speaker 1: and Terrell Bernard rotating up to the twos. Joel Wilson,

1768
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:52,559
Speaker 1: an undrafted rookie tight end, Justin Shorter, the fifth round pick,

1769
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 1: Jared Maiden, third team safety, Dean Marlow, Kendall Vickers, and

1770
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 1: Traven Howard, the linebacker who came over from the Rams.

1771
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 1: Others Osiris Torrance, who was the right guard today with

1772
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 1: the first team for the second day in a row,

1773
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 1: aj Epanessa kyer Elam got some first team reps yesterday.

1774
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 1: Justin Shorter, Trent Sherfield, Shack Laws, and Pooniford, Tim Settle

1775
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:25,879
Speaker 1: and Damian Harris. Twos that were rotating up or rotating

1776
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 1: up with the twos Joel Wilson, JaMarcus Ingram, So you know,

1777
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 1: and today we saw that happen, maybe not to the

1778
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:41,879
Speaker 1: same degree, but it did happen. We saw Boogie Basham

1779
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 1: getting rotated up a little bit. So there are a

1780
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 1: number of players getting chances. Another player who moved up

1781
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 1: to second team getting more action was Shane Ray. He

1782
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:58,680
Speaker 1: was winning a lot of his team segment battles and

1783
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 1: one on one position battles as a pass rusher off

1784
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 1: the edge against third teamers. It looks like they want

1785
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 1: to give him a longer look against better competition. So

1786
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 1: he's been rotating up of late. And I know you

1787
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:15,640
Speaker 1: kind of made a note of this. More often than not,

1788
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 1: he's winning with a speed rush off the edge. Yeah,

1789
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to show a countermover two, I think,

1790
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 1: to show that there's more in his in his bucket

1791
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 1: besides just the speed rush.

1792
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 3: And this happens all and we'll hear about it more

1793
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 3: when they get closer to the preseason games and guys

1794
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 3: will say, hey, we're ready to start playing against somebody else.

1795
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 3: What happens is like you got thirteen wide receivers and

1796
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 3: you got fifteen defensive backs, and they all go one

1797
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 3: on one against each other every day. You see all

1798
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 3: those guys, and not only even if you don't go

1799
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 3: against the guy, you watch every rep he takes because

1800
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 3: you're watching it with your guys that do one on ones.

1801
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:51,600
Speaker 3: So you watch these guys, You watch your guys, You

1802
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:55,639
Speaker 3: watch their guys defend you time after time after time,

1803
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 3: and they get to know each other. They get to

1804
01:23:59,880 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 3: know each other and they get they you gotta have

1805
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 3: a wrinkle. And this guy, Shane Ray coming off the edge,

1806
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:09,560
Speaker 3: everybody's okay. When he gets in there, it's gonna be

1807
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 3: a speed rush off the edge of speed rush off

1808
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 3: the edge, speed rush rush off the s. And I

1809
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 3: heard early in my career, you know somebody, someone with

1810
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 3: their offensive line going as well like I had such

1811
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 3: You know this guy and I so I knew I

1812
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:25,679
Speaker 3: was gonna get one of three moves bull rush left,

1813
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 3: bull rush right, or bull rush middle right. That was

1814
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 3: the hit. That was his move.

1815
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 1: So you don't want to be a run right. I

1816
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 1: can't be a one trick post, that's right.

1817
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 3: So it's great. And so that's the thing. The further

1818
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 3: this gets into Camp and Shane Ray, that speed is

1819
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:42,679
Speaker 3: gonna stop working because guy's gonna know that's all he's got.

1820
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:45,600
Speaker 1: The talent he's going against can handle.

1821
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 3: It right, and he's gonna have to counter that. And

1822
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:51,720
Speaker 3: that's one of the things that that we used to

1823
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 3: work on constantly when we were releasing off the line

1824
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 3: of one on ones and I was mentioned Andy as Isabella,

1825
01:24:56,880 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 3: would you know he needs work on getting loose from press?

1826
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 3: You have one release at press press release. Guys gonna

1827
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:06,839
Speaker 3: see it on film every day and they're gonna say

1828
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:09,720
Speaker 3: they got you. And you can't make a team when

1829
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:12,680
Speaker 3: you can't win a rep and you can't win a

1830
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:14,679
Speaker 3: rep if every single guy on the other side knows

1831
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 3: your only move. That's what we're talking about with Shane Reys.

1832
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 3: We're talking about guys like Andy Isabella, all these guys.

1833
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 3: You gotta have a repertoire pass, rush moves, release moves, routes,

1834
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 3: all of this stuff. You can't You've got to be

1835
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 3: a well rounded player and have a lot in your

1836
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 3: arsenal or you're gonna get You're gonna get beat.

1837
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 1: Gotta diversify the skill set. We have to take a

1838
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 1: break here, one segment left to go. Some final thoughts

1839
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:39,639
Speaker 1: on day five of training camp here at Saint John

1840
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 1: Fisher on One Bill's Live presented by coll Out of Health,

1841
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio, all right, putting a caper on

1842
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 1: day five of training camp for the Bills at Saint

1843
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 1: John Fisher Chris Brown's Tasker with You, and I.

1844
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 2: Would say.

1845
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 1: Today was kind of one of the more non descript

1846
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 1: days only because there was so much time focused on

1847
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 1: the run game, so highlights were a little fewer and

1848
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 1: further between. Gave Davis had some, Tardavious White had some,

1849
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 1: and there were others as well. Few Dalon kin Kaid's

1850
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 1: consistency continues, and I would say the pass rush is

1851
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 1: starting to pick up the pace here the last couple

1852
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 1: of days in terms of its consistency in being effective

1853
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:40,559
Speaker 1: and forcing hurried decisions from the quarterback. They're not always

1854
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 1: getting home, but they're getting in the way. They're compromising

1855
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 1: the protections. And Ed Oliver has has popped up the

1856
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 1: last two days as well. We haven't really mentioned him much,

1857
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 1: so it's encouraging to see that too. Rousseau and Oliver

1858
01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:58,640
Speaker 1: are the two young bucks on that defensive line. If

1859
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:02,919
Speaker 1: they can start deliver the way everybody anticipates them delivering

1860
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 1: as former first round draft choices, they could really be

1861
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 1: in business.

1862
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:10,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, this there's a lot of upside still to be had,

1863
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 3: even by guys who have been here for a minute.

1864
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:17,679
Speaker 3: Certainly Gabe Davis coming back healthy, Spencer Brown, Greg Russou,

1865
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 3: all three of those guys dragging around injuries, Jordan Pourier

1866
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 3: back in the fold, another you know, healthy and ready

1867
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 3: to go, Micah Hyde back on the field, Von Miller

1868
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 3: on his way back, and Toredavis White at one hundred

1869
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 3: percent from the get from the jump, he's a completely

1870
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 3: different player than he was last year, even at the

1871
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 3: end of the season when he got back on the field. So, uh,

1872
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 3: there's a lot to like about this. Certainly, there's gonna

1873
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:43,680
Speaker 3: be bumps and challenges for this squad, just like there

1874
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 3: always are. Every team's gonna be dealing with injuries at

1875
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:48,640
Speaker 3: some point during the season. It's just a fact of

1876
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:51,439
Speaker 3: life in the NFL. But you do have to know

1877
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 3: that this is a team that has some depth and

1878
01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 3: has some quality depth and some people that are ready

1879
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 3: to step in and looking for the chance to step

1880
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:07,559
Speaker 3: in the competition is real for some of these spots,

1881
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 3: not just the middle linebacker spot, a slot receiver, corner

1882
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:16,439
Speaker 3: to corner CB two, Yeah, all of that. It's it's

1883
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 3: really the guard spot, right right guard. It's it's pretty

1884
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 3: it's fun to see, and it's fun to watch, uh,

1885
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 3: because they got a lot of quality guys, real pros

1886
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:28,680
Speaker 3: that are going at it in a really great environment,

1887
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 3: great team environment. So it's fun to watch it. And

1888
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:32,560
Speaker 3: we got a long way to go. It's gonna be

1889
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 3: fun to see it conclude a.

1890
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 1: Bit of Unfortunately it was out of Denver Broncos camp.

1891
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 1: Tim Patrick, the wide receiver who missed all of last

1892
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 1: season after suffering an acl injury in camp last summer,

1893
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 1: suffers what appears to be an achilles injury today, So

1894
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,639
Speaker 1: for the second straight season, his season could be over

1895
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:53,720
Speaker 1: before it even began. You want to talk about hard luck, man, That.

1896
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:57,920
Speaker 3: Is just awful. Yeah, that's that's that's you hate to

1897
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 3: see it. An Achilles saying there was a film one

1898
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 3: online Brown and I watched it and it's it's an

1899
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 3: Achilles rupture and it me being a doctor from five

1900
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 3: thousand miles away.

1901
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 2: But his leg just gives out.

1902
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 3: It's it's awful, and it's it's a stay the or

1903
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 3: it's part of what you admire and respect about these guys.

1904
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:18,640
Speaker 1: When all said, Dot, that's it for us here on

1905
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 1: a Monday. We'll see you tomorrow for another edition. Camp

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01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 1: Day number six