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My next guest is Reggie 20 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: rock Bitewood. He writes, directs, and serve as the showrunner 21 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: of the new Apple Plus Swagger and his executive producer, 22 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: along time superstar NBA player Kevin Durant and super producer 23 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: Brian Grazer. The Apple Plus series is inspired by Kevin 24 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: Durant's life and basketball experiences. Swigger sports the world of 25 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: youth basketball and the players, the families and coaches who 26 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: walked the fine line between dreams and ambitions and the 27 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: optimism and corruption that goes with sports off the court. 28 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: The show reveals what it's like to grow up in America, 29 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: especially Black America. Reggie's writing started way back with a 30 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: Different World is comedy drama, New York Undercover, Get on 31 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: the Bus, That's what I met him to Notorious just 32 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: the name with f you. This brother can write. The 33 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: new series Swagger will premier globally October twenty nine, with 34 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: the first three episodes, followed by a new episode weekly 35 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: every Friday day after on Apple Plus. Please walk in 36 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversation. For a long time, I've been 37 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: wanting to talk to this brother again. Reggie rock Bythewood, 38 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: How you doing, my friend, I'm really really great. Thank 39 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: you for having me. But first of all Man. Um. 40 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: You know, I'm a fan of Apple Plus. So I 41 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: watched Ted Lasso Apple Apple TV Plus, brother Apple TV Plus, 42 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: Apple TV Plus. I apologize Apple TV Plus. Let me 43 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: get this straight TV plus because you know when when 44 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: you pay your money and I just see the Apple Plus. 45 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: But Apple TV Plus okay? And um, this series? What 46 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 1: brought it about? And uh? And what inspired you to 47 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: do this series? I know Kevin Durant involved, which give 48 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: us a whole lot of credibility to the background and 49 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: the relations of the the authenticity for the series. But 50 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: how did you get involved? Reggie? Um? So, I got 51 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: a call from um Imagine Entertainment, which is a company 52 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: that that that Brian runs with Ron Howard to produce 53 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: their name. Francy Calfol called me up and and and 54 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: let me know that Brian and k D had a 55 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: meeting and they talked about doing a series focus on 56 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: or inspired by his youth basketball days. So they called 57 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: me asked me to meet with him. I flew out. 58 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: At that time k D was in was in um 59 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: it was in Golden State, you know. So I flew 60 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: out to Oakland and met with him, and you know, 61 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: I didn't really know what to what to to think? 62 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: You know what, I liked the guy what I not? 63 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: But it was a real kind of inspiring conversation and 64 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: and he was just very open and shared, um a 65 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: lot of his experiences with me. And I've really just 66 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: started to see this canvas, if you will, that would 67 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: allow me to um take elements of his life and 68 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: bringing other elements, um, some elements from my life, from 69 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: my kids, and sort of things we pulled into research 70 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: and and just just tell a story that we felt 71 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: could be really meaningful, um A story about not just basketball, 72 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: but but but growing up in in America or teen 73 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: life in America, which is a brilliant story by the 74 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: actors that you brought into this, which really is which 75 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: were in the music that plays a major role in 76 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: what you're doing here. Now let's talk about the young 77 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: star Isaiah Isaiah, he'll correctly plays James Carson. Now, I've 78 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: been fortunate to sit down with Kevin Durant, and he 79 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: has a this young man. You seem to have captured 80 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant's personality or temperament in this character. Am I 81 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: wrong in saying that? But it really did kind of 82 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: resonate to the personality of life stock is Kevin was 83 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: raised by a single mom in the basketball cyncric world 84 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: is set in Washington, d C. What Kevin durinis from 85 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: talk about that? Yeah, I mean, look, I think there 86 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: were a couple of things, you know, I was really 87 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,799 Speaker 1: looking for. And I mean this is such a complicated character. 88 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: You know. Number one, the dudes gotta be athletic, and 89 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: so we you know, we have this huge casting search 90 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: and this kid comes in who's not just like dunking, 91 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: like just tipping it in, he's like throwing it back 92 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: and you know, slamming it. Um. But then the other 93 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: thing too was you know he was talented and and 94 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:53,119 Speaker 1: so we um really it was just like blown away 95 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: to be able to find someone who has acting chops 96 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: and basketball chops all in one. It was was was 97 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: it was a gift. And I think that you know, um, 98 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: you know, k D felt challenged to prove that he was, 99 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: you know, like this this top player that he that 100 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: that that he was, and you know, all great athletes, 101 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: you know, feel like they have something to prove. You know. 102 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: The real life Isaiah felt that as well. You know, 103 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: I mean he's played basketball, he understands those challenges. He's 104 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: had his bumps and so he I think he was 105 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: just able to bring that forward and and really played out, 106 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: you know, lovely on screen. We're talking to an incredible writer. Producers, 107 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: show run of the new series on Apple TV plus Swagger, 108 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: Reggie Rock Whitewood. The series is an incredible force as 109 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: far as teen drama, training, romance, Uh, coming of age. Uh. 110 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: This young man we're talking about Isaiah, He's character plays 111 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: and he's plays the character Jah Carster, the fourteen year 112 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: old megastar. I could relate this a little bit of 113 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: my personal life because my nephew, he had a couple 114 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: of songs and I remember he was we were tracking 115 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: him at eighth grade, ninth grade. You know, his song 116 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: was the top point guard in Texas, you know, and 117 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: it's so that was a song, was a top small forward. 118 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: So I know the reality of this, but that what 119 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: I loved about it was how Reggie how is how 120 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: are you incorporating how the world of social media something 121 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: that the real Kevin Durant really didn't have to deal 122 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: with that this kid has to deal with on a 123 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: regular basis, Incorporating that real lifestyle activity, how you can 124 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: be how your life is changed by appoast correct. Yeah, 125 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: I mean social media became an other character in our narrative. 126 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: And and so I mean it's just authentic to the 127 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: way um people in this age group relate to each other. 128 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: You know, yes, you know, and and as we know, 129 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: they are great positives with it and great negatives with it. 130 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: And and as you as you mentioned like, yeah, this 131 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: is a drama that does focus a lot on teens, 132 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: but it's also like really really aspiring to give a 133 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: view from every seat in the house, you know, so 134 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: that we deal with fatherhood, we deal with coaching, we 135 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: deal with parent hood, and so I think that you know, 136 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: if you're if you're a mom, if you're a coach, 137 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: if you're a dad, um, if you're a child, Like, 138 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: there's something that's going to pull it you emotionally. We'll 139 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 1: read here. First of all, I don't want to sell 140 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: you serious short because I'm we're gonna we got from 141 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: middle tag, because I'm gonna go to O'shan, I'm gonna 142 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: talk to Gina, I'm gonna talk to these character breakdowns 143 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: to have so much layers, but those kids would brought 144 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: me in and I'm gonna just saying I really would 145 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: I get up every day at four thirty am. All right, 146 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: I saw five straight episodes because each episode kept me, 147 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: kept me kept five. My wife looked at me, said, 148 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: it's one thirty in the morning. I said, okay, okay, 149 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to bed. I'm gonna go to be 150 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: Let gonna go to bed, because soon as I wrap 151 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: up this interview, I'm gonna go screen the rest of them. 152 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: I noticed she was premieres October twenty nine. It will 153 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: premiere with three episodes in a row, and when you 154 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: get to that third episode, you will be hooked in 155 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: this series. Please take the time to watch consecutively series 156 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: and after that it will air every Friday. What Reggie 157 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: has put together is um is uh you. Gina who 158 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: plays the mom Jason's mom, Joanna who plays Jason's mom, 159 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: very dominant character, very opinionated. She knows what she wants, 160 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: she knows what she sees in the son. Her expectations 161 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: maybe overreaching, and her advice and to how he should 162 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: play shouldn't be something he should be following. But that's 163 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 1: what the comment of age part of the writing is 164 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: all about, correct, Reggie, Yeah, I mean you know. And 165 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: here's a crazy thing, right, Like it's like when you 166 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: have a kid that talented, Yes, there's still a whole 167 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: bunch of questions in terms of like you know, here 168 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: he or she is gonna go, And it really becomes 169 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: like this coming of age for with the kid, for 170 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 1: the parents. Like it's just it's it's so complicated, it's 171 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: so challenging to you know, you you sort of wish 172 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 1: we all had a crystal ball and knew where their 173 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: kid was was gonna go. But you know, on the 174 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: whole other level, man, you know, um, a lot of 175 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: times we pushed our kids. Yes, sometimes we have to. 176 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: And you know, if we do it wrong, it's a negative, 177 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: and if we do it right, it's a positive. Right. 178 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: I know, my daughter was a tennis prodigy, you know, 179 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: my my wife she was you know, she was really 180 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: a lot more aggressive than I was, which is her role. 181 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: We all play roses parents, you know. And I always 182 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: felt my daughter was talented at it what she did, 183 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: but that was what she wanted to do. Now she's 184 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: in the type wando And I told my wife, don't 185 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: be disappointed. That's not what she wants to do. That's 186 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: not her end game. You know, she blew out our 187 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: knee when she was an eighteen and she asked me 188 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: that she wanted to go to college because you go 189 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: to college, So yes, do whoever your dreams are. And 190 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: that's what this young man is learning and his and 191 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: his best friend, who we see the relationship going. I'm 192 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: talking about Crystal, and that's another storyline I'm not gonna 193 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: get into any detail on because it should be seen 194 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: and you should see the development of her character in 195 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: the series. But also it's it's it's kind of a romance, 196 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: but their friends their friends, they're die hard friends. And 197 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: what you learn in this series, Reggie, if I could 198 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: be so bold to say this, is that you learn 199 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 1: to listen. You learn to listen with people are trying 200 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: to talk to you. That was a big part of 201 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 1: this whole first five episodes that I heard screaming at 202 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: me people when they talk, take the time to hear 203 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: and not talk, and so much talk about your problems. 204 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: But other people have problems too, and you should learn 205 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 1: to hear their problems, especially when they're coming to you 206 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: to talk. Those strong language in this in this series 207 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: so far, well, but I mean it feels like that's 208 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: a lost art and it's kind you're right right, like listening, 209 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: you know, like like like really listening, like really trying 210 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: to understand where somebody else is coming from, you know. 211 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: But I see other great thing about having a platform 212 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: like this to be able to give insight, to to 213 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: bring people into you know, various characters and and see 214 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: and you know, um so much. You know that the 215 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: show is called Swagger, you know, and and so you know, 216 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: obviously on the surface that's like barbato and confidence, but 217 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: really underneath all of that swaggers wou having a cause 218 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: bigger than yourself, right, And so whether you your causes, 219 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: your people, your family, your team, having that cause bigger 220 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: than yourself, um, really gives you that sense of purpose, 221 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: that that grid, that determination to move closer to your 222 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: your dreams and you and your calling. 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This is ras Sean McDonald. 261 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Money Making Conversations as I continue my 262 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: conversation with the creator, writer, and executive producer of the 263 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: new Apple TV Plus series Swagger, Reggie rock Bitewood. Now 264 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go into oh Jackson's character. You know, he 265 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: plays Icon, a character who didn't reach, who had great 266 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: basketball potential but didn't reach the potential. And when you 267 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: stay reach the potential, the NBA is the goal. The 268 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: NBA is the ultimate goal of anybody who puts on 269 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: those sneakers and gets on that hard court and try 270 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: to imagine they're the next Michael Jordan, the next Scareem 271 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: Abdul Jabbard, the next Lebron James today or next k D. 272 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: Because KD six and eleven seven feet tall and dribbled 273 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: like a six point six ft point guard and you 274 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: like Steph Kurr on the given to any given day, 275 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: but dunk like Lebron. So that's to be to have 276 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: a show about that, there had to be some additional pressure, Reggie, 277 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: knowing that you this is when the regular superstar. There 278 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: wasn't a guy who who's a marginal player or just 279 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: a good player. K D can probably go down in 280 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: history as one of the all top five all time players. Here, 281 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: you ain't having a room. And to create a scripted 282 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: series that has to retain a level of credibility. And 283 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: you do, my friend, because we're gonna get into these 284 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: action shots. Because I was like blown away by these 285 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: these I'll tell you how something when you when you 286 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: watch TV, watch Reggie do his work, his his his magic, 287 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: and you see a shot that don't have jump cuts 288 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: in him, and I'm going, Okay, that's a real shot 289 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: from the corner. When Nick Mindez hits his first three 290 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: pointer at the top of the I go, that's a 291 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: real shots. That's it, I said, I said, I said, 292 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: I said, Reggie, Reggie, my born as man. How How 293 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: how you pulling that off? Bro? How many? First of all, 294 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: you know, first of all, though you started talking about 295 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: the pressure, we just say so creatively, what I wanted 296 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: to do was have the basketball feel real. So it 297 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: actually alleviated pressure as the network and everybody, yeah, we 298 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: gotta be like, you know, it's gotta be real, it's 299 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: gonna be kevin. So so we cast actors someone who 300 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: had really played ball before. But we were able to, like, like, 301 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's so rare to be able to cast 302 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: somebody and give them like three months of training, like 303 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: multiple days throughout the week, hours and hours upon a 304 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: day to learn how to become a baller. And then 305 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: we had our ballers who then had a lot of 306 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: time to work with acting coaches. So just that alone, um, 307 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: it alleviated pressure because it allowed me to then have 308 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: like a real process where everybody knew the basketball needed 309 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,719 Speaker 1: to be in a high level. Um and you know, 310 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: look there was choreography and training sessions, but I mean 311 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: they just came and they and it was like, I mean, 312 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: you know, it was a luxury, like like the kids 313 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: wanted to do it, you know, like they were like, yo, 314 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: I'm in some of it. Some of it, you know, 315 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: it was from a choreographer and a trainer, but some 316 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: of it was them let me tell you what I 317 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: can do. And all we had to do was photographic. 318 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: Oh my beauty, beautiful. There's some questions here, uh that 319 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: that the hoop? It was a ten foot hoop. He 320 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: played in the foot ten foot ten foot hoop and 321 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 1: somebody's dunking. They know they're not jumping off from a 322 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: trampoline cables. That's it? Okay? How tall as a as 323 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: Asa here plays? James Carson. I think he's like because 324 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: he could leap man. Yeah yeah, I think he's six 325 00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: three or six four six three six three someone in there. 326 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: That young man. He has some elevation now. He and 327 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: his acting skills are on point. He has to career 328 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: in this business. Good looking kid, Oh, Shan Jackson, I 329 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: can't yeah, um, all the you know, oh had multiple 330 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 1: scenes where we were dunking. But he didn't make the 331 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: cut man, Well, well, I know he didn't make up, 332 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: but he could shoot. Let let's talk about this shooting though, 333 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: because I was impressed. I was impressed. Hey, let me 334 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: tell you something in that game and a pilot where 335 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: they're going one on one, dude, many shot wasn't supposed 336 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: to make people shown off. I just kept the cameras 337 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: wing and I was like, let him go. You're lying, dude, dude, 338 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: because I'm looking at saying when I said, because I 339 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: had these little checkpoints, I said, rim height, you see 340 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 1: his ten feet not nine? You said he made all 341 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: the ships to tell I mean, because there's a lot 342 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: of basketball. Come on, there's a lot of basketball shows 343 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: where you see somebody dunking and you know that's eight 344 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 1: ft nine ft. So that was really important for the 345 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: We didn't want to do that, you know, we really 346 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: wanted it to look and and some people would get by, 347 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: but there's people like you that you can smell it 348 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: if it's not real. Well, first of all, that's what 349 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: it pressed me the most. I'm gonna tell you. So, 350 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: I love my sleep when I get it. I don't 351 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: like getting up at four thirty for so you know, Reggie, 352 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: I love you, don Reggie, I don't love you that much. 353 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: But when a series, I'm looking at it because my 354 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 1: wife was sitting right next to me. She was in 355 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: factually she was cooking in the kitchen when we started, 356 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: and next by episode two she was sitting right next 357 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: to me engaged in the series. Like I said, it's 358 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: a series that they're about basketball, so many layers about life, 359 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: about parenting, about how you know, she could relate to 360 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: it because our daughter, you know, it was a prodigy, 361 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:52,479 Speaker 1: like like Jason, like like the character being played out here, 362 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: being pulled in so many directions going to private camps 363 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: were recruited, and so it was very relatable to what 364 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: we deal with today because that's all you see nowadays, 365 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: and that with name, likeness and imagery that you can 366 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: pay for and kids can get the money they used 367 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: to hide to get nowadays. But the whole layers are 368 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: putting all these characters together, that was a lot of work. 369 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: How did you really start projecting each role, the ness, 370 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: the the I should say, the the bad guys, the 371 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: good guys, the the layers. A lot of hard work 372 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: winded too. This Reggie, how did you pull it off? 373 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I mean again having this mandate 374 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: of you know, this, this self imposed mandate of having 375 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 1: a view from every seat in the house. Um, and 376 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: a lot of research, spoke with a lot of people, 377 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: and really, you know, much of my work and the 378 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: writing process also starts with like really putting together a 379 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: really great writers wrong yea, so um, you know, in particular, 380 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: one of my writers, guy named George Dorman, wrote this book, 381 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: really good book called um, they Play their Hearts Out 382 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: and it follows a youth basketball team. Um. It was 383 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 1: very important for me to have some incredible black women 384 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: in my writer's room. Um. And and directing as well, right, 385 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: and directing as well, and and and directing as well 386 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: Nigel and mean you haven't seen her, so when you 387 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: go back, you're gonna see Nigel is the one that 388 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: Nigel is directed, which is one oh six, you know. 389 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: And and so you know, when you have a room 390 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: like that, it's really great and inspiring because we're challenging 391 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: each other, we're challenging other people's points of view, we're 392 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: bringing in our real life experiences. And in a room 393 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: like that, like I never say, like you don't. You 394 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: don't create a room like that because it's politically correct. 395 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: You create a room like that because it gives you 396 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: the best product. Wow, I just want to say this 397 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: about the show. Um, the credibility of the show is amazing. 398 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: The Meg's role, who plays his business partner, Ocean's business 399 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 1: Cavil Hooges Icon Uh, David his role as the NBA 400 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: star who aid it? Who Who's Who's Who's has an 401 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: issue with Icon? All these layers, like you were saying earlier, 402 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: And that's what I wanna say. I just wanted to 403 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 1: start with the kids because that's the core of this 404 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: that's the that's the part that that that's the innocence 405 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: of the series. Are the children, are the teenagers? Because 406 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: you have all these adults who have agendas from his 407 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: mother has an agenda, O'Shea is the in denial, but 408 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: he has an agenda. Davis has an agenda. Uh, the 409 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: the guy from the Gladiators, he has an agenda. All 410 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: tied back to the reality what you've you're showing us, Reggie, 411 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: this is happening right now. This is real life. This 412 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: is not something you're making up. And to be able 413 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: to pull that off and then it's almost tragic because 414 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,719 Speaker 1: how do we pull these kids out of it? Oh? 415 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: Is there a train that we can't control anymore? And 416 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: you just capturing it, put it on paper, allowing us 417 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: to see a version of it. Well, you know, first 418 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: of all, let me just say something, but what you 419 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: talk about with innocence? Right, so you know our most 420 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: to our characters, and as these kids are fourteen years old, 421 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: and so we know fourteen has some historical context, you 422 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: know within the black community, right. Um. You know Emmett 423 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: till fourteen years old August, you know, I'm murdered, and 424 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: you know that's still reverber rates within our community, you know, 425 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: all these years later, right? Um? And I saw this 426 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: painting by this amazing artist named Lisa Whittington. She did 427 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: this painting called um there was about emmettail and it 428 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: was called um how let me see if I get 429 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: the title right, Lisa, If I mess up the name 430 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: of your art, I apologize. But it was how she 431 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: sent him and how she got him back. And in 432 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: this painting you see half of Emmett's face that's innocent 433 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: and a vibrant and all these vibrant colors around him, 434 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: Like what we were calling our show Emmet blue and 435 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: Emmett yellow, and on the other side of his face 436 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: it's mutilated. It's you know, with you know, you know 437 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: the way the way the space was and it was 438 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: beaten down. But we use her painting many ways. It's inspiration. 439 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: And really, you know, when I would talk to everyone 440 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: about what we're doing, we were like, this innocence is 441 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: what we're fighting for for our characters. We want this 442 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: sort of innocence. Our coaches, they're fighting for our kids 443 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: and maintain this innocence. And the flip side of it 444 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: is that you're on the other side of it, you know, 445 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 1: and so um, there's so much of the of the 446 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 1: of the sister's work, you know, like I said, we 447 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: you know it was it was actually a template for 448 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: our color palette, you know, Emmitt Blue, Emmett yellow, like 449 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: all these sort of colors and our artwork inspired us. 450 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: And so the innocence versus the other side of it 451 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: was it was something that we really spent a lot 452 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: of time talking about. My brother. Outstanding of talking to 453 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: Reggie rock Brightwood Swagger. Apple TV Plus premieres October twenty nine. Three. 454 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: Episode will air that night after that is one episode 455 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: weekly every Friday. There after. An incredible series are Coming 456 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: of Age series adults are inspired by NBA superstar Kevin 457 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: Durant's life and experiences in the Washington, D c. Area. 458 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: And then closing, you got the Yankee had on? You know? Uh? 459 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: And I don't you know stephen A. Smith? She was, 460 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: Oh no, never bring the stephen A. Smith. Okay, you 461 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: know that's why. That's what I'm managed. And he's a 462 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,719 Speaker 1: superstar Yankee fan just like you. When the Yankees make 463 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: a callback, I keep asking him. Then when y'all come back, 464 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna wrap up the end of view. 465 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: I got one minute left. It's your it's your moment 466 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: to say the Yankees, sir. Yeah, well, I mean you know, 467 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: the Yankees have championships, more championships than any other professional team. 468 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: So what's your team? Brother? Oh, Houston Astros? Okay, um um? 469 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: How how how are we gonna do this year? We're 470 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna play it, honestly this year. What we're 471 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: gonna do, We're gonna try and win this ship. What 472 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: we what we're gonna do because you know, you know, 473 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: now I see where the Yankee things come from because 474 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: of what y'all how to do to to beat the Yankees. Man, 475 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: we really want to talk about that. But here's a conflict, 476 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: right because now, who do I root for? A might 477 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: rooting for the Astros? Are my rooting for the Red Sox. Absolutely, 478 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: that's say so, you know so that's that's that's a 479 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: that's a tough one. But I do like the Astros, 480 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: but Yankees will always be back Man. 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