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Speaker 1: Tell me why ice Cube, legendary West Coast rapper was

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Speaker 2: It's the greatest suspension entertainment can naked Wind carry Champion

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Speaker 2: and carry Champion is going to be a champion, a champion,

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Speaker 2: then carry Chappie and a champion and carry Champion then

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to you a new edition of Naked.

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Speaker 1: So glad that you guys are all here. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: enjoy today's episode. We have ice Cube on the show.

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Speaker 1: This is his second appearance on Naked. When I initially

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Speaker 1: It's fair that he's running up against problems. I understand

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Speaker 1: What is your ultimate goal for the Big Three? Are

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Speaker 1: Would you, and we've been talking about this a lot

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Speaker 1: And then one one other question I want to make

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Speaker 3: And there are a lot of NBA owners that want

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, don't go anywhere. Cube has already broken down

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Speaker 1: I also ask what's going on with the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: here is a legendary West Coast rapper Ice Cube. I'm

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Speaker 1: There should be another option if you're if you don't

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Speaker 3: Like I said, you know, it doesn't make sense, and

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Speaker 1: It's fair to say that if you as a black man,

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Speaker 1: Can you tell everybody when the next game is so

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Speaker 3: Yep, Big three dot com. My next game is at

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Speaker 3: Barclays and Brooklyn and this Sunday, and you know, we

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Speaker 3: hip hop. Got submit on New York groups coming through

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Speaker 3: Tony Allen just joined the league, which is great.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations, you're still doing it.

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Speaker 3: Hit barked in and we hit Mett. Yeah, you know

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Speaker 1: So so you've answered this question, but I'm curious. I

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Speaker 1: Tell me why I wasn't You weren't invited to perform.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't invited to perform. I actually had to show

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about the people who want to tell you.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you I felt the way you didn't feel.

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Speaker 1: you do the super Bowl, it will be the ice

436
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Speaker 1: Cube Show. It will be it will be all about

437
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Speaker 1: you and we'll and when you do do it, do

438
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Speaker 1: you bring out anybody? Do you bring out?

439
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 3: Yeah? I'll bring out a few people. You know what

440
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 3: I'm saying, I bring out you know what makes sense?

441
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 3: But yeah, you know, I don't want to jump on

442
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 3: nobody else should the man I'm kind of glad I

443
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 3: was an axe, you know, because I'd rather wait and

444
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 3: do it myself when it's an ice cube show.

445
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Speaker 1: Okay, we'll let this claimate it's done. Then it is done.

446
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: All right, Then I'm there. I'm at that super Bowl.

447
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: Make sure it's warm. Let's get a warm location. I

448
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: want to I asked you about this past weekend. You

449
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: performed the essence and I believe he forty.

450
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 3: Was with you.

451
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 1: Right?

452
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 3: How was that? How does it?

453
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: How does it feel to literally you just mentioned you

454
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: were like you left the group in eighty nine, or

455
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: it's so interesting. How does it feel to be a

456
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 1: pioneer in this game and it's still so very young.

457
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 1: We're celebrating fifty years of hip hop and it's still

458
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: so very young even at fifty. But honestly, a pioneer

459
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: in this game, what are your thoughts?

460
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 3: It feels great, like you know, as a younger, see,

461
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 3: that's where you want to be. You want to be respected, influential,

462
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 3: You want to have a couple of classic hits under

463
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 3: your belt, and you know people give you love and

464
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 3: respect wherever you go. You know this is where you

465
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 3: want to be. So you know, I feel great. It

466
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: could have won a whole different route, a whole different way,

467
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 3: and so definitely better than being a one hittered quitter.

468
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 3: So having longevity and I feel blessed at a very

469
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 3: high level for a long time.

470
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't happen, even in sports, like I say

471
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: what you want about Lebron, like his shape, physical endurance,

472
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: being in his prime for twenty years, it doesn't happen.

473
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: And that is very much the equivalent of your career,

474
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: the longevity, how you've been able to do different things,

475
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: leaning into things that you know are better for you,

476
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: or what you can do here like showing different sides.

477
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: Did you ever think growing up in South Central that

478
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: and maybe you did, but you'd be in movies, you'd

479
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: be this entrepreneur. Did you see this vision?

480
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 3: I mean I dreamed of it. All of this got

481
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 3: you saw all of I mean I got it. No,

482
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 3: I didn't see it. I dreamed of being in a

483
00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 3: position where I could be creative on different levels musically,

484
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 3: you know, I could be as creative as I want

485
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 3: to be. And now movies, which teach you how to

486
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 3: be creative in a three dimensional way, and now sports,

487
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 3: which is creating a stage for great athletes to show

488
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 3: you what they got, you know, so it's uh, it's

489
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 3: all creating and I'm just I just felt blessed that

490
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 3: I wasn't stuck in one area, like I wasn't just

491
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 3: stuck doing records and nobody would know what I have

492
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Speaker 3: to offer movie wise, and people love my movie so

493
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 3: and now sports, I think people love the Big three

494
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 3: letter has something to do in the summer when it's born,

495
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 3: you know, just envision the league as it grow and

496
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 3: we have more games during the week and things like that.

497
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Speaker 3: You know, It's it's sometimes hard to convince people what

498
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 3: you got before they can fully see it. But if

499
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 3: people give you a chance and grow with you, they'll

500
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 3: see exactly what you was talking about. And I'm just

501
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 3: blessed that I'm unable to do that in different areas.

502
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Speaker 1: Congratulations, I'm happy for you as well. I'd love to

503
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Speaker 1: see you thrive, not survive, but thrive.

504
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Speaker 2: Right, Every champion and Kerry Champion is to be a

505
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Speaker 2: champion of Champion and Kerry Chappion and carry Chappy out

506
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Speaker 2: a champion and carry Chappion and Kerry chaffraid is this

507
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Speaker 2: Sportson entertainment can naked wear every Champion and carry Chappion

508
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Speaker 2: is to be a champion of champion and carry Chappie

509
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Speaker 2: and the girl compleaty got a champion and carry Chappion

510
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Speaker 2: and carry Chappy. Afraid is the sporting entertainment cant naked wear?

511
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Speaker 1: What do you think is the biggest misconception about ice cube?

512
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 3: That? I mean.

513
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Speaker 1: Right, because when it's accept I mean shocking. Why would

514
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: people say that because you don't smile? You very get you.

515
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: You could do a half a smile. I see you

516
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: do half a smile one time. But why do they

517
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: think you're mean? Be Could you just mind your business

518
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: and you say to yourself?

519
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 3: Probably because I'm direct and I don't try not to

520
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 3: mince words. Sometimes they they meant because.

521
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: You know, yeah and wait.

522
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 3: But but for the most part, you know, I try

523
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 3: to just be direct and yeah. Some people guess they

524
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 3: like you, yes, yeah, yes, pleasant all the time. I

525
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 3: don't know what the hell it is, you know it

526
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 3: relas you be pleasant. I'm pleasant, but I'm just not,

527
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 3: you know, always chipper, I don't know.

528
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: Schipper doesn't go with your swag. No, no, it doesn't

529
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: go with that. The swag that you have. I don't

530
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: ever see that, Okay, so if you had a choice,

531
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: these are my closing questions for you, and you could go.

532
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: I'm talking about your typical vacation. Would you want to

533
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: go to a city or a beach?

534
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 3: Beach?

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Speaker 1: If you could take one item with you, like one

536
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: thing you cannot live without on this beach, what would

537
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: it be.

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00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 2: On?

539
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: You could take one thing? Yeah, iPad? Because what's on

540
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: your what's on your iPad? That's how you do your business,

541
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: is how you communicate iss your brain has all the

542
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: stuff in there.

543
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know it's it's it's a way

544
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 3: to to enjoy, enjoy your vacation, but still answer them questions.

545
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 3: They need to be answered, you know. So I don't mind.

546
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: You know some people like when I when I go

547
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 3: on vacation, I want to throw everything down. No, I

548
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 3: don't want to wait ten days before I find out,

549
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 3: you know, I mean tell me now, Yeah, I need

550
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 3: to know, you know what I mean? As it happens,

551
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 3: I need a you know, I need a on the

552
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Speaker 3: on the same reporter you need what went? Now?

553
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: How did it happen? I don't want to wait ten

554
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Speaker 1: days for something. I'm using that. That's going to be

555
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: my new quote. I don't want to wait ten days

556
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: if I happened, and then if you My other question

557
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: then would be if you take your iPad and that's

558
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: the one thing you need to you have for you

559
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: so you can respond someone comes to you and says,

560
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Speaker 1: you can only do one thing. You're really great at

561
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: these two things, but you can only do one of

562
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: the two. Would it be rap or would it be act?

563
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: At this stage career? Oh really?

564
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Speaker 3: Oh? All day? Yeah? Because you know I can make

565
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 3: songs how I feel them. Movies are a comedy. You know,

566
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 3: a lot of people that chime in, a lot of

567
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 3: people have to bring their skills and talent to create

568
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 3: one movie. But I could create, you know, three four

569
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 3: songs in a day. If I'm moving, you know I'm rolling.

570
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 3: So I like that that creative freedom, you know, lord

571
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 3: and making movies.

572
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Ice Cube literally a trailblazer in every

573
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: sense of the word, and someone who disbelieves in what

574
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: he believes in and stands by it. Thank you so

575
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: much for joining me on the podcast and taking time

576
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: to explain what's happening with the Big Three. My hope

577
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: is that you get this worked out with Adam Silver.

578
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: But if not someone else comes along and helps you

579
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Speaker 1: build this to where you want.

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00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 3: It to be. Yeah, man, I appreciate it. Thanks for

581
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 3: having me on. I'll come on anytime. The thing is

582
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 3: me and Adam was cool before I started the Big Three.

583
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 3: I bet, I bet. Yeah.

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00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 1: It's like it's like the this when the student becomes

585
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: a teacher. You're like, wait a second, I thought you Okay, now,

586
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: your competition it's it's the name of the game in

587
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 1: every way, in every single way.

588
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 3: No problem, no problem, we not competition. We will we

589
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 3: let's do this together and we don't make something you

590
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 3: want unity in mangus. Yeah, of course, you know the

591
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 3: players wanted to.

592
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Speaker 1: And I don't know why ice Cube would say. People

593
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: think he's mean. It's just shocking, shocking, guy shocking, and

594
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: I'm being sarcastic. That's the sarcasm dripping through my body

595
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: right now. I definitely am afraid of that man. I

596
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: don't know about y'all, but it's nice to hear his perspective,

597
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: and I do. I do want to reiterate that he

598
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: is very clear that he wants to work with Adam Silver.

599
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: There is no beef. He wants to make it a

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Speaker 1: friendly association not necessarily a competition in any form or fashion.

601
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: So this isn't an anti an anti Adam Silver podcast.

602
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: It's just saying, Hey, this is what's going on. I

603
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,959
Speaker 1: want to bring it to the attention of people. Maybe

604
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: somebody can help. Maybe Adam Silver is not seeing it

605
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: my way. Maybe calmer heads will prevail. I don't know

606
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: who knows, but I appreciate him for saying that. At

607
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: the end of the day, he's trying to be a businessman.

608
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: If you will. I want to get into something a

609
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: little more personal, something that happened this past week with

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Speaker 1: affirmative action ruling. Every now and again, I use this

611
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: platform to talk about things that I find completely unfortunate

612
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: in society. But i'd be here all day if I

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00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: did if I didn't do that in a way that

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00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: I felt was smart. So today I'm going to try

615
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: to do that in a smart way. So no affirmative action.

616
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: Supreme Court rules that race cannot be a factor in admissions.

617
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: Race as itself separates you from people, period, so that

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00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. However, they're okay with legacy admissions.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if your parent or grandparents went to a

620
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: certain school, you automatically for the most part, are accepted

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Speaker 1: into that school. That's called a legacy admission. You know,

622
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: if my mom built a building at UCLA, you better

623
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: believe anybody and our family is going to go to

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Speaker 1: UCLA for the rest of their lives because we have

625
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 1: a legacy there. If you will, that's what that means.

626
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: And there are a lot of people who feel like

627
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: affirmative action takes away opportunities for other qualified majority students

628
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 1: and that's just not the case. And I am speaking

629
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Speaker 1: to you as a beneficiary of affirmative action. I went

630
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: to UCLA, and when I was admitted into UCLA, it

631
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: was very clear that standardized testing wasn't on my side.

632
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: I did not do well on the SAT, but there

633
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: are a lot of things that go into that. The

634
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 1: school district that you're in, the preparation that you can

635
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: either pay for or get for free. We obviously could

636
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: not afford to pay for preparation, so I was able

637
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: to take these classes for free that my local high

638
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: school offered. Now, if Tim goes to a high school

639
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: and his parents are doing well and they can give

640
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: him a different type of preparation for the SAT, you

641
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: better believe he's gonna probably do better than me. And

642
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: now I'm not saying Tim should be faulted because his

643
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: parents have money and society has allowed them to flourish

644
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: in a different way than my family. But what I

645
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: am saying is that I'm just as qualified. I just

646
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: need the opportunity to show that I am so. Tim

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Speaker 1: and Carey both enter UCLA. Carrie gets in with the

648
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 1: help of affirmative action, and Tim gets in because you know,

649
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 1: he has great grades and he did great on his SAT.

650
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 1: But Tim and Carey both graduate at the same time.

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Speaker 1: Tim and Carey both go on to be successful. Carrie's

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Speaker 1: arguably more successful, and that is the benefit of affirmative

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Speaker 1: action someone who normally would not get the opportunity based

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Speaker 1: on their circumstances. I cannot be faulted, but this country

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00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: does allow that to happen. I should not be faulted

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00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: for being born into circumstances that are underprivileged. I deserve

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00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: to have an opportunity. I deserve to have the right

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00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: to sit in classes at UCLA, learn and prove that

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Speaker 1: I do belong. Because affirmative action doesn't take your tests

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Speaker 1: for you. Affirmative action doesn't do your exams affirmative action

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00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: doesn't write the many papers that I wrote. Affirmative action

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00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: didn't work the three jobs that I worked during my

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Speaker 1: time in college. Tim didn't have to work. And I'm

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Speaker 1: happy Tim didn't have to work. His parents had money.

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Speaker 1: He didn't have to drive back and forth in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the night from whatever local restaurant he had

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00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 1: to host that so that he could pay for his

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Speaker 1: school books because his parents had money. And I am

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Speaker 1: not faulting Tim, but what I am saying is that

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Speaker 1: a system that doesn't take those things into consideration is unfortunate.

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Speaker 1: We're not asking for a handout, We're just asking for

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Speaker 1: a little help.

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Speaker 3: Up.

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Speaker 1: Hold the door open. Hold it open. I'll walk right

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Speaker 1: on in and I'm gonna kick ass when I get there.

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Speaker 1: I don't need you to do anything else but just

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Speaker 1: hold this door open. I don't need you to give

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Speaker 1: me any money. I don't need you to teach me

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00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: how to read write, or take my or do the

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00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 1: exams for me, or help me or push me through

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00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: school and give me any extra special favor. Support is great, right,

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00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: I would love that, but I don't need it. And

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Speaker 1: thank goodness, affirmative action was in play when I was

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Speaker 1: at UCLA because I would not have had the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to show those who did not believe that I could.

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00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: And so in real time, we are watching our society

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00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: remove very important rights for the marginalized. And I hear

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00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: all the time, and I'm gonna get real real with you, guys, Carrie,

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00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 1: what do you know about that?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 1: You're successful, you have money? You da da da dah. Yeah,

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00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: because I work hard, I absolutely do. But I still

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00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: can't forget what I didn't have, and I still cannot

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00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 1: forget how hard I have worked to get to this point.

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00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: And I still don't forget that when I walk in

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Speaker 1: a room, you see my color before you see me.

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Speaker 1: And unfortunately, because society is not color blind, like the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court would like us to believe, it's always an

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00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: issue in some form or fashion. At this big old age,

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00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: I'm still proving myself this big old age, I have

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00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,959
Speaker 1: to pull out my resume and tell people what I've done.

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Speaker 1: And I don't mind. But what I do mind is

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Speaker 1: closing the door to those who are just asking for

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Speaker 1: a little help in the sense of hold it open,

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Speaker 1: you know how, like the visual of you're racing to

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Speaker 1: get to an appointment, and you want to get on

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Speaker 1: the elevator, and it's only one elevator and it's about

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00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: to close, and you really don't want them to close

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Speaker 1: the elevator because you got to get to this appointment.

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Speaker 1: And someone is kind and generous enough to say, oh, no,

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00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: I got it. And you see this hand come out

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00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: of nowhere and it holds the door open and you

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Speaker 1: hop in and you're like, ooh, that's a relief. I

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00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: gotta get ready for this appointment. I need to be

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Speaker 1: there in thirty seconds. You really helped me out. I

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00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,919
Speaker 1: appreciate you, sir. What does it matter? What does it matter?

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00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: What does it matter that person who helped the elevator

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00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: for you, for me, for whomever, What does it matter

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Speaker 1: to them? In fact, you should feel good about helping somebody.

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Speaker 1: And unfortunately we don't see it that way. Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: anyway doesn't see it that way. Katanji Brown Jackson, Justice

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Speaker 1: Katanji Brown Jackson, let me make sure I get that right.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little too familiar. In her dissent and her

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Speaker 1: message that she wrote, she said, no one benefits from ignorance,

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Speaker 1: and that was an ignorant decision. Affirmative action does not

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Speaker 1: take spots away from people who deserve them. It creates

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00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: more opportunity for those who are overlooked, who are pushed

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Speaker 1: into the corners, the marginalized. It all levels out, it

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00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: really does. No one is coming for your job, if

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00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: it's your job. No one is coming for your college position,

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Speaker 1: if it is yours to have no one And I

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Speaker 1: know some of you don't see it that way. I

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00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 1: know you don't, and that's fine, but we forget what

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Speaker 1: this country was built on. We're not colorblind. We're not

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Speaker 1: we're not biased blind either. So my hope is that

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Speaker 1: if you're listening and you know what's going on with

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Speaker 1: affirmative action, you take some time to reach out to

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Speaker 1: your local congressman, your local senator, whomever represents you if

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00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: you know who that is, and send a note and

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Speaker 1: saying you're willing to participate, you're willing to use your

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00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: platform to talk about the benefits of affirmative action, or

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Speaker 1: how can you help because this is a grassroots effort.

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Speaker 1: I'm off my soapbox. We'll be back next week with

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Speaker 1: another addition of naked truly appreciate you off or listening