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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome into NRG Stadium. Mark Vandamer and

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Speaker 1: John Harris with you day off tomorrow off of the

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Speaker 1: team training camp in Full Bloom. It's been that way

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Speaker 1: for a while. We're a weekend eight days in in total,

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Speaker 1: but seven practice days in. They had a day off

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday, they have a day off Tomorrow's kind of

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Speaker 1: a weird schedule that way. Saturday, another open practice today,

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Speaker 1: surface of the sun. It was back. You want to

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Speaker 1: have camp in Houston? This is what it is. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not sound like I'm teasing. Like how you say

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Speaker 1: that you want to have camp in Houston. You sound

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Speaker 1: like a bitter so bitter that you didn't go to

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Speaker 1: the Greenbrier. Yeah, maybe maybe a little bit, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: not I'm not bitter. I know that did sound worse

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Speaker 1: than it really was meant to sign. But this is

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Speaker 1: camp in Houston today. I mean last week we were

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Speaker 1: joking about how cool it was and it was ninety

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Speaker 1: without a humidity. Today, Oh yeah, this is it, baby.

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Speaker 1: This was camp in all its glory in Houston with

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Speaker 1: no wind at times, I mean zero breeze, searing sun.

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Speaker 1: I felt bad for those guys, one of them ones

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Speaker 1: told me Johnny that hey, we actually have it good

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Speaker 1: because we're doing stuff out here. You guys standing around

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Speaker 1: get hot. I'm thinking, I don't know about that. All right, whatever,

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Speaker 1: you there's something everything, there's something to that. But mother

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Speaker 1: Nature cranked up the volume today and it was it

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Speaker 1: was noticeable. But DeAndre McKinney told somebody coming off the field,

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Speaker 1: I can with somebody in our department like, that's when

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Speaker 1: I bet, Like what or no? Somebody said that it

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Speaker 1: was the worst day and he was like, no, this

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Speaker 1: wasn't the worst day. I was like, it was, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, we might we might not remember and guess what,

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Speaker 1: you know. To his point, here's what happens. Like I

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Speaker 1: always say, in September, the media is not out there

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Speaker 1: for all a price, right, They're practicing in September, and

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Speaker 1: last I checked in September, it's still searing heat out there,

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Speaker 1: and they go out there now they'll try to go

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Speaker 1: into the bubble saw and with the new surfacing and everything,

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Speaker 1: they'll feel better about that gettingbody for some of these games.

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Speaker 1: But you know, it doesn't cool off in Houston until

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Speaker 1: made October, So there might have been a day or

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Speaker 1: two out there where he felt really hot compared to today.

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Speaker 1: It got me, It sat me a little. It was

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Speaker 1: kind of the perfect storm though. It was We're a

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Speaker 1: weekend a training camp, we're getting ready to go to

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Speaker 1: Green Bay, it's a day before a day off. It

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Speaker 1: is that hot and you could tell it. It kind

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Speaker 1: of warned the players. And I think Bill O'Briant cut

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Speaker 1: practice maybe a little bit short. I think it maybe

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Speaker 1: it took out one period to get some situational work

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Speaker 1: But still good work done. But man, it was he

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Speaker 1: made it. It It was a tough one. Johnny. He made

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Speaker 1: a comment today that leads me to believe that he

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Speaker 1: will be a game analyst when his coaching career is finished,

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Speaker 1: because he said, there's a big difference between inside and outside. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm joking around here, but you know how some people

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Speaker 1: tease color commentators for stating the obvious when believe me,

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Speaker 1: doing a game, sometimes that's all you can say. You know,

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Speaker 1: gotta get something going here, like when you're down two

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Speaker 1: touchdowns in the fourth quarter, no question. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: game's not over until it hits all zeros. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what watchson says in our interest, Yeah, I know,

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Speaker 1: but they get his points. Like when he's got the

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Speaker 1: ball in his hand, the game isn't over. And you

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Speaker 1: know he was he had some he had some good

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Speaker 1: moments today in practice. I mean, he is any good,

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Speaker 1: He's he's pretty good. The last the last drill the

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Speaker 1: day was really fun. That was a it was a

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Speaker 1: situational There was a situational part in practice. And Bill said,

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Speaker 1: and I listened to his press conference after I got

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Speaker 1: back up to my office, and he said, and we

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Speaker 1: tried to do some sort of two minute something or

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Speaker 1: other every day, and they did it. They were They

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Speaker 1: drilled the situation they came up with. They were down five,

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Speaker 1: like forty seconds left, no timeouts. You got to score

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Speaker 1: a touchdown. And they had a four play drive and

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Speaker 1: it was efficient. It was lethal. Watson hit Qt came

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Speaker 1: back on the next play, he hit Lamar and Lamar

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Speaker 1: it was perfect. Then they threw to Aikens incomplete, and

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Speaker 1: for tection, and he throws a laser to Hopkins. Laser

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Speaker 1: to Hopkins. He's beautiful, Johnny. He's the eraser because if

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Speaker 1: you do, and we've seen it before, if you do

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Speaker 1: make mistakes on offense, he can help correct them, not

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Speaker 1: have looked had you run it properly. Right, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: find like the one to Aikens in the Philadelphia game

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Speaker 1: always stands out to me. But there's even one in

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Speaker 1: last year, and it was on the Texan special where

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Speaker 1: he rolls right, rolls left, hit somebody for a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: I forget who it was, but the point is Miami,

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Speaker 1: and you see it from O'Brien's perspective, and he's, you know,

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Speaker 1: he just collapsed, like yeah, touchdown, let's go. And I'm thinking, yeah,

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Speaker 1: coaching exactly, because he's joked with us about that before,

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Speaker 1: Like you like that coaching I did on that play

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Speaker 1: to Aikins, That's great, that's great. But that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: You want to design an offense that plays to his

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Speaker 1: ability for him to color outside those lines and make

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Speaker 1: plays that way because he's such a great improvisation artist

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Speaker 1: that it's exactly what you want. You don't want to

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Speaker 1: you don't want to stifle that, and that's you know,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting when I when I think about I actually

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Speaker 1: asked this question to have Davin Bellaman, he didn't have

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Speaker 1: talked a little bit about pass rush, and I asked

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Speaker 1: think about quarterbacking kind of the same way. Is quarterbacking

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Speaker 1: is it more scientific? And I think there's probably levels

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Speaker 1: some times where with DeShawn it's all artists improvisation and

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Speaker 1: it just comes out sounding better than anything you may

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Speaker 1: have been able to scientifically script. I mean, you're talking

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Speaker 1: about them play in Philadelphia. I mean, obviously nobody designed

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Speaker 1: the play to go that way, but he makes that

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Speaker 1: about Deshaun is there have been a few moments. I

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Speaker 1: by that is they would he would drop in the pocket.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it was OTAs two, but it was a training

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Speaker 1: camp as well. Whenever Deshaun, he wouldn't do this for

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Speaker 1: Whenever DeShawn dropped and then he started to scramble, he

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Speaker 1: have to do it in practice. He's he's kind of

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. But that last drow was so so

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Speaker 1: the more that I think about it, and the more

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Speaker 1: want to be more up tempo this year and play

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Speaker 1: at a faster pace. Let's it would be nice. Let's

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Speaker 1: see if they can do it, because it gets so

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Speaker 1: competitive in practice and it's just great to go against

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Speaker 1: this front seven in particular. And Watson called We've mentioned

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Speaker 1: the word annoying several times so far in our broadcasts.

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Speaker 1: He called JJ Watt annoying. He was stripped sacked today.

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Speaker 1: really enjoy taking that. And I can't tell you anything

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Speaker 1: about special teams right now other than they have two

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Speaker 1: putters in camp and fairbaron. Oh, let's knock wood or something, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: don't say it, don't say I can't say it. This

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Speaker 1: is this like a no hitter don't situation. Don't say it.

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Speaker 1: I said, no, hitter. I didn't say anything else. But

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Speaker 1: know exactly what because I asked it's a good thing.

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Speaker 1: I asked weeks the same question. Oh did he say

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Speaker 1: every one, all right. So if we know he's missed one,

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Speaker 1: that's fine. But he missed more than one through seven

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Speaker 1: a big one. He's never missed a must have kick

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Speaker 1: Tennessee Week two last year. It was a fifty plus

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Speaker 1: yarder and he pushed it left. Okay that but but

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Speaker 1: I think later in the year he makes it. I

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Speaker 1: think he got some confidence from those game winning kicks

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Speaker 1: was watching the field goal period. Yes, one was that

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Speaker 1: fifty plus yard or at the end of the half. No,

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Speaker 1: it was in the second at the end, it was

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Speaker 1: in the second quarter. It was in the second. Wait,

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Speaker 1: we drove down and we were in field goal range,

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Speaker 1: and then I think Deshan got sacked pushed his back.

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Speaker 1: That one would have come in hand, and then we

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Speaker 1: that said, I I was watching him kick field goals

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Speaker 1: and then Weeks he came over and he's like, what

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Speaker 1: do you think of the operation? It was like, snaphold,

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Speaker 1: everything's perfect. I mean, those those three were perfect. Well

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Speaker 1: that was interesting, he said, because when I said, I said, Weeks,

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Speaker 1: And I was like really, and he goes, yeah, he

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Speaker 1: calling card. Two hundred twenty pounds. He's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: a guy that just stuffs gaps and stops and run,

426
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Speaker 1: but he's gonna be a guy that flies to the

427
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Speaker 1: football and can do things in coverage. All right, let's

428
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Speaker 1: go outside, now, let's do it all right, Whitney Merciless.

429
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Speaker 1: It's a big year for wit But if the offseason's

430
00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 1: any indication, he was great no tas in mini camps.

431
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,400
Speaker 1: I just see him working against the tackles and there's

432
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Speaker 1: so many different things that I know that he wants

433
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Speaker 1: to unveil, but he'll probably wait. I think it's gonna

434
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 1: be a good week for him in Green Bay, going

435
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Speaker 1: against David Baktieri and Brian blogg Up in Green Bay.

436
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Speaker 1: So I'm excited for wit I'm excited for this year.

437
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,880
Speaker 1: He's not contract year. Everybody knows that, and someone will say, well,

438
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,119
Speaker 1: you know, Cream's not contract year, and he blow Whitney doesn't.

439
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,639
Speaker 1: He's not driven that way. He's driven to succeed no

440
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 1: matter what. But this is gonna be big year for

441
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,359
Speaker 1: him in this defense, and I think he's gonna have

442
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,439
Speaker 1: an opportunity ball out as long as he's healthy. Brannan

443
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,919
Speaker 1: Scarlett already in his fourth year out of Stanford. Another

444
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 1: undrafted guy. Remember when we did those fifteen guys that

445
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 1: were at training camp from the eighty three that are

446
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 1: here from twenty sixteen. He's wonderful. He's one of those guys.

447
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 1: So he's found a way to stick around. He didn't

448
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,199
Speaker 1: last year to start on special teams. He'd sprint on

449
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 1: special teams. You could tell that there was I don't know,

450
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 1: Joy's not the right word, but he wanted to be

451
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,400
Speaker 1: and especially wanted to impact this team, and that led

452
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 1: to reps on defense and inside linebacker that led to

453
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 1: reps and outside linebacker that led to the pick against Washington.

454
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 1: He's indispensable in that way because he's a Swiss Army knife. Hey,

455
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Speaker 1: what do you need? He's somebody a rush. He played

456
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 1: three technique at Stanford three technique and rushed from in there,

457
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:45,919
Speaker 1: so he can do a lot of different things for

458
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Speaker 1: this team. I think his pass rush acumen is not

459
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,679
Speaker 1: quite where you'd like it to be, but I think

460
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 1: he can get there, and he continues to work on it.

461
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 1: He's got some skills, and so I think I think

462
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 1: brand Scarlett him he got you gotta have in this

463
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 1: linebacking corps. Half due. We brought down the D line

464
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Speaker 1: yesterday and Jadevion clowning. We put him in there, and

465
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 1: we're also gonna put him in here and linebackers because

466
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,160
Speaker 1: he plays in the front seven wherever he wants really,

467
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Speaker 1: line back, inside, outside, three technique, stand up, a gap, mugger,

468
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Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. He's I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: we've all seen what Jade does. Just can't wait to

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Speaker 1: get him back. I mean, sometimes if I don't want

471
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Speaker 1: to talk about him, but I know we got few

472
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Speaker 1: other guys to talk about, and I can I can

473
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Speaker 1: place through saying that the players got it wrong. Number

474
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Speaker 1: sixty three. Jad's an animal and he's these wherever you

475
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 1: are playing, all right, he's good. Some of the guys

476
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 1: fans might not know much about we've been talking about them,

477
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Speaker 1: but they're gonna play a lot in these preseason games.

478
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Speaker 1: So you get to look at some of these players

479
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: like Davin Bellamy, who was around last year out of Georgia.

480
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Speaker 1: Good pass rusher there six five two sixty. Yeah, he's

481
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 1: worked on his pass rush game. It's clearly you can

482
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Speaker 1: see it. He's been working with Chuck Smith pass rush specialist,

483
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 1: and he was working with Chuck a little bit, and

484
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 1: Chuck has worked with Jonnick and Gockway. And it was

485
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Speaker 1: funny because I saw Davin us a moviegether Day and

486
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Speaker 1: I was like, yo, what you call that? Where'd you

487
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: get that? He goes, Yeah, I've been working with Chuck.

488
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 1: He's been working for a few years, and so that

489
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,439
Speaker 1: part of this game is pretty good. But it's the

490
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 1: all round stuff. He's got to be able to set

491
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Speaker 1: the edge a little bit better. He's got to be

492
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Speaker 1: a little more discipline the edge you know, not jumping

493
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 1: snaps things like that. Davin Belli, he's got Davin Bellim.

494
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: He's got a lot of talent. It's got to show

495
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: up playing and play out, all right. Jamal Davis has

496
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 1: been making plays. Rookie from akron A ZIP. He transferred

497
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Speaker 1: from pitt right six four two forty. Oh, don't talk

498
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: about him, to keep the secret, Okay, next question. That

499
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: means that he's good. You don't want anybody to know

500
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Speaker 1: about it. Who might want to try to pick him up? Yeah,

501
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 1: Chris Landrum, fourth year out of Jacksonville State. Have you

502
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: noticed him? Where's number forty two out here? The fans

503
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 1: are here, they'll get a look at him. Yeah, he's

504
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 1: He was a guy that got first team reps at

505
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Speaker 1: times and otiers because you didn't have jd um And

506
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: I think Scarlett was banged up a little bit, still

507
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Speaker 1: rehabbing from something, I believe, and so Lanyard got some

508
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Speaker 1: first team reps at times, and he's got some He's

509
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: got some quickness off the edge. Not the biggest guy

510
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: as an outside linebacker, not not real big, and so

511
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: setting the edges is a key thing that he's got

512
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 1: to be able to do a little bit better. Button

513
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 1: can get back to the quarterback. And look, I've talked

514
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 1: to many people around this league, and the one thing

515
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 1: you always tell you you can't have it a pass rusher.

516
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: So if you can get their quarterback, he crows out

517
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Speaker 1: of Green Bay, he's gonna be a guy. He's gonna

518
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,199
Speaker 1: be on a lot of people's right our screens, in

519
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Speaker 1: particular the Texans personnel staff. Who did I forget in

520
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 1: this group? I'm looking, I'm looking. I think we got

521
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Speaker 1: them all? We got them all? All right? Those are

522
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Speaker 1: the linebacker? Did we did it? I did that record? Time?

523
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Speaker 1: You did no good? I did that record? Time's good?

524
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Speaker 1: There It is a review of Texans linebackers. Texans running

525
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: that three four, And it's funny how history changes, but

526
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: it stays the same. The Texans started their history running

527
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Speaker 1: a three four back at H two, and then they

528
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: switched to a four to three when Gary Kubiak came in,

529
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Speaker 1: back to a three four with Wade Phillips joining Kubiak,

530
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Speaker 1: and a different kind of three four with Romeo Cornell,

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Speaker 1: And sometimes it looks it awful lot like a four

532
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Speaker 1: to three. They mix things up, lot of sub packages,

533
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 1: a lot of moving people around, linebackers such an important

534
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,959
Speaker 1: position group because that factor is being into special teams

535
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 1: as well. We always bring up that fourth down stuff,

536
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: but it's so important to the success of an NFL franchise.

537
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Speaker 1: As promised, we will deliver this. Jeff Van Gundy a

538
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: little best of his visit this morning as we talked

539
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: about Russell Westbrook. Of course that came up, but also

540
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: the Texans and Provision, the school of which he is

541
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 1: a part of. It's really special stuff and it's next

542
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Speaker 1: on Texans Radio. Great to have you listening to Texans

543
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: All Access here from NRG Stadium, across the hall from

544
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: the locker room, which is getting kind of quiet now

545
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: because it's the day off of the players tomorrow. They

546
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: got a day off Tuesday, day off tomorrow, and then

547
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: Saturday the open practice. Sunday they'll hit the road for

548
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Speaker 1: Green Bay. It's one week from tonight the preseason opener

549
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: at lambeau Field. You can hear it right here, you

550
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: can see it on ABC thirteen. You can watch it

551
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: on your phone on the app as well. It's gonna

552
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: be cool stuff to stream these games all season long. Now.

553
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: Jeff Van Gundi has been a Houston Texans season ticket

554
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 1: member for a long time, former head coach of the

555
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: Rockets of course the Knicks before that, now with ABC

556
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: and ESPN as the NBA's lead analyst, and he's also

557
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 1: on the board of Provision and Outstanding School doing so

558
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 1: much great work in Sunnyside. So let's visit with him

559
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Speaker 1: some stuff from this morning with JVG Jeff Van Gundi,

560
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: who has been in Houston a long time. He's a Houstonian.

561
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: Sixteen years here. It's amazing how fast it goes, and

562
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 1: just so happy to be here with you guys and

563
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,719
Speaker 1: being able to see the Texans up clothes pretty special. Well,

564
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 1: you get into coaching world sixteen years in any place,

565
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: and I know you're not coaching right now, but you

566
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: get a coaching world. You don't stay any place for three,

567
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: four or five years in certain cases. So it's his home. Oh,

568
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: it's absolutely And I think what influences that is obviously family.

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Speaker 1: But when you find a place that you feel really

570
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 1: comfortable with and your and your children and your your wife,

571
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: like you stay. And so I've been so blessed to

572
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: have found my way to Texas and like you guys said,

573
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,479
Speaker 1: it feels like it is home. Do you feel like

574
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Speaker 1: if you coached again what you've learned as an announcer

575
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: meeting with all these coaches and traveling everywhere and getting

576
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: sort of an inside scoop on these organizations, would that

577
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: help you now? Well, I think anytime you're exposed to

578
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: watching different people how they do it, you definitely learn.

579
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: But I don't think you learned to do something better

580
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: by not doing it. So I think if you if

581
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,239
Speaker 1: you want to be a great coach, you coach, and

582
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: you coach, and you coach, and which I did up

583
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: until you know, I left the Rockets and now going

584
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 1: back and coaching for USA Basketball, that is really where

585
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: you learn. It's like in broadcasting, you didn't learn how

586
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 1: to broadcast by getting reps in some other profession, you

587
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 1: learned to broadcast by doing that. And I think the

588
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: same way with me, Like coaching, you get better doing it. Broadcasting,

589
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: you get better doing it, or you try to get

590
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: better doing it. And so I've just been fortunate to

591
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: have great mentors, both in coaching and broadcasting that have

592
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: taken great care to try to help my career. And

593
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: I think sometimes when you do what we all do,

594
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: thinking that you get there by yourself is foolish. Jeff.

595
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: I've been asked this question a lot because people know

596
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: that I've coached way way back in the day, and

597
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 1: I tell them, the coaching bug never really leaves you.

598
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 1: It's just how much you actually suppress it. Is that

599
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: coaching bug for you still somewhere within you. And that's

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00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: why I've coached with the USA Basketball John. I think,

601
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: like you said, you can't replace the competition and camaraderie

602
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,479
Speaker 1: that come from being a part of a team. And

603
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what role you play with that team,

604
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: but certainly when you're a head coach and every decision

605
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: is magnified, there's nothing like it. And and so you're right,

606
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,479
Speaker 1: it never goes away. You're always gonna miss what you

607
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: don't have. And yet the life is is great and broadcasting.

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00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: I sometimes really miss having the result shape my mood

609
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: either good or bad. Really, yeah, I do, like you know,

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Speaker 1: that's what I get out of being a fan, though

611
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: at some point, like I you know, I always talked,

612
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: I got my group there in uh section one ten,

613
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: row sixteen, right, So we're there and living and dying

614
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: on every play and by the way, not knowing one thing.

615
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: That's going on like why like just yelling and screaming

616
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: everything's a penalty. But um I I love that part

617
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: where you're deeply invested. And that's what I love about

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00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: being a season ticket holder. It doesn't replace, obviously, coaching,

619
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: but it does give you a different feel, you know,

620
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: walking into and walking out of a game. Jeff An

621
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: Gundy with us, what about this team? What about Watson?

622
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Speaker 1: The way things went last year, and your thoughts on

623
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Speaker 1: what might happen this season? You know, I know nothing,

624
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: but I care deeply, and so I was. I said

625
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: in the spring on a playoff game, if we got

626
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: I told Mark Jackson on the air, two offensive linemen,

627
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: two defensive defensive backs, we're gonna win the super Bowl.

628
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: And he was like, you're crazy. I'm not. Like, we

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Speaker 1: have a special quarterback. I think we can have a

630
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Speaker 1: special defense. I think Lamar Miller is gonna have a

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Speaker 1: great year. Health is everything, obviously, but I think we

632
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Speaker 1: have a special team. I know Indianapolis is the trendy picky.

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Speaker 1: I think we're winning it again. Coach, You're not on Twitter,

634
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Speaker 1: as you told us as you walked up here. That

635
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Speaker 1: made Twitter. That made Twitter, Yeah, that made Twitter and

636
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Speaker 1: Twitter We're gonna do anything. Yeah made they made Twitter.

637
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Speaker 1: There were some people that were like, did you even drink?

638
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: Goody said on it. We were like, yeah, agree with you. Like,

639
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: I don't know how you you get a quarterback hit

640
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: less you write other than having a good line, I'm

641
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: not or like whatever you do. I love Bill O'Brien,

642
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: so I love everything about what he stands for, but

643
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: I just want that guy to like, not get hit

644
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: as much, be upright, not get hit as much? Is

645
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: that on him? I don't know football. Should he get

646
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: rid of it quick or some or well a little bit.

647
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: It's just like with everything else. You know, when you

648
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: see when you see a star in basketball not have

649
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: a great game. Sometimes it's not always about him. Sometimes

650
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: the defense is doing some different things to him. Sometimes

651
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: he's had an off night. Sometimes teammates aren't getting him involved.

652
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: It's kind of a combination all things. But it's a

653
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: great question ask because I think automatically you go offensive

654
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: line coach. I went back and watch every sack you

655
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: know about two weeks ago, watch every single one. I

656
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: put about fifty to fifty five percent the offensive line.

657
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: The rest of him. There's a lot of different things

658
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: that go into it. But you're right, Jalvins line had

659
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: to get better. But see that's interesting because for me,

660
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Speaker 1: when you're sitting up in my seats, I don't have

661
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: a clue, just like the other people around me have

662
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: no clue. We just want a good result. But it's

663
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: such an intricate game with eleven people that you really

664
00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: don't know when watching whose responsibility it is. It's funny.

665
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: I love watching you on television. I think you do

666
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: a tremendous job. And I'm not pandering here. I really

667
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: do believe I appreciate. I've always felt that way. And

668
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Speaker 1: it's interesting to me after you play or coach what

669
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Speaker 1: your passion might be. And you have that for broadcasting,

670
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: and I want to transition that into a man who

671
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: played in the NFL and his passion is pro vision

672
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: Royn L. Young and being with that school and being

673
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: at the helm of that school and all it means.

674
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Speaker 1: And I know you're here. You're on the board, right.

675
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm on the board, have been on about nine or

676
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: ten years now, right, And it's a tremendous school and

677
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: Sunnyside and actually the winner of the Texans Care Contest

678
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: presented by Chevron a grand prize of ten thousand dollars

679
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: of donation going that way of provision. Very cool stuff.

680
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: And I know the school does such great work right

681
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: We're we serve the most underserved children in our community.

682
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: Sunnyside obviously is in some it's a it's a difficult

683
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: situation for some of those for most of those children there.

684
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Speaker 1: And when you have a provision a charge school there,

685
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: that's not just a school. We have an urban farm,

686
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: we have mennership programs, we have internship programs, and like

687
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: you mentioned, roy Nell Young has done this his whole

688
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: adult life. After leaving the Philadelphia Eagles, he has spent

689
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: the next thirty near thirty years achieving this for the

690
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: children of Houston. It is a story that should be publicized,

691
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: talked about because he has made such an impact and

692
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: the Texans by running this Texans Care contest. Our children

693
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: have such pride. Our students have had such pride in

694
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: winning this. They'll be here today at practice. I can't

695
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: believe when I moved here the philanthropic nature of the

696
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: Houston community at large, and then the Texans and Chevron

697
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: who sponsored this contest, they're such giving people and ten

698
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: thousand dollars for our community, our school. It goes so far,

699
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Speaker 1: and royn Nell makes sure we're great stewards of every

700
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,719
Speaker 1: dollar that comes into Provision. Coutch, I've heard you just

701
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: now and I've heard you talking about Provision. I've heard

702
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: you talk about the school. I sensed the passion that

703
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: you talk about, you know, a matchup zone. I mean,

704
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: you have a passion for it, just as much as

705
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: you have for basketball. Why is that? What is it

706
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: that and what drives that passion for you to be involved?

707
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: You know, my house is seven miles from Provision, and

708
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: it could it's seven million miles from my experiences. The poverty,

709
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: the children who have to deal with parents that are

710
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: incarcerated and have to move on a consistent basis, just

711
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: the chaos that they navigate on a daily basis and

712
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: are able to become such productive with the help of

713
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: the school, such productive members of our community. I'm so

714
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: proud to be associated. And really my passion. I wish

715
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: I could say when I was the head coach of

716
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: the Rockets, I was involved in all these things. Unfortunately,

717
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: it took me getting fired to find my passion. This

718
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 1: is why I have such respect for organizations and players

719
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: and coaches who while they're in the midst of their career,

720
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: they're doing so much. I should have done more back

721
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: when I was the coach of the Rockets. I regret

722
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: that deeply. But like the Texans, their players, their coaches,

723
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: same with the Rockets Astros. They all do so much

724
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: for so many that are in need. There's a lot

725
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: of need in our community, and our professional teams are

726
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: rising to that challenge. I'm blown away by the staff

727
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: at Provision because royn Al can't do it all by himself,

728
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: and these guys are tremendous. And the kids, it's yes, sir,

729
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: yes ma'am. They're so polite, they're all they're sharp. It's

730
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: really great work being done. It is I always go

731
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: when I take people out there. The thing I like

732
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 1: the most is the urban farm. Here in this food

733
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: desert of Sunnyside. We have this food desert and it's

734
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: this farm. But it's based on aquaponics, which is the

735
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: using of fish to their excreetment to fertilize. So we're

736
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 1: not planning in the ground. We're planning in bed so

737
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: we can have a better growing season. We can do

738
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: it more rapidly and so we provide some food for

739
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: the community. We also are now selling it to places

740
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: like HB Bingi's and restaurants so that we make money

741
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: and have a steady stream of some income. So it's

742
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: it's an amazing thing that's going on there. And I

743
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: always say, if I get somebody on campus out there,

744
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,479
Speaker 1: if I take somebody who's interested in, anybody who wants

745
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: to go, I will give a two or two. When

746
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 1: I get them on campus there they're in. And that's

747
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: what happened to me. I went out there, I met

748
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: Roynell and immediately when I heard his vision, I saw

749
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: the kids and the campus and what they were trying

750
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: to do. I was all in, Yeah, it's hard not

751
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: to be. That is a tremendous place. Je Vision winner

752
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: of the Grand Prize of the Texans Care Contest presented

753
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: by Chevron. There were other winners as well, but pro

754
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: Vision the grand prize winner. Mark. You mentioned that and

755
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: because I think you said this, the kids are gonna

756
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: be out here today. What does it mean for them

757
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: to come out here and see the professional team and

758
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: to see guys like jj U DeShawn Watson. What's that

759
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 1: mean for that group? Well, sometimes again, we can become

760
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: jaded like myself. I bring my kids out here. Oh yeah,

761
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: that's all the Texans, right, because they have these opportunities right. Well,

762
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: when you give opportunity to children and students and people

763
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 1: that haven't experienced that same opportunity, their eyes get widened

764
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: to what they can accomplish. It may not be obviously

765
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: being a professional player, but they're meeting, they're seeing like

766
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: I ran into good friend Greg Grissom, who you know here,

767
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: Why not one of the provision students being the next

768
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: Jamie Roots or Greg Grissom in the business side, or

769
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: being on the personnel side or in the media relations side.

770
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: I just think when you open up their opportunities, they

771
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: see what's out there and what they can accomplish. And

772
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 1: I just think that's so important. And that's why we're

773
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 1: so proud of our association with the Texans, right, because

774
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: they're givers. Like this is an organization obviously that's based

775
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: on results on the field, but off the field, they're

776
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: just a giving type of organization. And we're so proud

777
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: to have been you know the name the winner of

778
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: the Texans Care Challenge. Well, I think there's more on

779
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: the way, so stay tuned. We'll let you know here

780
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: through our Texans media channels. Jeff Van Gundy with us,

781
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 1: we cannot let you go without a couple of basketball

782
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: and so Russell Westbrook joins the Rockets. This is really

783
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,959
Speaker 1: fun stuff. Well, I'm I was a big Chris Paul

784
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: fan and remain I think we could be making a

785
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: mistake saying I know everybody says it's a huge upgrade.

786
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 1: You're overlooking Chris Paul his greatness. And they were prior

787
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: to Paul's injury, they were twenty four minutes away not

788
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: from what going to the finals, but from winning the championship, right,

789
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: and that was just two years ago. Last year Rocky start.

790
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: Then they came back and still the only team they

791
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: couldn't beat was the loaded up Warriors, Right, so now

792
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: everything opens up. I think they would have had a

793
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: great team if they had kept Paul. But they make

794
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: the big move. And I think it's funny because a

795
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: lot of people predict it's either going to work with

796
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: Westbrook and Harden or it's not going to work. And

797
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: I'm in I just like to watch. I can't wait

798
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: to see how it unfolds. I do think and I

799
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: don't know if this is in every sport, but in basketball,

800
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: particularly star players, you've got to get them at the

801
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: right time in their careers where they're willing to sacrifice

802
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: not only with each other, but for the betterment of

803
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: the team. A lot of people in pro basketball talk

804
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 1: about all I care about is winning, but what they

805
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 1: leave off is the dot dot dot. If I get

806
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: my own way right in this case, star players, if

807
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 1: you really want to win, you can't have agendas other

808
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: than winning. And if you can get to that point,

809
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 1: and hopefully Harden is at that point, Westbrook's at that point,

810
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: I think they have enough around them that they can

811
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: compete with anybody. Last year, Jeff, we talked about this,

812
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: this Texas team, the chemistry in the locker room was

813
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: outstanding NBA locker room. How valuable would you say chemistry is,

814
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: because that's been a concern, you know, with Chris and

815
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: with James or something like, oh, maybe the chemistry was off.

816
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: You hear that word a lot. How much are a

817
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: factor do you think that is with not only this team,

818
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 1: but with all NBA teams? Well, don't you think it's

819
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: so hard to define chemistry what it really is? But

820
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: you do know what it is when you see it right,

821
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: and it's not always getting along. It's how you play together. Now,

822
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: I've had teams that necessarily, you know, people always say, oh,

823
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: there are clicks, Well, they're adults. Certain guys are gonna

824
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: like certain guys and just hang out. But it's all

825
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: about what they do on the field or on the floor.

826
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: And I think what I'm going to be interested in

827
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: is it's not how they play together Westbrook and Drant,

828
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: it's how they the whole group plays together. And I

829
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: think it's about on the floor. And it really comes down, dude,

830
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 1: do you willingly share the ball? And will you try

831
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: on every possession on defense? If you do those two things,

832
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: you try like heck on defense and you pass the

833
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: ball willingly, you'll have good chemistry. I knew he was

834
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 1: gonna throw defense in there. I know it, Okay, Jeff,

835
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us. Congratulations on winning the

836
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: contest with Provision, and we look forward to seeing on

837
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: television soon enough. Yeah, hopefully it's gonna be a great

838
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: Texans year and I'll see you guys out at n RG.

839
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 1: That's Jeff Van Gundy and it's fun to hear from him.

840
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: I did a podcast with him last year and he's

841
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: just so outstanding to listen to no matter what he's

842
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 1: talking about. So cool stuff from the former Rockets head coach. Now,

843
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: tomorrow we'll be on from eight to ten am from

844
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: the Hunday Texans Radio Studio. We'll take full inventory of

845
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: the team at eight am and you'll hear from Peter Callum, bye,

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Speaker 1: John McClain, a bunch of folks tomorrow morning, so you

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Speaker 1: don't want to miss that as we continue with our

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Speaker 1: Texans training camp live programming them back tomorrow night at

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Speaker 1: six pm. Want to thank everyone who worked on the show.

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Speaker 1: Go to Houston Texans dot com for videos, stories, all

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Speaker 1: the info from training camp. You will feel like you

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Speaker 1: are there. In the meantime, I have a great night,

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Speaker 1: enjoy the Hall of Fame game, and go Texans.