Speaker 1: Real, real celebrity joined the Breakfast Morning. Everybody is DJ
Speaker 1: Envy angela Ye, Charlomagne the God. We all the Breakfast
Speaker 1: Club special guests in the building. Mister Bill Duke, you know,
Speaker 1: you know how many times do you hear that? Every day?
Speaker 1: Ten times a day. I actually happened to say that
Speaker 1: to Envy previously this morning, this morning. He didn't lie
Speaker 1: about something. Got to say it for us one time. Okay,
Speaker 1: you said you taste had the bottle of beer at
Speaker 1: what time? Now? You know you read that in that
Speaker 1: script years ago in Minute to Society. Did you know
Speaker 1: it was gonna be as iconic? You never never, never ever?
Speaker 1: He was brothers, great, great, great directors, man, and they
Speaker 1: kind of give you the freedom to as an actor,
Speaker 1: to do it. So you come up with the feeling,
Speaker 1: You come up with what you feel based in the
Speaker 1: words they've written. And you still look the same now
Speaker 1: as you do then. Oh, man, I wish my knees
Speaker 1: felt that way. You always got a very present man.
Speaker 1: I know, I don't know. I guess you know, big
Speaker 1: black man, you know what I mean? In America? You
Speaker 1: always look I guess two, no, look good. I don't
Speaker 1: know what supposed to look like. But you look great, right,
Speaker 1: don't crack when you did minutes you was in your forties,
Speaker 1: late thirties. I think late thirties, late forties. Yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: many moons ago. Man, So what do you do? Do
Speaker 1: you work out? Do you drinkie green juice? Secret? Um?
Speaker 1: I was five days week. I'm vegan. Um. I work
Speaker 1: out three times a week with a trainer, and I
Speaker 1: go to beakrom yoga. Yea oh man, it's rough, but
Speaker 1: I love it. But I meditate every day, Chancellor meditation.
Speaker 1: I'm doing that since, oh, in the seventies. Man, So
Speaker 1: meditation really saves my life every day. Really, when you
Speaker 1: say five days of weeks, I mean two days a week.
Speaker 1: You eat meat if you want to a fish. I
Speaker 1: eat a little fish or chicken because strength wise, I
Speaker 1: want to some of the proteins that get on the vegetables.
Speaker 1: Was good, but sometimes ate some fish. I feel stronger.
Speaker 1: Got you all right? Well, let's talk about these documentary
Speaker 1: Dark Girls and Light Girls. I was in the Light
Speaker 1: Girls documentary that you did. You did a very good job,
Speaker 1: by the way, and that actually was all over the place.
Speaker 1: A lot of things like Amber Rose her her part
Speaker 1: of that movie. That documentary was everywhere. When she said
Speaker 1: that her family had issues with her being with Whiz
Speaker 1: Khalifa because he's black, and you know, they had a
Speaker 1: problem with that son show for a wedding, that's yeah,
Speaker 1: that's absolutely And I was saying the same thing about
Speaker 1: in my family. You know, I'm half Chinese and half Flack,
Speaker 1: and that was an issue for the Chinese side of
Speaker 1: my family too, you know, to not they didn't come
Speaker 1: to my parents' wedding for the same reason. But um,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of flack I got when I
Speaker 1: posted on Instagram, okay, make sure you check out you know,
Speaker 1: La Girl's documentaries coming on tomorrow night. We were promoting
Speaker 1: it and people got into arguments on my Instagram over that,
Speaker 1: like why would you make such a divisive documentary? Why
Speaker 1: people were saying things like this because they couldn't put
Speaker 1: it into perspective. There was a Dark Girl's documentary that
Speaker 1: came out first, and let's talk about why you felt
Speaker 1: they need to do that one. Well, because pain has
Speaker 1: no color. On the assumption is because your dark skin
Speaker 1: you have pain, but light skin people don't have no pain.
Speaker 1: The truth of the matter is is that our internal
Speaker 1: racism is still alive, and we are still putting each
Speaker 1: other down and making jokes about each other because of
Speaker 1: the color of our skin. And with women particularly it's
Speaker 1: it's difficult because the beauty business says, if you don't
Speaker 1: look a certain way, God made a mistake, and so
Speaker 1: we're going to give you cosmetics and stuff and and
Speaker 1: give you lengthen your hair with extensions and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Then we have to think with skin bleach, which is
Speaker 1: globally a fifty billion dollar business, right, really, this is globally, man.
Speaker 1: I wasn't gone to Africa man last year, man, and
Speaker 1: on a number one polics here was skin bleached. When
Speaker 1: I say, I mean liaching the whole body. I need
Speaker 1: to get in on that sense everybody think I'm doing now.
Speaker 1: Everybody thinks that Charlotte because everyone says that he's bleaching
Speaker 1: his skin because he said he had some skin discoloration.
Speaker 1: You can see it. He went to he went to
Speaker 1: go see a germatologist. And now when people see him,
Speaker 1: he visibly looks lighter in pictures and all the time,
Speaker 1: like Charletagne's bleaching his skin. He hates himself, you know.
Speaker 1: So on and so forth. Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1: You know, what do you do when somebody or how
Speaker 1: do you handle when somebody makes fun of your skin color?
Speaker 1: Because he's visibly babe goes on every day, every day,
Speaker 1: every day waffle color. Oh my god, what else do
Speaker 1: you call me? I call you princess boy. And then
Speaker 1: you never called me that you ever worked with a
Speaker 1: light skin guy. Of course you have right, everybody many
Speaker 1: with everybody. Man, they could be a little difficult. Are
Speaker 1: you saying that you have evidence of that? Yes, this
Speaker 1: guy now trying to under the impression that because Envy
Speaker 1: is light skin, he's more sensitive, more emotional, more emotional
Speaker 1: than the average person. He does. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's because of the color of his thing. He is
Speaker 1: the most sensitive one in the room, but I don't
Speaker 1: actually say that that's why. And then Envy and return
Speaker 1: cost made a big black bully and I ain't even big,
Speaker 1: but because I'm dog skin, I gotta be big and
Speaker 1: black and a bully. So I'm so glad you're here
Speaker 1: to shed some light on these issues that we have
Speaker 1: every day in the studio. Well, uh, no, pun intendive,
Speaker 1: but I'd like to shed some light on the issue
Speaker 1: because you haven't done light skin boy versus dogskin Boy.
Speaker 1: I think it's more you two are inspiring me to
Speaker 1: make that movie right now. Remember, and y'all, y'all should
Speaker 1: be starring at it, you know what I'm saying. But no,
Speaker 1: I think it's an issue internally, and I know we're
Speaker 1: joking about it. But then the thing is is that
Speaker 1: a lot of children are suffering from this, you know,
Speaker 1: on the plague. You know, they're being bullied either their
Speaker 1: their their their the kinky hair you look like a
Speaker 1: tar baby, uh, and little girls being calling tar babies,
Speaker 1: and light skinned girls are being taken into bathrooms held
Speaker 1: down and theirs being put in their hair and they're
Speaker 1: pulling the hair out by the roots slice of course,
Speaker 1: the neckan's face sliced and ear rings pulled through their
Speaker 1: It looks that people think they think they're too cute.
Speaker 1: It's madness, and I think if we could. My belief
Speaker 1: is we can cure our internal rifts that no one
Speaker 1: can touch us from the outside. But until we learn
Speaker 1: to heal that. You know, here's the ironic thing. Well,
Speaker 1: light skinned and dark skinned women are bickering about skin color.
Speaker 1: White females are going to tanning s allonspice twice twice
Speaker 1: a week, crinkling their hair, getting butt lips, lifts and injections.
Speaker 1: Don't you find out a little a little ironic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like they planted the seed to make us think
Speaker 1: that what we naturally have is bad. But that's there,
Speaker 1: you go. We all give with each other. Like we
Speaker 1: talk about my wife. My wife is light skin. She
Speaker 1: got cut in the face and by a dog skinned girl,
Speaker 1: and they called her casper, and they called her white goals.
Speaker 1: And you know, it's a problem with her own community.
Speaker 1: You know, at the end of the day, we're all black,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, There's only one race man,
Speaker 1: the human race, you know, and we all why are
Speaker 1: you laughing for? You're just crazy man, right, I'm telling
Speaker 1: you it's very difficult every day. But m yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that's why I was saying. And he did have an issue.
Speaker 1: You know, his wife did get her face cut because
Speaker 1: of the color of her skin, basically, and people do
Speaker 1: automatically assume, Oh, she thinks she's cute, she thinks she's better.
Speaker 1: Where did these stereotypes come from? No? I mean I
Speaker 1: even think of a movie like New Jack City when
Speaker 1: Nino who was dog skin stabbed Christopher Williams character in
Speaker 1: the Hand. I never liked you anywhere. You pretty mother
Speaker 1: who said lightskin people were pretty. All light skin girls
Speaker 1: ain't pretty. And people would say things like, oh, you
Speaker 1: know he wasn't light skin, she wouldn't be cute. People
Speaker 1: say stuff like, hey, light skin, peak got good here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well it goes back to neo colonialism. You know. Once
Speaker 1: we were slaves and the ruler was white. Uh, and um,
Speaker 1: everybody wants to be like the person in power. And
Speaker 1: so the lighter skin slaves right in the house because
Speaker 1: they the master had sex with the female slaves. They
Speaker 1: were ladder and he took better care of them than
Speaker 1: he do. You know, do you know that the brown
Speaker 1: paper bag test? Here's what's crazy, man. Somebody just did
Speaker 1: that this morning with Tyrese. You know, you know you
Speaker 1: know that. Uh, until the forties and fifties on the church,
Speaker 1: certain churches, there was a brown paper bag nailed to
Speaker 1: the church door. Wow, if your skin was darker than
Speaker 1: the brown paper bag, couldn't go to church. Wow, that
Speaker 1: wouldn't be allowed. The church is that deep even you'd
Speaker 1: be that is absolutely that's crazy. But that's that's to
Speaker 1: the alley that we've faced and today it's still going
Speaker 1: on when I travel um one of them. It's not funny,
Speaker 1: but one of the biggest consumers of skin bleach is
Speaker 1: Indian and Indian men. And because if your skin is
Speaker 1: lighter in the Indian culture means you're working in the
Speaker 1: office because you haven't got to the sun. If it's dark,
Speaker 1: it means you're work in the field. So Indian women
Speaker 1: want lighter men because it means they have better jobs
Speaker 1: for the house. Negro field negrontality is even an Indian
Speaker 1: go Yeah, and then are bleaching the whole facing and
Speaker 1: the whole bodies. Wow, that's toxic. Do I look like
Speaker 1: I'm bleaching? No? After he does, but I didn't know him.
Speaker 1: I think he was, but he had to be because
Speaker 1: its entire bodies. This tam caused his face. Duh, thank
Speaker 1: you mister Duke for shedding somebody. Yeah, he had this
Speaker 1: coloration on it around his eyes looked like a rack
Speaker 1: home when it was how do you have it was
Speaker 1: so dark? Now he's talk about the dark stuck goes Iraq.
Speaker 1: Does this happen every day? Somebody? Absolutely? It's healing up
Speaker 1: in here. You know what I mean. I want to
Speaker 1: ask you about this article that a TV editor road
Speaker 1: on deadline dot com. She said that ethnic diversity. She
Speaker 1: said that the pendulum may be swinging too far and
Speaker 1: that too many minorities and ethnic people are getting these
Speaker 1: roles and white people can't get roles now because they're
Speaker 1: purposely making these roles for ethnic people. Well, we're still
Speaker 1: looking for forty acres in the mule. Maybe this is
Speaker 1: it coming you know what I mean. Did you get
Speaker 1: your forty acres? You get your Maybe it's my forty
Speaker 1: acres of the mule coming out. I mean, it's like,
Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is, man, is that percentage
Speaker 1: wise if you look at the number of television shows
Speaker 1: and three or four of them are black and very successful,
Speaker 1: I'm not in the same thing they're not. But in
Speaker 1: ratio to what's on the air and the number of
Speaker 1: films that are made yearly, there's no comparison. I mean
Speaker 1: there's no I don't know what they're talking about, but
Speaker 1: there's no comparison. So we shouldn't even be jumping for
Speaker 1: joy right now. Uh. If for the next ten years
Speaker 1: you would see an increase in employment, we see images
Speaker 1: that reflect our humanity and not just our ethnicity. We
Speaker 1: see more directors producers owning content. We see us getting
Speaker 1: into the gaming market, which we're not yet. That is
Speaker 1: like grand Theft Auto made two points in two point
Speaker 1: two big end dollars in three days, and we're not
Speaker 1: in the gaming business. I mean, we should be celebrating
Speaker 1: the fact that we're more exposed, but we're not in
Speaker 1: a film and television business anymore. We're in the media business.
Speaker 1: And until we get into that business, I say, the
Speaker 1: kids don't want to be Steven Spielberg, try to be
Speaker 1: Steve Jobs because you know the thing is, and they'll
Speaker 1: say it this way. You know, we're playing checks in
Speaker 1: a chess game. Make any sense? Yes, do you feel
Speaker 1: like you would discriminated against because are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: Big black ball, big black ballheaded? Uh? You know me
Speaker 1: detective And for the work. Yeah, but I got some
Speaker 1: good roles too in terms of some of the shows,
Speaker 1: and my humanity was shown more. But in those days, um,
Speaker 1: there weren't many of us who were dark skinned black
Speaker 1: men who were allowed to be in leading roles, etcetera.
Speaker 1: So you know when you scared me to when you
Speaker 1: was in the predator and he was putting that stuff
Speaker 1: around your eyes and it was like you were preparing
Speaker 1: to die. And I like, boy, the predator, the bad man.
Speaker 1: If he killed this one, he got me. So I'm
Speaker 1: still trying to get him too. Man, he's evasive. He's evasive.
Speaker 1: Put it that way. Now you're doing the Mahalia Jackson movie,
Speaker 1: executive producing that. Well, that's the rumor. Um. The producers
Speaker 1: are talking to me right now. They're still raising the funds,
Speaker 1: et cetera. But one thing that is happening. I'm getting
Speaker 1: ready to go in a couple of weeks to Chicago,
Speaker 1: and we're working on a television series, uh called the Blexicansslexicans, Yes,
Speaker 1: black Mexicans. What it happened. There's a black family in
Speaker 1: a Mexican family, um, and the young black man reaches
Speaker 1: out to a Mexican girl. They get married and they
Speaker 1: have a young girl and she's a Blexican. But the
Speaker 1: black father hates Mexicans and the Mexican father hates black people.
Speaker 1: And so it's about it's a comedy dramedy type thing,
Speaker 1: and we'll start filming it around three weeks and so days.
Speaker 1: Some black people in a Mexican make some pretty babies.
Speaker 1: I used to date this girl named Kanna Modena. She
Speaker 1: was a Mexican black. Murder was so fun and she
Speaker 1: used to give these great hand jobs. Okay, that's a
Speaker 1: lot of information and a lot of it. That's a
Speaker 1: lot of I just thought about it. When you say
Speaker 1: now I have a question, I mean the hand job part.
Speaker 1: I mean up util that point everything was good for
Speaker 1: a full name and everything I used to call it moa.
Speaker 1: That doesn't sound now, Bill, did I have a question
Speaker 1: for you? Somebody wrote this into me right from my
Speaker 1: asking just yesterday, and I want to see how would
Speaker 1: you say one should respond to this? Is this offensive? Now,
Speaker 1: she's a black girl and she was out in Orlando
Speaker 1: and her girlfriend starts talking to um a guy and
Speaker 1: he had two white friends, and one of the white
Speaker 1: guys gave her a kiss on the cheek and called
Speaker 1: her his jungle princess. Now, she said, I'm open to
Speaker 1: all races. I've never dated a white guy because of
Speaker 1: the ignorant ways they tried to hit on me, she said.
Speaker 1: Normally they call her things like chocolate queen or mocha latte.
Speaker 1: He took it too far, and I had to put
Speaker 1: him in his place. I realized after he might not
Speaker 1: have meant it in a rude way, But why do
Speaker 1: white guys think it's appropriate to hit on a black
Speaker 1: girl like that? She should have called him my cracker boo?
Speaker 1: How about that? Thank you? Crackaboo? Calling me jungle princess? Crackaboo?
Speaker 1: How about that? And you say crackabay, kackabay. Wouldn't that
Speaker 1: work out a little bit? But then so I'm reading
Speaker 1: my responses to this question, and some people are saying
Speaker 1: things like, well, you know, he probably might have just
Speaker 1: not known. Maybe he wasn't trying. How do you tolerate
Speaker 1: that kind of ignorance? I mean, my jungle what jungle princess? Look? Man,
Speaker 1: you know that kind of ignorance. I don't know how
Speaker 1: she can even tolerate it as Oh, he didn't mean that,
Speaker 1: Yes he did, he don't. What does he call what
Speaker 1: does he call his white girlfriend? Um? What? Why? Uh? What? Crackabay?
Speaker 1: I'm just something saying it's just like probably Nubian white queen.
Speaker 1: That's what they say. Yeah, sure, uh, I think it's
Speaker 1: just insulting and ignorant. That's you know, stupid. Do you
Speaker 1: know you got to go. You know, I just want
Speaker 1: to ask one more questions. Do you think that others?
Speaker 1: Because I always say I don't want to see any
Speaker 1: more slave movies because I want to see other stories
Speaker 1: told about the black American experience, Like we've had successful
Speaker 1: stories like why does it always have to be about
Speaker 1: slavery or the butler or stupid stuff like that. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean those movies have their meaning too, and I
Speaker 1: think that they have their validity. For me, I agree
Speaker 1: with you. Humanity should be displayed on a much broader
Speaker 1: panel and a much broader platform. Um. And I think
Speaker 1: it's up to us, um right now. You know, the
Speaker 1: traditional ways of distribution and movies are part of the
Speaker 1: reality of media. But at Sundance this year they had
Speaker 1: this film celebrated that was made by three iPhones and
Speaker 1: it's got made your distribution. So if we want to
Speaker 1: tell our story, those of us who have those skills,
Speaker 1: there's nothing stopping us. But we're waiting for somebody to
Speaker 1: save us, or somebody to give us permission discover ourselves
Speaker 1: to make any sense. Absolutely, that's what has to happen now. Man,
Speaker 1: We appreciate you joining us, and by the way, you
Speaker 1: mentioned that you're gonna stop by asking that I'll be
Speaker 1: in your hometown this weekend too, do the show in Poughkeepsie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this weekend. Great, great, great man, thank you. Baravon theater
Speaker 1: something called the Midtown okay, the main Street. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: His next question is gonna be where is the weed at?
Speaker 1: But you tell him you don't roll like I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't roll like that. Man, you can't take it.
Speaker 1: The weird is I don't know into that, but my
Speaker 1: cousin can't. It's the Breakfast Club by the way. Last
Speaker 1: thing by the Dark Girl's Book. Girl, Yes, I have
Speaker 1: that home. I love that book. It's right on my um.
Speaker 1: It's like my coffee table book. Yeah, Amazon dot com
Speaker 1: or in uh, you know what. The Dark Girl's Book
Speaker 1: is a table The book just pictures a beautiful cover. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's a beautiful girl to check it out. Yes, very
Speaker 1: true