1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for a break? 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: Are you ready for a break? Absolutely ready for a break. Yeah, 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: and so much for that. It's time for the Break 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: and Bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hi, guys, welcome to 7 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: Cowboys Break. Another episode that it's that was supposed to 8 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: be happening at a golf course today when the Cowboys 9 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: host their annual golf tournament, but it is pouring in 10 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: the DFW area, so that's kind of I'm not sure 11 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: if there's gonna be a show happening later today or not. 12 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a golf tournament later here, but there's 13 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: still something that will happen over there with the media. 14 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, Jason Garrett, maybe a couple of 15 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: players will talk. But in the meantime, welcome Brian brought 16 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: us here in the show. We also have Danny McCray 17 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: here with us. How are you doing? He? I like 18 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: the there we go, there we go. Ready to talk 19 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: some football, Yeah, of course, always that's life. Football is 20 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: life all right, let's start with some questions and then 21 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: we'll have about we'll get into some interesting stuff that 22 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: you are doing here with the Cowboys in some camps 23 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 1: that are gonna be happening in the near future. First 24 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: of all, I wanted to talk about we're here. Yeah, 25 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: it's okay. Wasn't your name mentioned in the intro? That's 26 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: a great point. We got a special intro for you. 27 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: Good point. Alright, has it been accurate in like the 28 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: last three months, because we haven't all four been together, 29 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: so I couldn't forget about that, all right? Sorry, go ahead. 30 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: DeMarcus ware he's a guy that obviously has been very 31 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: close with the Cowboys special even last year he came 32 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: in a few times, helped DeMarcus Lawrence help the d 33 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: line coaching stuff. He he talked about him wanting to 34 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: be involved a little more this year and coming in 35 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: a couple of days of weeks and instructing the teams, 36 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: and one of the things that he said was how 37 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: he feels that this team has what it takes basically 38 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: to get it done this year. And that made me think. 39 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: There have been several people that have come out this 40 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: offseason mentioning or expressing that same feeling towards this twenty 41 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: nineteen Cowboys team, and I wanted to get your insight. Obviously, 42 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: I'm one, I'm one of the first to hate to 43 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: start talking about Super Bowl this early in the year. 44 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: But you've been here for many years, You've watched the teams, 45 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: and I wanted to see, how does this team talent 46 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: wise and mentality wise, feel any different from any of 47 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: the other years. The difference for me is the other 48 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: years that were Super Bowl contending teams, I think you 49 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: felt a little bit more confident at the quarterback position 50 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: with from an experienced standpoint, but I do think this 51 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: is this is a really good football team. And I 52 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: think a lot of people forget that part because it's like, well, 53 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: they didn't draft him, or they lost here in the 54 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: playoffs all that. But when you think about balanced teams, 55 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: to have a really good running game, a good offensive line, 56 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: probably great offensive line. They got playmaker receiver, got got 57 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: veterans that are coming back into this like Frederick and Witton. 58 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: Defense is young and fast and good. I think this 59 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: is a really really good football team that came compete. 60 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: I really appreciate this situation that we're in because my 61 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: opinion doesn't matter. The ownership has kind of set the 62 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: tone for what the expectations are by not renewing Jason 63 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: Garrett's contract. That kind of says everything you need to 64 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: say right there. This is a talented football team. They 65 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: need to make the playoffs. They need to make a 66 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: run in the playoffs probably for this to be considered 67 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: a successful season. If that wasn't the case, Jason Garrett 68 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: would probably have a new deal even go back. So 69 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: I think most people would probably say even though the 70 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen Cowboys win thirteen and three, I think most 71 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: fans would say the twenty fourteen team is the best 72 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: team that they've had in recent memory, like in this 73 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: iteration in the Jason Garrett era of the Cowboys. Is 74 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: that fair to see? Yeah, you know, Dad's I would 75 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: think the sixteen team. I think the sixteen team, to 76 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: go to Nick's point, to win at Green Bay, to 77 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: win at Pittsburgh with a rookie quarterback really good. But 78 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: but I think people have more faith in the quarterback 79 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: to pick things up when things weren't going well. I 80 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: thought you were going the right path the way you 81 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: were talking, well, let me, let me, let me when 82 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: you started this out, I thought you were letting the 83 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: right path. Let me continue down that path. Then I 84 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: got distracted. Point being, I think most people would say 85 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,119 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen is the best team of Jason Garrett's tenure. 86 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: Expectations for that team were not good. They were actually 87 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: really bad. Like Jerry Jones, who's the eternal optimists, said 88 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: before the season started, like we know we got an 89 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: uphill battle, Like he basically was like, we might not 90 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: be very good after years of getting his butt kicked 91 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: predicting super well. And then you know, they're one debatable 92 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: call away from the NFC Championship game, and I know 93 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: Green Bay would have got the balling way shut up, 94 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Point being is the expectations for this 95 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: team are high and should be high. Like where's the 96 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: flaw on this team? I guess the coaching staff? Oh, 97 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: kind of like how I started this thing off. Well, 98 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: now this is where No, this is because I'm not 99 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: saying just because I'm a critical of Jason Garrett, but 100 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: Nick just described and I think we all agree it 101 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: is a very talented team. It's a very deep team. 102 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: What do we know about Kellen Moore? That's the thing. 103 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's and when I talk about coaching, I'm 104 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: not just trying to pile on Jason Garrett like I 105 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: do every day. But I'm just trying to say, if 106 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: we understand what Christopher Shard now, if if Kellen Moore 107 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: has the same results that say that we had from 108 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: Chris rah Shard, I think you'd have to be pretty 109 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: happy this team might be on the way up. If 110 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore has as good as an impact as Christopher 111 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: Shard did in his first year, this team should at 112 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: least be playing now now Nicks Knicks analysis and your analysis. 113 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure Danny's gonna say the same thing about the team. 114 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: The talent maybe won't. What is Danny gonna say? No'm 115 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: saying it's interesting, but I'm gonna say this, though I 116 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: thought you were going down the path, I don't know 117 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: what Kellen Moore is. I have people tell me what 118 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore is, but I don't know what Kellen Moore is. 119 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: He could come in here and he could work his 120 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: magic just like christ Shard did. And this was a 121 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: top ten defense, top ten scoring defense. You know, it's 122 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: just till the bitter end they got run over by 123 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: two teams that are really good offensively. But I think 124 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: the biggest question about this team is not the talent 125 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: or the quarterback or anybody else. It's the coaching staff. 126 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: And came Kellen Moore, And let's let's be honest too, 127 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: Mark Colombo, you know, halfway through the season, right coming in. 128 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: So I'm I'm interested. I think the thing that could 129 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: hold this team back is if you if they're if 130 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: they're they start off initially and Kellen Moore doesn't hit 131 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: the ground running, then that talented team could very well 132 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: have some problems. You know, we asked Danny to come 133 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 1: on the show and talk a little bit about the 134 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: camps and all of a sudden like we'll get to them. 135 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, like you know, I'm not one of those 136 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: guys that likes to go Super Bowl, uh, you know 137 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: before the season starts. So I think, yeah, right, I 138 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: think the team is talented. I like what you said 139 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: about the coaching staff, but I think that we have 140 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: to understand that it's Kellen Moore and John Kittner that yeah, 141 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: that or the question marks. And I played with John 142 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: kitten so I do have faith in him to pick 143 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: things up if it doesn't start well. For for Kellen 144 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: and I think he saved the season. I mean he 145 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: got he got Jason Garrett's job. Help. Yeah, five and 146 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: three down the stretch, he got him his job. Yeah, 147 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: so yeah, so yeah, I believe he can do it. 148 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: And the questions only But you don't know Kellen Moore. 149 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: I don't know Kellen Moore. But I know that I 150 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: know the leader that Kittney is. Yeah, and I know 151 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: that he will be in Kellen Moore's ear and there'll 152 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: be he have a lot of imprints on that. On 153 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: the offense. I don't give Danny enough credit for how 154 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: old he is, Like, yeah, you did play with John Kittner, 155 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: Damn man, that was ten years ago. You know one, 156 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:14,239 Speaker 1: I just made thirty one in March football not football football. 157 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: But no, you know, are you just say what are you? 158 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: What are you thinking about? Because to me, we always 159 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: talk about the talent on this team. We all feel 160 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: like they're doing the right things. I think, where are 161 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: the questions? Where are the where are the true questions 162 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: of this team? You think they could you think they 163 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: would want to upgrade safety? We don't need to go 164 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: down that questions. I got some questions for other than that. 165 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: I mean Yeah, the rest of it is really on 166 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: the coaching staff. It's like, look around, Okay, it's the NFL. 167 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: Somebody that's supposed to be good is going to be bad, 168 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: and somebody we're not talking about it's gonna be good. 169 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: Happens every single year. But like looking around the NFC 170 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: right now, you got to say, this is one of 171 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: the five best rosters in the conference, Saints, and that's 172 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: why the pressures on That's why the pressures on Jason Cowboys. 173 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: I think that's to your point, absolutely, that's why they 174 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: didn't extend him that That's exactly my points. The expectation 175 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: has been set for me. I don't have to have 176 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: my own expect When when we say coaching staff too, 177 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: I think we need to point out that, I mean, 178 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: there is a question about well there is in my mind. 179 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what other people think. I really like 180 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, but I don't about to pay him, I 181 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: hope you know. But I'm saying, is the coaching staff 182 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: better make him into the type of player that he 183 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: needs to be. He can't just go out there and 184 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: throw the ball around like like Drew Brees and Tom Brady. 185 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: He's not that type of player. They've got to make 186 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: sure he's the guy that's running flipping over, getting them 187 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: third and five and getting those six yards and getting 188 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: him on the move and making him be the type 189 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: of player he can be if they're going to pay him. 190 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: All that money goes back to Kellen Mortal goes back 191 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: to the coaching staff. That's when I say coaching staff, 192 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: they've got to put they got to be Dak friendly. 193 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: Forget the other guys around there. They got to make 194 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: sure that Dad can be the type of player he 195 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: needs to be and that stand him in the pocket 196 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: and make him throws. They're gonna lose games that way 197 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: because there's coordinators that will outsmart the other team and 198 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: then that the Cowboys by doing that. In my opinion, 199 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: and it's very rare when you see that the talent 200 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: is able to surpass everything that the coaching staff is 201 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: about you. When you talk about the talent, there's there's 202 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: very few cases where you have just a group that's 203 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: so talented that they will just make it happens however 204 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, there's sometimes though, there will be talent 205 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: that overcomes bad coaching. Right, There's sometimes that happens that 206 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: no matter it's very rare. But if you do have 207 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: the type of team that no matter you know, what 208 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: situation the coaches put him in, the players will find 209 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: a way to win. Ninety four could very well be. Yeah, 210 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: I mean that's that's not that's not that No, you're not, 211 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: but you're being very honest. There will be people that 212 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: give that those teams. That's those are Jimmy Johnson built teams. 213 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: And they're saying despite Switzer's inability to really understand the 214 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: pro game, that he benefit from a very talent into roster. 215 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: What happens different that people can benefit around the area 216 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: and have kids that want to be involved some camps 217 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: that the Cowboys are going to be hosting. Yeah, so 218 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: we have our camps coming up and then so these 219 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: little guys that we coach will hopefully one day be 220 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: some of the guys that are being talked about on 221 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 1: this podcast. So we have three day camps starting June third, 222 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: and they run all the way through August seventh and 223 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: first through seventh grade. And we get these guys in 224 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: here and they're coached by former NFL players, me being 225 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: a former Cowboys player. And on the third day, we 226 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: have a current Dallas cowboy player come out and speak 227 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: to the kids. So we have great drills, great great teaching, 228 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: great learning, learning experience for the kids, boys and girls, 229 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: Boys and girls. We also do cheerleading camps, so those 230 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: girls who want to come out and cheer for their 231 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: brothers and their friends, we have that as well. And 232 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: the boys and girls for football as well. Boys and 233 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: girls for football, Boys and girls for chi leading. Okay, 234 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: this is happening at the Star. Yeah, eight camps at 235 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: the Star. We have four at the stadium and one 236 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: at the Baylor Sports Performance Center which is directly next door. 237 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: How'd you getting hooked up in this? I mean, I 238 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: know you when what was your last year playing? Two 239 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: years ago? Fifteen? He was a Benz watcher of TV. Yes, yes, 240 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: we'll bring him back to do Game of Throw. It's 241 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: another time, right. We could talk about this all day. Um, 242 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 1: So I retired, Well, I didn't get called back, and 243 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: then I sit at home for a little bit, and 244 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: I figured I need to go back to school. I 245 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: get my NBA and I get my MBA, and I 246 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: started applying for jobs. And I'm realizing that the football 247 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: resume is a little it's a little shallow, it's a 248 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: little didn't have enough stuff on there. So I apply 249 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: for an internship to go work an office. They called me, 250 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: they accept me, and I go there for six months 251 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: and I learned a little bit of the ins and 252 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: out sort of other corporate field of things. And I 253 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: come back and I'm still sitting at home, like I 254 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: have no idea what I want to do. I've done 255 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: all this and I still have no idea. So I 256 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: reach out to a few people here at the Cowboys 257 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: and the rest is history. Danny went, kid, did you 258 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: ever go to camps? Did you ever go to football camps? Went? 259 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: I went to a few football camps. I'm from Houston, right, 260 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: we're in Our football camps were at the middle school 261 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: in high school. So it wasn't NFL players coming back 262 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: our teams. It was our coaches saying, Hey, the campus 263 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: at school and you need to be there. But you 264 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: have a vision for your camps of what you want 265 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: these kids to learn. I mean, your experienced only it's 266 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: an NFL player, but your only experiences at camp. You 267 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: want to make this fun for these kids, but you 268 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: also want these kids to get something out of it though, right, 269 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's really the whole idea. So we 270 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: do drill skills and education for us. And so what 271 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: we do is we want to one we their first 272 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: dough seventh grade, right, so we want to make sure 273 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: they're having fun. Right. Kids like to compete. They do 274 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: like to compete. They want to compete, whether it's racing 275 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: each other, they like to compete. So we put the 276 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: competition aspect in it. We teach them a little bit 277 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: about sleep and education and New Trician and then we 278 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: let them get out there and compete for a flag 279 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: football trophy that is a replica of a Super Bowl trophy. 280 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: So they get photo ops and they get them on stage. 281 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: And where was this for me? Yeah? Yeah, I could 282 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: have done something with my life athletically. You know. Now, 283 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: I doubt that we have many mothers listening to this. 284 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, But for those mothers and women that 285 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: are concerned about kids playing football and the safety of 286 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: their kids, how do you guys do this? Is it? 287 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: What kind of football is it? How much contact is there? So? 288 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: How safe are the kids to go out there and 289 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: compete if it's a kid that hasn't done it before? 290 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: So so one over, I believe like the last eight years. 291 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: Flag football has become the biggest growing sport in the nation. Right, 292 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: so the right parents are worried about the kids getting hurt, 293 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: so they're starting to let them start off in flag 294 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: football six man football, So we incorporate flag football and 295 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: those type of drills into our camps. Our camps are 296 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: non contact, so they won't be tackling each other, they 297 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: won't be hitting each other, so there's no risk of 298 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: that at our camps. Our skills also translate into it 299 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: if you have a kid who just is interested in 300 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: the football but not really sure if that's what they 301 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: really want to do, and the soccer player, our drills 302 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: translating into soccer, basketball. Pretty much any sport. You can 303 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: get quicker, faster, and better any sport by coming our camps. 304 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: But if you have like a big lineman that is 305 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: a sophomore in high school and he's thinking I could 306 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: go and play Division one football, there's camps for that. 307 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: He needs to come. On May eighteenth, which is next Saturday, 308 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: to our big man camp, we will have them so 309 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: we will have former NFL alignment and defensive alignment out 310 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: there coaching these guys and teaching them those little ins 311 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: and outs like the markets where it wants to do. 312 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: Here for the Cowboys, you go, So, how do people 313 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: sign up for this? You can sign up, Well, you 314 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: can go to Dallas Cowboys dot com slash Academy and 315 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: you can find the schedule for all of our camps 316 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: and you just sign them through that. Much what you 317 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: played in the league for six years, six years, I 318 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: assume these relationships are helping you out a lot. In 319 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: this fact. Oh they are. I am able to get 320 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: some of the guys that I played with the come 321 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: out of these camps, and with me just retiring about 322 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: two or three years ago, a lot of the kids 323 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: are still recognizing some of the guys that I play with. 324 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: There we go. It's exciting for them. Who better to 325 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: learn from. Absolutely, Well, thank you so much for coming 326 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: in today and telling us about this. I've been to 327 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: one of the camps before it was hosted for like 328 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: the Hispanic community, because I know they did that separate, 329 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: but I think now they're just mixing it up. It 330 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what language you speak, just show up, do it. 331 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: It's really fun. I saw the kids having a great time. 332 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: So make sure you check it out if you have 333 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: kids and sign up. Thank you, Danny, and good luck 334 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: to you over there with all those kids running around. 335 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me, Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Slash 336 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: Academy to me, Boom right, bl Tigers, All right, let's number. 337 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: No no no, there's your college stuff here, the LSU Tigers. 338 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no no. We're gonna take an 339 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: old champion. Danny McCrae. Sorry, I don't like purple. We're 340 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: gonna take a break. We're gonna take a break and 341 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: when we come back, we'll keep talking about this. 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The Collois Break. 386 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: We talked about camps, we talked about coaching staff in 387 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: the talent. Now I'll have another question. I know there 388 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: are are a lot of people out there that don't 389 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: really get to be around here obviously, and wonder about 390 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: people's dynamic like relationships, the environment, the dynamic, the energy, 391 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: the players being on the same track as long as 392 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: with the coaching supporting Jason Garrett. How is that? Did 393 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: they get upset? Is there some traction there happening? And 394 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about that whole locker room environment. 395 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: Obviously we haven't had the chance to be in there 396 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 1: this year yet, but it's happening soon. But we know 397 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: most of the veteran guys it's pretty much the same. 398 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: How do you feel about the dynamic around the locker 399 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 1: rooms and the players and their relationship between the coaching staff. 400 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: If you've got a social media account, you don't need 401 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: me to tell you. I mean, the stuff this team 402 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: does between itself is pretty unbelievable. I mean, they all 403 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: went to Duke together, Like what was that a week 404 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: two weeks ago, two weeks ago. Yeah, right, it's fret 405 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: for the draft. It's and you know, Jason Garrett's got 406 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: like a leadership council. It's like, I mean, it's it 407 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: feels like it's like half the team. But I mean 408 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 1: the team's you know, like I said, look anywhere on 409 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: social media, the team, this team's leaders. Basically they're starters. 410 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: They go everywhere together. They went. They all flew up 411 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: to Duke together. They they went to a shooting range 412 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: with like a Navy Seal team a couple of weeks ago. 413 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: You know, they went to Dirk Nowitzki's retirement. They they 414 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: go to Stars games. They're all always here together. I mean, 415 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: the whole team has been going through the offseason program. 416 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it would be unrealistic to think 417 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: that they're all just best friends all the time. But like, 418 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: this team clearly has a very strong bond that you 419 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: don't and they addy that often. And they added a 420 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: guy back from the broadcast Spooth. Yeah, that was a 421 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: big locker room guy, you know, with with I'll be 422 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: interested to see twenty basically new names. If you think 423 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: about this off season with the draft picks, the undrafted 424 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: free agents, and then look at the guys they added 425 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: in free agency on those one year deals. Think about 426 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: that as your team as you're talking about building and 427 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: going forward, twenty new personalities, you know, as we get 428 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 1: ready for camp and so you're better have some guys. 429 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: Is it really that many? Okay? Do you think about it? 430 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: The got an eighth person draft class. As person draft class. 431 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: How many they add in free in the free agency. 432 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: You brought in Quinn or five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, 433 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: thirteen undrafted You're right, wow, yeah, you got undrafted, so 434 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: you added twenty something bodies new bodies to this. I'm 435 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: not trying to you know, you don't want to write 436 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: anybody off. But like the majority of the guys that 437 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: are definitely gonna make the fifty three are not in 438 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: their faces. It gonna be hard for these rookies to 439 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: make this team. Yeah, this is a young team that 440 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: was talented already, so I mean there will be I 441 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: mean some undrafted guys are always are, and Brian's done. 442 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: It's kind of report on all of them if concludes today. 443 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: But you know, it's just gonna it's gonna be hard 444 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: to make it. When you think about backup corners of 445 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: that are already you know, Anthony Brown and Jordan Lewis. 446 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: You know, it's not gonna be easy for a guy 447 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,479 Speaker 1: to come in and be better than that. So but 448 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: that's a good thing. It's a good thing to answer 449 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,719 Speaker 1: your question though, I mean from my perspective, I mean, 450 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: this all sounds good, and the guys that are you know, 451 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: having some some good you know, camaraderie right now, all great, 452 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: but you know when the bullets start flying at the end, 453 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: you know, and during the games and all that kind 454 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: of stuff, who how do they how do they you 455 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: know act then? You know? Or is there a finger 456 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: pointing and stuff like that? Like it all sounds good 457 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: now and I think it's it's going well, but when 458 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: it really goes gets down to it, you know, this 459 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: team's got to be able to to you know, handle 460 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: adversity on the field and stuff like that. They didn't 461 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: do a good job with it in the Rams game, 462 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: and there's been times this year when that didn't happen. 463 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: So this is good. It's a good start, but I'm 464 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: just saying, you know, the end result obviously is the 465 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: biggest thing. You're absolutely right, and no two teams are 466 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: the same. But this team was staring at three and 467 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: five and didn't do that. I mean, what's a bigger 468 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: adversity than that. We thought the coaching staff was gone, 469 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: definitely didn't think they were making the playoffs trade though 470 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: it took Stevens, But that that's We're not that's relevant 471 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: to this conversation. I'm just talking about the character of 472 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 1: the locker room. Well, there were a few things that 473 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: popped up with the Wide Receiver group. You know, you 474 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: had like, oh, comments on maybe Alan Hearns made or 475 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: Cole Beastley and things kind of you hear whispers around 476 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: dude's gone right ro and and I know Alan Hearns, 477 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: you know, he was vaguely critical of Scotland Han's offense, 478 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: but like he wasn't a from Scott has gone as well. 479 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: He wasn't a problem child by any stretch of the imagination. 480 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,239 Speaker 1: I mean, he made those comments after a game and 481 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: then like three days later everybody bombarded him with follow 482 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: ups and he was like, well, yeah, like I didn't 483 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: mean it in a bad way. That's just what happened, 484 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: you know, Like Alan Hearns is like like, do not 485 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: confuse that guy with some sort of diva Like that's 486 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: just the opposite of the case. So and we don't 487 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: really have any deep right now. So which you know, 488 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: to previous three years, you had several guys who I 489 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: don't know it's not but who it's every year, this 490 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 1: is what one thing I have noticed. You always think, oh, 491 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: that was the hell of a drop. He knew exactly 492 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: what he was doing. Well, no, no, I mean whatever, 493 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: whether it's Taco Charlton, whether it's somebody else, I'll steal 494 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: the words right out of Knick's mouth. I've done I've 495 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: done this long enough to know that there will always 496 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 1: be a guy. Yeah, there's like when one guy leaves, 497 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: another guy replaces him. Maybe he's not happy with his contract, 498 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: maybe he's not happy with his playing time, maybe he's 499 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: not what happy, but not happy about with the narrative 500 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 1: in the media about him. There will always be that guy. Ratliff, 501 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: that guy became that guy. DeMarco Murray was that guy 502 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 1: for a while. But there's always there's always that guy, 503 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: and he'll be there in twenty nineteen. But and that's 504 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,959 Speaker 1: my point. You know, great they go to they're going 505 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: to duke together. That's awesome. It doesn't necessarily mean anything. 506 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: But I still think the character of this locker is 507 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: incredibly strong and the important factors of it are not 508 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: going anywhere. I mean, you mentioned you mentioned Marie Cooper trade. 509 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: I think Marie Cooper is great for this locker room. 510 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: Zeke and Dak have taken ownership of it in a 511 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: way that I wasn't sure was possible. I was actually 512 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: writing about that yesterday. I remember talking to him in December, 513 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: no Zeke, and he was like, well, you know, it's 514 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: not like I set out to become this leader, but 515 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: like guys like Witt and Dez leave and you don't 516 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: really have a choice. And I know Jason Witten's back, 517 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: but I think the steps that Zeke has taken to 518 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: take ownership of this team are you know, he's not 519 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: taken a backseat to Jason Witten just because Jason Witten's back. 520 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: I don't think could a Marie's contract be something that 521 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: gets in the way of this locker room? You know, well, 522 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: I was about to say this before you said that. 523 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm so glad the laws contract got 524 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: done because I could see that was going down that 525 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: path because why wasn't it get done and he was 526 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: holding off on doing the surgery and that wasn't looking good. 527 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: And then there's going to start to be columns written 528 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: about him, and then let's see how he reacts, because 529 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: that's what happens these guys who react to media. You know, 530 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: that's critical. So we'll see what happens with a Maori. 531 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: But I don't I don't think it'll get to that 532 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 1: point for a while here. I mean I think that 533 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna I think the contract will be done before 534 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 1: the before the start of the season. Honestly, I just 535 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 1: Dax or a Maris. I think, as I think Mari 536 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: has to get done that you don't make the trade 537 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: if you're not going to sign huntil long term. He 538 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: kept saying he's twenty four. He's twenty four, Well you 539 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: better signed him then, So that's gonna happen. I don't 540 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: think there's a I don't know if there's a standoff 541 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: here or not. I don't think it's Also, I gotta 542 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: see that in Amari Cooper's temperament to believe it, Like 543 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 1: that's just that's not his style. Even what you went 544 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 1: to the Mudbug bash two weeks ago and he was like, 545 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: I'm not really worried about it because like they've gone 546 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 1: out of their way to make it known that they 547 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: intend on paying me. So like, I just assume it's 548 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: gonna get done, Like he didn't sound disgruntled two weeks ago. 549 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: And I would have to assume that it goes a 550 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: lot further than it is right now. Before he would 551 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: get disgruntled. I think I think these reports were hearing 552 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: about premature, like disappointment and offers being high and all. 553 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: I think that's way way, you know, again premature, and 554 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: the Cowboys have seen this before because I remember, wait, 555 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: this is a different era, but still Tony Romo was 556 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: when he had about ten good games in two thousand 557 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 1: and six, and then now he's the starter two thousand 558 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: and seven, So he's only he just kind of came 559 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: out of nowhere and his initial offered on his new 560 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 1: deal was higher than what Peyton Manning was making right then, 561 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: and Peyton Manning had just won the Super Bowl, and 562 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 1: so you know, the Cowboys like, okay, that's where we 563 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: start and this is it and then they find a 564 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: middle grown So yeah, his agent might just be saying 565 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: he can find some way in the numbers to say 566 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: he is better than Julio Jones or Antonio Brown or 567 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: who is the highest paid receiver. Uh it's back up now, 568 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: isn't that probably gonna be Julio? I mean he asked 569 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: what they're talking about. Yeah, but I mean, you know, 570 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: he's up in there and the top five to eight, 571 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: I think, and he'll get paid that way. I think 572 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: so too. In personality wise, he doesn't seem like one 573 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: that would have made any problem. No, no, but that 574 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: exactly I think about I think we kind of really 575 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: you think, well, that's kind of what we said. I mean, 576 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: those guys do develop. I don't think he's not gonna 577 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: I don't think Himar's going to develop into that. I 578 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: would have to see it to believe it. It just 579 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: hasn't hasn't been even. I mean, you know, even in Oakland, 580 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: when things weren't going well for him, you weren't reading 581 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: or hearing a ton about Sure, but that's what I'm saying. 582 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: Though they came to the point there where they made 583 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: the trade. You know, we didn't hear about anything, but 584 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: they did make the trade. I think Oakland, I mean, 585 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: they did the same thing with Khalil Mack too, Like 586 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: I think that's I think you heard more from Mac 587 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: than you did from but you didn't even Khalil Mack 588 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: didn't make a stink either. He just didn't report, which 589 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: players do that all the time. And I think the 590 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: whole Cooper thing was we've heard, well, he doesn't love football. 591 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: People say that about he loves football. People say that 592 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: about guys that that aren't or quiet, Yeah, that are quiet, 593 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: Like he doesn't love football just because he's not ray 594 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: Lewis rah Raw until something, I mean until something happens 595 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: to change my mind. I think that's just more about 596 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: John Gruden trying to get his guys. Sure. I hope 597 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: the other two contracts don't become an issue though, and 598 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: I don't think they will. But you talked about the leaders, right, 599 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: is that you know Zeke and Deck and then those 600 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: two guys do need contracts. So if it if it 601 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: does drag out there and then those guys have to 602 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: make decisions that are smart for them, that's where it 603 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: could be an issue. Hopefully none of that happens. It's 604 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: a lot to consider. Stephen Jones said last week, I mean, 605 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: you know, Zeke is the straw that stirs our drink. 606 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: He called him a priority to resign. He also said, well, 607 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: maybe we're not talking about it as much because we've 608 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: got two years to get it done. I wonder if 609 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,479 Speaker 1: Zeke here's that and he's like, do you do you 610 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: let me let me just say this. I don't know, 611 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: you know, before anybody freaks out, it's just me think 612 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: on my show, there's you know the Cowboys are open 613 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: for business. If people want to come talk about these contracts. Yeah, 614 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: I didn't get that, you know, because I said, I 615 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: asked a couple of guys that said, well, is there 616 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: now a priority? Is it? Dak? Is it? How's you? 617 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: How do you? And they're like, nah, you want to 618 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: come in? You know the music's playing. Don't get left 619 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: without a chair, you know, don't don't. Don't be the guy. 620 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: You know, if you if you're gonna be the last 621 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: one in, then you might not get all the money 622 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: you absolutely want. But it sound like to me they've 623 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: got the open sign and they're ready. If if these 624 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: if these agents want to deal with him right now. 625 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: I mean they proved that they're willing to deal with you. 626 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: They did it with with Lawrence and just things. Don't 627 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: be the last guy waiting for a chair before the roster, Yeah, 628 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: before the roster goes down to fifty three. I just 629 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: think we're gonna be covering one to two more extensions. 630 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: That's how That's why I think getting on the plane 631 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: that twenty fifth of July, there'll probably be something. Yeah, 632 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: there'll be one more scrambling around packing a pack in 633 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: the box. Now Zike has done absolutely everything that you 634 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,719 Speaker 1: can think of or dream of about a play or 635 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: what you would want to look at it. Everything he's 636 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: done this offseason, he's been on the headlines. I knew 637 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: everything has been about goods stuff. The only one that 638 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: popped up, yes, knock on wood. The only one was like, 639 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: well is he fat? Now? Look at him? He shut 640 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: that up really quick, showing a picture of himself but 641 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: his position himself better than anybody. And I could not 642 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: imagine how this would go further than a year from now. 643 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: I do not envy them for having to figure this 644 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: out because arguably the best running back in football, who 645 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: deserves a pay raise, one of the ten best receivers 646 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: in football, who needs more years on his contract, and 647 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: maybe not. You know, there's an argument on Twitter this morning. No, 648 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's not one of the five best quarterbacks in 649 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: the NFL, but he is a quarterback capable of getting 650 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: you three winning records and two playoff appearances, and he 651 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: needs more years on his contract too. I don't I 652 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: don't know how you figure that out. Anything I could 653 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: question you, guess that's typically what you do if you 654 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: were if you're the front off this and you're doing 655 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: these contracts, would you worry about what you talked about 656 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: in the first segment of the coach's job hanging in 657 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: the balance that if you're extending guys that some coach 658 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: might not want. I'm not saying a coach wouldn't want 659 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: to coach Zeke, but maybe he doesn't feel as good 660 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: about Dak. Yeah, well then he then he can't get 661 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: an He wouldn't he wouldn't get this job, wouldn't get 662 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: this job. Jerry's like, you love Dak? Right, Well, okay, thanks, 663 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: you know we tried see you later. Okay. Do you 664 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: do you limit yourself to maybe the type of coach 665 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna get? That that's true? You know, do you 666 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: go back? You put your do you honestly that you have? 667 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: You put yourself hand yourself in a corner. Having Dak 668 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: Prescott makes me feel better about the coach that I 669 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: would get because that's the way this league is going. 670 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: The coach that wants Dak Prescott is the coach that 671 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: understands how to run that type of offense. Like Cliff 672 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: Kingsbury could design an offense for Dak Prescott. And maybe 673 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: that's a bad example because we don't know how good 674 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: he is yet, or Sean McVay maybe you know, maybe 675 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,479 Speaker 1: Sean McVay, maybe Dak's not his ideal quarter, but like 676 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: he can't design plays for Dak. Oh, and I think 677 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: I can't get this. I think I know where Brian's 678 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: really going here, but I don't know ahead Well, I mean, 679 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: I don't really want to say it, but let's say 680 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 1: there's a coach for another team right now, that that's 681 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: a really successful coach from another team that's won super 682 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: Bowls and stuff like that, that maybe it's been listening trouble. No, 683 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, but but maybe that he wouldn't be 684 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,479 Speaker 1: Dack's top product. Anybody if you're if you're it's easy, 685 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: I think, to extend the defensive guys because you kind 686 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: of could you know, you can you can either three 687 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: four or fourth three. You can work with that stuff. 688 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: Tell that's a John Gruden. He just shipped off the 689 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: best pass rusher in the league. Sure. Oh no, I 690 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: didn't want to pay him though, that was his deal. 691 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: That's pretty much how the league works. So I'm just 692 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, though, if you're a front office, would 693 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: you you know, now you're and again, people, I don't 694 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: think it's adapting to Zeke because I think Zeke can 695 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: adapt anything you want to do. It's Dak that I 696 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: would worry about if I was paying him thirty million dollars. 697 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: And you saw, you saw what happened the Arizona Cardinals. 698 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: Did you coach to walked in there and said, listen, 699 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: you picked that guy in the top ten. I can't 700 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: play with him. Can't play with that cat. Gotta have 701 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: my own cat. What do we do? We use the 702 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: first overall pick for a quarterback that nobody really is 703 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,879 Speaker 1: like totally in love with. But again, I said, if 704 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: you're a good enough coach. I think if you fin 705 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: yourself a good enough coach, you can make it happen 706 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: with a player like Dak Prescott. In him, You've seen 707 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: make plays. You just needed a coaching better. Hey, Ambar, 708 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: I'd like to hire you for this job as a 709 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: head coach to Dallas Cowboys. It comes with a couple parameters. 710 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hire your defensive coaching staff for you, and 711 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: I'm also going to make you play with Dak Prescott. 712 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:42,399 Speaker 1: You interested? Yes, quarterback? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah that work? Yeah, 713 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: let's go sign Okay, I don't see the problem. Okay, 714 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: Nick's right, that's gonna be the first question, and are 715 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: you going to limit yourself again? We saw a coach 716 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: who had a not a successful college record get a 717 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: head coaching job and come in and completely change the 718 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: direction of a franchise firmly, I said, firmly on the 719 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: on the Draft show, like that's on Arizona's GM, And 720 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: I'm confused as to why that guy. What that changed 721 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: the direction? Cowboys didn't just spend a top ten pick 722 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: on a quarterback. They've got their guy like they did. 723 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: Think that schizophrenia is what that is, is to put 724 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,280 Speaker 1: a defensive coach in charge of drafting a top ten quarterback, 725 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: fire him a year later, and then completely reverse course 726 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: like they don't know what they're doing. And maybe they're 727 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 1: going in the right way. Right now, we'll see how 728 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is. This team has designed its roster a 729 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 1: certain way. And like I said, in this day and age, 730 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: where Kyler Murray's going number one overall, you can't find 731 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 1: a good coach who can coach Dak Prescott. Would you 732 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: get the best coach if you've just joined us. In 733 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 1: the last ten minutes, and you know, Jason Garrett has 734 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: not been fired. Seriously, you just joined it and you 735 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: listened about the new coach and stuff like that, like no, no, 736 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett. Jason Garrett cut his teeth with Tony Romo 737 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: and Scott Linahan, spanned a healthy chunk of his career 738 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: with Matt Stafford, who are completely different quarterbacks than Dak, 739 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: and they made it work well enough to have three 740 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: straight winning seasons and go to the playoffs twice working 741 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: with a guy that maybe wasn't what they really wanted 742 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: to be working with. And even despite all the complaints 743 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: about how much the offense needed to be changed, they 744 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: still went to the playoffs twice and won a playoff game. 745 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: That's a good points. You can't go find a guy 746 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: who knows how to work with this type of quarterback. 747 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: I don't believe you don't trust on your own coaching 748 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: abilities if you're a coach, which Nick Nick I'll I 749 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: reluctant team. Why couldn't they? You said, schizophrenia. Why couldn't 750 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: the guy then in Arizona play with that quarterback? He 751 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: probably could have? Why why couldn't he He probably could 752 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 1: could have, but he saw an opportunity to get a 753 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 1: guy whose tailor made for what he wants to do. 754 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: And he says, why did you bring me here if 755 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 1: not to help me out? Well, they brought him here 756 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: just try and get the quarterback they drafted. He was hired. 757 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,479 Speaker 1: Do you know that? Oh? I have an idea. Sure. 758 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 1: I mean he was hired before Murray. He was hired 759 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: on December thirty. First, he was hired way before Mary. 760 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: He was hired because Pat Mahomes went crazy in the 761 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: NFL absolutely, and so it's like, you know, if you can, 762 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: you can recruit that guy. And his best friend is 763 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: widely considered the best young coach in the league. Mcvasho. 764 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: They're buddies. You know. I hate not being able to 765 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: know whether or not we've seen Dak reach his full 766 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: potential or not, you know, because that's what gives us 767 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: something to talk to him now. Three years Huh, why 768 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: why do you act like that bothers you? No, No, 769 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: I'm just saying everybody's kind of your face. I am listener. Well, 770 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: let's say this about it. I mean, he was a 771 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: late fourth round pick and so he's been way better 772 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: than people thought. So I think you got to give 773 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: somebodies credit here, there's definitely credit there. Let's go through 774 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: all the top ten picks who were like completely polished 775 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: products after three years. Mahomes, Oh yeah, great, awesome. Mahomes 776 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 1: is a beast. Sure name the other ones because Tom 777 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: Brady was pretty good. I'll have a break to discuss them. Yeah, okay, 778 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,839 Speaker 1: cool break, Yeah, we'll have it break. Thank you, Nick. 779 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: We'll discuss this. Break it down to five. Get a game, guys, 780 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: and then Briant has some fun questions for us when 781 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,720 Speaker 1: we come back. Your new apartment's big, such a great deal. 782 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 1: Yeah it's okay, just okay. What's right about the subway? 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He 821 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:37,720 Speaker 1: has some interesting, maybe controversial question I got some questions 822 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: for your cats. All right, you ready for this first one? Guys? Yeah, 823 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: who's the one player that you'd like to throw a 824 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 1: lifeline too? Can you elaborate what you mean by that? 825 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not being a smart but like what 826 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: you're playing, a game will trouble on the shrost or 827 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: maybe you know, is there a player you had you'd 828 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: like to throw a lifeline too? Did he make sure 829 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: that he's still around? He's he looks like he could 830 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:07,320 Speaker 1: be drowning. Yeah, looks like he could be drowning. This 831 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,879 Speaker 1: is a movie or the final round of Who Wants 832 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 1: to Be a Man to be a Millionaire? Life? Yeah, 833 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: oh life. I was thinking like I was thinking like Jaws, 834 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,800 Speaker 1: like lifeline. You want to throw a lifeline too? Oh? 835 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: Que up the drop do it? I was thinking that too. 836 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah, I think he needs a lifeline. 837 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 1: Brandon Carr, I'm not ready. I'm I'm play all the 838 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: drops here. Maybe I'm maybe I'm being naive. I'm not 839 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 1: ready to think that a first round pick is in 840 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: danger heading into his third year. And I know that 841 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: the defensive line depth chart is pretty loaded jokes, but 842 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: what happened last year it was very concerning. I mean 843 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 1: the fact that he didn't have was healthy point and 844 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: was still not playing. This is to make the team, yea, 845 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: And I will Will McClay, you know, Mlle McClay did 846 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 1: his media tour, he came on our show, he did 847 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 1: all the media in the DFW area after the draft. 848 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 1: But he said, you know, he was like, you know, 849 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,840 Speaker 1: I want Tacco to go out there and compete and 850 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: you know, prove that he deserves to be on the roster. 851 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 1: But we're not going to hold the train for anybody, 852 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 1: which that's a telling quote. I'll throw one out to 853 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 1: that tight end he can he can rebound it. Rico. Yeah, yeah, 854 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 1: I mean why not. Oh did you guys have a 855 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 1: how about that? No, we didn't ask no, no, but 856 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: would have been good. Yeah, that's a good that's a um. Oh. 857 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 1: How about my guy Jordan Jordan Lewis. Yeah, may, I mean, 858 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 1: that's just that's just selfish on my part because I 859 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,360 Speaker 1: like him. I mean, Jordan Lewis was a guy I 860 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 1: was thinking of. Yeah, I mean, I know you guys 861 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: are ever seeing a taco and stuff and I kind 862 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: of think, I know what taco is, you know, because 863 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 1: I kind of saw that at Michigan. So you're writing 864 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 1: him off. I saw Late Bloomer in Michigan. The other 865 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: player at Michigan was a better player. Jordan Lewis a 866 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,360 Speaker 1: better player, and Jordan Lewis, for eight snaps against the 867 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,439 Speaker 1: Saints proved to me that some way, somehow he needs 868 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 1: to find a way on the field if he can. 869 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 1: That's a guy would throw a lifeline too, because I 870 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: think people once again are going to go into the 871 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 1: season not maybe not in this room. I know you 872 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: like Jordan Lewis. Yeah, yeah, But I think that that 873 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: was the direction I was. I just submitted the answer. 874 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 1: Or he's in a screwy situation because they're gonna they're 875 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 1: gonna take the field for the first practice in Oxnard 876 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,319 Speaker 1: and he's gonna look like me with all the other 877 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: corners that they have, which is to say he's short, 878 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: um and I just I wonder how he fits in 879 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: what Richard wants to do. He'll be taught, but where 880 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 1: if you have the talent, you have it and it'll 881 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 1: it'll come out there on the field. I just like 882 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 1: that you answered it. Usually you throw out these questions 883 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 1: that one about to how about this one? Could Sean 884 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 1: Lee outplay Layton Vanderish or Jalen Smith this year? What 885 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: kind of question is that at his new position? Just 886 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 1: can he outplay? Can he can he? Can he force 887 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 1: his way? I mean, he's they're talking. I talked to 888 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,400 Speaker 1: Rod Murnelli. He says he's gonna play him at SAM linebacker, 889 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 1: But could could it be instead of having a limited role, 890 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,839 Speaker 1: could he outplay Jalen or vander Esh and get his 891 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 1: starting role back as as a SAM or assume as 892 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 1: a will or the mic and the fact that they're 893 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,360 Speaker 1: moving him to Sam suggests no, because if they thought 894 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 1: that that was a realistic possibility, wouldn't they just have 895 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 1: a competition for the will job. Keep an eye on that, Okay, 896 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 1: I don't think it would get to that. I think 897 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 1: he will definitely be able to contribute on the field 898 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,839 Speaker 1: and make some plays and stuff. But as far as 899 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 1: I'll playing those two guys, I don't think so. I 900 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: don't need to. I think I think these are your 901 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 1: two guys that are you know, young, fast, strong, ready 902 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 1: to go durable. No, his his instincts are gonna try 903 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,359 Speaker 1: to get myself in trouble with the locker room here. 904 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 1: But his instincts, I mean, his instincts will give him 905 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:00,840 Speaker 1: a hell of a leg up, you know. And have 906 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 1: you seen him lately, Yeah, it looks good. He's very 907 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: bulked up, ready to play Sam. But I just it's 908 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 1: arguably the most physical position in football, and his competition 909 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:17,399 Speaker 1: is twenty two and twenty three. Yeah, so that gives 910 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 1: me pause. So I don't think so. But I mean 911 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 1: I'm not completely willing to bet against it. I think so, 912 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,359 Speaker 1: because if you I think he's gonna go out there 913 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 1: and try and beat one of those guys out I 914 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: think he'll play that. You know they're gonna playhim at 915 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 1: all three spots probably or probably two of the spots, 916 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,239 Speaker 1: the Will and the and the Sam. But if he's think, 917 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 1: if he's playing well enough and it's like, okay, well 918 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,360 Speaker 1: is he doing, maybe maybe he'd get a sophomore slump 919 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 1: from Banderesh. I'm not predicting it, but what if what 920 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 1: if he comes in the second year and all of 921 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,800 Speaker 1: a sudden, Well you talk about the instincts and stuff, 922 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,399 Speaker 1: which I'll say what I said, but you're right about 923 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 1: the health, Nick, that's a big question. He already had 924 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 1: the whole retiring thing in his head. I mean, I'm 925 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I talked about during this offseason that was 926 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,719 Speaker 1: a question, and obviously he decided to stay here. They 927 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,799 Speaker 1: reworked his contract, and he's healthy, he's doing well. But 928 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 1: we know how the story goes. And when you start 929 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 1: thinking that way, and I say that keeping in mind 930 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 1: still the kind of passion that she only has for 931 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,879 Speaker 1: this game, that it's bigger than anyone I've ever met, 932 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 1: I mean, this whole building or he said they reworked 933 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 1: this contract. I mean Did they rework it or is 934 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 1: it like one of those you know, fourth July car 935 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,759 Speaker 1: sales or they just slashed you know, yeah, rework sounds better. 936 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 1: This is a problem when you're talking about quarterback. It's 937 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 1: not a problem for linebacker. You're gonna need more than 938 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 1: two to make it through the season. Three to play. Two. 939 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:52,880 Speaker 1: Feed Zeke or rest zeek. Feed Zeke. I'm allowed to 940 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 1: whisper um feed him or arrest him. No, feed him 941 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 1: on this three meals, but don't let him snack all day. 942 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 1: He needs on the couch right feeling full. He doesn't 943 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 1: eat all day long, but he eats three strong meals. 944 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,760 Speaker 1: And then when when you think about he needs a snack, 945 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 1: then give the ball to Mike Wever or Tony Pollard. 946 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 1: He needs a backup who's capable of playing every has 947 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,399 Speaker 1: that narrative changed in the year, but no, But I'm 948 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,759 Speaker 1: still like, I'm gonna think about it. But we're in 949 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,399 Speaker 1: a year we were all like, oh if god, you know, man, 950 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 1: you're never gonna take him off to feel keep giving 951 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 1: the ball, give him the ball, get it. Now we're 952 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 1: at the point where it's like, man, we had better 953 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 1: find somebody to back that up. Don't we. I still 954 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,760 Speaker 1: feel that way, like all things being equal, he should 955 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 1: be out there because everyone has that feeling when Rod 956 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 1: Smith would go in the game would be like, oh yeah, 957 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 1: not only that, but and they probably still will with 958 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 1: whoever he's offered. Morris too, he's a warrior. But how 959 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 1: how many games did it look like his ankle was 960 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 1: dinged or his knee was ding Oh? He was not 961 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,600 Speaker 1: as quick as he had been in the past, right, 962 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 1: and you need a guy who can viably shoulder some 963 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,840 Speaker 1: of that load. But I mean, if he's healthy and fresh, 964 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 1: then I want him on the field. That's I didn't 965 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 1: even hesitate feed him if he's healthy to be fed. Agree. 966 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,279 Speaker 1: I mean, poor guy. You see him coming off the 967 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,879 Speaker 1: field last year and you can just feel for him 968 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,759 Speaker 1: and how tired his again, amazing talent. He has so 969 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 1: much power that he was still able to come back 970 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 1: and play and keep going and keep going. But I 971 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 1: think the Cowboys can benefit a lot more if they 972 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,440 Speaker 1: have a going to be That's an interesting narrative with 973 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,440 Speaker 1: you know, and I said this already in the spring. 974 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,799 Speaker 1: It sounds great. Paul Pollard is your kind of do 975 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,400 Speaker 1: everything guy. He's he's got some real juice. He's a 976 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 1: home run hitter, he's a receiver. And Webber, you know 977 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:45,600 Speaker 1: they had a higher grade on him than where they 978 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 1: got him. Right in reality, they drafted Switzer in the 979 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 1: fourth round and couldn't do anything with him. They traded 980 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,360 Speaker 1: for Tavon Austin, couldn't do anything with him, and Darius Jackson, 981 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,760 Speaker 1: who has six NFL carries to his name, was drafted 982 00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,799 Speaker 1: higher than Mike Webber. So you can't tell me right 983 00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 1: now now that they definitely upgraded the position. Maybe they did. 984 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,360 Speaker 1: I hope they did. They think they did, but we'll see. 985 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,800 Speaker 1: That's how I feel. See Kellen Moore, let's see, speaking 986 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 1: of Kellen Moore. First thing you're going to look for 987 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 1: and Kellen Moore this year, honestly the first just move 988 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:24,320 Speaker 1: people around, priests like I miss I don't miss Lucky Whitehead, 989 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,279 Speaker 1: but I miss what he did. You know, I miss 990 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 1: that element. I missed the missdirection like the Rams. You know, 991 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 1: that was the last game we got to watch. And 992 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,719 Speaker 1: that's what stands out in your head is you know 993 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 1: you set up C. J. Anderson all day and then 994 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 1: when the game's on the line, you do the wide 995 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,840 Speaker 1: receiver into round to pick up the first down or 996 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 1: the quarterback runs for the first down to kill the game. 997 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,840 Speaker 1: Give me that. That's the thing, and like that's something. 998 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,200 Speaker 1: What he's talking about is something you can see in 999 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,840 Speaker 1: training camp. What I'm talking about something we'll see in 1000 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,880 Speaker 1: the first game, and that's Dak running the ball. We 1001 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,919 Speaker 1: won't see it at any point in preseason and when 1002 00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,319 Speaker 1: we shouldn't, but I want to when it's there to 1003 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,279 Speaker 1: run the ball and some of those misdirections where he 1004 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,719 Speaker 1: you know, design reads for design runs for him. I 1005 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 1: just want to see him a little bit more with 1006 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,319 Speaker 1: the ball, but we won't see that until we get 1007 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,960 Speaker 1: to the season. So have fun, have fun. This is 1008 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,959 Speaker 1: a young team, Yes, have fun, have fun, have fun 1009 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,799 Speaker 1: on the field. Obviously being smart about it. By that 1010 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,560 Speaker 1: what I mean by that ball is still fun. Yes, 1011 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 1: it's very fun. No, nothing about this fun fun. You 1012 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,560 Speaker 1: have a young team. Just be creative, get out there, 1013 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,720 Speaker 1: try different things. Obviously, you have enough time to get prepared, 1014 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,520 Speaker 1: you have training camp, you have preseason to plan everything 1015 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 1: out when you go out there, don't keep that same 1016 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 1: old mentality that the team has kept for years. Just 1017 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,360 Speaker 1: go out there, try new things and have fun. Because 1018 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,120 Speaker 1: he will just happen. Don't be predictable. That's it. It 1019 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 1: sounds great. One year contract on the line. He's like, 1020 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,240 Speaker 1: well we had fun, Yeah, we had fun getting fired. Yeah. 1021 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 1: Only one season I've covered would I describe as fun, 1022 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,359 Speaker 1: And it was when they won eleven games in a row. Yeah. Well, 1023 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 1: I say, don't like when you go out there by 1024 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 1: that what I'm trying to say, don't don't keep repeating 1025 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,279 Speaker 1: the same play Everyone knew what was going to happen. Oh, 1026 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 1: here we go again, Here we go again. If you're 1027 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,239 Speaker 1: having have fun with it, get creative, have fun with 1028 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 1: the playbook. Let's get creative here. Let's try new things 1029 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,239 Speaker 1: and let's make some magic happen. I absolutely know what 1030 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,279 Speaker 1: you meant. I just you know people, I mean, you 1031 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,919 Speaker 1: know players later are like man, football stops being fun, 1032 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,680 Speaker 1: like when you get to college, and it only gets 1033 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 1: less fun as you go. So, hey, if you did 1034 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,440 Speaker 1: the same thing every day at your job, it wouldn't 1035 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,279 Speaker 1: be fun. I hear you right now. You try different things, 1036 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,400 Speaker 1: then it keeps the job funs this front office going 1037 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 1: to regret not drafting a safety at the second round 1038 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:54,640 Speaker 1: this year. That's tough because, like you know, one Thornhill's 1039 00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,480 Speaker 1: probably gonna make like this amazing play for the Chiefs 1040 00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,239 Speaker 1: at some point this season, pointed on Twitter. Why you 1041 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,160 Speaker 1: know it happens every year? I mean, t J. Watton, 1042 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,279 Speaker 1: Taco Charlton, everybody knows. But like, I don't know, are 1043 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 1: they are they not going to accomplish their goals this 1044 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,680 Speaker 1: year because of what a safety drafted at fifty eight 1045 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,880 Speaker 1: would be doing. It's it's possible, is of course it's possible. 1046 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,640 Speaker 1: Layton vander Esh nobody thought he'd be a pro bowler, 1047 00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,160 Speaker 1: But I don't. I don't really think so. I mean, 1048 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:26,560 Speaker 1: you know, when when you think about Tyrone Crawford's contract 1049 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,879 Speaker 1: and and Antoine Woods is going to be a new 1050 00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,239 Speaker 1: contract coming up, and and I you know, not having 1051 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 1: David Irving, I just think that was I mean, I again, 1052 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,279 Speaker 1: I was all about wan Thorne Hill. But I know 1053 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,040 Speaker 1: why they did or I think I know why they 1054 00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,640 Speaker 1: did that. So they want to just keep those defensive 1055 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,880 Speaker 1: you know, those tacks. They had their choice of guys, 1056 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, they really did. They had their choice. They 1057 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,800 Speaker 1: they have just never put a high priority on safety 1058 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,520 Speaker 1: like like we all have. They just haven't clearly right 1059 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:54,160 Speaker 1: right and not I mean yeah, it's not the situation 1060 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,640 Speaker 1: as it is is not good enough. But like I said, 1061 00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,359 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I don't think wan Thorne 1062 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,120 Speaker 1: Hill's gonna maybe be the difference. Maybe they think it, 1063 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,799 Speaker 1: they will regret it. I don't think they would. Even 1064 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,839 Speaker 1: if they do, they thinking Savior Woods has hung the moon, 1065 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,439 Speaker 1: they could regret it on day five of training camp. 1066 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 1: They could regret it, and they'll never tell us. So 1067 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,799 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. But they'll never tell us, just like 1068 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,600 Speaker 1: they say, well, we don't need a number one receiver 1069 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,480 Speaker 1: until they actually until they make a trade for the 1070 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:26,400 Speaker 1: first round. Yeah. True, More likely a third quarterback or 1071 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,279 Speaker 1: a fourth tight end. Oh that's a good question, um, 1072 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,080 Speaker 1: because if you're talking about a team, it's extremely deep. 1073 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:37,320 Speaker 1: Oh this is that getting down to the fifty third spot, 1074 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,400 Speaker 1: four tight end or four third quarter, fourth tight end. 1075 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 1: I don't need a third quarterback anymore because Mike White 1076 00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,200 Speaker 1: is my backup. And if he's not my backup, he's 1077 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 1: not better than Cooper Rush, then I'm not I don't 1078 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:52,439 Speaker 1: want him anymore. That's just me. Sorry. I don't think 1079 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:56,479 Speaker 1: he got some You don't need three quarterbacks, not those three. 1080 00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,360 Speaker 1: That's tough because like these are not the are not 1081 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,839 Speaker 1: black and white situations, like you're talking about the most 1082 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,400 Speaker 1: important position in the game. And then a very special 1083 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:10,200 Speaker 1: case in Rico gathers where like does his resume justify 1084 00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,040 Speaker 1: the roster spot? No, but does he have this undeniable 1085 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,439 Speaker 1: talent that a lot of players don't? Then maybe does 1086 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:19,319 Speaker 1: he have the favor of the general manager a little bit? Yes? 1087 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:23,319 Speaker 1: So I don't know. That's tough. He still has it. 1088 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 1: That's why I mean, I'm working for false you don't 1089 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 1: think so. Yeah, I don't think he has it anymore. 1090 00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,759 Speaker 1: I wouldn't fill him the lifeline if you all right, well, 1091 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:36,479 Speaker 1: in that case, then I'd say the third quarterback, these 1092 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 1: three or somebody else some accounts still out there floating around. 1093 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,120 Speaker 1: You guys act like like, oh, no, I love Mike. 1094 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,279 Speaker 1: If it's not my wife, you need one that's not 1095 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:49,960 Speaker 1: one of them. I don't need them both. You guys 1096 00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 1: act like you don't know this coaching staff, Like that's 1097 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:53,759 Speaker 1: that's exactly the type of thing. I don't know the 1098 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,000 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. He's feels like I don't need these two. 1099 00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,839 Speaker 1: Then Garrett will be like, ah, Cooper's like me, we're 1100 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,959 Speaker 1: keeping him. That's what he'll say, well, and Kellen's like, well, 1101 00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,799 Speaker 1: who do you think wins that battle for the backup job? 1102 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,160 Speaker 1: Then between those two they want or they both just flame. 1103 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,759 Speaker 1: They want Mike White too, but I think Cooper Rush 1104 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,239 Speaker 1: will just no one did anything memorable. See that's what 1105 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,480 Speaker 1: bothered me so much about Mike wa Know, you were 1106 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 1: this time last year and he was gonna take Cooper's job. 1107 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,880 Speaker 1: And I absolutely believed it with my heart that he 1108 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:25,600 Speaker 1: was gonna that he was going to be better. And 1109 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 1: and Cooper Rush played his way. He put Kellen Moore 1110 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,520 Speaker 1: into coaching if you think about it. Yeah, you know, 1111 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,479 Speaker 1: he basically played, well, they okay, killing by, We're gonna 1112 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,600 Speaker 1: make this guy the backup. That's why he's gotta need him. Well, 1113 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,680 Speaker 1: Cooper Cooper Rush was I mean two years ago, he 1114 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,160 Speaker 1: had one of the best preseasons of any quarterback in 1115 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,359 Speaker 1: the league. Yeah, and so all of a sudden, now 1116 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, but neither one of them played worth a 1117 00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 1: damn in the preseason, and that I think that's why 1118 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,319 Speaker 1: you had to keep two because they both were so 1119 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,600 Speaker 1: just block. They got some badass undrafted offensive lineman this year, 1120 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,160 Speaker 1: so maybe they can keep him upright and let us 1121 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,520 Speaker 1: get Colombo did say that. He said, you know, these 1122 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:11,040 Speaker 1: third and fourth quarters of these preseason games, Yeah, so showers. 1123 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,120 Speaker 1: I just think they'll both be here, and maybe I'll 1124 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 1: be wrong. I'm wrong about a lot of stuff. So 1125 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,680 Speaker 1: you're going with three tight ends? No, yeah, yeah, three 1126 00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,960 Speaker 1: tight ends. You said Rico, You threw him a right 1127 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,439 Speaker 1: still until they cut cut Rico. I mean, I still 1128 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,320 Speaker 1: think he'll be a part of it too, So I 1129 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,560 Speaker 1: think he he'll have a shot. I don't I don't 1130 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:34,480 Speaker 1: doubt it's gonna happen, but I would cut one of 1131 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:38,880 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks and see the possibility of bringing someone else 1132 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,560 Speaker 1: in as a backup with more experience. Quarterback, Yeah yeah, quarterback. 1133 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,560 Speaker 1: Um as far as Rico, I mean, I thought that 1134 00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,440 Speaker 1: was over last year, but it wasn't. So you were 1135 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,480 Speaker 1: not throwing him a lifeline. You were pushing his head 1136 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,480 Speaker 1: under the water. I'm gonna limit my comments right now. 1137 00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna do that too. We just have a show. 1138 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 1: Well the time. I don't probably regret what I was 1139 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,760 Speaker 1: about to say, so I'm not gonna say it. Okay, 1140 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 1: thank you Brian for coming in the show and having 1141 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:13,160 Speaker 1: all this fun questions. Nick, Thank you. David Hellman here 1142 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,720 Speaker 1: with us texting on Twitter. Twitter Man, thank you guys 1143 00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 1: how much for tuning in for another episode of The Break. 1144 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,680 Speaker 1: This has been Dallas Cowboys Break on Dallas Cowboys dot 1145 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:27,200 Speaker 1: Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys 1146 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 1: dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.