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Speaker 1: Advice.

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Speaker 2: It's welcome to the Naughty Nice. I'm your host, d

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Speaker 2: Realm Shooter, and it is Wednesday, which means our dear

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Speaker 2: friend Donnie Meacham joins us. Hey, Donnie, are you there?

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Speaker 1: Hello? It is Wednesday. Wednesday, Wednesday the best day of

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Speaker 1: the week in my opinion show. But the week's halfway through.

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Speaker 1: Were there having fun? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: My life is so busy with things that I love doing,

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Speaker 2: including this podcast, mainly this podcast, that my days fly

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Speaker 2: by rather fast and so I'm really enjoying it. I've

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Speaker 2: started a new thing too, if you follow me on Instagram,

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Speaker 2: the Naughty Gossip. Now throughout the day in my story section,

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Speaker 2: I'm giving you all the updates throughout the day. So

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Speaker 2: websites are dead now. People don't go to websites anymore.

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Speaker 2: You've got to bring the gossip to the people. They're

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Speaker 2: not coming to you. So I'm happy. If Mohammad won't

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Speaker 2: come to the mountain, the mountain will come. Is that

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Speaker 2: the expression? I think that's the expression to get that right?

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Speaker 1: Yes, if Muhammad won't come to the mountain, we'll bring

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Speaker 1: the mountain to Muhammad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Well, I'm Mohammad here. You're the Mountain, Donnie,

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to bring it to you, so check

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Speaker 2: it out. Okay, let's jump into the show. What Tam

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Speaker 2: is it? My friends? It is time big story at

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Speaker 2: the top of the show, Meghan Markle's x aid inside

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Speaker 2: the Palace has confirmed that she did give an interview

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Speaker 2: internally over the staff being bullied by Meghan Markel. So

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Speaker 2: this is the first time that we've had this really confirmed.

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Speaker 2: A recent confirmation by Samantha Cohen, who was a former

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Speaker 2: Royal aid about being interview would internally regarding allegations of

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Speaker 2: the staff being bullied by Meghan Markle has shed some

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Speaker 2: new light and at least some new buzz into this story.

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Speaker 2: So Cohen has been in the Palace, or was in

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Speaker 2: the Palace, She's no longer there for a really long time.

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Speaker 2: She used to work for the late Queen, and she

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Speaker 2: to be questioned about the allegations. Now, she did not

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Speaker 2: get into specific details, and she did mention though that

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Speaker 2: the staff has had an enormous amount of turnover under

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Speaker 2: Harry and Meghan. Part of that is they wanted to

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Speaker 2: do things a different way. If you got a job

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Speaker 2: with the Queen or King Charles. It's the same job.

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Speaker 2: They're not changing anything. They don't want to come in

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Speaker 2: there and shake it up. Meghan and Harry wanted a

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Speaker 2: new path and so they wanted their people. They're not

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Speaker 2: somebody they inherited from his grandmother. I think this the

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Speaker 2: headline's dramatic, but I think if we really dig deep here, Donney,

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Speaker 2: it's just a change. Whenever you get a new boss,

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Speaker 2: think about where you work, wherever you work naughties, When

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Speaker 2: a new boss comes in, they don't have to be

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Speaker 2: a bully. They just want to do things differently, and

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Speaker 2: often that means a turnover in the staff. I think

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Speaker 2: that's what's going on here. I'll be really disappointed if

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Speaker 2: it's the If it's the other, what do you think?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's a very tricky situation here, because

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Speaker 1: I know we've all been in that situation. A new

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Speaker 1: and you're like, who are you to tell me what

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Speaker 1: like i'm the bath. But you feel that it might

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Speaker 1: be bullying, or you feel that it might be they're

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Speaker 1: bath and I'm now telling you to do something differently,

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Speaker 1: and you're like, but I've been working here forever. It's

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Speaker 1: a really tricky situation. It's a fine line.

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Speaker 2: It is tricky.

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Speaker 1: Could Meghan have handled it better? Who knows? Yes?

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Speaker 2: We all could. Yes, yeah. I've looked back over my

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Speaker 2: put people's feathers out of place, so to speak, and

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Speaker 2: looking back, I could have handled it a little better.

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Speaker 2: But nevertheless, I was the boss and changes were going

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Speaker 2: to happen. I was hired to make some changes. Now.

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Speaker 2: The difference here is Meg and Harry weren't hired. They

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Speaker 2: is important. The allegations of bullying against Meghan. The first

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Speaker 2: I just think it's that they came in a little

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Speaker 2: They don't like change. Donnie. When I rocked up a

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Speaker 1: No, you were fab you what me you did walk

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Speaker 1: in with a like a peacock you just want your

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Speaker 1: let's have a lot of fun, let's do things.

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Speaker 2: I like new Blood. I do. It shakes up an office,

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Speaker 2: doesn't it. It really does shake it all up, Which

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Speaker 2: brings us to Apphole question of the day. Meghan Markle's

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Speaker 2: internally over the staff being bullied, allegedly being bullied by

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Speaker 2: Meghan Markel. Do you think that Meghan's a bully? Or

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Speaker 2: is this the palace playing naughty dirty dirty business? Hey,

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Speaker 2: your results. Hey, Donnie Love, what are you working on?

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Speaker 1: H Courtney Love, what are you, oh well doing? So

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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift was called not interesting by Courtney Love and ooh,

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Speaker 1: stating that she doesn't view Swift as important or interesting

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Speaker 1: she also criticized Lana del Rey, and Swift's fan base

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Speaker 1: because in twenty twenty one she did wish Taylor a

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Speaker 1: is she an aspirational role model but not very important

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Speaker 1: But also she can believe what you want to believe. Courtney.

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Speaker 1: You know, is in a band called Garbage, which is

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Speaker 2: You know, they do a.

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Speaker 1: Little more like punk and a little more rocks and

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I think you don't have to appreciate or

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Speaker 2: like Taylor's music. But saying that she's not important is ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: She's arguably the most important pop star of the generation. Like,

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Speaker 2: there's nobody as big as Taylor Swift, Beyonce. Fans are

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Speaker 2: She's an absolute monster of a star. It's like saying

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Speaker 2: Madonna was not important. She changed everything. Michael Jackson you

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Speaker 2: you're changing your two one If you never ever had

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Speaker 2: liked Taylor, fine, but a couple of years ago, not

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Speaker 2: that many, you were trying to get a retention on

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Speaker 2: social media. I think this comes across as just jealousy,

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Speaker 2: for all of us when you try to knock somebody

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Speaker 2: listening to as Show Donnie, not one person's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: Courtney is right. What we're thinking is Courtney's a fool.

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Speaker 2: It's always the messenger that looks like a fool. So

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Speaker 2: next time you want to knock a friend down or

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Speaker 2: All you will do is make everybody realize that maybe

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Speaker 1: Also convenient that Taylor has a new album coming out

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Speaker 2: We call this the Bethany Frankel School of pr Bethany

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Speaker 2: always finds somebody that's in the news. Somebody it's very,

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Speaker 2: their Remember when she used to go after Kim Kardashian.

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Speaker 2: I think she's talked out too about Taylor Swift. This

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Speaker 2: talk about bigger stars. It'd be like me gossiping about

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Speaker 2: Not a good look. Okay, moving along. Patti Stanger, remember

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Speaker 2: her the Millionaire Matchmaker. She's back back on a new

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Speaker 2: show dating. I didn't watch it, but I might. I

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Speaker 2: revealed that lu Aanne is the life and the soul

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Speaker 2: want to go out. He Olivia is his name, very

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Speaker 2: You're not a good fit. There's no shade here. Figure

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Speaker 2: find it. It's that easy, Donnie. What are you like,

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Speaker 2: my friend? Do you like somebody like Luanne who goes

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Speaker 2: more reserved? Some people might say boring, I don't. I

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Speaker 2: say reserved and stay home and watch TV. What's your

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Speaker 1: It's like I wantn't with I feel like I'm in

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Speaker 1: and I'm out there. But the other times I'm like,

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Speaker 1: wine and watch some trashy reality TV. That's what I

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Speaker 1: but I also don't want to date someone who's going

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I dobody who's out there. People are like, oh,

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Speaker 1: he's fabulous, but no, no, no, no, I'm fabious.

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Speaker 2: I'm fabulous. That's why we could never date on it

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Speaker 1: Oh? Just the man can do no wrong, no wrong.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Naughty but Nic Show, one from

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Speaker 2: And now I know which is the day. Naughty, naughty, naughty.

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Speaker 2: Today's moment of rob The truth is the people that

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Speaker 2: to say, on a personal note, Norties, you have held

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Speaker 2: You bring me happiness. Okay, that is it for today.

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