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Speaker 1: The Senate specifically passing the whole Ukraine funding thing. Senator

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Speaker 1: we got all that, we got all that. But that's

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Speaker 1: Politician doesn't believe in anything. But our politicians seem to

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Speaker 1: They're just doing whatever they want, even when it's really

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Speaker 2: People know the war's lost, they understand that, and.

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Speaker 1: Yet Congress not only passed it, they brag about it

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Speaker 3: The Brunswick County Sheriff's Office arrested a man who was

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Speaker 8: So this is your policies and action, mister Secretary. A

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Speaker 1: And they're going to hand it to sanctuary cities to

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Speaker 2: So the federal government opened.

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Speaker 1: Up your border on purpose, flooded your country with murderers

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Speaker 1: These dirt balls come here illegally and they're complaining about

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so sorry. What's the food?

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Speaker 1: They're all moving forward, no matter how mad we get,

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Speaker 2: And I can't get it out of my mind.

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Speaker 1: We've gotten to the point where are despicable politicians don't.

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Speaker 1: All that may have made you uncomfortable when I am right,

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Speaker 1: So, universities are bad places. Universities have been bad, had

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Speaker 1: Everyone's starting to figure this out more and more. And

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Speaker 5: I think that what you're seeing is just that there's

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Speaker 5: Sure, but we told you so. It's kind of tough

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm right there with you. We told you so.

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Speaker 1: You're just that you just now woke up and decided

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Speaker 1: Columbia was an evil communist stump that was poisonous to America.

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Speaker 1: That you just found that out a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 1: So along those lines, Buck, we already saw Claudie and

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Speaker 1: Gay get the heave ho at Harvard.

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Speaker 2: It's not like they're slowing down.

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Speaker 2: They you look at Harvard.

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Speaker 5: What is Harvard's Is it forty billion or sixty billion?

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Speaker 11: These people don't even know.

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Speaker 1: It's a racial thing. I'm glad you and I came

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Speaker 11: You know, maybe you could bring her politics around.

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Speaker 5: I congratulations on being the Da Vinci of radio for

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Speaker 5: I thought that I was an early Jesse Kelly believer,

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Speaker 11: Michael was like he's gonna be king. Jesse's super talented,

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Speaker 5: It's like it's like I was seeing the pitch and

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Speaker 5: You were like, sorry, very me to it anyway, But congratulations,

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Speaker 5: great show, great stuff. I love it when people send

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Speaker 2: He's hilarious.

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Speaker 5: I think I'm kind of funny too, But that's funny, clearly, clearly.

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Speaker 1: I been telling you about blackout coffee? Haven't I been

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Speaker 1: telling you? These are our people.

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Speaker 2: Blackout Coffee on the other side, just a little old

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Speaker 2: glory for you, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, blackout coffee on top of being amazing coffee. They'll

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Speaker 1: send you whatever you want, by the way, up holding

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Speaker 1: matters most to me now, putting our money where our

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Speaker 1: morals are.

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Speaker 2: We all enjoy a cup of coffee or two.

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Speaker 1: If I'm being honest, every single day, why not support

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Speaker 1: patriots who believe in life, God and guns.

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Speaker 2: How's that sound?

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Speaker 1: Blackoutcoffee dot com slash Jesse gets you twenty percent off

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Speaker 1: your first order. Go enjoy the greatest coffee ever delivered

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Speaker 1: to your front door and maybe pick yourself up a

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Speaker 1: mug while you're there. Blackoutcoffee dot com slash Jesse will

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Speaker 1: be better. Well, I think we should probably check in

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Speaker 1: on the law are going on in the country, because

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Speaker 1: it's kind of a big deal if your just a

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Speaker 1: system turns entirely against you and decides.

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Speaker 2: You're an enemy of the people. That are little things

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Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Trump's got a trial going on right now in

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Speaker 1: New York. He's not allowed to talk, which doesn't sound

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Speaker 1: very constitutional at all, but there's a gag order.

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Speaker 2: Trump's mad about it.

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Speaker 1: There's all kinds of other stuff going on, and Julie

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Speaker 1: Kelly knows what's up. Go subscribe to her substack called Declassified.

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Speaker 1: All right, Julie, the trial itself, I can't decide why

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Speaker 1: exactly it's not capturing America's attention right now. Is because

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Speaker 1: we already know they're going to find him guilty because

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Speaker 1: it's a dirty bunch of comedies up there or what.

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Speaker 2: But what's happening?

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Speaker 14: Well, So I think the first witness took the stand today,

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Speaker 14: the editor publisher owner of the National Inquirer.

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Speaker 13: So think about this trial, Jesse.

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Speaker 14: So we're going to have the publisher of the National Inquirer.

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Speaker 13: We're going to have Michael Cohen.

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Speaker 14: The disgraced attorney I believe he's disbarred, spent some time

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Speaker 14: in prison. Then we have Stormy Daniels. I mean, this

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Speaker 14: is about as lurid as you could possibly get, So,

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Speaker 14: you know, I think maybe that's part of the reason

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Speaker 14: most of America is turning it off, because it is

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Speaker 14: so lured, with so many disgraceful characters populating it, not

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Speaker 14: the least of whom is Judge Juan Murshan. It completely compromised,

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Speaker 14: judge whose daughter right now is probably signing off many

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Speaker 14: new lucrative contracts in her digital marketing firm with high level,

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Speaker 14: high powered Democrats, as she has made tens of millions

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Speaker 14: of dollars off of people like Adam Schiff and Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 14: So this is, of course just a circus. But the

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Speaker 14: serious side of it is it is sidelining Donald Trump,

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Speaker 14: who is forced to sit in this courtroom every single

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Speaker 14: day in New York off of the campaign trail, away

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Speaker 14: from his business affairs, and away from explaining to the

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Speaker 14: American people why he should be the president and should

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Speaker 14: defeat Joe Biden. Joe Biden is free to do whatever

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Speaker 14: he wants, and Donald Trump now is stuck in this

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Speaker 14: courtroom for at least the next six weeks.

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Speaker 1: And shelling out moneylie. A lot has been made about

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Speaker 1: Trump using some campaign funds pack funds for fund legal defense.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think people understand exactly how much this

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Speaker 1: stuff costs. And I don't think to understand that that

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Speaker 1: does mean there's not enough money to campaign right now.

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Speaker 2: This is hurting, is it not?

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Speaker 14: It absolutely is because think of this. Not only does

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Speaker 14: he have the New York trial, this criminal trial, he also,

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Speaker 14: in fact, one of his lawyers is one of the

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Speaker 14: teap top defense lawyers in the classified documents case in

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Speaker 14: Southern Florida that is still progressing, with motions being filed

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Speaker 14: every day, which I was posting last night and today

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Speaker 14: on Twitter. Then of course we have Thursday, the Supreme

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Speaker 14: Court is hearing oral arguments on the presidential immunity question,

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Speaker 14: which relates to his January sixth trial in Washington, d c.

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Speaker 14: If the Supreme Court comes back and denies his claims

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Speaker 14: of presidential immunity, that is going to restart. But he's

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Speaker 14: still paying his attorney to go to oral arguments and

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Speaker 14: make his case on Thursday, and then of course we've

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Speaker 14: got the Rico case with Fanny Willis, who, oddly I

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Speaker 14: don't know why Jesse suddenly kind of disappeared from the headlines.

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Speaker 13: That's kind of strange.

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Speaker 14: So yes, it cost an enormous amount of money, time

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Speaker 14: and resources.

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Speaker 13: And I think that's a great point.

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Speaker 14: It's not just taking him physically off the campaign trail,

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Speaker 14: but diverting who knows untold amount of money to all

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Speaker 14: these various lawyers and proceedings around the country.

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Speaker 2: Just wild to think that's where we are.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to a different Trump trial,

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Speaker 1: the classified documents trial.

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Speaker 2: I understand this is the one.

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Speaker 1: You've elaborated for us many times about Judge Cannon. This

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Speaker 1: appears to be the most reasonable of the judges.

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Speaker 2: There's not going to be a bunch of gag order crap.

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Speaker 1: But something happened with documents and redacted and unredacted.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand this stuff, Julie. What happened?

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Speaker 13: So this has been a fight, Jesse for the past

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Speaker 13: three months.

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Speaker 14: In January, Trump and his defense lawyers filed what was

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Speaker 14: called emotion to compel and what they did in that

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Speaker 14: motion is. They argued that the real legitimate prosecution team

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Speaker 14: in this classified document's case is not just Jack Smith

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Speaker 14: a few of his Lyne prosecutors and a few FBI investigators.

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Speaker 14: That this prosecution team, the scope of it extends to

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Speaker 14: the most powerful government agencies that have done this before,

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Speaker 14: as you know, Jesse, the Department of Justice, the FBI

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Speaker 14: counter Intelligence Unit, the National Archives, the intelligence community. So

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Speaker 14: they outlined in this motion all of the other officials

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Speaker 14: and agencies who were involved from the very beginning, and

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Speaker 14: this dates back to the spring of twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 14: trying to concoct and piece together some sort of documents

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Speaker 14: or records investigation and prosecution of Donald Trump. Will Judge

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Speaker 14: Cannon because she is holding DOJ and Jacksmith's feet to

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Speaker 14: the fire and is acting like a legitimate judge Jesse,

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Speaker 14: not like Juan Marchan or.

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Speaker 13: Some of the other that we've seen.

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Speaker 14: And she has repeatedly said that she will side on

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Speaker 14: the American people side and that she believes in full

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Speaker 14: transparency to the extent that other interests are protected. But

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Speaker 14: we have a right to know what's been going on

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Speaker 14: in this case. Jack Smith has been fighting it, but

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Speaker 14: finally yesterday, a big section of that first motion that

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Speaker 14: detailed the collusion also starting with the Biden White House.

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Speaker 14: I have to emphasize all of these different agencies and

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Speaker 14: officials working with the Biden White House to create this case.

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Speaker 14: So a lot of that motion was unredacted, a lot

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Speaker 14: of the exhibits were unredacted, so we can finally see

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Speaker 14: FBI forms, we can see email chains, we can see

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Speaker 14: other documentation that proves this collusion between the Biden White House, DOJ,

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Speaker 14: and these other interests to target Donald Trump once again

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Speaker 14: and manufacture another criminal case, flimsy criminal case against the

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Speaker 14: former president and two of his co defendant.

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Speaker 13: So, as you know, I was posting this on Twitter

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Speaker 13: last night.

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Speaker 14: People can go and see that I have the redacted

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Speaker 14: motion and exhibits versus what was unsealed yesterday, and now

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Speaker 14: you can see Jesse why Jack Smith and the DOJ

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Speaker 14: and Biden Whitehouse wanted that material to be kept under seal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want people to go look at it. I

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Speaker 1: want people to go because is it just on your Twitter?

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Speaker 1: Is it on your substack too? I want people to

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Speaker 1: go read this stuff because it's interesting. I thought it

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Speaker 1: was interesting when I was coming through it. Last night

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Speaker 1: I was creeping on your Twitter, Julie, I was.

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Speaker 2: I found it interesting.

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Speaker 1: What they were redacting versus what they didn't want me

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Speaker 1: to see.

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Speaker 2: I found to be extremely interesting.

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Speaker 14: It always is right because, of course we heard the

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Speaker 14: old argument, we have to keep this protected, we have

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Speaker 14: to keep witnesses protected, we have to protect the integrity

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Speaker 14: of the investigation, we have to protect national security interests.

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Speaker 13: Well, of course none of that was true. This related to.

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Speaker 14: Another cover up, just like Wan Rashaan is doing with

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Speaker 14: his gag order preventing Donald try from talking about his

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Speaker 14: daughter Laurence lucrative business dealings with Democrats. This was another

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Speaker 14: cover up operation in southern Florida, attempted cover up operation

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Speaker 14: to conceal what was going on and has been going

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Speaker 14: on behind the scenes with the DOJ. And keep in mind, Jesse,

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Speaker 14: not just the classified documents case, but we also know

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Speaker 14: Joe Biden in the White House intimately involved in pressuring

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Speaker 14: the DOJ they needed to be pressured to pursue the

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Speaker 14: January sixth, twenty twenty election interference case in Washington. So

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Speaker 14: the idea, of course, no one on our site believes

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Speaker 14: that Joe Biden has taken a hands off approach here,

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Speaker 14: or maryck Garland or anybody else that we're told has

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Speaker 14: been independent from political interests.

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Speaker 13: Now this is the exact reverse.

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Speaker 14: And now we have Joe Biden, his general counsel, and

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Speaker 14: other people like Lisa Monaco for the Deputy Attorney General

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Speaker 14: with their fingerprints all over yet again, another concocted case

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Speaker 14: against Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to the forgotten souls January sixth,

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Speaker 1: political prisoners who've been rotting in prison since January seventh, Julie,

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Speaker 1: what's going on with them? Any updates and other Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court oral arguments?

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Speaker 2: What do we have for these poor people?

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Speaker 13: Right?

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Speaker 14: So, Jesse, we're now exceeded one thousand, four hundred individuals rated, arrested, investigated, charged,

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Speaker 14: in many behind bars for their participation in January sixth.

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Speaker 14: The Department of Justice Matthew Graves, DCS attorney continues to

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Speaker 14: announce new arrests every day.

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Speaker 13: I think that there were two today. But there is

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Speaker 13: some good news.

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Speaker 14: As we talked about the fifteen twelve C twos go

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Speaker 14: tois oral arguments last Tuesday, where a majority of the

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Speaker 14: justices indicated that they disapproved of how DOJ has weaponized

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Speaker 14: that obstruction obstruction statute against more than three hundred and

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Speaker 14: fifty j six defendants, including Donald Trump. But Jesse, there

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Speaker 14: was some other good news today, and that is the

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Speaker 14: Supreme Court demanded that the government, after they initially refused,

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Speaker 14: demanded that the government file a response in a petition

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Speaker 14: for a writ of CERC, meaning that the Supreme Court

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Speaker 14: whether they will take.

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Speaker 13: Up this case or not.

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Speaker 14: But this relates to a misdemeanor for January sixth, And

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Speaker 14: I think what happened last week, Jesse is the Justice

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Speaker 14: has gotten earfull from US Solicitor General Elizabeth Preligar about

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Speaker 14: how these statutes have been weaponized and will only apply

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Speaker 14: to January sixth defendants or protesters on the right, which

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Speaker 14: is what she made very clear. And I think the

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Speaker 14: timing is interesting that the Supreme Court now has told

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Speaker 14: Elizabeth Preligar when she said, I'm not going to respond

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Speaker 14: to this petition, and the Supreme Court came back today

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Speaker 14: and said, oh, yes, we do. We want to hear

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Speaker 14: your answer by the end of May. That could signal

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Speaker 14: that they would take up this j six misdemeanor, very

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Speaker 14: common misdemeanor conviction, and that will just again continue to

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Speaker 14: dismantle in unravel this reckless, abusive Retalia toy, unlawful prosecution

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Speaker 14: of j six protesters.

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Speaker 1: Let's hope so fingers crossed from Julie as always, thank you, ma'am.

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Speaker 2: All right, abortions in the news. It's going to be

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Speaker 2: in the news.

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Speaker 1: Democrats are going to make sure it's in the news.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about it next. Before we talk about that

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Speaker 1: with Emma Waters, let's talk about your time share.

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Speaker 2: The timeshare. You want out of.

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Speaker 1: The timeshare you can't get out of, or at least

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Speaker 1: you think you can, because this is the very common

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Speaker 1: scam they do. It's very common. Sadly, it's become a

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Speaker 1: business practice in America. You get someone locked into something,

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Speaker 1: some sort of a contract.

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Speaker 2: Gyms do this all the time, and then they don't

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Speaker 2: let you out.

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Speaker 1: Oh you want out, Oh sorry, You've got to put

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Speaker 1: it in writing and send it by certified mail. Time

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Speaker 1: share companies just tell you, oh sorry, you're in it

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Speaker 1: for life, for life, pay your annual fees. Doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: that you can't use it, doesn't matter that we told

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Speaker 1: you maybe try us next year.

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Speaker 2: You can never get to you can never get out.

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Speaker 1: But lone Star Transfer has changed all that lone star

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Speaker 1: transfer will legally and permanently set you free.

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Speaker 2: Would you like that?

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Speaker 1: They can't do it unless you call them. The phone

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Speaker 1: call itself is free.

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Speaker 2: You want to.

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Speaker 1: Stop paying those annual fees special assessments eight four four

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Speaker 1: three one zero two six four six ninety nine percent

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Speaker 1: of the time they get people out legally and permanently

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Speaker 1: make the phone call.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back. A world of make believe?

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Speaker 1: How many times have we talked about that here on

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Speaker 1: the show How communists live in.

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Speaker 2: A world of make believe?

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Speaker 1: Your liberal aunt, Peggy, she exists in a world that

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Speaker 1: is not real.

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Speaker 2: She does, she genuinely does.

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Speaker 1: She exists in a world where Trump is a Russian agent, right.

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Speaker 1: She exists in a world where border patrol troops are

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Speaker 1: they're troops, I should say they're troops, and they're slaughtering

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Speaker 1: illegals on the border. She lives in a world that

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Speaker 1: is not real and liberal amt pagy? She believes the

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Speaker 1: things she's told on television. Gavin Newsom, I'll play it

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Speaker 1: for you in a second. He's getting a lot of

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Speaker 1: crap for playing the most ridiculous ad you've ever seen

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Speaker 1: in your life. And it is ridiculous and it's all

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Speaker 1: lies and it's over the top.

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Speaker 2: But I want you to remember something.

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Speaker 1: As you watch this liberal amp Pegy sees this and

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Speaker 1: she believes it.

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Speaker 6: We're almost there. You're gonna make it. Trump Republicans want

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Speaker 6: to criminalize young Alabama women who travel for reproductive care Mass.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna need you to step out of the vehicle,

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Speaker 1: take a bregancy taste.

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Speaker 6: Stop them by taking action at Right to Travel dot org.

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Speaker 6: Campaign for Tomorrow group is responsible for the content of

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Speaker 6: this advertising.

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Speaker 2: Smart it's so over the top. I can't scan.

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Speaker 1: But look, he's not possib believe this stuff.

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Speaker 2: Joining me now.

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Speaker 1: Emma Waters, Senior research associate at the Heritage Foundation, Emma,

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Speaker 1: it's unbelievable, But people believe this ridiculous crab.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it has the power of emotional persuasion, which is

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Speaker 10: the number one thing that they have going for them

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Speaker 10: when it comes to this abortion messaging. Right for so

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Speaker 10: many years, Democrats have been framing pregnancy literally as a

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Speaker 10: life threatening illness, even when the pregnancy is perfectly healthy

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Speaker 10: and natural, which just couldn't be further from the truth.

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Speaker 10: And these sorts of ads just reinforce the messaging that

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Speaker 10: by getting pregnant in and of itself.

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Speaker 12: Somehow women's lives.

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Speaker 10: Are under attack, right, And if you think about this

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Speaker 10: abortion being the taking of unborn life, maybe it's not

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Speaker 10: the worst idea that we actually try to protect life

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Speaker 10: through a myriad of ways. Although what this actual ad

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Speaker 10: is presenting is absolutely Ridiculou. No one is being arrested

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Speaker 10: for traveling across state lines, least of all the women

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Speaker 10: who were struggling in this terrible situation.

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Speaker 1: Eva, could you explain, for those of us who can't

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Speaker 1: follow every state law, every state decision, what is going

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Speaker 1: on in Alabama with IVF? What does it mean? What

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Speaker 1: even is IVF? For those who don't understand, will you

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Speaker 1: just lay all this.

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Speaker 2: Out for us, please?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, absolutely so.

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Speaker 10: In viuture, fertilization is simply when you take a woman's

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Speaker 10: egg and a man's sperm and you fertilize it inside

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Speaker 10: of a petri dish in a lab. So in Alabama,

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Speaker 10: a couple of months ago, they had a ruling where

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Speaker 10: parents who had a fertility clinic negligently destroy their embryo.

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Speaker 12: So against the parents' wishes.

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Speaker 10: The fertility clinic allowed someone to come in and destroy

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Speaker 10: them and the parents said that they wanted to sue

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Speaker 10: for legal recourse, but not for the loss of property,

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Speaker 10: but for the loss of persons. This was a pretty

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Speaker 10: simple extension of the Wrongful Death of a Minor Child

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Speaker 10: Act in Alabama, which said that if an embryo or

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Speaker 10: really a child from the moment of conception, is harmed

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Speaker 10: inside of a woman's body, then you have the right

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Speaker 10: to sue for legal recourse as the wrongful death of

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Speaker 10: a minor. So the Alabama ruling simply said that if

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Speaker 10: that's true for babies that are inside of the womb,

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Speaker 10: then we should extend it to fertilized eggs in in

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Speaker 10: viuture fertilization and they should.

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Speaker 12: Be protected from that moment of conception too.

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Speaker 10: And this is what really started this entire national controversy

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Speaker 10: that we see today. So Alabama rationally overreacted and they

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Speaker 10: actually passed a law that gives the fertility industry complete

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Speaker 10: civil and criminal immunity in the process of IVF, which

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Speaker 10: means that if embryos are destroyed, even through the wilful

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Speaker 10: negligence of the fertility clinic against the parents' wishes, parents

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Speaker 10: have no legal recourse to hold the industry accountable, which

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Speaker 10: is insane right, because in fast food right, we have

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Speaker 10: a ton of regulations where if you're accidentally burned from

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Speaker 10: hot coffee at McDonald's, you're poisoned from bad meat at

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Speaker 10: another place, you have the right to sue and hold

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Speaker 10: these places accountable. But for some reason, in the fertility industry,

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Speaker 10: where we're creating life itself, we all of a sudden

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Speaker 10: think that they should have absolute immunity, and however, they

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Speaker 10: treat these unborn lives regardless of the parents' wishes.

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Speaker 12: So as we're thinking about these.

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Speaker 10: Issues, I really like to take it from making the

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Speaker 10: conversation solely about IVF, which has been the national discourse,

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Speaker 10: and shift it to a larger conversation about treating couples

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Speaker 10: with infertility, because by shifting it to infertility itself, this

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Speaker 10: opens the door to a wide array of possible treatments

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Speaker 10: that are available for couples that can actually heal the

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Speaker 10: underlying causes of infertility. Of course, that's harder to catch

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Speaker 10: and a sound bite for politicians. So a lot of

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Speaker 10: what we're seeing on the national level really comes down

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Speaker 10: to a big debate between reproductive autonomy. So IVF has

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Speaker 10: now been grafted into the abortion conversation with highly emotional

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Speaker 10: ads playing that are saying that Republicans and Conservatives are

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Speaker 10: threatening to take away IVF. None of them are, and

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Speaker 10: that somehow this is under attack going into the election

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Speaker 10: of twenty twenty four. And so this really is I

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Speaker 10: think one of the few cards that Democrats have in

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Speaker 10: their favor, and they're playing it for everything they have.

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Speaker 1: Emma, can you talk about surrogacy? This is something you've

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Speaker 1: written about. This is one of those topics that most

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Speaker 1: people aren't totally clear on. The common reaction when you

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Speaker 1: find out, all we can't get pregnant, we're getting a

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Speaker 1: surrogate is ooh, that's great.

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Speaker 2: But talk about surrogacy.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, So surrogacy, or commercial surrogacy like we often call it,

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Speaker 10: involves couples who use and be sure fertilization to create

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Speaker 10: an embryo, but because they're either unable to carry the

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Speaker 10: child their self or would not like to, as happens

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Speaker 10: in many cases, they decide to hire another woman to

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Speaker 10: just date and birth their child for them. So this

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Speaker 10: has a standard contract. And then in the United States,

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Speaker 10: women who are surrogates make anywhere from about twenty five

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Speaker 10: thousand dollars to seventy thousand dollars just for the just

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Speaker 10: for the time and energy of carrying the child, on

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Speaker 10: top of medical expenses that are paid as well as

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Speaker 10: any other reimbursements.

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Speaker 12: So this does seem like a really good.

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Speaker 10: Option for couples who are unable or unwilling to carry

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Speaker 10: a child, but it carries with it a lot of

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Speaker 10: major issues, major issues that Europe has really experienced, which

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Speaker 10: is why many European nations either ban surrogacy or severely

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Speaker 10: limit who can be surrogates and who can access it.

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Speaker 10: So the three primary concerns here when it comes to

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Speaker 10: surrogacy is first the exploitation of women, second the commodification

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Speaker 10: of children, and third national security concerns. So with the

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Speaker 10: exploitation of women in surrogacy, you're often dealing with a

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Speaker 10: class of women who.

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Speaker 12: Are in a particular.

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Speaker 10: Situation of financial need, and so we're compelled, yeah by

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Speaker 10: that financial will need to seek out this highly lucrative opportunity. However,

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Speaker 10: when they get into the surrogacy contract, they find that

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Speaker 10: it's an incredibly detailed contract controlling every aspect of their life.

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Speaker 10: If they can sleep with their partner, what kind of

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Speaker 10: food they can have, even if they're going to be

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Speaker 10: required to abort the baby for any reason, as well

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Speaker 10: as for what kind of birth they have. And once

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Speaker 10: that child is born, the child is whisked away right away.

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Speaker 10: In a many times surrogates don't even have the opportunity

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Speaker 10: to meet the child they birthed. The second is the

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Speaker 10: commodification of children. So just straight and simple, it is

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Speaker 10: illegal to pay for a child. The buying and selling

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Speaker 10: of children is totally illegal. So if, for example, a

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Speaker 10: woman gets pregnant and then a couple offers to pay

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Speaker 10: for the child, that would be absolutely illegal.

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Speaker 12: In all fifty states.

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Speaker 10: But with a commercial surrogacy contract, if you find the

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Speaker 10: contract before the conception of a child, it's deemed a

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Speaker 10: legal binding contract. So there's actually been multiple FBI arrests

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Speaker 10: in California where clinics have gotten surro gets pregnant and

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Speaker 10: then advertised that they were in need of parents to

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Speaker 10: rescue these children after a fake contract fell through, and

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Speaker 10: they've all been arrested on these grounds. But really we're

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Speaker 10: talking about a difference in time, not a difference in

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Speaker 10: kind here. So the idea that you can pay these

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Speaker 10: lucrative amounts of money to create a child inserts this

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Speaker 10: really perverse view of children that is something that anyone,

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Speaker 10: for any reason could purchase. And the worst part of

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Speaker 10: all of this is that most states don't require any

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Speaker 10: background checks, They don't require psychological assessments or even home

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Speaker 10: visits to ensure that the person or couple commissioning the

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Speaker 10: surrog it comes from a safe home. So in Chicago,

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Speaker 10: just a couple of weeks ago, the FBI actually arrested

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Speaker 10: a veterinarian on charges of knowing the filming and distributing

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Speaker 10: child porn graphy. And they arrested him one week before

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Speaker 10: he was going to pick up his surrogate born son,

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Speaker 10: who they found messages of him describing for the purpose

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Speaker 10: of sexual exploitation. And this is just like one example, right,

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Speaker 10: there are many others where you can literally commission a

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Speaker 10: child for any reason, even the most perverse kinds. And then,

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Speaker 10: very briefly on the last, the national security concerns are huge.

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Speaker 10: So did you know and you probably didn't know that

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Speaker 10: Chinese nationals from China are the number one international demographic

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Speaker 10: who comes to the United States for surrogacy by three

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Speaker 10: times the amount of the next country.

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Speaker 12: And a large part of this.

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Speaker 10: Reason is is that in the United States, children who

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Speaker 10: were born gain and maintain the full rights of citizenship,

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Speaker 10: including access to education, special clearance levels, health insurance.

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Speaker 12: And more.

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Speaker 10: So there are our entire websites and articles that you

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Speaker 10: can find through NPR, New York Times, CNN, and more

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Speaker 10: where Chinese nationals have literally said, we came to the

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Speaker 10: United States so that our child can have citizenship, and

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Speaker 10: when they turn twenty one, either we can become US

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Speaker 10: citizens because it's a lot easier with a green card,

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Speaker 10: or they can just become Chinese nationals. But this is

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Speaker 10: a massive, underregulated, unaccountable industry where we literally have our

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Speaker 10: number one foreign enemy taking advantage of commercial surrogacy in

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Speaker 10: the United States in order to further exploit the United States.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is just being invaded through the womb.

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Speaker 2: Gosh, they emma, thank you. That was extremely important informative.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it. I actually I hadn't heard of that.

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Speaker 2: That sucks.

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Speaker 1: All right, we have light in the mood. I need

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Speaker 1: one after that. That was a lot that story about

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Speaker 1: the vet next, all right, it is time to lighten

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Speaker 1: the mood. And coats scaring cats makes me laugh.

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