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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bou Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's fill live on a reaction Monday edition

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Speaker 2: of Cleveland Browns Daily. I am merely bo he is

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Speaker 2: the great Z. It's right there, it's right there. For

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Speaker 2: a victory Monday. There are four things, four or five,

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Speaker 2: six things if you want to go that far, that

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Speaker 2: happened that separate victory from defeat. But this is a

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Speaker 2: binary business, and wins and losses do matter, and this

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Speaker 2: instance it goes in as a loss as cruel as

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Speaker 2: it was on a Sunday afternoon. How you live in

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Speaker 2: doctor Z.

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Speaker 3: Not well?

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Speaker 4: Not great, not great. That was very frustrating. That's a

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Speaker 4: game that the Browns should have won. It's a game

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Speaker 4: that a great portion of the Cleveland Browns roster deserved

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Speaker 4: to win. You got what I would consider to be

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Speaker 4: one of the great defensive performances.

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Speaker 5: In a very very long time.

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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow was limited to four yards per attempt and

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Speaker 4: four point nine yards a completion. Yeah, Chase Brown was

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Speaker 4: held to two yards of carry. T Higgins and Jamar

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Speaker 4: Chase combined for fifty nine yards receiving, which is fewer

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Speaker 4: than Jerry Judy on his own, fewer than Dylan Sampson

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Speaker 4: on his own, fewer than Harold Fannin on his own,

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Speaker 4: and just seven more than Cedri Tillman on his own.

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Speaker 4: The Bengals gained seven yards in the second.

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Speaker 2: Half run that back.

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Speaker 4: The Bengals gained seven yards in the second half net

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Speaker 4: and the Browns after the opening possession of the second

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Speaker 4: half led sixteen to fourteen. So from the point that

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Speaker 4: the Browns were in the lead, the Bengals gained a

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Speaker 4: grand total of seven yards and won this football game.

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Speaker 4: And that is because they were able to get a

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Speaker 4: field goal after an interception. Of course, Browns, why would

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Speaker 4: they be at sixteen? Well, they miss an extra point,

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Speaker 4: they would also miss another field goal attempt. Kicking has

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Speaker 4: failed the Browns and Kevin Stefanski far too long and

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Speaker 4: far too often, and it's really one of those things

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Speaker 4: that is so difficult as a Browns fan, I think

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Speaker 4: to get your head around. Andre Schmidz got to make

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Speaker 4: those kicks. Line, You're you were the guy they went

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Speaker 4: with you. You need to put those through. Here's some

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Speaker 4: numbers from True Media Sports. Ex Jackson tweeted this out earlier.

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Speaker 4: Stefanski is fifteen and six in one score games without

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Speaker 4: a missed kick, fifteen and six, eight and fifteen in

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Speaker 4: one score games with one or more points so an

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Speaker 4: extra point or a field goal loss to miss kicks

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Speaker 4: in one score losses under Kevin Stefanski missed kicks of

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Speaker 4: Costa Brown's two point two points per game. That's the

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Speaker 4: most in the NFL. This is a serious problem. And

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty three you had to Dustin Hopkins be as

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Speaker 4: good as anybody could be, and without that, that's maybe

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Speaker 4: a six win team. Yeah, but he was that good

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Speaker 4: and so you won. This is a team we talked

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Speaker 4: about going back to the very beginning. This is a

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Speaker 4: Browns team that's gonna play great defense. They're gonna run

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Speaker 4: the ball, You're gonna want to hit some shot plays

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Speaker 4: with Joe Flacco, and at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: you're gonna play a lot of tight games and it's

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Speaker 4: gonna come down to I mean, I think I said

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Speaker 4: this verbatim exactly, kicking and special teams just being solid.

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Speaker 5: You said, just be even, just be even. That's it.

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Speaker 4: But we knew these were gonna be a lot of

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Speaker 4: why we're so troubled about Dustin hopkins struggles. They go

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Speaker 4: with Schmidt, who was perfect in the preseason, perfect in

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Speaker 4: the first half, and then you lose a game.

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Speaker 5: This defense.

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Speaker 4: I mean, folks, Cincinnati, maybe Baltimore, Buffalo are better offenses,

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Speaker 4: but they're right there.

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Speaker 2: They're right there. They've been the best pass offense in football,

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Speaker 5: Joe Burrow fourteen of twenty three for one hundred and

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Speaker 4: He's about five yards per attempt, five yards an attempt,

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Speaker 5: And why in that case. Are you unable to cat apparaize.

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Speaker 2: Because drop passes. You have to drop passes.

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Speaker 4: You have situations where and after that one you had

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Speaker 4: So six things miss extra point, mixed, missed field goal,

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Speaker 4: air for the first interception. That leads directly to the

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Speaker 5: After that, here were their possessions.

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Speaker 4: It's seventeen sixteen, three plays one yard, three plays negative

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Speaker 5: That's frustrating.

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Speaker 4: That is as dominant a defensive performance as you could

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Speaker 4: the first half. They settled in nicely, quite frankly. None

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, yeah, that's that I think is what

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Speaker 2: is so frustrating, because this is the NFL, and there

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Speaker 2: are no moral victories in the NFL. Its wins and losses,

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Speaker 2: and that's it. But if you and I, if you

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Speaker 2: go back to our show on Friday and you break down,

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Speaker 2: you know kind of what we were hoping the roadmap

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Speaker 2: This is every one of the boxes. The score is

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Speaker 2: the box that's checked. The style of playoffensively is the

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Speaker 2: box that's checked. I'm not sure I would have had

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Speaker 2: forty five attempts from Joe Flacco, but some of that

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Speaker 2: game with it was tough for us to run, couldn't.

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Speaker 2: So the passing game became basically an extended run game

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Speaker 2: and took the stuff underneath over and over again. But

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Speaker 2: Flaka was incredibly accurate in this game. The two interceptions

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Speaker 2: for sure deserved better among many. But you're in the

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Speaker 2: has aspirations for the Super Bowl. You're at home. It's

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Speaker 2: the opener. It's the type of game that everything went

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Speaker 2: according to script except for those six things that you mentioned.

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Speaker 2: And it's that really even it drops and I know

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Speaker 2: we were bad in the league last year and drops

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Speaker 2: as well, but you just can't have miss field goals,

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Speaker 2: missed extra points. You cannot have balls that hit receivers

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Speaker 2: it's I don't know. Maybe it would have been easier

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Speaker 2: yesterday if if we just weren't on their level, if

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Speaker 2: they just bullied us. You're just like, oh what, we're

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Speaker 2: just not We're not good enough. You and I've done

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Speaker 2: those We've done those seasons where it's been we're just

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Speaker 2: not good enough. We can't hang with those teams. That's

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Speaker 2: not what happened here. That's not you took it to them.

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Speaker 2: You punched them in the mouth over and over and

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Speaker 2: over again. Joe Burrow, I don't know if you'll ever

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Speaker 2: What are we doing? Miles hit him the one time

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Speaker 2: when he came Joe got it out. When Miles stunted

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Speaker 2: terrifying a shot a quarterback is ever going to take

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Speaker 4: Yes, that videos, that's it. By the way, he completed

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Speaker 4: that pass to Jibar Chase.

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Speaker 2: He stood in there and it was DeMar Chase has had.

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Speaker 4: One foot out of bounds, so it didn't get both

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Speaker 4: second half as you could ask for two sacks, four

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Speaker 4: tackles for a loss four. Yeah, led the league in

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Speaker 4: He had two passes defense. Denzel had a pass defense.

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Speaker 4: Isaiah Maguire had a sack and a couple of tackles

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Speaker 4: for US. Carson Swetzinger was all over the field, eight tackles.

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Speaker 4: Devin Bush was all over the field, former first round

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Speaker 2: Fine, they played great.

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Speaker 5: They played great, especially those two who were out there,

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Speaker 4: I think that it's such a disappointing loss. It was

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Speaker 4: absolutely a game that you should have won. I think

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Speaker 4: the offensive stats of the Bengals, you would say the

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Speaker 4: Browns would win. I know, it's been twenty five years

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Speaker 4: since the team has lost. Giving up just seven yards

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Speaker 4: negative What did I say? Twenty three yards of offense

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Speaker 2: Fourth quarter? Yeah, yep, it's.

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Speaker 4: Unfathomable that we would lose that. We've got to do

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Speaker 4: a better job obviously. The two drops, drops turning in interceptions,

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Speaker 4: all of those things, those hurt you. We still have

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Speaker 4: to do a better job of scoring. This was not

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Speaker 4: a very good defense last year. Joe Flacco played much

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Speaker 4: better than the box scored. Indicate those two interceptions I

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Speaker 4: would not put on him, but just a very disappointing,

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Speaker 4: dis pointing loss and one that you know you should

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Speaker 4: have won. That you should have won this game. You

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Speaker 4: should have won it. We had four drops in this game.

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Speaker 4: By the way, Brown's last year, thirty one drops on

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Speaker 4: the season led the NFL. So that is a it's

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Speaker 4: a problem problem kicking last year, kicking this problem. So

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Speaker 4: some of the problems of last year have carried over.

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Speaker 4: And the Browns lose a game that they absolutely should

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Speaker 4: have win, they do.

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Speaker 2: And it's the other things that are You know, you

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Speaker 2: feel pretty dang good about Dylan Samson, who caught everything

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Speaker 2: I mean, my god, he took a wildcat snap. He's

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Speaker 2: ended up being the Did he have the most targets? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: But he can play. There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 4: But there's a lot to like about what the Browns did,

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Speaker 4: But ultimately that bitter taste overrides it. You win this game,

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Speaker 2: Six catchable balls, I'm sorry, four catchable balls. Two end

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Speaker 2: That's six things, five drives, six things, because one happened

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Speaker 2: These are for most teams. Fluky things. Drops are fluky.

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Speaker 2: We can't make kicks and we can't catch the ball.

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Speaker 2: a win because the wind's there. That's the hard You

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Speaker 2: didn't get bullied. It's not like, oh, we didn't have

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Speaker 2: and in fact, you outplayed them for the whole afternoon.

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Speaker 4: just looking through this real quickly here. Tennessee had sixty two.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's it, Tennessee.

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Speaker 6: Well you hit it.

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Speaker 4: Negative twenty three yards in the fourth quarter. It's unbelievable,

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Speaker 4: it really is. It's it's an unbelievable thing. The Browns

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Speaker 5: Only better in terms of total in.

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Speaker 2: You didn't play a rookie. You played the best passing

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Speaker 5: That's right for me a year ago, that's right.

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Speaker 8: Yay.

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Speaker 3: Injury front Jack Conklin is doing better.

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Speaker 9: He got poked in the eye yesterday, but he's doing

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Speaker 9: it much much better than yesterday. Obviously, like we talked

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Speaker 9: You're not going to win those type of games, so we'll.

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Speaker 3: Learn from it.

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Speaker 9: Guys are in meetings right now watching this tape and

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Speaker 9: But with that, I'll take any questions, Well, yeah.

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Speaker 9: Yeah for me and Mark, Okay, I'm still focused on yesterday. Obviously,

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Speaker 11: Hey, Kevin, did was the plan to control the ball

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just a result, Scott.

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Speaker 11: The biggest issues with the.

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Speaker 3: Run game were multifaceted.

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Speaker 9: I think you have to give credit to them. We

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Speaker 9: can do a better job as coaches and giving the

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Speaker 9: guys a plan. There are one on one matchups that

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Speaker 9: we have to win, and that's the run game. If

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Speaker 9: you're not winning in one spot, that person can fall

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Speaker 9: off and make a play if you do when you're

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Speaker 9: one on one matchup, those are where big yards can

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Speaker 9: be had.

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Speaker 3: So we will get back to work there.

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Speaker 12: Kevin, what is the plan this week with quin Shawn

447
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Speaker 12: junk Judkins. Can he be ready for Sunday?

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Speaker 3: We'll see. Tony got to get through this week of practice.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 12: And my second question is, I asked you yesterday about

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Speaker 12: the short yardage creativity you had back in the owner's meetings.

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Speaker 12: You had mentioned that, like Blugrind, it was kind of

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Speaker 12: like a pet project of his short yardede situations, and

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Speaker 12: yesterday you said you haven't emptied the playbook at all.

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Speaker 12: That could you expand on just your team's philosophy now

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Speaker 12: on the short yardage packages that you might have.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I don't want to expand too much, as

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Speaker 9: you can imagine, but I think if you pulled every

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Speaker 9: line coach in the NFL, they would be very excited

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Speaker 9: and light up when you talk about short gardis and

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Speaker 9: goal line. So I think more what I'm speaking there

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Speaker 9: to Tony is coach Bloomgren's affinity for physicality and those

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Speaker 9: moments when you need one yard, and I think it's

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Speaker 9: coach Bloomgreen it's Ben Wilkerson, it's Sanders Davis. Our offensive

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Speaker 9: line coaches as a group do a great job in

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Speaker 9: those areas, both by design and how that you design

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Speaker 9: those s games, but also how you coach those schemes

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Speaker 9: because a lot of times it's not real complicated, but

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Speaker 9: it is something where it does become a mentality type

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Speaker 9: of football.

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Speaker 12: Are they also kind of appointment for your two point package?

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Speaker 3: I'd probably say less so, and I think that'd probably

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Speaker 3: be true around the league.

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Speaker 13: Hey, Kevin, I want to ask you how Dwyane Jones

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Speaker 13: held up? After looking at the film at left tackle.

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Speaker 13: We saw some penalties, some that were negated, But how

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Speaker 13: did he do overall?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: I think there were good moments and some bad moments.

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Speaker 9: He needs to just be constant for us and play

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Speaker 9: like I know he's capable of playing. And again there's

482
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Speaker 9: good moments out there versus a very good rusher, But

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Speaker 9: I do feel like he can play better.

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Speaker 13: What about those young guys behind Denzel and Greg Knew?

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Speaker 13: Somehow they do in their first look, you know, in

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Speaker 13: the multiple sets in the secondary.

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Speaker 3: Specifically freel Harden, Cam Mitchell. Sure, yeah, young guy wise.

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Speaker 9: You know, obviously Miles has played the least of those guys,

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Speaker 9: but I thought he acquitted himself nicely, was good in

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Speaker 9: the run in the past. Cam's a guy that's played

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Speaker 9: for us quite a bit. We trust him, and Rayshawn

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Speaker 9: I thought was good in his role as well.

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Speaker 14: Hey, Kevin, just after watching the film so far, how

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Speaker 14: did you think Greg did on the outside? It looks

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Speaker 14: like i'm the matchup data from PFF. They had him

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Speaker 14: with two targets facing jamar ches, no catches, a pass breakup,

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Speaker 14: So just how do you think he did on the outside?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, he did really well. It was good to see

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Speaker 9: Greg out there competing. As you guys know, that's a

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Speaker 9: excellent team. It's an excellent offense, it's an excellent pass offense.

501
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Speaker 9: So our guys met the challenge and did a nice job.

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Speaker 14: And then just with the defense as a whole, A

503
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Speaker 14: couple of the guys talked about like, even though they

504
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Speaker 14: played obviously so so well in the second half, like

505
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Speaker 14: starting faster, what does that look like? I guess is

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Speaker 14: it as simple as game changing plays, takeaways that sort

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Speaker 14: of thing, or I guess.

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Speaker 3: How would you define it in terms of starting faster? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know a lot of it.

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Speaker 9: We probably had more mental errors in the first drive

511
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Speaker 9: than we did the entire game, So it just weren't clean.

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Speaker 9: And it wasn't a lot, but just too many things

513
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Speaker 9: that we didn't have clean. Early post on that first

514
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Speaker 9: drive specifically settled into the game and I thought did

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Speaker 9: a nice job. But as we all know that this

516
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Speaker 9: game is a sixty minute game, and minute one is

517
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Speaker 9: as important as minute sixty, so we certainly have to

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Speaker 9: be playing our best ball at the beginning and the end.

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Speaker 7: Hey, Kevin, I hear you say what you did about Andre,

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Speaker 7: but with a kicker, not specifically just him. How difficult

521
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Speaker 7: is that to know when hey, yeah, we really have

522
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Speaker 7: to make a change on this guy.

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Speaker 3: I think, listen, we trust our guys.

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Speaker 9: We get to watch our guys work, we get to

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Speaker 9: watch them all off season, all training camp, preseason practices, games,

526
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Speaker 9: all those things. So we trust our guys to come

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Speaker 9: through for us.

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Speaker 3: And I know a lot of.

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Speaker 9: Credit and blame gets doled out after wins and losses,

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Speaker 9: but this is a team game and we'll own this

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Speaker 9: one together as a loss.

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Speaker 15: Kevin, Dylan Samson had twelve carries, but he was really

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Speaker 15: involved in that passing game a lot, So for you guys.

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Speaker 15: Did that have a lot to do with what you

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Speaker 15: were able to see from him with that maybe increased

536
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Speaker 15: workload over the summer, with him being so featured with

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Speaker 15: injuries and quinch On being out, And how did you

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Speaker 15: think that he looked in that one, especially as the

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Speaker 15: game went on.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I thought Cam, he did a nice job. You know,

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Speaker 9: we've all talked about these young players. This is their

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Speaker 9: first game and there's gonna be jitters and all those

543
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Speaker 9: type of things that go with it. And I expect

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Speaker 9: all these guys, the young guys in particular, to get

545
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Speaker 9: better with every game. And I thought Dylan did a

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Speaker 9: nice job. He was out there because we trust him.

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Speaker 9: He has the ability in the run and the pass

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Speaker 9: game to affect the game.

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Speaker 3: But it's all things like you mentioned that we've seen

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Speaker 3: in practice.

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Speaker 15: Asked you about that defensive end opposite of Miles Garrett,

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Speaker 15: whether it be Isaiah McGuire or Alex Right. Isaiah obviously

553
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Speaker 15: made a big stack there in that game. What have

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Speaker 15: you seen from him in his development that led you

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Speaker 15: to go with him and have him out there.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that's just been his body of work. Cam,

557
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Speaker 9: going back to last season and into the offseason program

558
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Speaker 9: into training camp. He's been a very steady player for us,

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Speaker 9: a very physical football player, and he did a nice job.

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Speaker 16: Kevin, just going back to the kicker again, just with

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Speaker 16: you and Bubba looking at the film, what do you

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Speaker 16: think of the old inness snap on the two miss cakes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Again, we'll just keep coaching our guys up. You know,

565
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Speaker 9: we're looking for everybody just to do their job in

566
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Speaker 9: every phase, but anywhere where we feel like we can

567
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Speaker 9: do better, we'll just keep coaching them up.

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Speaker 16: Okay, And then next Gen had you in one two

569
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Speaker 16: personnel a little more than half the time. Think it

570
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Speaker 16: was your highest rate since your first year in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 16: Just how effective did you think those packages were? And

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Speaker 16: you know Harold had a couple key catches, but what

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Speaker 16: do you think of his blocking?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think every game's gonna stand on its own

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Speaker 9: in terms of what personnel groupings you feature. And there's

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Speaker 9: reasons to be in a bunch of different personnel groupings

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Speaker 9: based on the opponent, who your players are, those type

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Speaker 9: of things. And I thought Harold very similarly to the

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Speaker 9: conversation about Dylan, it's a lot of these young guys

580
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Speaker 9: in their first extended exposure in a regular season game.

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Speaker 9: We're not perfect, but I thought really did a nice

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Speaker 9: job overall, and we'll only build on that. And Harold,

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Speaker 9: I thought really competed hard. That's one of the things

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Speaker 9: you love about him out there, whether it's the balls

585
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Speaker 9: in his hand or not, He's giving you everything he's got.

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Speaker 17: Kevin another young guy raheem being able to get that touchdown,

587
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Speaker 17: punch that touchd on in for you guys, what did

588
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Speaker 17: you just see from him and especially in that you know,

589
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Speaker 17: set of plays and being able to score that touchdown

590
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Speaker 17: and just his acclamation to the team since he's gotten here.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, he's a guy that we're getting up to speed

592
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Speaker 9: Kelsey every day. I feel like with his size, he

593
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Speaker 9: was the right person for our short yard goal line package.

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Speaker 9: Again that that's a week to week type of thing,

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Speaker 9: but I thought he ran behind his pads both on

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Speaker 9: the fourth and one. I guess it was that, and

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Speaker 9: I guess a fourth down down to the goal line

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Speaker 9: as well.

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Speaker 18: Hey, coach, after getting a chance to watch a film,

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Speaker 18: it's kind of rare you put so many rookies and

601
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Speaker 18: pivotal roles like this, So you know, how impressed were

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Speaker 18: you with their performances kind of going down the line

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Speaker 18: from Samson to Schwelessender.

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Speaker 9: Well, you know, justin and a lot of time this

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Speaker 9: offseason talking about this class of guys, and I made

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Speaker 9: the comment. I can't remember if it was to you

607
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Speaker 9: guys or not, but I've made the comment. It's it's

608
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Speaker 9: a in volume. It's a lot of rookies, but they

609
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Speaker 9: don't act like rookies, and I don't consider them rookies

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Speaker 9: at this point. They're guys that were counting on. They're

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Speaker 9: guys that that really work at their craft, and that's

612
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Speaker 9: been the case since they got on campus here, and

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Speaker 9: you really can go down the line with all of them.

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Speaker 9: They all are very serious about their job. They all

615
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Speaker 9: work very hard, and they all will continue to get better.

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Speaker 18: And then with Harold there, we saw that him take

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Speaker 18: that direct snap at one point in the game.

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Speaker 3: Do you guys plan to use him.

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Speaker 18: Kind of in that role in short yardages and at

620
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Speaker 18: all or do you plan on using him in that way.

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Speaker 6: Anymore of this season?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Game dependent.

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Speaker 9: You know, there's he had a lot of versatility in

624
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Speaker 9: his game. So when there's players with versatility, we're gonna

625
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Speaker 9: find ways to use them. But very very game dependent.

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Speaker 3: Did you guys rep that a lot to and camp?

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Speaker 9: You know a lot of that first week And I'm

628
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Speaker 9: sure this is true for every team. There's a lot

629
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Speaker 9: of stuff that you have so many reps on going

630
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Speaker 9: back through the spring, end of the summer and week

631
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Speaker 9: one is a lot of quote unquote best of stuff

632
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Speaker 9: that was good in camp and you want to get

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Speaker 9: it to the field. So there's not to say that

634
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Speaker 9: you use everything. It's not like it's a you know,

635
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Speaker 9: a fifty play type thing, but there are things that

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Speaker 9: you're comfortable with because the players are comfortable with it.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Kevin, I actually have two questions if you don't mind.

638
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Speaker 10: The first one is did you catch the end of

639
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Speaker 10: the Ravens Bills game last night? And you know, I'm

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Speaker 10: sure you're familiar with it.

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Speaker 13: If not, do you.

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Speaker 10: Feel like that even creates it's going to create even

643
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Speaker 10: more sense of urgency on their part now to be

644
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Speaker 10: at home and to you know, and to go out

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Speaker 10: there and win this game on Sunday. I mean, two

646
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Speaker 10: teams coming off of tough losses.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I watched it this morning, Mary Kay. Obviously we

648
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Speaker 9: know it's a division opponent for us. It's bald and

649
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,719
Speaker 9: more who we know well, they know us well. We

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Speaker 9: expect it to be hard fought like it always is.

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Speaker 10: And then my second question is when you went back

652
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Speaker 10: and watched the Joe interceptions. I know he was under

653
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Speaker 10: duress on the first one, and I know Jerry laid

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Speaker 10: out and tried to make a nice diving catch there.

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Speaker 10: But are these two picks where you kind of cut

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Speaker 10: Joe a little bit of slack because obviously they were

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Speaker 10: both reflected, or do these still go on the quarterback

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Speaker 10: side of the ledger.

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Speaker 9: Well, I'm not going to get in the specifics necessarily

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Speaker 9: on those two plays, Mary Kay, other than to say

661
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,479
Speaker 9: we trust our guys. We got to be clean and

662
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 9: it takes everybody. You know, I've said to you guys before.

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Speaker 9: Not all interceptions are created equal. Sometimes the defense makes

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Speaker 9: a great play, sometimes the ball gets batted in the air.

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Speaker 3: All those type of things. We have to just learn

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Speaker 3: from them.

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Speaker 9: There are definitely things that we can do better on

668
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Speaker 9: those plays, and we have to because those should be

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Speaker 9: completion plays both will result in a first down and

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Speaker 9: keep our offense on the field. That's one of the

671
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Speaker 9: things that is tough because it takes our offense off

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Speaker 9: the field. Which you know, we had a lot of

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Speaker 9: confidence in what we were doing.

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Speaker 11: And Kevin was Jack the only injury coming out of yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay, And you.

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Speaker 11: Know after the game, Joe Flacco said he thought the

677
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Speaker 11: inexperience showed up a little bit. Did you notice that

678
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Speaker 11: when you're watching, whether it's miss Stacy, you could say, Okay,

679
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Speaker 11: this is because these guys haven't played a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hard to say.

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Speaker 9: We certainly were not perfect yesterday, and I myself included,

682
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Speaker 9: our coaches included, we can do better, so we'll learn

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Speaker 9: from those.

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Speaker 3: But hard to say.

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Speaker 12: You having a couple of players after the game, notably

686
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Speaker 12: Flacco and Judy had the attitude like, we'll find out

687
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Speaker 12: a lot more about ourselves how we react to this

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00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 12: adverse loss. Was that the message you carried after the

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Speaker 12: game to them?

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Speaker 6: And do you agree with that?

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Speaker 9: Well, there's a lot of messages after a game like that, Tony,

692
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 9: and but it's obvious and it's true.

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Speaker 3: You want to come.

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Speaker 9: Away with those from those games with a win, and

695
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 9: the disappointment is is real. The other thing that's real

696
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 9: is we got a game this week and you got

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Speaker 9: to turn the page. And that's what we'll do as

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Speaker 9: a football team. We'll learn from this one, but it's

699
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Speaker 9: Ravens Week for us once we get done with these meetings,

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Speaker 9: and that's where all of our focus will go.

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Speaker 12: And the other thing was the first drive by Cincinnati.

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Speaker 12: It seemed like either they were double team in Mason

703
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Speaker 12: Graham or running right at him and then he.

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Speaker 6: Had success as the game went on.

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Speaker 12: Was that the result of adjustments on your part defensively

706
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Speaker 12: or in general Mason Graham's game?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I would tell you there's certainly a lot of

708
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Speaker 9: adjustments that we were making throughout the game on defense

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Speaker 9: and including posts that first drive. A lot of times

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Speaker 9: adjustments are happening in during drives or just in between series.

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Speaker 9: But I thought Jim and the staff did a great

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Speaker 9: job making some adjustments, and I thought Mason had a

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Speaker 9: good game. I thought he was disruptive. There's a couple

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Speaker 9: of plays that I know he wants back and he

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Speaker 9: wants to make plays, but he was playing, did a

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Speaker 9: nice job in his first game in our scheme.

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Speaker 3: All stuff that he can build on.

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Speaker 2: All Right, there you go, Coach Stefanski. After a very

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Speaker 2: tough loss obviously on Sunday and a tough opponent coming

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Speaker 2: Week one almost in the books A fun one tonight

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Speaker 2: with the with the Bears and the Vikings two young quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Very curious what that looks like. But the NFL delivered

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Speaker 2: in every single window is your let's do this. What

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Speaker 2: was something that happened this weekend that you went WHOA

742
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Speaker 2: positively negatively?

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Speaker 4: The Miami Dolphins ineptitude and then the fact that Daniel

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00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 4: Jones is the only quarterback that we know of who

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00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 4: has led a team to have scores on every single

746
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Speaker 4: possession everyone, it's crazy. I feel like Jayden Daniels did

747
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Speaker 4: something similar last year.

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Speaker 2: He had a game like that, I want to say,

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Speaker 2: against Cincinnati where he didn't they outscore him like forty

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Speaker 2: eight forty five or something, and he In my head,

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Speaker 2: it feels.

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Speaker 5: Like maybe, but they said that Daniel Jones is the

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Speaker 5: only one only would ever.

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Speaker 2: Do it to score it, to score on every single

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Speaker 2: possession this calt they scored on every possession that they had.

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Speaker 2: So maybe there was like a kneel down in the

757
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 2: fourth quarter in this at halftime or something, you know,

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00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 2: because and also when you're ahead sometimes you kneel at

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00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: the end, so that that could be it. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: that one jumped out. Miami's ineptitude was was just totally stunning.

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Speaker 8: To me.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what the two teams that played opposite us,

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers with the four touchdowns versus just the eight

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Speaker 2: in completions, some big time throws in a win against

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Speaker 2: the Jets. But the Jets are going to be frisky.

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Speaker 2: The Jets with Justin Fields, they're going to be frisky.

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Speaker 2: I think he was sixteen to twenty two throwing. He

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Speaker 2: ran for two touchdowns as well. They they are going

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Speaker 2: to be a really frisky team in that in that

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Speaker 2: AFC East So and that kind of surprised me a

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Speaker 2: little bit, like just how well they played against pittsburghcause

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Speaker 2: they really they they could move it. They got a

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Speaker 2: lot of weapons and they could move it. Jalen Ramsey

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Speaker 2: had a hit for it with Pitts. Really did well

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh's You thought that would be the case, unfortunately, but

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Speaker 2: that that would be the case.

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Speaker 3: In that one.

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Speaker 2: The couple other things the we you and I didn't

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Speaker 2: talk about the game Friday, Kansas City's got I mean,

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Speaker 2: I want those back. Those are overreactions. They play Philly

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Speaker 2: this week. They don't look in the same vicinity as Philly.

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Speaker 4: No, to be fair, Rashi Rice is out. He's out

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Speaker 4: six games, though, Xavier Worthy got knocked out and he's

784
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Speaker 4: on the third play of the game, right he ran

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Speaker 4: into Travis Kelcey separated his shoulder. Yeah, well, that's that's massive.

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Speaker 4: How many if you took aj Brown and DeVante Smith

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Speaker 4: off of the Eagles, or if you took Brown, Chase,

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Speaker 4: Jamar Chase and t Higgins. If you take your two

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Speaker 4: top receivers off, there are a lot of teams that

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00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 4: are going to look quite as explosive.

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Speaker 2: You're right. And the other thing that's crazy about that

792
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 2: is all you need to know to kind of further

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Speaker 2: buttress your point is hollybird Wood. Brown had sixteen targets yep,

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Speaker 2: Friday night.

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Speaker 4: In that one, we had sixteen of the of the

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Speaker 4: thirty eight targeted passes, so almost half.

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Speaker 2: Way almost half way to him. Conversely, the Chargers look

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Speaker 2: really good. Yeah, Joe All at tackle was like nothing.

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Speaker 2: They got nothing on him and they got a lot

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Speaker 2: of weapons. And Herbert looks incredible. Herbert's a stud, I mean,

801
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Speaker 2: we know, but he played a long time and he

802
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Speaker 2: hasn't been able to bust through in the postseason. Doesn't

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Speaker 2: have a postseason win, they missed the playoffs. Sometimes it's

804
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Speaker 2: like how their talent should be there. He looked incredible

805
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Speaker 2: and ready to take a step.

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Speaker 4: Yeah he did, and they got Omaron Hampton's a big hammer.

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Speaker 4: They got to give him a little bit more space

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Speaker 4: to get going downhill. But yeah, I like that team.

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Speaker 4: Lad McConkie's good. Quintin Johnston was their former first round pick,

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Speaker 4: had a great game. Keenan Allen looks like he still

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Speaker 4: very much has it so plenty of weapons and uh yeah,

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Speaker 4: that division is I think the top three teams in

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Speaker 4: that division are all really good.

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Speaker 5: That's gonna be fun to watch.

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Speaker 4: Like I'm not counting the Chiefs out, but it's it's

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Speaker 4: very hard to operate without your top two receivers. It

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Speaker 4: is Jefferson and Addison off of Minnesota, they would have problems.

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Speaker 4: Devonte Smith and A J. Brown that would be problematic.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's just it's a hard thing to overcome. Yes,

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Speaker 4: your quarterback elevant everybody around you, but Hallood Brown's best

821
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Speaker 4: days are behind him. Jujus muth Schuster's best days are

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Speaker 4: well behind him.

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Speaker 2: There were two other things both that happened. Geez, just

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Speaker 2: casuals on a Monday. Nothing to see here, little baby Blue,

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Speaker 2: little nothing to see here a little little light khaki,

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Speaker 2: maybe a stone nice sneaker out of the out of

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Speaker 2: the swag. I thought the two most impressive talent versus

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Speaker 2: talent the Quaits games were the Packers annihilating the Lions

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Speaker 2: in Lambeau. It was already ridiculous defense. Jeff Afley, people

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Speaker 2: around here know him well from his years at High

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Speaker 2: State stud and well that's true. Yeah, And and just

832
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 2: their defense and you had parsons to it. Detroit is

833
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 2: not just losing their two coordinators from last year, they

834
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Speaker 2: lose eight coaches off their staff from last year. And

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Speaker 2: and they looked quite honestly, pretty lost in that one.

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Speaker 2: And then the other one, obviously was the Sunday Nighter.

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Speaker 4: Which was probably going to be the game of the year.

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Speaker 4: I mean, certainly it is the front runner, and I

839
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Speaker 4: think it will have a it'll be difficult to maybe

840
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Speaker 4: unseat it as the top game of the year. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that was incredible. The Ravens fourth collapses in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 4: You go back a few years ago, remember is Miami

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Speaker 4: through for four hundred yards in the fourth quarter. They've

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Speaker 4: had some real collapses that have been I think very shocking.

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Speaker 4: Is a game that they should win one hundred times

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Speaker 4: out of one hundred. They were the better team. They

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Speaker 4: took quite frankly, they took it to Buffalo for a.

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Speaker 5: Very very long while. At one point it was I believe.

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Speaker 4: Thirty at the end of the third, if I have

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Speaker 4: a right, I think it was thirty four to twenty

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Speaker 4: at the end of the third, thirty four to nineteen.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, at the end of the third, Well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were up sixteen, weren't they up sixteen?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they're up forty to twenty five. You're right as forty.

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Speaker 4: Forty forty to twenty five. Yeah, yeah, with four minutes

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Speaker 4: to go, Yeah, go handle your business. That's where they

857
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Speaker 4: should have gone to seventeen. They should have gone for.

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Speaker 5: The two point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, your point on that. Neither of those those teams

860
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 2: are going anywhere. Nothing is changing my opinion of Baltimore

861
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 2: based on what happened yesterday. Just sometimes strange things happen

862
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: in this league.

863
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Speaker 4: And if Kean Coleman continues on the trajectory that he

864
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Speaker 4: appears to be on, that is going to be He's

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Speaker 4: going to be there number one. He's going to be

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Speaker 4: that answer to who's the number one?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you look at He was a stud at FSU,

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Speaker 2: so it'll it just maybe tell you a little while longer.

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Speaker 2: There's a play, there's a this, This is how thin

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Speaker 2: the margins are, and we dealt with this in our game.

871
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Speaker 2: Buffalo's field goal at the end of the half.

872
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 5: That clock appeared to be moving very slowly.

873
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 2: I don't disagree. I don't disagree. But they got it in.

874
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 5: They got it in.

875
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 2: They got it in, and Alan makes a throw, rolling left,

876
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 2: throwing to a spot if Khalil Shakur kind of went

877
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: and got it, yep, he's I mean the other the corner,

878
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 2: the corner of the near corner for Baltimore is right there,

879
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 2: right there, and Shakira just beats him to it. Otherwise

880
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 2: I think it's picked obviously. I think Shakira just came

881
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 2: in like a missile. Otherwise, I think that guy picks

882
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 2: it and gets his feet down all of it, and

883
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: then somehow you get that field goal, and then that

884
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 2: changes it. Folks. This is the thing in this league.

885
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: There's not that much difference between the best and the worst. No,

886
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 2: there just isn't. This isn't college football where it's seventy

887
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 2: to nothing like that type of stuff. Doesn't happen even

888
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 2: in the most lopsided of matchups. It's not that different.

889
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 2: They're all pros, right, Yeah, So this is an instance

890
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 2: where the talent equated absolutely between Buffalo and Baltimore. I

891
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 2: think Baltimore is a little more talented, but it just

892
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: came down to a couple of things here and there

893
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 2: that don't normally happen that result in Buffalo getting the win.

894
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty wild.

895
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 4: And then in Atlanta, I'd say that was another game

896
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 4: that was came down to it. You know, the beginning

897
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 4: of the game, Bake was kind of under fifty percent,

898
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 4: was struggling.

899
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 2: He hovered around fifty percent for much of the game.

900
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, just seventeen of thirty two one hundred and sixty

901
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 4: seven yards, three touchdowns, two to Abuca. The last touchdown

902
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 4: pass was insanely good.

903
00:42:58,400 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 5: It was from the pocket.

904
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 4: Falcons really probably feel like they should have won the game,

905
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 4: and I think that's probably fair. But young Wayku misses

906
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 4: another field goal, It's like, how many teams teams who

907
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 4: make field goals win, teams who miss field goals loose.

908
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 4: I mean, it just kind of feels that's the way

909
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 4: that it is right now in the NFL and Cou's was.

910
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: It a forty yarder?

911
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 5: It was like forty four.

912
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just missed it.

913
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 4: That would have sent it to overtime. But Pennix is

914
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 4: incredible down the stretch. Lead him down the field.

915
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 5: He looks good. That's a that one's going to loom large.

916
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 4: I think in that division it's pretty clear that that's

917
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 4: a two hoss race for that, no doubt, no doubt.

918
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 4: Carolina is not good and the Saints are borderline dreadful.

919
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 2: Saints are completely dreadful. A couple other things. In terms

920
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 2: of Marky rookies' first two picks, cam Ward played better

921
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 2: than his nets would lead you to believe, much much

922
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 2: better than statistically they have no weapons for him. I mean,

923
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: it's Redley, but he had a bad drop. Yeah, it's

924
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 2: a tough spot, but he played much better than the

925
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: score line would lead you to believe. I was skeptical.

926
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 2: I can't remember if I had Denver in the playoffs

927
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 2: or not. If I did put him in, I might

928
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: ad him sneak in. I can't remember. You did I

929
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 2: have him in? Looking Yeah, I think I had. I

930
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 2: think I did because of the member the Jacksonville thing.

931
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 2: I think That's why I had to put him in,

932
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 2: But I was curious if they'd be able to run

933
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 2: that back. They were fine. Their defense is crazy good.

934
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 2: And then the other the other thing was in Jacksonville

935
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: with Travis Hunter, so they have him play receiver. Impact

936
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 2: was pretty minimal. He just they have a lot of.

937
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 4: Big touchdown just missed the touch on. They really didn't

938
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 4: get their Their receiver passing game did not get going.

939
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 4: Anybody in fantasy who drafted Brian Thompson the first round like, wait,

940
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 4: what the guy had seven targets one catch for eleven yards. Yeah,

941
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 4: they really didn't get the receivers going. But Hunter eight targets,

942
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 4: He had six catches three to three.

943
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 5: One of the.

944
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 4: Interception that Lawrence throw was a bomb to Hunter and

945
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 4: j C. Horn made an incredible one handed leaping interception.

946
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 4: Otherwise he was gone, yeah.

947
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, So look, you're going to overreact to what you

948
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: see in Week one. Some of it's real, some of it.

949
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: There will be adjustments for sure. But it's been a

950
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 2: very fun Week one with a nice game today.

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Speaker 3: The best.

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Speaker 2: to hear from some of our guys. After a disappointing

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982
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 2: start with Joe Flacco and his message to Andre Schmidt.

983
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 19: If you've played this game long enough and you love

984
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 19: this game, we've all been in that situation where you

985
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 19: don't perform exactly the way you want to for your team.

986
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 19: I know how that feels. And I can look at

987
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 19: every guy in that locker room and they know how

988
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 19: that feels. We're in it together, you know. I think

989
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 19: it is a hard thing when you don't do things

990
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 19: as well as you want to. You do think your

991
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 19: teammates are like looking at you, saying, man, if Joe

992
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 19: just would have done this, we would You know what

993
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 19: the hell was he doing, it's hard to not think

994
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 19: that way. So at some point this week, yes, I'll

995
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 19: be in the office throwing darts with him and look

996
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 19: him in the eye and make sure that I can

997
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 19: give him the confidence to go out there and do

998
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 19: his job, because we've all done it and if he's

999
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 19: the player he thinks he is and he wants to be,

1000
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 19: this isn't going to be the last time that he's

1001
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 19: gonna have to deal with something like this. You know,

1002
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 19: He's got to keep his head up and just continue

1003
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 19: to go out there and do what he's doing.

1004
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: That's why he's Joe Flacco. I mean, that's a big

1005
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 2: reason why he's here. It's a big, big reason why

1006
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 2: the veterans on this team were thrilled that Joe was

1007
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 2: in the mix because he's four year old super Bowl

1008
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 2: winning franchise quarterback Joe Flacco, and he's seen it all

1009
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 2: and done it all, and he's a calm, calming presence

1010
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 2: and oh, by the way, still really good. He was

1011
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 2: great Sunday.

1012
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 5: Everybody knows Andre Schmidt wanted to make the kicks.

1013
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 2: Of course.

1014
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not like he didn't want to make the kicks.

1015
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 4: Of course, he wanted to make the kicks. And that's

1016
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 4: you know, just like I say, look, there have been

1017
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 4: throws I wanted to make that I didn't. There are

1018
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 4: balls that Seda Tillman and Jerry Judy wish they caught

1019
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 4: they didn't. That's it's just unfortunate because it is such

1020
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 4: a binary business that it is.

1021
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 5: You win or you lose. And unfortunately these are things

1022
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 5: and in the case of a kicker, where it really

1023
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 5: is like that's the one thing that you do.

1024
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 2: You said this years ago and it's the best, the

1025
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 2: very best analogy I've heard on kicking. It is so

1026
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 2: much like golf. Yeah, it's a there's a mechanic to it.

1027
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 2: You have to be able to turn your head off

1028
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 2: and the people that are the best in the world

1029
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 2: it happens to yeah, right, and so like you have

1030
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 2: to be able to just really be processed driven. That's

1031
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 2: why I'm and I'm gone off like golf. But one

1032
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 2: of the things any instructor ever tells anybody is you

1033
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: do this, have the same routine, especially as you're learning,

1034
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 2: have the same routine every time, so that it just

1035
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 2: becomes just like a free throw. For those of you

1036
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 2: who don't play golf, if you shoot free throws as

1037
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 2: a kid or whatever, like you did the same thing

1038
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: every time, so that that was relied upon. You just

1039
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 2: get into your routine and a way you go.

1040
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 3: Yep.

1041
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 2: But it's so hard to take the human element out

1042
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 2: of it.

1043
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 4: Well, the part of it that is the most like

1044
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 4: golf as well, is you know you can push it

1045
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 4: or pull it, and so usually you see a push

1046
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 4: and then it's an over compensation and then it's a pull.

1047
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 4: And in this case, he pushed both of them to

1048
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 4: the right.

1049
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 2: It's just.

1050
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 4: It's tough, and you know, it's funny because I felt

1051
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 4: I was hopeful that he was equipped to handle the pressure.

1052
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 4: It's been a long journey for him. You know, it's

1053
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 4: a long way from being the Lugros Award winner in

1054
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 4: twenty eighteen and they change a long snapper in the

1055
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 4: holder and he's not as good at Syracuse. He has

1056
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 4: this long odyssey gets in of the NFL. He was

1057
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 4: phenomenal all offseason, made just about everything throughout the off

1058
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 4: season program, preseason. You know, the pressure at the end

1059
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 4: of that game against the Rams, I thought was immense

1060
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 4: because if he misses it, he probably doesn't go into Week.

1061
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 2: One as a kicker, he makes that, and then it's

1062
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 2: just right there.

1063
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 4: And it's obviously if you wish, you say, make the

1064
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 4: ones against the Bengals, missed the ones in the preseason.

1065
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 5: But it happens.

1066
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 4: And it's what's so hard about it is you don't

1067
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 4: have an opportunity to do anything about it until next Sunday, No,

1068
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 4: and you have to sit there and that loss lingers

1069
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 4: with you all year. And if the Browns are you know,

1070
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 4: we've kind of said it and just being realistic about it,

1071
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 4: if the Browns are going to be making a run,

1072
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 4: they're going to be making I think a run at

1073
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 4: the wild card.

1074
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 5: And this could be a game that.

1075
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 4: Looms very large because my guess is you'll be competing

1076
00:50:58,719 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 4: with Cincinnati for a while.

1077
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 5: Yes. Absolutely, And as a game.

1078
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 4: You had, you absolutely had it. You had that game,

1079
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 4: you had it won and unfortunately you lost.

1080
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 2: Here is Joe speaking of the pressure and how to

1081
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 2: deal with it. Here is Joe Flacco on that.

1082
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 19: We got a lot of good football players, like a

1083
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 19: lot of guys that did a lot of good stuff,

1084
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 19: and we didn't do some stuff that well, that happens.

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Speaker 19: We've got to be able to overcome that and be

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00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 19: strong mentally. If we want to be the team that

1087
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 19: we think we can be, then little things like this

1088
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 19: like they're good tests. We're going to have to be

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00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 19: able to overcome things like this at some point, So

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00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 19: it might as well happen now, and let's face it.

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Speaker 2: Head on and see who we are on the other

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Speaker 2: side of it. And I'm curious. I want to ask

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Speaker 2: Off about this when he joins us here in twenty

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Speaker 2: minutes or so. But how do you make sure that

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00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 2: something that happens in the opener does it become who

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Speaker 2: you are? Miles Garrett was asked about that and if

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Speaker 2: it will test this team's culture. Here is Miles on that.

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Speaker 20: These next few days will impact the culture. I'm being

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00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 20: able to get back in after a loss. No one

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00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 20: wants to lose. But you know, how you choose to

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00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 20: wake up and attack the week on upcoming is really

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Speaker 20: showing who you are as a man, as a person,

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Speaker 20: as a player. So continue to work you know you

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Speaker 20: behind Off and elevate that people around you. We're all

1105
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 20: looking to you know each other. There's no one great

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00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 20: leader on the team who's going to pull us forward,

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00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 20: and we have to do it together. That's how that's

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Speaker 20: how we do things.

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Speaker 2: Is this his best opener? I mean, standard is so

1110
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 2: high at two sad four tackles for loss, he was

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00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 2: around Joe the whole time. The Burrow crossover in the rain,

1112
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:31,720
Speaker 2: that was a great one.

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00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 5: And he had the fourth down sack in the game.

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Speaker 2: That's right, That's right. Yeah, But I mean his standard

1115
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 2: is so high. Yeah, But he was the best player

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00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 2: on the field.

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Speaker 4: He was certainly the best second half defensive performance I've

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Speaker 4: seen in an opener, and maybe I've ever seen from

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Speaker 4: the Browns.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think when you when you hit us, I

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00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 2: don't know if you were intending to go there, if

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00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 2: you just got there organically, But when you hit us

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Speaker 2: with the twenty three negative yards in the first hour

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Speaker 2: of total offense in the fourth quarter for the Cincinnati Bengals,

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Speaker 2: your head around that, man, Yeah, I mean, I that's.

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Speaker 4: It's why it feels almost unfathomable to lose that game,

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00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 4: And that's why it hurts as much as it does,

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Speaker 4: because it's not a game you should lose.

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Speaker 5: Just isn't.

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Speaker 2: Well, since then he goes down the field and the

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00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 2: scores on the first drive, and then from that point

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Speaker 2: on it's nothing.

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Speaker 5: No, they got one, then one more, they had one

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Speaker 5: more touchdown drive.

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Speaker 2: Was that short field or was that long field? No,

1136
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 2: it was after the pass interference got them down to

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Speaker 2: the pass interference on Newsome on the and then they ran.

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Speaker 4: They ran a good play at the goal line, and

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Speaker 4: Diabate got fooled in the play action and they end

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Speaker 4: up hitting Noah offense for this rightown.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 4: But other than that, I mean, you go on the

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Speaker 4: play by play the drives. So they go twelve play

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Speaker 4: sixty eight yards touchdown, six plays nineteen yards punt, eight

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Speaker 4: plays fifty four yards touchdown.

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Speaker 5: Then it's the end of the half. Third quarter.

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00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 2: Three play sessions in the first half.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the other one was just Joe was yeah, yeah,

1149
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,760
Speaker 4: third quarter three plays eight yards punt, seven play seventeen

1150
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 4: yards field goal after the interception off the hands of

1151
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Speaker 4: Jerry Judy. Three plays one yard, three plays negative eighteen yards,

1152
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 4: three plays four yards, three plays negative ten yards.

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00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 2: Can't do better.

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00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 4: So by my calculations, they amassed twenty yards on two possessions. Yeah,

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00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 4: only two of their possessions hit twenty yards.

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Speaker 3: Two.

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00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 2: It was it was a it was a scene, man. Defensively,

1158
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 2: it was absolutely and offensively was really good too. That's

1159
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 2: the thing. It's not like the offense didn't do its part.

1160
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 2: Jo Joe threw for two hundred ninety yards.

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Speaker 5: But we've got to find out.

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Speaker 2: We've got to finish a score. We do Yeah, real quick,

1163
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Speaker 2: this is a positive two. Here's Joel Buttonio on the

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Speaker 2: rookies on offense, dill In Samson and Harold Fannin junior.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Samson, I saw him make some people miss out there.

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00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 8: You know, I premature. He celebrated on one of the

1167
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 8: screens we had too, and I thought he was gonna

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00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 8: go and it was like a nine yard game, so

1169
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 8: I got a little excited. But he made some people

1170
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 8: miss and I thought, I mean, we've seen it all camp.

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Speaker 8: Out of those two, though, Harold like just makes plays

1172
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 8: and you're like, all right, this guy's a gamer, you

1173
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 8: know what I mean, He's gonna go.

1174
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 6: Out there and make plays.

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Speaker 8: And so to get those guys of the ball, I

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00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 8: think it's gonna open up for Dave and open it

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00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 8: up for Jerry and said and those guys. But it

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Speaker 8: was awesome to see those guys would come out in compete,

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Speaker 8: and I was oppressed once don't have the.

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Speaker 2: Bombs head Yeah. And then the reality of this one

1181
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Speaker 2: is is all of those positives are lost because what

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00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 2: matters is wins and losses and you just didn't get

1183
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Speaker 2: to be great call of the game. Here's the Browns

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00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 2: back to back to back compliments of the g Man.

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Speaker 21: After the touchback on their own twenty Burrow shotgun Jamar

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00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 21: Chase in motion play fake to him.

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00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 2: Burrow to throw up in the pocket. He he's going

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00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 2: down show. Burrow sacked by Miles Garrett for the tenth

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Speaker 2: time in his career. From the fourteen Burrow to throw

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00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 2: Burrow little he shoulder fake under pressure again. He goes

1209
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:11,240
Speaker 2: down again, Miles Garrett again. It's eleventh sack of Burrow

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Speaker 2: is second of the day.

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00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 21: Miles Geart working out strict seventh straight seasons with ten

1212
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 21: or more sacks.

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00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 2: Third and twenty two Burrow to throw Burrow in his

1214
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 2: end zone under pressure. Burrow goes down again. Take a

1215
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 2: bow Miles Garrett. Then Isaiah maguire. Joe Burrow had to

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00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 2: leap in the air to get.

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Speaker 5: Out of the end zone.

1218
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 2: It was Isaiah McGuire from the ground, tripping him up.

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00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 21: McGuire three sacks last year as a starter in sixteen games.

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00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 2: What's else right?

1221
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 21: Went down picking up where he left off, guy who

1222
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 21: had a great offseason. He and Alex Right McGuire three plays,

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00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 21: three sacks for this Brown's defense. Unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: I mean it was pandemonium. It was pretty awesome. Yeah,

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00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 2: in a safety you would have won. Yeah, you're right, Yeah,

1226
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 2: damn near did. Joe had a pretty savvy of him

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00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 2: to like hurdle over and get forward.

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00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 4: Because otherwise, Yeah, Mason Graham had kind of collapsed up

1229
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 4: the mill, tried to get away from that jump over

1230
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 4: and couldn't get over. Maguire was on the ground, dog

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00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 4: problem right there, positive yardage, the best that he possibly could.

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Speaker 5: It was it.

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Speaker 2: You know, it was at that point where you go, okay, okay,

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00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 2: there's there's some something special going up. You're not going

1235
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 2: to see Burrow. He was really frustrated to hear that

1236
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 2: game in the in the cold and the rain and

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00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 2: all of that. It's just so rare to see a

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00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 2: quarterback of his caliber is flustered and frustrated on a

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Speaker 2: pristine day.

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Speaker 22: Yeah a weather never doubt it, never doubt it. Yeah,

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Speaker 22: eight am, choice words for YouTube. But we were talking

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Speaker 22: about I believe, I, I believe I exercised my you did.

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Speaker 2: Speech, But you're give a weather delivered delivered in a

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Speaker 2: big way.

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Speaker 23: Can you deliver tonight on the Monday night foosball pitch? Minnesota,

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Speaker 23: We're doing all right.

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Speaker 5: School.

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Speaker 23: JJ McCarthy finally gonna throw a pass in an NFL game.

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00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 23: He's in Chicago, the Battle the Bears.

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Speaker 2: Bo Bishop look. I as a kid, I was a

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00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 2: Bears fan. The Chicago Bears don't win games like this,

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Speaker 2: and I just kept coming back to the Minnesota Vikings

1253
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 2: did not say a word or have one action to

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Speaker 2: replace JJ McCarthy, So they love him. And that tells

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00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,439
Speaker 2: me that's really smart run organization that they got a guy.

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Speaker 2: So I got Minnesota winning tonight.

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Speaker 5: I'm with you.

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Speaker 4: I like the Minnesota Vikings in this one as well.

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Speaker 4: It's Kevin O'Connell's the reigning coach of the year. They're

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Speaker 4: well coached, they will be well prepared. I think Chicago

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Speaker 4: is going to be good. I just think it's going

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Speaker 4: to take them some time. And one thing you know

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Speaker 4: you always like to look at is you know Brian

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00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 4: Flores defense. It's a coordinator going at them. He puts

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Speaker 4: a lot of interesting things there. Now, Ben Jonson got

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Speaker 4: the best of them last year, yep, But this is

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Speaker 4: a different supporting cast. It's a new supporting cast. I

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Speaker 4: think Brian Flores has a very good game plan for cables.

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Speaker 4: I still think Chicago's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 5: Me too.

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Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be a better game than people think.

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Speaker 4: I think it's to be a blowout. No, I like

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Speaker 4: the Vikings. I like the Vikings winning.

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Speaker 2: I do too, all right? Coming up next to Joe

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Speaker 2: Thomas Half hour of the program, you listened to Cleveland

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to the Joe Thomas half hour of

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Speaker 2: the program. We bring on the Hoff look. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Nathan and I talked about it for the first hour

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Speaker 2: of the show. It's it's just so discouraging and tough

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Speaker 2: because you kind of did everything, Joe, that you wanted

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01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 2: to do in the checklist of things to do to

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Speaker 2: beat the Bengals. You did damn near all of them

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Speaker 2: except a couple, and they end up being the ones

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Speaker 2: that kill you. What was your reaction to what you

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Speaker 2: saw yesterday?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, my feelings are exactly like you guys, if you

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Speaker 6: told me that Joe Flacca was gonna throw for two

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Speaker 6: hundred and ninety yards, they were gonna limit Joe Burrow

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Speaker 6: to one hundred and thirteen yards passing. And what it

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Speaker 6: was it seven yards in the second half of the offense,

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Speaker 6: which I'll let you guys, as the great statisticians of

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Speaker 6: the show, tell me exactly when the last time a

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Speaker 6: team has won with that many yards in the second half.

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Speaker 6: But here's at doesn't happen very often because it's almost

1299
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 6: impossible to win a football game when you do Didley

1300
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 6: squat in the second half. And for the Browns, like,

1301
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 6: we played the type of game that we wanted to

1302
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 6: play right. We were patient, we were deliberate. For the

1303
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 6: most part. We had some long plotting drives, especially that

1304
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 6: first one that we got the balls. Gee'z almost twenty

1305
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 6: twenty plays going all the way down the field, played

1306
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 6: their butts off. Miles Garrett had two sacks, which is

1307
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 6: the number that I said he needs to get to

1308
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 6: be able to limit this offense. And yet you lose,

1309
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 6: and so it's frustrating, it's disappointing, it's disheartening. It's all

1310
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 6: those things, because you felt like this was the style

1311
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 6: that could give us hope and excitement and give us

1312
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 6: a chance to win all these tough games that we

1313
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 6: got coming up. But yet it came down to a

1314
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 6: kicker missing an extra point and a field goal down

1315
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 6: the stretch. And that's the hard part about playing these

1316
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 6: these games and this type of a way where you're

1317
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 6: not going to score a lot of points, you're squeezing

1318
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 6: the football so you don't have a whole lot of possessions,

1319
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 6: and you're trying to win those close games right at

1320
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 6: the end. But if you can't get it done with

1321
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 6: the kicker, you're going to have a really hard time

1322
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 6: playing this way the entire season because these are the

1323
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 6: games and this is the style that leads to a one, three,

1324
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 6: five seven point game that you feel like is the

1325
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 6: type of game that you have to be able to win.

1326
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a game that they should have won.

1327
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 4: I think, you know, in watching it back and even

1328
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 4: at the time, it was pretty clear while the Bengals

1329
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 4: did play some man, they played a ton of too

1330
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 4: high shell They were not trying to let the Browns

1331
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 4: be explosive, and so the Browns, I think in many

1332
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 4: cases took what the defense gave them. But you know

1333
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 4: you mentioned it comes down to the kicker. Kevin Stefanski

1334
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 4: fifteen and six in one score games with no miskicks

1335
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 4: fifteen and six. Kevin Stefanski is eight and fifteen in

1336
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 4: one score games with one or more points lost to

1337
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 4: mix missed kicks. In his one score losses, miskicks have

1338
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 4: cost the Browns two point two points per game, most

1339
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 4: in the NFL per True Media. So so much goes

1340
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 4: into this, and listen, while the kicking is part of it,

1341
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 4: they're also the drop passes were certainly a part of it.

1342
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 4: We had the third down and fourth down back to backdrops.

1343
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 4: You have two that are off of guys hands and

1344
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 4: become interceptions. Now, could the throw has been a little

1345
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 4: bit better, sure, but that's what you're supposed to do,

1346
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 4: is catch it. But with this kicking thing, like in

1347
01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, if we miss these kicks, we are

1348
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 4: a six win team. But doesn Hopkins was great, We win.

1349
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 4: We go to the playoffs in a locker room where

1350
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 4: guys put so much into a game. And I know

1351
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 4: it's unfair to isolate a kicker like this, but when

1352
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 4: you miss those kicks. That is what happens. You look

1353
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 4: at how does how does Pittsburgh win? Their kicker makes

1354
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 4: a six yarder? How do the Bills win? Matt Prader,

1355
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 4: right off of his couch, comes in and puts it

1356
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 4: through the uprights. It's I would imagine there has to

1357
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 4: be some resentment, like what's it like in the locker room,

1358
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 4: because he literally has one job, just kicked them all

1359
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 4: through the uprights, and it let you down. It's the

1360
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 4: difference between being one and oh and oh and one.

1361
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 6: And like you mentioned, you don't want to forgive the

1362
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 6: drop passes or the interceptions like those are obviously enormous

1363
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 6: moments and pivotal moments in the game, and if those

1364
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 6: don't happen, you probably win the game. But when you

1365
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 6: look at this team and how it's made up and

1366
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 6: how they want to play and the rest of the season, like,

1367
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 6: we're gonna have to win those one score games like

1368
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 6: that is our formula for success. And if you want

1369
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 6: to win one score game, even if your name is

1370
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 6: not Kevin Stefanski, you gotta make those kicks because one

1371
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 6: score game, by definition, are within a field goal. Typically

1372
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 6: it's right there for you, and so you've got to

1373
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 6: be able to convert those and you've got to be

1374
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 6: able to have a reliable kicker if you want to

1375
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 6: win in this manner. And that's why I think it's frustrating.

1376
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 6: It's disappointing. You know, I was never in the locker

1377
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 6: room in too many situations where you felt like the

1378
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 6: kicker and not the same kicker in this case, from

1379
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 6: Dustin Hopkins last year and then a different kicker this year, Schmidt,

1380
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 6: I believe is is that the proper pronunciation there zegera.

1381
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 5: Yes, Schmid, Schmitt Schmid.

1382
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 6: So it's not like it's all Schmid's problem from the

1383
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 6: last couple of years, clearly, but Dustin was a problem

1384
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 6: last year with the miskicks, and then we replaced them

1385
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 6: with Schmidt this year, and then the first game of

1386
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 6: the season, the same issue rears its ugly had and

1387
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 6: so as a player, you're in the locker room thinking like,

1388
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 6: we did what we wanted to do in this game,

1389
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 6: and we lost, and it feels like, even though you

1390
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 6: don't want to put the blame on one person, it's

1391
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 6: hard not to feel that way. But certainly it's important

1392
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 6: to keep in mind that we're going to need him

1393
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 6: next week, and so we want him to build that

1394
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 6: confidence and we want to bring him in and not

1395
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 6: feel like he's being singled out. We want him to

1396
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 6: feel like he is our teammate and we got his back.

1397
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 6: And so I think that's one of the important things

1398
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 6: that the leaders on the team are going to have

1399
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 6: to reinforce throughout the week, and certainly Stevanski and company

1400
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 6: is going to talk about that a little bit in

1401
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 6: the meeting, like, Hey, it didn't come down to one

1402
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 6: kick or one player, even though that had a huge

1403
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 6: impact on the outcome, we could have done other things

1404
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 6: collectively as an offense and a defense that wouldn't have

1405
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 6: left it into the foot of a kicker. And I

1406
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 6: think that's where your focus has to be as a player.

1407
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 6: It's Okay, what can I do to make this team better?

1408
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 6: What could I have done in that game that would

1409
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 6: have kept it from coming down to a kick? And

1410
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 6: that has to be your focus because that's what I

1411
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 6: can control. Bad teams are teams that worry about what

1412
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 6: other people are doing. The good teams have players that

1413
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 6: are worrying about what I need to do to get

1414
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:56,959
Speaker 6: better to help my team.

1415
01:06:58,280 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, guys, A thing that's so hard

1416
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 2: about this is the margin for air here is pretty small. Right,

1417
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 2: there's a certain way we're gonna have to go about

1418
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 2: our business to be successful. Great defense, well, you play

1419
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 2: great defense, right yep. Number two offensively, and when you're

1420
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 2: playing a team like Joe Burrow, who is you were

1421
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 2: doing the game Joe. You were there, but until visibly

1422
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 2: frustrated even in the first half that he couldn't get

1423
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 2: back out on the field, like can I get back

1424
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 2: on the field? We have seven yard seven minute drives

1425
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 2: And it was like he just standing there and you

1426
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 2: could seem visibly like frustrated that he could not get

1427
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 2: back on the field and play offense. So you did that, right,

1428
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 2: So you do those things. Your rookies looked great, Fan

1429
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 2: and looked great. Sam's looked like. All those guys look great,

1430
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 2: Isaiah Bond, Sweeshinger. You're gonna get Judkins back. Like all

1431
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 2: of these little boxes you got to check. But then

1432
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 2: four separate things, and really all four of these things

1433
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,479
Speaker 2: have to happen or you win. Miss an extra point,

1434
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 2: miss a field goal. Two balls that hit receivers in hands.

1435
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 2: Were they perfect? No, those passes were not perfect. But

1436
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:04,919
Speaker 2: if they hit you in the hand, catch them. Worst

1437
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 2: case scenario if you were to ask either one of

1438
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 2: those guys, I'm gonna throw a ball low to you,

1439
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 2: and I want you to try to put both hands

1440
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 2: on it and then flip it upwards so a corner

1441
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 2: can run under it. I mean it's impossible. Yeah, just

1442
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 2: knock it down. Four things had to happen to lose

1443
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 2: against a team that fancies itself with Super Bowl contender.

1444
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 2: It's hard to pull in perspective.

1445
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 4: Two more, which is the back to back drops on

1446
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 4: third and fourth round Fannin and then Jerry Judy in

1447
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:30,919
Speaker 4: Cincinnati territory.

1448
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:34,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, on the one, the fan in one, maybe a.

1449
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 2: Little bit of a tougher catch, but pretty good ball.

1450
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,640
Speaker 2: And on the Judia it's just a slants right right

1451
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 2: into the brunt red in the bread basket. Yeah. So

1452
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:43,759
Speaker 2: that's it's it's.

1453
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 5: That's what's so frustrating. But here's the thing.

1454
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 4: We cleaned up a lot of the stuff that we

1455
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 4: talked about that hurt the Browns last year. Pre snap

1456
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 4: penalties on offense. We didn't to my recollection, maybe we

1457
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 4: had one of those, if any I don't remember many, No,

1458
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 4: And we know the turnovers and yes, the overs there,

1459
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 4: but these were kind of flukey turnovers.

1460
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 5: But the presnet polls were gone.

1461
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 4: But the things that hurt us last year as well

1462
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 4: were we led the league and drop passes with thirty

1463
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 4: one big problem again right now, and I don't understand

1464
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 4: how that can't be rectified.

1465
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 2: Yea.

1466
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 5: And then the kicking.

1467
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 4: The kicking was really the difference between twenty three and

1468
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 4: twenty four. I mean, not that we would have gone

1469
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 4: from three wins to you know, playoffs, No, but you're right,

1470
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 4: if we kicked like we did this year or last

1471
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 4: year in twenty twenty three, we maybe win six games.

1472
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:31,679
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe.

1473
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 4: So, I just it's it's frustrating because there, had you

1474
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 4: won that game, there'd be so much to be encouraged by.

1475
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 4: Right now, your defense turned in a dominant performance against

1476
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 4: a top five at a minimum offense in the NFL.

1477
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 4: Dominant performance. Yeah, your young core of guys that you drafted.

1478
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 4: Samson had the most receptions in a first game ever

1479
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 4: for a rookie running back, tied with Tarik Cohen. Haerld

1480
01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 4: Fanna have the most receptions in a first game ever

1481
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,719
Speaker 4: for a tight end for a rookie tight end, tying

1482
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 4: Tyler Warren who did it on the same day. Swassinger

1483
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 4: was all over the field. Mason Graham didn't show up

1484
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 4: in the stat sheet per se, but was a Isama

1485
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 4: MacGuire doesn't get his sack without Mason Graham forcing collapsing

1486
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:16,560
Speaker 4: the pocket, bro trying to step out of it and

1487
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 4: runs into Isama macguarre in the game. So you had

1488
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 4: young players. Our guy A Huntington with the big special

1489
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,440
Speaker 4: teams play. You had a young players making significant contributions.

1490
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 4: The bal didn't go to Isaiah Bond. It definitely could

1491
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:29,560
Speaker 4: have a couple of times, but I liked what I

1492
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 4: saw from him. I think we'll get more from him

1493
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,600
Speaker 4: as this season goes on. But yeah, you saw this

1494
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 4: young core. You saw the dominant defense quin Shawn hopefully

1495
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 4: will help help the running game. I was a little

1496
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 4: bit surprised that our O line struggled as much as

1497
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:42,719
Speaker 4: they did. But there's still a lot that you would

1498
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 4: have been very, very excited about. Flacco still looks great

1499
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 4: throwing the football, but we didn't get the job done,

1500
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 4: And so it becomes.

1501
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 2: It's it's hard to win a world where it's such.

1502
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 4: A binary business as to be like we're gonna throw

1503
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 4: the idea like we don't care about wins and losses.

1504
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 4: We're just trying to get this. No, we're trying to

1505
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,600
Speaker 4: win the game, and we game that quite frankly, we

1506
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 4: should have one. I do want to ask you going

1507
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 4: back to the line, what'd you see from our line?

1508
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 4: Because we really were not able to create any room

1509
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 4: in the run game at all. And Dewand what did

1510
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 4: you think of him? Who gave up a lot of

1511
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 4: pressures per pff had a couple of bad penalties, but

1512
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 4: against Trey Hendrickson give up one pressure, who was the

1513
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 4: best pass rusher on the field for them.

1514
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was the leading sacker in the NFL last season.

1515
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 6: It was definitely something that I was concerned about, and

1516
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 6: I was thinking about right because it's a great test

1517
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,759
Speaker 6: for Dewan his first game going over there to left tackle,

1518
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 6: having to go against one of the best pass rushers

1519
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,759
Speaker 6: in the NFL right now, And so I thought overall,

1520
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 6: the offensive line did a fairly good job in pass protection,

1521
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:44,679
Speaker 6: but in the run game, there was too many times

1522
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:46,680
Speaker 6: that they were working to the wrong guy. There was

1523
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 6: too many times that I think the angles were not correct,

1524
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 6: the technique was not exactly where it needed to be,

1525
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 6: and the tiny little mistakes that you make in the

1526
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 6: run game with technique, with your eyes, with who you're

1527
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 6: pointing as far as your players, and who you're organizing

1528
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 6: the blocking schemes that go to those are the tiny

1529
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 6: mistakes that take a run that could be four or

1530
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 6: five yards and make it a one yard or a

1531
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 6: zero yard run. And I think that was really the

1532
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 6: big issue, and it's one of those where I think

1533
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 6: that over time you work through those things. But for

1534
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 6: a veteran offensive line, you would have expected that their

1535
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 6: running game would have been a lot better going into

1536
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 6: the first game of the season against a Bengals run

1537
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 6: defense that we don't think is all that great, Like

1538
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 6: we're not expecting them to be the eighty five Bears

1539
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 6: or the Steelers when I was there my first few

1540
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 6: years in the NFL, where you just couldn't run against them. Like,

1541
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:35,679
Speaker 6: I think this is a team that you can run against.

1542
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 6: And it's disappointing for me to only have forty nine

1543
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 6: yards rushing in this game against a team that you

1544
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 6: knew that you wanted to run the ball and you

1545
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 6: were going to be physical with them. And so I

1546
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 6: think it'll potentially be a little bit different when Quinn

1547
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 6: Schahn is in there. I think he gives you a

1548
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 6: different a different speed and a different intensity and power

1549
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 6: at running back, and I think Kevin Sevanski is going

1550
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 6: to definitely lean into that. But they definitely need to

1551
01:12:58,080 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 6: get more production. And I think the attention to d

1552
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 6: tills in the run game need to get up for

1553
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 6: that offensive line.

1554
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, our long run of the day was five yards. Yeah,

1555
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 4: Dylan Sampson ran twelve times for twenty nine yards. He

1556
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 4: had twenty seven yards after contact.

1557
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 5: I mean he's getting hit.

1558
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:19,560
Speaker 4: It's getting hit, right, I don't care who's running. I

1559
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 4: mean the best guys in the league get three yards

1560
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 4: after contact.

1561
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 5: The best.

1562
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're gonna run for three yards of carry?

1563
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 6: I mean no.

1564
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 2: And it was And that's you know. What was interesting though,

1565
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 2: was like how a fact? I mean it was so

1566
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 2: this part's encouraging and it's hard to you know, if

1567
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 2: there's no moral victories, it's the National Football League off.

1568
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 2: But but Joe Flacco's ability at this age to still

1569
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 2: throw it as accurately as he does consistently is a

1570
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 2: wild thing. And it became almost an extension of the

1571
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 2: run game. Because, as Nathan said, so much of what

1572
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 2: they were doing was preventing anything deep down the field,

1573
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 2: so everything was underneath and we just took it. And

1574
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 2: in a way it was pretty dang effective because you

1575
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 2: kept them off the clock too, So it was kind

1576
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 2: of like the short pass game was the run game.

1577
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 2: What did you make a Flaco? And just the way

1578
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:05,839
Speaker 2: that he I mean, if you look at the statute,

1579
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 2: you didn't watch the game. You see the two picks,

1580
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 2: you go same, Well, neither one or on him. As

1581
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 2: far as I'm concerned, I thought he was great. Joe,

1582
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 2: what did you make of it?

1583
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 6: I thought he was really good. And like you mentioned,

1584
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 6: I think sometimes young quarterbacks make the mistake of feeling like,

1585
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 6: all right, I'm throwing too many short passes. We need

1586
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 6: to start taking some chances and pushing the ball down

1587
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 6: the field when it's not there. Like you mentioned, Ze,

1588
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 6: they're playing a lot of cover too, because they wanted

1589
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:29,679
Speaker 6: to keep everything in front of him. But that's also

1590
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 6: what we want to do. We wanted to run the ball,

1591
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 6: have short passes with a high completion percentage to keep

1592
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 6: Joe Burr off the field. And so having that patience

1593
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 6: I think is something that you mostly only get from

1594
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 6: a veteran quarterback knowing that, hey, at some point I'm

1595
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 6: going to have a chance to take a few shots,

1596
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 6: but I don't need to force that, and I just

1597
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 6: need to be efficient with these short passes. Keep giving

1598
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 6: the ball to my playmakers and eventually one of those

1599
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 6: guys will square free. Keep giving the ball to Harold

1600
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 6: Fan and Junior, Keep throwing to Cedric Tillman, keep throwing

1601
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 6: to David Najoku, and then those shots on the field

1602
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 6: to Jerry Judy and the the Isaiah Bond are going

1603
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 6: to be there. So I thought he was really good.

1604
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 6: I mean he operated the offense really really well. He

1605
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:10,680
Speaker 6: was efficient, he was accurate, he was patient with those opportunities,

1606
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 6: and I really I thought he was probably better than

1607
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 6: we would have expected. I mean, we didn't expect him

1608
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 6: to be Lamar Jackson back there escaping the pressure, which

1609
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 6: that's going to be an issue all season long. You know,

1610
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 6: if the pocket breaks down a little bit. He's not

1611
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 6: a fleet of foot to be able to really move

1612
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 6: in the pocket all that much and escape. But he

1613
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 6: still does a pretty good job for a guy that's

1614
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 6: forty years old. And I think that decision making is

1615
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 6: the difference that you get when you got a Joe

1616
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 6: Flacco back there and I thought he played really well.

1617
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 6: He played winning football. To me, it's binary, like you said,

1618
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 6: do you wonder you didn't? And for me, positionally, did

1619
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 6: that guy give you a chance to win or not?

1620
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 6: And Joe Flacco gave you a chance to win.

1621
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 2: Joe, how do you when you have a loss like

1622
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 2: it's one of seventeen, but we all know what's coming

1623
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 2: in terms of the next five games and the challenges

1624
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 2: that they will present. How do you when you have

1625
01:15:55,960 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 2: one that is this disappointing? How do you flush it

1626
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 2: onto the next and not let it turn into something

1627
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 2: that becomes who you are?

1628
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 6: You open your mouth, you take Grandpa's terrible taste in

1629
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 6: cough medicine, and you take your medicine. On a Monday,

1630
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 6: you walk in there, you watch the film. You're very

1631
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 6: critical of yourself. The coaches are critical of their game

1632
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 6: plan and the execution and what they did to set

1633
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 6: you up and to practice the things that you're going

1634
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 6: to see on Sunday. And I think when you have

1635
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 6: those honest meetings, those honest evaluations, and you've got a

1636
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 6: veteran driven team like the Browns do. I think that's

1637
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 6: how you get it out of your system. You face

1638
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 6: the mirror, you face the facts, you're honest with yourself,

1639
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 6: you put on your big boy pants, you take the criticism,

1640
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 6: and then when you come back on Wednesday, all the

1641
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 6: focus is on the next opponent. Now we're worried about Baltimore.

1642
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:49,799
Speaker 6: We're not worried about what happened there. But on Monday,

1643
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 6: it's going to hurt a little bit. And that's okay

1644
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 6: because that's how you get that sickness out of your system.

1645
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:58,600
Speaker 4: It's just it's just a frustrating one. I mean, this

1646
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 4: is a game that you should have won. You had

1647
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 4: a Bengals team that was made it known. They were

1648
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 4: treating this like the super Bowl. They said, you're gonna

1649
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 4: get super Bowl like this was as must have winn

1650
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 4: as it could have been for them. And your defense,

1651
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:16,839
Speaker 4: it almost looked like it was us against the Rams

1652
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 4: fourth stringers. In the second half, Oh yeah, he had

1653
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 4: no chance. You want to play where you you had

1654
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 4: three straight sacks. They went from the twenty yep to

1655
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 4: the one on three straight sacks and it was weird.

1656
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 4: You know, it was like you felt like all we

1657
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:33,680
Speaker 4: have to do is get the lead and they're not

1658
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 4: going to be able to do anything. They tried to

1659
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 4: run the ball out at the end. Like I talked

1660
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 4: about Dylan Samson's yards after the contact, Chase Brown had

1661
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:43,879
Speaker 4: more yards after contact than he had yards, so on average,

1662
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 4: we were hitting him in the backfielt the d when

1663
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 4: they were trying to just run the clockt They lost

1664
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 4: I think five, and Chase Brown lost thirteen yards and

1665
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 4: two carries.

1666
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, bad for fantasy, it is, But that's what I think.

1667
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 2: It's so hard about it because you didn't lose because

1668
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 2: you got bullied or you couldn't physically keep up. You

1669
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:04,719
Speaker 2: lost because of the little things that are just so dumb.

1670
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 2: They just the wrong way. It's just such a painful

1671
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 2: way to lose. You did everything right. There's been plenty

1672
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 2: of times where we put a team out on the

1673
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 2: field and you go, okay, like things have to go

1674
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 2: perfect for us to win. This wasn't that you were better.

1675
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 2: You're better than Cincinnati. There's something about this matchup that

1676
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 2: doesn't work for them. They've always kind of struggled and

1677
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 2: and you had them on the ropes and you dominate

1678
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 2: them fights. Yes, you dominated them in the second half

1679
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,759
Speaker 2: and did not win. Is It's painful, really painful.

1680
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 4: It is one of those things, very very frustrating for

1681
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 4: the Browns and News you said you have to flush it.

1682
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:45,679
Speaker 2: I do think you know, you could be excited about

1683
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 2: those young guys.

1684
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 4: And speaking of on the defensive side, Carson Swessinger was Everywherehoff,

1685
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 4: what did you see from our defense? Obviously we know

1686
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 4: the line was dominant. Kind of a slow start that

1687
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 4: first time. It was like, how are they run the

1688
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 4: ball right up the middle on us?

1689
01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 5: Over and over?

1690
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 4: But we certainly got it all sorted out, yep, and

1691
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 4: then completely styvey them.

1692
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 6: Yeah. I thought it was interesting just kind of seeing

1693
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 6: how Cincinnati wanted to approach that first drive. They were

1694
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 6: trying to put the receivers on one side and then

1695
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 6: the tight end to the nub side of the field,

1696
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 6: So basically just means there's only a tight end and

1697
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:18,799
Speaker 6: there's no other receivers, and then it forces your defense

1698
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 6: to make a decision. Do we go to man and

1699
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 6: we send both corners over to cover their one and

1700
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:25,640
Speaker 6: two receiver or do we continue to play zone and

1701
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 6: we keep our corner there. Who is Denzel Ward? And

1702
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 6: then now he has to be one of the tacklers,

1703
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:32,759
Speaker 6: and they kept running this play called duo, which basically

1704
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:36,639
Speaker 6: is just everybody double teams to a stacked player. There's

1705
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 6: no pullers or anything like that, and then the running

1706
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:40,719
Speaker 6: back can just kind of find a hole. He starts

1707
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 6: with the a gap which is just to the right

1708
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 6: of the center or the left of the center, depending

1709
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 6: on which way they're going, and then he's able to

1710
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 6: bounce it out and find a hole that's available. And

1711
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 6: so they just kind of kept running that play over

1712
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 6: and over again and finding a way to get to

1713
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 6: Denzel Ward and try to make him be a tackler

1714
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 6: in the box. But Jim Schwartz does, like any good

1715
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 6: offensive or defensive coordinator does. He comes to the sideline

1716
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 6: after that first drive and says, all right, guys, what

1717
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 6: are they doing to us? How do we need to

1718
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 6: fix it? And then they came up. They started changing

1719
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,560
Speaker 6: a little bit of their coverage, They started changing a

1720
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 6: little bit of the front and what they wanted to

1721
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 6: do to get Denzel Ward out of that situation where

1722
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:16,680
Speaker 6: he has to make the tackle on a big running back.

1723
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 6: Which I don't care who you are as a corner

1724
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 6: when you're a cover corner. You're not going to be

1725
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 6: able to make the tackle in the box for a

1726
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 6: no yard gain when you have to face against a

1727
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 6: two hundred and twenty two hundred and thirty pound running

1728
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 6: back in the NFL. So I thought that was a

1729
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 6: great adjustment by them, which in the first game of

1730
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 6: the season, you're going to see a lot of stuff

1731
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:34,719
Speaker 6: that maybe you weren't expecting because they have no film

1732
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 6: on this version of the Cincinnati Bengals, just like the

1733
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 6: Bengals had no film on this version of the Cleveland Browns.

1734
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:42,560
Speaker 6: So I thought they made some really nice adjustments. And

1735
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 6: I really like the way they were using Carson sweesssinger

1736
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,879
Speaker 6: because obviously we know as an off the ball linebacker,

1737
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 6: he's got the speed to be able to cover tight ends.

1738
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 6: He's got the speed to be able to get to

1739
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 6: his zone, drops really quickly, and then tackle sideline to sideline.

1740
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 6: But they really incorporate him a lot in the blitzing

1741
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 6: schemes because he has a really good pass rusher, and

1742
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 6: I think it makes him a really good weapon because

1743
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 6: you can put him anywhere on the field and from

1744
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 6: a position standpoint, he's almost interchangeable with a lot of

1745
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:11,680
Speaker 6: the different guys either almost on the defensive line and

1746
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 6: third down pass us situations or some of those in

1747
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 6: the box safety looks. So you can decide who you

1748
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:20,839
Speaker 6: want to have to have block him from an offensive

1749
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 6: standpoint based on where you line him up, and you

1750
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:27,559
Speaker 6: jury rig how they have to protect our defensive line.

1751
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:29,720
Speaker 6: Because we know we have Miles. If we put him

1752
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:31,759
Speaker 6: and Mason on the same side, they're going to slide

1753
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 6: that way. You put Carson walked up on the other side, well,

1754
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 6: the running back is probably gonna have to block him. Boom.

1755
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 6: That's the matchup we want. And so finding those little

1756
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 6: matchups within the game and using Miles like the weapon

1757
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 6: he is, knowing that he's always going to get double

1758
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 6: teamed or chipped or bumped or or the slide's going

1759
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 6: to go his way to be able to get those

1760
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:52,559
Speaker 6: one on one matchups with Carson against running backs, against

1761
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 6: tight ends, against those guys that you know he can

1762
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 6: win with. So I think it's going to be fun

1763
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 6: to see the evolution of Carson within this defense, within

1764
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 6: this Jim Schwartz defense, with how he likes to attack

1765
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 6: with the blitz.

1766
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 2: All right, ho off, time for the trench report brought

1767
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:06,680
Speaker 2: to you by Big fig the mattress made for More

1768
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 2: crafted in Cleveland, just like our Browns. We ze to

1769
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 2: ask you about this a little bit earlier, Duand what

1770
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 2: did you see from him at left tackle yesterday? And

1771
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 2: then on the other side of the ball, your buddy

1772
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett who just wrecked things.

1773
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, nobody blocked Miles. And the theme continues

1774
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 6: that I haven't seen a human that walks the face

1775
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 6: of the earth that can block that guy. Because the

1776
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 6: whole game they were trying to double team in with

1777
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 6: a tight end or somebody off the ball, which usually

1778
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 6: slows him down enough to give the quarterback time to

1779
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 6: throw it. But in any situation where they wanted to

1780
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 6: get that extra receiver out and have five guys to

1781
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:43,680
Speaker 6: throw to, he just beat the tackle immediately and ran

1782
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 6: around and flushed Burrow out of the pocket or sacked

1783
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 6: him or forced a quick incompletion, so he was completely dominant.

1784
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:51,759
Speaker 6: I thought, like I mentioned, I thought the wand overall

1785
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 6: did a pretty good job. I think there's obviously some growth.

1786
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:58,799
Speaker 6: He was a little bit soft on the edge because

1787
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 6: he was trying to take way the bull rush and

1788
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 6: the inside move and trying to funnel Trey Hendrickson up

1789
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:06,400
Speaker 6: the field, and I thought, for the most part, that

1790
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 6: was a really effective strategy because I don't know if

1791
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 6: Trey had any sacks in that game. I'm trying to

1792
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 6: think back.

1793
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 5: He got one on a play that where he ended

1794
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 5: up being on postick.

1795
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 6: Okay, that's right, I think he was. Yeah, he ran

1796
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 6: like a stunt something like that, and he got a sack.

1797
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:27,679
Speaker 6: But for the most part, I was happy with where

1798
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 6: Dewand is and then now knowing some of the things

1799
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 6: that he needs to continue to work on, considering that

1800
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:35,839
Speaker 6: he was going against one of the best pass rushers

1801
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 6: in the NFL, I thought the technique had improved from

1802
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 6: where we were kind of at the beginning of training camp.

1803
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 6: The footwork, the hand placement. He was using his hands

1804
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 6: a lot better, keeping Trey a little bit further away

1805
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 6: from his body. So I thought overall it was good progress.

1806
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:51,640
Speaker 6: I mentioned that in the run game, they obviously need

1807
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 6: to get better collectively because rushing for under fifty yards

1808
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 6: is not the way this team is built to win.

1809
01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 6: But it was a good first step him as he

1810
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 6: transitions from right tackle to left tackle.

1811
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 2: All right, gentlemen, as we take a look at the

1812
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 2: NFL at large in Week one. One of the things

1813
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 2: that we do in Week one is we overreact wildly positively,

1814
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:16,799
Speaker 2: and then we overreact wildly negatively. Was there a result

1815
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 2: over the weekend hoff that you just kind of blew

1816
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:22,599
Speaker 2: your mind just kind of like, wow, how did that happen?

1817
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,560
Speaker 2: And negatively and then do you have one positively that

1818
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 2: you think, Wow, they're better than I thought?

1819
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 6: Well, I think the Colts winning thirty three to eight

1820
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 6: over the Dolphins is probably the answer for both of

1821
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 6: those questions, because I kind of thought the Dolphins were

1822
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 6: going to get back to being a high potent offense

1823
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:42,559
Speaker 6: and maybe some of the excitement that Mike McDaniel brought

1824
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:44,600
Speaker 6: when he first went down there. But that was just

1825
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 6: a stinker. I mean, they didn't have a single point

1826
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 6: until the fourth quarter.

1827
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 2: It was pathetic.

1828
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 6: It was not a pretty game to watch, and to

1829
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 6: get just tore up by Danny Dimes twenty two of

1830
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 6: twenty nine for two hundred and seventy two yards and

1831
01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 6: putting up thirty three points on the Dolphins defense for

1832
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 6: a team that really I don't think anybody thought the

1833
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 6: Colts are really even serious about this season, just kind

1834
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 6: of figuring out we'll put Danny Dimes in there. He'll

1835
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:10,160
Speaker 6: be a good placeholder for us until we get a

1836
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 6: different quarterback. But shoot, he lit him up, and I

1837
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:14,719
Speaker 6: think he surprised a lot of people. It'll be interesting

1838
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 6: to see if there's any follow through, right, because, like

1839
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:19,679
Speaker 6: you mentioned, there's a lot of overreaction the first week

1840
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 6: of the season, good and bad. Right. The people in

1841
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,720
Speaker 6: Miami are panicking, the people in Indianapolis are crowning him

1842
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 6: super Bowl champs. So what's that follow through going to

1843
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 6: look like? Now that everybody's got some film on these guys,

1844
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:31,640
Speaker 6: they kind of know maybe some of the things that

1845
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 6: are weaknesses that we can attack. And then week two

1846
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 6: a lot of times can be quite a bit different,

1847
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 6: especially with now maybe we know that the Dolphins stink.

1848
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 4: I was blown away by that one. I mean we

1849
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 4: scored on every possession, yeah, which is Indy did right,

1850
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 4: every possession, Dan Dimes, Indianapolis Colts. That's the list of teams, Not.

1851
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 2: The Manny Colts, not the Montana Niners, the Dan Dimes Colts.

1852
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 4: I'll give another team that I thought was very disappointing.

1853
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 4: I know the Broncos ultimately got it done, but I

1854
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 4: thought that should have been a lot easier than it was.

1855
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:05,960
Speaker 2: Skeptical in Nix that did it.

1856
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 4: Look the other one though, CJ. Stroud and the Houston

1857
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 4: Texans maybe he's just not good.

1858
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1859
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 2: I mean, they couldn't get Nico Collins involved at all

1860
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 2: at all. Yeah, there was Look at they scored nine points.

1861
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 2: They did. Now the Rams defense is a real one,

1862
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 2: but but still yeah, no, there there were a lot

1863
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:32,440
Speaker 2: of those. And then in our division we have Pittsburgh

1864
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:37,480
Speaker 2: hoff because of course, of course Rogers throws four touchdowns,

1865
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 2: of course all of those things.

1866
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 5: Makes a sixty yard field goal to win it.

1867
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 2: Of course he does.

1868
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 4: Why wouldn't it have been good from seventy by the way, Yeah,

1869
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 4: it would have been good from seventy.

1870
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 3: By the way.

1871
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:48,800
Speaker 2: So of course they were gonna get on. So you

1872
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 2: were calling our game all this happened. But there is

1873
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 2: a two minute it's within a couple of minutes where

1874
01:26:54,320 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 2: the Tillman off of Tillman's hands caught interception and they

1875
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 2: were on on the two channels. So the other part

1876
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 2: of it was for in the Pittsburgh game, that's when

1877
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 2: they get the ball bounces off of a Steeler player,

1878
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 2: off of a jet dk Metcalf is laying on the

1879
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,560
Speaker 2: ground and the ball falls on his chest and he

1880
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 2: just grabs it.

1881
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:18,599
Speaker 4: There was a pass a Metcalf hit off of him.

1882
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 4: Gardner knocks it up the air, hits John news Smith

1883
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 4: and then it falls onto Metcalf who's lying on the

1884
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 4: ground and he just catches it.

1885
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that happens within two minutes. Then they bang

1886
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 2: a sixty yarder to win the thing. So you got

1887
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:32,560
Speaker 2: that to deal with. And then the other thing that

1888
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 2: happened was what happened in Buffalo last night. I've never

1889
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 2: seen Baltimore lose like that. In fact, nobody in the

1890
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 2: NFL has ever lost like that. I don't know if

1891
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 2: you saw this stat when you rush for over two

1892
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:47,599
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five yards yep, and you lead going

1893
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 2: into the fourth quarter or no, you score for more

1894
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 2: than forty points, score score forty or more points and

1895
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:56,759
Speaker 2: rush for two seventy two, seventy seven and zero until

1896
01:27:56,840 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 2: last night all time history, I know, thirty seven and oh.

1897
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:04,919
Speaker 5: And it took Henry fumbles.

1898
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. You get a ball that is thrown short of.

1899
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:10,639
Speaker 4: The end zone that deflects back and into the arms

1900
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 4: of Kean Coleman. Right, you had so many things that

1901
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 4: went and then Matt Prater makes kick on a one

1902
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,560
Speaker 4: that Kyle Hamilton should have blocked. Believe he missed it.

1903
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:20,599
Speaker 4: He kind of did a little hot not over the line,

1904
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 4: but through a gap in the line. Yeah, it's great

1905
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 4: wild Yeah, I thought that was a great game last night.

1906
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 4: I fell asleep obviously, Yeah, me tour. But then I

1907
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:30,480
Speaker 4: woke up and watched.

1908
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 3: The end of it.

1909
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:32,680
Speaker 2: Once I saw that, like what happened, I wanted to

1910
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 2: actually watch it and real forty to twenty five, I'm good,

1911
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 2: I'll see I'll see it tomorrow.

1912
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:39,519
Speaker 5: I've had my four minutes. I'm good four minutes.

1913
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:41,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you're pushing in the chips at that.

1914
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 4: So I do think when they went up it was

1915
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 4: forty one twenty five, they were up sixteen kicking the point.

1916
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:52,679
Speaker 5: I thought they should have gone for two right there.

1917
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:59,560
Speaker 4: Because if you're up fifteen, it's still they'd have to

1918
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 4: get a touch down into two. But if you hit

1919
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:05,560
Speaker 4: the two, it's now a three possession game. Yeah, you

1920
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:07,679
Speaker 4: get to seventeen, you're up seventeen.

1921
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:12,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it changes the way the other team approaches

1922
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 2: about their business.

1923
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, completely, So that one was interesting.

1924
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 4: Now I've seen all the debate today about and collins Worth,

1925
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:22,200
Speaker 4: I get. I said it on the broadcast when I

1926
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 4: was listening that at fourth and three long two short

1927
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 4: three maybe from their own thirty eight up forty one

1928
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 4: to forty.

1929
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:33,560
Speaker 2: They wanted them to go for it.

1930
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:37,640
Speaker 4: They wanted the rate go for it right there, that

1931
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:40,719
Speaker 4: going for it as a higher chance of victory.

1932
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 2: Now to me, it's like if you don't get it,

1933
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 2: then you're probably gonna lose.

1934
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it maybe try to put them away right there.

1935
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Speaker 2: It's it's Baltimore had so much into the game, clearly,

1936
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 2: and they were so dominant, like Darren dominant, just crazy,

1937
01:29:56,479 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 2: Lamar's crazy, the two of them. It's just a flowers,

1938
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 2: such a full to deal with and to lose in

1939
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 2: the fashion like that is it's really difficult to wrap

1940
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 2: your head around. And the bad news for us is

1941
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:10,600
Speaker 2: they will attempt to take all of this out on

1942
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:12,840
Speaker 2: us on Sunday when we go over there. I'll have

1943
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:15,960
Speaker 2: all a week to talk about that, obviously, but a

1944
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:18,760
Speaker 2: wild week one in so many ways. You think about

1945
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:21,599
Speaker 2: how pedestrian, go back to Friday, how pedestrian the Chiefs

1946
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 2: looked in their game against the Chargers. They were just

1947
01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:28,840
Speaker 2: completely outmatched in that game, completely really no weapons since

1948
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 2: Tyreek Kill left, they have no weapons down the field

1949
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 2: at all. Mahomes trying to force things into spots there aren't.

1950
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:36,960
Speaker 2: And then you look at the stuff that happened over

1951
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 2: the day yesterday, You're right, the CJ. Stroud stuff in

1952
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 2: Houston is it's not right. It doesn't look right. It

1953
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 2: certainly doesn't look how it looked two years ago when

1954
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 2: they bounced us in the postseason. We're a long we're

1955
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:50,679
Speaker 2: a far cry from that for them. So, yeah, there

1956
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:53,320
Speaker 2: was some it's great to have it back. There are

1957
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:55,400
Speaker 2: going to be some overreactions Green Bay. Who I think

1958
01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 2: you and I both had winning the Super Bowl right

1959
01:30:57,200 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 2: now or no, in the super Bowl right now. You

1960
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 2: feel like it's going to track good by the way

1961
01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 2: we play them in a couple of weeks. Detroit maybe

1962
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:08,160
Speaker 2: missed those coat those coordinators a little more than we

1963
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 2: gave them credit for it, because it's not just the coordinators.

1964
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 2: They're missing eight coaches. Detroit is from all of that,

1965
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:17,120
Speaker 2: So all of those things are very very difficult on

1966
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Speaker 2: that side of things. All right, Monday Night Football tonight

1967
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Speaker 2: as well You've got the Bears and you've got the Viking,

1968
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:24,280
Speaker 2: so a lot to look forward to on that. We

1969
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Speaker 2: are back tomorrow. Thanks for listening, Budy, Cleveland Brown's Daily,

1970
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1971
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1972
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