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Speaker 3: do a focus group and what that means is a discussion.
Speaker 3: It's a discussion about stuff. I think you all know
Speaker 3: what we might be here to speak about. It's New Hampshire,
Speaker 3: it's the autumn before an election year. I was saying
Speaker 3: to these guys, we did have a fight once in
Speaker 3: the UK, so you know, you have to make sure
Speaker 3: that you beat the good people of Britain by not
Speaker 3: having a fight. First name, what you do for the
Speaker 3: thing where you're getting news from?
Speaker 4: Okay, James, I working, and I get my news from
Speaker 4: podcasts or the internet, like a news site like a
Speaker 4: CNN or NBC.
Speaker 3: Any particular podcasts.
Speaker 4: Five thirty eight podcasts.
Speaker 5: I am Dana. I'm a full time homemaker, and I
Speaker 5: get my news from like a daily email briefing, which
Speaker 5: one the morning brew. Hi?
Speaker 6: My name is Neve. I am a homemaker homeschooler, and
Speaker 6: I get most of my news shared amongst other moms
Speaker 6: and folks in non mainstream media type groups.
Speaker 3: What kind of can give you an example of any of those?
Speaker 6: Like health freedom groups or folks who are more leaning
Speaker 6: like opposing mainstream media.
Speaker 7: Hi, I'm Jennifer. I'm a business analyst and I my
Speaker 7: news from mostly the internet, different websites NBC, CNBC, Fox News,
Speaker 7: and whatever. The one that pops up on my computer
Speaker 7: that I don't even ask for he shows me the headlines, okay,
Speaker 7: and also when I check my email the headlines there.
Speaker 8: My name is Debbie and I am a homemaker, part
Speaker 8: time teacher, and I get my news from my husband.
Speaker 8: But I do watch Fox News and techer Carlson Great,
Speaker 8: thanks so much?
Speaker 3: Is that talker calls and X now?
Speaker 9: Yeah right, Jim. I'm in advertising sales and I get
Speaker 9: most of my news from either Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity
Speaker 9: and the two guys at noon. And iheard radio. Hi.
Speaker 10: My name is John. I'm a retired a service technician
Speaker 10: and I get my news from Newsmax.
Speaker 3: Hello.
Speaker 5: I'm Alexis.
Speaker 1: I'm an administrator for a state agency and I get
Speaker 1: my news primarily from the internet, local TV sas as
Speaker 1: well as national ones primarily WMR as well as the
Speaker 1: local Conquered Monitor and other local newspapers.
Speaker 3: What's the main issue in your mind that will determine
Speaker 3: how you vote.
Speaker 4: I wrote down smaller government slash for local control, looking
Speaker 4: for a candidate that's interested in making the federal government smaller,
Speaker 4: and I put down.
Speaker 5: The economy and abortion.
Speaker 6: I wrote down freedom like personal freedom, parntal freedom and
Speaker 6: medical freedom.
Speaker 7: The economy, we're protection education, and also making our federal
Speaker 7: government a little smaller.
Speaker 8: I wrote down constitution of rights, the right to life,
Speaker 8: and the economy.
Speaker 9: So I wrote down the Constitution of us protection of
Speaker 9: it and also write to life for the onborn.
Speaker 10: I've got securving borders, oil, independents and term.
Speaker 1: Limits, finances and economics, as well as reproductive rights.
Speaker 7: I think there needs to be more at the state level,
Speaker 7: because the states have their own sort of individual even
Speaker 7: cultures and personalities, and to have the federal government speak
Speaker 7: for all as much as they do. I think is
Speaker 7: got a little bit off.
Speaker 6: Of him at our big government level that they are
Speaker 6: not representing the people anymore.
Speaker 1: You can read all the bills that they pass, but
Speaker 1: they're two hundred pages long and they just slip in
Speaker 1: stuff that shouldn't be in there, Like the bills should
Speaker 1: be what the bill is intended for and not slip
Speaker 1: something in. So you can fund your pet project.
Speaker 3: Write it down, the name of the person, the name
Speaker 3: of the candidate who you're currently supporting.
Speaker 8: I would say Trump, and the reason being is because
Speaker 8: I would look back at his presidential days and all
Speaker 8: that was accomplished and what America was like, and then
Speaker 8: I would fast forward to where America is now and
Speaker 8: I wouldn't want to keep going that way.
Speaker 9: Trump, there you go, sorry. And the reason being is
Speaker 9: his past accomplishments we did in four three and a
Speaker 9: half four years, and he does support the working class
Speaker 9: a lot more I think than the other party does
Speaker 9: right now. And also what he's fighting now when he's
Speaker 9: going through the politic firestorm of all these affidavits, as
Speaker 9: he said, I'm fighting for you because if this can
Speaker 9: happen to me, it will happen to you if you
Speaker 9: say the wrong thing. You're in trouble today.
Speaker 10: Trump definitely, because he needs to put us back where
Speaker 10: we were with oil independence, secured borders, great economy, just
Speaker 10: looking out for us. He gave a military arraise when
Speaker 10: they hadn't happened for decades or years, I should say,
Speaker 10: And he made the VA better than what it was,
Speaker 10: and he's just he needs to take over where he
Speaker 10: left off, which is making us where we were, especially
Speaker 10: with the oil independence.
Speaker 1: Hey maybe I can't remember the guy's name from South Dakota.
Speaker 1: I was looking into some of his ideas and I
Speaker 1: would think that we should still stay with a Republican,
Speaker 1: but not necessarily Trump. I'd like to see some a
Speaker 1: little bit more of rational thinking come through. While I
Speaker 1: like how Trump had some ideas that were great and
Speaker 1: his financial abilities were leading us in the right direction,
Speaker 1: some of his chain is that he put in while
Speaker 1: he was interm directly affected my work and I didn't
Speaker 1: agree with some of them.
Speaker 3: Doug Burgham, is that who you were thinking of?
Speaker 5: Great?
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm currently undecided, but I would be leaning towards
Speaker 4: Governor DeSantis.
Speaker 3: A main reason why just executive.
Speaker 4: Experience, all the things he's accomplished in a very purple state,
Speaker 4: can get things done. Had the largest victory in recent
Speaker 4: memory for Florida, even though it's a divided state. So
Speaker 4: you know, he can get things done. And I just
Speaker 4: don't think he's quite as divisive or antagonistic as President
Speaker 4: Trump would be.
Speaker 5: I'm considering the vague for my vote. I think he's
Speaker 5: sort of an outsider, and I don't think he has
Speaker 5: any political ties that are going to influence everything. I
Speaker 5: think so, so I'm considering right now.
Speaker 6: Leading to Trump because he isn't a politician, he is
Speaker 6: a businessman. On his list of accomplishments was tremendously good
Speaker 6: for our country. My main hang up is that he
Speaker 6: pushed through the sort of COVID things, the shots and whatnot.
Speaker 7: I honestly don't know yet. I really don't. I agree
Speaker 7: with the warp speed kind of did it for me.
Speaker 7: So I'm not one hundred percent for Trump, but Dessantas
Speaker 7: I see some good points, but I'm not really positive yet.
Speaker 7: I haven't really made up my mind yet. Might be naive,
Speaker 7: but I was hoping for somebody out of nowhere to
Speaker 7: come in.
Speaker 3: I want to pick up on why you're sort of
Speaker 3: leaning away from Trump.
Speaker 4: I think we'll have a much better shout of winning
Speaker 4: without Trump at the top of the ticket. I honestly
Speaker 4: think if Trump isn't on top of the ticket, we're
Speaker 4: going to lose all the state races in New Hampshire
Speaker 4: because he's very unliked, very unlikable. I appreciate all the
Speaker 4: things he did, but in office, I think he did
Speaker 4: do a good job, but he's not a likable person.
Speaker 4: He's not a great person, and I think it would
Speaker 4: be a devastating effect on Republicans across the country to
Speaker 4: have him at the top of the ticket. I think
Speaker 4: we would feel that everywhere not worth it will be
Speaker 4: able to.
Speaker 9: Have some going With the vaccine, I too do not
Speaker 9: agree with the vaccine and got vaccine vaccine myself. It's
Speaker 9: a free choice to do so. I know Trump did
Speaker 9: say I would not force the vaccine anybody. I do
Speaker 9: believe that Trump was given some bad advice for Tucky
Speaker 9: with doctor Fosse, and I forget the other woman that
Speaker 9: was there. There's a lot of manipulation going on that
Speaker 9: the media will not be truthful about, but that is
Speaker 9: allow what took place. I think you got some bad advice.
Speaker 8: Well, there's many things that I agree with them on.
Speaker 8: I mean, the four years. There are some things, like
Speaker 8: I think a lot of times he speaks without thinking,
Speaker 8: and I think that that's a detriment to himself. But
Speaker 8: I do think that the media warps so much of
Speaker 8: what is truly going on, and I feel like that's
Speaker 8: a huge problem this in many areas, like with many
Speaker 8: of these candidates. I mean, it's hard to know the
Speaker 8: true person on nderneath me, because it really it depends.
Speaker 8: If you listen to CNN, it tells you one thing,
Speaker 8: if you listen to Fox News, it tells you a
Speaker 8: different thing. How can we make America great again? Because
Speaker 8: it's not great right now? It's not great. And I've
Speaker 8: got six kids and I'm watching them have to grow
Speaker 8: up in this and that worries me about what they're
Speaker 8: going to have to live with if somebody doesn't start
Speaker 8: shaking the boots somewhere.
Speaker 10: He's a businessman and he has a lot of hot
Speaker 10: back on him, and that's why he says some of
Speaker 10: the things that he does, because he's just he's a businessman.
Speaker 10: But he does right by the people.
Speaker 9: He could walk away.
Speaker 10: Anytime he wants with all his money, but he's still
Speaker 10: fighting to come back and say, I have to finish
Speaker 10: the job. I have to make us great again. When
Speaker 10: he put the tariffs on China, was bringing jobs back
Speaker 10: and doing the border. So that's why I like the guy.
Speaker 10: And yes, he doesn't say a lot of presidential things
Speaker 10: that he should be saying, but he also says a
Speaker 10: lot of things that people are thinking, but they won't
Speaker 10: come right out and say it. So let's call it
Speaker 10: what it is.
Speaker 3: I've seen you shaking a head a couple of times.
Speaker 4: I'm baffled by these arguments. I mean, he got bad advice.
Speaker 4: You want a president who got bad advice? That's really
Speaker 4: a cop out. But I think mail and ballots are
Speaker 4: here to stay, So they're here. So the media trumping
Speaker 4: up COVID and bringing COVID into the story, you think
Speaker 4: that helps President Biden to have a COVID outbreak on
Speaker 4: his watch? That definitely does not help him.
Speaker 3: So I think.
Speaker 4: Could Trump beat him? Maybe we all agree that Biden
Speaker 4: is totally incompetent, I think, and Trump already lost to him. Now,
Speaker 4: maybe it was a rigged election, but it shouldn't even
Speaker 4: been close. Right, he's Biden is totally incompetent. He shouldn't
Speaker 4: even win five states. So why don't we choose a
Speaker 4: candidate it doesn't come with all the baggage and all
Speaker 4: the issues and all the media hating him and all that.
Speaker 4: And let's get a fresh voice in there that can
Speaker 4: really whoever is the Republican nominee, should wipe the floor with.
Speaker 4: But it not be in a situation where a mail
Speaker 4: in ballot or media thing to swing it. It shouldn't even
Speaker 4: be that close, you know, don't leave it to the rest, right.
Speaker 3: Like candidates have said it, I've said, can Donald Trump
Speaker 3: beat Joe Biden?
Speaker 9: Is the fair election? So here you go again. We'll
Speaker 9: start and the cranking up with the COVID supposedly with
Speaker 9: the masking, and you know it's going to it's the
Speaker 9: same play they did it did four years ago. They're
Speaker 9: going to play the mail in ballots and the cheating
Speaker 9: is going to take place, and you know it just
Speaker 9: it's gonna be the same scenario again.
Speaker 8: Like I work in the schools and a couple of
Speaker 8: the teachers were like, you know, already, go's coming in
Speaker 8: the masks. Some of the schools are already going online.
Speaker 8: Some of the things are getting some of the colleges
Speaker 8: are getting shut down, like it's it's like.
Speaker 5: A deja vu.
Speaker 8: And then you think about it, Okay, so then the
Speaker 8: mail in ballot's got to come, Like do I think
Speaker 8: he can beat them? Absolutely, if it's fair.
Speaker 3: So you think that that that COVID stuff, you think
Speaker 3: is linked to the elections, and who's who's doing that,
Speaker 3: who's orchestrating that?
Speaker 9: The Democratic Party? It was it was an articles written
Speaker 9: by I forget what the news magazine was, but as
Speaker 9: a as a lial news magazine, and they came out
Speaker 9: and basis said it was planned to have the election
Speaker 9: go the way it was, and a lot of Republicans
Speaker 9: went along with that plan because they wanted to keep
Speaker 9: the swamp. They want to keep the already politics and
Speaker 9: some of the Republicans are involved with that. And it
Speaker 9: was a planned event and the use COVID as a
Speaker 9: way to push it in.
Speaker 7: With the pandemic, we see it coming again and there's
Speaker 7: a lot of writing on the wall. I think there's
Speaker 7: a lot of money exchange. There's big farmers behind it all.
Speaker 7: As far as can Trump beat Biden, I think I
Speaker 7: could probably beat Biden at this point where the guy's
Speaker 7: stumbling around, forgets where he is, can't remember his words,
Speaker 7: doesn't always talking about And so I wonder, like, really,
Speaker 7: who's who's running. We put the name Biden on it,
Speaker 7: but who's really holding those puppet strings? And can Trump
Speaker 7: win over those?
Speaker 3: Put your hands off if you think the twenty twenty
Speaker 3: election was rigged. I'm repeating what you guys have some
Speaker 3: of you guys have said back to me here and
Speaker 3: this idea that COVID is coming back up again. Put
Speaker 3: your hands off if you think that's a deliberate plan
Speaker 3: to try and basically stitch the next election up for
Speaker 3: the Democrats.
Speaker 10: It's all about fear, and that's what it is. It's
Speaker 10: all above fear. Scare everybody, stay indoors, weigh your masked
Speaker 10: COVID is coming back. I mean he had to help.
Speaker 7: It's fear, it's control to divide people.
Speaker 3: Well, if you think that's the case, and I asked
Speaker 3: the question again, you know for at least four of
Speaker 3: you nodding there. You know, I don't know about the
Speaker 3: exact semantics, but you're repeating about what you said to me.
Speaker 3: You put your hands up if you do think that
Speaker 3: there's at least some connection between COVID coming back and
Speaker 3: the next election being ready for. The Democrats said you
Speaker 3: had a bit of a hesitation over COVID on on Trump.
Speaker 3: Tell us a bit more about about that.
Speaker 7: Well, I was all for during the swamp, but as
Speaker 7: soon as warp speed went in, I was working in
Speaker 7: healthcare and it did affect me and everyone else I
Speaker 7: work with. I'm no longer in healthcare, thankfully, but it's
Speaker 7: really changed my mind on a lot of talk and
Speaker 7: where was the support to push through the vax and
Speaker 7: of force it. I still think you should be a choice,
Speaker 7: but I think he had a big hand in that need.
Speaker 6: I agree with Jennifer. I feel that he should have
Speaker 6: actually stopped it that he could have, even if Biden
Speaker 6: would have gone and changed it all. I think that
Speaker 6: he shouldn't have allowed it to be pushed through at all.
Speaker 3: Age limits. Some people have talked about age limits of
Speaker 3: public office, whether it's in the Senate, whether it's in
Speaker 3: the presidential race.
Speaker 10: You know, it's like kids in the candy store. They
Speaker 10: make money for themselves, they go win, then they don't
Speaker 10: have much money. They come out they're millionaires and even
Speaker 10: know where they get their money from, but they end
Speaker 10: up becoming millionaires and they vote themselves raises all the time. Ridiculous, ridiculous,
Speaker 10: you know, and uh, you know, as far as term
Speaker 10: limits call, they're the ones that vote for it. Where
Speaker 10: it should be the people who vote to the term limits,
Speaker 10: not them.
Speaker 3: What offices are you thinking about? Seven them at four?
Speaker 10: Is that were the main government itself? In Congress? It's
Speaker 10: just ridiculous, just ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Is there anyone in particular you might have in mind?
Speaker 4: There?
Speaker 10: All of them, all of them.
Speaker 7: I just think career politicians, like you said, they go in,
Speaker 7: come out millionaires, multimillionaires.
Speaker 6: Just there shouldn't be anybody in there over fifty years,
Speaker 6: you know, making their way to the top after just
Speaker 6: being in there for life.
Speaker 3: It's not an age thing or how long people have
Speaker 3: been around thing.
Speaker 5: I think it's how long they've been around. I think
Speaker 5: that people are just so entrenched in the way that
Speaker 5: they're doing things, that they've been doing it so long
Speaker 5: they can't see other ways of doing it.
Speaker 8: I just feel like it becomes routine, like it's just
Speaker 8: a routine. It's routine, and I feel like the voices
Speaker 8: of the people even though they say that they're listening
Speaker 8: to the voices of the people, it would be a
Speaker 8: different world if they truly were listening to the voices
Speaker 8: of the people.
Speaker 9: You got Nancy Polos, he's going from their four more
Speaker 9: years today. I mean, my goodness. I don't think there
Speaker 9: should be age limits, but let's look at their cognitive abilities.
Speaker 9: That's you know, Crouse, that's all becomes a judgmental issue.
Speaker 9: I realize that, but you know, it's just because some
Speaker 9: people who are older, I have better wisdom because the
Speaker 9: years of experience. So we want to limiting their age.
Speaker 9: But if there's nagas kind of tests that could take,
Speaker 9: you know, but once again, who's going to be fine?
Speaker 9: What the test limits are?
Speaker 8: People need to know their boundaries, And I don't think
Speaker 8: that we should judge them and say, oh, you're this stage,
Speaker 8: you can't do that because we don't understand. But I
Speaker 8: also think that if you look worldwide, as you get older,
Speaker 8: you do forget things and you do like that's just
Speaker 8: a known fact. But I feel like taking on the
Speaker 8: responsibility of a president or a senator like I do,
Speaker 8: think age is a factor.
Speaker 6: I don't disagree a bit just because I know some
Speaker 6: elderly that are sharp attacks, and and then some young
Speaker 6: people that have no common sense. So I think it
Speaker 6: I would like it to be able to be a
Speaker 6: case by case basis, but no, but they won't always
Speaker 6: know their limits. Not everybody stops driving when they should
Speaker 6: stop driving.
Speaker 4: I don't think you need age limits because everybody is
Speaker 4: different at different ages. Of the question is I do
Speaker 4: Senator Feinstein and Connell keep getting elected when they're not competent,
Speaker 4: And it's because the entrenched incumbetency makes it very, very
Speaker 4: difficult to get somebody out of there, because once you
Speaker 4: have your connections, you have the fundraising, you have years
Speaker 4: and years and years and there the Congress does not
Speaker 4: turn over like it should. You have people in there
Speaker 4: for fifty years even when they're not competent, because it's
Speaker 4: just too hard to beat them.
Speaker 3: Who's in support of an age limit on the office
Speaker 3: of president? Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 10: I think past seventy five this should be a limit
Speaker 10: as far as that there goes. Just like voting, you
Speaker 10: have to be a certain age. But I think if
Speaker 10: we had term limits, whether they have it upstairs or not,
Speaker 10: they would be out. And whether it be four years
Speaker 10: or eight years or twelve years, you know, they'd be gone,
Speaker 10: and it's good to have fresh new blood in there
Speaker 10: with fresh new ideas instead of keeping the same people
Speaker 10: over and over and over. It's a broken record.
Speaker 1: Well, I like the idea of being in the seventies,
Speaker 1: your past your retirement age, so you can still like
Speaker 1: understand that demographic and you've been through pretty much all
Speaker 1: the stages of you know, going to school, working, you know,
Speaker 1: raising families and then retirement and grandkids and all that.
Speaker 1: So you have like a good idea of everybody at
Speaker 1: their own stage of life. But I'd say like mid seventies,
Speaker 1: like seventy five or so, it is good.
Speaker 5: Like I really feel like eighty. I don't know. I'm
Speaker 5: probably the outlier in that age, but I feel like
Speaker 5: that could work.
Speaker 3: Put your hand up if you'd like to see some
Speaker 3: sort of cognitive test for those who run for office
Speaker 3: for president? Hands up? If so? Yeah, interesting, because I
Speaker 3: judge it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Like I said earlier, how do you judge that?
Speaker 9: Because something can make a definition of what is cognitive
Speaker 9: and what isn't. And with this government today, they'll twisted
Speaker 9: anyway they can to get their agenda down. What they
Speaker 9: want to do. And I've seen some people who you know,
Speaker 9: I mean, think of President Reagan. He is in his
Speaker 9: lower eighties when he left office, and he says his
Speaker 9: better year as a second term.
Speaker 3: Donald Trump too old to be president or is he
Speaker 3: still the right age?
Speaker 9: I think he's the right age because he's got the
Speaker 9: ability to do far more than most thirty year olds
Speaker 9: can do today. I mean, the guy just goes.
Speaker 6: I don't think that's why. I'm not sure age is significant.
Speaker 6: I think it's more about their capabilities. So I don't
Speaker 6: think he's too old.
Speaker 3: What about Jay Biden? Put your hand off eating Jay
Speaker 3: Biden's to oldre president? What do you think of these
Speaker 3: charges challenges that are happening. How do we feel about those?
Speaker 10: It's nothing but a lynching by the Democrats. They're so
Speaker 10: fearful of them that they're going after him left and right.
Speaker 10: And this has been going on, what's seven eight years,
Speaker 10: So it's definitely just a lynching and they're just afraid
Speaker 10: of them. That's why they're doing Otherwise they'd leave them alone.
Speaker 1: As far as the charges go. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: have a huge stock in the government conspiracies, being like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is all against me. It's a witch hunt. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: it isn't you broke the law, you're being indicted. It's
Speaker 1: surprising to me that he's even a candidate. I'm all
Speaker 1: for having a Republican candidate to like, stop all this
Speaker 1: nonsense spending, but him is just you know, if you
Speaker 1: go to jail just like everybody else, it makes it
Speaker 1: very clear that you are not above the law.
Speaker 4: I think some of it is a witch hunt, for sure,
Speaker 4: and I think some of it are legitimate claims, like
Speaker 4: him telling, you know, the governor of Georgia or the
Speaker 4: Secretary of State of Georgia that he needs to find votes.
Speaker 4: I mean, the president calling someone like that is obviously
Speaker 4: trying to intimidate an influence the election, and that's that's
Speaker 4: something we should all stand up for and say that's wrong.
Speaker 4: I wish the charges weren't there because it makes folks
Speaker 4: like our friends here in the back row really solidify
Speaker 4: behind them, and he's been able to turn it into
Speaker 4: that sort of if I think someone back there said
Speaker 4: if they can come after me, they can come after you,
Speaker 4: Well you're not. You're not intimidating secretary's of state, so
Speaker 4: you're not you're probably not in trouble, but I think
Speaker 4: it's I think it's bad because I think it helps
Speaker 4: the Trump supporters circle around Trump and make it look
Speaker 4: like he's a victim, which I think he likes.
Speaker 5: And one word stupid.
Speaker 8: I think it's stupid. I think they're wasting a ton
Speaker 8: of time. And yeah, they want the money, and.
Speaker 9: So welcome to the Banana Republic of America. This is
Speaker 9: what other countries do to the other candidates. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 9: if there are things who done wrong. I think some
Speaker 9: of the things that were done wrong, they wouldn't make
Speaker 9: an issue of it if it wasn't a Republican or Trump.
Speaker 6: It's deliberately done by I think, actually on a more
Speaker 6: global level, to have a candidate who could fix America
Speaker 6: taken out so we can be kept under somebody's thumb
Speaker 6: who's doing not probably Bill Gates. I don't know.
Speaker 3: If he does get convicted, if he ends up in jail,
Speaker 3: would you still vote for him in the general election.
Speaker 9: I would vote for him because other politicians have done
Speaker 9: their political duties from jail. I definitely would vote for him.
Speaker 9: You have to, you know.
Speaker 10: It's just everyone here agreed that something's going on crooked
Speaker 10: what they're doing to him, So how can you believe
Speaker 10: anything that's going on in the courts of these affidavits
Speaker 10: or anything else they're.
Speaker 9: Going after him.
Speaker 8: I would vote for him, and I would hope that
Speaker 8: the truth would eventually come out.
Speaker 3: So thinking ahead to that general election, let's assume it's
Speaker 3: Trump versus Biden, and Trump is fighting that election from jail.
Speaker 3: Would anyone here be put off voting for Trump for
Speaker 3: that reason?
Speaker 6: I would vote for anybody who wasn't Biden, whether I
Speaker 6: like them or not.
Speaker 7: Think that it would be odd to vote for somebody
Speaker 7: that's in jail, somebody who's supposed to be running our country.
Speaker 7: The commander into you from jail doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 3: Put your hands up if you would vote for Trump
Speaker 3: in that election if he was in jail, Dana, You're
Speaker 3: a no, how come?
Speaker 5: How can you govern from jail? Like I think, even
Speaker 5: if it was not a fair process, I just don't
Speaker 5: see how you can govern effectively when you're taken out
Speaker 5: of communication that way.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's quite significant. Right. We've got four registered
Speaker 3: Republicans or independence who might lean Republican in this room,
Speaker 3: and half of you were saying wouldn't vote for Donald
Speaker 3: Trump if he was the nominee in a general election.
Speaker 8: It doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter what you say. You could say, what
Speaker 4: if he's dead, they'd still vote for him. I mean
Speaker 4: that there is no line, right, There is no line,
Speaker 4: And I.
Speaker 3: Want to come back on that.
Speaker 10: How boutifar Biden's the nominee and he's in a hospital,
Speaker 10: a mental hospital, still going to vote for him?
Speaker 4: Then didn't really address my question.
Speaker 3: If you don't know who this person is, I think
Speaker 3: you might have been living under a rock. Donald Trump
Speaker 3: a word or phrase to somewhat how you feel.
Speaker 4: I don't mean it rudely, but my word is loser.
Speaker 5: I'm confused. He's not confused. I'm confused about how I feel.
Speaker 7: Competent, competent, but I don't necessarily trust him.
Speaker 10: Competent and wavering, making America great again, unhinged.
Speaker 4: The vak Ramaswamy refreshing ideas, but not serious.
Speaker 6: Optimistic, suspiciously fake.
Speaker 9: I don't know enough VP for Trump.
Speaker 10: He's well spoken, but I don't trust them. He took
Speaker 10: money from sorrows and denied it, and so I don't
Speaker 10: trust them.
Speaker 1: He looks like a and he acts like a clear politician,
Speaker 1: but he has no shot at being a president.
Speaker 3: Nikki Hayley strong and foreign policy consensus builder.
Speaker 6: I'm afraid of completely uninformed. I don't know who she is.
Speaker 7: Kind of naive.
Speaker 8: I have to hear more about her.
Speaker 9: But she's very liberal, liberal leaning on social issues.
Speaker 10: Rhino.
Speaker 1: She seems confident, but I feel like she's not strong
Speaker 1: enough to be our president.
Speaker 4: Mike Pattins experienced, has a good temperament for the job.
Speaker 5: More of the same.
Speaker 6: Not necessarily a bad person, but not sorry anything to offer, sell.
Speaker 9: Out, Confident, kind of likes to try to please everybody,
Speaker 9: and that can be an issue sometimes.
Speaker 1: Rhino ultra ultra conservative.
Speaker 3: Next one guys Tim Scott word or phrase Tim Scott.
Speaker 4: I like him, but when I see him speak, it
Speaker 4: just seems unremarkable, like doesn't doesn't set himself apart.
Speaker 5: Strikes She's honorable.
Speaker 6: I want to say too new, but I don't. That's
Speaker 6: not quite what I want to say, but I can't
Speaker 6: think of any other words.
Speaker 9: He's more experience, he's well spoken.
Speaker 10: You make a great VP for Trump.
Speaker 1: I think he's too strict on reproductive rights.
Speaker 3: Chris Christy tells it like it is, no way.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Frank, I think he's a phony, outspoken, more liberal Rhino.
Speaker 10: If he didn't have Trump's name to mention, he won't
Speaker 10: go anywhere. Let's not forget Bridgegate.
Speaker 1: Seems like he's too in dated with the Jersey Shore.
Speaker 3: Ron de Santis.
Speaker 4: That's a strong record of getting things accomplished.
Speaker 5: Experience, morally solid.
Speaker 7: It's got a lot going for him.
Speaker 5: My Wood was experienced.
Speaker 9: Can you read for more years?
Speaker 10: He's well spoken. I think he's heart flowed in a
Speaker 10: lot of ways too, but he's well spoken. He's a
Speaker 10: takes charge guy.
Speaker 1: He certainly can talk very well, but he's done some
Speaker 1: bad things for Florida that has directly hurt you know,
Speaker 1: the elderly as well as some of the families down there.
Speaker 11: Well, you know, you've got multiple candidates on that stage
Speaker 11: that said they wouldn't touch in titlements, including Trump, and
Speaker 11: any candidate that says they're not going to touch in
Speaker 11: titlements means that they're basically going to go into the
Speaker 11: go into office, and then leave America bankrupt. Social Security
Speaker 11: is going to go bankrupt in ten years, Medicare is
Speaker 11: going to go bankrupt in eight. So the way we
Speaker 11: deal with it is we don't touch anyone's retirement or
Speaker 11: anyone who's been promised in. But we go to people
Speaker 11: like my kids in their twenties when they're coming into
Speaker 11: the system and we say the rules have changed. We
Speaker 11: change retirement age to reflect life expectancy instead of cost
Speaker 11: of living increases. We do it based on inflation. We
Speaker 11: limit the benefits on the wealthy, and we expand Medicare
Speaker 11: advantage plans.
Speaker 3: How'd you feel about the argument she's made that anyone
Speaker 3: can come in here. How'd you feel about the occument.
Speaker 1: She's not wrong. We are going to run out of
Speaker 1: money for it, and there has to be other ways
Speaker 1: that we can look for pensions and such for people
Speaker 1: that have put in their time. It's not going to
Speaker 1: be there. My age group is not going to have it.
Speaker 10: To me, it's just a scar tactic. They've been talking
Speaker 10: about this for decades and something that she says to
Speaker 10: make the vote to say, yeah, wow, she's right. But
Speaker 10: we got and increase people at Social Security. I think
Speaker 10: it was last year sometime, and it was a good increase.
Speaker 10: And for her to be saying that she needs to
Speaker 10: scale the peaceeople into voting.
Speaker 9: For her, the problem is, what's using Social Security, and
Speaker 9: you got a lot of legal immigrants coming to this
Speaker 9: country who are qualifying for some of these benefits which
Speaker 9: we're paying for, or who are younger paying for this stuff.
Speaker 9: To be using people who don't deserve to have it, it
Speaker 9: wasn't meant for that.
Speaker 6: It can't continue how it is, or it won't probably
Speaker 6: continue how it is, but I think it could be changed.
Speaker 6: Rather they're just eliminated.
Speaker 7: I believe we had a culture in America at one
Speaker 7: point where the working class benefited in their senior years
Speaker 7: after they were done working, based on what they put
Speaker 7: into the system. And now we have a system that
Speaker 7: you don't need to work and you can get the
Speaker 7: most benefits. In fact, we can penalize the rich to
Speaker 7: pay for those that don't work at all.
Speaker 5: Kind of struggling like as if I maybe I don't
Speaker 5: know something, but don't you have to pay into Social
Speaker 5: Security to get it? So the notion of people just
Speaker 5: getting it for free, I'm not quite. It feels like
Speaker 5: a talking point, but maybe you know that's not I
Speaker 5: wouldn't have come in here and said, oh, social Security's
Speaker 5: better one priorities, So I don't know.
Speaker 9: We've had neighbors who've gotten Social Security and they got
Speaker 9: on the premise either mental illness or they couldn't hear.
Speaker 9: Once they get the hearing aid in or kind of
Speaker 9: hearing it, they had to fix the problem. They could hear. Fine,
Speaker 9: they still don't have to go back to work. They
Speaker 9: still gotten Social Security, So it's becoming a handout benefit.
Speaker 1: I don't know about increasing it from my generation, like
Speaker 1: because it's just not going to work. There's too many
Speaker 1: of us. But for somebody who can't go back to
Speaker 1: work because they're physically just too old, like, we can't
Speaker 1: leave them behind for life.
Speaker 12: As governor and as vice president. And to be honest
Speaker 12: with you, Nikki, you're my friend, but consensus is the
Speaker 12: opposite of leadership. When the Supreme Court returned this question
Speaker 12: to the American people, they didn't just send it to
Speaker 12: the states. Only it's not a state's only issue.
Speaker 13: It's a moral issue.
Speaker 12: And I promise you, as President of the United States,
Speaker 12: the American people will have a champion for life in
Speaker 12: the Oval office. Can't we have a minimum standard in
Speaker 12: every state in the nation that says when a baby
Speaker 12: is capable of feeling pain, an abortion cannot be allowed.
Speaker 12: A fifteen week ban is an idea whose time has
Speaker 12: comments supported by seventy percent of.
Speaker 9: The American people.
Speaker 12: But it's going to take unapologetic leadership, leadership that stands
Speaker 12: on principle and expresses compassion. I want to women in
Speaker 12: crisis pregnancies. I'll do that as president of the United States.
Speaker 13: It is in the hands of the people, and that's
Speaker 13: where it should be. Well, when you're talking about a
Speaker 13: federal ban, be honest with the American people. We haven't
Speaker 13: had forty five pro life senators in over one hundred years,
Speaker 13: So no Republican president can ban abortions anymore than a
Speaker 13: Democrat president can ban all those states. Well, don't make
Speaker 13: women feel like they have to decide on this issue
Speaker 13: when you know we don't have sixty Senate votes in
Speaker 13: the House.
Speaker 8: I just think putting a band on it right there,
Speaker 8: to me seems like a control thing. When I think
Speaker 8: about that. Every baby is a baby, I mean from
Speaker 8: when they're conceived, and I don't think you can say
Speaker 8: fifteen weeks is a limit on it.
Speaker 6: It's a baby.
Speaker 1: I don't agree with a blanket ban. You're taking away
Speaker 1: a lot of choices for people, and not necessarily. You know,
Speaker 1: in pro of you know, an unborn child or anything
Speaker 1: like that. It's still somebody's going to find a way
Speaker 1: one way or the other. It's not going to stop happening.
Speaker 1: And you're putting a ban and you're forcing people into
Speaker 1: a corner and it's not going to help anybody.
Speaker 6: Fifteen weeks feels arbitary to me. I actually personally rather
Speaker 6: that we went back to where there was no government
Speaker 6: support for it.
Speaker 9: Save the child, take the child into adoption. People who
Speaker 9: can't have children want to have children instead of aborting
Speaker 9: them killing them. That's change the way we look at life.
Speaker 5: I still think it should be at the state's state level.
Speaker 5: I just don't agree with the whole federal oversight of that.
Speaker 5: I am a pro life candidate person, But I also
Speaker 5: think that Nikki Haley and the debate had a lot
Speaker 5: of points about consensus, like what are the things that
Speaker 5: people actually agree on? Like, I know, I understand, like
Speaker 5: intellectually that it's a human life and we shouldn't be
Speaker 5: bargaining with that, but I also think that there are
Speaker 5: things that people do agree and like you don't think
Speaker 5: a federal ban is where it's at.
Speaker 7: I'd prefer to see a federal ban on all more murder,
Speaker 7: including the on board child as well as our elderly.
Speaker 7: Any type of murder, in my mind, should be federally banned.
Speaker 3: Who would like to see that below that fifteen week man?
Speaker 3: He hands up if you'd like. Let's be love still.
Speaker 14: Okay, So we want to start on this with a
Speaker 14: show of hands. Do you believe in human behavior is
Speaker 14: causing climate change? Raise your hand if you do.
Speaker 15: Look, we're not school children. Let's have the debate. I mean,
Speaker 15: I'm happy to take it to start.
Speaker 3: They are charby one resident.
Speaker 15: I don't think that's the way to do. So let
Speaker 15: me just say to Alexander this, first of all, one
Speaker 15: of the reasons our country's declined is because of the
Speaker 15: way the corporate media treats Republicans versus Democrats. Biden was
Speaker 15: on the beach while those people were suffering.
Speaker 16: Let us be honest as Republicans. I'm the only person
Speaker 16: on the stage who isn't bought and paid for, so
Speaker 16: I can say this. The climate change agenda is a hosts.
Speaker 3: The climate change agenda is a hoax, and we have
Speaker 3: to declare independent.
Speaker 16: School And the reality is the anti carbon agenda is
Speaker 16: the wet blanket on our economy, and so the reality
Speaker 16: is more people are dying of bad climate change policies
Speaker 16: than they are of actual climate Governor's chicken.
Speaker 10: Little you know, it's algor all over again. The sky's falling.
Speaker 10: Climate change, this climate change that there. It's just another
Speaker 10: skits tactic to get people upset about what's going on.
Speaker 10: You know, maybe the polar had the day like the dinosaurs,
Speaker 10: But it.
Speaker 17: Feels like a fake topic to keep our eyes off
Speaker 17: of everything else, like blaming farmers and cows for climate change.
Speaker 6: When we can ignore the burning of tires in the
Speaker 6: middle least.
Speaker 9: There's no way we can affect the climate. What is
Speaker 9: It's a money grab for socialism, for socialistic policies, for
Speaker 9: one world government to try to take control of people
Speaker 9: like ourselves who are trying to make a living, to
Speaker 9: control our money.
Speaker 4: I believe in climate change. I've always found it interesting
Speaker 4: that Republicans, who mostly live in rural places and enjoy
Speaker 4: the environment, probably more so than Democrats, don't seem to
Speaker 4: care about the environment. So I thought that I always
Speaker 4: thought that's interesting. But I do think it's been weaponized
Speaker 4: and used as a way to push an agenda of
Speaker 4: limiting the government. I mean, the best solution I think
Speaker 4: for a lot of this is more nuclear power, and
Speaker 4: we are totally against nuclear power for reasons unknown.
Speaker 8: I'd say it's being used as a dessertant to try
Speaker 8: to get our mind, to get our thoughts, to get.
Speaker 3: Us like what they're trying to do by talking about
Speaker 3: this scare.
Speaker 10: So we can hop on board with the electric cars
Speaker 10: that are catching on fire all over the place, and
Speaker 10: there's charging stations every god knows how many miles and
Speaker 10: hopefully you don't get caught in the middle of the
Speaker 10: night of a snowstorm trying to get to one.
Speaker 3: Who benefits from from the electric cars.
Speaker 10: Yeah, the ones who are pushing it, I guess the
Speaker 10: ones who got stock in.
Speaker 7: This climate is like natural and it changes over the years.
Speaker 7: There's it's cyclic cyclical.
Speaker 3: With that Gramaswami Dad talked about it being a hoax.
Speaker 3: Who does this hoax.
Speaker 9: Serve globalist government control?
Speaker 6: I don't even know if we really know who. There
Speaker 6: are suspicions. I suppose some.
Speaker 3: Might Well, look at the science, you know this shows
Speaker 3: this an issue. You know you need to do something
Speaker 3: aboutance it.
Speaker 6: Right, Well, they're faking everything.
Speaker 1: It's not fake it's very documented, it's very clear, and
Speaker 1: climate change is happening. And anybody who's saying that, oh,
Speaker 1: there's a government conspiracy that's going to benefit from, you know,
Speaker 1: pushing this agenda, it's like it's already happening.
Speaker 6: I think climate change is very real. I think making
Speaker 6: it political is a hoax.
Speaker 3: Now, what this is is it's a mopped up newspaper
Speaker 3: front page for January twentieth, twenty twenty five. What is
Speaker 3: the kind of headline that you would expect to see
Speaker 3: on the day that Donald Trump is inaugurated, assuming that
Speaker 3: he wins the election.
Speaker 8: America is great again.
Speaker 9: If we didn't look at each other, America is great again.
Speaker 10: Welcome back.
Speaker 1: Anyone can win.
Speaker 4: Trump to lead divided country.
Speaker 5: It's a miracle.
Speaker 6: Trump promises our nation freedom.
Speaker 7: Making America great again again.
Speaker 3: It's January twentieth, twenty twenty five. It's what you'd expect
Speaker 3: to see on this front page. January twentieth, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4: Joe Biden's president bidenn't begin the second term with record
Speaker 4: number of senators not too.
Speaker 5: Old, question mark, exclamation point.
Speaker 6: America votes for another four years?
Speaker 7: Will he last another four years?
Speaker 3: Lord help us buckle up.
Speaker 9: The rides are going to be rough.
Speaker 10: We are doomed, so.
Speaker 1: To try to keep it unbiased? What to do now?
Speaker 3: But the Ukraine War? Has the funding for that been
Speaker 3: too high? About right? Or too low? Too high?
Speaker 4: I'm not convinced as being used effectively?
Speaker 7: Too high.
Speaker 5: I don't think we can afford it too high, unnecessary
Speaker 5: much too high, and I'm not sure there's enough accountability
Speaker 5: for it.
Speaker 8: Too high, and we'd like to see more accountability as
Speaker 8: to where it's going.
Speaker 9: Exactly too high, and I think some of my is
Speaker 9: going places we wouldn't want to see it. God, it's
Speaker 9: too high.
Speaker 10: That there's a lot of scamming going on with the money.
Speaker 10: And look how they forgot about MAUI.
Speaker 1: Too high, and I don't believe it should be always
Speaker 1: us paying for everything.
Speaker 3: Who would you rather say?
Speaker 12: He?
Speaker 3: Who would you rather see be the victor of that war?
Speaker 3: Ukraine Russia? Or if you don't care, so you don't care.
Speaker 7: Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, don't care Ukraine.
Speaker 9: Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine.
Speaker 3: So the Ukrainians might be watching this and go, But
Speaker 3: we need the weapons, we need the one funding to
Speaker 3: do it well seriously, say right, So what's your all
Speaker 3: went back.
Speaker 9: But it's such a kricker government.
Speaker 4: We just have a history of trying to fund the
Speaker 4: right side that we think is the right side.
Speaker 9: We look at like.
Speaker 4: Cuba and Castro, and you know, we have a hard
Speaker 4: time picking winners like that. So we could support Ukraine,
Speaker 4: but we don't need to be funding their entire military.
Speaker 10: Don't forget there's a lot of Russians in Ukraine that
Speaker 10: all flout that that are living in Ukraine. People don't
Speaker 10: realize that. They think they're all Ukrainians, but there's a
Speaker 10: lot of Russians who want Russia to take it over.
Speaker 7: I just think that America needs to be a little
Speaker 7: bit more concerned about America.
Speaker 6: And my heart goes out to Ukraine or any country
Speaker 6: that's being maybe under the sum of a larger force,
Speaker 6: but I think we need to take care of America first.
Speaker 3: Is there more than meets the eye to what the
Speaker 3: government's telling us about UFOs or is this all just
Speaker 3: jokie stile.
Speaker 4: I would have said no a few years ago, But
Speaker 4: the stuff of the Air Force pilots have seen, I
Speaker 4: think there is more out there.
Speaker 5: I do not think there's more out there.
Speaker 6: I think there could be unknown things out there, but
Speaker 6: I think it's just a smoke screen.
Speaker 8: It's possible, possibility.
Speaker 9: It's possible.
Speaker 10: I think so that they could exist.
Speaker 1: I don't think the government's hiding it, but I believe
Speaker 1: that there's something out there.
Speaker 3: And final question of guys, I mean I had to
Speaker 3: ask this as a brit what do we think of
Speaker 3: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. I want we did it
Speaker 3: for politicians. I want a word or a phrase that
Speaker 3: sums up your view of that.
Speaker 4: Couple really love getting attention and then love telling people
Speaker 4: that they don't want attention.
Speaker 6: I can't think they're losers.
Speaker 7: I don't understand what the infatuation is.
Speaker 9: I think she's a narcissist. Nobody cares.
Speaker 1: As a fellow Britt, I could care less about them.
Speaker 3: Very good, Very good, Debbie. I auld assume you've got
Speaker 3: no comment, Debbie, because it's so offensive you couldn't possibly
Speaker 3: say it. Oh