Speaker 1: Watch up and welcome back to another episode and No
Speaker 1: Sillers podcast with your host. Now funk that with your
Speaker 1: low glasses, Malone, pet dog. We're back, man, how are thanks?
Speaker 1: How's how's the weather out in the desert? That's hot?
Speaker 1: She saw good though, Man, I ain't wanted them one.
Speaker 1: I spent too much time complaining about something that God
Speaker 1: got control of. Calm. It seems like a waste of time,
Speaker 1: I would agree. I would tend to agree. I'm still
Speaker 1: getting used to looking outside here and I see that
Speaker 1: it's gray and it's raining. I oh, it's gonna be cold,
Speaker 1: and then walking outside and it's still hot. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a mental adjustment for me. That humidity out in
Speaker 1: uh Florida is like crazy. But again, complaining about the
Speaker 1: weather is a waste of time. Did you um, did
Speaker 1: you see uh what happened with kid Cutty? Did you watch?
Speaker 1: It was a short clip about like I watched like
Speaker 1: Friday night or Saturday morning. It was like he was
Speaker 1: saying something about, you guys, do any of this again.
Speaker 1: I'm leaving it and they did it again and he left. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know what he was thinking. Um. And it's
Speaker 1: funny because I was talking to somebody about it, and
Speaker 1: they were telling me like, uh that him and Kanye
Speaker 1: are ops, and I'm like, Kanye put Cutty on how
Speaker 1: the fund would they be ops? And he felt like
Speaker 1: that matter, Like Kanye went out ahead of time with
Speaker 1: Dirk and it was like, oh, Kanye, you know, did
Speaker 1: that on purpose? And I'm like, what's going on today
Speaker 1: in society? There's a lot of people that are trying
Speaker 1: to have a mental ununderstanding of what other human beings
Speaker 1: are going through without ever asking questions. Like I even
Speaker 1: noticed that when we watch sports and people will tell you, oh,
Speaker 1: this person is mentally weak, and I'm like, how would
Speaker 1: you know if you never talked to that person. But
Speaker 1: they were talking about Kanye's motive, about why he didn't
Speaker 1: headline and why he came out on Dirk set, and
Speaker 1: then we could talk about cutties mentality or his mental
Speaker 1: you know, dealing with it and walking on stage. But
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing, walking on stage is the
Speaker 1: worst thing you could do. Um don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1: I think we're at this really tender place in society
Speaker 1: to where they make cater to your emotions. But for
Speaker 1: the most part, humanity has shown to be pretty much
Speaker 1: dicks all the time. Yeah. Yeah, I've been not pleased
Speaker 1: with how well received a number of athletes over the
Speaker 1: last couple of years. As who are you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna do this. I need to take a mental
Speaker 1: health you know, vacation from whatever. Like what was her
Speaker 1: name was? Osaka the tennis player? Like, I've been a
Speaker 1: test fan for a lot of years. Um, I remember
Speaker 1: Monica Celli is getting stabbed literally courtside, you know, and
Speaker 1: coming back and playing, not with the stabbed shoulder, but
Speaker 1: like once the wound healed, she was playing. She didn't
Speaker 1: take at the time off from having to recover from
Speaker 1: being stabbed in the middle of a match. You know.
Speaker 1: Even Nancy Carrigan came back and got a silver medal
Speaker 1: after they clipped her leg with the pipe. Yeah, I mean, well,
Speaker 1: rap is in a weird place. Um, wrap is in
Speaker 1: a super weird place. Like hip hop and rap are different.
Speaker 1: Hip hop is the culture. Rap is the language. M
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you could sing things
Speaker 1: in hip hop. I mean you can sing about experiences,
Speaker 1: you can sing hip hop experiences and it's still be
Speaker 1: hip hop. But like Nick Dogg a hip hop artist, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Nate is a hip hop artist and Future is a
Speaker 1: hip hop artist. But it's it's weird trying to explain
Speaker 1: that with every to everybody, right, because what you have
Speaker 1: now is a generation of kids coming into this genre
Speaker 1: that they call hip hop and be like, well, I
Speaker 1: listen to hip hop music, so I'm hip hop and
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's weird, and I respect it, like I
Speaker 1: get what they're saying, but it's like, you don't have
Speaker 1: to be hip hop too, Like I don't know if
Speaker 1: Dicky Vitale would give a nigga fifty points in the
Speaker 1: game or Skip Bayless would give somebody seventy points in
Speaker 1: the game, Like, you don't have to be, you know,
Speaker 1: actual player to know the game. But for some reason,
Speaker 1: I listened to of people who cover hipop and they're like,
Speaker 1: why cover it? I'm a part of it or I
Speaker 1: am hip hop, and it's like, no, you cover the culture, right,
Speaker 1: But I wanted to focus more on the language and
Speaker 1: the actual people who focus on the language and what's
Speaker 1: going on currently. Um, another kid got killed in Florida
Speaker 1: and people so the way the media outlets reported it,
Speaker 1: I forgot the kid's name. Um, let me don't be
Speaker 1: rude first, and we find out because nine fob he
Speaker 1: was a rapper, all right, Huh he was a rapper, Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: And this is my point, right, Um, he's a rapper.
Speaker 1: And I hate to do this because I don't like
Speaker 1: calling people's name, but it's for a greater point. Uh
Speaker 1: God damn. They got this whole article on him on
Speaker 1: Fox News. His name is ROLLI Bands Okay out of Florida,
Speaker 1: and he posted something on this social media to the
Speaker 1: effect of, like, my enemies know where I'll be at
Speaker 1: or where I'm sleeping at. Whenever they're ready, they could
Speaker 1: come see me. And he died. You know, we got
Speaker 1: killed within the within you know, a window of that time,
Speaker 1: five to ten minutes. And everybody assumed that, like his
Speaker 1: ops followed him on Instagram, as they say, the ops,
Speaker 1: his opposition followed him on Instagram and decided like, okay,
Speaker 1: he's putting that up, let me go kill it. And
Speaker 1: that's pretty quick. Yeah. I'm like, as somebody who's been
Speaker 1: a part of the criminal underworld for a lot of
Speaker 1: years before I started making music, and even during that time,
Speaker 1: most likely that's not how it goes, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Um, and it forced another conversation. Somebody kept
Speaker 1: asking me, was being a rapper the most dangerous job
Speaker 1: in the world, And I'm like, like, ideally, it's the
Speaker 1: easiest job in the world, right to be a rapper.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what you're rapping about is everything, like
Speaker 1: nobody to come funk you up, watch what you say
Speaker 1: about people. Did you ever have any of your find
Speaker 1: yourself in the mix of any rap or hip hop music,
Speaker 1: general music? Nine? You know basic regular one, seventeenth related ship.
Speaker 1: You know that that occurred as a result of of
Speaker 1: your artistic career solely that you were in the mix
Speaker 1: of that didn't get out really um where you were
Speaker 1: like this is getting a little temperature in the room,
Speaker 1: a little warm. No, I never got that far. But
Speaker 1: there were certain times, like my neighborhood and a neighborhood
Speaker 1: that I grew up pretty much like looking up to
Speaker 1: every g person there. I'm on a part right coolios
Speaker 1: from onnaport a lot of a lot of niggas I
Speaker 1: looked up to my whole life, just like my older
Speaker 1: homes from neighborhood for me, um, they were from monapart
Speaker 1: compter crypt like it's a really close neighborhood to where
Speaker 1: I'm from, and they started, you know, my generation or
Speaker 1: younger um started. They started having issues over a dice
Speaker 1: game and it went bad. And even though we pretty
Speaker 1: much been thinking Steves as long as I could remember,
Speaker 1: for that time being, it was like problems. I mean,
Speaker 1: people was getting shot at, people was getting shot. They
Speaker 1: got bad. The long story short, I had put out
Speaker 1: that good, and that good became like my biggest party song.
Speaker 1: And there's a line in the stone where I say,
Speaker 1: um something about mashing like potatoes or mashing like tatoes.
Speaker 1: And I was getting calls from people over there or
Speaker 1: certain homies that was like, glasses, is this in the
Speaker 1: hood and this new song? And I guess culturally that's
Speaker 1: how you dissed the neighborhoo, which is weird because I've
Speaker 1: never beef with them as long as I can remember,
Speaker 1: like since a kid, So I never even knew how
Speaker 1: to this mo on the park like again, firm, different people,
Speaker 1: Big Mike, you know so many geez I look up
Speaker 1: to from over there that I never really realized that's
Speaker 1: how you dissed them, And uh, it was just weird,
Speaker 1: And I was like, bro, why would y'all be thinking,
Speaker 1: why would y'all be thinking I would be this in
Speaker 1: y'all community, like in a song about sleeping with girls
Speaker 1: or a period like like y'all know we know each
Speaker 1: other our whole life. Why would I Why would I
Speaker 1: be dissing y'all in a song like I don't care
Speaker 1: what's going on? Like if that was a real issue,
Speaker 1: I would see somebody in person and have my issue.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't make a rap record in like, you know,
Speaker 1: performing like I don't think that's really the thing for me.
Speaker 1: Long story short, it got resolved real fast, But it
Speaker 1: was just weird to me, um to think that somebody
Speaker 1: would be thinking I would be thinking about them in
Speaker 1: a rap record when I'm talking about sleep over women.
Speaker 1: That it was really strange, was there? Like does your
Speaker 1: neighborhood really or is it a little too far down
Speaker 1: the street to have any type of relationship or interaction
Speaker 1: with Bounty Hunters because like Jay rocks from there and
Speaker 1: you you have a professional relationship with him, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we're close enough to have problems. I mean
Speaker 1: we had social issues before, something with chocolate, something with
Speaker 1: a couple of homies, but it's always been amicably resolved.
Speaker 1: I mean it was always resolved in a really you know,
Speaker 1: excellent manner. You know, Um, really it's some my younger
Speaker 1: homies got some crazy ship going on, but I'm not
Speaker 1: tapped into it, you know. I mean, I wouldn't know
Speaker 1: what the fund is going on, but it wouldn't be
Speaker 1: with the Bonny. And it's just always been pretty much
Speaker 1: fruitful relationship with the Tommies from the pretty much from
Speaker 1: the Jordan's Downs, Imperial Courts, Nikolason Guards has always been cool. Um,
Speaker 1: no sense you had to have had a thing was
Speaker 1: for the pj's. I mean my older homies did, but
Speaker 1: not my interation like that was like a perpetual thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, um, really, most very few gang wars
Speaker 1: are perpetual like that, Like the sixties and the Eight
Speaker 1: Trades are like that kind of situation. But then they'll
Speaker 1: go it'll it'll be months and close to a year,
Speaker 1: and nobody may get shot in that incident. What I'm saying,
Speaker 1: they're not going at it. But then sometimes it heats
Speaker 1: up and something bad happened and they go at it.
Speaker 1: But no Sillers gl Peter Bias for me in the
Speaker 1: spot and we're doing what we do. Um, but I
Speaker 1: wanted to talk to you about rapping, and I feel
Speaker 1: like it's a conversation that needs to be had. Um
Speaker 1: wrapping is is a particular language that almost anybody could speak.
Speaker 1: It's not like like hip hop is street urban, right,
Speaker 1: So that's it's the culture of street urban people, right.
Speaker 1: And whether you're criminal or not, you know that that
Speaker 1: lifestyle shaped your life. Like if you listen to Good
Speaker 1: Kid Man City, it's the exact opposite of maybe my
Speaker 1: experiences as a participant, but it pretty much shaped his life,
Speaker 1: you know, Kendrick's life as an observer. But then there's
Speaker 1: other genres like what Jack Harlowe is doing, right, which
Speaker 1: is a level of mainstream rap. And rap is a
Speaker 1: wide open thing because it's it's as simple as words,
Speaker 1: being witty with words, but the times when being witty
Speaker 1: with words can be dangerous. That's what I want to
Speaker 1: talk to you about. I felt like that was a
Speaker 1: conversation that we don't have um right now. Thug is
Speaker 1: Thug and Gunna and their team is fighting uh a
Speaker 1: Rico charge right down in Georgia, and people are talking
Speaker 1: about them using their rap lyrics as evidence in the case.
Speaker 1: And it's a bit misleading because they have real evidence
Speaker 1: and real snitches in that case, you know, but they
Speaker 1: know it's sensationalized to say we're using rap lyrics. Mm hmm,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So wrapping is a language
Speaker 1: that anybody can speak. And you know, especially in today's
Speaker 1: time where all the equipment is cheat you can get
Speaker 1: free beats off YouTube. Anybody can rap. But I'm not
Speaker 1: sure I like the concept of calling everybody a rapper,
Speaker 1: like particularly this kid rolling bands, rest his soul, shout
Speaker 1: out to his family. I pray for them, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, to find piece with what's going on,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But somebody could work at
Speaker 1: In and Out you I mean Burger or they could
Speaker 1: work at Guineas for ten years and if they make
Speaker 1: ten songs, right, somebody would consider them a rapper once
Speaker 1: they die. Like I've never heard I've never heard the
Speaker 1: name Roaldi bands. I don't know too many people that
Speaker 1: posted this music before. I'm pretty avid on new stuff
Speaker 1: coming out, like I always hear names, but I think
Speaker 1: they use the term rapper because it's sensationalizes the genre itself.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, up and coming or a rapper another
Speaker 1: rapper gets killed, and it's like then I heard Charleston
Speaker 1: White saying that, you know all the rappers, and it's like, bro,
Speaker 1: this ship is just a job. It's just a job,
Speaker 1: like being a postman, you know what I mean. Does
Speaker 1: the postman have influence on the community? Fuck? Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: Does the president have influence on the community. Yes, that's
Speaker 1: doctor just have influences on the community. Yet but for
Speaker 1: some reason, rap is singled out consistently, you know, amongst
Speaker 1: the financially valuable or elite, like it's some kind of
Speaker 1: extra influential thing versus a movie star. And I just
Speaker 1: wanted to see where you really set with that. How
Speaker 1: did you feel about that? Well, I think I've said
Speaker 1: before that I find it odd the way music has
Speaker 1: always been seen differently as an art form by critical
Speaker 1: media in regards to what happens outside the confine of
Speaker 1: the piece of art than movies have. You know, like
Speaker 1: you could be like Miami rip Ross not l Across,
Speaker 1: to the best of mine understanding, is not a large
Speaker 1: scale drug trafficker. He's making content about that in the
Speaker 1: same way that Mario Puzzo was never a godfather, don
Speaker 1: you know? So, so you look at the way certain artists,
Speaker 1: even like Ozzy Osborne getting blamed for like kids committing
Speaker 1: suicide or something like that, you know in the eighties,
Speaker 1: like having to go to court over it. There's a
Speaker 1: different perceived responsibility or perceived parallel between music and between
Speaker 1: movies and television. You make like Sevestal Slone all his
Speaker 1: movies incredibly violence. Somebody's a big Rambo fan and goes crazy,
Speaker 1: I was going after Sylvester, you know, I really don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think maybe because of the target audience
Speaker 1: and because people kind of go like a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff happens statistically between like say those ages of like
Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen and like early twenties, right, and there's a
Speaker 1: lot of people who historically or once certainly once the
Speaker 1: invention of the headphone or the portable music device came around,
Speaker 1: that would go to their room and listen to music.
Speaker 1: And people would think, oh, they're going to listen to
Speaker 1: music and becoming weird. It's like, no, they were, they
Speaker 1: were weird. They were going to listen to music to
Speaker 1: deal with it, you know what. Whatever, Yeah, I agree,
Speaker 1: music is not the inspiration. Music is the soundtrack of
Speaker 1: life for some somehow rappers are being blamed like they're
Speaker 1: the inspiration versus the soundtrack for existing things happening. Like
Speaker 1: rappers don't really create as much lingo, Like usually the
Speaker 1: streets are talking a certain way, or humanity is talking
Speaker 1: a certain way, and rappers pick up the lingo and
Speaker 1: it could get popular because of them, but rest as
Speaker 1: sure somebody's talking that way. Yeah, totally. I think Also,
Speaker 1: like because of the nature of the way music is
Speaker 1: always coming out all the time, so like rap music
Speaker 1: tends to come out in a pretty steady stream, and
Speaker 1: it's to a degree largely like if if we're bringing
Speaker 1: it up into movies, it's always like say an action movie.
Speaker 1: You know, It's not like one albums in action movie
Speaker 1: and the next one's like some Aliens movie, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So if if you're Sony or if
Speaker 1: you're Paramount and you own a record company and you
Speaker 1: own the news channel and the cable company, it would
Speaker 1: behoo view two market something that might create more parallel
Speaker 1: interest in other spaces that you also own. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Do you feel rappers have that type of responsibility now,
Speaker 1: all the rappers, but it's not on the rappers. I
Speaker 1: mean the lag time between content creation and the point
Speaker 1: where the content has been released and listened to and
Speaker 1: something could be possibly derived from that content. It's pretty significant.
Speaker 1: It might be six months to a year. You know,
Speaker 1: that's a lot of foresight. Mm hmmm. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It just gets weirder and weirder to to listen to people. Yesterday,
Speaker 1: I was talking about so it's one thing, right. I
Speaker 1: was telling nucle trash like right, and were talking about
Speaker 1: rap music and hip hop in the mix of everything,
Speaker 1: and I was trying to express to him how like
Speaker 1: it's one thing to rap, like somebody right, it's a
Speaker 1: it's a kid named Slim Jesus that like came out
Speaker 1: and admitted like, yo, you know, I'm not a part
Speaker 1: of drill culture. Like I didn't grow up like that.
Speaker 1: I just like the music, so I wrapped like it.
Speaker 1: But it would be different if he's like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: a I'm a drill artist, like I'm I'm I'm really
Speaker 1: a part of a culture. So I think rap is dope,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Um, when it's like that,
Speaker 1: But the problem is when you have people rapping about
Speaker 1: lifestyles that they actually are not familiar with, and no
Speaker 1: matter how many times they do it or how convincingly
Speaker 1: they believe they are, it always comes across a bit
Speaker 1: parody is if you didn't grow up next to it
Speaker 1: with like like like like you could wrap about being
Speaker 1: a drug dealer if you live next to a drug dealer,
Speaker 1: like if you knew him and experienced it, and you
Speaker 1: would represent him and wrap even if people mistake it
Speaker 1: to be for you. You can get it off culturally.
Speaker 1: But the problem is when everything you're rapping about is
Speaker 1: something you see through a screen. You know, maybe you
Speaker 1: see it through a phone screen, maybe you see it
Speaker 1: through a TV screen, and then you're like, Okay, I
Speaker 1: see that. I'm going to wrap about it, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And that's where it comes across a
Speaker 1: bit parody is and you could tell like it won't
Speaker 1: fit on no level. And I was expressing to the
Speaker 1: to him about this about up and coming Latino artists,
Speaker 1: and he he asked me, he was like, well, do
Speaker 1: you think like black people can notice it in black artists?
Speaker 1: I'm like, hell, yeah, we always know when somebody is
Speaker 1: not you know, when they're just rapping and they're truly
Speaker 1: a part of that culture. I used the line I
Speaker 1: was talking. I had the same conversation like five days ago,
Speaker 1: and I said, yeah, there's there's a lot of artists
Speaker 1: right now that are really popular, and you can if
Speaker 1: you listen to hard enough, you can hear the quarterly
Speaker 1: reports and the records. How hard is it for you
Speaker 1: to tell when you're listening to rap was legiti and
Speaker 1: what was not legit? I mean to me, it's not
Speaker 1: It's not hard. Um, I don't. I don't. I haven't
Speaker 1: listen to a lot of newer stuff closely enough to
Speaker 1: pay attention. I'm just kind of listening to drum beats
Speaker 1: at this point in time. You know, it's background noise.
Speaker 1: But like when I was younger, yeah, it's it wasn't
Speaker 1: challenging that, you know, tell a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of the stuff that like like PMC talking about guys
Speaker 1: spitting fake dope prices on the ozone, you know interview
Speaker 1: back way back in the day, that wasn't new necessarily
Speaker 1: news to me. You know, I'm just like these you know,
Speaker 1: some guy says I I some guy originally got very
Speaker 1: popular because he came out and said I made a
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars I bought five of these at this
Speaker 1: and I moved him for that, And then another guy
Speaker 1: came out and said, well, that made have a lot
Speaker 1: of money. I sold twenty and bought a million dollar
Speaker 1: house and a chain, and I sold mine for blank
Speaker 1: It's like you only said that because he said that. Wow. Um,
Speaker 1: it's not as easy for the general public to be
Speaker 1: able to tell though. Yeah, that's that's yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: That's true. And I noticed early in my career I
Speaker 1: never felt the pressure to to be over expressive about
Speaker 1: who I was because you know where I come from.
Speaker 1: If somebody says something, it's easy to check up on
Speaker 1: who that person is, Like any rapper in California, not
Speaker 1: just at l A, any rapper in California. Hell, honestly,
Speaker 1: for me, any rapper across the country. Fear me. I
Speaker 1: could tell. I could find out it's one degree of
Speaker 1: separation if at best two or three, and I can
Speaker 1: tell you how legit that person street activity is. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever cared about it, you know, Um,
Speaker 1: long as they're not trying to overpass it off like
Speaker 1: it's legit, Like if they're just rapping about it, I'm
Speaker 1: not super vesting in it. Like if your music is good.
Speaker 1: I'm cool with it. But it really became important to
Speaker 1: me over the last three years to separate hip hop
Speaker 1: from rapping. Like Debbie Harry from Blondie was rapping. I
Speaker 1: mean it, rap is different. So I just think about
Speaker 1: that a lot, and and and yesterday I was on
Speaker 1: No Jumper and I was talking to them about it,
Speaker 1: and I was really trying to explain to them why
Speaker 1: it was so important to to identify rapping as his
Speaker 1: own you know, um, just vocal expression. Because you know,
Speaker 1: over the next thirty six months, we're going to get
Speaker 1: an on slot of people who are not culturally connected
Speaker 1: to any urban street appearance, but they've listened to certain
Speaker 1: hip hop artists and they decided to become a rapper.
Speaker 1: They may not be rapping the culture itself, but they
Speaker 1: decided to become a rapper. Mm hmm. Well you gotta
Speaker 1: go where the money is. I guess. Yeah, I'm real.
Speaker 1: Though you don't think that's crazy, It is crazy, for sure.
Speaker 1: On the one hand, from an integrity standpoint, it's absolutely crazy.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, it's a lot easier two make
Speaker 1: a fole X than it is to buy the company
Speaker 1: role X. You know, just kind of, It's a lot
Speaker 1: easier to like make a fake fole X and selling
Speaker 1: a street corner than to actually, what buy a role
Speaker 1: X factory or something like that, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: it's always easier to do it, to do a knockoff
Speaker 1: that doesn't have the real substance behind it. Just less work.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. But is it more work when they're trying
Speaker 1: to convince everybody that it is a Rolex. Isn't that
Speaker 1: where the work come in at? No, because Rollox already
Speaker 1: did the work for you. M hmm. That's why I like,
Speaker 1: like when I was saying earlier, if you look back
Speaker 1: at the landscape, you only see the successes as a
Speaker 1: regular person, right, So if you look around and go, okay, well,
Speaker 1: let's see guys who talk about they move a lot
Speaker 1: of drugs, move a lot of records, all I gotta
Speaker 1: do is say I do, and I'll move some records.
Speaker 1: Because all the other ship people talk about that, nobody
Speaker 1: cared to hear, nobody even heard, so you wouldn't even
Speaker 1: get the idea They've already done the market research for
Speaker 1: you by failing their way to success, so to speak.
Speaker 1: To borrow a Kiyasaki term, like they've already done all
Speaker 1: the trial and errors, and all the errors have already
Speaker 1: been paid for, so all you have to do is
Speaker 1: pretty much key in on exactly what's going on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's always easier to copy a good idea than to
Speaker 1: create one. Mm hmm. And I think that's kind of
Speaker 1: what we see happening. And I think also, you know,
Speaker 1: you you have a record label that's got the money.
Speaker 1: They go, Okay, well, this guy's got looks good enough
Speaker 1: or sounds decent enough for whatever the hell, will throw
Speaker 1: him on a mustard track and we'll have him sound
Speaker 1: sound like he's such and such or whatever the hell
Speaker 1: he does. And uh, he wants a career bad enough,
Speaker 1: so yeah, we'll go give him a couple hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollars to go do that, and we'll get whatever out
Speaker 1: of it. So they could pretty much create a successful rapper,
Speaker 1: just in market research, of course, and and the market
Speaker 1: does the research itself, because especially right now, and like,
Speaker 1: look at it this way. Say you have an artist
Speaker 1: who has a huge debut album whatever, and he was
Speaker 1: either independent or signed to some small deal and it's expired,
Speaker 1: Well you can sign him again and pay forty million
Speaker 1: dollars or whatever the hell would be for his deal
Speaker 1: as he's being a big deal, or you could sign
Speaker 1: another guy for one and just make him sound like
Speaker 1: that guy and look like that guy. What's crazy is
Speaker 1: there's a there was a white kid who sounded just
Speaker 1: like little Baby and he made uh I g post
Speaker 1: about it like it's easy to sound like a little Baby.
Speaker 1: He broke it down and start putting together the words
Speaker 1: in the rhymes and put out a song, and the
Speaker 1: fucking song ended up like you know, on Instagram. The
Speaker 1: video ended up streaming like a million, like time, like
Speaker 1: a million what news on Instagram? And I was like,
Speaker 1: this is crazy, it's crazy. And he sounded just like
Speaker 1: Little Baby, sounded just like him. That's funny. Well, case
Speaker 1: in point then I guess so, I mean, I think
Speaker 1: some of the question is also like there was kind
Speaker 1: of that period of time where like street kid cred
Speaker 1: really really mattered a lot in your marketability, and then
Speaker 1: I think hip hop that matters in hip hop because
Speaker 1: hip hop is rooted and like I tell you, street
Speaker 1: urban culture, hud I would say, like that's not like
Speaker 1: that with rap music, like nobody cares to know Jack
Speaker 1: Harlow's background. I mean, nobody cares to know Drake's background.
Speaker 1: It's not really important when it comes to them just rapping. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. I was. That was kind of like where
Speaker 1: I was gonna go was like Drake and like maybe
Speaker 1: Kanye and similar around the same time. A few years
Speaker 1: apart kind of broke that paradigm and it seems like
Speaker 1: changed a lot of stuff where it became like you
Speaker 1: could just kind of make some music again. And nobody's
Speaker 1: really asking question. Just asked him it sounds good or not?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah. Well, look, we we're gonna double back
Speaker 1: on this as a part two next week. I want
Speaker 1: to bring somebody on and they don't want me to
Speaker 1: keep going further without them, so we're gonna never do
Speaker 1: a part two for the following week, but we're gonna
Speaker 1: knock it awesome. Sounds good outside, Yes, I saw a
Speaker 1: messaging happens all. Something's going on down there, so they
Speaker 1: want to be a part of the conversation. So ar
Speaker 1: to it next week. Look forward to it, man, I'll
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