WEBVTT - QLS Classic: Jon Batiste

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<v Speaker 1>Course Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic

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<v Speaker 1>episode was produced by the team at Pandora. Musician John

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<v Speaker 1>Batiste joins Team Supreme to rehash his journey from smalltown

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<v Speaker 1>Louisiana to musical director of The Late Show with Stephen Colbert.

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<v Speaker 1>Originally released March fourteenth, twenty nineteen, Just follow On, You'll

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<v Speaker 1>get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Suprema Supremo, Roll Call, Suprema su su Supremo, Roll.

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<v Speaker 3>Call, Suprema Supremo, Roll Call Supremo, Supremo, rolls all day Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>well winter spring and summer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, two band leaders of Late Night. Yeah, both started

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<v Speaker 1>out as drummer Supremo Supremo roll God. Who's sma, uh

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<v Speaker 1>Supremo roll You're both real talented?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah Yeah, and the best band leader is Doc Severn

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<v Speaker 4>Suprema Supremo.

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<v Speaker 1>Roll I fell in my second line after the show. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but have no fear.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah Supremo, roll Call, Supremo, Supremo.

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<v Speaker 1>Roll.

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<v Speaker 6>Her name is Boss Bill, Yeah, right, as a Halogen,

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah Bill and a Steed and some Hollywood Africans roll Spremo,

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<v Speaker 6>roll call, Suprema so Supremo, roll call.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and it's going down Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Thomson yeah, all right, now.

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<v Speaker 3>Supremo Supremo, role called Suprema Supremo.

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<v Speaker 1>Roll it's John Battie. Yeah, and I'm in the house.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>We about to get down. Yeah, that's what we about.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh call Suprema su Supremo.

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<v Speaker 2>Roll call Suprema Suck, Suck Supremo, Roll call Supremo Supremo,

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<v Speaker 2>Roll call Supremo, Sun Supremo, roll call.

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another episode of course some

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Late Night the Late Night. Right.

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<v Speaker 8>Wait, he's starting already, He's starting already. Mother is Jamaica.

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<v Speaker 1>Shut. I knew I was going to have to play

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so rand Love make I love that. I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to say, I mean, I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>introduce our guests, but no, let's introd all right, well

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's just let's just keep it tradition, so we don't,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, scare off our viewers. Our guest today actually

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<v Speaker 1>needs no introduction, ladies and gentlemen. And there's not Late

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<v Speaker 1>Night Wars happening in this building yet. No. Our guest

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<v Speaker 1>today is I will say he's band leader supreme. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he is multi instrumentalist. You are a Juilliard graduate, And

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say that most of America currently now knows you

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<v Speaker 1>as the band leader for the number one show in

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<v Speaker 1>late night. Okay, no, no fake news, fake news no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no snort nothing, h of course it's uh late Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>technically what is the show called. It's late Night with

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Corbert Late show, the late show. There's like late

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<v Speaker 1>night late show later tonight. Yes, the show with Stephen Colbert.

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to Quest of Supreme the

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<v Speaker 1>one and only John Patize. That's all man, So Bill

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<v Speaker 1>going on, Bill, I'm having to see I have not

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<v Speaker 1>seen since uh the salon, the foods a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>your house. That was like, have you ever had him

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<v Speaker 1>on Sesame Street? I just asked him.

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<v Speaker 7>He got very upset because I grilled him about hasn't

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<v Speaker 7>he been on street?

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<v Speaker 9>He's like tailor, Man, I know this. I have talked

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<v Speaker 9>to him about this, and I'm working on it. Everybody

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<v Speaker 9>simmered down. I haven't been here in a long time.

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<v Speaker 9>Everybody's for question. I've been here for a ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Just check it. Wait, can I ask you something? John?

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<v Speaker 7>This is the one.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the question I always wanted to know. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you silently because I know you have history way before

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<v Speaker 1>I knew of you, Like Lenny Kravis put me on

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<v Speaker 1>to you long ago, and you you You've actually inspired

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<v Speaker 1>some ideas I've had about how to put show presentations

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<v Speaker 1>on and everything. So I've known about you way before Colbert.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you got hired by Colbert because of the

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<v Speaker 1>reputation that you were building. Yes, are you? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>get slightly annoyed when people come up to you and

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<v Speaker 1>just like, hey, Stephen, Colbert's guy, like without knowing the history,

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<v Speaker 1>like you just came out of nowhere to Yes, that

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<v Speaker 1>happened to you a.

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<v Speaker 10>Lot, it does, you know, Like I'll be going somewhere

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<v Speaker 10>and I'll run into somebody and they'll be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 10>you're the guy from Colbert. What's your name? And then

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<v Speaker 10>after a while they were like, oh, yeah, that's John Bettiste.

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<v Speaker 10>But it's still from from the Lake Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I mean you could be from Colbert technically, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're from it, but it's almost like, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Fallon's drummer. Yes, and you.

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<v Speaker 7>Don't have the same issue too sometimes Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's why.

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<v Speaker 10>It's it's cool to and as as you do when

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<v Speaker 10>you have other things that you do that kind of

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<v Speaker 10>paints a full picture.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually, all right, now that we're saying this, I

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<v Speaker 1>believe that's probably the real reason I stick to nineteen jobs,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's almost like, Hey, what am I my chef,

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<v Speaker 1>my cook guy today and my you know, music teacher

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<v Speaker 1>today and my like I always wanted to know. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that slightly irksome when people don't do the research and know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>your history.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, it's it's something that I think over time, people

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<v Speaker 10>and people still have been digging back into the catalog

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<v Speaker 10>of seeing things that we're done. But I think over time,

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<v Speaker 10>the more you do and the more you just keep

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<v Speaker 10>doing your thing and not letting any one thing define you,

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<v Speaker 10>the more that you can continue to kind of bring

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<v Speaker 10>people into what you do with your art or your creativity.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>But what about the flip side?

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<v Speaker 9>Whereas what I was gonna say on the other side

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<v Speaker 9>was give you the megaphones that neither of you had

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<v Speaker 9>ever had PCT Right, I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Gonna go out.

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<v Speaker 11>When I saw the last episode of Corbert Report, when

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<v Speaker 11>you guys did the line, yeah, that was the first

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<v Speaker 11>time I ever saw you, and I was like, oh shit.

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<v Speaker 11>And then I just did the research and I was like, Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 11>it's a way to bring new people in.

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<v Speaker 10>Absolutely it's amazing. I mean, oh good, just being on

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<v Speaker 10>a show that's kind of like this is fraternity and

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<v Speaker 10>it's hard to have any sort of malice or disrespect

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<v Speaker 10>to it, even if people just know you for that

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<v Speaker 10>right now. But I feel like I've always just been

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<v Speaker 10>somebody who likes to create and explore different things and

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<v Speaker 10>evolve and grow, and I'm always pushing myself to try

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<v Speaker 10>to find something else that's going to challenge me. So

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<v Speaker 10>the consistency of the show is one thing, but I

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<v Speaker 10>have to balance it out even just for me, not

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<v Speaker 10>even for the sake of people knowing that there's more

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<v Speaker 10>that I have to offer, but just for my own

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<v Speaker 10>well being as an artist. I got to keep pushing

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<v Speaker 10>and creating. So it gives me a chance to share

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<v Speaker 10>it with a lot more people.

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<v Speaker 1>How easy is it to do? Because I know that

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<v Speaker 1>there's many sides to John Fatiz as far as like

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<v Speaker 1>your like, you'll do traditional jazz records stuff with State Human,

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<v Speaker 1>You'll do different projects. What I primarily knew you for

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<v Speaker 1>were these sort of kind of musicals speak easy so

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<v Speaker 1>to sea where I'll say, you know, years before he

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<v Speaker 1>was on the show. He would word would get around

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<v Speaker 1>that there's gonna be a secret John Patisse show at

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<v Speaker 1>some nondescript random warehouse in Harlem or in Brooklyn or

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<v Speaker 1>in the Bronx somewhere, And it's almost like it's the

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<v Speaker 1>musical version of Well, only New Yorkers will get this

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<v Speaker 1>reference of like Sleep No More. Sleep No More is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like a play where the fourth wall is

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<v Speaker 1>sort of exposed and you're part of the play. You

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<v Speaker 1>as the spectator. So you go to this like big

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<v Speaker 1>wide open space and then John and State Human basically perform.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no traditional stage, so there's almost like four setups

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<v Speaker 1>they you know, they'll they'll pick one side of the

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<v Speaker 1>corner where their music's set up, and then they'll march

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<v Speaker 1>to the other side of the room where there's other

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<v Speaker 1>music instruments set up. Like everyone gets a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>be the front row seat, and it's and it's immersive,

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<v Speaker 1>and they have like stuff hanging around you could play

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<v Speaker 1>instruments and all that other stuff and enjoining. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>I never seen a show in which the artists that

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<v Speaker 1>the audience is actually immersed in with the show. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you able to still do those secret Smurf shows at all?

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<v Speaker 6>Is it like.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's hard. I mean, I'm sure, as you know.

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<v Speaker 10>The to keep the energy level up after doing the show,

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<v Speaker 10>I had to take the first six months when I

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<v Speaker 10>started doing Colbert just to figure out how to do

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<v Speaker 10>it and and figuring out how to balance everything else

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<v Speaker 10>that I have been doing with now my job on

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<v Speaker 10>the show. But then after I figured that out, I

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<v Speaker 10>started to focus more on recording things and be in

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<v Speaker 10>the studio because I was mostly playing live during that

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<v Speaker 10>time and exploring how to really present a real immersive

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<v Speaker 10>experience that brought people together so it work.

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<v Speaker 7>I saw it live in Philly when you did it. Oh,

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<v Speaker 7>you're in the lobby of the Kimmel Center. Yeah, that show.

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<v Speaker 7>It was an amazing show that was fun for free.

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<v Speaker 6>I was like.

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<v Speaker 7>This and the lily jumped in the crowd went around.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I was wondering, like, how do y'all get paid, because.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, sometimes, like when we go on the road, we'd

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<v Speaker 10>do them after the show, so it would be we

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<v Speaker 10>would take the guarantee from the show and use that.

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<v Speaker 1>So you do a regular show, right, and then that's

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<v Speaker 1>like your Prince after party. Yeah, I never knew that.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was your bread and butter.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, at one point it was when we were in

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<v Speaker 10>New York. Right then we started to get known for that,

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<v Speaker 10>and then we got an agent, and then we went

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<v Speaker 10>on the road. And then we went on the road.

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<v Speaker 10>We didn't want to stop doing that because every venue

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<v Speaker 10>doesn't accommodate, right that that kind of performance. So it

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<v Speaker 10>was kind of like, okay, well we can just do

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<v Speaker 10>two shows right right. It's cool. It's cool to see

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<v Speaker 10>how people react to the music when you put when

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<v Speaker 10>you put it in a different context, because like you

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<v Speaker 10>if we play jazz, for instance, and it's in a

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<v Speaker 10>jazz club, it's much different than if like somebody sitting

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<v Speaker 10>next to you on the piano or somebody sitting behind

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<v Speaker 10>the drums and they can really see the interaction with

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<v Speaker 10>the rhythm section and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that does a plan sometimes backfire? Because you do

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<v Speaker 1>present this whole speak easy thing like it's it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like sometimes it's almost like you're you're walking

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<v Speaker 1>into a set of an old like fifties burlesque, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So whoever like designs the stuff, and you know, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>I'll see like people trying to sit on your piano

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<v Speaker 1>bench with you as your drink. Like, so, how you

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<v Speaker 1>know some drunk guy suddenly wants to sit in on

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<v Speaker 1>drums or know, Like, how do you guys control that situation?

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<v Speaker 10>It's it's it's a casualty of the situation, Like you

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<v Speaker 10>got to go into it expecting some people to get

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<v Speaker 10>super free. That's the way we're like, Oh, this cat's

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<v Speaker 10>about to get super free. And then when that happens,

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<v Speaker 10>you almost plan the show, Like the set morphs from

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<v Speaker 10>whatever it was gonna be to accommodate whatever happens. So

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<v Speaker 10>if that guy comes in grabs drumsticks or something, then okay,

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<v Speaker 10>well let's go into the drum circle that we had

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<v Speaker 10>planned for the next three songs down and put that right.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 11>There's a question because I haven't I haven't seen one

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<v Speaker 11>of these, but they sound amazing, and I'm wondering, have

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<v Speaker 11>you ever done these at the schools?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, yeah, not in New York actually, but we've done

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<v Speaker 10>them in schools we went to in Amsterdam, we actually

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<v Speaker 10>we did we did a show at the concert Gibaut,

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<v Speaker 10>which is like a concert hall there, and that was

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<v Speaker 10>just like a a traditional show. And then we went

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<v Speaker 10>into school and did basically kind of like this kind

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<v Speaker 10>of curated thing but in their auditorium. But that was

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<v Speaker 10>one thing we didn't. We also went into one of

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<v Speaker 10>the their equivalent of like the hood, and I got

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<v Speaker 10>I got them to put a piano in the middle

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<v Speaker 10>of the street, which I always loved that visual, just

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<v Speaker 10>having like instruments on the block, which I mean, I

0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:26.080
<v Speaker 10>know you you played. And that's kind of how we

0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:30.760
<v Speaker 10>started this whole kind of concept of immersion, which is

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<v Speaker 10>when we started playing on the streets and we play

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<v Speaker 10>in the subways in New York and we'll see how

0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:39.680
<v Speaker 10>people react when you see see the band come into

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<v Speaker 10>a cart and just set up for like thirty minutes

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<v Speaker 10>and play. It's like, Wow, these y'all not asking for money,

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<v Speaker 10>y'all not buss right because.

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<v Speaker 7>At the end you get to the next car cident

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<v Speaker 7>on ass That's how you get to be.

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<v Speaker 11>Honest, it's always it's always with the wary look when

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<v Speaker 11>somebody sets up on the trains.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, wait, I know exactly, like the first five

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<v Speaker 1>minutes on the Hardest have you do that? Have you

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<v Speaker 1>done New York trains yet? Oh? Yeah, yeah, really I

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<v Speaker 1>always wanted to do that everyone, Yeah, we should do

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<v Speaker 1>that one day. Yeah yeah, if a train and just

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<v Speaker 1>I guess nothing shocking in New York City? Who was

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<v Speaker 1>It was like who are those two guys pen Station

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that, and like nobody knew, like nobody

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<v Speaker 1>noticed it that they were there.

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<v Speaker 7>Did it once?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, I saw just like shredding the violin

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<v Speaker 1>and like Bleaker Street and people are like, actually, come

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<v Speaker 1>to think of it. So I tried to once get

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<v Speaker 1>jay Z to come to one of your events. Has

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<v Speaker 1>he seen it yet? Not that not the he saw

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<v Speaker 1>traditional one damn because the thing was, uh, I got

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<v Speaker 1>him the halfway agreed to it. I had seen the

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<v Speaker 1>first time I saw you, was I guessed, or the

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<v Speaker 1>time in which uh jay was doing something at Carnegie Hall.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still a bad beating. So I said, okay, this

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<v Speaker 1>is what I want to do. I said, what I

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<v Speaker 1>want to do? This actually after reasonable doubt slightly, this

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<v Speaker 1>is like when American Gangster was out. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 1>told him, I said, this is what we're going to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to do someone on stage right, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to march into the the four air the

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<v Speaker 1>p and then when you're done, you and just Blaze

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<v Speaker 1>are going to do the Encore and the Nose Bleeds.

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<v Speaker 1>And he looked at me like, I'm not doing that shit,

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<v Speaker 1>but he I convinced him at least to do. He

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<v Speaker 1>did his Encore and the Nose Bleed. And unfortunately, what

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize with with Carnegie Hall was that the

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<v Speaker 1>way that the balconies are built, if you're like under,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're sitting on the floor row, you can't see

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening right there. So and of course they're like, no,

0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:01.760
<v Speaker 1>you got you can't stand and you know, like it

0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:05.520
<v Speaker 1>stands at Carnegie Hall. It was rather frustrating for the

0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:10.440
<v Speaker 1>people on the who weren't in the news right right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I bet they have a close up view for once

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<v Speaker 1>exactly exactly. I was like, no, just give it, give

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<v Speaker 1>them to there. It's good.

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<v Speaker 10>So we're amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know your story, like where were you

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<v Speaker 1>born and how was music brought to your life?

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<v Speaker 10>Oh wow, So I was born in actually Metoie, Louisiana,

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<v Speaker 10>and I was raised in Kenner, Louisiana, between Kenner and

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<v Speaker 10>New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, there are other places besides me. These

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<v Speaker 1>are like.

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<v Speaker 10>Literally ten minutes outside of New Orleans. They're like suburbs

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<v Speaker 10>of New Orleans. But basically even though the airport is

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<v Speaker 10>in Kenner, it's called New Orleans International, Oh okay, so

0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:59.200
<v Speaker 10>it's like the New Orleans area. And my dad he's

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<v Speaker 10>a great bassist. My mother's not a musician, but she

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<v Speaker 10>has a really good ear. And my dad had six

0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:10.639
<v Speaker 10>brothers and they all played in the band together. And

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<v Speaker 10>from the six brothers, they're like thirty cousins. And at

0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:16.760
<v Speaker 10>the time when I was growing up, I was the

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<v Speaker 10>youngest of the cousins. Of all that Brude, Yeah, of

0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:23.680
<v Speaker 10>all of them when I was growing up, I was

0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:26.600
<v Speaker 10>the youngest, and there were two that were closer to

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<v Speaker 10>my age, and we started the junior band together. And

0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.040
<v Speaker 10>the three of us were drummers when we started the band.

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<v Speaker 10>But you can't have three drummers in the band. And

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<v Speaker 10>I'm the youngest, so obviously I'm gonna be the one

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<v Speaker 10>that switches instrument and the second youngest. He had to

0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:43.080
<v Speaker 10>switch the instrument because everybody wanted to play the drums,

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<v Speaker 10>so I switched to piano. Then it's around the time

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<v Speaker 10>it was like ten or eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>Adjustment.

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<v Speaker 10>It was I was already kind of like we would

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<v Speaker 10>pick out songs from video games, and all of us

0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:13.240
<v Speaker 10>would Mario when Sega came out. Sonic Oh, Sonic soundtrack

0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:14.920
<v Speaker 10>is amazing, maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>Or maybe not created by Michael Jackson, by the way,

0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:20.639
<v Speaker 1>I know, maybe or maybe not, we don't know.

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<v Speaker 10>Soundtrack is incredible, and street Fighter soundtracks from Street Fighter too,

0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:32.080
<v Speaker 10>all the way street Fighter Alpha, Final Fantasy seven like

0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:36.359
<v Speaker 10>we would play. We would legit transcribe the soundtrack and

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<v Speaker 10>play it on piano. So I kind of had a

0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:41.840
<v Speaker 10>little bit of piano chops. And then I was also

0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:45.280
<v Speaker 10>kind of, uh, you know, taking classical piano lessons but

0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:48.600
<v Speaker 10>not really taking them seriously. So I had a little

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<v Speaker 10>bit of a foundation, but when I switched to a piano,

0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:54.040
<v Speaker 10>I didn't really get serious about it until I was

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<v Speaker 10>like thirteen.

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<v Speaker 7>Did y'all play for other kids? Because it seems like

0:19:57.200 --> 0:19:59.000
<v Speaker 7>that would have been dope for other kids to like

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<v Speaker 7>enter the world of as instrumentation and stuff.

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<v Speaker 10>It was cool when we did a gig every year

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<v Speaker 10>at the Children's Museum. That was our first regular gig.

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<v Speaker 10>The band's called the Baptist Kids, and we printed these shirts,

0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:19.520
<v Speaker 10>uh it said purple and white shirts Baptist Kids, and

0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:24.399
<v Speaker 10>it had us on the shirt cartoon versions I remember

0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:27.159
<v Speaker 10>and we'll play. Our only gig for a while was

0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:30.280
<v Speaker 10>the Children's Museum in New Orleans every year, and we

0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:33.560
<v Speaker 10>played for kids at the museum game play the video

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<v Speaker 10>game Songs, and we played Marti Gross songs, Saints Go

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<v Speaker 10>Watch and then you know how uh, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Won't even say how important, but how And I know

0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:49.720
<v Speaker 1>that you're from Louisiana, so you gotta tread like how

0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:58.600
<v Speaker 1>burdensome is the idea of the tradition of New Orleans music.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I almost feel like if you come out the womb,

0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:08.920
<v Speaker 1>it's like you have to know every solo from Satimo.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to know it's true and is it right? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the thing is that you're I mean, I've

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<v Speaker 1>I've grew up in I mean, I've seen jazz nazis

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<v Speaker 1>all my life and.

0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:26.360
<v Speaker 9>That's a technical term, jazz nazis.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a real But I just really Steve is looking

0:21:34.840 --> 0:21:41.160
<v Speaker 1>at me right now. I asked the question, will you child?

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean there's I mean, the reputation of New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to deal with Ellis Marcella's who I was

0:21:51.840 --> 0:21:55.080
<v Speaker 1>a kid. He told me give up, like you know,

0:21:55.840 --> 0:21:58.119
<v Speaker 1>he he just straight up told me to give up.

0:21:58.720 --> 0:22:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Like and I think that's what really pushed me to

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<v Speaker 1>not following because I went to school with Christian McBride,

0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Joey de Francesco, all these guys. So I was striving

0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:14.679
<v Speaker 1>to be a young lion. Yeah. Yeah, And I did

0:22:14.760 --> 0:22:18.560
<v Speaker 1>this masterclass with Ellis and he just like it was

0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:22.680
<v Speaker 1>past embarrassment and humiliation, like and you know, I was good,

0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:24.720
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, But it was just like,

0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:28.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, he like the tone of it. He like

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<v Speaker 1>the shirt I was wearing, like you're not a real

0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:35.159
<v Speaker 1>jazz cat, And like I just I gave up. I

0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:37.879
<v Speaker 1>didn't give up. I just like, well, you're right, go

0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:39.840
<v Speaker 1>let me go to what I really love, which which

0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:40.360
<v Speaker 1>is hip hop.

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<v Speaker 7>Did he have a circle back? I just I just

0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:42.159
<v Speaker 7>need to know.

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<v Speaker 1>Branford and I laugh at her all the time, don't

0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:51.440
<v Speaker 1>mind dad. So, but I'm asking you, uh, was your

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<v Speaker 1>being the youngest of it? Where you're was your family

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<v Speaker 1>the same way where it was just like you don't

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<v Speaker 1>get any respect from us until you learn like everything

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<v Speaker 1>from Maple leave Rat to all these old scrolls of

0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:10.679
<v Speaker 1>ye it was it was like.

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<v Speaker 10>It was it was an interesting mix of different flavors

0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:22.240
<v Speaker 10>of that. So, like, my family was coming from the

0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:27.639
<v Speaker 10>the Meters and it's like the funk tradition. So my

0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:32.040
<v Speaker 10>uncle was was one of the first keyboarders in the

0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:38.080
<v Speaker 10>Meters uh, and then my cousin Russell, he took over

0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:42.040
<v Speaker 10>in the Meters after Ziggaboo whose original drama Yeah so

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:46.480
<v Speaker 10>zig that that was like my immediate family, and that's

0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:50.240
<v Speaker 10>kind of like what that's what I got from from

0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:52.639
<v Speaker 10>being around them, was kind of that tradition and just

0:23:52.920 --> 0:23:56.800
<v Speaker 10>almost vicariously because it was never like John play this,

0:23:57.400 --> 0:24:00.680
<v Speaker 10>this is how this beat goes, uh, the how these calls.

0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:03.040
<v Speaker 10>I would just be on stage as a kid, and

0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:05.840
<v Speaker 10>I'd be watching and kind of absorbing that. And that

0:24:06.040 --> 0:24:10.359
<v Speaker 10>was fun because that kind of influenced a lot of

0:24:10.480 --> 0:24:16.400
<v Speaker 10>how I look at performing for people in stage presence

0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:19.679
<v Speaker 10>and also just the communal aspect of music because they

0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:23.960
<v Speaker 10>would be playing and sometimes you know, you'd have musicians

0:24:24.000 --> 0:24:26.760
<v Speaker 10>just coming up on stage unannounced, and you know, it

0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:30.560
<v Speaker 10>would turn into this massive tribal groove and that was

0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:32.760
<v Speaker 10>one side of it. And then as I got older

0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:36.199
<v Speaker 10>and started getting into jazz, around thirteen and fourteen, there

0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:38.000
<v Speaker 10>was a camp that we all went to called the

0:24:38.280 --> 0:24:43.480
<v Speaker 10>Lewis Satchmo Armstrong Summer Jazz Camp. And that's when I

0:24:43.520 --> 0:24:46.320
<v Speaker 10>started getting exposed to what you're talking about. And I

0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:51.600
<v Speaker 10>was lucky because there were a few of the I

0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:55.240
<v Speaker 10>call them like the village Elders that were just like

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<v Speaker 10>so open minded. But they also came from the generation

0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:02.160
<v Speaker 10>where it was like, you know, people were hard on them,

0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:05.320
<v Speaker 10>but they were so open minded with us, Like Alvin Battist,

0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:07.840
<v Speaker 10>he would just he would teach us how to play

0:25:07.880 --> 0:25:10.640
<v Speaker 10>stuff that was way beyond our level, but he would

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:13.040
<v Speaker 10>do it in these little baby increments, Like we'd be

0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:15.080
<v Speaker 10>playing Giant Steps, and he would teach us like two

0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:18.320
<v Speaker 10>notes at a time, and then after we got the melody,

0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:20.680
<v Speaker 10>he would just show us the harmony. And then after

0:25:20.720 --> 0:25:22.639
<v Speaker 10>it would take like a month, but then after a

0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:25.720
<v Speaker 10>month we'd be like twelve thirteen playing Giant Steps, but

0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:28.119
<v Speaker 10>we wouldn't know that we were playing Giant Steps right,

0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:33.240
<v Speaker 10>and that if I didn't have him and a few

0:25:33.320 --> 0:25:37.360
<v Speaker 10>others who were kind of more just like, Okay, I'm

0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:39.359
<v Speaker 10>not gonna come at it from a critical place. I'm

0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:41.680
<v Speaker 10>gonna come at it from a place of okay, everybody

0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:46.359
<v Speaker 10>has a voice. Learned this and then once we got older,

0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:49.520
<v Speaker 10>I played in his band, the Jastronauts, and that was

0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:52.560
<v Speaker 10>a band where it was like, if it's not different

0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:57.400
<v Speaker 10>and weird, then it's not right. He'd always say it's

0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:00.840
<v Speaker 10>you can be correct, but that don't make it right.

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<v Speaker 1>And I actually believe that he would say, because I

0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:06.520
<v Speaker 1>like unorthodox.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh yeah, it's the best. I mean, he had a

0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:11.800
<v Speaker 10>sitar player on one of the gigs when we're playing

0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:14.240
<v Speaker 10>a jazz club, and I was fifteen at the time.

0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:16.399
<v Speaker 10>I was like, wow, you can do that.

0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 1>It just opened.

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<v Speaker 10>So because of people like him, I kind of lucked out.

0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:27.120
<v Speaker 10>I didn't get caught in the dogma that can kind

0:26:27.160 --> 0:26:27.760
<v Speaker 10>of grapple you.

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<v Speaker 1>Who were your uh your age peers at the time

0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:34.480
<v Speaker 1>that are notable now like who oh who is in

0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 1>your circle?

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<v Speaker 10>So at the camp we were both we started a

0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:41.480
<v Speaker 10>band together and that became the band that's still his

0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:44.920
<v Speaker 10>band now, same members eighty percent of the band trombone

0:26:44.960 --> 0:26:48.720
<v Speaker 10>shorty Okay. So Troy and I were like, he's a

0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:51.120
<v Speaker 10>little older, but we were basically came at the same time.

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:55.720
<v Speaker 10>Christian Scott he was also at the camp and also

0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:59.720
<v Speaker 10>we went to high school together. They're just It's a

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:04.040
<v Speaker 10>real interesting I think because we had the same teachers,

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:07.840
<v Speaker 10>but we all came out in different routes. It's a

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:10.600
<v Speaker 10>whole nother you know, each person doing their own thing.

0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:20.400
<v Speaker 1>How important is as far as uh New Orleans as

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:22.760
<v Speaker 1>a city, Well not how important is it, but how

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:28.040
<v Speaker 1>uh explain to us or our viewers or listeners. Sorry

0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:29.719
<v Speaker 1>you're not on TV right now.

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<v Speaker 7>I know.

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:35.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm so used to explain to our listeners the frequency

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<v Speaker 1>of of Well it's odd now to have music in nightclubs,

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:46.040
<v Speaker 1>and when you're in New Orleans, every block still has

0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:50.160
<v Speaker 1>bands in it. Oh yeah, we were moving to North

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:55.720
<v Speaker 1>We cop two houses in all get July two thousand

0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:59.240
<v Speaker 1>and five, July two thousand and five, and then Katrina

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 1>happened and then that was out the window. Like we

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:04.919
<v Speaker 1>were going to go down and record game theory wow

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:08.400
<v Speaker 1>in New Orleans, because the thing is New Orleans has

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:12.320
<v Speaker 1>they still They're the last city left with like three

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:20.480
<v Speaker 1>very distinctive jazz traditional jazz. Uh you know the zydog.

0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:24.840
<v Speaker 1>You have to explain zydogo music to me and how

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:28.520
<v Speaker 1>that separates and then bounce music. Oh you know. So

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 1>they we were like, okay, this is this is a

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:33.960
<v Speaker 1>city with three very distinctive styles to it, and we're

0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna move down there and figure our way into this

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 1>mess and then boom like it got ruined. But do

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:47.840
<v Speaker 1>you guys even mix with each other? Like, first of all,

0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 1>we're even allowed to listen to pop music as a kid?

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it wasn't frowned upon.

0:28:54.600 --> 0:29:00.200
<v Speaker 10>No, no. I was always listening to cash Money, right,

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:05.800
<v Speaker 10>I mean there was a point where when you're walking

0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 10>down the street, out of every car you will hearing

0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:13.320
<v Speaker 10>either cash Money or No Limit, like bumping.

0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:15.440
<v Speaker 7>That's the fourth that's the fourth element of New Orleans

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 7>that people forget about musically.

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Right, well, bounce music?

0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, is that really?

0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:20.720
<v Speaker 7>Is that bounce?

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:27.240
<v Speaker 10>It's in the same strain, the the the drake.

0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:34.880
<v Speaker 1>In my feelings, bet is New Orleans? Yeah, first of all,

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:39.360
<v Speaker 1>is cash money and no Limit? Is that sort of

0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:41.560
<v Speaker 1>like the are you the one side or the other?

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Is that like the Beatles and Rolling Stones.

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:46.560
<v Speaker 10>At the time At the time, not anymore, but at

0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 10>the time it was like, oh yeah, you got choose side.

0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 7>You choose what side, you know, and cash money was

0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:54.480
<v Speaker 7>a little younger, right, So yeah, I.

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:58.160
<v Speaker 10>Mean I always because I'm looking at it from a

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 10>musical perspective, I was wanted them to make something together.

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 10>I thought it would be crazy if they came together.

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 1>It never did.

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 10>I thought it it just would be so powerful because

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 10>it was just such an embodiment of music in the

0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 10>city up until that point. There's so much in the

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 10>sound that came from all of the different elements, even

0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 10>like the the zartacle and the second line tradition. You

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 10>could hear it in the rhythm of what they were doing.

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 1>So can you break down for us the difference between

0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 1>the various music styles in New Orleans as far as.

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:38.520
<v Speaker 10>Oh, yeah, yeah, So this is what we call the

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 10>second line, which comes basically from marching traditions. So you

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:45.680
<v Speaker 10>have like the marching band tradition, which was a big

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:49.000
<v Speaker 10>thing in early American culture, and then in New Orleans

0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 10>that tradition was changed because you had the influence of

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 10>the African rhythmic culture and Congo Square was doing slavery,

0:30:56.600 --> 0:31:01.400
<v Speaker 10>which on Sunday. All of the different front rhythms and

0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 10>traditions that they did in Africa they would carry on

0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 10>in New Orleans and that was the only place in

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 10>America where that was continued. So then that rhythmic culture

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 10>seeped its way into the marching tradition and that became

0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 10>second Line. So the base rhythm of second Line is

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:28.680
<v Speaker 10>the it's like a bamboola rhythm. And that rhythm you

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:31.960
<v Speaker 10>can hear it in zydaical music. You can hear it

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:35.600
<v Speaker 10>and you hearing Cash Money's music. Even if you think

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 10>of of mm hmmm mm hmmm, hmm mm hmmm mm

0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:49.680
<v Speaker 10>hmmmmm mm hm, you find I mean that rhythm I

0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 10>feel like is the thing that ties all of the

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 10>styles together.

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Wait now I'm thinking about it. What we what rockers

0:31:56.720 --> 0:32:05.160
<v Speaker 1>would traditionally called the Bodley rhythm. So that's basically, yes,

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 1>that's where the basis of that rhythm comes from.

0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 7>Louisiana.

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 10>No, but Bo Diddley that the the that's the same.

0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:22.760
<v Speaker 10>And and to me, when you start hearing that, that's

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:24.560
<v Speaker 10>how you can tell, Oh, that's kind of like a

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 10>New Orleans influenced music. But the things that change it

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 10>are the instrumentation and the different different ways that people

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 10>sing or like the instrumentation issarticle with the accordion versus

0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 10>like second line is with tuba and marching instrumentation. And

0:32:39.200 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 10>then you have bounced music, which is made actually you

0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:46.000
<v Speaker 10>could do it on NPC. So it's it's a range

0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:50.160
<v Speaker 10>of different songs that you can get but the same DNA.

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:51.720
<v Speaker 7>But what's the first line?

0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 10>The first line is the church. So second line is

0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:59.720
<v Speaker 10>basically in the funeral some people call jazz funeral. The

0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 10>first line of the family that goes into the church,

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:03.960
<v Speaker 10>and that's a slow, mournful song. And the the second

0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:06.320
<v Speaker 10>line is when you're coming out leave and you leave,

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:07.360
<v Speaker 10>and it's a celebration.

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 7>Thank you John, like the whole world.

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 1>Didn't ye straight up, I never knew why I was

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:19.000
<v Speaker 1>second line. I don't know. I didn't know that. I'm

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 1>telling you. I've seen a few, uh second line marches

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 1>for funerals. Yeah, and those are some extravagant productions, like

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 1>I've seen them. Damn. Are like hip it parade, throw

0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 1>the casket in the air or whatever. Yeah, like they'll

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 1>take the casket and start our listeners can see what

0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing.

0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, fist pumpings.

0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:48.240
<v Speaker 1>They will fist pump it up. You know, like when

0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:49.800
<v Speaker 1>you get married and you sit in the chair and

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 1>they toss you up in the air like a pizza. Yeah,

0:33:57.960 --> 0:33:59.880
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm talking about. Damn, Steve, you sleeping you.

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 1>You let me build the first time a minute. I'm

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:08.439
<v Speaker 1>letting them, let me get some juice space. I appreciate something.

0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:12.719
<v Speaker 7>No, I.

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:17.719
<v Speaker 1>Never knew how easy is it. I found out that

0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:23.880
<v Speaker 1>anybody can get a permit to have a parade in

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:24.880
<v Speaker 1>New Orleans.

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:29.080
<v Speaker 7>Like any launch for her wedding to anybody.

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I didn't know it was that easy. Oh yeah, yeah,

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's city.

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:35.680
<v Speaker 9>Hall and just you can hire a band for three

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:37.640
<v Speaker 9>hundred bucks. You ever heard Hannibal Bursus thing when he

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 9>went to New Orleans. He's like he bought a band

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 9>for three They followed him around all night. Really, yeah,

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:46.200
<v Speaker 9>So can I ask a real I'm saying.

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:48.719
<v Speaker 7>Real, I'm not leaving New Orleans question then, because I'm

0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:49.920
<v Speaker 7>just gonna ask him since we didn't know what the

0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:53.320
<v Speaker 7>line was, what is my gros really about?

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:56.880
<v Speaker 10>My goodness. So that that's a little more complex.

0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:59.759
<v Speaker 1>Not not getting drunk, I'm know.

0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:03.760
<v Speaker 7>Whe it's a historical component. Yeah, people in some traditional

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:06.320
<v Speaker 7>dress and you know and stuff. So I was always wondering.

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:11.279
<v Speaker 10>See the thing is Marti Grass goes into the Trinidad

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:16.040
<v Speaker 10>tradition and Brazilian traditions like an Afro Caribbean tradition and

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 10>people think it's just oh, we go to Bourbon Street

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:28.319
<v Speaker 10>and we just get drunk, and yeah, exactly, I'm sorry,

0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:31.800
<v Speaker 10>but no, no, it's it's it's a very beautiful tradition

0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:35.840
<v Speaker 10>that's about people coming together and family and and keeping

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:40.200
<v Speaker 10>traditions that have been centuries old alive. And that's just

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:45.400
<v Speaker 10>the party is something that has it's morphed into and

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:47.399
<v Speaker 10>you know, it's fine the party, but it's not only

0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:48.000
<v Speaker 10>just a party.

0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 7>It's nice to know where it comes from.

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:50.319
<v Speaker 10>That's yeah.

0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 12>So how much Caribbean influences in all the types of

0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:56.319
<v Speaker 12>music that you just.

0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Told us about.

0:35:57.760 --> 0:36:02.040
<v Speaker 10>Oh, it's like a like a line. You come from

0:36:02.120 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 10>West Africa, go through the Caribbean. New Orleans almost like

0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:08.239
<v Speaker 10>the northern tip of the Caribbean. To me, in my mind,

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:12.560
<v Speaker 10>I think of it as the same. So that rhythm

0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 10>and even even the stories that you hear about reggae

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:20.800
<v Speaker 10>and how they would be listening to New Orleans music

0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:24.319
<v Speaker 10>and it be a bootleg signal and they couldn't hear

0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:29.120
<v Speaker 10>all of the full uh rhythm and they took certain

0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:31.080
<v Speaker 10>parts of it thinking that that was the rhythm, and

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:33.560
<v Speaker 10>that influenced the reggae, and then it's kind of it's

0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:34.759
<v Speaker 10>like a feedback loop.

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Wow, I never saw. Yeah, that's amazing.

0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:43.800
<v Speaker 12>I mean, so New Orleans music influenced reggae, not the

0:36:43.880 --> 0:36:44.920
<v Speaker 12>other way around.

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 10>Or no, it's it influences each other because because the

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:52.800
<v Speaker 10>New Orleans music came from that line of the culture

0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:57.400
<v Speaker 10>moving across and basically sitting in New Orleans and Congo

0:36:57.480 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 10>Squad being the hub where it kind of was fermenting.

0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 10>And then you know, at the end of Flavor, when

0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 10>you kind of have this release, it's okay to have

0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:12.839
<v Speaker 10>people making their music and sharing it with the world.

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:15.919
<v Speaker 10>You get people like Louis Armstrong who come out, Buddy Bold,

0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 10>all these geniuses. It's like you let the lid off.

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of which I just recently discovered, our listeners owe

0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 1>it to themselves to discover the music of Lord Kitchener

0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 1>who he's he's he's king of sort of trinid Daddy.

0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:43.800
<v Speaker 1>He's part if any Lord Kitchener. I would say that

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:52.360
<v Speaker 1>maybe the origins of disco isn't the music because with

0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:57.759
<v Speaker 1>the sock symbol, like it's it's traditional Trinidaddy music, which

0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:04.640
<v Speaker 1>is more like so it's part New Orleans rhythm and

0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:09.600
<v Speaker 1>the sock symbol thing with it, but lyrically. And now

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:12.239
<v Speaker 1>his music's coming from the forties and fifties, So he's

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:18.880
<v Speaker 1>in the tradition of uh kind of uh, who's the

0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:23.920
<v Speaker 1>humorous forties jazz guy lou Louis. He's in the tradition

0:38:24.040 --> 0:38:28.040
<v Speaker 1>of Louis Jordan or almost like the beginning of what

0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Luke and Two Live Crew were about. Like his songs

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:37.560
<v Speaker 1>are quasi risk and wait can I can I play

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:42.640
<v Speaker 1>one song of Yes? Okay, it's this is Lord Kitchener's

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Kitchener maybe like Kitchener. Yeah, it's a mirror talking, so

0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:55.200
<v Speaker 1>possibly I could be saying, okay, wait, rural jury, Yes

0:38:55.920 --> 0:39:01.760
<v Speaker 1>there is another rural Yes, I have a questioned.

0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:04.279
<v Speaker 9>Yes, he's told you because in my head you're like

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:06.239
<v Speaker 9>Yoda and you're like ninety five years old, because you

0:39:06.280 --> 0:39:06.759
<v Speaker 9>have that vibe.

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:07.480
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think of that.

0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:10.040
<v Speaker 10>Old Oh no, thirty one?

0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:12.480
<v Speaker 7>No, what still really? See?

0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was a worthy question. He's an old

0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:15.479
<v Speaker 1>soul man, it's different.

0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:17.000
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you must have a It must be a lot

0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:19.319
<v Speaker 7>of ageism for you, because I know them jazz cats

0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:21.160
<v Speaker 7>be like, man, you don't know nothing.

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean so I would think, I mean, you

0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:31.040
<v Speaker 1>you speak wise so and you seem.

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:32.799
<v Speaker 7>To know you're the number is the number though, right,

0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:35.239
<v Speaker 7>Like sometimes they just like puts your thirty one now?

0:39:35.280 --> 0:39:38.000
<v Speaker 9>But could you know nothing but a number?

0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:41.040
<v Speaker 10>It ain't nothing, But I don't know number?

0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, you got two choices. My favorite is

0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 1>My Wife's ninety, in which a yeah, in which he

0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:58.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of invertently gets with her girlfriend who steals his

0:39:58.680 --> 0:40:03.960
<v Speaker 1>wife's clothes. Or Muriel in The Bug, which is story

0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:08.800
<v Speaker 1>about a bedbug that happens to make its home in

0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 1>the most unsavory place of this woman. Yeah, I feel

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:18.200
<v Speaker 1>like the choice has been made. Yes, I'm putting both

0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 1>of those in the quest of Mixed Supreme with this.

0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:21.800
<v Speaker 9>I love it when you intro to and give like

0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:23.000
<v Speaker 9>the lyrical.

0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Which one is this bedbugs?

0:40:31.080 --> 0:40:31.160
<v Speaker 9>Now?

0:40:31.160 --> 0:40:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I might have to do both because this is less

0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:38.080
<v Speaker 1>New Orleans tradition than the other song. But what screen?

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:43.960
<v Speaker 1>First of all, that was an amazing ryan. Secondly, where'd

0:40:44.000 --> 0:40:44.400
<v Speaker 1>you find this?

0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 7>Yeah? How old is this?

0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:48.560
<v Speaker 9>Who's like the person that hips you to this? That

0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:49.839
<v Speaker 9>says a lot about them?

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Like, uh oh, I was looking at

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Calypso because I knew there was more than Harry Belafontie.

0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:02.840
<v Speaker 1>So that figure history. The beautiful thing about streaming is

0:41:03.120 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 1>that's one of the best. He has a traditional Well

0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:11.799
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know if he had albums out with lyrics.

0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:15.360
<v Speaker 7>Or he just he got one coming out with Kenny Gamble.

0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:18.560
<v Speaker 10>Oh snap, really, it's been working on it, Kenny.

0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Going out anyway, I got play what's my wife's This

0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:33.480
<v Speaker 1>one is murial in the bedbug? No, what's the next one?

0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:36.320
<v Speaker 1>My wife's ninety? Oh yeah, because I might have to

0:41:36.480 --> 0:41:40.759
<v Speaker 1>charge you with loss in me. All right. He's known

0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:44.320
<v Speaker 1>as the King of calypso this is nice, but the

0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:51.760
<v Speaker 1>lyrics are funny. She came for one night with kitchen.

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:55.600
<v Speaker 1>She seems of a decent character. But when I woke

0:41:55.719 --> 0:41:59.040
<v Speaker 1>up in the morning, my wife, pretty ninety, was missing.

0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:00.760
<v Speaker 7>Come back with why.

0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Why this feels like a late night? I know, I know,

0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I know. So basically Kitch Kitsch's wife is away and

0:42:17.040 --> 0:42:19.160
<v Speaker 1>he's laying her girlfriend spend the night on the couch.

0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:19.840
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:24.480
<v Speaker 1>By the way, here's my wife's night clothes the house. Well,

0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:26.719
<v Speaker 1>he also sexes her down on the third and fourth

0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:34.200
<v Speaker 1>and fifth verse. I was like seven verses. Wow, I

0:42:34.360 --> 0:42:38.319
<v Speaker 1>am an immense fan of of of of kitchen. Well

0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:39.799
<v Speaker 1>that's yeah, Lord kitchen.

0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:43.520
<v Speaker 11>I'm wondering what the song negro by Injection is about.

0:42:43.719 --> 0:42:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Dog. It's exactly what you think. He goes there. I mean,

0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Jack's a lot of humor in politics. Yeah, yeah, that's sexy.

0:42:57.040 --> 0:43:03.920
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, a lot of you know, coming from uh Trinidad.

0:43:04.719 --> 0:43:07.520
<v Speaker 1>A lot of his music, the clips of music I

0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:11.320
<v Speaker 1>can hear sort of origins of New Orleans music and

0:43:12.400 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 1>in there and disco and other things like this was

0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:22.040
<v Speaker 1>in the fifties, so yeah, for listening get Boston. Uh yeah,

0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Lord around there right, no, right, in nineties.

0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:29.160
<v Speaker 7>Because all the ladies know they don't need to fear.

0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:31.160
<v Speaker 7>They really don't go past your knees. The bed bugs,

0:43:31.239 --> 0:43:36.000
<v Speaker 7>so I don't really really yeah yeah, record I had

0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:38.479
<v Speaker 7>bed bugs ones. It was awful. They go to your elbow,

0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:40.600
<v Speaker 7>to your knees, all the things.

0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:41.960
<v Speaker 9>Wow.

0:43:42.520 --> 0:43:45.000
<v Speaker 1>So your bad books weren't that clever to find that area?

0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Treasure treasure, treasure.

0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:52.959
<v Speaker 10>Wow, that was a great lyrical choice.

0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:54.120
<v Speaker 1>That was a great lyrical choice.

0:43:54.840 --> 0:43:57.840
<v Speaker 9>And lost and ninety are really rhyming today.

0:43:58.320 --> 0:44:00.640
<v Speaker 1>No, it's he's the best man it at that.

0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:02.120
<v Speaker 10>Lewis Jordan energy too.

0:44:03.080 --> 0:44:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Yes, absolutely, with the humor and all that stuff. You

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:14.160
<v Speaker 1>recorded your first album when you were seventeen, correct, yes, yes,

0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:18.920
<v Speaker 1>what did you know? How much information did you gather

0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:23.200
<v Speaker 1>in those five years that you learned traditional jazz to

0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:25.880
<v Speaker 1>make a record? Like did you know what you wanted?

0:44:26.000 --> 0:44:28.239
<v Speaker 1>And how did it come to be?

0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:31.800
<v Speaker 10>I had been playing at a club in New Orleans

0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:35.560
<v Speaker 10>called the Snug Harbor, which is like our jazz club.

0:44:35.640 --> 0:44:39.040
<v Speaker 10>It's like you had the balcony where you can look

0:44:39.120 --> 0:44:41.719
<v Speaker 10>down at the bandstand, and then you had the bottom level,

0:44:41.719 --> 0:44:44.799
<v Speaker 10>which is like forty people down there. And I've been

0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:47.640
<v Speaker 10>leading bands there from the time I was fifteen, and

0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:52.240
<v Speaker 10>I kind of figured out what I wanted in the sound,

0:44:52.320 --> 0:44:55.080
<v Speaker 10>and I was composing music and things like that. So

0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:57.680
<v Speaker 10>by the time I was seventeen, I wanted to document

0:44:57.800 --> 0:44:59.840
<v Speaker 10>the stuff I had figured out by playing at Snug

0:45:00.719 --> 0:45:05.440
<v Speaker 10>Okay and also just document the different musicians that I've

0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:09.879
<v Speaker 10>been playing with at that time. So that was really

0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:15.360
<v Speaker 10>for me, a documentation of something that I wanted to

0:45:15.480 --> 0:45:17.120
<v Speaker 10>look back on because I was about to move to

0:45:17.200 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 10>New York. I moved to New York when I was

0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:24.560
<v Speaker 10>seventeen in two thousand and four, and that's when the

0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:25.800
<v Speaker 10>record was finished.

0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:29.000
<v Speaker 7>You moved to New York when you was seventeen, Yes,

0:45:29.680 --> 0:45:33.560
<v Speaker 7>for Julia, yeah wow, and your parents never got to

0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:35.880
<v Speaker 7>do Man, what was that like for you today? Was

0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:37.080
<v Speaker 7>that the first time you've been to New York when

0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:37.640
<v Speaker 7>you were seventeen?

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:40.400
<v Speaker 10>Well, I was listening to Yeah, Well, I've been to

0:45:40.520 --> 0:45:45.879
<v Speaker 10>New York one time before. Then in two thousand and two,

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:51.280
<v Speaker 10>we played Summer Stage with Troy and I tromon short

0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:52.920
<v Speaker 10>and we played the Apollo.

0:45:54.400 --> 0:45:58.240
<v Speaker 7>You weren't seventeen, you was like fifteen fourteen, and when.

0:45:58.120 --> 0:46:01.520
<v Speaker 10>We did that, that was the something yep and and

0:46:01.640 --> 0:46:03.880
<v Speaker 10>we played Summer Stage and we played the Apollo, and

0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:05.279
<v Speaker 10>that was the first time I ever been in New York.

0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:07.879
<v Speaker 10>And then a couple of years after that, I moved

0:46:07.880 --> 0:46:11.760
<v Speaker 10>to New York. But I had been listening to Actually,

0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:15.359
<v Speaker 10>I've been listening to a lot of records that you made,

0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:18.239
<v Speaker 10>and that was one of the reasons I wanted to

0:46:18.280 --> 0:46:21.640
<v Speaker 10>go to New York because I was I went off

0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:22.200
<v Speaker 10>for sure.

0:46:22.960 --> 0:46:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I went to to say this lead.

0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:30.000
<v Speaker 10>I went to Berkeley the summer after I've been to

0:46:30.080 --> 0:46:33.839
<v Speaker 10>New York for it's like a summer that summer program yeah,

0:46:34.360 --> 0:46:35.640
<v Speaker 10>it's like a five week thing.

0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:37.440
<v Speaker 1>I got rejected.

0:46:40.239 --> 0:46:43.840
<v Speaker 9>Because Ellis Marsalis was on the community that.

0:46:46.239 --> 0:46:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I didn't make it to the summer program Juilliard. I

0:46:50.160 --> 0:46:51.640
<v Speaker 1>couldn't afford to go. What year did you go to

0:46:51.640 --> 0:46:55.919
<v Speaker 1>the summer program? That was three? Okay, I'm older than here. Yeah,

0:46:56.640 --> 0:46:59.480
<v Speaker 1>oh wow, that's cool. You went to you it's like

0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:03.279
<v Speaker 1>years before that. Yeah, oh you went there. Yeah. I

0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:05.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't go to Berkeley, but to that you actually had

0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:08.959
<v Speaker 1>a childhood and then a teenage and I also played music.

0:47:10.800 --> 0:47:14.920
<v Speaker 9>I like my science teacher. I like your science teacher.

0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:16.719
<v Speaker 9>Most of the time, I'm like your CPA. Now I'm

0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:21.799
<v Speaker 9>like your but I forgot Wait the joke John every

0:47:21.840 --> 0:47:24.800
<v Speaker 9>time he sees me if I comb my hair, he

0:47:24.920 --> 0:47:27.279
<v Speaker 9>never recognizes me. Listen, So like this is true on

0:47:27.400 --> 0:47:28.480
<v Speaker 9>three or four occasions.

0:47:28.680 --> 0:47:30.919
<v Speaker 5>This is wrong, you're doing it wrong.

0:47:31.000 --> 0:47:35.839
<v Speaker 1>But this is this is wrong. Listen every time. Listen.

0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:40.280
<v Speaker 1>He and I really meant when we worked on Hamilton. Okay,

0:47:40.960 --> 0:47:44.720
<v Speaker 1>so during the Hamilton mixing process and the recording process,

0:47:45.280 --> 0:47:48.520
<v Speaker 1>he had like long ass hippie hair. He was like, uh,

0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:52.680
<v Speaker 1>what's his name? With the latter the comedian not thinking

0:47:52.800 --> 0:47:55.680
<v Speaker 1>me the actor. We were he's supposed to do this show.

0:47:55.800 --> 0:47:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Seth rog why am I paying twenty five thousand dollars

0:47:58.239 --> 0:48:03.840
<v Speaker 1>pyramid right now? Seth brow his hair, He had a

0:48:03.840 --> 0:48:07.399
<v Speaker 1>Seth Brogan vibe about him. And then and then when

0:48:07.520 --> 0:48:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Hamilton was finally finished and we all took like the

0:48:10.239 --> 0:48:14.080
<v Speaker 1>master photo together, like my accountant came out. He had

0:48:14.120 --> 0:48:18.640
<v Speaker 1>this nice haircut and a suit and I shook his hand, O,

0:48:18.840 --> 0:48:20.560
<v Speaker 1>nice to meet you. A mirror and he looked at

0:48:20.600 --> 0:48:24.880
<v Speaker 1>me like, motherfuck it's me. So that's funny. But that

0:48:25.040 --> 0:48:28.600
<v Speaker 1>was like two and a half years ago. Months ago.

0:48:28.960 --> 0:48:32.200
<v Speaker 1>I was at six months ago. Six months.

0:48:33.040 --> 0:48:36.759
<v Speaker 9>I've been doing this for years, Like we've been to Minneapolis,

0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:41.640
<v Speaker 9>were all these places together he's been on. Yeah, So

0:48:41.840 --> 0:48:44.240
<v Speaker 9>six months ago at a wedding, I was wearing glasses

0:48:44.560 --> 0:48:47.120
<v Speaker 9>like that like makes me a whole different person. I

0:48:47.239 --> 0:48:49.359
<v Speaker 9>was wearing a suit and glass. I walked up to him.

0:48:49.520 --> 0:48:51.879
<v Speaker 9>I was like, yo, and he was like a mirror.

0:49:01.719 --> 0:49:02.040
<v Speaker 10>I like.

0:49:06.120 --> 0:49:07.800
<v Speaker 7>It actually made sense in the conversation.

0:49:16.200 --> 0:49:20.040
<v Speaker 1>She wasn't here for that show. I haven't been here

0:49:20.080 --> 0:49:20.760
<v Speaker 1>for six months.

0:49:20.960 --> 0:49:23.520
<v Speaker 7>A black woman or an Indian American woman, like.

0:49:26.920 --> 0:49:27.120
<v Speaker 10>You know.

0:49:29.239 --> 0:49:33.279
<v Speaker 1>Jamaica. His mom's black, not by By Black, but the

0:49:33.320 --> 0:49:37.120
<v Speaker 1>step brother was like black Black, Yeah you can write

0:49:37.360 --> 0:49:37.760
<v Speaker 1>some peace.

0:49:38.480 --> 0:49:45.000
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I gotta get something. Can I love cooking? A

0:49:45.080 --> 0:49:48.359
<v Speaker 10>few things you can make really red beans and rice,

0:49:48.680 --> 0:49:52.760
<v Speaker 10>yes with Don Dows, sauce without part, yeah something.

0:49:53.080 --> 0:49:55.959
<v Speaker 1>Are you going to the house right now? She's herself.

0:49:56.200 --> 0:49:58.279
<v Speaker 7>Can you pronounce that word again? Because nobody does that right.

0:49:58.360 --> 0:50:00.920
<v Speaker 10>I'm doy like you knew how to say that.

0:50:02.320 --> 0:50:09.239
<v Speaker 1>Sausage first line and sausage and yeah wait, I was

0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:13.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna say uh. And lo was my man that always

0:50:13.320 --> 0:50:15.080
<v Speaker 1>cooks outside of his gigs.

0:50:14.880 --> 0:50:18.400
<v Speaker 10>All Carmen Ruffings and the barbecue Swingers.

0:50:19.239 --> 0:50:20.200
<v Speaker 7>Where they do shows.

0:50:21.400 --> 0:50:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Kermit En he plays.

0:50:24.000 --> 0:50:27.320
<v Speaker 10>He did a thing at a club called Vaughn's and

0:50:27.600 --> 0:50:30.440
<v Speaker 10>he'd have every Monday night in the in the in

0:50:30.600 --> 0:50:33.600
<v Speaker 10>the gig a big old pot of red beans and

0:50:33.719 --> 0:50:36.920
<v Speaker 10>rice sitting there and you just go self served.

0:50:37.160 --> 0:50:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Dude. I love Kermit Ruffins music, but I really love

0:50:41.160 --> 0:50:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Kermit Ruffings cooking.

0:50:43.600 --> 0:50:44.280
<v Speaker 10>It's amazing.

0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:50.160
<v Speaker 1>It's yeah when like I he and he cooks out front, yeah,

0:50:51.200 --> 0:50:52.880
<v Speaker 1>like not even in the back where it's just like

0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:55.680
<v Speaker 1>for the musicians. He cooks the food in the front,

0:50:55.840 --> 0:50:58.120
<v Speaker 1>in the front. I'll be back sir, this pot while

0:50:58.120 --> 0:51:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I go play the solo real quick. My good fellas like,

0:51:03.520 --> 0:51:06.120
<v Speaker 1>I want to go yes week New Orleans.

0:51:06.280 --> 0:51:12.160
<v Speaker 10>Yes, yes, Kermit Roffins rebirth alone. So okay, why did

0:51:12.239 --> 0:51:15.680
<v Speaker 10>you choose Julliart? So I was I wanted to come

0:51:15.760 --> 0:51:18.480
<v Speaker 10>to New York. I went to Berkeley before, and I

0:51:18.520 --> 0:51:20.319
<v Speaker 10>had gotten the scholarship to go there, and I thought

0:51:20.320 --> 0:51:21.880
<v Speaker 10>I was gonna go. Okay, I got that out the way.

0:51:21.920 --> 0:51:23.879
<v Speaker 10>I got one more year high school. Then I figured

0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:26.040
<v Speaker 10>out what I want to do. I wasn't even sure

0:51:26.080 --> 0:51:27.759
<v Speaker 10>if I wanted to go to college, but I was like,

0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:31.160
<v Speaker 10>if I can get to New York. Because actually I

0:51:31.239 --> 0:51:33.640
<v Speaker 10>was listening to those records that you made, and I

0:51:33.719 --> 0:51:34.840
<v Speaker 10>was reading the line of notes.

0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:35.520
<v Speaker 1>What I used to do.

0:51:35.600 --> 0:51:42.120
<v Speaker 10>I used to go to Blockbuster Video. In Blockbuster they

0:51:42.200 --> 0:51:45.960
<v Speaker 10>had a used c D ben and I used to

0:51:46.080 --> 0:51:54.759
<v Speaker 10>get sorry sorry, I used to get all of the

0:51:54.920 --> 0:52:00.960
<v Speaker 10>U c ds and and listen to them down whatever

0:52:01.000 --> 0:52:03.160
<v Speaker 10>it was, just to get some different sounds happening.

0:52:04.200 --> 0:52:09.720
<v Speaker 7>Damn John tell him, wasn't that wasn't.

0:52:12.520 --> 0:52:15.160
<v Speaker 10>The ones the ones that I bought some of them.

0:52:15.200 --> 0:52:17.360
<v Speaker 10>I bought a Tower record, So actually.

0:52:17.920 --> 0:52:22.439
<v Speaker 1>No, it was a U c d MG Music Club.

0:52:22.440 --> 0:52:23.440
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't pay for that one, so.

0:52:24.920 --> 0:52:27.760
<v Speaker 9>Anyone else want to Yeah, mine came from my roommate

0:52:27.800 --> 0:52:30.160
<v Speaker 9>record I haven't.

0:52:30.920 --> 0:52:33.320
<v Speaker 1>I worked that game. Theory came outside and paid for

0:52:33.360 --> 0:52:33.560
<v Speaker 1>that one.

0:52:33.600 --> 0:52:39.160
<v Speaker 10>Either things fall apart. I bought, uh, like water for

0:52:39.320 --> 0:52:42.479
<v Speaker 10>chocolate is the one that I was. So I bought

0:52:42.600 --> 0:52:46.200
<v Speaker 10>Dangerous Michael Jackson and like water for chocolate at the

0:52:46.239 --> 0:52:46.799
<v Speaker 10>same time.

0:52:47.600 --> 0:52:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's random.

0:52:50.760 --> 0:52:52.960
<v Speaker 10>It was a range of stuff that was it was

0:52:53.040 --> 0:52:55.239
<v Speaker 10>happening to the bend. Is just it's the gift that

0:52:55.360 --> 0:52:56.080
<v Speaker 10>keeps on giving.

0:52:56.480 --> 0:53:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I see, well, most most people I know. I know

0:53:00.640 --> 0:53:06.000
<v Speaker 1>that Christian McBride chose Juilliard because Miles Davis went to Juilliard.

0:53:06.560 --> 0:53:10.399
<v Speaker 1>So usually like jazz cats that go to Juilliard, which

0:53:10.480 --> 0:53:13.360
<v Speaker 1>is it's not weird of itself because in education is

0:53:13.400 --> 0:53:16.120
<v Speaker 1>in education. But I do know that Miles Davis is

0:53:16.200 --> 0:53:20.320
<v Speaker 1>going to Juilliard is a big reason why most jazz

0:53:20.440 --> 0:53:23.719
<v Speaker 1>cats mess with Juilliard because otherwise they will all just

0:53:23.840 --> 0:53:26.359
<v Speaker 1>go to the New school. But a vibe, right, It's

0:53:26.400 --> 0:53:29.160
<v Speaker 1>like it's one of the music schools.

0:53:29.280 --> 0:53:32.480
<v Speaker 10>It's a classical, right, I mean, it comes from that tradition,

0:53:32.680 --> 0:53:39.920
<v Speaker 10>so it has that like Lincoln Senna like, yeah, you know, did.

0:53:39.840 --> 0:53:41.880
<v Speaker 1>You enjoy it? You got your masters from that, that

0:53:41.960 --> 0:53:43.359
<v Speaker 1>means you'd served six years there.

0:53:43.600 --> 0:53:49.240
<v Speaker 10>Yes, sir, I was doing stuff that I wasn't supposed

0:53:49.280 --> 0:53:53.640
<v Speaker 10>to do, which made me take time off in the middle.

0:53:54.200 --> 0:53:56.480
<v Speaker 10>But then I went back basically because my mom was like,

0:53:57.680 --> 0:54:01.280
<v Speaker 10>you have one year left at the time, finish the degree.

0:54:01.880 --> 0:54:04.279
<v Speaker 10>Just go and finish it. But I was doing all

0:54:04.440 --> 0:54:07.560
<v Speaker 10>types of touring, and basically I kind of developed my

0:54:07.719 --> 0:54:11.160
<v Speaker 10>work ethic by going to Julliard and then playing all night,

0:54:11.280 --> 0:54:14.359
<v Speaker 10>and then touring on the weekends, and then coming back

0:54:14.880 --> 0:54:17.120
<v Speaker 10>and then on the breaks doing all kinds of stuff,

0:54:17.200 --> 0:54:19.720
<v Speaker 10>putting it together. So it was a really great experience

0:54:19.800 --> 0:54:22.520
<v Speaker 10>to kind of figure out how to do a bunch

0:54:22.600 --> 0:54:24.320
<v Speaker 10>of stuff at the same time.

0:54:26.440 --> 0:54:30.320
<v Speaker 1>And pretty much you when did you finally get your degree?

0:54:31.080 --> 0:54:35.120
<v Speaker 10>It was twenty eleven, so I started in two thousand

0:54:35.120 --> 0:54:35.440
<v Speaker 10>and four.

0:54:37.440 --> 0:54:39.719
<v Speaker 7>So did you slide in some acting glasses while you

0:54:39.760 --> 0:54:40.040
<v Speaker 7>were there?

0:54:40.280 --> 0:54:40.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:54:41.320 --> 0:54:45.719
<v Speaker 10>I loved that school because there's so much that you

0:54:45.800 --> 0:54:51.120
<v Speaker 10>can do to kind of cross pollinate acting and dancing.

0:54:51.600 --> 0:54:54.480
<v Speaker 10>There's an orchestra, there's the drama division that you can

0:54:54.600 --> 0:54:57.239
<v Speaker 10>kind of put these all these different things together that

0:54:57.840 --> 0:55:00.840
<v Speaker 10>I was always interested in that. That's one of the

0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:06.680
<v Speaker 10>reasons that why I went. I read Miles autobiole truth right,

0:55:07.000 --> 0:55:10.759
<v Speaker 10>It's just something about Juilliard and also being in New

0:55:10.840 --> 0:55:12.960
<v Speaker 10>York and and checking out a lot of the people

0:55:13.040 --> 0:55:16.680
<v Speaker 10>who are online of knows that I liked the music,

0:55:16.840 --> 0:55:18.719
<v Speaker 10>lived in New York at the time, or played in

0:55:18.800 --> 0:55:21.959
<v Speaker 10>New York a lot. It just all seemed to make sense.

0:55:22.480 --> 0:55:26.120
<v Speaker 10>Just all Arrow's pointed, Well, go to Juilliard. If you

0:55:26.200 --> 0:55:29.759
<v Speaker 10>make it through school, that's great. If not, you'll be

0:55:29.840 --> 0:55:33.320
<v Speaker 10>in New York where everything that you like is happening.

0:55:33.640 --> 0:55:38.840
<v Speaker 1>So can I naturally assume that perhaps Juilliard's where you

0:55:39.040 --> 0:55:42.759
<v Speaker 1>met the other band members of Stay Human? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:55:42.760 --> 0:55:44.840
<v Speaker 1>I figured as much. So, Okay, how did you guys.

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<v Speaker 10>For well, the the drummer and bassist Joe Selle, Yeah, Cowboy, Yeah,

0:55:55.520 --> 0:55:58.040
<v Speaker 10>Joe with the hat. We we met in high school.

0:55:58.560 --> 0:56:02.000
<v Speaker 10>He was visiting, uh, he's visiting New Orleans at the

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<v Speaker 10>jazz Fest actually, and I was cutting my theory class,

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<v Speaker 10>I think it was, and I was walking around town

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<v Speaker 10>in the French Quarter because our school was in Noka,

0:56:14.760 --> 0:56:17.240
<v Speaker 10>was near the French Quarter, and he was walking around

0:56:17.320 --> 0:56:20.000
<v Speaker 10>and he had a stick bag, and he recognized me

0:56:20.840 --> 0:56:22.799
<v Speaker 10>and came up and said, hey, man, do you want

0:56:22.800 --> 0:56:24.200
<v Speaker 10>to play? And I was like, yeah, let's go.

0:56:24.440 --> 0:56:27.319
<v Speaker 1>So, hey, how you doing? How you doing? Let's play?

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<v Speaker 10>Almost no words. We walked and didn't really speak after that,

0:56:32.239 --> 0:56:34.160
<v Speaker 10>and we walked to my class that I was cutting

0:56:34.160 --> 0:56:36.040
<v Speaker 10>and I was like, hey, I have a guest, and

0:56:36.200 --> 0:56:40.400
<v Speaker 10>we played a song for the class. And then the

0:56:40.560 --> 0:56:43.360
<v Speaker 10>next year he moved to New York to go to

0:56:43.400 --> 0:56:45.440
<v Speaker 10>the Manhattan School of Music. I moved to go to Juilliard,

0:56:45.520 --> 0:56:46.960
<v Speaker 10>and that's when the band came together.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one experience that I regret really never having. I've

0:56:54.640 --> 0:56:56.439
<v Speaker 1>never been like a jammy guy.

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<v Speaker 10>You don't like the jam What do you mean called

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<v Speaker 10>the roots?

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<v Speaker 7>Damn?

0:57:05.600 --> 0:57:08.080
<v Speaker 1>You used to? I avoid them ships.

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<v Speaker 7>Now it's work, I got it.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's like it's it's expected, you know, because my

0:57:13.400 --> 0:57:14.480
<v Speaker 1>legacy's on jamming.

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<v Speaker 7>But I don't know, like you created albums off of that,

0:57:17.160 --> 0:57:18.120
<v Speaker 7>like phrenology.

0:57:19.000 --> 0:57:22.360
<v Speaker 1>It's just like, well for me, I don't like jam

0:57:22.480 --> 0:57:25.000
<v Speaker 1>sessions because someone has to be the.

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<v Speaker 7>Bad guy say it's time for you to go all right,

0:57:28.080 --> 0:57:29.600
<v Speaker 7>that's you or no you can't.

0:57:29.840 --> 0:57:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because there's again, I have two microphones, so I'm

0:57:33.000 --> 0:57:36.000
<v Speaker 1>the guy that's like, you know, trying to tell the

0:57:36.040 --> 0:57:40.160
<v Speaker 1>saxophone player, don't solo over Tarik, like play a riff,

0:57:40.840 --> 0:57:45.960
<v Speaker 1>play like it's it's it's it becomes like you think

0:57:46.040 --> 0:57:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm a pain in the ass here. Imagine me on

0:57:50.040 --> 0:57:51.720
<v Speaker 1>a job that I'm you.

0:57:51.760 --> 0:57:53.840
<v Speaker 7>Know, like sometimes we see you back then.

0:57:55.840 --> 0:57:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Exactly. So maybe it's like I have to be the

0:57:59.600 --> 0:58:01.640
<v Speaker 1>bad guy. But more than that, it's just like I

0:58:02.440 --> 0:58:04.680
<v Speaker 1>like Kirk does that easily. Like Kirk goes up to

0:58:04.760 --> 0:58:08.360
<v Speaker 1>the whoever the guest band is on the show and

0:58:08.520 --> 0:58:11.360
<v Speaker 1>they talk about their their guitars and is this a

0:58:12.360 --> 0:58:14.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, sixty three Stratt and da da da da,

0:58:14.640 --> 0:58:17.960
<v Speaker 1>and then they start doing you know, riffs together and

0:58:18.600 --> 0:58:20.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I never like and sometimes that happens,

0:58:20.920 --> 0:58:22.920
<v Speaker 1>like I feel, oh god, I feel horrible because Chris

0:58:23.000 --> 0:58:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Dave has been calling me like all week he's been

0:58:27.120 --> 0:58:31.040
<v Speaker 1>doing this presidency Robert Glaser. No, well, technically I was

0:58:31.080 --> 0:58:34.080
<v Speaker 1>out of town, so no disrespect Chris, of course, But

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<v Speaker 1>I just I don't know why I don't have musicians.

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<v Speaker 7>If you've ever jammed without being the boss, maybe that's

0:58:42.040 --> 0:58:42.600
<v Speaker 7>the problem.

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<v Speaker 10>Huh.

0:58:43.640 --> 0:58:44.680
<v Speaker 7>Let somebody else.

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<v Speaker 1>John, Like I think if it comes to like music collectors,

0:58:52.480 --> 0:58:56.240
<v Speaker 1>like record collectors, beeper, like that's my zone. But I've

0:58:56.360 --> 0:58:59.200
<v Speaker 1>never been the like I the thing is one I

0:58:59.440 --> 0:59:01.960
<v Speaker 1>don't I'm not one of those like do you know

0:59:02.080 --> 0:59:06.040
<v Speaker 1>like the oh this this Steinway was nineteen thirty nine,

0:59:06.560 --> 0:59:08.720
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know what my drums are, like yeah,

0:59:08.800 --> 0:59:13.080
<v Speaker 1>oh this is made of wood or mahogany wood or yeah,

0:59:14.520 --> 0:59:18.000
<v Speaker 1>yeah that's not me. I don't know how you're not

0:59:18.080 --> 0:59:21.200
<v Speaker 1>a gear head. No, I don't think it's either you

0:59:21.560 --> 0:59:23.919
<v Speaker 1>know what else. I'm really not a vinyl head, even

0:59:23.960 --> 0:59:26.280
<v Speaker 1>though I have all those records. Yes I'm not.

0:59:26.760 --> 0:59:29.280
<v Speaker 7>No, he means like the material, the vinyl, and then no, no,

0:59:29.560 --> 0:59:30.920
<v Speaker 7>I just meant like, you know.

0:59:31.200 --> 0:59:36.520
<v Speaker 1>You're not like Steve. Yeah, like Steves everyone thinks like

0:59:37.240 --> 0:59:38.040
<v Speaker 1>it sounds better.

0:59:38.760 --> 0:59:43.200
<v Speaker 7>Oh oh you're not one of those. Good for you,

0:59:43.280 --> 0:59:46.040
<v Speaker 7>Amir for coming out, because you know people will be scared.

0:59:45.800 --> 0:59:49.160
<v Speaker 1>To say that I love vinyl because that's the thing

0:59:49.240 --> 0:59:51.760
<v Speaker 1>that me and my dad bonded on as when I

0:59:51.840 --> 0:59:53.280
<v Speaker 1>was a kid, like going to the rest of us.

0:59:53.680 --> 0:59:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I like record shopping, but I was never like I

0:59:57.000 --> 1:00:01.720
<v Speaker 1>don't know which turn people around October November, like, do

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<v Speaker 1>you recommend Christmas? Yeah? Can you recommend what turntable I

1:00:04.720 --> 1:00:11.280
<v Speaker 1>should get? And I'm like an iPhone? So you guys

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<v Speaker 1>just basically within five minutes you were like, hey you

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<v Speaker 1>played did you do that earlier in the day, earlier

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<v Speaker 1>in your life? Like you like the roots were more now, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>I start. My dad threw me into his oldies act,

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<v Speaker 1>like Tariq was the first person of my age that

1:00:30.920 --> 1:00:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I played with it even then, like my parents looked

1:00:32.880 --> 1:00:35.280
<v Speaker 1>at you know, he was you not you. Mom. Mom

1:00:35.360 --> 1:00:36.800
<v Speaker 1>listens to the show and gets mad that I was

1:00:36.800 --> 1:00:42.120
<v Speaker 1>throwing under the bus. Mom loved Tariq, Dad not so much.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I love it. It's just you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>wish I could.

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<v Speaker 7>Enjoy it. I don't know, Yeah, I guess I don't

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<v Speaker 7>that press.

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<v Speaker 11>But you say it's on like not having a roadmap, right,

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<v Speaker 11>because we kind of went over this with Bobby McFerrin.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, I love having roadmaps. Oh yeah, I just.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm McFerrin with the juliar John No, he's everything.

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<v Speaker 9>But would you say that when when the music becomes

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<v Speaker 9>a profession, the jamming aspect of it all to like

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<v Speaker 9>hang out and jam with friends thing kind of comes down.

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<v Speaker 9>I feel like that, like, yeah, I'm in music all

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<v Speaker 9>day long. I like going and like playing for the

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<v Speaker 9>sake of playing. Is a little different now than it

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<v Speaker 9>was when I was twenty two.

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<v Speaker 10>I feel like when you're younger and you're jamming is

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<v Speaker 10>almost like practice, whereas at this point I feel like

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<v Speaker 10>we have to have an objective exactly like roadmap or

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<v Speaker 10>just a concept like we're jamming in order to figure

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<v Speaker 10>out the purpose. Yeah this is the sound because I feel.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, but tell that to Prince who, yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>six hours you know, fuck the show, He'll give you

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<v Speaker 1>six hour jam session, which is probably my only inspiration

1:02:02.120 --> 1:02:06.600
<v Speaker 1>from he do it all right, I'll come that was

1:02:06.680 --> 1:02:08.680
<v Speaker 1>for a reason they weren't doing that for the show,

1:02:08.760 --> 1:02:10.400
<v Speaker 1>like figuring out the parts of the show and stuff

1:02:10.440 --> 1:02:14.000
<v Speaker 1>like that. At least that's what Prince like really enjoys jam.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't like talking to people, So you've rare the

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<v Speaker 1>jam with Wow. I mean I don't like jamming or

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<v Speaker 1>talking to people.

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<v Speaker 10>It ben's on the people, right, because some people don't

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<v Speaker 10>know how to jam.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you what if you're in a situation and

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<v Speaker 1>again you are you present a situation which people can

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<v Speaker 1>randomly walk up and play you do you have to

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<v Speaker 1>be the bad cops sometimes and like like no more

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<v Speaker 1>cow bell, thank you.

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<v Speaker 10>Sometimes there's been times where it just crosses the line

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<v Speaker 10>and then you have to you have to shut it down.

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<v Speaker 10>But I feel like a thing that I find joy

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<v Speaker 10>and is taking something that's just like would otherwise be

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<v Speaker 10>disastrous and making music out of it. Like, oh snap,

1:03:05.240 --> 1:03:09.680
<v Speaker 10>this person is playing the piano. They're not trained. Well,

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<v Speaker 10>let's make this into something.

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<v Speaker 1>See that's what Bob mcpherrn said when I asked him

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<v Speaker 1>about Heckler's He's like, the way that I extinguish it

1:03:20.200 --> 1:03:24.720
<v Speaker 1>is just incorporating whatever they're doing. Yeah, ah see, I

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<v Speaker 1>hate that. I'm a control freeing Oh wow, that's happening

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Okay, let's see what we can do with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Are these with random drunk audience people are like musicians.

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<v Speaker 1>You might ass random drunk musicians or.

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<v Speaker 10>Super free arrange it's arranged. It can be anything, because

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<v Speaker 10>sometimes it can be you can you can have a

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<v Speaker 10>great musician who is is technically there but doesn't understand

1:03:56.680 --> 1:04:00.280
<v Speaker 10>the spirit of the moment or what's happening. Okay, and

1:04:00.400 --> 1:04:03.600
<v Speaker 10>then that can change what's happening, and you have to

1:04:03.680 --> 1:04:07.320
<v Speaker 10>go with that. Otherwise the band, the sounds this disconnected.

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<v Speaker 1>So describe to me the day that you got the

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<v Speaker 1>phone call that you're being considered for the night show.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh yeah, late Night with.

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<v Speaker 7>Late Night.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Steven, I love you man all right? So

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<v Speaker 1>where were you? What was the day when you got

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<v Speaker 1>the phone call for the Late Show with Stephen cober So.

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<v Speaker 10>I was in the studio and I got a phone

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<v Speaker 10>call from Stephen himself saying, I'm about to go on

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<v Speaker 10>vacation for ten days and when I come back, I

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<v Speaker 10>want to sit and have a conversation with you. And

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<v Speaker 10>he didn't tell me what it was about, but I

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<v Speaker 10>kind of figured what it was about.

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<v Speaker 7>Y'all knew each other already at this point.

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<v Speaker 10>I'd been on the Colbert Report a couple of times,

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<v Speaker 10>and after the second time we kind of had become

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<v Speaker 10>friends in a way where we could talk and I

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<v Speaker 10>call him sometime.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was not.

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<v Speaker 10>He wasn't at any way at the Colbert Reports offering

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<v Speaker 10>me the job. But I've been seeing in the news

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<v Speaker 10>everything was leading to him taking over for Letterman, and

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<v Speaker 10>I didn't hear there was a band yet. I figured, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 10>if there's a band, we may have heard about it,

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<v Speaker 10>or at least it's not solidified because they haven't announced it.

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<v Speaker 10>So when he called me, I figured, okay, he wants

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<v Speaker 10>to talk about that. So he goes off the grid

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<v Speaker 10>for about ten days, no phone or anything, and I

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<v Speaker 10>have thinking about it for ten days. Is this something

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<v Speaker 10>that I think he called me because he knew, okay,

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<v Speaker 10>think about this because when we come back, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 10>probably have to make a decision quickly, which is what happened.

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<v Speaker 10>We sat down and he talked to me about his

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<v Speaker 10>vision for the show, and that was like a a

1:06:00.840 --> 1:06:04.040
<v Speaker 10>pretty long conversation. Then I was introduced to the staff,

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<v Speaker 10>which was gonna move from the Cobet Report to the

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<v Speaker 10>late show, and I was, you know, walked around the

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<v Speaker 10>office and met everybody, and then after about two or

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<v Speaker 10>three hours, he's like, okay, so let me know something

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<v Speaker 10>you want to do and we'll call you in a

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<v Speaker 10>few next few days to you know, see where.

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<v Speaker 1>You're at with it. Who else was in the running?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know? Well?

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<v Speaker 10>He told me after this is like after we had

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<v Speaker 10>done a few shows, a few test shows, came to

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<v Speaker 10>the dressing room, and he says, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 10>you knew this, but Alvis Costello was, Steve would have left.

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<v Speaker 10>He's like, Alvis Costello was basically I'd given him the gig.

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<v Speaker 10>But this is before I met you. Wait, Steve, did

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<v Speaker 10>you know this?

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to go work for them. I knew it.

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<v Speaker 1>Steve reduced some Elvis records. Yeah, seriously, No, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I didn't. I don't think.

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<v Speaker 7>If you had to make the decision, Steve, yes.

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<v Speaker 12>Oh that would be Yeah, that would be a tough decision.

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<v Speaker 1>I would let Steve do it. I'm just kidding.

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<v Speaker 10>Thank god, John, Wow, you would have had to split.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I would understand, I would, yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh man, I'm sorry here.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was he was up there.

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<v Speaker 10>Like yeah, yeah, but with his band or I'm not sure,

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<v Speaker 10>but apparently he flinched and Colbert had it in the

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<v Speaker 10>back of his mind. After we ad met and that

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<v Speaker 10>Colbert port Love Right performance, he was like, I'd be

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<v Speaker 10>cool to spend some time on stage with this guy.

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<v Speaker 10>He wasn't aware of it before then, but then.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was about to say, did he go to

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<v Speaker 1>any of the No.

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<v Speaker 10>No, he's actually one of his producers went to one

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<v Speaker 10>of those and what y'all doing we.

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<v Speaker 1>Were talking about at the beginning, Yeah, right, But this

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<v Speaker 1>also proves the point that there's Ronald McDonald's and then

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<v Speaker 1>there's Ray Crocs. And for every figurehead that you think, like,

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<v Speaker 1>did Steve Gobert go to these shows, it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>because it only matters to the five people the Ray Crocs,

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<v Speaker 1>the five people there in Steven's ear about this is cool.

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<v Speaker 1>You should check it out right. It's never the person

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<v Speaker 1>that the Kanye is that I have. The idea is

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<v Speaker 1>it's the fifty people and Kanye's ear that he takes

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<v Speaker 1>them from anyway, So go ahead.

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<v Speaker 10>So that that that was when we've done some test shows,

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<v Speaker 10>he said, you know, and and Elvis he flinched. He said,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, I don't know if I want to have

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<v Speaker 10>a boss. And then Stephen says, okay, well that's okay,

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<v Speaker 10>hangs up, the phone, calls me and it's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 10>do you do you want to have this conversation. Come

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<v Speaker 10>back in ten days. We have the conversation. He calls me.

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<v Speaker 1>The next day.

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<v Speaker 10>After we have this conversation, I meet the staff and

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<v Speaker 10>he says, you know, I want to you officially have

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<v Speaker 10>been named the band leader of the Late Show. Congratulations,

1:09:22.920 --> 1:09:27.200
<v Speaker 10>we start on this date, and you should start rehearsing

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<v Speaker 10>your band.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you human yet?

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<v Speaker 10>So? Stay Human was basically for months and not only

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<v Speaker 10>Stay he was a wild thing in the air where

1:09:37.800 --> 1:09:40.960
<v Speaker 10>people were coming to me and telling me that I

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<v Speaker 10>should call Steven, telling me you should be the band.

1:09:45.080 --> 1:09:47.320
<v Speaker 10>The band was like, man, we had just finished like

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<v Speaker 10>a nine month tour and they were like, we didn't

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<v Speaker 10>have anything on the books. And the band was like, man,

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<v Speaker 10>you should call Steven. You cool with Steven, right, you

1:09:56.800 --> 1:09:59.040
<v Speaker 10>should call Steven. You should get that gig. Man, that

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<v Speaker 10>would be great. We should lay that get He's so cool,

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<v Speaker 10>it'd be so great. And I was just like, I

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<v Speaker 10>don't know. I just don't know if that's something that

1:10:08.240 --> 1:10:11.080
<v Speaker 10>I want to do. We just finished my first real

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<v Speaker 10>tour and like we have some momentum. I feel like

1:10:14.520 --> 1:10:16.800
<v Speaker 10>we could we have signed a label deal yet with

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<v Speaker 10>just like all this stuff that and all this stuff was, yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I hadn't signed a label deal.

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<v Speaker 10>No, I'm just putting out independent, just put it on

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<v Speaker 10>the internet, no marketing know anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you think?

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<v Speaker 7>Let me just ask one question to the both of y'all,

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<v Speaker 7>what's the difference you signed on to the the to

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<v Speaker 7>Jimmy when how about how long have you been with him?

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<v Speaker 1>We agreed in April of two thousand and eight. That's

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<v Speaker 1>ten years, and it took about yeah, it took about

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<v Speaker 1>seven months to really make it real.

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<v Speaker 10>Steve, that's like three four three years. It's the fourth year.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 7>Did you ever think to maybe make a call, because

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<v Speaker 7>I'm okay you made a call.

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<v Speaker 10>In fact, I reached out, but we met before we

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<v Speaker 10>could even connect on the phone. The first night of

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<v Speaker 10>the show, Alex Soros had a birthday party, and you

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<v Speaker 10>basically laid the He laid the whole science of the

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<v Speaker 10>gig down at at this part at the Boom Boom Room.

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<v Speaker 10>It was the second time that I talked to Abandon.

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<v Speaker 10>The first person I talked to was was Schaeffer. Chevy

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<v Speaker 10>Chase introduced me to Schaeffer and.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, you.

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<v Speaker 10>I wasn't cool with Chevy really, but I had dinner

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<v Speaker 10>with him a couple of times from a mutual friend

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<v Speaker 10>and he was like, you should, and he plays piano,

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<v Speaker 10>so we bonded over the piano.

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<v Speaker 1>For a minute before they got the deal.

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<v Speaker 13>Chevy Chase, Chevy Chase plays piano. This is why you're

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<v Speaker 13>here because I never knew that Bill Evans this is

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<v Speaker 13>his idol. Wow, wait Chevy Chase comedy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay, So did he introduced you to Paul?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah? Because I didn't know Paul, but obviously I wanted

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<v Speaker 10>to talk to him when this was kind of in

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<v Speaker 10>the running, and I went We went to p J.

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<v Speaker 10>Clarks up in Lincoln Center and and he and he

1:12:24.880 --> 1:12:29.360
<v Speaker 10>told me his experience. And then Mira we we met

1:12:29.439 --> 1:12:32.040
<v Speaker 10>on the first night of the show at Sorols and

1:12:32.120 --> 1:12:34.600
<v Speaker 10>he told us about how y'all do all of the

1:12:34.640 --> 1:12:37.080
<v Speaker 10>stuff with the talk back mike and the leftop, and

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, I kind of just I sought everybody out.

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<v Speaker 10>I called Branford and we linked up when he was

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<v Speaker 10>in town doing It's like a Bill Witherston at Carnegie.

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<v Speaker 10>It was all like, right around the beginning of the season, Well,

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<v Speaker 10>I'm having a.

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<v Speaker 7>Brain fart, who's post Bradford from Philly And I.

1:12:56.000 --> 1:13:01.800
<v Speaker 10>Went to see Kevin played with Dave Holland at the Vanguard, which, oh,

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<v Speaker 10>we're playing the Vanguard next week, shout out. But uh

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<v Speaker 10>so the Vanguard with Dave Holland.

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<v Speaker 1>State human Uh yeah, hell yeah, I'm coming. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>might be sold.

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<v Speaker 10>Out nor Riscal way back.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, ye, she was with us first anywhere. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to the winner circle.

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<v Speaker 7>That's not true. You're a winner.

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<v Speaker 1>I was playing. Go ahead, Elvis, just send me an email.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta okay. So you're basically saying that you went

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<v Speaker 1>and sought out. Wow, you did it in ways that

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even think of. I think maybe I talked

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<v Speaker 1>to Branford for like one second. Hit up.

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<v Speaker 7>Do you know he's still around?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah? Doctors?

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<v Speaker 1>Well he played with us, but I didn't. The thing was,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like we literally we weren't going to take it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just doing those eight months from April to

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<v Speaker 1>to what September? I just figured, Okay, I know we're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to take this gig because the money was

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<v Speaker 1>getting good.

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<v Speaker 7>Leave it alone. It's just numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>What your math?

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<v Speaker 11>It's you said eight months April to September, that's like

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<v Speaker 11>five Oh are you nerd.

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<v Speaker 1>Any words? I mean I said September, but I guess

1:14:45.320 --> 1:14:48.320
<v Speaker 1>we told him it's real maybe in November. So I'm

1:14:48.400 --> 1:14:52.760
<v Speaker 1>just saying that. In my mind, I thought, Okay, you're

1:14:52.800 --> 1:14:54.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna say no, but at least you're gonna have a

1:14:54.920 --> 1:14:57.400
<v Speaker 1>friend in late night so that when the Roots released records,

1:14:57.720 --> 1:15:00.400
<v Speaker 1>you could be the musical guess. And that's all we

1:15:00.520 --> 1:15:02.639
<v Speaker 1>wanted because we were making good money at that point,

1:15:03.400 --> 1:15:09.040
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I I guess he kind of didn't

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<v Speaker 1>take no for an answer, But in my mind, I

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<v Speaker 1>just thought by that point a lot of acts that

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<v Speaker 1>we were opening for back in ninety four ninety five,

1:15:20.760 --> 1:15:24.400
<v Speaker 1>like we're now they're now opening for us, like and

1:15:24.600 --> 1:15:28.000
<v Speaker 1>no disrespect, I you know, I love but it I

1:15:28.040 --> 1:15:31.679
<v Speaker 1>would hate when our management would let run DMC open

1:15:31.760 --> 1:15:34.960
<v Speaker 1>for us, and I'm like, they're fucking run DMC like

1:15:35.040 --> 1:15:37.320
<v Speaker 1>they need the headline, And even run DMC was like, nah, dog,

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<v Speaker 1>we just do this hour, get our money be out,

1:15:40.400 --> 1:15:43.880
<v Speaker 1>and you know, like they didn't care about like whatever

1:15:44.320 --> 1:15:46.960
<v Speaker 1>romantic things I had in my head of us being legends.

1:15:47.000 --> 1:15:48.960
<v Speaker 1>They just like give us the money stuff.

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<v Speaker 7>Not for nothing, y'all, but like, for real, have you

1:15:51.000 --> 1:15:52.960
<v Speaker 7>y'all too soaked up this moment where we just we

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<v Speaker 7>just mentioned all these past band leaders and this is great,

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<v Speaker 7>but this is the first time like the two brothers

1:15:57.439 --> 1:16:00.640
<v Speaker 7>have really been helming the the band leader thing on

1:16:00.640 --> 1:16:03.920
<v Speaker 7>the late night like the same time at the same time,

1:16:03.960 --> 1:16:05.960
<v Speaker 7>at the same time, at the same time on the

1:16:06.280 --> 1:16:08.599
<v Speaker 7>two competing shows, not on the late L L Late

1:16:08.880 --> 1:16:14.760
<v Speaker 7>and the Late Ya want to say, well, let.

1:16:14.720 --> 1:16:17.679
<v Speaker 1>Me finish my point. My point was. My point was basically,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had Bill in mine when I did this,

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<v Speaker 1>let me finish my point. My point was pretty much that, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I didn't want to be in that run

1:16:32.320 --> 1:16:34.439
<v Speaker 1>dem see position. I just thought, like, Okay, it's two

1:16:34.439 --> 1:16:36.960
<v Speaker 1>thousand and eight, man, what if we're not a thing

1:16:37.040 --> 1:16:42.080
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and fifteen, we'll be running We'll be

1:16:42.200 --> 1:16:47.000
<v Speaker 1>run DMC opening for Drake or like like we could

1:16:47.040 --> 1:16:50.120
<v Speaker 1>ever do that anyway. I'm just saying that that was

1:16:50.200 --> 1:16:52.439
<v Speaker 1>part of my Okay, let's let's just go here and

1:16:53.200 --> 1:16:56.000
<v Speaker 1>get safe and we'll just go somewhere quietly to die.

1:16:57.640 --> 1:17:01.720
<v Speaker 1>And that's what I thought. Well, I never I never

1:17:01.960 --> 1:17:05.920
<v Speaker 1>once thought that it would be beneficial. So in your head,

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<v Speaker 1>after you got all this information, what were the pros

1:17:10.600 --> 1:17:11.639
<v Speaker 1>and what were the cons?

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<v Speaker 10>Honestly, I was I was looking forward to touring more.

1:17:19.080 --> 1:17:23.920
<v Speaker 10>But I really Steven actually kind of really convinced me

1:17:24.200 --> 1:17:27.559
<v Speaker 10>because not by what he said. I just really liked

1:17:27.640 --> 1:17:30.679
<v Speaker 10>him because I wasn't familiar with the Cobert Report before

1:17:30.760 --> 1:17:33.360
<v Speaker 10>I was on the show, so I didn't know anything

1:17:33.439 --> 1:17:38.599
<v Speaker 10>about him or his whole ethos, of the whole kind

1:17:38.640 --> 1:17:41.000
<v Speaker 10>of sat tire that he came from in that tradition.

1:17:42.520 --> 1:17:44.280
<v Speaker 10>But when I met him and talked to him, we

1:17:44.479 --> 1:17:46.080
<v Speaker 10>just had a lot of things that I felt like

1:17:46.200 --> 1:17:48.640
<v Speaker 10>were in common and his objectives for the show, what

1:17:48.800 --> 1:17:51.360
<v Speaker 10>he wanted to do in the world in general, with

1:17:51.760 --> 1:17:54.559
<v Speaker 10>everything that he had been doing. I was really compelled

1:17:54.640 --> 1:17:57.599
<v Speaker 10>to do it because of that, and I also thought, well,

1:17:58.200 --> 1:18:02.560
<v Speaker 10>at the time, I was only six, so I was like,

1:18:03.200 --> 1:18:04.200
<v Speaker 10>why do you laugh every time?

1:18:05.160 --> 1:18:07.080
<v Speaker 7>Because that's just amazing. It's like, what do you do

1:18:07.200 --> 1:18:07.680
<v Speaker 7>after this?

1:18:08.000 --> 1:18:09.519
<v Speaker 1>I remember where I was at twenty six, and it

1:18:09.600 --> 1:18:10.800
<v Speaker 1>definitely was not on late night.

1:18:10.720 --> 1:18:14.559
<v Speaker 7>Television paying leadal like He' not just playing I'm.

1:18:14.479 --> 1:18:21.000
<v Speaker 10>Just I just an appointment, right, It was?

1:18:21.240 --> 1:18:22.000
<v Speaker 7>It was, It was.

1:18:22.400 --> 1:18:28.800
<v Speaker 10>It was such a a great vision that he showed us,

1:18:28.840 --> 1:18:31.800
<v Speaker 10>and I mean, you know this is before Trump, but

1:18:32.640 --> 1:18:34.519
<v Speaker 10>it was just the idea that was, let's make a

1:18:34.640 --> 1:18:36.200
<v Speaker 10>show about people.

1:18:38.040 --> 1:18:40.560
<v Speaker 12>So did you draw any parallels between his concept for

1:18:40.640 --> 1:18:42.679
<v Speaker 12>a show and what you've been doing the music?

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<v Speaker 10>Absolutely, I mean there's something we talked about in the

1:18:46.560 --> 1:18:52.840
<v Speaker 10>first initial conversation about the show, calling the show the

1:18:53.040 --> 1:18:56.800
<v Speaker 10>joy machine, I guess a machine that you get into

1:18:57.760 --> 1:19:01.720
<v Speaker 10>and you basically create joy and you pump it out

1:19:01.880 --> 1:19:02.720
<v Speaker 10>through the airwaves.

1:19:03.600 --> 1:19:04.880
<v Speaker 1>My word is a joy machine.

1:19:05.000 --> 1:19:07.160
<v Speaker 7>That's my word. I tell people all the time. Joy

1:19:07.240 --> 1:19:10.040
<v Speaker 7>is the ultimate level. Like happiness is cool, joy is man,

1:19:11.040 --> 1:19:14.320
<v Speaker 7>Wait one, how did you how did you do not

1:19:14.520 --> 1:19:14.760
<v Speaker 7>know this?

1:19:15.280 --> 1:19:17.880
<v Speaker 1>And Steve, how did you know this? I was just

1:19:17.920 --> 1:19:19.120
<v Speaker 1>trying to insult her. I didn't know.

1:19:21.240 --> 1:19:21.280
<v Speaker 12>It.

1:19:21.720 --> 1:19:23.280
<v Speaker 7>Real thing, like me and my dad, we have a

1:19:23.320 --> 1:19:26.759
<v Speaker 7>whole thing about joy And how really that didn't just happened.

1:19:28.200 --> 1:19:30.720
<v Speaker 7>Happiness is fleeting, but joy is forever. Even when you're mad,

1:19:31.000 --> 1:19:32.720
<v Speaker 7>it's still with this sense of this joy is.

1:19:32.760 --> 1:19:35.479
<v Speaker 1>Just you're trying to be a dick. You're backfired on.

1:19:36.120 --> 1:19:37.440
<v Speaker 9>That's actually actually.

1:19:39.200 --> 1:19:41.160
<v Speaker 1>That was an introverted all.

1:19:41.560 --> 1:19:43.640
<v Speaker 7>Wow, I would love to be that person. Se like

1:19:43.720 --> 1:19:45.639
<v Speaker 7>to bring joys work.

1:19:46.080 --> 1:19:49.439
<v Speaker 1>That's so good, that's so okay. I'm curious to know.

1:19:50.439 --> 1:19:54.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm curious to know what your daily schedule is now,

1:19:55.000 --> 1:19:56.559
<v Speaker 1>and I want to know if it's similar to mine.

1:19:56.920 --> 1:19:59.240
<v Speaker 1>First of all, how often do you guys have to

1:19:59.439 --> 1:19:59.840
<v Speaker 1>do you guys?

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<v Speaker 10>Ever?

1:20:00.320 --> 1:20:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Back up? Guests that come on the show.

1:20:02.360 --> 1:20:07.240
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, yeah, we back up guests sometimes fragmented parts of

1:20:07.320 --> 1:20:10.960
<v Speaker 10>the band back up. I guess like the last thing

1:20:11.080 --> 1:20:16.080
<v Speaker 10>we did I played not with the band with Nas

1:20:16.960 --> 1:20:20.559
<v Speaker 10>mac Miller when he man, yeah.

1:20:22.760 --> 1:20:25.040
<v Speaker 14>Wow, last performance on TV.

1:20:25.320 --> 1:20:29.320
<v Speaker 1>Damn yeah yeah wow yeah man.

1:20:29.640 --> 1:20:33.160
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, we we we do it a fair amount. In

1:20:33.280 --> 1:20:37.080
<v Speaker 10>season one we did it a lot, okay, but and

1:20:37.160 --> 1:20:39.040
<v Speaker 10>we also did a lot of sittings, and then after

1:20:39.760 --> 1:20:42.080
<v Speaker 10>about a year and a half we kind of scaled

1:20:42.160 --> 1:20:43.880
<v Speaker 10>back on that and now we're just.

1:20:45.360 --> 1:20:59.120
<v Speaker 1>It's hard. I'll start first, well, okay, the thing is,

1:21:00.280 --> 1:21:04.720
<v Speaker 1>it's because I always want my fantasy's like, YO want

1:21:04.760 --> 1:21:07.439
<v Speaker 1>my idols to sit in with me. And the thing

1:21:07.640 --> 1:21:12.840
<v Speaker 1>is is like my idolds are I'm being generous if

1:21:12.880 --> 1:21:16.679
<v Speaker 1>I say sixty, they're more like sixty five, seventy seventy

1:21:16.720 --> 1:21:21.120
<v Speaker 1>five and years old and setting their ways. And the

1:21:21.200 --> 1:21:23.760
<v Speaker 1>thing is to be the position that we're in right now.

1:21:24.240 --> 1:21:27.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh trust me, we're birds of effects. I believe that

1:21:28.200 --> 1:21:29.760
<v Speaker 1>to be in the position that we're in right now

1:21:30.160 --> 1:21:33.120
<v Speaker 1>is a bunch of fast thinking thinking, fast thinking fast

1:21:33.560 --> 1:21:37.320
<v Speaker 1>man and someone that gets what man, So we want

1:21:38.120 --> 1:21:42.880
<v Speaker 1>who's who's the cat that uh right? No, no, no, no,

1:21:42.920 --> 1:21:52.920
<v Speaker 1>no class dead. So you know, wait, who's ill of

1:21:52.960 --> 1:21:57.160
<v Speaker 1>the dead? I got a great example. I got a

1:21:57.200 --> 1:22:01.680
<v Speaker 1>great example. There's two examples. Who's the guy who's the

1:22:01.720 --> 1:22:04.720
<v Speaker 1>guy that sings the theme to mister Belvidere and the

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<v Speaker 1>all the all detergent throwing to bro We can all utilize.

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<v Speaker 7>I wanted to know mister Belvedere come ons a double

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<v Speaker 7>like he.

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<v Speaker 1>Leon Redbon, so Leon Redbone? He's about was he like

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<v Speaker 1>seventy eight? Now how do you get the gig? Because Jimmy,

1:22:30.320 --> 1:22:35.760
<v Speaker 1>that's the thing like oftentimes, like random ideas will come

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<v Speaker 1>and then the unfortunate thing is like the perception of

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<v Speaker 1>oh the roots can do anything. Is that hurts us

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<v Speaker 1>so much because I'm a dog and smoking mirror a human? Yeah,

1:22:49.040 --> 1:22:53.120
<v Speaker 1>with with with with smoking mirrors. I mean, anything can happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But oftentimes we'll get thrown. Occasionally we'll get thrown a

1:22:57.320 --> 1:23:01.479
<v Speaker 1>curveball where it's like, oh, I want you know, I

1:23:01.560 --> 1:23:03.680
<v Speaker 1>want to hear the guy that's singing the all the

1:23:03.720 --> 1:23:07.280
<v Speaker 1>commercials from the seventies and and the mister Belvedere theme.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, in theory, it's seems like a good idea. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's like I'm the one that has Usually these

1:23:14.479 --> 1:23:17.040
<v Speaker 1>people are like seventy nine, eighty years old, right, so

1:23:17.120 --> 1:23:19.639
<v Speaker 1>it's like he's sixty nine. How old is he sixty nine?

1:23:19.680 --> 1:23:24.759
<v Speaker 1>Trust me, he's more like eighty nine. And it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so at the counter of three, we're going to start dope,

1:23:27.800 --> 1:23:30.639
<v Speaker 1>b bro, You're throwing to China, devote the vote rope

1:23:30.840 --> 1:23:34.920
<v Speaker 1>whatever the lyrics are to mister velvit. And it's like

1:23:35.160 --> 1:23:37.479
<v Speaker 1>they might not be that quick, you know what I mean.

1:23:38.280 --> 1:23:41.519
<v Speaker 1>And oftentimes they'll be like what dude, and they'll just

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<v Speaker 1>look at the camera like, oh man, who's the guitar player?

1:23:50.240 --> 1:23:54.040
<v Speaker 1>And uh reitha Wranglin was singing respect to him and

1:23:54.400 --> 1:24:00.559
<v Speaker 1>the Blues brothers. Uh oh oh, Mcutar Murphy, No, Mcott Murphy.

1:24:01.120 --> 1:24:05.519
<v Speaker 1>One time, Mad Guitar Murphy. You remember how aunt esther

1:24:06.560 --> 1:24:09.800
<v Speaker 1>and Friday when she was the Jove's witness, the way

1:24:09.880 --> 1:24:20.680
<v Speaker 1>she said fuck you, Well, the funniest moment in our

1:24:20.840 --> 1:24:23.679
<v Speaker 1>history of that show of sit ins. M Guitar Murphy

1:24:23.920 --> 1:24:27.040
<v Speaker 1>again up there in age or whatever. Didn't want to

1:24:27.040 --> 1:24:29.120
<v Speaker 1>wear in the ears or anything. So I'm like trying

1:24:29.160 --> 1:24:34.519
<v Speaker 1>to tell him, okay, the next song yeah, and he

1:24:34.680 --> 1:24:39.320
<v Speaker 1>just looked at me and he's just like fuck and

1:24:39.439 --> 1:24:42.960
<v Speaker 1>he took his guitar and walked off to walk off

1:24:46.320 --> 1:24:49.439
<v Speaker 1>over here over to you.

1:24:51.280 --> 1:24:51.679
<v Speaker 9>Stories?

1:24:52.040 --> 1:24:54.960
<v Speaker 1>What's your favorite? What stories are you allowed to tell?

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<v Speaker 10>You can speaking in.

1:24:58.640 --> 1:25:01.559
<v Speaker 14>We had jazz week that was yeah, we're talking about

1:25:01.600 --> 1:25:02.719
<v Speaker 14>some good oldies.

1:25:03.479 --> 1:25:09.240
<v Speaker 1>Wow that it's only like twelve seconds of Tod and

1:25:09.320 --> 1:25:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Heath.

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<v Speaker 10>To the Heath Brothers Brothers. That week it was the

1:25:16.120 --> 1:25:24.679
<v Speaker 10>Heath Brothers, Wayne Shorter, Wow. Roy, Roy haynes Man, Yeah,

1:25:25.320 --> 1:25:25.720
<v Speaker 10>he can know.

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<v Speaker 7>He's good. Roy is good.

1:25:28.000 --> 1:25:31.839
<v Speaker 10>Roy played over Steven on a bumper.

1:25:32.200 --> 1:25:38.599
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, eighty five, eighty five at least, right, he's ninety two.

1:25:40.840 --> 1:25:45.400
<v Speaker 1>We get fired from music director job late.

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<v Speaker 10>He played over the bumpers at last, you know, like

1:25:52.000 --> 1:25:56.040
<v Speaker 10>twelve fifteen seconds coming in and then you stop and

1:25:56.120 --> 1:25:58.439
<v Speaker 10>then the show goes on, propels you into the next

1:25:58.479 --> 1:26:01.439
<v Speaker 10>act of the show. So Roy is playing and he's

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<v Speaker 10>in the middle of just this fiery solo, and like

1:26:05.960 --> 1:26:08.320
<v Speaker 10>all of us on stage are like, man, this is amazing.

1:26:08.880 --> 1:26:11.559
<v Speaker 10>But I'm like, how do I get him to stop?

1:26:13.120 --> 1:26:19.280
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like waving my hands, no, no, oh, you

1:26:19.360 --> 1:26:19.840
<v Speaker 1>were coming in.

1:26:21.439 --> 1:26:24.559
<v Speaker 10>How do I get him to stop, So what did

1:26:24.600 --> 1:26:24.760
<v Speaker 10>you do?

1:26:30.080 --> 1:26:30.720
<v Speaker 7>What did you do?

1:26:31.400 --> 1:26:35.360
<v Speaker 10>So at one point he realized it, but it was

1:26:35.439 --> 1:26:39.680
<v Speaker 10>about thirty seconds in and Stephen was like, did I

1:26:39.840 --> 1:26:43.640
<v Speaker 10>just hallucinate? Did y'all just hear that? You know, he

1:26:43.680 --> 1:26:47.080
<v Speaker 10>incorporated into the bit. But it's just the sittings are

1:26:47.200 --> 1:26:47.920
<v Speaker 10>very difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>How how distracting? Can I ask? How distracting is noodling? Oh,

1:26:57.320 --> 1:27:03.880
<v Speaker 1>I hate to the show noodling? Okay, so it's guitar player.

1:27:04.880 --> 1:27:07.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not throwing Jimmy under the bus at all. Jimmy

1:27:07.560 --> 1:27:09.400
<v Speaker 1>is very distracted by noodling.

1:27:09.560 --> 1:27:11.840
<v Speaker 4>So just cooking noodles on the side of the stage.

1:27:15.600 --> 1:27:18.960
<v Speaker 4>It's just like your guitar, but you're not playing the

1:27:19.040 --> 1:27:21.160
<v Speaker 4>song even if the amp is off.

1:27:21.240 --> 1:27:23.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, sometimes guitar players will sit there and like

1:27:25.280 --> 1:27:27.560
<v Speaker 1>practice a little bit, but Jimmy can still hear the

1:27:29.800 --> 1:27:34.799
<v Speaker 1>So oftentimes I have to remind people like any tuning,

1:27:36.640 --> 1:27:40.600
<v Speaker 1>any tuning, or you're basically supposed to be a frozen

1:27:40.840 --> 1:27:46.080
<v Speaker 1>statue while the show's going on, and oftentimes one little

1:27:46.280 --> 1:27:51.479
<v Speaker 1>like a or accidents happen, you know what I mean.

1:27:52.320 --> 1:27:57.240
<v Speaker 1>But it has the potential to throw his concentration game off.

1:27:57.680 --> 1:28:01.880
<v Speaker 1>It's like if you're shooting, uh a three point shot

1:28:02.000 --> 1:28:04.360
<v Speaker 1>with five seconds left in the game and suddenly your

1:28:04.400 --> 1:28:08.280
<v Speaker 1>mom's on the side, Hey, hey, hey, you know, distract

1:28:08.840 --> 1:28:12.920
<v Speaker 1>and it can throw off the game. So I'm saying,

1:28:13.160 --> 1:28:18.320
<v Speaker 1>how when mistakes like that happen, is there fear in

1:28:18.360 --> 1:28:20.599
<v Speaker 1>your heart, like, oh God, this is the end of mine.

1:28:21.640 --> 1:28:25.519
<v Speaker 10>It's we've gotten good at at at moving around because

1:28:25.560 --> 1:28:30.000
<v Speaker 10>we still move around the theater and and and and basically,

1:28:30.120 --> 1:28:32.200
<v Speaker 10>we'll be playing in the balcony one break, or we'll

1:28:32.200 --> 1:28:35.200
<v Speaker 10>be playing and you know, we'll go to the there's

1:28:35.240 --> 1:28:38.200
<v Speaker 10>a two tiers, so we'll go to the balcony on

1:28:38.360 --> 1:28:40.400
<v Speaker 10>the stage side, or we'll go to the balcony on

1:28:40.920 --> 1:28:43.240
<v Speaker 10>the audience side, or we'll go in the aisles or

1:28:43.720 --> 1:28:46.200
<v Speaker 10>and and we have a lot of percussion instruments and

1:28:46.320 --> 1:28:48.760
<v Speaker 10>tambourines make a lot of noise when you pick them up.

1:28:50.400 --> 1:28:52.680
<v Speaker 10>So we've gotten good at it, so we don't have

1:28:52.800 --> 1:28:55.960
<v Speaker 10>as many hiccups anymore. But we got a note early on,

1:28:56.560 --> 1:29:00.840
<v Speaker 10>like in the first year, we got an email. I

1:29:00.920 --> 1:29:05.719
<v Speaker 10>get the email and it's like, so during the show,

1:29:06.360 --> 1:29:08.800
<v Speaker 10>would like it if the band area could be as

1:29:08.920 --> 1:29:15.840
<v Speaker 10>quiet as possible and I was like, oh, okay, but

1:29:15.960 --> 1:29:18.120
<v Speaker 10>the energy was like during the show, I knew it

1:29:18.280 --> 1:29:21.560
<v Speaker 10>was coming because I think somebody dropped the tambourine and

1:29:21.680 --> 1:29:24.280
<v Speaker 10>Steven looked over. He didn't say anything, but he looked

1:29:24.280 --> 1:29:29.880
<v Speaker 10>over like he's like, hmm okay. And then next day, Oh,

1:29:31.439 --> 1:29:34.360
<v Speaker 10>what what time do you have to be there? Normally, well,

1:29:35.360 --> 1:29:36.840
<v Speaker 10>it's changed production.

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<v Speaker 1>Meeting or it's Marissa the production meeting person. What time

1:29:39.760 --> 1:29:40.400
<v Speaker 1>do you have to be there?

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<v Speaker 14>In the more so, I technically don't work at the

1:29:42.200 --> 1:29:44.920
<v Speaker 14>Late Show anymore. I worked just for John, but I

1:29:45.000 --> 1:29:46.960
<v Speaker 14>worked there for three years. I actually worked the premiere

1:29:47.120 --> 1:29:49.639
<v Speaker 14>of the Late Show and the premiere of the Tonight Show.

1:29:51.960 --> 1:29:53.200
<v Speaker 7>Took the information, and.

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<v Speaker 14>So this is like a colliding of two worlds right

1:29:57.960 --> 1:30:02.280
<v Speaker 14>now a little a little bit. Yeah, but production meeting

1:30:02.360 --> 1:30:04.439
<v Speaker 14>starts at ten thirty, So back when I was an

1:30:04.439 --> 1:30:07.479
<v Speaker 14>employe at CBS had to be in around ten. John

1:30:07.560 --> 1:30:10.560
<v Speaker 14>usually gets in around The schedule change is depending on

1:30:11.200 --> 1:30:12.439
<v Speaker 14>how you feel with the band.

1:30:12.560 --> 1:30:14.760
<v Speaker 1>How often you do live in Manhattan? Please tell me

1:30:14.840 --> 1:30:16.240
<v Speaker 1>you do? I used to.

1:30:16.360 --> 1:30:17.160
<v Speaker 10>I don't anymore.

1:30:17.320 --> 1:30:19.760
<v Speaker 1>No, you Lioklyn, Brooklyn used to.

1:30:19.760 --> 1:30:21.880
<v Speaker 14>Live two blocks away in Brooklyn.

1:30:21.920 --> 1:30:23.400
<v Speaker 7>Look at him, Yeah, I belong in Brooklyn.

1:30:23.640 --> 1:30:26.439
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I still maintain they want me to live at

1:30:26.479 --> 1:30:27.519
<v Speaker 1>thirty one Rock.

1:30:27.640 --> 1:30:29.960
<v Speaker 10>Oh yeah, yeah, Oh for sure.

1:30:30.240 --> 1:30:32.360
<v Speaker 14>John would roll out of bed and walk to work

1:30:32.439 --> 1:30:34.280
<v Speaker 14>in probably fifteen seconds. That's how close here.

1:30:34.360 --> 1:30:34.759
<v Speaker 1>Awesome.

1:30:35.280 --> 1:30:36.080
<v Speaker 7>Now it's like an hour.

1:30:37.560 --> 1:30:41.960
<v Speaker 10>I'll so I just wanted to get outside of it. Yeah.

1:30:42.080 --> 1:30:44.599
<v Speaker 10>And also I want I want to put a studio

1:30:45.000 --> 1:30:46.719
<v Speaker 10>because I have so many things that I want to record.

1:30:46.800 --> 1:30:48.479
<v Speaker 10>I'm putting the studio at the bottom floor, so I

1:30:48.520 --> 1:30:50.120
<v Speaker 10>can kind of just roll out of bit and go

1:30:50.200 --> 1:30:52.040
<v Speaker 10>to the studio and then go to work.

1:30:52.400 --> 1:30:55.120
<v Speaker 7>Can I ask you just to rate your millennialism? What

1:30:55.240 --> 1:30:56.360
<v Speaker 7>part of Brooklyn do you live in?

1:30:57.080 --> 1:31:00.599
<v Speaker 10>So it's like Clinton Hill, Fort Green Borders.

1:31:00.800 --> 1:31:03.160
<v Speaker 7>What's what you think, Bill, that's like a little stage five?

1:31:07.640 --> 1:31:09.080
<v Speaker 10>Great your millennium.

1:31:10.040 --> 1:31:11.559
<v Speaker 11>He's living around the area where I used to live

1:31:11.600 --> 1:31:13.760
<v Speaker 11>when I first moved to Brooklyn and got priced out.

1:31:14.040 --> 1:31:21.040
<v Speaker 7>Oh you gentified? Can as you never read any of

1:31:21.120 --> 1:31:24.360
<v Speaker 7>the the cons of because we all know that Steven

1:31:24.439 --> 1:31:26.559
<v Speaker 7>is so involved in the politics side of things. Does

1:31:26.600 --> 1:31:28.200
<v Speaker 7>that ever come at you in any type of way?

1:31:28.600 --> 1:31:34.400
<v Speaker 10>You know it It doesn't, But it's definitely aligned to

1:31:34.600 --> 1:31:39.280
<v Speaker 10>tread in the sense that you have your identity, but

1:31:39.400 --> 1:31:41.800
<v Speaker 10>your identity is so closely related to the show and

1:31:41.880 --> 1:31:42.800
<v Speaker 10>the content of the show.

1:31:43.560 --> 1:31:46.639
<v Speaker 1>So people watching the show probably know what they're getting into.

1:31:47.240 --> 1:31:49.560
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, but I don't know if you know.

1:31:49.920 --> 1:31:51.320
<v Speaker 7>That's true. But I didn't know if you get those.

1:31:51.840 --> 1:31:54.439
<v Speaker 7>I'm sure he still gets mean emails and hate stuff.

1:31:54.479 --> 1:31:57.760
<v Speaker 7>I'm talking about Steven, not John saying. Yeah, people still

1:31:57.800 --> 1:31:59.320
<v Speaker 7>don't like it. They know what he's saying. They don't

1:31:59.400 --> 1:31:59.519
<v Speaker 7>like it.

1:31:59.840 --> 1:32:01.960
<v Speaker 1>I love it myself, but I feel like, if you're

1:32:02.000 --> 1:32:05.240
<v Speaker 1>watching Stephen Colbert, you know what you're getting.

1:32:05.320 --> 1:32:05.680
<v Speaker 7>Oh you do?

1:32:10.960 --> 1:32:12.680
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, what's the cafeteria like that?

1:32:13.920 --> 1:32:14.640
<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

1:32:14.920 --> 1:32:20.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, There's so many things I want to ask

1:32:20.479 --> 1:32:24.880
<v Speaker 1>about this show. First of all, what what's the degree

1:32:25.000 --> 1:32:27.320
<v Speaker 1>level of the of the theater? How cold is it?

1:32:27.479 --> 1:32:27.599
<v Speaker 7>Oh?

1:32:28.040 --> 1:32:29.800
<v Speaker 1>Man, damn me.

1:32:31.000 --> 1:32:34.000
<v Speaker 14>It's like i'd say, probably fifty eight degrees.

1:32:34.240 --> 1:32:36.719
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, you can see your breath still cold.

1:32:37.240 --> 1:32:39.280
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, they've kept it cold. They say that they keep

1:32:39.320 --> 1:32:42.360
<v Speaker 14>it cold to make people make people laugh, right, and

1:32:42.560 --> 1:32:44.160
<v Speaker 14>back in the day they kept it cold because the

1:32:44.240 --> 1:32:46.599
<v Speaker 14>lights were so hot. Now they're LEDs. They don't produce

1:32:46.640 --> 1:32:47.000
<v Speaker 14>any They.

1:32:46.960 --> 1:32:49.160
<v Speaker 7>Always got a reason, they say, to strip levels of

1:32:49.240 --> 1:32:51.559
<v Speaker 7>the nipples hard. It's always exactly exactly.

1:32:54.800 --> 1:32:56.559
<v Speaker 14>You got to wear a winter jacket when you're in there.

1:32:56.680 --> 1:33:01.080
<v Speaker 1>We we should say that the CBS Theater letterman was

1:33:01.120 --> 1:33:04.040
<v Speaker 1>there first. Yeah, and he started normally it should be

1:33:04.240 --> 1:33:06.800
<v Speaker 1>sixty eight degrees, yes, and then when the lights come on,

1:33:07.479 --> 1:33:09.880
<v Speaker 1>then it's hot. But as she said, now it's led.

1:33:10.160 --> 1:33:14.120
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't there's no heat uh emanated from it. And

1:33:14.360 --> 1:33:18.719
<v Speaker 1>now it's like fifty eight degrees.

1:33:18.960 --> 1:33:20.719
<v Speaker 10>That's not that's ballpark.

1:33:20.800 --> 1:33:23.120
<v Speaker 14>But I think around there the other.

1:33:23.120 --> 1:33:28.960
<v Speaker 10>Day it was factually recorded at fifty eight because that

1:33:29.080 --> 1:33:31.400
<v Speaker 10>was fake news. How big was the theater though there

1:33:31.560 --> 1:33:35.920
<v Speaker 10>was a it's about a five hundred seater.

1:33:35.960 --> 1:33:37.439
<v Speaker 14>Really tall ceilings. There's a big dome.

1:33:37.800 --> 1:33:41.439
<v Speaker 7>It's five hundred seats, bigger than another woman. Yeah, the

1:33:41.560 --> 1:33:42.680
<v Speaker 7>ceiling is that's what he has.

1:33:43.800 --> 1:33:46.559
<v Speaker 1>No, No, because in my mind I thought you guys

1:33:46.600 --> 1:33:50.160
<v Speaker 1>were playing for like ten thousand people. No, it seems large.

1:33:49.840 --> 1:33:54.559
<v Speaker 10>As like a little like four ninety something looks big

1:33:54.600 --> 1:33:55.120
<v Speaker 10>on cameracks.

1:33:55.200 --> 1:33:57.760
<v Speaker 14>The dome is. The dome is pretty massive. But yeah,

1:33:57.880 --> 1:33:59.920
<v Speaker 14>seat wise, it's I think it's under five hundred.

1:34:00.080 --> 1:34:05.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, damn, okay, it's nice. You guys have to warm

1:34:05.400 --> 1:34:07.400
<v Speaker 1>up at the beginning. Oh yeah, are you tired of

1:34:07.439 --> 1:34:11.479
<v Speaker 1>marching out and doing It's like a it's it's good

1:34:11.560 --> 1:34:14.800
<v Speaker 1>for the band if we keep it fresh. So if

1:34:14.880 --> 1:34:15.920
<v Speaker 1>we we change it.

1:34:17.479 --> 1:34:22.040
<v Speaker 10>Exactly, so you gotta you gotta come out and you

1:34:22.200 --> 1:34:25.040
<v Speaker 10>have to do something that you don't even know how

1:34:25.080 --> 1:34:27.840
<v Speaker 10>it's going to turn out. It's almost like a way

1:34:27.920 --> 1:34:30.559
<v Speaker 10>for us to warm up ourselves, not even just the house.

1:34:31.439 --> 1:34:35.080
<v Speaker 10>So we've recently been we've been doing sunny rollins Saint Thomas.

1:34:36.040 --> 1:34:42.200
<v Speaker 10>Oh okay, yeah, but sometimes we used to go out

1:34:42.240 --> 1:34:44.920
<v Speaker 10>and it would just be like, here's here's the groove,

1:34:45.000 --> 1:34:50.720
<v Speaker 10>let's play sky in G and then we'll modulate on Q.

1:34:51.040 --> 1:34:54.400
<v Speaker 1>To be flat. Right, So you guys have your your

1:34:54.479 --> 1:34:57.759
<v Speaker 1>code speaker. Yeah, okay, since you're playing in close quarters.

1:34:57.840 --> 1:35:01.400
<v Speaker 1>I will say that for the roots, at least these

1:35:01.520 --> 1:35:06.240
<v Speaker 1>last nine years brought us so close together in a

1:35:06.320 --> 1:35:10.680
<v Speaker 1>way that is scary, where we can now literally have

1:35:10.920 --> 1:35:18.280
<v Speaker 1>conversations with each other musically, which I mean just our

1:35:18.520 --> 1:35:23.559
<v Speaker 1>our our level of code speak, certain certain reference lines,

1:35:23.640 --> 1:35:27.880
<v Speaker 1>and Mark plays something we know, you know, third row

1:35:28.479 --> 1:35:31.240
<v Speaker 1>five seats in polka dot shirt.

1:35:32.000 --> 1:35:34.480
<v Speaker 7>Not anymore because he's married.

1:35:35.280 --> 1:35:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Exactly look.

1:35:37.640 --> 1:35:40.120
<v Speaker 7>Touch he can't look they.

1:35:42.520 --> 1:35:46.240
<v Speaker 1>Heard that my fault mark, But I mean it's hypothetical.

1:35:47.040 --> 1:35:51.679
<v Speaker 1>But the point is that there's at least there's about

1:35:51.720 --> 1:35:55.200
<v Speaker 1>thirty things we can communicate with each other without saying

1:35:55.320 --> 1:35:57.400
<v Speaker 1>a word to each other. I could literally play something

1:35:57.479 --> 1:36:00.800
<v Speaker 1>on the tambourine or or or the symbol or something

1:36:01.360 --> 1:36:03.560
<v Speaker 1>if I want Kirk's attention, I know what riff to

1:36:03.600 --> 1:36:06.160
<v Speaker 1>play if I want the horns, and there's something I

1:36:06.280 --> 1:36:10.040
<v Speaker 1>do a rhythm on the fourth. So are you guys

1:36:10.120 --> 1:36:13.000
<v Speaker 1>at that zen moment now where you guys know each

1:36:13.040 --> 1:36:13.280
<v Speaker 1>other that?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, yeah, it's it's some wild, just coldes that we

1:36:17.840 --> 1:36:22.200
<v Speaker 10>got happening with, especially with the band who the guys

1:36:22.200 --> 1:36:24.920
<v Speaker 10>who were part of the band before the show. We

1:36:25.080 --> 1:36:27.439
<v Speaker 10>brought some of that in because we developed a lot

1:36:27.479 --> 1:36:32.439
<v Speaker 10>of colds when we would play on the subways. Because

1:36:32.479 --> 1:36:36.280
<v Speaker 10>when we play on the subways, you couldn't always say

1:36:36.400 --> 1:36:41.280
<v Speaker 10>something to the cat, here comes thugs, let's go right, yeah,

1:36:42.560 --> 1:36:45.640
<v Speaker 10>you know what I mean. So it's like taking that

1:36:45.960 --> 1:36:48.840
<v Speaker 10>and then also playing together every days. It's been a

1:36:48.960 --> 1:36:52.200
<v Speaker 10>lot of little things that when we play a venue

1:36:52.320 --> 1:36:55.439
<v Speaker 10>now it just feels like, oh, we're running now. We

1:36:55.520 --> 1:36:58.360
<v Speaker 10>took the weight to off our ankles. It's like, oh,

1:36:58.560 --> 1:37:02.040
<v Speaker 10>this is like way easier than it used to be.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. One of my final questions, are you tired

1:37:04.880 --> 1:37:07.800
<v Speaker 1>of people asking you how long is this going to

1:37:07.840 --> 1:37:09.040
<v Speaker 1>be for? Oh?

1:37:09.160 --> 1:37:10.640
<v Speaker 7>My goodness, how long it is gonna be for?

1:37:11.479 --> 1:37:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Well? I mean, I mean.

1:37:16.240 --> 1:37:20.360
<v Speaker 10>Question, Hey, yeah, I gotta get.

1:37:20.479 --> 1:37:22.360
<v Speaker 7>You got to ask every man, every thirty year old man,

1:37:22.400 --> 1:37:24.320
<v Speaker 7>that question, how long you're gonna be here for? Because

1:37:24.360 --> 1:37:25.040
<v Speaker 7>you know y'all like to.

1:37:26.040 --> 1:37:31.920
<v Speaker 10>I mean, I tell you what. The the first part

1:37:31.960 --> 1:37:35.800
<v Speaker 10>of the contract is five years. Okay, so I'm there,

1:37:36.200 --> 1:37:40.080
<v Speaker 10>there you go, and the rest we'll see. I mean,

1:37:40.160 --> 1:37:42.160
<v Speaker 10>I love doing it. I don't have plans to leave,

1:37:42.200 --> 1:37:45.280
<v Speaker 10>and so it's just it's hard to know because we're

1:37:45.360 --> 1:37:47.760
<v Speaker 10>actually doing the show almost every day. And it's like,

1:37:47.800 --> 1:37:49.040
<v Speaker 10>you gotta be thinking about that.

1:37:49.200 --> 1:37:51.160
<v Speaker 7>Because you can't now you can't do projects like you

1:37:51.240 --> 1:37:53.120
<v Speaker 7>did the season of tre May and stuff like that.

1:37:53.240 --> 1:37:54.920
<v Speaker 7>But you want to do you want to still do

1:37:55.080 --> 1:37:55.640
<v Speaker 7>things like that.

1:37:57.640 --> 1:38:00.360
<v Speaker 1>There's another question I asked, wait, digit can you does

1:38:00.520 --> 1:38:04.479
<v Speaker 1>each band member, well, it's this as does each band

1:38:04.560 --> 1:38:09.800
<v Speaker 1>member have their own backup sub just in case you

1:38:09.880 --> 1:38:12.040
<v Speaker 1>get a call about blah blah blah being in the

1:38:12.120 --> 1:38:14.680
<v Speaker 1>hospital or wow, someone's.

1:38:15.280 --> 1:38:17.040
<v Speaker 10>I'm I'm never subbed.

1:38:18.400 --> 1:38:20.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm just damn y'all love each other too.

1:38:21.160 --> 1:38:26.080
<v Speaker 10>It was like, I'm just trying to think of what

1:38:26.160 --> 1:38:27.880
<v Speaker 10>would happen if we needed.

1:38:27.640 --> 1:38:29.880
<v Speaker 1>A sub So if somebody's sick, they just.

1:38:31.200 --> 1:38:34.720
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, nobody been sick. What kind of what y'all doing?

1:38:35.439 --> 1:38:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Kind of health regiment.

1:38:37.800 --> 1:38:41.920
<v Speaker 10>I've been sick on stage before. Steven's also been sick

1:38:42.000 --> 1:38:42.880
<v Speaker 10>on stage before.

1:38:43.840 --> 1:38:46.639
<v Speaker 1>With y'all, it's kind of the show has to go on. Yeah,

1:38:46.800 --> 1:38:51.200
<v Speaker 1>I found I finally found a drummer that like, when

1:38:51.280 --> 1:38:54.080
<v Speaker 1>I closed my eyes, I was like, holy shit, I'm

1:38:54.160 --> 1:38:56.040
<v Speaker 1>playing drums? Who is that?

1:38:56.439 --> 1:38:56.559
<v Speaker 7>Who?

1:38:56.600 --> 1:38:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Did I just ask you about? Raised? Raised drumm? Willie

1:38:59.800 --> 1:39:05.800
<v Speaker 1>Jones Jones? I want him to be. I want him

1:39:05.840 --> 1:39:09.120
<v Speaker 1>to be. Do you just want vacation? No, well, I

1:39:09.200 --> 1:39:11.360
<v Speaker 1>mean just in case you get a call or something like.

1:39:11.479 --> 1:39:15.160
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing. It's it's things gonna happen. You know,

1:39:15.320 --> 1:39:17.559
<v Speaker 1>when my father passed away and I had to rush

1:39:17.640 --> 1:39:19.880
<v Speaker 1>to to take care of stuff and Philly, I need

1:39:19.960 --> 1:39:22.000
<v Speaker 1>someone to send him for four days, and I had

1:39:22.080 --> 1:39:22.439
<v Speaker 1>that person.

1:39:22.640 --> 1:39:26.800
<v Speaker 12>But there's other things to your job besides drumming, like his.

1:39:28.439 --> 1:39:30.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but at the end of the day, it's it's

1:39:30.240 --> 1:39:32.800
<v Speaker 1>still I know that there's a lot that revolves, but

1:39:32.920 --> 1:39:35.320
<v Speaker 1>the way that the circle is now the way that

1:39:35.479 --> 1:39:41.080
<v Speaker 1>I planned it. You know, I could as long as

1:39:41.160 --> 1:39:43.479
<v Speaker 1>those twelve seconds are straight going in and going out.

1:39:43.880 --> 1:39:46.640
<v Speaker 12>My point is that your guys jobs involved more than

1:39:46.680 --> 1:39:47.440
<v Speaker 12>just musicianship.

1:39:47.479 --> 1:39:49.320
<v Speaker 1>You have to be charismatic, you have to be funny.

1:39:49.800 --> 1:39:52.120
<v Speaker 1>But there's Treek, see, there's.

1:39:52.120 --> 1:39:56.120
<v Speaker 7>There's you got tore though, right, But John, Who's.

1:39:56.160 --> 1:39:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Who's the second most charismatic person in the group? Just

1:39:59.040 --> 1:40:01.080
<v Speaker 1>in case, what would you say would do that?

1:40:01.840 --> 1:40:05.000
<v Speaker 14>That's not like John, you got energy this like could

1:40:05.040 --> 1:40:06.920
<v Speaker 14>step in and be the front man.

1:40:07.840 --> 1:40:08.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:40:09.280 --> 1:40:10.360
<v Speaker 10>We I don't think we've ever.

1:40:10.680 --> 1:40:11.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean forever.

1:40:11.400 --> 1:40:14.679
<v Speaker 10>I just mean like a show school would do that because.

1:40:14.880 --> 1:40:18.760
<v Speaker 7>Now I think we're messing them up because get sick,

1:40:19.280 --> 1:40:20.200
<v Speaker 7>you know, I feel.

1:40:19.960 --> 1:40:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Like we're getting energy has evil face.

1:40:26.560 --> 1:40:30.599
<v Speaker 10>I was thinking, even even in situations where someone has

1:40:31.200 --> 1:40:33.880
<v Speaker 10>missed shows, we don't get a sub We just played

1:40:33.920 --> 1:40:37.719
<v Speaker 10>with with the band without like like like Lewis Cato

1:40:38.479 --> 1:40:41.080
<v Speaker 10>plays the bass and then when he was out for

1:40:41.120 --> 1:40:43.479
<v Speaker 10>a while, we just did shows where there was no base,

1:40:44.439 --> 1:40:46.080
<v Speaker 10>with no drugs. We have Tuba as well.

1:40:46.800 --> 1:40:47.559
<v Speaker 1>So, I mean.

1:40:49.120 --> 1:40:50.479
<v Speaker 10>It would be interesting to do this.

1:40:50.640 --> 1:40:52.640
<v Speaker 7>I don't I think this is dangerous. I don't know.

1:40:52.680 --> 1:40:55.560
<v Speaker 7>But you should just play, you should plan for it.

1:40:55.680 --> 1:40:59.040
<v Speaker 10>But yeah, I gotta think about that. It's almost seven

1:40:59.160 --> 1:41:01.000
<v Speaker 10>hundred shows six What.

1:41:01.080 --> 1:41:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Are you guys on, Alex We're on number No, we are,

1:41:05.880 --> 1:41:08.560
<v Speaker 1>We're about we're coming up on two thousand. We're on

1:41:08.680 --> 1:41:09.640
<v Speaker 1>eight hundred something right now?

1:41:09.760 --> 1:41:09.880
<v Speaker 10>Right?

1:41:10.360 --> 1:41:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Are we in the nine hundreds?

1:41:11.439 --> 1:41:13.200
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, we're nine to fifty on the Tonight Show and

1:41:13.240 --> 1:41:15.800
<v Speaker 12>we did like nine seventy on the first one.

1:41:16.120 --> 1:41:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh shit, I forgot about. But who's late Night?

1:41:19.320 --> 1:41:19.519
<v Speaker 7>John?

1:41:19.640 --> 1:41:21.960
<v Speaker 10>Got about the first A John?

1:41:21.960 --> 1:41:23.080
<v Speaker 7>What's a Hollywood African?

1:41:23.680 --> 1:41:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

1:41:23.880 --> 1:41:24.200
<v Speaker 10>My good?

1:41:24.320 --> 1:41:24.840
<v Speaker 14>Nice segue?

1:41:25.080 --> 1:41:25.400
<v Speaker 7>You like that?

1:41:27.120 --> 1:41:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 10>So in entertainment, Jean Michelle Boskia, who I've been researching

1:41:33.240 --> 1:41:36.200
<v Speaker 10>for the last year because I'm doing a musical sinspired

1:41:36.240 --> 1:41:40.479
<v Speaker 10>by his life for Broadway. I've been researching him and

1:41:40.600 --> 1:41:42.840
<v Speaker 10>that's one of his paintings from eighty three.

1:41:43.240 --> 1:41:45.120
<v Speaker 7>Is called fuck Why did not?

1:41:45.280 --> 1:41:45.360
<v Speaker 10>Now?

1:41:45.400 --> 1:41:46.120
<v Speaker 7>I feel ignorant?

1:41:46.160 --> 1:41:48.120
<v Speaker 1>See? I thought she was trying to lead into something.

1:41:48.160 --> 1:41:48.720
<v Speaker 1>I thought you knew that.

1:41:48.760 --> 1:41:54.120
<v Speaker 10>Well that's the title, yeah, that title? But title the

1:41:54.200 --> 1:41:56.600
<v Speaker 10>title of my album that when we just put an

1:41:56.600 --> 1:42:00.439
<v Speaker 10>album out called Hollywood Africans. But the idol is a

1:42:00.520 --> 1:42:04.519
<v Speaker 10>homage to Jean Michelle Bosquas nineteen eighty three painting where

1:42:04.560 --> 1:42:07.719
<v Speaker 10>he's kind of it's an indictment of the entertainment industry

1:42:07.840 --> 1:42:11.120
<v Speaker 10>and the way that there's a marginalization of African American

1:42:11.240 --> 1:42:14.000
<v Speaker 10>entertainers and how they have to wear a mask while

1:42:14.960 --> 1:42:16.280
<v Speaker 10>creating all these different things.

1:42:16.400 --> 1:42:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Code speaking, Yeah, we talked about code speaking on the

1:42:19.400 --> 1:42:21.680
<v Speaker 1>show last week. It was the funniest thing ever on

1:42:21.800 --> 1:42:25.160
<v Speaker 1>y'all show because, uh, the actress that used to be

1:42:25.240 --> 1:42:30.880
<v Speaker 1>in The Hungry Games and now in Amanda. Yeah, yeah,

1:42:31.360 --> 1:42:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I forget it. Amanda. She was trying to explain what

1:42:38.800 --> 1:42:48.320
<v Speaker 1>code speaking was at each other, like someone gets it? Well,

1:42:48.439 --> 1:42:54.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, uh, you know, are there any other Have

1:42:54.960 --> 1:42:55.759
<v Speaker 1>we covered everything?

1:42:56.000 --> 1:42:56.040
<v Speaker 7>No?

1:42:56.240 --> 1:42:59.840
<v Speaker 1>We don't everything. Is there something that you missed? Uh?

1:43:00.240 --> 1:43:04.000
<v Speaker 12>No, it's just so ultra interesting, you know to hear about.

1:43:06.160 --> 1:43:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Wow, Steve, what what was that way to wrap it up? Steve?

1:43:11.840 --> 1:43:14.160
<v Speaker 7>Can I just ask I have to do this for

1:43:14.400 --> 1:43:16.479
<v Speaker 7>just because I'm a female and somebody's going to want

1:43:16.479 --> 1:43:16.680
<v Speaker 7>to know.

1:43:17.479 --> 1:43:22.439
<v Speaker 10>You sing, Hey, I'm in a relationship, talk.

1:43:22.360 --> 1:43:28.120
<v Speaker 7>About all right? I am your marriage dude, don't know

1:43:28.240 --> 1:43:30.240
<v Speaker 7>you always do that beauty.

1:43:30.320 --> 1:43:34.520
<v Speaker 1>People like people relationship.

1:43:34.920 --> 1:43:37.320
<v Speaker 7>They hit you too when I ask you about your personal.

1:43:37.560 --> 1:43:40.800
<v Speaker 1>When they when you when one one guest of ours

1:43:40.960 --> 1:43:42.240
<v Speaker 1>was like, damn why she had to put me in

1:43:42.240 --> 1:43:42.840
<v Speaker 1>the autar like that?

1:43:46.560 --> 1:43:54.719
<v Speaker 7>Nobody heard that one. Wow, thank you taking congratulations.

1:43:54.479 --> 1:43:58.080
<v Speaker 1>And thank you John for the the the Late Night

1:43:58.120 --> 1:44:02.519
<v Speaker 1>Wars edition John, go ahead, Oh yeah, all we need

1:44:02.680 --> 1:44:10.280
<v Speaker 1>is what's his name formerly of mactub Oh, I can't

1:44:10.280 --> 1:44:14.360
<v Speaker 1>think of his name face but I can't uh Afro,

1:44:16.600 --> 1:44:21.639
<v Speaker 1>He's a He's Reggie something.

1:44:22.000 --> 1:44:26.519
<v Speaker 9>Reggie watch watch Oh yeah, another late night music director.

1:44:27.720 --> 1:44:32.280
<v Speaker 1>Yes, we need to have the a late night symposium

1:44:32.360 --> 1:44:34.920
<v Speaker 1>with all the Yeah. That would be so yeah, that

1:44:35.000 --> 1:44:42.200
<v Speaker 1>would be dope. Love Fred Armison, right, yes, yes, another drummer.

1:44:47.040 --> 1:44:48.519
<v Speaker 1>Or we like to thank you for being on the show.

1:44:50.120 --> 1:44:50.640
<v Speaker 7>Than you.

1:44:51.120 --> 1:44:55.360
<v Speaker 1>Shout out to you always come back to tonight show.

1:44:55.439 --> 1:44:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Check out John's new album on streaming on Pandora right now.

1:44:59.280 --> 1:45:01.559
<v Speaker 7>Yes, and then go look at the look at the painting.

1:45:02.080 --> 1:45:03.800
<v Speaker 1>I do have a lot of and I do have

1:45:03.880 --> 1:45:05.439
<v Speaker 1>a question of course. Go ahead, Steve.

1:45:06.240 --> 1:45:10.200
<v Speaker 12>You guys have a rehearsal room there, like yeah, yeah,

1:45:10.840 --> 1:45:12.360
<v Speaker 12>it are.

1:45:15.640 --> 1:45:18.800
<v Speaker 14>Seen both so yeah, you know ours it is pretty

1:45:18.880 --> 1:45:21.840
<v Speaker 14>much the same size. Yours is a little Yours is

1:45:21.920 --> 1:45:23.760
<v Speaker 14>better because you have an actual mixing board in there

1:45:23.760 --> 1:45:28.200
<v Speaker 14>and you can record straight into We don't have that

1:45:29.520 --> 1:45:30.840
<v Speaker 14>to get hooked up.

1:45:30.960 --> 1:45:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute, time out, I gotta extend this show

1:45:33.080 --> 1:45:36.360
<v Speaker 1>for three minutes. Wait a minute. You guys do that

1:45:36.520 --> 1:45:40.719
<v Speaker 1>show and don't document any ideas that you have during rehearsal.

1:45:40.880 --> 1:45:44.400
<v Speaker 14>Oh yeah, we do voice memos on the iPhone, you know,

1:45:44.640 --> 1:45:49.240
<v Speaker 14>wow with an organized dropbox system.

1:45:52.240 --> 1:45:58.040
<v Speaker 1>Again technology killing. I'm saying, get a little recording system

1:45:58.520 --> 1:46:02.520
<v Speaker 1>inside your rehearsal room. Yeah, and then you can document.

1:46:03.280 --> 1:46:06.120
<v Speaker 10>See I thought you meant in the office, because I

1:46:06.200 --> 1:46:07.200
<v Speaker 10>have that in the office.

1:46:07.479 --> 1:46:12.160
<v Speaker 1>No, we are. Our dressing room is our studio. We

1:46:12.280 --> 1:46:15.960
<v Speaker 1>made We made Elvis Costell's album inside of that dressing

1:46:16.040 --> 1:46:18.480
<v Speaker 1>room like places in real studios.

1:46:18.680 --> 1:46:22.479
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and always kind of debunked the like it's also

1:46:23.200 --> 1:46:25.400
<v Speaker 7>that's your just one dressing room. There's y'all got like five,

1:46:25.680 --> 1:46:26.760
<v Speaker 7>like I just y'all have.

1:46:26.920 --> 1:46:29.920
<v Speaker 9>It's you we got to It's like it's like a

1:46:30.160 --> 1:46:32.240
<v Speaker 9>gym locker room there, I.

1:46:32.240 --> 1:46:35.679
<v Speaker 10>Mean, because we have we have there's the two dressing rooms,

1:46:35.760 --> 1:46:39.280
<v Speaker 10>and then one of them is the band one half

1:46:39.360 --> 1:46:41.360
<v Speaker 10>of it is the band rehearsal room. And then I

1:46:41.439 --> 1:46:43.519
<v Speaker 10>have the office, but that's on the other side of

1:46:43.560 --> 1:46:46.080
<v Speaker 10>the building. So that's where like the drums and the

1:46:46.120 --> 1:46:50.800
<v Speaker 10>recording equipment are, but in the band area. I never

1:46:50.920 --> 1:46:53.000
<v Speaker 10>thought to put a recording situation.

1:46:53.160 --> 1:46:56.759
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that way, and get you, get you a Steve,

1:46:57.320 --> 1:47:01.280
<v Speaker 1>get you a Steve. And then when you and then

1:47:01.479 --> 1:47:03.800
<v Speaker 1>have a computer on stage where everyone's in here, and

1:47:03.880 --> 1:47:06.000
<v Speaker 1>then oh, yeah, you have.

1:47:06.160 --> 1:47:08.439
<v Speaker 10>That, but we just played the voice memos through it.

1:47:10.400 --> 1:47:14.840
<v Speaker 10>We record the voice and we play them that.

1:47:14.880 --> 1:47:15.879
<v Speaker 1>You don't need an engineer.

1:47:16.520 --> 1:47:17.439
<v Speaker 10>Just let's drop it.

1:47:18.600 --> 1:47:22.200
<v Speaker 7>I'm sorry. Last random question, Can the Roots appear on

1:47:22.360 --> 1:47:25.040
<v Speaker 7>that show? And if you if your album could appear

1:47:25.040 --> 1:47:26.280
<v Speaker 7>on the other show, could you'll ever be on the

1:47:26.320 --> 1:47:26.679
<v Speaker 7>same show?

1:47:27.200 --> 1:47:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Sad we have uh Jon Batiste on the Tonight show.

1:47:31.760 --> 1:47:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Whether there's no who's the new Less Moons of Yes, yeah,

1:47:37.640 --> 1:47:41.519
<v Speaker 1>we don't hang out y'all, y'all y'all country without a president.

1:47:41.880 --> 1:47:46.080
<v Speaker 10>Well you have the step in, but we don't have

1:47:47.240 --> 1:47:48.280
<v Speaker 10>No one has been brought in.

1:47:50.240 --> 1:47:54.080
<v Speaker 1>I definitely know that, uh the Roots aren't welcome to

1:47:54.160 --> 1:47:58.120
<v Speaker 1>anything on CBS, including the Grammys during the Less Moons

1:47:58.160 --> 1:48:02.280
<v Speaker 1>period because the the proximity of the Late Night Wars

1:48:02.439 --> 1:48:03.320
<v Speaker 1>was like a thing.

1:48:03.240 --> 1:48:03.720
<v Speaker 10>In his head.

1:48:03.840 --> 1:48:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, day, I want it, you want it, you

1:48:13.400 --> 1:48:17.320
<v Speaker 1>want it. No, I'm just saying that I have zero qualms.

1:48:17.720 --> 1:48:21.320
<v Speaker 1>And you know, Stephen and Jimmy have done that. They

1:48:21.360 --> 1:48:25.680
<v Speaker 1>did want each other shows before. Oh okay, and to me,

1:48:26.080 --> 1:48:27.760
<v Speaker 1>one of the greatest things, like I would love to

1:48:27.840 --> 1:48:31.280
<v Speaker 1>do in April Fool's Day where it's like both those

1:48:31.320 --> 1:48:36.439
<v Speaker 1>straight they're so stupid, but that would do. Would show

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<v Speaker 1>Remember that Charlie Brown, I think Brown battle.

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<v Speaker 14>That was so we weren't allowed to post that though,

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<v Speaker 14>but maybe we'll take it out of the archives and

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<v Speaker 14>on Instagram, the Late Night War situation.

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<v Speaker 1>He don't like you. I'm sorry, I don't know it was.

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<v Speaker 14>I'm wasn't us to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, don't, I don't.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm not saying to look like I'm supposed to know

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<v Speaker 12>what's going on on the Lord Michael's level.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, this is what happens when executives and lawyers and

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<v Speaker 1>red tapes get involved. Let's take it out of the cool.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a we had a like Lucy Lionis.

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<v Speaker 14>Via text message and it started out, how did it

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<v Speaker 14>start off?

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<v Speaker 1>I think the James or James James.

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<v Speaker 14>So Megan Trainer was on the show promoting the Peanuts

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<v Speaker 14>movie and uh, go.

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<v Speaker 1>Back, wait to look on your face. That was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish the audience could see your face right now,

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<v Speaker 1>all of our viewers. Yeah, John's taking a picture.

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<v Speaker 5>Stories like that's what.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't remember can Train on the Peanuts movie.

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<v Speaker 14>Soundtrack song song on it? But long story short, we

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<v Speaker 14>go back and she texted me and she was like,

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<v Speaker 14>I'm at tonight's show and I used to intern there

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<v Speaker 14>back in two thousand and I don't know something something,

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<v Speaker 14>So she recorded James. Uh or no, I recorded John

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<v Speaker 14>playing the Peanuts theme song on the piano and texted

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<v Speaker 14>over to her. Five minutes later, we get a text

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<v Speaker 14>from James. He's playing it back.

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<v Speaker 7>It looks like black Charlie Brown, a little bit of like.

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<v Speaker 14>He was like, okay, let's go. So John's like, all right, well,

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<v Speaker 14>we got to send one back. So we record John

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<v Speaker 14>and he throws this like bluesy flavor and it's like

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<v Speaker 14>I tried the level up. So then James sends back

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<v Speaker 14>one again and his is even more insane. Than John's

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<v Speaker 14>and we're like, all right, we're stepping it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 14>So we go to the rehearsal room, like, tell the band,

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<v Speaker 14>all right, guys, we're gonna send another video to them.

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<v Speaker 14>We're gonna reveal you when the camera pans around. So

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<v Speaker 14>I got my iPhone. John starts a little intro and

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<v Speaker 14>then then we pan around. The band comes in and

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<v Speaker 14>we're like, all right, we got them, we got them,

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<v Speaker 14>send it back. We send it back, probably about like

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<v Speaker 14>two hours past. We're like, all right, we won Like

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<v Speaker 14>pretty much, they can't.

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<v Speaker 7>They have nothing on us.

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<v Speaker 14>Get a text message and it's a close up of

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<v Speaker 14>a mirror and they're in the studio and they start

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<v Speaker 14>playing the Peanuts theme song.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm pretty sure.

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<v Speaker 14>I'm pretty sure Keith.

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<v Speaker 7>Filmed this or something.

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<v Speaker 14>The phone pans back, the studio is full with the

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<v Speaker 14>audience and they're all doing the Charlie Brown dance and

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<v Speaker 14>this is probably this was about i'd say, two minutes

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<v Speaker 14>before we were supposed to go.

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<v Speaker 1>On stage, and.

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<v Speaker 7>What are we gonna do?

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<v Speaker 2>Then?

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<v Speaker 7>What are we gonna do?

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<v Speaker 14>So we go on stage and you got I don't

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<v Speaker 14>want to say who I thought one. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 14>guys like went around the house and everyone was cheering

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<v Speaker 14>going to.

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<v Speaker 1>March to the audience. I don't know, I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 7>Say I think the Roots.

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<v Speaker 14>The Roots kind of had it down though with the

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<v Speaker 14>Charlie Brown dance in the audience that was that was tight.

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<v Speaker 14>But so we brought it to Steven and we were like,

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<v Speaker 14>we did this thing.

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<v Speaker 7>It was so random.

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<v Speaker 14>It's funny how it turned out, you know, like the

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<v Speaker 14>late night bands are friends, and he was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 14>this is a great idea. Do you know what we

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<v Speaker 14>should do. We should get we should do ours over

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<v Speaker 14>and get everyone to wear Charlie Brown T shirt and

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<v Speaker 14>do something like crazy like that, but then have the

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<v Speaker 14>to have John and the band march out of our

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<v Speaker 14>theater and into the tonight show theater. I joined them

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<v Speaker 14>on stage and make it like a charity thing around Christmas.

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<v Speaker 14>So this is twenty fifteen and.

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<v Speaker 1>Three years of fast.

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<v Speaker 7>We might bring it back Dan, which is dead, which

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<v Speaker 7>is big.

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<v Speaker 10>He's done make it happen.

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<v Speaker 1>We will make it happen. I never knew what happened

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<v Speaker 1>with it.

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<v Speaker 14>I thought, sitting on my computer, wait, but we didn't

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<v Speaker 14>put it.

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<v Speaker 1>On Twitter or Instagram or anything.

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<v Speaker 14>They told us anything with it this Christmas, bring it back.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we shall bring it back. Continue, Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 14>No, it's not late night friendship.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the jokes. Continue always. Mister Rogers was still here.

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<v Speaker 1>Second starter war between me and mister Rogers. Some bloods

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<v Speaker 1>and crips between Street and mister Rogers. Johnny Costa, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>John Costa, Yeah, all right, well on behalf of our

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<v Speaker 1>all questions. Thank you, all right, thank you, John, Patissa

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<v Speaker 1>Amerson don't know this, y on, behalf of Sugar Steve

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<v Speaker 1>and Boss Bill and and and and Boss Bill and

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<v Speaker 1>unpaid Bill. I forgot unpaid bills like I wasn't even here.

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<v Speaker 1>I know and Bill for this week. Yes you are

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<v Speaker 1>overdue Bill. I'm what's Fontcolo? He's not here doing his

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<v Speaker 1>basement or something. He's definitely like Matt finishing the stairway. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well this is quest love of course, Love supreme, and

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<v Speaker 1>we will see you on the next go round. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with I was waiting for purchased all of Kyoto's

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<v Speaker 1>all his scoring music. He it was like a Japanese

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<v Speaker 1>with the roots. Yeah, he said with us, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>forgot that. Yeah, you win. And all we did was

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<v Speaker 1>his songs. Wow, what drink I want to get?

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<v Speaker 10>Yokoshima mourat Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, all right, we're out, We're out, We're out.

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<v Speaker 10>John H.

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