WEBVTT - Conversations About Rappers Part 1 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.360 Watch up and welcome back to another episode and No 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:07.480 Sillers podcast with your host. Now funk that with your 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:20.480 low glasses, Malone, pet dog. We're back, man, how are thanks? 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:24.480 How's how's the weather out in the desert? That's hot? 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:26.840 She saw good though, Man, I ain't wanted them one. 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:31.240 I spent too much time complaining about something that God 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:36.480 got control of. Calm. It seems like a waste of time, 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:40.880 I would agree. I would tend to agree. I'm still 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:43.440 getting used to looking outside here and I see that 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:45.680 it's gray and it's raining. I oh, it's gonna be cold, 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:50.000 and then walking outside and it's still hot. Yeah. Yeah, 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:54.200 that's a mental adjustment for me. That humidity out in 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:59.480 uh Florida is like crazy. But again, complaining about the 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:04.360 weather is a waste of time. Did you um, did 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:07.520 you see uh what happened with kid Cutty? Did you watch? 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:15.160 It was a short clip about like I watched like 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:17.800 Friday night or Saturday morning. It was like he was 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:20.640 saying something about, you guys, do any of this again. 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:24.280 I'm leaving it and they did it again and he left. Yeah. 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:27.080 I don't know what he was thinking. Um. And it's 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:30.240 funny because I was talking to somebody about it, and 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:33.920 they were telling me like, uh that him and Kanye 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:37.040 are ops, and I'm like, Kanye put Cutty on how 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:40.520 the fund would they be ops? And he felt like 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:43.560 that matter, Like Kanye went out ahead of time with 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:46.360 Dirk and it was like, oh, Kanye, you know, did 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:52.120 that on purpose? And I'm like, what's going on today 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:56.080 in society? There's a lot of people that are trying 0:01:56.120 --> 0:02:00.280 to have a mental ununderstanding of what other human beings 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:04.040 are going through without ever asking questions. Like I even 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:08.400 noticed that when we watch sports and people will tell you, oh, 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:10.519 this person is mentally weak, and I'm like, how would 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:13.520 you know if you never talked to that person. But 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:17.200 they were talking about Kanye's motive, about why he didn't 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:19.760 headline and why he came out on Dirk set, and 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:23.680 then we could talk about cutties mentality or his mental 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:26.920 you know, dealing with it and walking on stage. But 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:30.240 I'll tell you one thing, walking on stage is the 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:35.800 worst thing you could do. Um don't get me wrong. 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:38.520 I think we're at this really tender place in society 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:42.120 to where they make cater to your emotions. But for 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:45.119 the most part, humanity has shown to be pretty much 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:53.720 dicks all the time. Yeah. Yeah, I've been not pleased 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:58.440 with how well received a number of athletes over the 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:01.960 last couple of years. As who are you know, I'm 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:04.520 not gonna do this. I need to take a mental 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:09.160 health you know, vacation from whatever. Like what was her 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:14.240 name was? Osaka the tennis player? Like, I've been a 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:20.440 test fan for a lot of years. Um, I remember 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:26.079 Monica Celli is getting stabbed literally courtside, you know, and 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:29.000 coming back and playing, not with the stabbed shoulder, but 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:32.400 like once the wound healed, she was playing. She didn't 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:36.560 take at the time off from having to recover from 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:40.320 being stabbed in the middle of a match. You know. 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.680 Even Nancy Carrigan came back and got a silver medal 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:51.839 after they clipped her leg with the pipe. Yeah, I mean, well, 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:56.200 rap is in a weird place. Um, wrap is in 0:03:56.240 --> 0:04:00.680 a super weird place. Like hip hop and rap are different. 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:04.400 Hip hop is the culture. Rap is the language. M 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:07.920 you know what I mean, Like you could sing things 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:10.960 in hip hop. I mean you can sing about experiences, 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:13.720 you can sing hip hop experiences and it's still be 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:18.280 hip hop. But like Nick Dogg a hip hop artist, Yeah, 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:21.240 Nate is a hip hop artist and Future is a 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:25.400 hip hop artist. But it's it's weird trying to explain 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:29.479 that with every to everybody, right, because what you have 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:33.440 now is a generation of kids coming into this genre 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:35.080 that they call hip hop and be like, well, I 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:37.880 listen to hip hop music, so I'm hip hop and 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:40.839 I'm like, that's weird, and I respect it, like I 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:43.040 get what they're saying, but it's like, you don't have 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:45.840 to be hip hop too, Like I don't know if 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:48.240 Dicky Vitale would give a nigga fifty points in the 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:51.480 game or Skip Bayless would give somebody seventy points in 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:54.480 the game, Like, you don't have to be, you know, 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:58.960 actual player to know the game. But for some reason, 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:02.360 I listened to of people who cover hipop and they're like, 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:04.400 why cover it? I'm a part of it or I 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:07.440 am hip hop, and it's like, no, you cover the culture, right, 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:11.039 But I wanted to focus more on the language and 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:16.599 the actual people who focus on the language and what's 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:21.480 going on currently. Um, another kid got killed in Florida 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:26.960 and people so the way the media outlets reported it, 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:29.880 I forgot the kid's name. Um, let me don't be 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:32.599 rude first, and we find out because nine fob he 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:37.680 was a rapper, all right, Huh he was a rapper, Yeah, exactly, 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:41.480 And this is my point, right, Um, he's a rapper. 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:43.800 And I hate to do this because I don't like 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:50.000 calling people's name, but it's for a greater point. Uh 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:52.800 God damn. They got this whole article on him on 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:57.799 Fox News. His name is ROLLI Bands Okay out of Florida, 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:00.520 and he posted something on this social media to the 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:03.280 effect of, like, my enemies know where I'll be at 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:05.680 or where I'm sleeping at. Whenever they're ready, they could 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:08.800 come see me. And he died. You know, we got 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:11.640 killed within the within you know, a window of that time, 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:15.560 five to ten minutes. And everybody assumed that, like his 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:18.760 ops followed him on Instagram, as they say, the ops, 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:23.040 his opposition followed him on Instagram and decided like, okay, 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:27.200 he's putting that up, let me go kill it. And 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:33.040 that's pretty quick. Yeah. I'm like, as somebody who's been 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:35.599 a part of the criminal underworld for a lot of 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:38.520 years before I started making music, and even during that time, 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.600 most likely that's not how it goes, you know what 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:48.599 I'm saying. Um, and it forced another conversation. Somebody kept 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:52.599 asking me, was being a rapper the most dangerous job 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:58.640 in the world, And I'm like, like, ideally, it's the 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:01.480 easiest job in the world, right to be a rapper. 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:04.919 And I'm like, what you're rapping about is everything, like 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:09.000 nobody to come funk you up, watch what you say 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:14.440 about people. Did you ever have any of your find 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:19.480 yourself in the mix of any rap or hip hop music, 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:25.520 general music? Nine? You know basic regular one, seventeenth related ship. 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.760 You know that that occurred as a result of of 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:32.960 your artistic career solely that you were in the mix 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:37.440 of that didn't get out really um where you were 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:40.040 like this is getting a little temperature in the room, 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:43.240 a little warm. No, I never got that far. But 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:46.960 there were certain times, like my neighborhood and a neighborhood 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:49.760 that I grew up pretty much like looking up to 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:52.480 every g person there. I'm on a part right coolios 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:56.520 from onnaport a lot of a lot of niggas I 0:07:56.600 --> 0:07:58.679 looked up to my whole life, just like my older 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:08.040 homes from neighborhood for me, um, they were from monapart 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:12.480 compter crypt like it's a really close neighborhood to where 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:16.000 I'm from, and they started, you know, my generation or 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:21.240 younger um started. They started having issues over a dice 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:24.320 game and it went bad. And even though we pretty 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:26.720 much been thinking Steves as long as I could remember, 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:30.320 for that time being, it was like problems. I mean, 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:32.440 people was getting shot at, people was getting shot. They 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:35.600 got bad. The long story short, I had put out 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:39.080 that good, and that good became like my biggest party song. 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:42.480 And there's a line in the stone where I say, 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:47.800 um something about mashing like potatoes or mashing like tatoes. 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:51.520 And I was getting calls from people over there or 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:54.240 certain homies that was like, glasses, is this in the 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:58.600 hood and this new song? And I guess culturally that's 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.720 how you dissed the neighborhoo, which is weird because I've 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:03.720 never beef with them as long as I can remember, 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:05.959 like since a kid, So I never even knew how 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:09.680 to this mo on the park like again, firm, different people, 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:13.199 Big Mike, you know so many geez I look up 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:16.760 to from over there that I never really realized that's 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:24.040 how you dissed them, And uh, it was just weird, 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:25.880 And I was like, bro, why would y'all be thinking, 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:29.120 why would y'all be thinking I would be this in 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:32.800 y'all community, like in a song about sleeping with girls 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:36.559 or a period like like y'all know we know each 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:39.920 other our whole life. Why would I Why would I 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:43.240 be dissing y'all in a song like I don't care 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:45.640 what's going on? Like if that was a real issue, 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:48.600 I would see somebody in person and have my issue. 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:51.320 I wouldn't make a rap record in like, you know, 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:54.199 performing like I don't think that's really the thing for me. 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:57.880 Long story short, it got resolved real fast, But it 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:01.679 was just weird to me, um to think that somebody 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:03.760 would be thinking I would be thinking about them in 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:06.400 a rap record when I'm talking about sleep over women. 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:12.360 That it was really strange, was there? Like does your 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:15.000 neighborhood really or is it a little too far down 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:19.079 the street to have any type of relationship or interaction 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:21.920 with Bounty Hunters because like Jay rocks from there and 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:25.680 you you have a professional relationship with him, right, Yeah, 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:27.840 I mean we're close enough to have problems. I mean 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:31.840 we had social issues before, something with chocolate, something with 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:36.680 a couple of homies, but it's always been amicably resolved. 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:40.320 I mean it was always resolved in a really you know, 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:50.839 excellent manner. You know, Um, really it's some my younger 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:53.199 homies got some crazy ship going on, but I'm not 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:55.080 tapped into it, you know. I mean, I wouldn't know 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:57.800 what the fund is going on, but it wouldn't be 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:00.000 with the Bonny. And it's just always been pretty much 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:04.079 fruitful relationship with the Tommies from the pretty much from 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:11.120 the Jordan's Downs, Imperial Courts, Nikolason Guards has always been cool. Um, 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:13.640 no sense you had to have had a thing was 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:17.800 for the pj's. I mean my older homies did, but 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:21.719 not my interation like that was like a perpetual thing. 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:28.040 Yeah no, no, um, really, most very few gang wars 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:31.559 are perpetual like that, Like the sixties and the Eight 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:34.280 Trades are like that kind of situation. But then they'll 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:37.160 go it'll it'll be months and close to a year, 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:41.080 and nobody may get shot in that incident. What I'm saying, 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:43.439 they're not going at it. But then sometimes it heats 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:47.120 up and something bad happened and they go at it. 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:50.960 But no Sillers gl Peter Bias for me in the 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:56.040 spot and we're doing what we do. Um, but I 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:59.160 wanted to talk to you about rapping, and I feel 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:06.720 like it's a conversation that needs to be had. Um 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:11.080 wrapping is is a particular language that almost anybody could speak. 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:15.959 It's not like like hip hop is street urban, right, 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:20.120 So that's it's the culture of street urban people, right. 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:23.480 And whether you're criminal or not, you know that that 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:26.200 lifestyle shaped your life. Like if you listen to Good 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:28.960 Kid Man City, it's the exact opposite of maybe my 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:33.760 experiences as a participant, but it pretty much shaped his life, 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:37.280 you know, Kendrick's life as an observer. But then there's 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:40.320 other genres like what Jack Harlowe is doing, right, which 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:44.080 is a level of mainstream rap. And rap is a 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:47.000 wide open thing because it's it's as simple as words, 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:52.400 being witty with words, but the times when being witty 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:55.960 with words can be dangerous. That's what I want to 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:57.800 talk to you about. I felt like that was a 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:06.360 conversation that we don't have um right now. Thug is 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:09.920 Thug and Gunna and their team is fighting uh a 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:13.920 Rico charge right down in Georgia, and people are talking 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:17.920 about them using their rap lyrics as evidence in the case. 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:21.520 And it's a bit misleading because they have real evidence 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:24.200 and real snitches in that case, you know, but they 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:29.400 know it's sensationalized to say we're using rap lyrics. Mm hmm, 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:33.280 you know what I'm saying. So wrapping is a language 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:38.400 that anybody can speak. And you know, especially in today's 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:41.360 time where all the equipment is cheat you can get 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:46.120 free beats off YouTube. Anybody can rap. But I'm not 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:49.720 sure I like the concept of calling everybody a rapper, 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:53.560 like particularly this kid rolling bands, rest his soul, shout 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:55.199 out to his family. I pray for them, you know 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:57.839 what I mean, to find piece with what's going on, 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:02.480 you know what I'm saying. But somebody could work at 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:06.200 In and Out you I mean Burger or they could 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:09.640 work at Guineas for ten years and if they make 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:14.120 ten songs, right, somebody would consider them a rapper once 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:18.840 they die. Like I've never heard I've never heard the 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:21.280 name Roaldi bands. I don't know too many people that 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:25.880 posted this music before. I'm pretty avid on new stuff 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:30.480 coming out, like I always hear names, but I think 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:34.800 they use the term rapper because it's sensationalizes the genre itself. 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:38.760 It's like, oh, up and coming or a rapper another 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:42.560 rapper gets killed, and it's like then I heard Charleston 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:45.760 White saying that, you know all the rappers, and it's like, bro, 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:48.840 this ship is just a job. It's just a job, 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:52.040 like being a postman, you know what I mean. Does 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:56.720 the postman have influence on the community? Fuck? Yeah, you know. 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.560 Does the president have influence on the community. Yes, that's 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:02.840 doctor just have influences on the community. Yet but for 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:07.640 some reason, rap is singled out consistently, you know, amongst 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:11.720 the financially valuable or elite, like it's some kind of 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:16.800 extra influential thing versus a movie star. And I just 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:18.720 wanted to see where you really set with that. How 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:22.080 did you feel about that? Well, I think I've said 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:27.760 before that I find it odd the way music has 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:34.400 always been seen differently as an art form by critical 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:38.760 media in regards to what happens outside the confine of 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:42.400 the piece of art than movies have. You know, like 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:48.200 you could be like Miami rip Ross not l Across, 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:53.200 to the best of mine understanding, is not a large 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:58.960 scale drug trafficker. He's making content about that in the 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:03.520 same way that Mario Puzzo was never a godfather, don 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:08.080 you know? So, so you look at the way certain artists, 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:12.200 even like Ozzy Osborne getting blamed for like kids committing 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:14.200 suicide or something like that, you know in the eighties, 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:16.880 like having to go to court over it. There's a 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:25.320 different perceived responsibility or perceived parallel between music and between 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:30.160 movies and television. You make like Sevestal Slone all his 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:33.760 movies incredibly violence. Somebody's a big Rambo fan and goes crazy, 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:42.680 I was going after Sylvester, you know, I really don't know. 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.400 I mean, I think maybe because of the target audience 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:51.160 and because people kind of go like a lot of 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:56.000 stuff happens statistically between like say those ages of like 0:16:56.960 --> 0:17:00.960 fourteen fifteen and like early twenties, right, and there's a 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:04.480 lot of people who historically or once certainly once the 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:08.399 invention of the headphone or the portable music device came around, 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:12.240 that would go to their room and listen to music. 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:14.720 And people would think, oh, they're going to listen to 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:18.680 music and becoming weird. It's like, no, they were, they 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:20.600 were weird. They were going to listen to music to 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:25.399 deal with it, you know what. Whatever, Yeah, I agree, 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:28.480 music is not the inspiration. Music is the soundtrack of 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:34.240 life for some somehow rappers are being blamed like they're 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:39.639 the inspiration versus the soundtrack for existing things happening. Like 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:45.199 rappers don't really create as much lingo, Like usually the 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:48.439 streets are talking a certain way, or humanity is talking 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:51.560 a certain way, and rappers pick up the lingo and 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:54.159 it could get popular because of them, but rest as 0:17:54.240 --> 0:18:01.359 sure somebody's talking that way. Yeah, totally. I think Also, 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:06.560 like because of the nature of the way music is 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:09.120 always coming out all the time, so like rap music 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:12.600 tends to come out in a pretty steady stream, and 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:16.680 it's to a degree largely like if if we're bringing 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:20.840 it up into movies, it's always like say an action movie. 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:24.320 You know, It's not like one albums in action movie 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:28.320 and the next one's like some Aliens movie, you know 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:32.720 what I mean. So if if you're Sony or if 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:35.560 you're Paramount and you own a record company and you 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:39.640 own the news channel and the cable company, it would 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:46.359 behoo view two market something that might create more parallel 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:51.400 interest in other spaces that you also own. Mm hmm. 0:18:56.359 --> 0:19:01.399 Do you feel rappers have that type of responsibility now, 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:05.879 all the rappers, but it's not on the rappers. I 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:14.919 mean the lag time between content creation and the point 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:18.199 where the content has been released and listened to and 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:21.840 something could be possibly derived from that content. It's pretty significant. 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:25.199 It might be six months to a year. You know, 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:33.760 that's a lot of foresight. Mm hmmm. I don't know. 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:37.840 It just gets weirder and weirder to to listen to people. Yesterday, 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:42.480 I was talking about so it's one thing, right. I 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:44.960 was telling nucle trash like right, and were talking about 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:47.920 rap music and hip hop in the mix of everything, 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:53.840 and I was trying to express to him how like 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:57.440 it's one thing to rap, like somebody right, it's a 0:19:57.560 --> 0:20:00.600 it's a kid named Slim Jesus that like came out 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:04.040 and admitted like, yo, you know, I'm not a part 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:06.240 of drill culture. Like I didn't grow up like that. 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:08.800 I just like the music, so I wrapped like it. 0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:11.200 But it would be different if he's like, yeah, I'm 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:13.800 a I'm a drill artist, like I'm I'm I'm really 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:16.480 a part of a culture. So I think rap is dope, 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:18.600 you know what I mean? Um, when it's like that, 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:23.800 But the problem is when you have people rapping about 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:28.240 lifestyles that they actually are not familiar with, and no 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:31.480 matter how many times they do it or how convincingly 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:35.160 they believe they are, it always comes across a bit 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:38.600 parody is if you didn't grow up next to it 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:42.200 with like like like like you could wrap about being 0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:45.159 a drug dealer if you live next to a drug dealer, 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:47.840 like if you knew him and experienced it, and you 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:50.320 would represent him and wrap even if people mistake it 0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:53.240 to be for you. You can get it off culturally. 0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:56.439 But the problem is when everything you're rapping about is 0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:59.639 something you see through a screen. You know, maybe you 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:02.240 see it through a phone screen, maybe you see it 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:04.240 through a TV screen, and then you're like, Okay, I 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:06.840 see that. I'm going to wrap about it, you know 0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:09.199 what I'm saying. And that's where it comes across a 0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:11.919 bit parody is and you could tell like it won't 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:15.399 fit on no level. And I was expressing to the 0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:20.119 to him about this about up and coming Latino artists, 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:22.919 and he he asked me, he was like, well, do 0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:25.760 you think like black people can notice it in black artists? 0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:29.040 I'm like, hell, yeah, we always know when somebody is 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:31.480 not you know, when they're just rapping and they're truly 0:21:31.520 --> 0:21:34.520 a part of that culture. I used the line I 0:21:34.560 --> 0:21:36.880 was talking. I had the same conversation like five days ago, 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:39.480 and I said, yeah, there's there's a lot of artists 0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:42.640 right now that are really popular, and you can if 0:21:42.640 --> 0:21:44.880 you listen to hard enough, you can hear the quarterly 0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:50.840 reports and the records. How hard is it for you 0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:53.000 to tell when you're listening to rap was legiti and 0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:55.479 what was not legit? I mean to me, it's not 0:21:55.640 --> 0:21:59.760 It's not hard. Um, I don't. I don't. I haven't 0:21:59.800 --> 0:22:02.760 listen to a lot of newer stuff closely enough to 0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:04.760 pay attention. I'm just kind of listening to drum beats 0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:06.560 at this point in time. You know, it's background noise. 0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:11.760 But like when I was younger, yeah, it's it wasn't 0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:16.360 challenging that, you know, tell a lot of a lot 0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:20.880 of the stuff that like like PMC talking about guys 0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:24.320 spitting fake dope prices on the ozone, you know interview 0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:29.080 back way back in the day, that wasn't new necessarily 0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:32.840 news to me. You know, I'm just like these you know, 0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:36.800 some guy says I I some guy originally got very 0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:39.560 popular because he came out and said I made a 0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:42.720 hundred thousand dollars I bought five of these at this 0:22:42.840 --> 0:22:45.080 and I moved him for that, And then another guy 0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:47.760 came out and said, well, that made have a lot 0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:51.800 of money. I sold twenty and bought a million dollar 0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:55.280 house and a chain, and I sold mine for blank 0:22:55.400 --> 0:23:11.440 It's like you only said that because he said that. Wow. Um, 0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:14.560 it's not as easy for the general public to be 0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:18.399 able to tell though. Yeah, that's that's yeah, that's true. 0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:21.919 That's true. And I noticed early in my career I 0:23:22.000 --> 0:23:27.000 never felt the pressure to to be over expressive about 0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:31.200 who I was because you know where I come from. 0:23:31.240 --> 0:23:33.800 If somebody says something, it's easy to check up on 0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:37.400 who that person is, Like any rapper in California, not 0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:40.920 just at l A, any rapper in California. Hell, honestly, 0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:44.320 for me, any rapper across the country. Fear me. I 0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:48.000 could tell. I could find out it's one degree of 0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:52.280 separation if at best two or three, and I can 0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:56.240 tell you how legit that person street activity is. Yeah. 0:23:56.440 --> 0:24:01.840 I don't think I've ever cared about it, you know, Um, 0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:04.639 long as they're not trying to overpass it off like 0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:08.440 it's legit, Like if they're just rapping about it, I'm 0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:11.200 not super vesting in it. Like if your music is good. 0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:14.600 I'm cool with it. But it really became important to 0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:17.160 me over the last three years to separate hip hop 0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:23.199 from rapping. Like Debbie Harry from Blondie was rapping. I 0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:28.359 mean it, rap is different. So I just think about 0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:31.280 that a lot, and and and yesterday I was on 0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:33.320 No Jumper and I was talking to them about it, 0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:36.120 and I was really trying to explain to them why 0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:40.119 it was so important to to identify rapping as his 0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:45.119 own you know, um, just vocal expression. Because you know, 0:24:45.200 --> 0:24:48.320 over the next thirty six months, we're going to get 0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:51.640 an on slot of people who are not culturally connected 0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:56.960 to any urban street appearance, but they've listened to certain 0:24:57.040 --> 0:24:59.280 hip hop artists and they decided to become a rapper. 0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:04.880 They may not be rapping the culture itself, but they 0:25:05.320 --> 0:25:10.520 decided to become a rapper. Mm hmm. Well you gotta 0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:17.120 go where the money is. I guess. Yeah, I'm real. 0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:23.280 Though you don't think that's crazy, It is crazy, for sure. 0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:28.159 On the one hand, from an integrity standpoint, it's absolutely crazy. 0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:34.160 On the other hand, it's a lot easier two make 0:25:34.200 --> 0:25:37.880 a fole X than it is to buy the company 0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:43.480 role X. You know, just kind of, It's a lot 0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:47.639 easier to like make a fake fole X and selling 0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:50.720 a street corner than to actually, what buy a role 0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:52.679 X factory or something like that, you know what I mean, Like, 0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:55.600 it's always easier to do it, to do a knockoff 0:25:55.640 --> 0:26:01.879 that doesn't have the real substance behind it. Just less work. 0:26:02.920 --> 0:26:07.000 Mm hmm. But is it more work when they're trying 0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:09.399